The Jury Is Out…

Summary

Podcast Summary: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial

Episode: The Jury Is Out…
Release Date: July 1, 2025
Hosted By: Amy Robach, T.J. Holmes
Guest: Aubrey O’Day

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Introduction

In the compelling episode titled "The Jury Is Out…", hosts Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes, alongside guest Aubrey O’Day—a seasoned television personality and former member of Danity Kane—delve deep into the high-stakes trial of music mogul Sean "Diddy" Combs. This episode offers listeners an insider’s perspective, blending journalistic rigor with firsthand insights to dissect the multifaceted legal battle that has gripped the nation.

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Overview of the Diddy Trial

The trial centers around serious allegations against Diddy, including charges related to sexual misconduct, drug trafficking, and racketeering under the RICO Act. Mark Agniphilo, Diddy’s defense attorney, presented closing arguments aiming to dismantle the prosecution's case by portraying Diddy as a misunderstood figure and challenging the credibility of the accusers.

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Defense's Closing Arguments: A Breakdown

Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes meticulously analyze Agniphilo’s courtroom theatrics and argumentative strategies. The defense sought to undermine the prosecution's narrative by:

1. Characterizing the Accusers:

   • Agniphilo’s Strategy: He portrayed the female accusers as manipulative and insincere, often using derogatory language to describe their actions and motives. For instance, at [03:05], Agniphilo referred to the women as "hoes," attempting to discredit their testimonies.
   • Host Commentary: Amy criticizes this approach, stating, "The way he used those words over and over again in regards to her was disgusting." ([03:41])

2. Questioning the Integrity of Evidence:

   • The Tape Controversy: Agniphilo minimized the significance of a tape purportedly showing Diddy trying to reclaim his phone, suggesting it was merely a property dispute. He argued, "Diddy was just trying to get his phone back that she stole." ([04:45])
   • Host Insights: Aubrey O’Day counters this by highlighting the violent context surrounding the incident, emphasizing the physical assault depicted in the tape.

3. Reframing Diddy’s Persona:

   • Magical Workspace Narrative: Agniphilo described Diddy’s environment as "magical," downplaying allegations of drug use by labeling them as minor issues. He suggested, "He was just a nice guy with a little drug problem." ([05:15])
   • Critique: TJ Holmes points out the inconsistency in portraying Diddy as both a sensitive individual and a manipulative bully, questioning the believability of such a dual image.

4. Challenging Legal Definitions:

   • RICO Act Application: The defense questioned the applicability of the RICO Act to the charges, arguing that specific elements like arson and gun possession were not directly alleged. Agniphilo stated, "He didn’t have many, so I guess we could give it to him." ([12:40])
   • Hosts’ Analysis: Amy explains the complexity of RICO charges, noting that while specific crimes may not be individually listed, their combination under the act supports the prosecution’s case.

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Aubrey O’Day’s Insightful Analysis

Aubrey O’Day brings valuable context from her experiences in the entertainment industry, offering a nuanced perspective on Diddy’s behavior and the dynamics at play:

1. Power Dynamics and Control:

   • Aubrey emphasizes how Diddy leveraged his status to manipulate and control those around him, stating, "He was having all the girls do most of the work. He's a billionaire; he knows what's criminal and what's not." ([25:30])

2. Patterns of Behavior:

   • She identifies a consistent pattern in the testimonies, where Diddy’s demands were always centered around his desires, often at the expense of others’ well-being. "It was always what Diddy wanted. And when you didn't do what he wanted, there were consequences." ([36:50])

3. Credibility of Accusers:

   • Aubrey questions the motivations of the accusers, highlighting conflicts of interest and potential financial gains, which might undermine their credibility. "Cassie already got her 30 million before she took the stand. She didn't have to embarrass herself further by testifying." ([42:10])

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Notable Quotes

• Amy Robach: "The way he used those words over and over again in regards to her was disgusting." ([03:41])
• T.J. Holmes: "He was trying to paint Diddy like a humble, defeated guy who had some ego issues every now and then. But if he gets free, everybody that knows him, and I'll speak as an insider in that world, he is going right back to not giving a fuck about anybody but himself." ([14:50])
• Aubrey O’Day: "It was always what Diddy wanted. And when you didn't do what he wanted, there were consequences." ([36:50])

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Current Status and Moving Forward

As the episode progresses towards its conclusion, the hosts reflect on the jury's potential biases and the overwhelming media attention surrounding the case. With half of the charges being dropped, the focus now shifts to whether the remaining evidence is sufficient for a conviction. Amy and T.J. express their anticipation for the jury’s verdict, underscoring the case's broader implications on celebrity accountability and justice.

