The Diddy Trial: Verdicts In, Bail Denied!!!

Summary

Aubrey O’Day Covers the Diddy Trial: Verdicts In, Bail Denied!!!

Podcast Information:

• Title: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial
• Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
• Episode: The Diddy Trial: Verdicts In, Bail Denied!!!
• Release Date: July 2, 2025

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1. Introduction to the Verdict

Timestamp: [02:49]

The episode kicks off with T.J. Holmes announcing the culmination of the Diddy trial. He emphatically states, “the verdict comes down... we know Diddy won” (02:49). However, Amy Robach refines this by clarifying that Diddy only partially won the trial. She explains, “he partially won because he evaded the most punitive and harshest counts against him” (03:26). This nuanced victory includes avoiding life in prison but still faces certain charges.

2. Bail Denial and Sentencing

Timestamp: [03:29] - [11:08]

Amy elaborates on the bail situation, mentioning, “he was denied bail... his sentencing hearing could be moved up a little bit, but it's scheduled for October 3rd” (03:30). The denial of bail stems from Diddy's conviction on being a "john" and his admission of domestic violence, which raised concerns about his propensity for violence (04:56).

T.J. Holmes discusses the prosecution's stance, noting, “racketeering not guilty... he could possibly get two years in jail or less” (04:43). Amy adds that despite his family's efforts to secure his release by offering a $1 million bond and other conditions, the judge maintained that Diddy remained a flight risk and a threat due to his admissions of domestic violence (05:37).

3. Jury Deliberations and Verdicts

Timestamp: [06:14] - [07:02]

The hosts reflect on the jury’s decision-making process. Amy comments on the jury’s initial indecision, saying, “they eventually reached unanimous verdicts on all five counts” (07:02). TJ adds that after initial deliberations where some jurors were unmovable, a unanimous decision was eventually achieved, leading to Diddy’s partial victory.

4. Courtroom Reactions and Atmosphere

Timestamp: [07:13] - [09:10]

Amy describes a courtroom artist's sketch depicting Diddy on his knees in prayer, highlighting the emotional turmoil he experienced during the verdict announcement (07:38). The courtroom erupted in applause from his family, defying the judge’s instructions to remain calm (08:18). Despite Diddy's substantial bail offer of a $50 million house and 24-hour security, the judge denied his release, citing his admissions of domestic violence and the need to prevent potential flight risks (08:56).

5. Prosecution's Strategy and Overreach

Timestamp: [10:14] - [24:53]

The discussion shifts to the prosecution's handling of the case. Amy criticizes the prosecution for overreaching by targeting Diddy with severe charges like racketeering and sex trafficking, which she believes undermined their case. She states, “Why then try to go make some bigger case to put him behind bars for the rest of his life... that’s where you lose the confidence of people” (23:34).

T.J. echoes this sentiment, highlighting the disconnect between Diddy’s admitted misdemeanors and the grandiose charges. He remarks, “He's an abuser that they tried to convince us was a racketeer, and it just didn't make sense” (23:41). Both hosts agree that the prosecution's approach may have backfired, leading to public skepticism about the justice system’s intentions.

6. Implications for the Justice System

Timestamp: [25:30] - [28:39]

The conversation delves into broader implications for the justice system. Amy points out the disparity in resources between high-profile individuals like Diddy and ordinary citizens, questioning the fairness of legal outcomes based on wealth and influence (27:46). T.J. adds that this case further erodes public trust, as it reinforces the perception that the justice system disproportionately targets successful Black men while failing to adequately address their actual offenses (28:06).

7. Future Developments and Juror Confidentiality

Timestamp: [20:33] - [26:58]

Amy and T.J. discuss the potential fallout from the case, including juror interviews. The judge encouraged jurors not to discuss their deliberations, emphasizing the confidentiality of the jury process (20:33). Amy anticipates future insights from jurors regarding their experiences and decisions, stating, “I cannot wait to hear what they have to say” (26:30).

T.J. speculates on possible appeals and public reactions, noting that the prosecution may suffer reputational damage for overcharging, which could influence future cases and public perceptions of the justice system (27:46).

8. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Timestamp: [28:39] - [29:11]

As the episode wraps up, Amy acknowledges the complexity of the verdict—while Diddy won certain aspects, many victims and advocacy groups feel justice was not fully served. She emphasizes the prosecution’s overreach and its negative impact on public trust (24:53).

