WHAT?! Finding Nancy Guthrie Could Take Years, Sheriff Now Says

Summary

---

Podcast Summary – Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present

Episode: "WHAT?! Finding Nancy Guthrie Could Take Years, Sheriff Now Says"
Date: February 15, 2026
Hosts: Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes

---

Overview

This episode focuses on the unsettling update in the disappearance of 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie, who has now been missing for two weeks. The central theme is the surprising—and somewhat disheartening—statement by Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos that finding Guthrie "could take years," despite initial messaging that the search was urgent. Robach and Holmes discuss the implications of the sheriff's candor, review the main facts and developments in the case, and reflect on what this means for both the family and public interest in the search.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Sheriff’s Shocking Statement: The Search Could Take Years ([03:04]–[06:46])

• T.J. Holmes opens the episode highlighting the sheriff's shift in tone:
  • "After at first telling us how urgent the search was, the sheriff is now saying it could take years to crack this case... I found [this] odd, surprising and disturbing." — [03:04]
• Amy Robach expresses confusion and concern over the sheriff's comment:
  • "To make a public statement like that doesn't seem helpful... It's just a head scratcher for me." — [03:39]
• The hosts speculate if the sheriff is being honest about having no leads, or simply trying to temper public expectations.

Context Behind the Sheriff’s Words ([04:44]–[08:50])

• Holmes shares the sheriff’s full quote from his New York Times interview:
  • "[Sheriff Nanos] said... 'Maybe it's an hour from now, maybe it's weeks or months or years from now, but we won't quit. We're going to find Nancy, we're going to find this guy.'" — [05:29]
• Robach points out previous urgency: every official comment had described the search as "urgent," yet now there’s an admission it might be a long investigation.
• The hosts discuss the emotional whiplash for the family and public, and analyze what this says about the state of the search.

DNA Developments and Investigation Process ([09:04]–[13:47])

• The investigation has yielded some DNA in Guthrie's home that does not match Nancy, family, or close friends, opening new investigative directions ([05:29], [19:04]).
• Police detained an individual (a DoorDash driver) based on video footage showing a masked suspect, but he was released after questioning due to a lack of evidence ([06:46]–[07:23]).
• Holmes underscores the sheriff's honesty, relating his frustration:
  • "He spoke on experiencing [the investigative ups and downs] and called them exhausting..." — [06:46]

The Strain on Law Enforcement ([07:52]–[10:08])

• Robach notes the sheriff’s lack of national media training:

  • "He's probably just being himself... He’s not media trained, so to speak; he's not a politician. So in a way it's refreshing. But we're maybe even a little taken aback." — [07:52]

• They consider the immense pressures on the department, highlighting that under such scrutiny, every public statement is dissected for meaning.

Theories, Motive, and Public Confusion ([11:26]–[13:47])

• Both hosts voice their bewilderment at Guthrie’s complete disappearance:
  • "How do you disappear? ...and we still find them. How is this possible to just abscond with an 84-year-old sickly lady who is not mobile?" — Holmes [11:51]
  • Theories discussed include kidnapping, ransom, and foul play—nothing seems to fit the facts cleanly.
  • "If you wanted to kill her, you would have killed her there, right? If you want to take her, it has to be for money." — Holmes [12:55]
  • "Why would someone want to do this? ...if you can't figure out the why, it's pretty hard to find the who." — Robach [12:15]

Police Efforts, Public Tips, and DNA Technology ([18:18]–[21:59])

• 32,000 tips have been submitted; the department has 400 investigators sorting through them ([18:37]–[19:04]).
• $100,000 reward is now offered for information leading to Nancy’s recovery or the perpetrator’s arrest ([22:16]).
• Discussion about police using genealogy sites to try and match DNA, referencing success stories from other true crime cases:
  • "They were actually talking about taking DNA and putting it into one of these 23andMe types of databases and finding relatives..." — Robach [19:04]

