Woman Who Called Child “N-Word” Charged, Raises More Than $800K

Summary

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Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present

Episode: Woman Who Called Child “N-Word” Charged, Raises More Than $800K

Release Date: August 28, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes tackle the shocking case of Shiloh Hendricks, a white woman in Rochester, Minnesota, who was caught on video repeatedly calling an 8-year-old autistic Black boy the N-word. Despite indisputable evidence and subsequent misdemeanor charges, Hendricks has raised over $800,000 through donations, prompting national outrage and debate over hate speech, accountability, and the unsettling support for flagrant racism in 21st-century America. The hosts dissect the incident, its aftermath, the role of online fundraising, and how this reflects broader societal issues.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Incident Recap and Outrage

• Nature of the Incident:

  • Hendricks called the child a racial slur "repeatedly" after he took an applesauce from her bag in a public park ([03:02]-[05:06]).
  • The event was captured on video by a bystander, who confronted her. Hendricks did not deny the slur—instead, she doubled down and repeated it further when prompted ([05:07]-[06:01]).

• Hosts’ Reaction:

  • Amy: “It is disgusting and should be to anyone who's listening ... to profit off of horrific hate-fueled speech is deplorable.” ([03:42])
  • T.J.: “She is facing charges ... yes, it's a misdemeanor, but she is facing charges for what she did.” ([05:07])

2. Fundraising Aftermath

• Fundraising Platforms:

  • Instead of using mainstream sites like GoFundMe, Hendricks used GiveSendGo, a Christian fundraising site ([07:35]-[07:40]).
  • Her pitch focused on claims of harassment and threats, asking for funds to move and protect her family—a plea that rapidly gained traction ([07:40]-[08:46]).

• Hosts’ Disbelief:

  • T.J.: “I don't know how to stomach an outpouring of support for someone whose action was indefensible ... I'm shocked.” ([09:08]-[09:53])
  • Amy: “To have someone witness that and ... continue, like, defiantly to say it. That is really out there.” ([09:53])

3. Updates and Evolving Narrative

• Hendricks’ Updates:

  • June Update: Hendricks posts that “big things are happening” and thanks donors, encouraging them to “keep fighting for the First Amendment.” ([11:12]-[11:41])
  • After Charges: She boasts of using the donations “to buy my family a home with plenty of land ... with excellent demographics ... we are thriving.” ([21:34]-[22:04])

• Code Language & Racial Undertones:

  • The phrase “excellent demographics” alarms both hosts, reading it as a euphemism for living in a whiter, more segregated area ([22:11]-[24:05]).
  • Amy: “Excellent demographics means only other white people ... this felt scary. Frankly, there's no other way to put it.” ([24:05])

• Unapologetic Attitude:

  • T.J.: “She is defending herself and wanting support for what she did. There's nothing apologetic.” ([12:53])
  • Amy: “She's saying she only called him what he was ... there's no acknowledgment.” ([13:10])

4. First Amendment and Legal Questions

• Misuse of Free Speech Arguments:

  • T.J.: “Is this a First Amendment issue at all? ... does a white person have the right to call me the N word and not face any consequences?” ([19:59]-[20:42])
  • The hosts clarify: local laws do prohibit such abusive language—Hendricks’ fundraising rhetoric misrepresents legal protections ([20:42]-[21:04]).

• Reaction to Legal Proceedings:

  • Hendricks frames the case as an attack by “the liberal state of Minnesota," rallying donors for legal fees and continued support ([25:59]-[27:21]).

5. The Bigger Picture: Social Response & Support

• Disproportionate Support:

  • Despite her behavior, Hendricks’ fundraiser eclipsed efforts to help the victim, including one backed by the NAACP ([28:30]).

• Societal Implications:

  • The hosts examine how anonymity allows donors to support hateful actions without public accountability ([27:29]-[27:58]).
  • T.J.: “She has benefited in life. She has profited. Been able to buy herself a new home because she looked in a camera and ... called a little boy the N word. That's tough to stomach.” ([25:59])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

1. On Disbelief and Outrage

   • Amy: “To profit off of horrific hate-fueled speech is deplorable.” ([03:42])
   • T.J.: “I'm shocked ... to see it and then defiantly repeat it for the camera ... I am confused.” ([10:15])

2. On the Fundraising Pitch

   • Hendricks, quoted by Amy: “We are now in a place with excellent demographics. We are thriving.” ([21:34])

3. On Code Language and its Implications

   • Amy: “Excellent demographics means only other white people ... this felt scary. Frankly, there's no other way to put it.” ([24:05])
   • T.J.: “When people tell you who they are, you should listen ... she doesn’t seem to be shy about telling us who she is.” ([22:15])