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Conclusion

The Jury Is Out… offers a thorough examination of the Diddy trial, blending courtroom analysis with insider perspectives. Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes, bolstered by Aubrey O’Day’s firsthand experiences, present a balanced narrative that challenges listeners to consider the complexities of power, influence, and truth in high-profile legal battles. This episode serves as an essential listen for anyone seeking to understand the intricacies of the Diddy trial and its ramifications on both the entertainment industry and the legal system.

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Listen to the full episode on iHeartRadio or your preferred podcast platform to gain comprehensive insights into this landmark trial.

Transcript

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[Host 2]

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[Host 1]

Why?

[Host 2]

What happened to Ellen Greenberg? A huge American miscarriage of justice. For an in depth look at the facts, see what happened to Ellen on Amazon. All proceeds to the national center for Missing and Exploited Children. Did it occur to you that he charmed you in any way? Yes, it did. But he was a charming man. It looks like the ingredients of a really grand spy story. Because this ties together the cold war with the new one. I often ask myself now, did I know the true Yan at all? Listen to hot agent of chaos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Amy and TJ presents Aubrey o' day covering the Diddy trial.

[Host 1]

All right, so Mark Agniphilo is closing for the defense, man, oh, man, it was one big theater performance. It was almost at some points like watching a comedy. A lot of theatrics, most all of the language that he teared into was basically leaning toward the girls being hoes. Cassie, if I heard him say she was pretty, she was sexy, she, you know, she liked the freaky behavior. Like, the way that he used those words over and over again in regards to her was disgusting. He really, really went into some.

[Host 2]

I.

[Host 1]

