The Menendez Brothers: Parole Will Be Granted or Denied TODAY

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Menendez Brothers: Parole Will Be Granted or Denied TODAY

Podcast: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present
Host: T.J. Holmes (with Amy Robach reporting from Boulder, Colorado)
Publisher: iHeartPodcasts
Episode Air Date: August 21, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode is dedicated to the highly anticipated parole hearing for Eric Menendez, one of the infamous Menendez brothers, convicted in 1996 (with his brother Lyle) for the brutal murders of their parents in Beverly Hills in 1989. Host TJ Holmes provides a live update and analysis on the proceedings, the parole process in California, the legal background, and the cultural significance of the case as the country awaits a decision that could end over three decades of incarceration. The episode covers the steps leading up to the parole hearings, obstacles faced, and possible political implications—particularly given the high-profile nature of the case and California’s gubernatorial involvement.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Status and Process of the Parole Hearing

[03:23-06:00]

• As of this recording, Eric Menendez’s parole hearing is currently in progress.
• The hearing is taking place via video conference from the Menendez brothers’ San Diego prison; no in-person courtroom session.
• Lyle Menendez’s parole hearing is scheduled for the following day.
• Only a single pool reporter (likely from the LA Times) is present; there is no real-time public access or media coverage, nor immediate updates allowed to prevent outside influence.

Quote:

“We do not know what has happened in the first few hours of that parole hearing because they aren’t allowed to disseminate that information just yet while the thing is still going on. That makes sense. They don’t want some misinformation to get out, they don’t want any influence possibly on the process.”
— TJ Holmes [06:00]

2. Background of the Menendez Case

[06:15-08:30]

• Eric and Lyle Menendez, at ages 18 and 21, murdered their parents on August 20, 1989.
• The crime shocked the nation; original sentences were life without parole.
• Multiple trials: initial separate trials ended in mistrials; joint retrial led to their conviction and life sentences in 1996.

Quote:

“They were 18 and 21 at the time, but they killed their parents. They admit they killed their parent in an awful, awful crime back in 1989.”
— TJ Holmes [06:55]

3. Momentum for Parole and Legal Developments

[08:35-10:30]

• Recent efforts for resentencing, based in part on new evidence and focus on their youth and reports of parental abuse.
• In May, their sentences were reduced to 50 years to life, making them eligible for parole due to a California law for offenders under age 26 at the time of their crime.
• The District Attorney who advocated for their resentencing was voted out; the new DA opposes release, arguing the brothers have not shown sufficient rehabilitation.

Quote:

“The new guy ain’t trying to let the Menendez brothers out…he has said they have not demonstrated full insight into their crimes or shown that they have been fully rehabilitated, and therefore they continue to pose a risk to society.”
— TJ Holmes [10:10]

4. Details and Stakes of the Hearings

[10:30-13:10]

• The brothers are being assessed separately and could receive different decisions, though this is not expected in practice.
• Even if paroled, release would take months due to an extensive review process.
• Lyle’s fate will be decided in a separate hearing the next day.

Quote:

“In theory, one of them could be granted parole and the other not granted parole. In theory, however, that is not good practice. Even their lawyer Garagos said, yes, it can in theory happen, but that would just be in bad faith.”
— TJ Holmes [12:00]

5. Explaining the Parole Review Process in California

[18:32-20:00]

• Parole board only issues a recommendation.
• Next steps: General Counsel review (up to 120 days), then the decision goes to Governor Gavin Newsom, who has another 30 days.
• Governor Newsom’s possible presidential ambitions could influence his decision, as pardoning the Menendez brothers would be political dynamite.

Quote:

“It could end up being a total of five months. Even if he was paroled today, it could be a while before he ever walks out of prison.”
— TJ Holmes [19:10]

“Ultimately, it's all Gavin Newsom who gets to make this decision. The parole board only recommends…they can only recommend and then it goes to other people's hands.”
— TJ Holmes [20:33]

6. Political Context and Public Fascination

[20:00-22:30]

• Potential political ramifications for Newsom, with increased scrutiny due to national political ambitions and expectations to be “tough on crime.”
• The Menendez case’s legacy is discussed as one of the most sensationalized and debated true crime stories.

