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And I'm Maite Gomez Rejuan. And this week on our podcast Hungry for History, we talk oysters. Plus the Miami Chief stops by.
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Hey there folks. It is Friday, November 14th. Yesterday, two executions were planned in the United States. In one, the guy got clemency but still ended up in the hospital. And in the other, the guy was asked if he had any final Words. And he gave only a one word answer. And with that, everybody, welcome to this episode of Amy and tj. Kind of an extraordinary week. Robes when it comes to executions in the extraordinary year, I should say. But even within this year, this was an extraordinary week. And last night. Extraordinary night.
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That's right. We had so many headlines coming out of death row yesterday. Some from Oklahoma and the other from Florida. And what happened. We obviously have. This is. This is, I don't know, episode number three, perhaps we have taken to actually focus some of our attention to Tremaine woods case. But this is an exceptional situation where we had, in an extremely rare move, move the governor commuting his death sentence. One minute. You said you checked all the local reports.
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I couldn't believe it. I mean it's being officially given as one minute before 10:00am local time, which is when he was scheduled to die. The call came in that the governor had commuted his sentence. Look, it's better than coming at 1001, but my God, can you imagine? So that was high. High and really ropes. We talk about the high drama of that even. It was high drama last week, even at his parole board hearing where we watched that whole thing live.
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Yes, everything that happened in his case was exceptionally rare. It was rare for the parole board to recommend clemency and then even rarer for a governor to step in and actually grant clemency. That is almost unheard of. And so with all of that, you would think certainly caused for celebration relief at the very least for Tremaine Wood and his family. So how did Wood then end up in the hospital? We're going to get into all of that. And we also have some incredible details coming out of Florida, which has now executed a record setting 16th inmate this year alone. That is double that state's previous high. Their previous record was 8, which they reached in 1984 and in 2014. So they have now doubled their execution rate. And his story, this inmate story is. Well, when you hear what he was convicted of and what he admitted to doing, this guy was as monstrous as they come. These two scheduled executions, the prisoners involved in them and what they were accused of doing and their role in all of it couldn't have been further one another in a lot of ways. But we'll begin with what happened with Tremaine. I woke up this morning and you said, did you hear what happened to Tremaine Wood?
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I got. I got nervous, to be honest with you. I got a little, my heart jumped a little because of the time we have spent now with his mother, his nieces, people who love him say he is that important to their lives. We know how much they were fighting to get this clemency to think it finally came. And then something happened. So Robes, what I've said with the headlines all said the same thing. Tremaine Wood found unresponsive in his cell. That was the headline. Now, after you and I went through kind of an emotional morning or even week with the family, you could argue and hearing all this thinking a minute before he got clemency, wow, what a relief. And he'd go, oh, no. My first thought was, oh, no.
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Yeah, the stress of it all. Like, you know, we talked about what it must have been like. We talked for him and for his family, but none of us could have possibly imagined. So, yes, Wood was taken to the hospital. So he. Basically, what we've gotten from the Department of Corrections is that after he, With a minute to spare, his death sentence was commuted to a life and parole sentence. He met with his attorney for hours. That's what we were told. And then he went down to go take a nap, basically, after all of that. And he said when he laid down to sleep, the next thing he remembered was waking up in the infirmary with his head busted and his lip busted.
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I mean, it sounds a certain way. It sounds like he passed out and fell off the bed and maybe got busted up. Now they came out and said. And he said as well, at least according to the statement that he gave them. There's nobody else in the cell. You certainly. It's prison. All things can happen. And it just so happened that on this day, he ends up injured and in the hospital. It sounds suspicious, but it appeared. And they did say that it was caused. You said it several times. You use the word stress. And I can believe they say, yeah, dehydration and stress caused this medical event. And I don't know what. He hadn't eaten anything at least since the night before. I don't know what fluids they were giving him during the day before he was about to be executed. So he was in tough shape.