Would say, borderline race baiting with the. You can't trust the government. You can't trust the feds. You can't trust what they're doing right now with Puff, that causes prejudice in a jury. And Maureen Comey was not happy. She went off when they broke. But let's keep going through Agniphilo's defense of Diddy. So he describes Diddy's world as being magical. A magical workspace. Magical opportunities existed in this workplace. He was just a nice guy with a little drug problem. He said that Cassie was, again, a lot of the beautiful, sexy freak language being used with her. Balancing two men at one time. Isn't that so great? And what a hot, pretty, sexy girl would do. She's balancing two men. Capricorn Clark was in love with him. She was no victim. She was happy that he would come to her house at 5 in the morning. The type of language used on these women and the type of portrayals given to these women. You didn't have all that steam, though, when they were on the stand to be saying that shit to their face, though. Mia, also in love with them. Everyone had this magical opportunity with this nice guy with a little drug problem. And the tape. The tape. Too much is made of it. Diddy was just trying to get his phone back that she stole. Yeah, he shouldn't have hit her, but she took his phone, stole his property, completely minimizing it all. Where he was drop kicking and beating her and dragging her back into the room by her hair. He said there was nothing in that room that Cassie even feared. Nothing. Nothing at all. That's crazy. Talk to me. She was just beaten senseless and then brought back into a room with the man. She had nothing in there to fear. Okay, well, I was a reach. Kk. Everyone loves kk. Everyone in the entire industry loves them. Some kk, she's known and loved and revered around the world. And Puff, he would never hire an escort for sex. Are you serious? That's not what he would do. Like, these were literally the assertions that Mark Agniphila was making. In his closing, he says she was never raped. She lied. She was already dating older men. She was already working her way around. She was already with older men. This age difference they're talking about, that was what she was used to in her hoeing around is how he was making his sound. And then he said, did he made love to her when she. When the first night that they got together, he made love, sweet love. It wasn't him operating in his power, accessing his control in the situation. He made love with this young girl that and and even dared to venture into. She was his match. She played the game. She is playing everyone right now. She got 20 million from this man and then got 10 million from the Intercontinental. She's got 30 million and she has laughed her way through her performance for you guys. She was his match. That's crazy talk that he said that in no world that I ever experienced watching the day that Cassie came in with Ryan Leslie, her boyfriend, who I don't know that he's as old as Puff. But Ryan Leslie was not giving any of the same type of energy as Puff at all in any type of way. At Ryan Leslie was Puff's employee. He depended on Puff for a job. And when Puff stole him from stole her from Ryan and made love, according to Mark Agniphilo with her, Ryan Leslie was then let go. The key doesn't work when you go to open the door in the morning to your producer lab. He was let go. He lost everything. He was kicked out. He was replaced the second that he stole his girl. He was not on the same level as Diddy and nor was Cassie. I was there. I thought with my own eyes. I absolutely can attest to the fact that Diddy did not think that these people were on his level. And these people definitely did not think they were on his level. There was nobody in the room that I don't. I don't know that there's anyone in the world. I pray to God nobody on the jury would be that dumb to think that she was his match on his level. The jury is seeing the family behind him. They love them, the boys. They will hope they could date the boys one day. The girls are crying during the testimony. Phony. He's a family man. It's an eight pack of women against this black man. The optics and all of the things that are going on that they're looking at are likely to sway. Especially if you would believe this, this incredible fiction book that Mark Agniflo gave. He said if you want A good read this weekend. Go to the evidence and read their love notes. That's crazy. That's crazy to say. He told the jury, if you want a little break before the 4th of July, before you guys have to come in here and make a call, go to the spot in the evidence where their love notes were. Skip over the drugs and the racketeering and the trafficking and. And you know, don't even go look into the videos of people choking on piss and doing sexual acts and prostitution and all of this. Just go to their love notes. That's where it really kicks. He said Cassie was jealous over all the women and finally left. When he said Kim Porter was the love of his life, the great love, she couldn't take it anymore and she left like she always could. That's what he said. She left like she always could. She couldn't leave that night at Intercontinental though. She definitely couldn't leave that night. We all saw that on video. Agnipolo is trying to paint Diddy like a humble, defeated guy who had some ego issues every now and then. But if he gets free, everybody that knows him, and I'll speak as an insider in that world, he. He may look gray haired and frail now, but if he gets free, he is going right back to not giving a fuck about anybody but himself. Quickly, with the quickness, they said Cassie's again, beautiful woman. That was a freak. He literally said the words, Cassie was keeping it gangster. You know who you're trying to target with that language, sir? Stop it. Stop it now. Tacky, tacky baiting. They said, Kathy, Cassie was keeping it gangster. She had a burner phone on him. If she could have been fucking Diddy and Kid Cudi, she would have been with him, them both. Cassie's Diddy. Diddy had a bunch of bitches. Cassie had a bunch of bitches. Did he have burner phones for his bitches? So did Cassie. They were equal. Ain't no way. Ain't no way that any of that. And I don't care. Listen, if I were put. If I were put in the situation that Cassie did, and I'm not saying that Cassie didn't learn things along the way. I'm not. I don't even suggest that you could be around somebody as ill as Diddy for that long and not pick up some of his bad behavior. But from the girl that I saw that walked into the studio the first day and wanted to get signed, so what she become came at the end, I'm sure there was a very, very, very long Span of learning curves. Because that girl that I knew back in the very, very beginning was no equal. I don't even think she would have known what a burner phone was. And she was not in the business of being his equal. There were no equals to Diddy. And Diddy said it 5 billion times in his career. It's who he is. It's what he stands by. Now, all of a sudden, when his life is on the line, Cassie's his equal. Ain't no way. It was starting to get, like, cringy in the way that he was talking. The keeping it gangster. The these girls are equal. Cassie's is equal. She played the system. She walked out of here with 30, with the bag and she's laughing, having the time of her life. And he was moving. He was left, right, middle, center, back. He was moving. He said, I'm not using any exhibits. I'm not pulling anything up. I'm just gonna. I'm a freestyle. He says we can all agree something's a little off about Capricorn. That's crazy talk for a lawyer to say. Like, he's acting like him and the jury are best friends. Like, y' all, you're my people. Cassie was keeping it gangster. You can all agree Capricorn was a little off. Who are you talking to? Sir, get your credentials back on your suit. Good God. Do you really think that you can play. It's very clear what he's trying to do here and who he's talking to and who he's trying to play to. If you are a lawyer, you know that with 100% certainty. Out here in the streets known with 100% certainty. If you can't catch what I'm saying, then you might be one of those people that would. Would allow him to get off with this ridiculous performance. But he was. He was going rogue. He said Capricorn wasn't kidnapped. She went home every night of this supposed kidnapping. She was happy. Peter returned at 5am I don't know anyone that's happy to do shit at 5am so. Okay. He said, so she was kidnapped every day, nine to five. He then said, look around. Do you guys feel kidnapped? Looked over to the jury. You guys have to be here 9 to 5, you're required to sit here and do a job. Do you feel kidnapped? As if sitting and watching closing arguments in a jury is the same thing as what Kit Capricorn experienced when she was kidnapped for that week, having to take the lie detector test about the missing jewelry.

