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Amy Robot
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DJ Holmes
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Amy Robot
Or I'm not that generous.
DJ Holmes
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Amy Robot
People do not follow my example.
DJ Holmes
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Amy Robot
I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her.
DJ Holmes
Wait a minute Sophia, how do you know she's a cult leader?
Amy Robot
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DJ Holmes
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Amy Robot
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DJ Holmes
Hey there folks. It is Wednesday, October 29th, and we just a short time ago saw a huge press conference. French officials lined up congratulating each other over the Louvre heist. Arrests have been made and the big question everybody has is, what robes? Where are the jewels? And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ and Robes. If they're coming out congratulating each other and telling us about the arrests and giving us details, surely you wouldn't come out and say congratulations without telling us where the jewels are.
Amy Robot
Well, these are, or at least they are, surrounding the same folks who told us that there were no security failures at the Louvre. So just take that all into perspective. But yes, you came running back from the front room because you saw that this press conference.
DJ Holmes
Oh my God.
Amy Robot
And you said ropes. Oh my God. We're going to get all of these amazing details from this press conference. I can't wait to hear it. You turn the volume up. And honestly, at one point we started laughing. That's actually an honest response to what we were watching and what, more importantly, we were hearing or not hearing. Congratulations. Naming off all these folks. Congratulations. Okay, so waiting for the headline. Waiting for the headline. Waiting for the headline never came.
DJ Holmes
And look, we robes here in this country, and certainly us covering news for a long time, are used to these press conferences where oftentimes we're like, just give us the information. But instead they have to stand there, they have to introduce this Person from this county agency, so and so on here, from the sheriff's office, someone here representing the governor's office that all these things. Introductions. Yes, she did a bunch of introductions at the top. Well, long line of people sitting there. A bunch of. She commended. She named people, she named the number of people have been working 24 hours.
Amy Robot
She went on. It was like a long drum roll.
DJ Holmes
I'm like this, wait for it. Got to be it. And the it. I suppose. What would you say that it was? What was the highlight?
Amy Robot
The highlight?
DJ Holmes
The headline.
Amy Robot
The headline was that they still don't have two of the four thieves. They aren't naming the two thieves that they have. They don't know where the jewels are. And they were trying to appeal to the common sense of the thieves to just go ahead, give the jewelry back.
DJ Holmes
Okay. And you actually got more headlines out of it than I was able to come up with. But yes folks, we, we did. And I, it's true story. I was thinking this was going to be the big breaking news because you would not put on a show like they were putting on if you didn't have more to say. But what they essentially did, Rose, was confirm what was already leaked and reported by other outlets. So what they did do though, they did confirm two arrests. Two men in their 30s, one was at Charles de Gaulle last Saturday trying to fly out of the country. He had a one way ticket going to Algeria. Another guy they arrested in his neighborhood. They said he had no plans, no travel and he was actually caught at the home and in the neighborhood where he grew up. So those were some of the new details that they gave us. One of the men been living in France in 2010, another one, and this got attention and you thought, wait a minute, what's going on? Because they reported that he's was working as an illegal taxi driver there for some time in France. And when you first read it somewhere else, it just said taxi driver. And like, wait a minute, don't you have to get clearances? This guy has a criminal history.
Amy Robot
Yeah. I was like, how could a taxi driver have actually a violent criminal history? So I was concerned about that. But these were known dudes, I guess within the criminal system. But it's pretty fascinating. They did explain how they were able to find these men. They actually recovered DNA from a scooter used in the heist and a window at the Louvre. Like trace amounts of DNA, they said. And because these guys had committed crimes before, their DNA was in the system and they knew who to go after. They knew who to go and try and hunt down and arrest.
DJ Holmes
And they say they are still hunting down, too. Now, they say they have been able to confirm through their video surveillance, they believe only four people were involved. They also say that they have no indication that anybody inside the museum was involved. So this was not an inside job. They do not believe. I thought it was interesting. Robe. She's appealing. It was kind of a appeal to anybody who might be holding on to these for safekeeping, who might be interested in selling these for their. Or, excuse me, buying them for their private collection or buying the stones that have already been chopped up. She tried to, I guess, appeal to your common sense, not necessarily your humanity, but essentially saying, what's the point, folks? You can't do anything with this stuff.
Amy Robot
Yes. She said the jewels are now, of course, unsellable, so anyone who buys them would be guilty of concealment of stolen goods. So then she said, there's still time to give them back. So I don't know how effective that plea is going to be, but that was what they at least tried to take this opportunity with the cameras rolling.
DJ Holmes
Can you do that?
Amy Robot
Appeal to the criminals?
DJ Holmes
Is it like a newborn? You. You leave it at the fire station, no questions asked? Can you really walk back in here and say, hey, here, you, jewels all good?
Amy Robot
I doubt it. I doubt that very much so. But, yes, they're saying that these jewels, anyone who is a. An actual jeweler or anyone who knows what they're buying would recognize that this is not. These are, you know, these are diamonds from. What the. What is that, the 15th century? I don't even know how far back they go, but certainly they probably got something that sets them apart from all others.