Challenges of Maintaining Attention & Credible Leads ([22:40]–[24:20])

• Multiple "ransom" notes and claims (including one sent to TMZ demanding Bitcoin) have so far not been credible ([23:13]).
• Robach expresses the importance of keeping the story in the public eye so hope and pressure on authorities doesn’t fade:
  • "The biggest fear... for the Guthrie's is that people just stop caring because it just seems so hopeless and it just seems like there's nothing happening." — [23:20]

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Investigation Exhaustion:
  "He called the ups and downs of the case exhausting." — Holmes [06:46]
• On the role of motive in the investigation:
  "The motive is never necessary when you're at a criminal trial... but it's the thing that a jury wants to hear... if you can't figure out the why, it's pretty hard to find the who." — Robach [12:15]
• On police transparency:
  "He’s not media trained, so in a way, it's refreshing. But... maybe even a little taken aback at how honest he's being in moments." — Robach [07:52]
• On public and investigative frustration:
  "They talk like they have nothing. And I'm blown away. The DNA part... they found who was in there and robes even when they figured out, I don't know, left over from a pizza delivery guy..." — Holmes [20:39]
• On continued hope for a miracle:
  "The only way this story gets bigger is if somehow this woman is found alive... you have to hold on to that hope." — Holmes [13:47]

---

Important Timestamps

• 03:04–03:39 — Initial reaction to sheriff’s new statement
• 05:29 — Reading sheriff’s full quote from NYT
• 06:46 — "Exhausting" nature of case; failed detainment of DoorDash driver
• 11:51–12:15 — Hosts’ disbelief at how Nancy remains missing
• 19:04–20:29 — DNA developments and the expansion of search through genealogy databases
• 22:16 — Reward now set at $100,000
• 23:13 — The latest “ransom” note and its dubious credibility
• 23:20 — The risk of public losing interest

---

Tone & Takeaways

The episode is characterized by equal parts empathy, frustration, and bafflement—both at the facts of the case and the sheriff’s unusually frank public statements. Robach and Holmes maintain a compassionate tone toward the Guthrie family, call for continued public attention, and urge listeners to keep hope alive despite a lack of concrete developments.

---

Final Thought

The hosts commit to continuing updates, underscoring just how rare and confounding this disappearance is, and how critical public vigilance and pressure remain as police and family await answers.

Transcript

[Tara Davis Woodhull]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human Busy work weeks can leave you feeling drained. Prolon's five day fasting mimicking diet works at the cellular level to rejuvenate you from the inside out, providing real results that include fat focused, sustainable weight loss with no injection needed. NextGen builds on the original Prolong with 100% organic soups and teas, a richer taste and ready to eat meals. Developed at USC's Longevity Institute and backed by top medical centers, Prolon supports biological age reduction, metabolic health, skin appearance, fat loss and energy. Get 15% off plus a $40 bonus gift when you subscribe at prolonlife.com iheart that's prolonlife.com iheart Support for the show.

[Public Investing Sponsor]

Comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI. It all starts with your prom. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year. You can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors, llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures available at public.com disclosures.

[Sonesta Travel Pass Sponsor]

At.

[Lowe's Sponsor]

Lowe's get up to 35% off select major appliances plus members get free delivery, install and more when you spend $2,500 on select major appliances. Lowe's we help you Save valid through 225 while supplies last. Selection varies by location. Excludes Massachusetts, Maryland, Wisconsin, New Jersey, Florida loyalty program. Subject to terms and conditions. Visit lowe's.com terms for details. Subject to change.

[Public Investing Sponsor]

Visit your nearby Lowe's on Colorado street in Kennewick.

[Bowen Yang]

This is Bowen Yang from Lost Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. We all know the feeling when life gets really busy. Taking care of yourself can feel impossible. That's why Premier Protein Shakes are my go to. They have 30 grams of protein, 160calor calories, no added sugar and they taste amazing. So they're a healthy choice you'll actually want to make. It's not just for fitness, it's for getting after life. Premier Protein empowers me to say yes to more. Find your favorite [e-mail] that's P R E M I E R protein.com.

