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Hey, folks, it is Tuesday, June 17th. Testimony is underway as we speak. And the judge is pissed on what is now officially the sixth week, day 25 of testimony in the Diddy trial. Welcome to this episode of Amy and tj. We continue to be your one stop every day to get you all caught up in what's happening in the Diddy trial. And rogues once again, before testimony even starts, fireworks are popping off. And it seems like the judge now this is some of the strong. He's some folks for behavior in the court. This is as strong a language as I've seen come out of the courtroom.
Host 1
That's right. He. He didn't even mince words. He addressed the defense and the prosecution and said someone is lying because he says there was a leak. There was information in an article. We don't know what the news article is specifically and what the information he was upset about is, but he said this transcript was sealed and there was information that came out in a news report that no one else could have known except for the people who he was looking at. And both the defense and the prosecution denied leaking any information. And so children. Well, you know, and I feel like this happens a lot even in newsrooms or you start to say who is the leak? Who is going behind closed doors calling in a tip, whether it's true or not to skew public opinion or to have an impact on public relations for whatever your motivation is, we see this all the time.
Host 4
Somebody did it.
Host 1
He knows somebody 100% did it. And they all denied it.
Host 4
They all looked in the judge's face.
Host 1
And said denied it.
Host 4
It wasn't us.
Host 1
So he said one or more people who were here Friday in this courtroom, and I'm quoting, the judge here, flagrantly violated this court's orders, a violation of the court's sealing order. But it wasn't just that. The court imposed a gag order on the government, the defendant, all attorneys for the defense and anyone involved was made accountable.
Host 4
That is like when they say seal, that's what they actually literally mean. There's information that this group knows.
Host 1
The.
Host 4
That information is what we know. But then we're putting it in this document. It's going to be closed. Nobody else can know it outside of us unless they open that document. So what happened, Robes? What happened?
Host 1
Someone was trying to sue public opinion.
Host 4
He is pissed.
Host 1
But I don't know what the information is. I'm so curious as to what the information is. But he wasn't just angry. He said that he is going to investigate and Hit him with it. Whatever happens, he said he will find out. And it could result in civil or criminal contempt charges for all involved.
Host 4
That's serious. That is really serious. They're not playing when they say a gag order, when a judge tells you not to open your mouth. They are putting very. This is a federal court. They sure don't play with this stuff.
Host 1
No, no. Because this is. This is. Someone's life is on the line for. First of all, Diddy's life is on the line. His freedom is on the line. And the integrity of the court is also hanging in the balance. Because if you can't operate, and that's the judge's responsibility, if you can't operate a courtroom that proceeds the way it's supposed to, that's fair, and protects certain information, then you don't have. You know, that's the cornerstone, the foundation in part of our democracy and justice. So, yeah, it is a big deal.
Host 4
And it can be the foundation of an appeal.
Ryan Seacrest
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Host 4
It doesn't work. This is serious. So now you've. Who knows how much money the federal government. I say federal government, taxpayers have spent on this trial and something like this trips it up. There has to be a mistrial. We have to do all this over. You understand? Why the judge is that piss. He is looking at people. One of y' all lied to me. He doesn't know which one it is. And then you lied to me again. When I asked which one of you is lying?
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 4
Oh, this is.
Host 1
It's like a parent to his children. He said there is no passing the buck anymore. He said this to the. The prosecution and the defense. The buck stops with you. If anything happens, lead counsel is responsible. So if your client did something or someone on your team did something. Don't care. It's the lead counsel's responsibility, man.
Host 4
So, yeah. That he was heated in the. In the court this morning. We did get. And this is significant, you and I were looking at the calendar. You're like, wait a minute. This could be. This is gonna be overwin.
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Host 4
We are talking about this case possibly being in the hands of the jury as early as this time next week. The prosecution had been telling us for a little while they thought they were gonna be done by Wednesday of this week with their case, Friday at the latest. But they're holding to right now Wednesday. So as we sit here on Tuesday. Yes. As of this recording court is going on the robes is weird to think the prosecution could wrap its case tomorrow.
Host 1
Tomorrow. Correct. And then Thursday is a federal holiday. It's Juneteenth. And so if State say the prosecution does wrap up on Wednesday, the defense would begin on Friday. And they said they needed anywhere from two to five days to present their defense.
Host 4
Yeah, so they said they're still laying things out and adjusting some things. But to think that maybe we could see a Friday and a Monday or maybe into Tuesday, the defense putting on its case and then jury instructions and they could be deliberating in a week. In a week. After all this, to think it's coming to the end like that feels odd.