[Host 2]

How could a beautiful young first grade teacher be stabbed 20 times, including in the bat. Allegedly die of suicide. Yes, that was the medical examiner's official ruling. After a closed door meeting, he first named it a homicide.

[Host 1]

Why?

[Host 2]

What happened to Ellen Greenberg? A huge American miscarriage of justice. For an in depth look at the facts, see what happened to Ellen on Amazon. All proceeds to the national center for Missing and Exploited Children. Jan Marsalek was a model of German corporate success. It seemed so damn simple for him. Also, it turned out, a fraudster. Where does the money come from? That was something that I always was questioning myself. But what if I told you that was the least interesting thing about him? His secret office was less than 500 meters down the road. I often ask myself now, did I know the true Rian at all? Certain things in my life since then have gone to terribly wrong.

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[Host 2]

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I, I hope that you pick me apart. His voice changed media. His death shocked the nation. And it makes me so angry that he got himself killed because he had a big mouth. KOA morning talk show host Alan Berg reportedly was shot and killed tonight in downtown Denver. He pointed to the Denver phone book and said, well, There are probably 2 million suspects. This guy aggravated everybody. From iheart podcasts, this is Life. Live Wire the loud life and shocking murder of Alan Berg. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Maybe you've heard that Stonewall was a riot where queer people fought back against police. Or that it's the reason pride is celebrated this time of year.

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[Host 1]