DJ Holmes
I wasn't helping you out on the date because I didn't know you. I wasn't trying to leave you hanging.
Amy Robot
But, yeah, so that was her plea to the folks who still have them. These two other men who they are looking for. We also found out that they stole this cherry picker.
DJ Holmes
Yeah, apparently it was a. I've never heard of a cherry picker jacking, but it was apparently what happened. They jacked somebody from this thing a few days before the actual robbery. So those were new details we got. And also they. They made the point again. The guys did bring in disc cutters to rob the place. And she said, even though these things can look intimidating, we have no indication that they ever used them in a threatening way.
Amy Robot
Yep. All right. And then they also did acknowledge, because earlier, as I joked on the top of this episode, that French authorities almost immediately were oddly quick to defend the security that the system did not break down. The system worked as it should, which was such a strange thing to say when four men unarmed, were able to steal more than $100 million worth of really truly priceless jewels in eight minutes and get away. So that was kind of a strange statement. Well, in the press conference today, we heard them acknowledge that the Louvre's authorization to operate its own security cameras expired in July and wasn't renewed. There was some sort of paperwork lapse. And so they weren't able to operate their own security cameras at the Louvre, probably the most renowned museum in the world.
DJ Holmes
Yes, that's fact.
Amy Robot
That is insane to think about.
DJ Holmes
Where are these two guys? Like, and where is this stuff? Look, that is the question, right? They're up there congratulating each other, and this was the day. So the question is, where are those jewels? Now, Roshi gave some. She tried to tap dance a little bit and said, I don't want to say too much. And she made clear, I mean, clear indications that she believed she could say something that could spook the other guys or in some way compromise their investigation. Obviously, those guys know how hot they are right now. Are they gonna be able to get out of the country? Where are those jewels? I'm fascinated. Is somebody just walking around with a duffel bag with the stuff in it?
Amy Robot
And I'm curious if they know who they're looking for. How much of these other two men actually given them in terms of information? Do they have more DNA? Do they tying the other two men to this crime? Because weren't the reports that only two of them went up on the cherry picker and went through the window? So that's where the other two stayed below. So who knows if their DNA is on anything and if they even know who they're looking for? It didn't. It is strange. So in the middle of all these congratulations, they also admitted that while the police officers arrived extremely fast after the theft, they said that there was a lag in response earlier in the chain as the events unfolded. So from the first detection to the museum security to the emergency line to then police. So they're admitting now that they messed up or at least lost some very crucial moments in the early part of this heist. So again, it just was such a bizarre press conference to hear them all, or at least hear the lead spokeswoman pat everyone on the back and then go through all the. All of the failures that happened. And again, the headline, we still don't know where the jewels are.
DJ Holmes
Don't want to take away from the fact, you know, they're working around the clock. Of course, you know there are a lot of good people over there, good investigators who are working their butts off to get this done. So can't take that away. It just. We are not used to. Maybe they do it differently quite frankly over there. But a congratulations mid investigation and especially when it's I guess the. I guess. Do you think France would be okay to get the jewels back and never catch the thieves? Right.
Amy Robot
Hard to say. I mean the French do things very differently.
DJ Holmes
But I wonder if for you as a countryman of the United States, I don't know what our crown jewels are but if you right. How would the French feel about that? Just give us our jewels back and I really don't care if that's the trade off. They get away with it and we get our jewels. Fine.
Amy Robot
Yeah, I'm sure if they could find a way they would because here's the problem we talked about how much money is missing in terms of the value of these very priceless. Obviously historic. There's historic value and emotional value to these items as well.
DJ Holmes
But 102 million. $102 million.
Amy Robot
And with this heist there was another massive blind spot or issue that perhaps they weren't really focused on that now they are very aware of.
DJ Holmes
All I know is what I've been told and that's a half truth is a whole lie.
Amy Robot
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DJ Holmes
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Amy Robot
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DJ Holmes
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Amy Robot
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DJ Holmes
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Amy Robot
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DJ Holmes
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Amy Robot
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DJ Holmes
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DJ Holmes
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Amy Robot
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DJ Holmes
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Amy Robot
Continuing now, our conversation on this massive Louvre heist. We had a big, seemingly impressive, important press conference this afternoon talking about what officials have been able to accomplish in these 10 days since the jewels were stolen. And certainly an update on the jewels themselves. Well, it turns out there are two men behind bars. And actually, this was interesting. And right now, with what they're being charged with, this is shocking given the. The weight of the story, the value of what was stolen, the fact that they still don't have these jewels back, and the fact that the world is watching. How much time behind bars are these men facing if convicted?
DJ Holmes
Oh, they say 15 years.
Amy Robot
What? Up to 15 years?
DJ Holmes
Up to 15 years. I mean, maybe it doesn't matter if they stole something that was worth $5,000 or if it was worth 102 million. I wonder if it's categorized. All the same, it doesn't does it matter if the value goes up and your prison sentence goes up? I don't know. But these guys didn't use a weapon in the commissioning of this crime. Nobody was threatened, nobody was harmed. They broke a window and they broke a little glass. Got some valuable stuff.