[TJ Holmes]

Hey there folks. It is Sunday, February 15th and two weeks ago today 84 year old Nancy Guthrie was reported missing. And after at first telling us how urgent the search was, the sheriff is now saying it could take years to crack this case. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. Not a lot of developments necessary, necessarily concrete developments in this case, but this comment I found odd, surprising and disturbing.

[Amy Robach]

What is going on with all of those resources and the intense search that is going on right now and the hope that still remains for the Guthrie family to make a public statement like that doesn't seem helpful. Or, or I'm just confused why he would even go there. Maybe he's trying to temper expectations, maybe he's trying to get reporters off his back saying this could take a while. But that is a bold and just discouraging statement to say the least.

[TJ Holmes]

You said maybe it was this, maybe it was that. Could it also maybe be that he had just an honest moment and they have nothing?

[Amy Robach]

Yes, I guess that is the case. And I don't know, I just. You're not used to seeing investigators tip their hand like that or policed say something like that. Especially when they know there's an expectant family holding their breath, praying every night, wishing and hoping for the best. And maybe privately you could temper their expectations to publicly say that. I don't know. It's just a head scratcher for me.

[TJ Holmes]

So let's put this in the full context of what he said and we'll get we're about to give you the exact quote from Pima County Sheriff Nanos out there who everybody's become familiar with at this point with his case. Bar hasn't been doing well. I don't even know when the last official press briefing was, but he has from time to time come out and done interviews. Certainly keeps the local affiliates there updated. But he hasn't been doing a lot of press. But he did around here over the past couple days after there have been some developments and robes, one of the outlets he did sit down with and give comments to was the New York Times. Not a lot of information in there, necessarily. But robes. This jumped off the screen to me, and it happened to be, I think it was the last line they put in the story.

[Amy Robach]

Wow, that's interesting. That wasn't even their headline, but it's everybody else's. Yes, isn't that funny? So the comment is this. He said to the New York Times, the sheriff, maybe it's an hour from now, maybe it's weeks or months or years from now, but we won't quit. We're going to find Nancy, we're going to find this guy. So it was oddly, in a positive statement that he dropped this little bit of information that, you know, wasn't something that any of us had heard before. As you pointed out at the top of this, every single comment we've heard from the sheriff and from investigators has been that time is not on their side, that this is an urgent search. There is an elderly woman who needs her medication. Family members desperate to find her. And there have been developments. DNA has been found that does not match Nancy Guthrie or any of her family or close friends. So that's a very, you would think, positive development. They have been starting to detain people and question people seemingly getting at least some sort of tip that leads them in a direction, which means there could be others. They have to sift through tens of thousands of tips, and they need the one that actually points them in the right direction.

[TJ Holmes]

And if I thought it was interesting as well, he used the word exhausting, but we've talked about it here. Ropes, you hear, Right after they release that front door camera video, they have a suspect they're looking at, right. He's got a ski mask on with their tips start flooding in after that. And they detained a guy and we were holding our breath, and then there was nothing. And the guy was released. And it happens to be nothing to it. Those ups and downs we're experiencing, he spoke on experience in them as well and called them exhausting, that these ups and downs. And that guy, this was another honest moment. He said, yeah, that doordash guy, the first guy we detained, we thought that was it.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah. He said, this has to be it. The evidence, everything's there. Then you talk to people, you learn, you do your search and you think, maybe not. Yeah. I mean, look, this is. It's interesting. When you have a local sheriff, Pima county sheriff, you probably wouldn't expect that. He has a lot of experience dealing with a case on this level, and certainly not dealing with press at this.

[TJ Holmes]

Level, scrutiny at this level. My God.