4. On First Amendment and Responsibility

   • T.J.: “Do you really want to preserve the right … to call a black child the N word to his face?” ([11:41])

5. On Unapologetic Conduct

   • Amy: “She doesn't think she said anything wrong or did anything wrong. So why would she apologize?” ([13:10])

6. On Support for Racists

   • T.J.: “She has benefited in life ... been able to buy herself a new home because she looked in a camera and she called a little boy the N word. That's tough to stomach.” ([25:59])

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Important Timestamps

• [03:02] – T.J. introduces the story: “She called an 8 year old black boy the N word and they love her for it.”
• [05:07] – Incident recap: The event, the bystander, and the video.
• [07:35] – Discussion of GiveSendGo fundraiser and reading Hendricks’ plea.
• [09:53] – Hosts voice shock at the support for Hendricks.
• [11:12] – Reading Hendricks’ June update.
• [21:34] – Hendricks boasts about buying a home with “excellent demographics” using donation funds.
• [24:05] – Amy and T.J. dissect the implied racial undertones of “excellent demographics.”
• [25:59] – Hosts reflect on the disturbing fact that such behavior has been financially rewarded.
• [28:30] – NAACP fundraiser for the victim raises significantly less than Hendricks’ campaign.

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Tone & Takeaway

Throughout, Amy and T.J. express a mix of disbelief, anger, and genuine sorrow over both the incident and the overwhelming financial support Hendricks has received. They emphasize the clear evidence of racism, the dangers of coded language and online anonymity, and the need for societal reflection. The mood is somber, incredulous, and at times, deeply unsettled by the reality this case reveals about American society.

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Final Thoughts

Amy and T.J. drive home the importance of ongoing efforts to fight for tolerance and respect, concluding:

Amy: “It's important to know these things so that we can keep fighting for tolerance, for love and for respect. And that's what we'll keep fighting for here on this podcast.” ([28:50])

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A stark, necessary conversation about hate, complicity, and the endurance of racism—even when caught red-handed and on camera.

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[TJ Holmes]

Hey there folks. It is Thursday, August 28th. She called an 8 year old black boy the N word and they love her for it. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. This is a story a lot of people will remember. The woman has now been charged. But on its face, without knowing the details, the facts are this, that a woman called an eight year old boy the N word and then she raised over $800,000 from supporters. That sounds disgusting on its face to some.

[Amy Robach]

I think it is disgusting and should be to anyone who's listening. This is a woman. It's not disputed. It's not. She's accused of calling an 8 year old black boy who also has special needs, who is autistic the N word repeatedly and then harassing a man who called her on it all caught on video. So again, indisputable, the fact that she is now being rewarded significantly, raising nearly a million dollars, I mean, that's her goal. And she now has a new round of pleas out there for more donations because of these charges that have just been filed against her. And likely because charges have been filed against her, she will be able to raise more money. So the fact that she's to profit off of horrific hate fueled speech is deplorable. I. There's nothing that's okay about that.

[TJ Holmes]

All right, so we will now explain what we're talking about. A lot of you all will remember this incident because it did spark protests. National African American organizations got involved in this. But this is a woman by the name of Shiloh Hendricks. Shiloh Hendricks in Rochester, Minnesota. But in April and an incident at a playground there and little eight year old boy, black boy with special needs. He's autistic.

[Amy Robach]

Yes.

[TJ Holmes]

And he was wandering around and he grabbed an applesauce pack, I believe, from another family's bag. So he grabbed. Yes, an applesauce pack that wasn't his. His dad chases after him and then this Shiloh Hendricks chases after the kid as well and at that point calls the kid the N word. Now a bystander comes by, sees this going on, starts rolling on the video on his phone and confronts the lady like, did you just call him? Repeat this. Did you just call him the N word? She does not deny it. And then she makes. I guess the most infuriating part of it, besides calling the N word, is that I called him what he was. And all this is on video and none of this is what she denied. But that is the incident we're talking about. But now, Robe, she is facing charges. Yes, it's a misdemeanor, but she is facing charges for what she did.

[Amy Robach]

That's right. And she not only didn't, she not only said, I called him what he was, but then the bystander who is recording her goads her into basically saying the N word repeatedly. Repeatedly. I just wanted to point that out. She then goes on camera and says it to the person filming her and then starts using the N word, just non stop. So it was appalling to say the least. And it's still out there, people. It's bleeped out, thankfully. But if you want to see it for yourself, certainly that is there. So, yes, she is now being charged and she's now using the fact that she's being charged for this greater plea for help.