He even ventured off into. Do you think he gave a shit? Cared about Capricorn or some jewelry? He was busy on Broadway. That's hilarious to me. This is giving comedy special. Yes, he cared about Capricorn. Yes, he cared about missing jewelry. He likely didn't care too much about Broadway. He's not the type of man that gives a fuck about Broadway, okay? That's crazy talk. They also went into. There was no gun. Why would he have a gun, sir? Because he's a criminal, and you found guns in his home when you raided it that had the fucking numbers scratched off on them. Illegal weapons, multiple. Why would he have a gun? Because they found them in his home, you dumb fuck. Why would he even have a gun? He says he didn't even need to have a gun. He says Cassie gave him the address to Cuddy's house. So he had it. Not like, either way, went to go find it, and then he said, diddy has everything to lose. Why would he go in and do anything to Kid Cudi? Diddy has had everything to lose for a very long time, yet he's got 80 plus civil lawsuits. Plus all the problems that have present been presented during this trial. He doesn't seem to give a fuck about everything he has to lose. Or he definitely feels like he's above it. We shall soon see. Capricorn wouldn't have even stayed if he pulled a gun on her. She wouldn't. The no gun saga was another movie theater reach on Agniphilo's part. Then he said, and Diddy would never need a gun. He likes. He's a street fighter. He likes using his fist. It was just simply gonna be a Hollywood brawl. He was just gonna put his fists up. He goes into. There's no evidence about this Molotov cocktail. There would have been DNA. Let's discuss that. First of all, this isn't a murder trial. Second of all, the man who got into the on the stand and testified to this Molotov cocktail didn't understand DNA. And they knew that and so that's why they're pointing in this direction. But you'll probably not, probably you wouldn't have found Diddy's DNA on the cocktail because Diddy didn't even get himself a glass of water. He didn't even plug his phone into a wall to charge it. That was KK's job. He didn't do the simple things that every human on this earth does multiple times a day because he was just that big and mighty and wealthy and powerful. Do you think he's in his room taping and stapling and mixing powder potions together in a Molotov cocktail? You don't know how the streets work and how powerful people get shit done. If you would be dumb enough to utilize that thinking only. But man, Mark Agnifolo sure thinks somebody on that jury is dumb as rocks. If I were a jury member, I would be offended. Bribery and no police. They're saying bribery is off the table. Bribery means you give somebody money for them not to go to the police. Now, I don't know if that's legally what bribery means to me. Bribery means you're paying somebody to not do something. I don't know that the police element is required in order to make it bribery. He says there was no bribery with the guy. He paid him because he didn't want him to release it. He was just trying to protect himself from some bad press. Never once did the thought of the Police even enter his head. Well, that's interesting because when he was trying to manipulate and coerce Cassie back to the hotel, he said, the police are going to get me. Come back. The police are here. You got to get your story straight. Mark Agnifolo. There's a break again. Like I've said many times on this podcast, a lot of times, jury decisions come down to times of the signs of the time. The government feels questionable as hell right now in lots of ways. Crazy talk. I still haven't heard him say anything to defend this man. No wonder they didn't put anyone on the stands. They also prosecution ring Comey also insinuated that arson, bribery, gun owning is not what they're charging him for. In fact, it's been made a lot of all over the Internet that they dropped all of these charges and that they don't feel they can prove things. And now they've done. They've dropped half the charges on him and everyone in the Internet is reporting it wrong. And in an uproar. No, they just simplified everything. They took a lot of the intent out and the alleged out and they just kept it simple. And by the way, he's not being charged specifically on arson, bribery, or owning guns. Those are all key elements of racketeering. There's a lot of them. He's being charged on rico, not those specific crimes. Mark Agniphilo is breaking down those specific areas because he feels they were weaker in them and he feels that he could just do a lot of word salad in order to confuse the jury and that it would, it would likely work because when they go to RICO and then they start seeing those words that Mark Agnipolo brought brought into the closing, they would start getting confused. My, my. If I were on that jury, I would be offended. Next he gets into forced labor. Mia, love, Diddy. The sex was consensual. Now this one I can't argue, and I didn't really didn't lock on to me during the testimony. But he said, why would he tell her, threaten her that he was going to tell Cassie if she didn't do what he wanted? Why would he go and tell Cassie he raped her? That actually kind of made sense to me. He was never going to go tell Cassie he raped this woman and why would she think he would? So I don't know that that proves it was consensual, but it does prove that that line of thinking is a little off for me a little bit. He said that, oh, he brings out a book at this point and says, look what Mia made for Diddy. She went into the archive, she got all of the besties through all the years. She was so happy and proud of everything that she accomplished with. She loved him so much. She made him this whole big beautiful book, Mia's a liar. So he used this scrapbook to suggest that she lied. They said no one on Diddy's team has taken the stand and said they knowingly committed a crime. Well that's interesting. I don't know that something isn't a crime just because you didn't know it was. I think if I google that right now, you still go to prison if you commit a crime even if you didn't know it was one in most cases. But Cassie does in her testimony start to say I, I didn't. I realized that it was, what we were doing was criminal. At like at one point she started to say that during her testimony and they immediately objected. But it seems like in test Cassie's testimony at certain point she started realizing like these things are criminal that we're doing calling these prostitutes, buying their tickets. Why is he having me always do it? She didn't know then or at certain, at a certain point she started realizing that these things were criminal. At the beginning she didn't understand which, why he was having her do all of it. So I don't even know that that's the case. But I also don't think it matters. He said, and this is potentially a stronger line that he had. He didn't have many so I guess we could give it to him. He said so. So the prosecution wants you to think that some of these freak offs were consensual and some of them weren't. How did he supposed to know which one was and wasn't? Was 55 consensual but 42 wasn't. Was 25 all good but 66 that? 66 one? Nope, nope. That's literally how ignorantly he said it to the jury. And that could work a little. You know, it's, it's ignorant as fuck, but it could work on somebody that wants to lean in his favor. There were hundreds and hundred thousands of these fucking things. How's did he supposed to know which ones were and weren't? Well, you could probably just go back and see if the girl said I don't want to do this or if the girl was vomiting in the toilet and sick as a dog and poor, probably overdosing and vomiting it out. And then, and then when you looked at her and said good, get it all out so you could take another dick. That one probably wasn't consensual, my man. That one right there, I don't know if it was 42, 66, 22, or 89, but that's the one. Prosecution said there only needed to be one, and we've proved there were more than one. But their way of combating that as well. Which one was it? 52, 65, 88 or 29? Okay. He said Cassie's rape was a lie. The dates moved around. She was diddy. The husband, her now husband facetimed her and saw it. That's not how the story went and that's not how the timeline went. But somehow he grabbed all three of those stories and bundled them all together and had had. It sounded really confusing. How I remember it going was she had had consensual sex after the point that she had gotten raped, but that rape occurred. That was not when the husband FaceTimed, but somehow he kind of jumbled it all up into something that felt confusing. So they could be confused about the rape. He said in regards to Jane Doe, Diddy was the best thing that ever happened to her. Her baby daddy got her a horrible lawyer, was taking advantage of her. Diddy came along and did the right thing. You know, Diddy loved that because her baby daddy's his biggest hater. And, you know, he loved to take a dig at him. Their freak offs weren't freak offs. They were homemade porn. He still helps her to this day. That's what a good guy he is. Jane Doe hit him, took his head and slammed it into the counter. She was abusive, he said. She was documenting the injuries, obviously documenting the injuries. And he's probably right about that. Basically, Agniphilo ends and they're targeting Puff. You can't trust the government. They're targeting him for his fame, wealth, power. And they rested Comey's piss. They go to lunch. He tells the judge, fuck this. They, you need to scratch it from the record now. Like I said, Mark Agnifolo wanted to wait till Monday. The judge decided on now. He told the jury to strike it, but again, like we always say, the jury can. Here it struck from the record all you want. You heard what you heard. So they come back up. This time Maureen's doing the redirect. Maybe she wasn't supposed to, but she stands up, she puts her hair behind her ears, and she looks like she's had it and she's ready. So she comes in and she says, and by the way, there's A lot of talk about the jury's not really resonating with her from people inside the courtroom. I think that she's one of the best lawyers they have on that side and I personally think that she's been very effective and I thought she would be the best person in this moment to take this home. So I'm glad it was her.

