The Diddy Trial: Third Week of Testimony Resumes

Summary

Podcast Summary: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial

Introduction

In the episode titled "The Diddy Trial: Third Week of Testimony Resumes" released on May 28, 2025, hosted by Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes from iHeartPodcasts, listeners receive an in-depth analysis of the ongoing trial against Sean "Diddy" Combs. This episode marks the beginning of the third full week of testimony, featuring compelling witness accounts and expert insights aimed at unraveling the complexities of the case that has captivated national attention.

Overview of the Third Week of Testimony

As the trial enters its third week, the prosecution intensifies its efforts to build a robust case against Diddy. The focal point of this week's proceedings is the testimony of Capricorn Clark, a former assistant and long-time associate of Diddy. Her account is pivotal in establishing a narrative of a criminal enterprise centered around Combs, aiming to substantiate the racketeering (RICO) charges brought against him.

Key Testimony: Capricorn Clark

Capricorn Clark emerges as a central figure in the prosecution's case. With a longstanding relationship spanning from 2004 to 2012, and briefly in 2018 and 2024, Clark's testimony provides a firsthand look into the inner workings of Diddy's operations. She describes herself as Diddy's "protector" and conveys a sense of loyalty juxtaposed with fear and coercion.

One of the most harrowing accounts comes from Clark regarding an incident involving rapper Kid Cudi. She states:

"Diddy threatened, 'We're going to kill Cudi.'" ([03:53])

Clark recounts being forced at gunpoint to detain herself alongside Diddy outside Kid Cudi's residence, leading to a high-stakes chase. Her emotional distress is palpable as she testifies:

"She, the witness, was sobbing uncontrollably at times on the stand." ([05:22])

Further, Clark details instances of intimidation and violence, including threats to her life and those around her:

"Diddy said he'll 'kill them all' if Kid Cudi went to the police." ([09:49])

These powerful testimonies serve to illustrate the alleged abusive dynamics within Diddy's circle, aiming to paint a picture of a coercive and violent environment.

Analysis and Discussion

Robach and Holmes delve into the implications of Clark's testimony, highlighting its significance in establishing a pattern of behavior that the prosecution argues is indicative of a criminal enterprise. The hosts emphasize the strategic importance of incorporating kidnapping charges to bolster the RICO case, drawing parallels to historical cases against organized crime figures.

Robach remarks on the complexity of Clark's emotions and motivations:

"She wanted Diddy's approval, which speaks to the power dynamics at play." ([05:50])

Holmes adds depth to the discussion by questioning the voluntary nature of Clark's involvement:

"Did she go willingly to protect him, to do her job, or was she taken against her will?" ([16:13])

The emotional toll on Clark is evident, as her testimony not only provides factual accounts but also conveys the psychological impact of her experiences:

"She's probably so conflicted and so torn about what to do, what to say and what not to do." ([22:43])

Introduction of Guest: Aubrey O’Day

Adding a unique perspective to the discussion, Aubrey O’Day joins the hosts, leveraging her own experiences as Diddy's former protégé and a prominent figure in the entertainment industry. O’Day offers insights into the often-glamorous facade of the music industry, contrasting it with the darker realities unveiled in the trial.

She reflects on her time working with Diddy:

"It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real. I went through things there." ([24:29])

O’Day’s testimony underscores the pervasive influence and control exerted by powerful figures within the industry, aligning with the prosecution's narrative of an abusive environment.

Upcoming Proceedings

Looking ahead, Robach and Holmes preview the upcoming testimonies expected to further illuminate the case. Notable forthcoming witnesses include a Los Angeles Police Department officer, a Los Angeles Fire Department arson investigator, Diddy’s stylist Deontay Nash, and an anonymous former employee referred to as "Mia."

Robach highlights the significance of these testimonies in potentially unveiling more layers of the alleged criminal activities:

"It will be very interesting to hear what Mia has to say on the stand today." ([36:11])

Conclusion

The episode concludes with Robach and Holmes emphasizing the critical nature of the ongoing trial and the importance of continued coverage. They express anticipation for the forthcoming testimonies and their potential to further substantiate the case against Diddy.