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Can you. I was just trying to get my head around the fact that you said the last time he had eaten. The last time he had eaten was his final meal that he had to request months earlier. He's literally sitting down, eating what he believes in that moment to be the final things he will ever eat. So, yeah, he was hungry, he was dehydrated, he was stressed. And so he. It is interesting. His head and his lip were busted, so it did seem suspicious but they believe he, the other alternative would be if no one was in his room, that he did it to himself. But they don't believe that. They believe this literally was the result of passing out and falling off his bunk.
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I mean do you, we talked about and we saw the stress on his, his relatives faces and just their bodies and just their, their weak and just not sleeping and all these things. So imagine how it feels for him. Imagine how it felt with him the night before. Right? You just said eating your final meal and then going to bed that night and then waking up the next morning. Like all of this is if he even slept. But then you go, it's 9:00 o' clock in the morning, your execution is at 10. Now it's 9:15, now it's 9:30, it's 9:45, it's 9:50, it's 9:55.
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Still haven't heard from the governor.
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He gets to 9:55. I guess that's it. Can you imagine what that feels like? And then get to call and say actually you're good.
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And the relief, the absolute pendulum swing of being at the worst possible stress level you could imagine. Anybody. It's one thing to know you're going to die and to know the hour you're going to die, to know the minute you're going to die. How many people even know what that stress is like and then to have it all be, hey, never mind, you can live out the rest of your days behind bars.
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He got to 959.
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He was probably at stress level as high as they get.
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Cannot imagine.
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So yes. What does that do to your body when you then swing in completely the other direction? And so when he finally was discharged from the hospital we were very happy to report that he was finally able to talk to his family and a spiritual advisor according to the Department of Corrections. And by the way, he is only the sixth condemned person to receive clemency in the state of Oklahoma in modern history. That just tells you how rare it was what happened yesterday. We're going to head to Florida now. And Brian Jennings a much different story. He died by lethal injection last night at 6:20pm Eastern time. He is the 42nd inmate put to death this year in the United States. That's a number that hasn't been seen since 2012. But this was not a man who, I didn't hear one person fighting to save his life or anyone who said because of his crime that he should somehow his execution be state. I never saw one article. In fact I saw Folks who are primarily anti death penalty actually saying this is one I don't mind seeing dying.
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That's. You could only make this argument, I suppose if you're anti death penalty, you. There are no one advocating out there for him. He's been a good prisoner or he. Any questions about the crime? It was not that and I hate. And we know we'll have to speak on a little bit, but it's just the crime is so horrific that it's, it's hard to even repeat what this guy was convicted of.
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When I was reading and anyone who's read the case of this specific case. Brian Jennings is the person who was put to death. But his crime was against a six year old girl named Becky Kunash. But this is crazy. He was 66 years old, a former Marine. He admitted to this horrific crime, but it happened. TJ in 1979, 46 years after he committed this horrific crime, he was executed yesterday. He outlived Becky's father. He outlived both state attorneys who prosecuted him. He outlived three judges who presided over his case. And I say three judges because this was a case that went on and on and on and literally tortured the family.
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Oh, and this is one the folks ask about. Like what is Florida doing? And DeSantis said, yeah, some of these things have been on the books for 30 years. We, we need to, we need to give justice. We need to see this through. We need finality for these families. That's an argument he's making. So it's. People will wonder why we just saw this. Such an uptick. Part of it was a mindset like a Desantis. But also drugs are available. There were a lot of places that stopped doing executions because they didn't have the proper drugs or methods to do so. So here we are. It all come together this year and then. But 79, that was. That's pretty incredible to think he just now faces the punishment he was given for a crime 40 years ago.
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It's one of the longest periods of time I've ever seen anyone serve on death row. He was convicted and sentenced to death in 1980. So a year the crime was committed and then in 1982 as well. But both of those convictions were overturned on appeal. So then he was again found guilty and sentenced to death. In 1986, that convent conviction finally stuck. But this is, this crime is horrific. And I want to get into what happened yesterday. First, this execution. This is rare. We don't hear this very often. According to the Department of Corrections, the Execution took place without incident. There were no complications.