[Amy Robach]

Yes, he's he's probably just being himself, being the local sheriff that he's always been. It doesn't always necessarily translate when you have an international story where you have a network news anchor's mother vanish and in such a bizarre, unexplicable way that he really, he's had nothing in his career I would imagine that would have prepared him to put him in the spotlight like this. So perhaps he says things and does things that maybe members of the press and certainly people who are reading these articles are thinking why did he just say that? What did he just say? But you have to take him at his word. He's being honest. He's not putting on, he's not media trained, so to speak, where he knows the slick and smooth non answer to give. He's not a politician. So in, in a way it's refreshing. But we're also maybe even a little taken aback at how honest he's being in moments.

[TJ Holmes]

And look, we, we have to start with just giving him credit for being able to do his job well behind the scenes. You don't have to be that versed in how to handle the press. Some are better than others. But when everybody is hanging on to your every word and desperate for information, every step can potentially be a misstep for this guy. And he is, look, world we haven't gotten into it doesn't necessarily have to. He is getting just ripped online left and right. And I understand a criticism, but who are we to say if he's doing this right or doing this wrong. Even this comment we're talking about might be an honest one. This isn't a criticism from us about what he's saying for robes. It's, it's, it's been two weeks. They said we don't get this woman home in 24 hours, the worst could happen. And to hear him in certain when he first said ropes. Ah, damn. I think about this till now should we have been taking the signs that this statement might have been coming? When was it when he said no further press briefing scheduled. He hasn't had one in a week plus but to tell us this is urgent, we need to find her or she could die. To no more press briefing scheduled. And yeah, this thing could take weeks, months or years to find out. You put piece that together something is happening behind the scenes that is not giving them confidence.

[Amy Robach]

Well and I think they're frustrated. You know, you have all this activity. The press is like three people have been detained. You're seeing white tents go up and they're Analyzing vehicles and they're searching homes. And again, probably not something the sheriff's department is used to doing to look for a missing person like this with the world watching. And so yes, he called the ups and downs of the case exhausting. As you pointed out. This is probably fairly new, a new intensity that he and his team have not experienced before. And yes, we're all waiting and, and hoping and certainly the family is on another level. But the police feel that scrutiny and that intense pressure. And so yeah, they're probably not sleeping much and he certainly is not sleeping much. So he might say things he wishes he hadn't. I can't imagine being Savannah's family and seeing that headline, even if you know in the back of your mind it's possible. Obviously they've had to live leave a certain small amount of space amid all the hope they have that we might not ever find our mom. That's got to be. That's the scary thought in the back of their head that they know is there that they probably have never acknowledged or don't want to acknowledge and certainly not publicly. And now you got a. The sheriff saying it to the New York Times. That's tough to read.

[TJ Holmes]

And it seems impossible Robes that we could not know even in two weeks that we don't know what happened to this lady. We don't know where she is, what condition. It seems completely implausible. All the resources now how do you disappear? There have been people who've put extensive efforts into trying to disappear and we.

[Amy Robach]

Find them and we still find them.

[TJ Holmes]

And when they make tried as hard as they robes, how is this possible to just abscond with an 84 year old sickly lady who is not mobile.

[Amy Robach]

And we have no.

[TJ Holmes]

I don't get this story, baby. This is I. If you want to start throwing in theories about alien abduction, I will listen because that makes just as much sense as some of the theories floating out there. Nothing makes sense.

[Amy Robach]

No, because you look, the motive is never necessary when you're at a criminal trial, when someone's been charged. And yet it's the thing that a jury wants to hear. And it's certainly something that police want to know when they're investigating so that they can have a focus, have a place to know why would someone want to do this? And we've talked about it, obviously it's either money or it's passion was. It was something that this person clearly planned out with what they brought to the home that day. So it had to be premeditated. But the Big glaring question is why? Why? And if you can't figure out the why, it's pretty hard to find the whole Robes.

[TJ Holmes]

It took her on purpose. If you wanted to kill her, you would have killed her there, right?

[Amy Robach]

Yes.