[Host 2]

How could a beautiful young first grade teacher be stabbed 20 times, including in the bat, allegedly die of suicide? Yes, that was the medical examiner's official ruling. After a closed door meeting, he first named it a homicide.

[Host 1]

Why?

[Host 2]

What happened to Ellen Greenberg? A huge American miscarriage of justice. For an in depth look at the facts, see what happened to Ellen on Amazon. All proceeds to the national center for Missing and Exploited Children. Jan Marsalek was a model of German corporate success. It seemed so damn simple for him. Also, it turned out a fraudster. Where does the money come from? That was something that I always was questioning myself. But what if I told you that was the least interesting thing about him? His secret office was less than 500 meters down the road. I often ask myself now, did I know the true Jan at all? Certain things in my life since then have gone terribly wrong.

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I don't know if they followed me to my home.

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It looks like the ingredients of a really grand spy story because this ties together the cold war with the new one. Listen to Hot Money, agent of chaos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts from. Iheart Podcasts. Before social media, before the Internet, before cable news, there was Alan Berg. You dig what I do.

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You have a need.

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Unfortunately, you have no sense of humor.

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That's why you can't ever enjoy this show and that's why you're a loser.

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He was the first and the original shock jock. That scratchy, irreverent kind of way of talking to people.

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You're as dumb as the rest. That's.

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I can't take anyone. I don't agree with you all the time.

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I don't want you to. I. I hope that you pick me apart.

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His voice changed media. His death shocked the nation. And it makes me so angry that he got himself killed because he had a big mouth. KOA morning talk show host Alan Berg reportedly was shot and killed tonight in downtown Denver. Pointed to the Denver phone book and said, well, There are probably 2 million suspects. This guy aggravated everybody. From iheart podcasts, this is Livewire. The loud life and shocking murder of Alan Berg. Listen. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Maybe you've heard that Stonewall was a riot where queer people fought back against police, or that it's the reason pride is celebrated this time of year.

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It was one of the most liberating things that I have ever done.

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But did you know that before it went down in history, the Stonewall was a queer hangout run by the mafia.

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The voguing at Stonewall was unbelievable.

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In the summer of 1969, it became the site that set off the modern movement for LGBTQ rights. Started banging on the door of the Stonewall like one. Boom, boom, boo. Legend says Marsha P. Johnson, a mother in the fight for trans rights, threw the very first brick. She was really, like, scrubbed out of that history. This week on Afterlives, we'll separate the truth from the myth in the life of Marsha P. Johnson. Listen to afterlives on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A murder happens. The case goes cold. Then, over 100 years later, we take a second look. Paul I'm Paul Holz, a retired cold case investigator. And I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, a journalist and historian. On our podcast Buried Bones, we reexamine historical true crime cases. Using modern forensic techniques, we dig into what the original investigators may have missed. Growing up on a farm, when I heard a gunshot, I did not immediately think murder. Unless this person went out to shoot squirrels, they're not choosing a.22 to go hunting out there. These cases may be old, but the questions are still relevant and often chilling. I know this chauffeur is not of concern.

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You know, it's like, well, he's the.