Amy Robot
Yeah, but they, yeah, they, they stole $102 million worth of historic, priceless crown jewels. I mean, it is insane. I was thinking, because they weren't armed, that maybe that's why. But certainly you would think the value of what they stole and the fact that it hasn't been recovered would play into what their potential punishment is. But yes, they are telling us they're each facing up to 15 years behind bars. That was shocking. Another shocking development in all of this. The Louvre basically had to admit that, whoopsie, the jewels were not insured. And that is shocking to a lot of people.
DJ Holmes
I guess. But you shouldn't have to insure the most important things in your collection. These are the French crown jewels. We don't need private insurance to insure them because that's essentially us saying we don't trust ourselves to protect these precious items.
Amy Robot
Right.
DJ Holmes
That's on you, France.
Amy Robot
So, so that's what the French state says it self insures its national museums, because can you imagine, they say the premiums for covering priceless heritage are astronomically high, obviously, so there. It's not worth it to them. However, could they have ever anticipated this? You would obviously say it might have been worth it to pay.
DJ Holmes
Well, we say that now, but still, I would never. It's like Donald Trump needing private insurance for something he keeps in the White House. It's protected, it's not going to go missing. I wouldn't think to insure things that are in a fortified spot like that.
Amy Robot
That does make sense.
DJ Holmes
It's just that France didn't fortify the Louvre. They forgot to dress up that window a little bit, apparently.
Amy Robot
But it is interesting to see how the French handle things. The fact that their security cameras didn't bother to keep those operating. Yeah, you know, we just didn't want to insure anything. The premiums, have you seen what those are like these days? And then the congratulatory tone that we did nothing wrong. And another interesting point, the Louvre's director tried to hand in her resignation, saying, look, this happened on my watch, I'm out. They refused the resignation. And so so far, there have been no punishments or no one has suffered any sort of consequence for the lapses that clearly were there. And certainly there were some people who let things slip through the cracks. However, so far, no one seems to be pointing the finger at anybody. Maybe we could all take a lesson from the French here in this country, where that's all we seem to know how to do, is point the finger at other people. Before we even try to find the jewels, we'd be saying who needed to pay the price for letting it happen in the first place.
DJ Holmes
These things happen.
Amy Robot
C' est la vie, right?
DJ Holmes
These things happen. C' est la vie. All right, folks, well, we will keep an eye on this one, but apparently those jewels are still out there. Keep an eye out for them. Also, two dudes. No descriptions, no nothing. They've given us where they're looking, who they might be looking for, but it's two more dudes running around out there somewhere blinged up.
Amy Robot
It's a French mystery.
DJ Holmes
Yes, folks, we'll follow it from the States, but for now, always appreciate you listening to us. I'm DJ Holmes alongside my partner, Amy Robot. We'll talk to y' all soon. Hello, America's sweetheart. Johnny Knoxville here. I want to tell you about my new true crime podcast, Crimeless Hillbilly Heist from Smartless Media, Campside Media and big money Players. It's a wild tale about a gang of high functioning nitwits who somehow pulled off America's third largest cash heist. Kind of like Robin Hood, except for the part where he steals from the.
Amy Robot
Rich and gives to the poor. Poor. I'm not that generous.
DJ Holmes
It's a damn near inspiring true story for anyone out there who's ever shot for the moon, then just totally muffed up the landing. They stole $17 million and had not bought a ticket to help him escape. So we're sitting like, oh God, what do we do? What do we do? That was dumb.
Amy Robot
People, do not follow my example.
DJ Holmes
Listen to Crimeless Hillbilly Heist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Amy Robot
I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her.
DJ Holmes
Wait a minute, Sophia. How do you know she's a cult leader?
Amy Robot
Well, Dakota, luckily it's I'm not afraid of a scary story week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my neighbor has been blasting music every day and doing dirt rituals and now my ceiling is collapsing. I tried to report them, but things keep getting weirder. I think they might be part of a cult. Hold up. A real life cult? And what is a dirt ritual? No clue. Dakota, find out how it ends. Listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
DJ Holmes
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.
Amy Robot
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Amy Robot
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DJ Holmes
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Amy Robot
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DJ Holmes
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Amy Robot
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Podcast: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present
Episode: The Louvre Heist Mystery Deepens: Where are the Missing Jewels?
Date: October 29, 2025
Hosts: Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes
In this episode, Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes dive into the latest developments in the sensational Louvre jewel heist. Following an official press conference by French authorities, the hosts dissect what little new information was revealed, examine the ongoing mystery of the missing crown jewels, and critique the French response to the crisis. The discussion is lively, sometimes incredulous, highlighting outstanding questions, new investigative details, and the cultural differences in handling national calamities.
If you missed this episode, you’ll learn:
The saga of the Louvre heist is ongoing, with the world watching as French authorities scramble to recover some of history’s most precious stolen jewels. Amy and T.J. promise to track the story as it develops, ever hopeful for real answers.