Robach poignantly reflects on the broader implications of the trial:

"This could be a wake-up call for a deeper understanding of what actually goes on, those dynamics, the power of them and what compels people to freeze or fight." ([32:39])

As the trial progresses, listeners are encouraged to stay informed through the podcast's comprehensive updates, ensuring they remain abreast of the latest developments in this landmark case.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• "She's probably so conflicted and so torn about what to do, what to say and what not to do." — Amy Robach ([22:43])
• "It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real. I went through things there." — Aubrey O’Day ([24:29])
• "This could be a wake-up call for a deeper understanding of what actually goes on, those dynamics, the power of them and what compels people to freeze or fight." — Amy Robach ([32:39])

Final Thoughts

This episode offers a thorough examination of the intricate and emotionally charged testimonies shaping the Diddy trial. Through detailed coverage and expert analysis, Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes provide listeners with a nuanced understanding of the case, emphasizing the profound personal and societal implications of the allegations against Sean Combs.

Transcript

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Hello, everyone. It's Wednesday, May 28th. Welcome to Amy and TJ. I'm Amy Robach.

[Justin Richmond]

And I'm TJ Holmes.

[Amy Robach]

Why are you puzzled when I said welcome to Amy and tj?

[Justin Richmond]

Um, because I forgot what we're doing. We do so many podcasted feels. This one's about relationship. That one's about crime. This one's about news. That one's about something else. So I. I forgot where we were.

[Amy Robach]

Yes, well, this is the Sean Diddy Combs recap that we've been doing every day after testimony. So we can give you a one stop shop where you don't have to go and try to find who said what when. It's very confusing when you go through all the different news outlets to see what happened to trial. So we have done all of that for you and we're gonna go over what happened in court yesterday. And it was pretty remarkable what happened on Tuesday. This is the start of the third full week of testimony, the prosecution's case against Combs. There was only one witness, but my goodness, she packed a punch.

[Justin Richmond]

This was Capricorn Clark. She makes an impression. If you have no idea who she is, just by her name. Her name is Capricorn Clark. She's a former assistant to Diddy and global brand director for him. She also worked as Cassie's creative director and she worked several people rogues we've heard from so far. I think she might be the one that's worked the longest for him. Of the people, at least that we've heard from 2004 to 2012 was it.

[Amy Robach]

But then once again, she came back again all the way up to 2018 and just last year, in April of 2024, in the spring of 2024, she tried to work for him again.

[Justin Richmond]

So they have a long standing relationship. And look, she, this is a lady. A lot of people have gotten up and testified about what they saw and here and there. And some of his assistants, she was in that inner circle and she handled even called herself his protector. So she was right there and very trusted and she saw a little bit of everything according to her testimony. And she gave some details. There were even, it's hard to compare days of testimony and details that are more chilling than others. But some of the stuff she talked about will leave you shook.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah, I mean, she was with Diddy like we mentioned, on and off for 20 years. And not only did she see things or hear things, she says she experienced things directly, which is why a lot of people have questioned why she would stay so long, why she would stand by him for so long, why she wanted to return to work again. And again, if you believe what her testimony is, it's hard to imagine that you would choose to continually put yourself back in that kind of environment.

[Justin Richmond]

Look, she said it, it's complicated. My relationship with him is complicated. She said even to this day she misses the job and she would still go back again. As early as last year, she was still in some conversations about a potential role. She might have with Diddy. But she was described on the stand yesterday at times that there are several reporters in the room from several outlets who are giving their accounts. But they were all rose pretty universal in saying she cried uncontrollably at times on the stand.

[Amy Robach]

I think the verb was she was sobbing uncontrollably, which gives you an image of what was happening up on the stand. But, yeah, she said throughout it all she wanted Diddy's approval. And that's what we've heard time and time again. He created something with some of these women and some of these assistants and some of these folks who worked with him who begged and craved for his approval. And she said when she kept going back, she, quote, wanted her life back.

[Justin Richmond]

She wants approval from a guy who, she also said on the stand threatened to kill her on more than one occasion, who fired her on more than one occasion. She heard him threaten to kill other people as well. She witnessed what she said was horrific violence. But at the same time, we are still talking about someone that she had whatever level of respect for or adoration for or maybe just the role she was in and the power she had by having access who knows what? But she said her relationship was complicated. And still to this day, she misses the job.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah. And that is truly complicated. I can't think of a better word to describe it than that. And what her testimony, what we heard from her yesterday, was key and central to the prosecution's case, specifically to a kidnapping charge because she claims she was kidnapped by Sean Diddy Combs in the early morning hours to go over to Kid Cudi's house. That was, of course, the rapper who he had a beef with because he was seeing his on again, off again girlfriend, Cassie Ventura. And when he found out, he, according to Capricorn, got her in the early morning hours and forced her. He had a gun in his hand. He showed up disheveled. She said he had a rip in the crotch of his pants and said, we're going to kill Cudi.