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Last one who saw her alive, so how did they eliminate him? Join us as we take you back to the cold cases that haunt us to this day. New episodes every Wednesday on the exactly Right network. Listen to Buried bones on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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On. Redirect. She says with puff, no was never an option. It was never an option. They have proof that he flew them out on his credit card. They have proof he was paying for these. He was paying these sex workers. What do you think that they were doing there? What is it that they were doing there? If he's never had sex with a prostitute, he would never be with an escort or watch escorts have sex or do anything like that. Then why did he fly them out on his credit card? And why did he pay them for each night they were there? What was that? So stop it with the. He would never participate in sex with escorts or do anything with escorts or prostitutes. Stop it. No one needs to call themselves an escort. That's not mandatory. Stop it. You know what they were. You know what you were paying for. You know who you flew out. Stop it. They also had made comments about like, where were all the witnesses? Where were all the escorts? Why didn't you call all these people to the stand if they exist? And Maureen Comey clears up. There were uncalled witnesses on both sides. Both sides were available to call people. Sir, you called nobody, so stop it. Then she had a little funny line in there. She said something to the extent of, like, what did he do? All of this paying the escorts and having them out there. Do you think that escorts wanted to come into a room willingly and watch a masked masturbating celebrity? Do you think that these escorts just wanted to sit there and watch a massive celebrity masturbating? You think they just for free, for funsies? No, they were paid and they were paid for the sex work that they did. And then she said, you're right about Diddy being a man that likes to use his fists. He doesn't need the guns. Remember Agniphilo said, why would he need a gun? He just got his fists. Well, she said, you're right, he does use his fists for women. For women. That's when he use his fists. That's when he does the Hollywood rumble, the Hollywood fist fight. He pulls the knuckles out for the women. He can't show up for men with his fist. She said, so you're right, he is a hitter. And then they said basically the same thing I said in regards to there's plenty of evidence that he's the one behind the car. All signs point back to him. He wrote back. Cassie even said, he's going to go, he's going to blow up Kid Cudi's car. He just said it. She put it in writing at that time. Of course he didn't make the Molotov cocktail. Of course you wouldn't find his DNA on it. It doesn't really matter. There's plenty of other evidence that he was involved and instructed. The car situation with Cudi. KK lived in the house. She had access to all of his phones. She was the one that was calming everyone down, creating all of the. She was problem solving. She was the fixer. She made the payments for bribery. She's the one that went and visited Eddie. She's the one that gave him the money. KK alone makes. Diddy guilty on count one. KK alone. Agnipolo brings up a lot about the drugs. Oh, yeah, there. Oh, what was he smuggling? He was smuggling. Where's the smuggling? Where's this? Where's that? Where's all the things that take? Racketeering. She said, hey, Agniphilo, you missed one thing. Distribution. That's a big part, Enrico, of drug trafficking. Distribution. Distribution is when he told all the girls, take this pill. When Jane Doe was vomiting, she couldn't perform. She couldn't do it anymore. Go ahead and take this pill. How many times did we hear somebody testify to him saying, come take this pill. Is it. Am I coercing you? This pill right here. He told everybody to take the pill. He told the assistants, take the pill. He told the escorts, take the pill. He was just doing the distribution with everybody around him. He was making sure that everybody was involved in the drugs distribution is definitely there. So the trafficking of drugs charge in the RICO overall charge is definitely there. He literally told Jane Doe when she didn't want to do the freak off after being beaten all night, take this pill and go suck that dick. In regards to the girls, well, Maureen Comey said. So all these girls wanted to do it, huh? They were just. They couldn't wait to get their day in a freak off. Yeah, that's. That's what we're going with. Well, did the girls love it when they had flaming UTIs? For women listening, if y' all have ever had a uti, you know, it's probably the worst pain there is. I've not had a child, so I don't know that kind of pain. But a UTI is like your eyes are burning and you can't fucking breathe until you get an antibiotic. It's a horrible thing to have. Did they want to continue on in days of satisfying Diddy's sexual behaviors with a uti? Did they want to do it raw? Did they want to do it with sores everywhere? Did they want to do it while they were bleeding?

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While.

