Listener Stories: Vol. 108 (ft. Amanda from Live, Laugh, Larceny)

Summary

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Podcast Summary: And That's Why We Drink

Listener Stories: Vol. 108 (ft. Amanda from Live, Laugh, Larceny)

Hosts: Em Schulz (C), Special Guest Amanda (B, Live Laugh Larceny)
Date: October 1, 2025

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Overview

This episode of And That’s Why We Drink is a special "Peroween" listener stories edition, featuring Amanda from Live, Laugh, Larceny as co-host. The episode is part of ParaPods’ Halloween "Invasion of the Host Snatchers" event, where hosts swap shows. True to the show's theme, Em and Amanda dive into hilarious, unsettling, and sometimes spooky listener-submitted stories and news headlines, focusing on Halloween pranks, petty crimes, and chilling paranormal encounters. The tone is candid, playful, and at times, gleefully skeptical.

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Episode Structure & Main Segments

1. ParaPods Peroween Introduction & Host Swap (02:01–05:46)
2. Discussion: Halloween Pranks & True Crime Headlines (05:47–11:49)
3. Listener Story: “The Time My Dead Dad Haunted Me for Fun” (11:53–26:37)
4. Supernatural Debate: Do Haunted Objects Move or Teleport? (17:14–29:31)
5. Amanda’s Haunted House Stories (26:42–29:14)
6. True Crime Headline: Karate Master vs. Ghost in a Haunted House (31:27–41:33)
7. Listener Story: Haunted Sorority House (42:27–54:41)
8. True Crime Headline: School Prank Goes Wrong with Chainsaw (54:55–60:51)
9. Listener Story: Slenderman Prank at Theater (61:00–67:46)
10. News Oddity: New Jersey Bushmen Prank (67:55–75:14)
11. Halloween Traditions, Plans, and Outro (76:26–79:53)

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Key Discussion Points, Stories, and Insights

1. ParaPods & Peroween Event (02:01–05:46)

• Em introduces the spooky season and celebrates ParaPods, a new podcast network.
• They reveal the “Invasion of the Host Snatchers” collaboration, where hosts swap partners and bring unique stories to each show.
• Amanda, from Live Laugh Larceny, joins as guest co-host, bringing her own blend of weird true crime headlines.

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2. Hilarious Halloween Pranks – Real and Reported (05:47–11:49)

a. News Headline: "Graphic Halloween Decoration Spurs 911 Call" (05:46–11:49)

• Amanda shares a news story from North Carolina: someone decorated their lawn with a fake body under a running lawnmower, doused in fake blood, prompting an emergency call from a distressed driver.
• Em jokes about it being “dad energy.”

  “This feels like something any dad would at least conjure up in his brain before physically doing it.” (07:32, Em)

• The prank, though harmless in intent, caused real concern in the community.
• Local reaction:

  “It’s something to talk about around town...I think it’s harmless. I think it’s fun Halloween.” (09:59, Amanda quoting Winda Bethia, clerk)

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3. Listener Story: “The Time My Dead Dad Haunted Me for Fun” (11:53–26:37)

• Submitted by Rebecca: After her father’s passing, she grows up in a haunted family home. She and a friend try to communicate with her dad’s spirit during a birthday sleepover.
• At first, nothing happens, but later furniture moves—including a chair found hanging on a nail, and a prized David Bowie poster ends up in the middle of the room.
• The hosts debate what’s spookier: spirits moving objects or teleporting them (18:07–19:26).
• When asked to stop, the ghostly phenomena cease. Rebecca later learns the room they used belonged to her dad, and the Bowie poster was his.
• Touching outcome:

  “Dying definitely didn’t stop him [from pranking us]. I love that. Love that he likes a challenge.” (15:47, Em)

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4. Supernatural & Paranormal Debate

(around 17:14–29:31)

• Do ghosts move objects physically or teleport them? Amanda and Em discuss personal theories.
• Amanda mentions her own haunted house: unexplained voices, moving furniture, and a sleepover where the basement lights dimmed and brightened by themselves.

  “I've never had anything like that happen so far in my life, luckily...but we would come home and like the couch would be shifted.” (26:42, Amanda)

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5. True Crime Headline: Karate Master vs. Ghost—And 13 Years in Court (31:27–41:33)

• News Headline: “Boozed Up Karate Master beats up Worker dressed as a Ghost. Then sues Haunted House and loses.”
• Amanda describes the 13-year legal saga where a drunken karate expert in Japan kicked a costumed worker (thinking it was a “real” ghost), then sued the haunted house for not warning visitors.

• “He claimed the park was responsible…because it failed to train staff to prevent attacks by scared visitors.” (36:59, Amanda)

• Em and Amanda marvel at the absurdity, noting that none of the haunted attractions ever explain that the ghosts aren’t real, and call out the obvious victim-blaming.

• “You can’t punch someone and say it’s their fault for not stopping you!” (38:43, Em)

• Ends with speculation about the defendant’s stubbornness: “He has to have thought at least once, I’m probably gonna lose this case.” (41:17, Em)

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6. Listener Story: Haunted Sorority House (42:27–54:41)

• Submitted by Rebecca (#2): The house is famously haunted by a former house mom, Ms. Elias, but a more mysterious curly-haired girl is spotted.
• After the appearance, multiple sisters report seeing the figure or dreaming about her standing at the foot of their beds.
• A priest is brought in for a blessing; intensity of his prayers matches the “energy” of each room.