[TJ Holmes]

Okay, so the charge is misdemeanor, but still it's misdemeanor disorderly conduct, for, as they say, wrongfully unlawfully engaged in offensive, obscene, abusive, boisterous or noisy conduct or in offensive, obscene or abusive language that would reasonably tend to alarm, anger or resentment in others. That's fair.

[Amy Robach]

I feel like that all reads with.

[TJ Holmes]

The language she did now when she did this back in April, like you said, Rose, she's now had a couple of rounds of fundraising. It's almost like politicians when tied to headlines, right? Damn. That's right. So she tied it to headlines. So after the initial one. Now she claims, and I'm sure a lot of stuff did come her way, that she claimed she was getting death threats, she claimed her family was being threatened, she was being threatened and she was being harassed. I wouldn't doubt that necessarily. So she doesn't go to. What's the one? Go fund me.

[Amy Robach]

Right.

[TJ Holmes]

That's what a lot of people do. But this is on Go. Was it called Give Send Go?

[Amy Robach]

It's a. It's a Christian fundraising page similar to GoFundMe. So yeah, she goes on to Give Send Go and she says this. My name is Shiloh and I have been put into a very dire situation. I recently had a kid steal from my 18 month old son's diaper bag at a park. I called the kid out for what he was. There you go. Another man, who we recently found out has a history with law enforcement, proceeded to record me and follow me to my car. He then posted these videos online, which has caused my myself great turmoil. My Social Security number has been leaked. My address and phone number have been given out freely. My family members are being attacked. My eldest child may not be going back to school. Even where I exercise has been exposed. I am asking for your help to assist in protecting my family. I fear that we must relocate. I have two small children who do not deserve this. We have been threatened to the extreme by people online. Anything will help. We cannot and will not live in fear. That was her post.

[TJ Holmes]

That was the initial. And the donations took off, started pouring in, and she raised hundreds of thousands of dollars to the point that, yes, we, as we sit here, we'll give you the final number here in a second because it keeps going up. Literally at right before we came on and record, you pointed out that she had just received a new $5 donation.

[Amy Robach]

Yes.

[TJ Holmes]

So the donations keep updating. But I don't doubt that she got hate coming her way. I don't doubt that she got some ugly, ugly stuff coming her way. And I don't know the seriousness of whatever threat robes. But I don't know how to stomach an outpouring of support for someone whose action was indefensible. I don't want to say that somebody can't be forgiven and. Okay. But an outpouring of support for a woman who is standing up for her right to call a child the N word. I'm. I guess I. Some would say, come on, T.J. you shouldn't be shocked. Why am I shocked?

[Amy Robach]

I'm shocked. I'm shocked. I've never witnessed that in my life. I'm not saying it doesn't go on, but to actually have someone witness that and then to, without much prodding at all, repeat it and know you're being recorded and continue, like, defiantly to say it. That is really out there.

[TJ Holmes]

You actually made it clearer for me and worse for me now show that video to, like, just put it on primetime television and let it loop and let everybody see it. And after you see that, your reaction to it is, man, I want to go online and send her some money and support. Now, when you put it that way, if you watch that video and still in that moment want to reach out to the point of sending her money. I am confused.

[Amy Robach]

I'm confused, too. I don't Know, I don't know how that feels like a good use of your money when there are so many people who need help.

[TJ Holmes]

So she updated us, right? She came back in June, right after the initial post and she raised hundreds of thousands. She came back in June and gave us an update about what was going on. You see that one in the rose?

[Amy Robach]

Yes, I do.

[TJ Holmes]

Okay, so this is what she said in June.

[Amy Robach]

Yep. She said, it's been quite some time since I've given you all an update about my family and myself. We are doing great. Great is in all caps. Big things are happening regarding our future. Life changing events are at play and we have all of you to thank for that. I won't go into specifics, but just know that all is on our end. I will keep you all updated when new events arise. Keep standing up for yourselves and keep fighting for the First Amendment.

[TJ Holmes]

I take issue. What. What are we fighting for? Do you really want to preserve the right? You do have the right. Do you want to fight for the right to call a black child the N word to his face? You're saying, stand with me so we can fight for this right to do what I did. If anybody takes issue with me on that, I don't know what we're doing. What? She's telling everybody to come join me and support me in standing up for my right to do what I did.

[Amy Robach]

She's taken something terrible that she's done and somehow made it a rallying cry for her right to. To do that.

[TJ Holmes]

Is it a racist rallying cry? Is she just pulling the wool over people's eyes? Has she found the right audience? She has almost raised a million dollars. I don't understand calling, using the N word.