Quote:

“This is a guy who has been making major headlines and getting some positive press for his exchanges with President Trump…You would like to think politics doesn't play a role, but that's just something else that's out there that people are keeping an eye on.”
— TJ Holmes [19:55, 20:15]

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• Explanation of media blackout:

  “We do not know what has happened in the first few hours of that parole hearing…they aren’t allowed to disseminate that information just yet.”
  [06:00] — TJ Holmes

• Recap of the crime and public effect:

  “They killed their parents back in 1989. They were tried separately, if you remember, at first, but those ended in a mistrial. They came back and tried them together, and they were both convicted, sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.”
  [07:15] — TJ Holmes

• Details on the law that triggered parole eligibility:

  “There is a law in California that allows for young offenders…if you have 50 years to life, this made them immediately eligible for parole. So that's what happened…as soon as that happened, that means they were eligible for parole.”
  [09:10] — TJ Holmes

• On DA opposition:

  “He has said they have not demonstrated full insight into their crimes or shown that they have been fully rehabilitated, and therefore they continue to pose a risk.”
  [10:10] — TJ Holmes

• On process if parole is granted:

  “If they say today that they believe he should be paroled…get this—it might still be another five months before he actually walks out of prison.”
  [12:50] — TJ Holmes

• On Governor’s role:

  “Ultimately, it's all Gavin Newsom who gets to make this decision. The parole board only recommends.”
  [20:33] — TJ Holmes

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:23 | Beginning of Menendez parole proceedings update | | 06:00 | Discussion of absent live coverage and media restrictions | | 07:15 | Summary of the Menendez crime and trial history | | 09:10 | Explanation of the resentencing and parole law | | 10:10 | Opposition from the new District Attorney | | 12:00 | Explanation of separate hearings and possible outcomes | | 13:22 | Note on wait time for release even if parole is granted | | 18:32 | Detailed outline of California’s parole review process | | 20:33 | Governor Newsom’s pivotal role and political context | | 22:30 | Ending remarks—next update promised if decision is released |

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Closing Remarks

[22:30]
TJ Holmes concludes by reiterating the historic significance and captivating nature of the Menendez case. He promises to jump back on air with immediate updates as soon as any word is released from the closed-door process.

“We are keeping an eye, folks, a very close eye. And there is a fascination with this story that has gone for days, decades. And today is a huge day. One of the biggest, possibly in this storied case that the Menendez brothers could hear word that they are paroled and could be on their way to walking out of prison.”
— TJ Holmes [21:45]

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For Listeners:

This episode offers a concise, real-time primer and analysis of the Menendez brothers’ parole hearings, blending legal background, media access issues, and larger cultural and political implications surrounding the case—while making clear that despite any immediate parole decision, the story is far from over.