[TJ Holmes]

If you want to take her, it has to be for money. Why are you going to take an 84 year old woman who's sickly? You got to take care of. It's so ransom. Makes sense. But how many notes have we gotten from different TV stations and news outlets and now from somebody who's a rat who says, I know who the kidnapper is, but give me money. This, this story is. Is. Is beyond. Go ahead.

[Amy Robach]

No, I was gonna say. And the other option is. So maybe it started out. We've talked about this. It started out as a kidnapping. Something went wrong. She. She act, she died. Whether he or the suspect intended to or not. Wouldn't you then have to get rid of the body so you can't keep it in your home? Like you can't. Like so. I mean, I guess there were ways, but I just like it's so baffling.

[TJ Holmes]

And you want to leave open. And I said that you've. I said this to you. Where are we? And we're in the car yesterday and we were talking about it and we said, robes, the only way this story gets bigger is if somehow this woman is found alive, that she is found somewhere and Nancy Guthrie's comes out of this okay. You have to hold on to that hope, at least publicly. Robes, with the information we know, we don't have any reason to think otherwise. The family don't know how much different information they have, but tones messaging have changed in the past two weeks of this story. But there have been developments, including DNA that Robes just mentioned. Also new ways to submit tips, and there have been tons of them. Stay here. We'll give you the very latest, including what was an increase in police activity this weekend.

[Hers Weight Loss Sponsor]

It's a new year and time to get back to feeling like yourself. If losing weight is one of your.

[Amy Robach]

20, 26 goals and you're ready to.

[Hers Weight Loss Sponsor]

Make progress you can count on, then weight loss by hers might be the right fit for you. Through hers, you're connected with a medical provider who determines if treatment is right for you. If prescribed, your treatment plan is personalized to support you in reaching your goals. Plus you can access a range of treatment options like oral medication kits or GLP1 injectables. Hers goes beyond medication by offering access to ongoing care dosage and medication adjustments. Lifestyle and nutrition tips and 24. 7 support with no hidden costs or membership fees and with options Starting at just $69 per month with a 10 month plan when paid up front in full, hers provides access to options that fit your goals and your budget. Feel like your best self again? Visit forhers.com amy to get a personalized affordable plan that gets you that's F O R h e r s.com amy fourhers.com Amy Weight loss by hers is not available everywhere. Compounded drug products are not approved or evaluated for safety, effectiveness or quality by the fda. Prescription required. See website for full details, important safety information and restrictions and actual price depends on product and plan purchased.

[Public Investing Sponsor]

Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back backtested against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors, llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures available at public.com disclosures this.

[Bowen Yang]

Is Bowen Yang from Lost Culture Research with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. We all know the feeling when life gets really busy. Taking care of yourself can feel impossible. That's why Premier Protein Shakes are my go to. They have 30 grams of protein, 160 calories, no added sugar and they taste amazing. So they're a healthy choice you'll actually want to make. It's not just for fitness, it's for getting afterlife. Premier Protein powers me to say yes to more. Find your favorite flavor@premierprotein. That's P R E M I E R protein.com hey, this is US Olympic.

[Tara Davis Woodhull]

Gold medalist Tara Davis Woodhull and I'm.

[Hunter Woodhull]

US Paralympic gold medalist Hunter Woodhull.

[Tara Davis Woodhull]

As athletes, our lives are about having.

[Hunter Woodhull]

A clear path and a team that you can absolutely trust.

[Tara Davis Woodhull]

So when it came to getting the.

[Hunter Woodhull]

Best mortgage, we chose PennyMac.

[Tara Davis Woodhull]

PennyMac is proud to be the official.

[Amy Robach]

Mortgage provider of Team USA.

[Hunter Woodhull]

And you learn more at pennymac.com pennymac Loan Service Services, LLC equal housing lender NMLS ID 35953 licensed by the Department of Financial Protection and Innovation under the California Residential Mortgage Lending Act. Conditions and restrictions may apply.