Host 1
For whatever reason, it's been with us. They've been with us, the stories, the jaw dropping testimony has been with us now for several weeks. So it just feels like it's a part of daily life now. So what's gonna happen next? No, but you know, this has been basically a made for TV movie, a Netflix series, so to speak, because you can't believe what you're hearing. And it's been that shocking to find out what was happening behind the scenes for decades. Even in this world that most of us couldn't even possibly imagine participating in.
Host 4
You say, a Netflix series. It's weird to be watching a story that none of us can actually see. We can't be in the courtroom. There is not a camera in a federal courthouse. So we're. The way the story is being told leaves a lot to the imagination about gestures and facial expressions and energy and all that in the courtroom. This has been to have such a watched case that we can't watch.
Ryan Seacrest
It's fascinating.
Host 1
It's almost like reading a book or listening to an audiobook if you're listening to podcast or reporters who are covering it. But that's kind of the best way to describe it. So I feel like I have a movie in my mind and perhaps that's best because I don't know that I actually want to see the accompanying videos that the jurors have been forced to watch. We'll get into that in just a bit because that's something that will never leave you. So at least it's just my own imagination. Perhaps that's a softer, kinder place. Now, we mentioned the jurors. Juror number six was removed. And the defense wanted to know what the judge told the other jurors that was important to them, how he explained to the other jurors why juror number six was removed because there's of course a concern that that could prejudice or taint the jury hearing that someone got removed for what reason and the judge told them don't worry about it.
Host 4
Yeah, don't worry about it. He's gone. Don't worry about it. Don't talk about it. Let's move on. He said he didn't give him anything. He just said somebody that was removed did not give any reasons for it and told them do not discuss it amongst yourselves. And that's the end of story. So we got 41 year old black male out.
Host 1
Was it 56, 7 year old white male architect from Westchester in on the jury.
Host 4
So Today is day 25 of the of the case, but it's day one of being without that juror. So he is out of there. So the thing is now Rove. So we got one new juror. We could get another new juror. I don't. This is. Where does it sound like it's leaning with this other guy?
Host 1
I'm not sure. So the issue with this juror number seven is apparently that this juror, and I believe they've used the pronoun he. So it's a male is accused of or it's reported that he may have discussed the case with a co worker and somehow that got back to the judge. And so now the judge told the defense and the prosecution that he was going to handle this other issue with juror number seven at the end of the day today. I still think it's interesting though because the jurors were told by the judge that they can't discuss the circumstances around juror number six. They aren't allowed to discuss it even amongst themselves. But you know, that's got to be eating at them. This is someone who's been sitting with them for weeks and weeks and weeks and all of a sudden, poof, you, he's gone. You know, there are these conspiracy theories. What did he do?
Host 4
They're discussing.
Host 1
What did he say? How could they not discuss it? That seems really difficult. And now if a second juror goes, it's just, it does. It has to create a different atmosphere and a different tone within the jurors. I wonder how that affects their just ab. Like overall thoughts about the case and how it's going.
Host 4
How can it affect their energy? What flow? Maybe they were all kind of in the same mindset before. Now you got two, excuse me, just one right now. But potentially two new people coming into the fray, coming into the room, meeting people, starting to have lunch with them and interact with them. Maybe it throws the whole dynamic off in some way. Who the hell knows? But man, I can't. All of a sudden there seems like chaos in the jury room, all of a sudden, there's another one that's being brought in. And when this one gets replaced, now, this is now going to have an impact on the diversity of the jury. There were four white jurors to begin with. Now there's a fifth with the guy from Westchester.
Host 1
Right.
Host 4
You take out one more juror, you might end up, who knows? But now you're looking, you go from having a majority, minority jury to possibly a 50, 50 split in a matter of a couple of days.
Host 1
And that could make a big difference in a case like this.
Host 4
Oh, my goodness. And what are they going to say? I mean, is, I believe we cannot expect a motion for mistrial. The, of course, attorneys were saying, of course, that if jury number six got dismissed, they were going to move for a mistrial. If another one goes out, my goodness.
Host 1
Every day there's something new and something that could potentially make a huge difference in the outcome of this trial. But we did have today, Brendan Paul, who is the assistant to Diddy, he took the fifth, he got immunity. So he is able to testify because he was the one who was originally arrested on drug charges around the same time that Diddy was as well. So those charges have all been dropped. And now that he is actually cooperating with the prosecution in this testimony, it.