[Amy Robach]

And how is that on a Christian fundraising site? I don't. That's also. I don't understand that at all. I'm just as puzzled as you are as to who the people are and who are supporting her and why they're supporting her. That's the other question I have.

[TJ Holmes]

You know me, Robes. I'm always trying to give benefit of the doubt to folks. And I try to even. I can maybe give a benefit of the doubt to someone who got caught up in the heat of a moment and something ugly in them came out. Like she's defending herself and wanting support for what she did. There's nothing apologetic.

[Amy Robach]

No, there's nothing apologetic. Not one. Not an acknowledgement of what she did. In fact, she's saying she only called him what he was. So there you go. Yeah, she doesn't think she said anything wrong or did anything wrong. So why would she apologize that I could get behind if she was apologizing, saying, learn from me, don't ever do this, don't ever be like this. And if that were being rewarded, okay, maybe. But still, this woman maybe made into a millionaire for doing what she did.

[TJ Holmes]

So, yes, there's the update she gave us in June. I believe it was, but she just was now officially charged. She's facing charges for what she did. Yes, it took a while. The prosecutor there said. Yes, that was. It took a while because this is a complex case and it was worth them taking the time that, that they did. So I guess just 24 hours after she found out she was facing charges, she puts up a new update and you thought her other updates were doozies. You gonna love this one.

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[Amy Robach]

Welcome back to this edition of Amy and tj. We are talking about Shiloh Hendricks, the woman who is caught on video acknowledging and then reiterating and then again stating that she called an eight year old autistic black boy the N word. And she defended her right to do so. She said it was because she was just calling it like she saw it. Basically, she was just calling him what he was.

[TJ Holmes]

Is this a First Amendment issue at all? Is it. Are you allowed to actually, I don't know this question. Are you allowed to use. I mean, that is hate speech, isn't. Is it not?

[Amy Robach]

It is. And she was. The whole charge against her is the law states that you cannot be engaged in offensive, obscene, abusive, boisterous, noisy conduct or in offensive, obscene or abusive language that would reasonably tend to alarm, anger or resent. So yes, that would absolutely. And she didn't just do it once or didn't just slip up or didn't just say. She, she defiantly repeated it. Repeated it, Repeated it, repeated it. I mean, that was absolutely intentional. To aggravate, to insult so much of.

[TJ Holmes]

What she has been posting and saying and trying to rally people around is the First Amendment and having a right to say what you want. And that's a curious question for me now that I don't understand. On a local or federal level, does a white person have the right to call me the N word and not face any consequences?

[Amy Robach]

It doesn't appear that you do that. We do. No, no.

[TJ Holmes]

But she's trying to make an argument.

[Amy Robach]

That there are a lot of things you can't say and that is among them. So I don't. Yes, you're right that what she's rallying people around actually does not protect her in any way for the crime she committed. And I say crime she committed. I understand she hasn't been convicted yet, but we have the video. So sorry. We know what she said. So here is her update, because y' all aren't going to believe. She is now taking the fact that she's been charged and now thinking, Cha Ching, it's fundraising.

[TJ Holmes]

It's fundraising campaign.

[Amy Robach]

Now, she also wants to let you know what you've been investing in to date. So she says, hello, friends. In my latest update, I stated that big things were happening regarding our future. And they have. Exclamation point. I have used the donation money to buy my family a home with plenty of land. We are now in a place with excellent demographics. We are thriving. I'm gonna stop right now. Your reaction?

[TJ Holmes]

What? What? What? What? What?

[Amy Robach]

There aren't black people where she lives now?

[TJ Holmes]

What?

[Amy Robach]

That's what my takeaway was.

[TJ Holmes]

They're excellent. They're excellent. The demographics here are excellent. So, look, it don't wanna. You know, I try, babe, I try always to find a way to give somebody the best benefit of the doubt. But sometimes, like they say, when people tell you who they are, you should listen. And she doesn't seem to be shy about telling us who she is. So I'm listening. And. Okay, you do. You. And I have no problem with her doing and living however she wants to live. It is uncomfortable and disturbing to think that this person has found an audience, a pretty massive one, to support what this is, which is blatant racism. Yeah, she's. I mean, she's not being shy. I'm not calling her racist, but she is okay with this. So she's telling us.

[Amy Robach]

Yes. So we are now in a place with excellent demographics, and we are thriving. My children get to live in peace with nature instead of dealing with the chaos that comes with large cities. Their father is teaching them how to be strong men, and we are both teaching them the importance of preserving our existence. That was another one that got me. Preserving our existence. We deserve this. We all do. I actually felt, look, obviously I'm pretty much as white as they get. I felt uncomfortable reading this. This felt scary. Frankly, there's no other way to put it. It actually felt scary that us white people have to preserve our existence better demo. Excellent demographics means only other white people.