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Yes. We don't hear that often. We don't. Now. I didn't see who was possibly there or anything with him or what audience, if you will, or witnesses I should say were there. I don't. Did you see that he had family or anybody there?
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I didn't, I just, I just saw that. The local reporter said that when asked if he had any last words seconds before the lethal injection, Jennings reportedly shouted no, loudly. So that's, that was the only color I got in terms of who was there and what happened. We also were told his last meal was a cheeseburger, French fries and a soda.
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And it's done. It's. It's kind of. This was a look we take seriously. Anytime you have a state sanctioned death, right, this is no small thing to take a life. It's a part of our system, but it's. I don't know, it's tough anytime to just say we're better off or to celebrate the death of someone. Other people will see it that way. It's not necessarily a celebration of a death, but don't mind or advocating for this person being gone now, it's, it's tough. It's a debate we have. But this is a guy and that crime is not one that anybody's defending.
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Yes, and we're going to get into some of the details of the crime. And also this is a guy. Despite admitting committing this horrific act, he tried very hard to stay alive. Nine appeals and was fighting until the end to not actually walk into that execution chamber which happened last night. We'll get into the details of this case and the ripple effects of a murder, especially on this family, more than 40 years ago.
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For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
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I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.
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I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or.
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They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her.
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America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
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And on our podcast Hungry for History, we mix two of our favorite things. Food and history.
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You know the shade is always shadiest right here. Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryant and Robyn Dixon is here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac. We're giving you all the laughs, drama, and reality news you can handle. And you know, we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday, I was going through a walk in my neighborhood. Out of the blue, I see this huge sign next to somebody's house. Okay, the sign says, my neighbor is a Karen. No way. I died laughing. I'm like, I have to know. You are lying. Humongous, y'.
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Continuing our conversation of what was pretty much a hell of a day on death row yesterday in South Carolina. Excuse me, that's this evening. But in Oklahoma, Tremaine Wood was actually allowed to have his death sentence commuted to a life sentence. But he ended up in the hospital with all the stress and pressure of yesterday, which is unimaginable. Literally waiting for the governor until the minute before his scheduled execution to learn that, in fact, he was going to be able to remain alive and stay in prison for the rest of his life. But in Florida, a man who has been known as a monster. After 46 years after the original crime was committed, Brian Jennings was killed in the state of Florida. Number 16 this year for the state of Florida. But his crime, as we mentioned, happened 46 years ago. And it was a heinous one. This little girl, six year old Becky, this was a detail that really got me. Ironically, the thing that made this little girl feel safe at night is what led to her death. Her night light. Her father said that she always wanted to sleep with a nightlight. And Jennings told police that is what attracted him to her window. He was 20 years old. He was staying with his mom while on leave. He was a marine and a local high school dropout. And he was awaiting his next set of orders. He said he went out drinking and he just ended up outside 6 year old Becky Knash's bedroom window. And that is when he went in. He took her and he took her to a nearby canal and he did terrible things to her, eventually killing her. And then the next day he confessed to the crime, saying, quote, he always had this thing to look into windows. Isn't that so frightening as a parent to think what you're doing to comfort your child actually led to her death? It's unimaginable.
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We all do the best you can do, and sometimes there are scary people out there and monsters, and this sometimes is nothing you can do but your best. There's no way. We, we don't need to stop using night lights. We don't need to. There's another family somewhere sleeping tonight with the doors open and the windows up and with no problem, right? And somebody else is going to go to bed tonight and punch in the code on the alarm and somebody's going to break in and terrorize them tonight. You just do the best you can. And yes, it's got to be gutting and always was for that family. But this just, the random randomness of this is so scary. We talk. It makes me think about those Idaho students. Those four Idaho students didn't know. This killer comes in and kills him. Just the randomness of somebody who just decides to do you harm is the most terrifying part of a story like this.