[TJ Holmes]

All right, we continue here on Amy and tj. Two weeks to the day that Nancy Guthrie was reported missing and still no signs of her robes. It's important to. To make the statement. There was some increased police activity. And they made clear after that that no matter what you've been hearing about detainments and whatever else, we got nobody.

[Amy Robach]

No arrests, no suspects, no persons of interest, and 32,000 tips to go chase down.

[TJ Holmes]

And that that video made all the difference. Yeah, and that's a good thing. You want to generate tips. But robes, there's so many now. They said they got 400 investigators going through 32. They have to decide which one this rises to the level. This one looks like we should go after this one first and then track that down and then the next one and the next one. 32,000.

[Amy Robach]

That's overwhelming. I was curious with the DNA that we've talked about because it is fascinating with all of the theories that had been swirling around initially, and everyone always looks, including police, especially at the people who purported to love Nancy Guthrie or know Nancy Guthrie. You're much more likely obviously, to be killed or have some harm come your way by a close friend or family member. But that DNA, at least the DNA that they found in the home, we don't know what form it took, but they were able to rule out family and her close friends. That is of incredible significance. I was curious because they say the DNA didn't hit a match. Obviously, they've got folks who have already been arrested. They've got a basically a database, a database of folks they could link up to. That would have been the most obvious and most the easiest way, I guess, for there to be some sort of a connection. But you were watching. I woke up this morning to you watching True Crime, per usual. And they were actually talking about taking DNA and putting it into one of these 23andMe types of databases and finding relatives and then hunting down the person. Yes, they might not have committed a crime, but they might have had relatives who go on to some of these ancestry websites. And that's a way how you can zero in and find a person at least who this DNA may belong to.

[TJ Holmes]

Surely they're doing that.

[Amy Robach]

I was so. If I woke up thinking about this case because I was listening in my dreamlike state to. To your. To your show.

[TJ Holmes]

They got that guy, by the way.

[Amy Robach]

Oh, they did exactly that.

[TJ Holmes]

To your point, that's exactly how they tracked down a killer. This woman, some genealogist lady just offered her services to a police department. She had to go to them kind of a thing. Look, I'm. We have to assume they're doing this. They're doing absolutely everything but robes. If they're doing absolutely everything, seems like something after two weeks should put them on some path. It's amazing. It's. They. The way they talk to us, babe. They talk like they have nothing. They talk like they have nothing. And I'm blown away. The DNA part. So now we're talking. Apparently other people worked at the home and whatnot, but everybody who was known to go in and out has been eliminated from this DNA. They found who was in there and robes even when they figured out, I don't know, left over from a pizza delivery guy could have been left over. But we don't know if it's blood, what they're talking about. They found.

[Amy Robach]

Yes. So it seems as though if they're. They're actually talking about this DNA they found that wasn't Nancy Guthrie's. You would think it had to be something that was from we. I. I would assume it have to be blood. I mean just because it would all be the only thing that would make sense that that would be of interest if it was. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I guess they're looking at fingerprints. They're looking at everything it could be.

[TJ Holmes]

Who knows what any of this could be they have set up now and how this. Who knows how this is going to go. They set up links. The FBI and the Pima County Sheriff. Click on a link and you could submit any evidence as it says. But any tip that's going to get flooded now. Probably.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah. And you think about it. You got a hundred thousand dollars out there for someone that's. That's not chump change. It started out at 2500, it went up to 50,000 and now it's at a hundred thousand dollars. If you provide the information that leads to the arrest or conviction of the person responsible for taking Nancy Guthrie. That is a hell of a reward. And you would think it would be incredibly incentivizing.

[TJ Holmes]

But whoever this bozo is and maybe it did. The incentive is to get the money and try to insert yourself into a story and try to do a scam. But we as the latest note that we know of that has been received is a second one or no, a third one that came from someone who said sent it to TMZ claiming that they know who the kidnapper is. And now they want the hundred thousand dollars and they want it by sending me one part of it in bitcoin. And I promise I won't cash it in until you catch the kidnapper. And then I want the other half.