[TJ Holmes]

Look, how else do you read it? I mean, I don't know how else to read it.

[Amy Robach]

There's no other way to read it.

[TJ Holmes]

I mean, if somebody could read that and take it totally differently than I am sitting here as a who I am from, where I'm from. I don't know. It's. It's. I don't know. I'm just. I keep trying, always trying to find a way. Find a way to say, well, maybe they meant this or maybe it's this or maybe they've gone through that. I'm trying to be sympathetic, empathetic, and everything I can find in between. It's just. She's telling us she looked into a camera and repeatedly said the N word. She's telling us what she thinks. Okay, so let's listen and take her at her word. And why not? Okay, I don't think it's an insult now to call her a racist.

[Amy Robach]

I mean, that's exactly what she is telling us. She is.

[TJ Holmes]

She's. Yes, she is. This is a tough one for me with this. With this lady.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah. There's nothing.

[TJ Holmes]

I'm trying to find something redeeming or saying, well, maybe this or maybe that. And if anybody is saying, well, T.J. she's right, because maybe he was a this that I can't listen to. Like, what reasonable person can look at that and go, oh, yeah, okay. It's okay.

[Amy Robach]

No, and look, I know you have said this before, but, I mean, I've heard you say you prefer an overt racist to a covert racist, and here you have exhibit A with the overt racist. I think it's just alarming that she's been able to profit off of it to the extent she has. And the fact that she could be, you know, I think it's at $819,000 right now and climbing and climbing. She's bought a big house with plenty of land because of what she said and the fact that she's defending it and is unapologetic about it. People are cheering her on and funding her. And to me, that is the disturbing part.

[TJ Holmes]

Okay, my. Yeah, my discomfort has been misplaced. Yes. Obviously, people like her out there. It's the support she has received to where you can literally say she has benefited in life. She has profited. Been able to buy herself a new home because she looked in a camera and she called a little boy the N word. That's tough. That's tough to stomach. She finished up, like I said, she got charged this week, and so she finished up her latest update here, robes, by saying, with that said, I am sure you all are aware of the. And she put it in, quote, charges that the liberal state of Minnesota is trying to burden me with. I guarantee you that I will not be backing down and I will be fighting back. I have an excellent team on my side who are knowledgeable and trustworthy. I Am confident in our success in the United States. We are protected by the First Amendment and no amount of hurt feelings can change that. This second round of donations will help with legal obligations and the continued protection of my family and the preservation of our new life. I am so grateful for how far we have already come. Keep fighting.

[Amy Robach]

I just threw up in my mouth. So this second round of donations.

[TJ Holmes]

Will.

[Amy Robach]

Help with her legal fight and to keep up the price of owning a large home with a lot of land.

[TJ Holmes]

Wasn't there a time that you, if you got caught saying the N word on you were canceled, recording of any kind, nobody's gonna support you. Nobody's gonna come to your aid and defend that.

[Amy Robach]

Well, people are anonymously able to come to her support and her aid and that's the difference. Right. They can anonymously give her money. They don't have to publicly say that they support someone who is a racist. But. But privately they can. With no one watching, they can. That's the scary part. Right. But yes, publicly she would have to be canceled.

[TJ Holmes]

When is the. She's supposed to be in court?

[Amy Robach]

October.

[TJ Holmes]

In October. At some point. I think it's just a video conference.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah.

[TJ Holmes]

She doesn't have to physically be there, so the case will continue. She says she's going to keep fighting. And to your point, Robes, I think this is more, well, a one off thing here or there with some races, this or that from somebody. No surprise. I think I am surprised and I think I am wondering what that means when someone who is so blatant we don't have to interpret her language. She looked in a camera and repeated it.

[Amy Robach]

Right.

[TJ Holmes]

That that person can so easily build up that much support. And by the way, the NAACP also started a GoFundMe page for the young man. It raised a third or certainly less than half, but maybe a third of what this lady has raised for calling him the N word.

[Amy Robach]

Wow, that's telling. Well, look, you know, it's important to know these things so that we can keep fighting for tolerance, for love and for respect. And that's what we'll keep fighting for here on this podcast. But you know, thank you for listening to us on this Thursday evening. I'm Amy Robach alongside my partner TJ Holmes. Have a great night, everybody.

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[TJ Holmes]

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[Amy Robach]

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[Amy Robach]

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