[Justin Richmond]

This was important. This was a critical part of the prosecution's case. Because if they prove or convince the jury at least that Diddy was involved and his associates were involved in other crimes as a part of his enterprise, they're trying to prove a racketeering charge. They're trying to essentially show what they showed when they were convicting mobsters back in the 1970s and 1980s, this RICO charge, if you will, they're trying to prove he has a criminal enterprise. So this is why it's important Another crime, kidnapping is a pretty serious crime. And Capricorn Clark, same claim, she was taken against her will. This story is central, I guess, for the first couple to. The first couple of weeks of this trial, Rose, because Kid Cudi, a lot of people didn't even know his name potentially, and weren't familiar with his music, but he has been central to this case because he is the guy who was dating Cassie. Diddy found out about it, and it set off this whole chain of events.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah. So yesterday we heard Capricorn Clark testify that Diddy and his security guard was. Went into Cudi's house. And again, she's there against her will, she claims. And that's when she says she called Cassie on a burner phone to tell her that Diddy was in front of Cudi's house. She goes through this whole explanation about Cudi coming to the house, pulling up alongside Diddy's vehicle and then taking off. And she describes a chase ensued between the two.

[Justin Richmond]

She said it felt like it was forever, but it might have been a minute before Cuddy essentially got away. But that scene that night, we've heard it. We heard Cassie talk about. We heard Cudi talk about it, but to see it or hear it, at least from this witness's perspective, a witness who claimed to be along for the ride against her will, that is kidnapping. He has a loaded gun telling us she doesn't have a choice but to come with him. So that is why she ends up being there. But the. You go back to say she called Cassie from a burner phone. The fact that you were in any situation in life, that you need a burner phone so that your boyfriend or your boss can't find out about what you're doing, that was just the idea. She said she was the one that took her to Best Buy to get a burner phone when things got rough with her and Diddy.

[Amy Robach]

I mean, if you have to do that, you have to question what you're doing and who you're spending your time with, because that is deeply concerning and speaks volumes. She also testified that after all of this, Diddy told Cassie and Capricorn that. That they had to get Kid Cudi to not go to police. Otherwise, if they didn't do that, she claims that Diddy said he'll kill them all.

[Justin Richmond]

Her words, her testimony under oath, saying that happened. She made a comment earlier as well, along those same lines, that Cassie's gonna get us all killed. Right. In dating Kid Cudi, she just knew how explosive potentially that situation was. That you're having to sneak around or get a burner for her, all these things. But the idea that she was told on more than one occasion by Diddy that he's gonna kill folks, including her. I'm gonna kill all y' all if you don't just convince him to not go to police. Which they apparently they did convince him.

[Amy Robach]

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[Justin Richmond]

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[Amy Robach]

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[Amy Robach]

I thought it was so remarkable listening or hearing about Capricorn's testimony about Cassie. It was all over the place. On one hand she talked about her and she Worked directly for her, saying she went from being more of a sweet model to a feisty girlfriend. Feisty.

[Justin Richmond]

Her words.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah. Yes. And then. Yes, what you just said. She said Cassie was gonna get us all killed, but that's crazy. Like putting the blame on Cassie. Cassie is gonna get you all killed. When the finger at times she did should be pointed directly if this is all true, at Diddy for wanting to kill them all versus the responsibility on Cassie to not get them all killed.

[Justin Richmond]

Well, that's the. I guess that speaks once again to the psyche of everybody in that world, knowing that this guy is the one we all depend on, this is the one we all have to serve. So let's figure out what we have to do, what we have to endure, whether that's pain, whether that's embarrassment, whether whatever we have to do to survive in his world and to keep this guy happy. Bill, look, the prosecution, if nothing else, is building an idea of a world that we had no idea about and.