[Bowen Yang]

What?

[TJ Holmes]

So that's where we are. That is at this point, Robes. No, they still haven't said that's credible yet.

[Amy Robach]

They haven't? No, they haven't. And I look, there have been almost every day, I think yesterday might have been the exception. There have been interesting, strange out of left field developments that have kept this story in the forefront of a lot of folks minds. It's kept it on the front page of all of our online news sources. And certainly it's something people continue to talk about that's good for the Guthrie's who want people focused, want pressure on police. However, at a certain point when you have the sheriff coming out and talking about it could take years and there really aren't any new developments. The biggest fear that you could possibly imagine for the Guthrie's is that people just stop caring because it just seems so hopeless and it just seems like there's nothing happening. So I, I fear that like at least some of these developments, even if they don't bear fruit, even if they don't get us closer to knowing who the suspect has is at least it keeps the interest alive on the story, which is important.

[TJ Holmes]

You talk about the interest and you're right. I'm trying to remember the last significant like real concrete update, you know, it was the video. But other than that, so many of the updates have been bizarre. Here is another one, the sheriff in charge who just told us two weeks ago we now to find her in 24 hours. Say yeah, this could take years. That's a bizarre story, but still nothing concrete folks. We didn't expect to frankly hop on and give an update on the gut. This has happened several times. We probably won't do a Guthrie update tomorrow. And then we wake up and something happens. We go holy shit. So we just wanted to hop on, give you this update. This is something that you and certainly we are keeping our eyes on. We always appreciate you spending time and trusting us with this story. But always top right corner of your Apple Podcast app where you see our show page. There's a little button there that says Follow Click that you can make sure the updates always come to you. That's your way to subscribe and get the updates there have been aplenty. We will keep an eye on it folks. We always appreciate you spending time with us. I'm TJ Holmes. On behalf of my dear Amy Robach, we'll talk to you soon.

[Bowen Yang]

This is Bowen Yang from Lost Culture Research with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. We all know the feeling when life gets really busy. Taking care of yourself can feel impossible. That's why Premier Protein Shakes are my go to. They have 30 grams of protein 1, no added sugar and they taste amazing. So they're a healthy choice you'll actually want to make. It's not just for fitness, it's for getting after life. Premier Protein powers me to say yes to More Find your favorite [e-mail] that's P R E M I E R protein.com if you're an H Vac technician.

[Grainger Sponsor]

And a call comes in, Grainger knows that you need a partner that helps you find the right product fast and hassle free. And you know that when the first problem of the day is a clanking blower motor, there's no need to break a sweat. With Grainger's easy to use website and product details, you're confident you'll soon have everything humming right along. Call 1-800-GRAINGER clickgrainger.com or just stop by Grainger for the ones who get it done.

[Sonesta Travel Pass Sponsor]

Find home wherever you roam at Sonesta Es and Simply Suites. Stretch out and enjoy home like amenities for however long you need. And when you're a Sonesta Travel Pass member, staying at Sonesta Es and Simply Suites means earning points toward free nights, upgrades and more. Go to sonesta.com to book your stay and unlock their best rates with Sonesta Travel Pass here today, Rome tomorrow. Join [e-mail] Terms and conditions apply.

[Hunter Woodhull]

With volley from iShares, you get access to both monthly income and growth potential in one simple ETF. It's the best of both worlds. Discover Bali iShares Large Cap Premium Income Active ETF iShares the market is yours. Visit www.ishares.com to view perspectives for investment objectives, risks, fees, expenses and other information that you should read and consider carefully before investing. Risks include principal, loss and the use of derivatives, which could increase risks and volatility. Monthly income is not guaranteed prepared by BlackRock Investments, LLC.

[Tara Davis Woodhull]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Amy Robach]

Guaranteed Human.