Host 4
Is now that y' all not going to charge me for all this stuff I'm about to tell you all about in open court. So. Yeah, and I forgot the process. Yeah, he has to go up on the stand and have to go through a whole process. He has to be sworn in, say I plead the Fifth, then granted immunity. So he's been up on the stand already this morning, but he's coming back down and the testimony continues. Now, Delisa Penland is a special agent with the U.S. attorney's office. She was testifying yesterday, continues her testimony today. And what the Washington Post, how they describe dry testimony? Because they're having to go through all the charts and text messages and hotel receipts. They're just piecing this whole thing together, trying to show everybody that, yes, Diddy was the one in control and funding this whole operation. So that's how they're making the case. So she's connecting the dots with ropes, as always. Some of the details start coming out about some of these hotel nights and some of the hotel receipt charges, and a few kind of jumped out at people already that it's talking about.
Host 1
Yes, there were some. There was some. We've heard these types of charges where there was $500 damage to drapes and carpets at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Most likely I'm going to go with baby oil. That's what we've heard at from other hotel room problems. $950 for deep cleaning at the Hermitage Hotel. Hermitage Armitage Hotel. I know how to say that. And then okay, so those are okay. Not what any one of us would typically want to see on our hotel bill. But there was a big one from the Intern InterContinental Hotel from October 5, 2012. There was some penthouse damage to the tune of $46,786. What the actual f. How could you do that much damage with a sex party? I'm trying to imagine what could cost that much and what penthouse in a nice hotel.
Host 4
Maybe there's a particular item that was damaged.
Host 1
A rug maybe a really expensive rug.
Host 4
Maybe that maybe was a piano in there. Maybe there was. Maybe it was actually something broken because it's hard to imagine. Just damage to drapes or stains, chandelier.
Host 1
Or someone could have been swinging off of it. I mean, who knows? I'm just. But I'm really trying to imagine how you could do almost $50,000 worth of damage in one night or in a couple of nights to a penthouse. I've never heard anything like that in my life.
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Host 4
The details again, we've been listening to this stuff literally now for six weeks. You think you have heard everything about these parties and some new witness gives you some new detail and you go what the actual hell all over again. Now robes. The prosecution really is wrapping up now. They have, I think three witnesses left after the one that's currently on the stand. Again, as of this recording, that person is still on the stand. But they have three, three to go. Brendan, call Paul. We mentioned his assistant, another summary witness and then another law enforcement agent. And that's going to be it. To think that after all this and all the investigation and all the raids and all the arrests and all the videos we saw of him being taken away in September that we get to this moment that the prosecution says, yep, that's our case, we rest.
Host 1
Yeah, and I mean they have gone through, they have been a very, very thorough in terms of presenting evidence to the jury. Yesterday this was a big deal. For the first time the jury was shown actual video of some of those freak offs, those sex parties, those hotel parties. Previously they'd only seen still images and they heard audio of the encounters. But on Monday they were shown three videos and a couple of them were just like two minutes long but there was one that was 40 minutes long long. And some of the courtroom reporters were describing the jurors facial expressions. It was uncomfortable was what I heard or at least read that some reporters said that they could see discomfort and the point was the prosecution was trying to show coercion that these were videos of Cassie Ventura. Fine. In some of these sex videos. In the sex video. And they you know obviously we don't know what the videos where I don't want to imagine but apparently it was they thought it was obvious that she was not enjoying herself so there was discomfort. And then the jurors had to see that and take that in. And again that's just something you can't unsee. I can't imagine what that was like. And everyone was wearing headphones so the audio was not being played out in the courtroom for everyone to hear.
Host 4
And after that we don't have a good handle on how many folks the defense is planning to call. I think I only saw one place they wanted to call the the like the Bad Boys Enterprises human resources person to the stand in defense of Diddy. So it is all going to continue to be fascinating. We'll go ahead though.
Host 1
I was just saying there are also reports that possibly the defense may call Dawn Richard back up to the stand. But that seems so interesting because they already cross examined her. But that is out there too that that may be someone who they are looking to call to the stand. Another bit of information I read was several high profile celebrities who believe that they could possibly be called by the defense are lawyering up to make sure they're prepared just in case their names are called to the stand in defense of Diddy. So we shall see if there are any big name celebrities who end up taking the stand. But I guess at this point anything's possible.
Host 4
But again they said you know what this is why they they that's a big gap. We're going to be done in two days or we're going to be done in five. That's a big difference. I think they maybe they are leaving some room for filling in some gaps and still are filling in their witness list. But this thing is wrapping up folks and as crazy it sounds but the prosecution could rest as early as tomorrow. But we will be here and we will continue to be bringing you the latest one stop shopping as you say robes and collecting. All this we thanks to the Washington Post, the CNN reporter in the room. Who else is in the room. USA Today.