T.J. concludes by reiterating the significance of the verdict as a “massive victory for this man,” yet acknowledges the ongoing debate about the justice system’s fairness and effectiveness (28:39). The hosts express their commitment to continue following the case and its repercussions on both Diddy and the broader legal landscape.

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Notable Quotes:

• Amy Robach: “He partially won because he evaded the most punitive and harshest counts against him...” (03:26)

• T.J. Holmes: “He racketeering, not guilty. That was life in prison.” (04:11)

• Amy Robach: “It was incredible. It showed Diddy on his knees in praying position...” (07:38)

• Amy Robach: “If jurors are talking about it, that could also lend itself to create certain issues...” (20:33)

• T.J. Holmes: “He is one of the most successful black men we've ever seen exist in this country...” (28:06)

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This episode provides an in-depth analysis of the Diddy trial's outcomes, emphasizing the partial victory for Diddy, the contentious bail denial, and the broader implications for the justice system. Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes offer insightful commentary on the prosecution's strategies, public perceptions, and the delicate balance between legal proceedings and public trust.

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[Amy Robach]

Well, you said Diddy won, but I would say he partially won.

[TJ Holmes]

Whew.

[Amy Robach]

I gotta hear this because yes, yes, he obviously evaded the most punitive and the harshest counts against him and so he avoided life in prison. So, yes, for that alone, of course, he, his freedom is coming. But a lot of folks thought, and including you thought that he might actually be on his private plane tonight, flying back to Miami or wherever he wanted to go with a few conditions attached to that bail. But he was denied bail. And right now, his sentencing hearing, this could be moved up a little bit. But right now it is scheduled for the fall, October 3rd. So he's still behind bars, Sweetheart, he.

[TJ Holmes]

Lost his bail hearing. He won his trial today. He won flat out. I would love to see any lawyer, any analyst get on TV and try to spin this any other way than total humiliation for the government, a total loss by the government and some will tell you, a total waste of time by the government in overcharging this man. They can have that argument down the road. But he racketeering, not guilty. That was life in prison. The two kids counts that came with minimum 15 years.

[Amy Robach]

Not guilty, sex trafficking.

[TJ Holmes]

He has now been found guilty of being a john. He has been found guilty of paying for a prostitute and he could possibly get two years in jail or less.

[Amy Robach]

That is correct. Absolutely, you are correct. However, the reason why he was denied bail because a lot in. In to your point, he was convicted of being a john. That would not normally be a conviction in which somebody would be held or denied bail until a sentencing hearing happened. But because of the domestic violence that he clearly admitted to, that the defense absolutely copped to because the judge said that he has a propensity for violence behind closed doors. And there were two victim or at least witness statements to the judge asking to keep him behind bars until his sentencing that is why he is still behind bars tonight and until his sentencing.

[TJ Holmes]

Yeah. Cassie Ventura Fine is part of the reason he is still behind bars tonight. She is one of the folks who sent a letter to the judge making a case for why he should be denied bail. He should not be released while awaiting, awaiting sentencing. So if we go back, it started this morning. You got the news, I know everybody got the alerts, but this was around 11 o' clock, 11 o' clock this morning. Jury sends a note. We have a verdict. The jury eventually comes in, the verdicts get read. We knew four were already settled. We knew racketeering was the problem. But lo and behold, Robe, sure enough, they must have figured it out. We were told people were unpersuadable.

[Amy Robach]

You know what, isn't that so interesting? Because, yes, we were conjecturing last night. We were like, is he guilty on some of the charges? And they're trying to figure out racketeering. Is he guilty on all of the charges? We figured there had to be some guilty verdicts in there. We just weren't sure which was which. That made the most sense for them to be confused about racketeering. But it is remarkable that they could go from actually just initially deliberating for 60 minutes, an hour, 70 minutes, saying, this one juror will not budge, they will not move. And then after the second day saying, we can't come up with a unanimous decision. The deliberation has stopped. People are unmovable. And yet somehow, when you ask a jury to go back and to keep trying to, they do. And wow, I was impressed that, that quickly they all reached unanimous verdicts on all five counts.