Transcript

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Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, August 21st, and we could be hours away, maybe even minutes away. Hell, we could be moments away of finding out if at least one of the Menendez brothers could be getting paroled. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Presents the Menendez Parole Hearing. TJ Holmes here. My partner, Amy Robach is in Boulder, Colorado right now. So I'm holding it down. But this is a very big day. And as we speak, folks, as of this recording, the parole hearing for Eric Menendez is taking place. As I talked to you, it's been going on for what, a couple of hours now? We're expecting to go about three hours. And after that, we are expecting this parole board to give a decision about whether or not they believe Eric Menendez should be let out of prison. It is a remarkable day, a long time coming. A lot of ups and downs and legal hurdles and back and forth of this, which was an absolute phenomenon when it comes to trials and coverage in this country. But here we are, 36 years after those shocking deaths in Beverly Hills, that one of the boys, they were boys 18 and 21 at the time, but one of them could be hearing a word on whether or not he's going to be getting out of prison. Now, do need to explain Eric and Lyle Menendez. Eric, his hearing is today, like I said, going on right now. His brother Lyle is having his parole hearing tomorrow, Same time, about 8:30 California time. As when both of them take place, they are not physically in a courtroom. They are doing all this via video conference. So they are still at their prison in San Diego, but they will sit in a room and they will sit at a computer and they will be, first of all, answering questions. So this let me explain a little bit about the process here and why we're kind of limited in how much we know. So the process calls for this hearing to take place. They have two or three Commissioners in there on the parole board who will be listening. They will ask Eric today, at least anticipated, to ask him about 90 minutes worth of questions. And they are trying to find out what he was like, was he model prisoner. They are going through and asking questions to see if they let a guy out who has admitted to double murder, is he going to remain a risk of any kind to the public. So that's what they're trying to figure out. Now, we, some of you, if you followed us, especially during the Diddy trial, there were no cameras in the courtroom, but there were a ton of reporters in the courtroom and they were giving live updates. So as we were getting those, we were able to update you all here and do podcast updates. But this is different in California and the parole board out there and laws out there. There is no camera in the courtroom, there is no video, there's no audio. In addition to that, there isn't a room where a lot of reporters are given access to this hearing. And you're not allowed to log in, if you will, and check out the video conference. The way they do it out there, they only have one pool reporter that was selected. That pool reporter is in there. I believe they're with the LA Times. But they have to sit and they listen and they take notes, but they are not able to disseminate that information as it's coming. So they can't sit there like we were doing in the Diddy trial. And every time a lawyer says something or there was a major moment or a major response from one of the witnesses, of course, a lot of reporters, they get on, they give the live update. We were getting them in real time. Not the case here. In fact, we don't know what has happened in the first few hours of that parole hearing because they aren't allowed to disseminate that information just yet while the thing is still going on. That makes sense. They don't want some misinformation to get out. They don't want any influence possibly on the process. And that makes sense. But it leaves us at this point just kind of blind to the whole thing. And we do not know what's happening in there. However, we do believe it is expected that there will be a decision today about Eric Menendez. They will decide if Eric Menendez, if they recommend that he be let out of prison. If you do remember Eric and Lyle Menendez, they were 18 and 21 at the time, but they killed their parents. They admit they killed their parent in an awful, awful crime back in 1989. Check this out. It just so happens that this parole board hearing is happening almost 36 years to the day of those brutal killings. It was August 20th of 1989. Here we are, August 21st, when this hearing is taking place. But they killed their parents back in 1989. They were tried separately, if you remember, at first, but those ended in a mistrial. They came back and tried them together, and they were both convicted, sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. So at least back in the, what, 1999? 1990. When were they convicted? In 1996, I think it was when they were eventually finally convicted. They were not supposed to be getting out of prison ever. That's what that means, life in prison without the possibility of parole. There is no possibility of parole. That's where we thought it would remain, and it stayed there for a long time. There were plenty of people who were fighting and who were arguing that these two were young men who, frankly, were abused. They suffered abuse at the hands of their father in particular, and say, hey, they were young. They were kids at the time. They have admitted, they have repented. They have done all these things. And you know what? Now is enough time. They should be let out, the family. In fact, their family members, who are also family members of the people they killed, they are now in Eric and Lyle's camp saying they should get out of prison. So how did we get here? Look, there's been some momentum over the past couple of years. There's been some new information that's come out, some new evidence that's come out to where the DA in LA last year was looking at this case and requested that they be resentenced to 50 years to life in prison. Now, why is that a big deal? That's still a long time. It doesn't mean necessarily going to get out. Right? Well, the reason that's a big deal is by changing the sentence to 50 years to life. There is a law in California that allows for young offenders if you were under the age of 26 when you committed the crime, if you have 50 years to life, this made them immediately eligible for parole. So that's what happened. They ended up having their sentence reduced or changed to 50 years to life. That happened in May, and as soon as that happened, that means they were eligible for parole. And that is why we are here where we are today. However, another issue came up because there was an election for the district attorney out in la, the guy who was pushing to get the Menendez brothers possibly out of prison and who wanted to change their sentence. He got voted out. And so there's a new guy in there. And the new guy ain't trying to let the Menendez brothers out, have prison. He said he, he has said they have not demonstrated full insight into their crimes or shown that they have been fully rehabilitated, and therefore they continue to pose a risk and to society. Those were his words. Now, these two are now 54 and 57 years old. Lyle, the oldest, I believe he's 57. Eric is 54. They were 21 and 18 at the time, but the DA doesn't want them to get out. Now, he is going to put together an argument. He is making the argument that they have told countless lies that they did not acknowledge. And he is saying they are still a risk. They have been deemed a moderate risk, risk to society, a moderate risk to reoffend, but that's the lowest of the risk. There's a high risk and there's a medium. Can't remember what the other one was, but they have been deemed a moderate risk. Now, the parole board, these two or three commissioners, again, we do expect them to make or to let us know today. And quite frankly, it could happen immediately at the end of the hearing. They, I mean, they might go and chat for a second or they might do it on the spot, but we could find out. It's kind of remarkable to think that this crime that captivated the nation, a horrific crime that's been in headlines for really 35 years now, that possibly these two could get out of prison. Now, it sounds odd. Eric is up first today. Lyle is tomorrow. They are being assessed separately, meaning somebody could come to two different decisions about whether or not they should be let out of prison. So, yes, in theory, one of them could be granted parole and the other not granted parole. In theory, however, that is not good practice. Even their lawyer, Garagos, said, yes, it can in theory happen, but that would just be in bad faith. And they don't necessarily expect that to happen. But it's important to note it still could happen. But even if, here's the thing, folks, even if we hear that decision at any, and I'm serious, folks, we are talking any moment. I actually have my computer up just in case it came through. But as soon as it does, your next question is going to be, okay, what do they say today at this moment, that Eric Menendez should be let out of prison. We think he is a good enough, he has done a good enough job and a model citizen. We don't think he is going to be a threat or risk to society. If they say today that they believe he should be paroled, get this it might still be another five months before he actually walks out of prison.