[Amy Robach]

Has been consistent and makes no sense in the real world to not blame the person who's actually committing these atrocities or who you say is, or rather than the people who are making him upset, which that's kind of an insane thing to think about for me. And she also said that Cassie wanted her out of Diddy's inner circle. So, you know, she definitely had a tumultuous relationship with Cassie, and certainly that was explained on the stand, at least by Capricorn. And it's just wild to hear all of what she said happened specifically on the Kid Cudi situation. The cross examination was very interesting because Diddy's lawyers went after Capricorn because, yes, she's saying she was kidnapped. She's saying she went against her will. She's saying he brandished a gun and she felt like her life was under threat. But they pointed out that she previously said she went with Diddy to Kid Cudi's house in order to keep him from doing something stupid. She denied that. Says she doesn't remember saying that. And that's the question. Did she go willingly to protect him, to do her job, or what she thought was her job, or was she taken against her will?

[Justin Richmond]

Look, the legal experts out there say this is a very important part of the prosecution's case. They need to prove that a crime had taken place here. The kidnapping is a very, very important thing. It's not just about sentiments anymore. It's not just about, oh, my, this guy's crazy. He had a gun, he did some silly stuff, he was mad he was even hitting a woman. No, no, no. The kidnapping, they say, is very important in building a case about a criminal enterprise. So there was another potential incident in which she was kidnapped, though, if they could possibly prove, because Capricorn Clark explained that there was another incident, a different year, in which she was in charge of jewelry for Diddy. That bag went missing, and she was taking robes to an abandoned floor of a building, a dilapidated building, and was subjected to a lie detector test all day, several days, by some big dude who told her she needed to act right, or you're gonna find yourself in the East River.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah.

[Justin Richmond]

He gave her that threat when she was. She was so nervous they couldn't get a good reading, they said, on the lie detector. And he told her, you need to calm down, because if I can't get a good reading, they're gonna throw you in the river. So that's a threat. 1. And potential kidnapping as well. So that is. Now, the details are salacious in that, but for legal reasons, this is very important for them building their case.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah, you just put yourself. Or imagine. It does sound like a scene out of a movie. It doesn't sound like real life. This was all happening here around the Manhattan area. And apparently she described this guy, you said a big dude. She said he was five times the size of her, is what she said on the stand. And he was intimidating. And yes, she said she felt like her life was under threat because she couldn't relax enough or calm down enough for the lie detector to have a good reading when that bag of diamonds went missing. She also describes another incident back in 2006 where she apparently walked up to Diddy's personal chef and made an offhanded comment because they didn't have turkey bacon. And she said, I hate living here or something under her breath. The chef hears it and goes and tells Diddy in the next room what she just said. And then what Diddy did next, she claims he came running at her, running at her from the other room and pushed her violently because. And then said, if you don't want to live here, get the F out of here now. And so she says she did leave. So you hear all of this and these stories, what she witnessed, what she experienced, she says, and she's still begging years and years later to come back to work for him, pleading for his job, for her job, begging him for forgiveness.

[Justin Richmond]

That was over the Cudi stuff, right? Yeah, yeah. That was emails, right? She said she sent in 2014 and 15. This is one part where they said she did cry pretty hard on the stand, having to read these emails in which she was begging for forgiveness for having not told him that Cassie was dating Cudi. That was 10 years ago. And she's on the stand still crying about it.

[Amy Robach]

And. Yes, but this is after she's been pushed, after she's been threatened, after she's been afraid for her life. She's begging for forgiveness. That's wild to me to hear. Hear her talk about this. And then there was an incident in Central Park.

[Justin Richmond]

Now that one is again. She was taken to Central Park. It was late at night, just Diddy and a security guard. I. This one jumped out at me because I think about Central Park. We spend so much time in Central Park. We think about how many times we've run or enjoyed a. There are nothing but happy thoughts. Quite frankly, anytime I think about Central.

[Amy Robach]

Park, setting of beautiful movies, and you're strolling hand in hand, or you're taking a beautiful run, or you're taking in, you know, the beautiful scenery and the people. Yeah. You're not thinking about violent crimes. I mean, I know they can happen, but certainly it's not what you think of.

[Justin Richmond]

So this is why this one got me and got maybe a lot of New Yorkers to think you might have been, you know, just hanging out in the park on a pleasant evening, and Diddy was threatening to kill a woman under the COVID of darkness somewhere there with his security guard. She said, yeah, took her to the park. And this was because she had a previous relationship or a working relationship with Suge Knight, who was a business rival, a rap rival, Rap industry rival with. With Diddy. She didn't disclose that previously. He found out about it, got upset, and took her and threatened to kill her in the park.