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While they were choking. Choking on piss? Are you really trying to tell the jury that that's what all the women that testified wanted every time? Stop it. That's a fucking mic drop right there, period. And she also said, do you think that these women would come up here and all commit perjury because that's what you're accusing them of doing. Cassie, he says she was in it for the money. Well, Cassie already got her 30 million before she took the stand. She was good to go. She didn't have to get up there and embarrass, tell embarrassing details about her entire experience to the world for multiple days on the stand. A week before she gave birth, she already had her 30 mil. She was straight MIA. What does MIA get from this? There. You don't get an Academy Award. You don't get any accolades from the industry. You probably don't get hired again if you're anywhere near this case. So Mia gets nothing from this Jane Doe. Where's her lawsuit? Where's her money grab? Diddy's actually still paying for her attorneys for her home. So if she does damage to him and he goes to prison, she's down bad because she ain't gonna have rent. So what? Where does she benefit in any of this? Is what Maureen Comey says. She also says these last few things that are, I think, the strongest to take home, which is jealousy. Tells us nothing about sex trafficking. Talk about all their jealousy of each other all you want. It just doesn't have anything to do with sex trafficking. No was never an option. No was never an option. Let's remember that. No was never an option with Diddy. Manipulation goes hand in hand with the sex. Violence goes hand in hand with the sex. You all saw the sex, you saw the videos and the pictures. Manipulation, force, violence, all of it goes hand in hand with the sex. Why you say? Because it was always about what Diddy wants. It was always his needs being met. And now Jane Doe makes sense to me as they put it all together because her testimony was difficult. But at the end of the day, she established the same pattern that Cassie did. The same pattern that the escorts did. The same pattern that any of Diddy's employees had established. Having to set up everything that he did. No matter which girl he was running through, they all had to do the same things. The same costumes, the same baby oil, the same Astro Glide, the same inflatables, the same hooker heels, the same everything. It was always what Diddy wanted. It was always to fulfill his desires. They were expected to stay on script at all times. How you feeling? Horny daddy. How do you want it? I want it extra freaky this time. Every girl switches it up when you're in a 10 year relationship. Couple few in a few years of a relationship, you don't want the same thing every single time. Nobody really does. Yet they all did the same thing every time. They all did what Diddy wanted every single time. The drugs got harder, but Diddy got what he wanted every single time. It was always what he wanted. And when you didn't do what he wanted. There were consequences. He would be in a bad mood. He would create consequences. I'm not paying for your house anymore. You don't get to have a career anymore. I'm. I'll go on to another girl and fuck you. I'll leave you with nothing. We would see other patterns if these girls were mostly willing or always willing and always having fun and always enjoying. You would see patterns of other things. You would see patterns of things that they wanted and that they enjoyed. These were all Diddy's fantasies. No was never an option in Diddy's world. And as someone that worked for him and as an insider, Maureen Comey is absolutely 100% correct. No was never an option with Diddy. Diddy knew what he was doing. He's a billionaire, she says. He's not a dummy. He knows what he was doing. He knows what's criminal and he knows what's not. That's why he was having all the girls do most of the work. And that's why he was having all of his co conspirators running around doing most of the work. Sex trafficking is about getting someone to say yes through illegal means. Force, fraud, coercion. One time is all you need. And there's been way more than one time that has been established during this trial. That's where we're at so far and we shall see y' all. Love you. See you later. Lowe's knows that no matter your paint project, saving is at the top of your list. That's why when you shop today, you can buy one, get one free. Select Valspar and HG TV Home by Sherwin Williams. One coat coverage Interior paints via rebate. Shop these deals in store or online. Today at Lowe's, we help you save rebate and form a Visa gift card equal to 100% off the second eligible item purchased before or after applicable discounts.

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If any see details offer N79 from iHeart podcast. Before social media, before cable news, there was Alan Byrd.

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He was the first and the original shock, shock.

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That scratchy, irreverent kind of way of talking to people and telling them that you're an idiot and I'm going to hang up on you. This is Live Wire, the loud life and shocking murder of Alan Berg. And he pointed to the Denver phone book and said, well, there are probably 2 million suspects. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, maybe you've heard that Stonewall was a riot where queer people fought back against police or that it's the reason pride is celebrated this time of year.

[Host 1]

It was one of the most liberating things that I have ever done.

[Host 2]

Legend says Marsha P. Johnson threw the very first brick. Started banging on the door of the Stonewall like one. Boom. This week on afterlives, we'll separate the truth from the myth in the life of Marsha P. Johnson. Listen to afterlives on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. How could a beautiful young first grade teacher be stabbed 20 times, including in the bat, allegedly die of suicide? Yes, that was the medical examiner's official ruling. After a closed door meeting, he first named it a homicide.

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Why?

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What happened to Ellen Greenberg? A huge American miscarriage of justice. For an in depth look at the facts, see what happened to Ellen on Amazon. All proceeds to the national center for Missing and Exploited Children. Did it occur to you that he charmed you in any way? Yes, it did. But he was a charming man. It looks like the ingredients of a really grand spy story. Because this ties together the Cold War with the new one. I often ask myself now, did I know the true Yan at all? Listen to Hot Money, agent of chaos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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This is an iHeart podcast.