[TJ Holmes]

So they were movable. Somebody was movable. Exactly the word they. They were ready to. They actually told the judge the day before it was pointless. They. They didn't even need to keep deliberating because nobody's going to change their mind.

[Amy Robach]

Good night's sleep changes a lot of folks minds and dispositions sometimes, right?

[TJ Holmes]

So we get that word. So here it is. So the reaction, at least the reaction we were, yes, we were able to read through some of the notes from people who were in the room describing what happened. But this might have been the most valuable courtroom artist sketch I have seen for the whole trial.

[Amy Robach]

It was incredible. It showed Diddy on his knees in praying position. And that was pretty remarkable. That was the emotion that he was experiencing as he was awaiting these verdicts coming down. I mean, I just. So many of us tried to imagine what it would have been like for him, for his family members, knowing that Verdicts were in that they hadn't been announced, that they were waiting on this final, most important, most serious charge. And when the news came in that they had unanimous decisions, he fell to his knees in prayer. That was a very powerful sketch.

[TJ Holmes]

And applause in the courtroom from his family. And you better believe those cheers erupted. And it makes sense that they would look every judge. And I know you've been in plenty of courtrooms. I think I would say 50, 50, in seeing whether or not the folks in the courtroom obey the judge when he says, now, when the verdict is read, I do not want any reactions from either side. And sure enough, it gets blown out of the water. Never the case. But yeah, you can imagine the eruption of emotion because they knew when they heard it, what they were hearing, and they knew that Diddy had won that trial. Absolutely. He lost his bail hearing again. Look, there was a high bar. Remember, he put up his $50 million house, 24 hour security, all these things he offered. And the judge wouldn't let him be out on bail awaiting trial during the trial. So this judge is essentially saying, you know, you haven't proven that you're any less of a flight risk.

[Amy Robach]

Nothing changed. And he also said, even when Diddy knew he was under investigation, that there was still that admission of domestic violence while he was waiting to see if he was going to be arrested and charged. But he knew he was being investigated. And he pointed out to the point of the fact that Jane even testified to this. And Diddy did not deny physically assaulting her while he knew he was being investigated. So that was part of the reason why the judge said, no, your. Your bail is denied. But even his mother, his sister, his eldest daughter, actually put up a million dollars bond. They signed it. They said he would only travel to four states. Florida, California, New Jersey and New York. They said he would surrender his passport. They really did everything they could to try and compel the judge to allow him to await sentencing at home until he was then sentenced. And the sentencing actually came down quite a bit because we heard initially from Comey, from the prosecution, saying they were going to ask for 20 years. That changed pretty quickly, which is interesting throughout the day.

[TJ Holmes]

Yeah. Because she probably went and opened up that legal book and saw what they were looking at and saw what the guidelines were. And so I don't have the months you have, but they have the. And the judge said this like the defense, prosecution, y' all are so far off on what y' all want.

[Amy Robach]

They wanted 20 years. Then they amended it to this. The Prosecution is asking for 51 to 63 months in terms of sentencing. So that's anywhere from four to five years roughly. The defense is asking for 21 to 27 months. So just shy. Yeah, just, just shy of two years to two years and three months.

[TJ Holmes]

So if you take do the 21 months, say they want to send up to 21 months. You know what that is? One year. Time served is nine months. It counts against the sentence. He's already served nine months in jail.

[Amy Robach]

So that's another year behind bars.

[TJ Holmes]

Yeah, that's all that would be. Let's say he got 21 months. Nine months of that is time served. Diddy is going to go away for one year and be back after all this. Possibly. We don't know what the judge is going to do, but it's just, it is fascinating to see what the possibilities now are.

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[TJ Holmes]

I guess we should explain to folks what was going on with us today. We actually live very close by to where the trial takes place. We've talked about this plenty. If you listen to any of our podcasts, you know this. So we live, what are we, a few blocks away from where the trial is happening. We've been following this thing closely every single day, doing at least one ditty update, sometimes doing two. I mean, because it's warranted.

[Amy Robach]

Two.

[TJ Holmes]

And sure enough, the verdict comes down. You know where we were at JFK and then 30,000ft in the air with no wi fi.