[Amy Robach]

And when he fired her, he told her he'd make her kill herself.

[Justin Richmond]

He's gonna make things that bad for her. And she believes she got blacklisted. She tried unsuccessfully for a while to find work in the industry. But all this stuff we're saying about her to this day, if he gets. If he's found not innocent, if he called her and asked her to come back and work, I absolutely think she's gone.

[Amy Robach]

You mean if he's found not guilty? You mean if he walks.

[Justin Richmond]

If he walks and gets back. What I'm saying, I'm making an extreme point. My point being, after all we're hearing, I don't think there's a question that this woman still feels some sense of loyalty to him and would still return to his circle if she were allowed to do so.

[Amy Robach]

Would he allow that? I mean, she's being compelled to testify. Obviously she's not doing this because she chose to. Most of the folks on the stand are there because they're compelled to. Speaking to their fear of retribution or any sort of retaliation. I can't even imagine what these folks are thinking about after hearing their testimony and staring at him right there in the courtroom as they're saying all of these mind blowing things, what it would be like for them if he is not convicted. I haven't even gone there, but I'm just now thinking about what that must feel like, the fear and the trepidation that might speak to some of the sobbing and the crying. She's probably so conflicted and so torn about what to do, what to say and what not to do. Amy Robach and T.J. holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum selling artist Danity King. Alum Aubrey Oday joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.

[Justin Richmond]

Aubrey o' Day is sitting next to us. Here you are as we sit here right up the street from where the trial is taking place. Place. Some people saw that you were going to be in New York and they immediately started jumping to conclusions. So can you clear that up? First of all, are you here to testify in the Diddy drop? Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise based on her firsthand knowledge from her days on making the band as she emerged as the breakout star. The truth of the situation would be opposite of the glitz and glamour.

[Amy Robach]

It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real. I went through things there. Listen to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O' Day covering the Diddy trial on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Amy Robach]

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[Justin Richmond]

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[Amy Robach]

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[Amy Robach]

One thing she did do, despite all the things, perhaps negative, that she said about Cassie Ventura, she absolutely corroborated Cassie's testimony about being beaten by Diddy Combs. And so many who have gone up on the stand have done the same. They have corroborated Cassie's testimony about the violence she endured from Diddy.

[Justin Richmond]

This one was tough to hear.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah. She says she saw, personally, Diddy kick Cassie repeatedly while she was in fetal position, silently crying after he found out about Kid Cudi. She witnessed it firsthand.

[Justin Richmond]

That's tough to hear. That one's tough to hear. Look, so much of this testimony has been just brutal and devastating. And to imagine somebody endured that repeatedly for years. But this was one, I guess I, for some reason got very much a visual of this to imagine. Yeah, I mean, Cassie's not a big girl, but she's crawling just to be in that position, essentially giving up, essentially saying, please stop. I'm not fighting you. I have nothing. It's not just smacking somebody with a hand to kick somebody repeatedly. Tough to hear. And this is. These are all allegations, but for some reason, that one is one of all we've heard that I visualized and had such a reaction to that description of her. And then the crying silently. Even that detail.

[Amy Robach]

Yes. I mean, it's. And it was so bad that Cassie said, I'm sorry, excuse me, that Capricorn Clark said she called Cassie's mom and said, he, as in Diddy, is beating the shit out of your daughter. And she said, this is also so devastating that Cassie's mom told her, I can't call the police, but you can please help her. That I don't care who you are. You're a mom, you're a parent. You. The idea that you're getting a phone call saying your daughter's being beaten severely, and you say, I can't call police.

[Justin Richmond]

That's a tough one.

[Amy Robach]

Can you please help her?

[Justin Richmond]

That's a tough one.

[Amy Robach]

That is just devastating to me. And to think about the picture they're painting of Diddy, you know, when you talk about kicking someone when they're not fighting back, when they're clearly in a position of protection and that you just keep going after them, that just, I can't even get my head around that. That reminds me of people who hurt animals. When you start hurting the helpless, that's when it goes to a whole other level of cruelty.