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We've been using NBC News. We've seen all the main outlets have a reporter in there. And so we've been checking all of the websites because each reporter has a very different vantage point, takes in different details. So we've been absorbing it all and then giving you, hopefully, the best of the best. So we appreciate you checking in with us and listening to us. And please stay tuned because we will continue to keep you updated on, on everything on the Diddy trial. In the meantime, though, hope you all have a wonderful day today.
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Podcast Title: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
Hosts: Amy Robach, T.J. Holmes
Release Date: June 17, 2025
Episode: The Diddy Trial: “Someone Is Lying”
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In this episode, hosts Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes delve into the ongoing trial of renowned music mogul Sean "Diddy" Combs. Joined by guest Aubrey O’Day, a former protege of Diddy and a well-known television personality, the trio offers an in-depth analysis of the proceedings that have captivated the nation.
The episode opens with a tense atmosphere in the courtroom. The presiding judge expressed significant frustration over alleged breaches of the court's sealing orders, stating, “Someone is lying” ([04:10] Host 1). The judge emphasized that confidential information was leaked to a news outlet, disrupting the integrity of the trial. Both the prosecution and defense have categorically denied any involvement in the leak.
Host Robach comments on the commonality of such breaches in high-stakes environments, noting, “I feel like this happens a lot even in newsrooms...” ([04:06] Host 1). The judge's stern demeanor underscores the seriousness of the situation, highlighting potential civil or criminal contempt charges awaiting those responsible for the leak ([05:00] Host 1).
The hosts discuss the potential fallout from the judge's outburst. The seriousness of the gag order is emphasized, with Host Holmes stating, “They are putting very... this is a federal court. They sure don't play with this stuff” ([05:32] Host 4). The integrity of the trial hangs in the balance, as any disruption could jeopardize Diddy's freedom and the foundational principles of the justice system ([06:05] Host 1).
As the trial approaches a critical juncture, the prosecution appears poised to wrap up their case by the following week. Host Robach muses, “For whatever reason, it's been with us. They've been with us, the stories, the jaw-dropping testimony has been with us now for several weeks” ([08:03] Host 1). The anticipation builds as the prosecution prepares to present their final witnesses, signaling a possible swift move towards jury deliberations.
The episode highlights complications within the jury, including the removal of Juror #6. Host Holmes explains, “They don't know which one it is. He doesn't know which one it is” ([05:18] Host 4), emphasizing the judge's frustration with the lack of accountability. The potential addition of Juror #7 raises concerns about jury diversity and dynamics, with Host Robach noting, “You take out one more juror, you might end up... a 50-50 split in a matter of a couple of days” ([12:23] Host 4). The uncertainty surrounding juror conduct poses significant implications for the trial's outcome.
The prosecution's case gains momentum with testimonies from key witnesses such as Brendan Paul, Diddy's assistant, who has taken the Fifth but was granted immunity to testify. Host Robach discusses how Special Agent Delisa Penland is meticulously connecting various pieces of evidence, including hotel receipts and text messages, to demonstrate Diddy's control and funding of the alleged operations.
A particularly striking revelation involves extensive property damage from events held at luxury hotels. Host Holmes highlights a shocking $46,786 damage bill from the InterContinental Hotel, questioning, “How could you do that much damage with a sex party?” ([15:22] Host 1). This evidence paints a vivid picture of the extravagant and potentially illicit activities central to the prosecution's narrative.
In a groundbreaking move, the prosecution introduced actual videos of the events in question, moving beyond still images and audio recordings. Host Robach describes the jurors' reactions as “uncomfortable” and notes that one video extended a grueling 40 minutes, likely depicting coercion and distress ([19:35] Host 1). These visual elements aim to solidify the jury's perception of the events, presenting an undeniable narrative of misconduct.
The defense faces challenges as the prosecution nears closure. Discussions indicate that the defense might call fewer witnesses, potentially including high-profile celebrities or Dawn Richard, despite prior cross-examinations. Host Holmes speculates, “Another bit of information I read was several high-profile celebrities who believe that they could possibly be called by the defense...” ([21:21] Host 1). The uncertainty surrounding the defense's final moves adds another layer of complexity to the trial's conclusion.
As the trial progresses towards its climax, Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes reaffirm their commitment to providing comprehensive coverage. They acknowledge the unprecedented nature of the case, comparing it to a "made-for-TV movie" due to its dramatic and high-profile elements. The hosts promise to continue delivering timely updates, ensuring listeners remain informed as the trial edges closer to a verdict.
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This episode offers a detailed exploration of the multifaceted Diddy trial, highlighting courtroom tensions, strategic legal maneuvers, and pivotal evidence shaping the case's trajectory. Through expert analysis and real-time updates, listeners gain a comprehensive understanding of the complexities and high stakes involved in this landmark trial.