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It's so true. And can you imagine having lived through that nightmare of her, his. Sorry. Becky's mother came in the next morning, eight hours later, after she had been taken to see that she was gone. The window was open, the curtains were fluttering in the wind. I mean, just to think, where is my little girl? And then to have to go through three trials, not one, not two, but three trials, reliving that nightmare of their daughter being taken and tortured and murdered over and over again. And it's not surprising that their marriage did not survive it. I was reading some quotes from earlier reports from her mom, Patricia, and she said, he took my baby, my husband, my family, and my home. This isn't just about the murder of. It was so much more than that and just so devastating. Her dad said, I've killed him a million times in my sleep. I was just imagining being those parents and sitting in that trial and sitting in the same room as the man who killed my child.
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I mean, I don't know what the family feels. Today finale, Is it over? Is it done? Is it. I don't know. I'm sure there's some peace. They had to find way before this.
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Yes. And we mentioned her father, Robert died at the age of 52. He had always sworn he was gonna be at the execution. He was gonna watch this man who baby die. That did not come to fruition because of the lengthy amount of time it took for justice to be served in this case. We do know that her mother and she had a older sister did not attend the execution and they've really laid low since then. They moved back to Cleveland where they were originally from, and just tried to live as quiet and as peaceful of a life as possible. But certainly it's just a reminder of just the ripple effects and the devastation from violent crimes like this. This. It's not just one family, it's an entire community. And there are lessons to be learned through all of it. But we always appreciate you listening to us. We thank you for your time today. I'm Amy Robach alongside T.J. holmes. We will talk to you soon.
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A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old and a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago.
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Date: November 14, 2025
Hosts: Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes
In this gripping episode, Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes recount a dramatic and emotional week on death row in America. The episode centers on two extraordinary cases: one in Oklahoma, where Tremaine Wood received an extremely rare last-minute commutation of his death sentence, only to be found unresponsive in his cell hours later; and another in Florida, where Brian Jennings, a child murderer, was executed by lethal injection 46 years after his crime. The hosts juxtapose the chaos and relief of a commuted execution with the finality and horror attached to a delayed, but ultimately carried out, state-sanctioned death.
[02:38 – 10:50]
Unprecedented Drama: Tremaine Wood’s execution in Oklahoma was halted just one minute before it was scheduled, as the governor granted him clemency—an exceedingly rare outcome in the state's history.
Emotional Toll: The immense pressure on Wood, who believed until the last minute that he was going to die, led to his collapse hours later. He was found unresponsive in his cell and hospitalized for dehydration and stress.
Historical Context: Wood is only the sixth condemned person in modern Oklahoma history to receive clemency, emphasizing just how unusual this event was.
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A Chilling Crime and Justice Delayed:
Execution Details:
Systemic Issues Highlighted:
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On the stress of awaiting execution:
On the rarity of clemency:
On the horror of the Brian Jennings case:
On the ripple effects of violent acts:
The hosts maintain a somber, respectful, and sometimes reflective tone, acknowledging the extraordinary emotional toll for families, the condemned, and the broader community. They grapple openly with the complexities of capital punishment and the far-reaching consequences of violent crime.
| Segment | Topic | Timestamps | |-----------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------| | Opening Drama | Two death row cases, headline recap | 02:38–03:44 | | Tremaine Wood Case | Last-minute clemency, collapse, family impact | 03:44–10:50 | | Brian Jennings Execution | Crime details, execution, family and community trauma | 10:50–25:15 | | Ripple Effects of Violence | Long-term consequences for victims' families | 21:16–25:15 | | Closing Reflections | Impact, ongoing debates around justice and capital punishment | 25:08–end |
If you missed the episode:
You’ll come away with a deep understanding of the rare drama of last-minute clemency, the staggering emotional toll on those affected by capital punishment, and the indelible, tragic impact of violent crime on entire communities. The stories of Tremaine Wood and Brian Jennings—one given an unexpected chance at life, the other executed for an unforgivable crime decades after it occurred—offer an intense meditation on justice, trauma, and the human condition.