[Justin Richmond]

Look, this thing, right, you can't, you shouldn't kick a man when he's down. I just. That visual in that description that she gave and this, I don't know what. Look, we've talked about this plenty here. There's so many things in here for us to examine. From the music industry, from the young people who are in it, to fame, to wealth, to power, to sex, to all many things to race. There's so much to examine in here, but this is one and I hope something we continue to learn about domestic violence and victims of domestic violence. Being a friend and a family member of folks who might be going through this stuff because these are two women who I believe loved this girl, that really cared for Cassie. One is looking at her being kicked repeatedly and won't call police. She calls the girl's mother, who no one I would argue on the planet loves Cassie more than her mom and her mom didn't do anything. What in God's name are we doing? And I do not envy now criticizing the women for the position that they were in or they were put in, but what are we doing when that is happening?

[Amy Robach]

Yeah, I think this could be hopefully a wake up call for a deeper understanding of what actually goes on, those dynamics, the power of them and what compels people to freeze or fight. You know, it's, it's, or you know, it's like they say when you're in certain situations that are stressful, you have the flight or fight, but there's a freeze as well. And you see that happening a lot. When Capricorn was being cross examined, there was one and I think it was the final question that Diddy's attorneys asked Capricorn and this was fairly devastating. We talked about how much she bolstered Cassie's testimony and corroborated her testimony. This last question did the opposite. It certainly, if anything, it could have planted a seed of doubt in terms of Cassie's willingness or unwillingness to be a part of everything.

[Justin Richmond]

Yeah. And I think what she was up there for three days, Cassie and her testimony. And look, they cross examined her and their questions about where was she on that fence? Right. How much of it was she there as a victim, how much of it was she an accomplice, how much was she there willingly doing this stuff? And I think that they Were trying to make a point here. And I think they made a point to do this question last. But Cassie was asked, excuse me, Capricorn was asked about a conversation she'd had with Cassie and she had told, according to Capricorn, was trying to plead with Cassie. Get out of this relationship with Diddy. Stop dating him, is the advice she was trying to give. And this robes is what she said. Cassie's response to that was, jay Z is taken.

[Amy Robach]

Who would I date? That's hard to hear.

[Justin Richmond]

And that's the end of the. After all whole day she's testified. That is the last thing that the jury heard. And I, when I saw it, I was rattled by it. And you start to consider or rethink, go give a second thought to other things you thought maybe you already put to bed about this case. Like, oh, I thought one thing. But wait a minute, wow.

[Amy Robach]

Did she stay Because. And she endured whatever she did willingly because she liked the fame, she liked the power, she liked the money, she liked the access, she liked that life. And so she put up with obvious abuse that we've heard testified by so many people. I don't think that is in question whatsoever. But was she complicit because she liked the end result, even if the means by which she had to get those results were horrific and heinous. She chose to be in that world and to be in that position because she liked the way she was living.

[Justin Richmond]

That is what the jury now is considering. And they now only need one juror to buy into that enough. And the next thing you know, this is not the guilty verdict that the prosecution is after. And again, this been said in jest. Well, she's just making a little joke, but it didn't seem to come off that way. And it, it certainly is not why they asked the question at the end of her testimony, that testimony is going to continue. She's done. But she was the only one on the stand yesterday. Actually went a little past their usual 3 o' clock break time in the afternoon. But today four more witnesses are expecting and I guess, what is it, two of them would have, might have some more personal stories about Diddy.

[Amy Robach]

Right. So one we'll hear from a Los Angeles Police Department officer and a Los Angeles Fire Department arson investigator. But the ones that I think we were just referencing, that will be perhaps the most interesting will be Diddy's stylist, Deontay Nash. Gonna hear from the Stylus. And then this might be a big one. The government did say it wanted to call another alleged victim of Diddy's. This one will be anonymous. They're giving her the moniker Mia as she takes the stand. Mia is a pseudonym. We all we know is that she's one of Combs former employees and that she wants and wishes to remain anonymous. We were told some of these women would be coming forward but they would not be revealing their identity. So it will be very interesting to hear what Mia has to stay say on the stand today.

[Justin Richmond]

All right, and we will continue to update you here folks. For now, I'm TJ Holmes along with Amy Robot giving you your daily Diddy trial update. Thanks for tuning in. We will check in with you again soon.

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[Amy Robach]

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[Amy Robach]

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[Dan Bush]

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