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All right, we wait. We wait for word about Eric Menendez. One of the two Menendez brothers, Eric and Lyle were both convicted, sentenced to initially life in prison without the possibility of parole for those horrific shooting deaths of their parents back in 1989 in Beverly Hills. They were re sentenced to 50 years to life in prison. And because of that new sentence, it means they are now eligible for parole. And that's why we are at this day today. So Eric is up first as we speak, his parole hearing is going on. We do not have access to the court. We do not have access to the video conferences going on. We do have just one pool reporter in there, but not allowed to give the updates and start broadcasting them until the thing is over. So that's why we're kind of blind right now and waiting on an answer. But even if we get the answer today, even if you get an answer today that says, you know what, we believe that Eric Menendez is not a threat. We believe he should be paroled. That would be big news. But it doesn't mean he's getting out of prison, and it also doesn't mean he's getting out of prison anytime soon. And let me explain why the process there. In California, the parole board only makes a recommendation. They are only passing along what they believe. And now oftentimes, the other folks are supposed to go along. But who are the other folks that now have to go along? Well, you got a couple of couple of folks. One is the general counsel that serves California in the parole board has a review process. That person has up to 120 days to do a review. After that review is done, it goes to Governor Gavin Newsom, the California governor. It is then his decision and he has another 30 days to sign off on the parole recommendation. So that is why it could end up being a total of five months. Even if he was paroled today, it could be a while before he ever walks out of prison. The other thing, and some have talked about a little bit here, what if it ends up in Gavin Newsom's hands? What is he going to do? This is a guy, I don't think I'm breaking any news here by saying this is a guy who clearly, by many estimations, has his sights set on the White House. This is a guy who has been making major headlines and getting some positive press for his exchanges with President Trump. He has been the guy right now who is tasked with, oh, this is the guy who could be a tough Democrat. Oh, this is the guy who could fight fire with fire, his phrase, by the way, this is the guy. You've seen Gavin Newsom recently mocking and trolling President Trump and how he does his social media posts. You've seen some of the stuff. What I'm saying is he has increased his profile in a major way over the past couple of years. And now certainly at this point, where it seems like he is set and he is poised for a more national role. So as a part of that national role, any politician is going to have to be, what? Tough on crime. You have to be tough on crime. At some point, he's going to have to answer that question. If he decides to go along with paroling these two, he's going to have to answer that question. Why did you let two people convicted of double murder walk out of prison? When blank was happening, this was happening. The parole boy said this, and they had. They'll be questioned about it. You would like to think politics doesn't play a role, but that's just something else that's out there that people are keeping an eye on. So it's ultimately all Gavin Newsom who gets to make this decision. The parole board only recommends. They can't get him out of prison. They can only recommend, and then it goes to other people's hands. And in particular, finally, Gavin Newsom, something else to note. What if the parole board says, nah, we don't think he's good. We don't think they should be let out. There's too much of a risk. They need to stay in prison. Well, then at that point, they could get another parole hearing. I think have this right in 5 years, 10 years, 15 years. So they would be still there and stuck for a little while longer. But here's the thing also with the power with Gavin Newsom, he can grant clemency anytime he wants to. So that has been something that has been floated around as well, that he could. He could end all this. He could have ended all this. He could have let them out previously. And he has so far at least refused to do that. We are keeping an eye, folks, a very close eye. And there is a fascination with this story that has gone for days, decades. And today is a huge day. One of the biggest, possibly in this storied case that the Menendez brothers could hear war word that they are paroled and could be on their way to walking out of prison. I will jump back on when we get an update and make sure you all have it. But for now, I'm TJ Holmes from our partner, Amy Robot. We will be talking to y' all soon.

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Listen to Hands tied on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[True Crime Commentator]

It was an unimaginable crime.

[True Crime Narrator]

It's four consecutive live terms for Bryan Kohberger, who killed the four University of Idaho students.

[True Crime Commentator]

Nearly 30 months of silence until Bombshell.

[True Crime Narrator]

Development Brian Kohberger has agreed to plead guilty.

[True Crime Commentator]

No trial, no testimony.

[Legal Analyst or Commentator]

The defense are on a sinking ship. This isn't the justice you wanted, but this is justice.

[True Crime Commentator]

Listen to season three of the Idaho Massacre on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get Email your podcasts.

[Liz or Family Member]

I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that.

[Turning River Road Narrator]

Meant for my heart. Podcasts and Rococo Punch this is the Turning River Road. In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse. But in 2014, the youngest escaped. Listen to the Turning river road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Levittown Narrator]

In 2020, a group of young women found themselves in an AI fueled nightmare.

[Podcast Host]

Someone was posting photos.

[Liz or Family Member]

It was just me naked. Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts.

[Levittown Narrator]

This is Levittown, a new podcast from iHeart podcasts Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope about the rise of deepfake pornography and the battle to stop it. Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Host]

This is an iHeart podcast.