[Amy Robach]

Yes. And so this, we have actually a family vacation with all of our daughters that has been planned for months, months before we even knew that the Diddy trial was going to be what it was, that we'd be covering it in the way we were. And Murphy's Law would have it so that the very day this trial we've been following so closely, where all of the decisions are made, the verdicts come down, the Bail is either granted or denied. We are stuck without any service, without any WI fi and no way. So we were the last people to know actually what happened.

[TJ Holmes]

Yes, we probably were. We were probably the last, certainly the sentencing. I was losing it. As we were landing. Nobody was getting WI fi. I was snatching your phone. I was snatching Sabine's phone. Somebody. Does anybody get this to work? But it's just how it happens. But I rome. I say we live a couple blocks away. We probably would have walked over today.

[Amy Robach]

100% we would have.

[TJ Holmes]

But seeing this is something we haven't talked about. Is that the. What's described as pretty wild scene outside the courthouse today. Wild involving arguments involving yelling and screaming and baby oil and all kinds of foolishness.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah, you hear about baby oil being, like, thrown at different people and squirted. And given all of the testimony that we heard, you could think maybe it was in jest or. I don't want to say it was playful, but you could think maybe it was just people expressing themselves and using certain props that were pertinent to the trial. But no, this was described as mean spirited, as anger, as volatile as not. Honestly, I say we probably would have gone down there and just observed, but it didn't sound like a scene anyone wanted to be near. In fact, we actually, on our way to the airport, we were driving. What was it, 6:30 in the morning? It was already a zoo out there. All the media tents were packed. All of the influencers and YouTubers and all the folks who have come on to describe and be kind of novice journalists there, just describing. We had all just swarmed. That area. It was fascinating to see as we were driving through it and then to see what it's turned into this afternoon, given the verdict and given the sentencing is wild.

[TJ Holmes]

And what will they do now? I am sure as we speak, it's possible juror interviews have already been secured, but they're coming, and folks are chasing those folks down. The judge did encourage the jury today before he let them go. You can do an interview if you want to. You're certainly not obligated. You can say no to all of them. But he encouraged them to not talk about the deliberations. What happens in that jury room should stay there. He reminded them of that.

[Amy Robach]

Is that in part because obviously there were juror issues throughout this trial. Not as significant as we've seen in other trials, but certainly there were juror issues. And that is always possibly a way for the defense to ask for an appeal based on certain things that may or may not have gone on during those deliberations. If jurors are talking about it, that could also lend itself to create certain issues within either. Either party. But the defense specifically to ask for an appeal. Now, granted, you said that he won, but he still was convicted of two charges. And if those two charges went away, he wouldn't have to spend any time in prison.

[TJ Holmes]

Are you still pushing back on the notion that Sean Diddy Combs won today?

[Amy Robach]

No, of course, this was almost best case scenario. Obviously, an acquittal on all charges would have been a full victory.

[TJ Holmes]

Goodness, I have no. I. If he got convicted on just one of the counts of prostitution for transportation for prostitution, maybe that was. There is nothing. This is unbelievable. This is a mass. Yes, it's a massive victory for this man.

[Amy Robach]

It is.

[TJ Holmes]

It absolutely is. And look, the overcharging, what needs to happen? Look, they. I guess they think they're doing what's best. I guess they think they're putting a monster in prison for the rest of his life. A mobster, the CEO of a criminal enterprise. You have to think they were doing this in good faith. You want to think that. But we've been talking about this Robes for the past few weeks. Our conversations have been about this thing like, wow, really? This is what the case boils down to. And if I had to sit on that jury saying I got to send a man to jail for the rest of his life for being a criminal enterprise CEO, well, the puzzling thing is.

[Amy Robach]

If you're a juror or if you're just a spectator like us and you're just watching this from afar, if you know he committed crimes that are irrefutably evidenced and he's even admitting them, but you choose not to charge him with those crimes because you try to go after some bigger fish, you try to create some larger, bigger trumped up charge, that's where you lose the confidence of people, of jurors, of humans who are witnessing this. I think everyone can say he did not treat women well, he was abusive, he did commit criminal acts. Charge him with those. Why then try to go make some bigger case to put him behind bars for the rest of his life when clearly he could have been charged and convicted. And he even says he would have admitted and pleaded guilty to the charges that he did. I mean, the crimes that he did commit. And I think that's an issue that a lot of folks are going to talk about and it's already being talked about among legal experts that the prosecution overreached and this blew back in their faces because of it.

[TJ Holmes]

He's an abuser that they tried to convince us was a racketeer, and it just didn't make sense. Sense to us.

[Amy Robach]

Right.

[TJ Holmes]

I. Intellectually and legally, but it just, it just. That's tough. And that's a very tough day for the prosecution to go through all this. Who knows how many millions this cost, those raids. That's. That's a lot of police time and investigation time and trial for this. And look, this is difficult because we've seen him behave badly. People want him to be in prison for what he did, but they actually don't want him to go to prison for racketeering and sex trafficking and all this. It's a bizarre thing that you look at this result and it's a win and a loss no matter who you are.

[Amy Robach]

Yes. I mean, obviously, there are plenty of victims, advocacy groups stepping up and speaking out and saying, this has done such a disservice to victims around the world who are sex trafficked, who are abused, whatever. So, in a weird way, yes, I hear what you're saying that Diddy won, but so many people lost. And I do think a lot of it is because the prosecution overreached.

[TJ Holmes]

You know what? Who. And again, when you say lost is, do they turn that anger to Diddy or where should it be directed for not going after him for the right thing, for. Why'd you overcharge him here? What? I don't. Who knows about that? But here's my wild card now for you. Trump, Trump with Trump now. Not mind at all pardoning a guy who's found guilty of hiring a prostitute.

[Amy Robach]

I don't know. It's a worthy question.

[TJ Holmes]

That's a much different pardon. Trump would love to be in the middle of this story right now.

[Amy Robach]

Who knows? It could. You know, with everything that's happened in this case, it would not surprise me if Trump jumped into the mix of all of this. But you know what? As much as we've been covering this, and yes, technically the trial is over, the verdicts have been handed down, but we're still awaiting sentencing. Diddy is still behind bars, and who knows how quickly the defense can expedite the sentencing, because they said that they obviously would. And it's. The judge said he's open to hearing that inquiry by the defense to get this sentencing over with so that he can continue. He's obviously serving his time regardless, so he's getting credit for time served. But, yeah, a year from now, a year from now, Diddy could Be a free man again.

[TJ Holmes]

We await the sentencing hearing. I had one more thing, but I guess we'll go ahead.

[Amy Robach]

Well, the jurors, the jurors are the other thing. Like, I think the second we start hearing from jurors. Oh, yeah, we'll jump back on this because I actually, personally, on a human level, cannot wait to hear who is willing to talk and what they're willing to tell us about their feelings, about what they heard, what they witnessed, what they thought. And I cannot wait to hear what they have to say. And of course, once we get any of that kind of information, we will absolutely jump back on and give you the latest on that.

[TJ Holmes]

I remember my thought it was about the justice system. Okay. Just took another hit every time, right. Biden said it, Mayor Adams said it. Trump always says it, that the justice system is unfair. It unfairly goes after people that they were being right, persecuted by the Justice Department is being used against them and all these things. And these high profile folks. Joe Biden pardoned his son, right. Talking about the justice system. It was all these things. So now when we see this, the government just went after this guy, the jury, the public said, no, that's not okay. That's a hit for the justice system. That's a hit now to where everybody can say, well, those charges are false. You can't believe now in so many instances. Well, yeah, well. And government said it must be true.

[Amy Robach]

And by the way, obviously, yes, Diddy is a black man, but he is a wealthy, wealthy, wealthy black man who can hire the best attorneys there are in this, or at least in this country to defend him. And how many people don't have that, how many people don't have that sort of resource to that point?

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It sucks. He, it's another hit for the justice system. He is one of the, He's a unicorn. He is one of the most successful black men we've ever seen exist in this country. He just, we witnessed his rise. He hired prostitutes. And you owe a federal case out of it. That again, it will sit with the public a certain way that you're still coming after us, no matter how low on the totem pole or how high you're coming after us on fairly. The Justice Department. Yes. Lost today. That's all I got.

[Amy Robach]

All right, well, we will continue to follow any developments that come out of this case. Again, yes, when we start hearing from jurors, we will jump back on. But in the meantime, y' all, thank you for listening to us. We hope you have a wonderful day today. And yeah. Just digest everything that happened in Lower Manhattan today. I'm Amy Robach on behalf of my partner TJ Holmes. Have a great Wednesday everybody.

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