  “He would pray softly...and only pray out loud when he felt more tension. So the louder he got, oh, the creepier the room was.” (49:27, Em)

• Creepiness peaks with unexplained grandfather clock sounds in a house with no grandfather clock.
• Rebecca later pranks the house by recreating a ghost sighting, causing mass panic—but admits no one will ever believe her if a real sighting occurs again.

  “You’re the girl that cried ghost at this point.” (53:13, Amanda)

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7. True Crime Headline: “Chainsaw Prank Mishap at School” (54:55–60:51)

• News Headline: A high school teacher asks a student to answer a classroom door; student is met by a costumed individual with a (fake but working) chainsaw. The student trips and fractures a kneecap, leading the family to sue the school.
• Both hosts express disbelief at the thought process behind the prank, highlighting how out-of-bounds and dangerous it was, even before the current climate of school safety concerns.

• “You cannot be a grown man just walking into a school…to scare children with a weapon…This is literally—go time travel to another era.” (56:03, Em)

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8. Listener Story: Slenderman High School Prank (61:00–67:46)

• Submitted by Amelia: Inspired by the internet Slenderman game, she creates chilling “Slenderman” notes with ominous messages and hides them in the theater—costumes, cars, windshields.
• The prank escalates: a locked car is “haunted” with a note, and attempts to burn the notes fail (causing more panic). Eventually she confesses, learning the value of ending a prank on a high note.

• “I’ve now learned to stop while I’m ahead. But it started a love of good-natured pranks…” (66:50, Amelia’s letter)

• Amanda notes the “Phantom of the Opera” backstage-meddling vibes.

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9. True Crime Headline: “Rahway Bushmen Prank” (67:55–75:14)

• News Headline: Teens dress as bushes in a NJ park and say “hi” to passersby—facing possible charges because authorities worry about potential injury lawsuits.
• At first, Em is wary (“primed for true crime” scenarios), but is won over when it’s revealed the prank is harmless.

• “Now I’m on board. I like it. And now I’m mad they were ever threatened with a charge. Like, they’re just saying hello.” (73:07, Em)

• The hosts muse about the practicalities of a bush costume and the deeper human urge, in all pranksters, to make new friends.

  “Where do you find a bush costume?...Maybe this is a rural community—I don’t know.” (73:54, Amanda)

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10. Halloween Traditions & Closing (76:26–79:53)

• Amanda shares her Halloween plans (11th annual party, trick-or-treating with her kids as K-pop demon hunters), and Em recounts their tradition of Universal Studios Horror Nights, this year relocated to Orlando for a family birthday.
• Amanda’s parting words:

  “Thank you for inviting me. I’ll be a snatched host anytime.” (79:49, Amanda)

• Em wraps up, reminding listeners about ParaPods’ ongoing host swaps for Peroween.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (w/ Timestamps)

• On Dad Energy and Halloween Pranks

  “This feels like something any dad would at least conjure up in his brain before physically doing it.” (07:32, Em)

• On Supernatural Furniture

  “On the playroom...the chair hanging off a nail on the closet door. And just like that, it’s a demon. Immediately I go from dad to demon.” (20:20, Em)

• On Haunted Attractions Lawsuits

  “He claimed the park was responsible…because it failed to train staff to prevent attacks by scared visitors.” (36:59, Amanda)

• On Paranormal Experiences

  “We would come home and like the couch would be shifted...there were a couple times...my dad would be like, Amanda are you okay? Because he’d hear...a weird high pitched voice.” (26:42, Amanda)

• On Outdated School Pranks

  “You cannot be a grown man just walking into a school…to scare children with a weapon…This is literally—go time travel to another era.” (56:03, Em)

• On Pranking for Friendship

  “We all just need a friend. That’s what the real life lesson is here.” (70:44, Amanda)

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Tone & Style

The episode is characterized by warm, irreverent banter, plenty of laughter, and a blend of the spooky and silly. Both hosts are quick to poke fun at the petty criminals, pranksters, and supernatural entities at the center of each story—while being mindful of the real-life consequences of escalating pranks and the impact of the genuinely bizarre.

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For New Listeners

This episode offers a great sampler of what And That’s Why We Drink does best: true crime, the paranormal, listener stories, snarky commentary, and moments of heart amid the hilarity. The host swap with Amanda from Live, Laugh, Larceny brings even more comedic storytelling and wild news headlines than usual, making for a memorable Peroween kickoff episode.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[C]

Tis the season.

[B]

It's time.

[A]

You've been waiting. We've been waiting.

[C]

The world's been waiting.

[A]

They just didn't know it. Peroween is here.

[C]

Welcome everybody to a very special Peroean event. For those who don't know, Christine and I have recently started a network called ParaPods. And we wanted to have our very first spooky season by kicking it off right. Eva had this incredible idea that what if we rallied the troops and summoned all of our TR True crime creepy friends and asked if they could do a big collab with us. And so thank you, Eva, for this idea. So parapod presents. We're calling it Peroween and it's the Invasion of the Host Snatchers. So for several episodes coming your way, I think Eva said six episodes. We have all split up with our co hosts and we're kind of clashing into each other's episodes. So as you can tell, Christina's not here today. Too bad. So sad. And instead, we have the lovely Amanda from Live Laugh Larceny. Thank you for joining me for our October Listeners episode.

[B]

Oh, my goodness. Thank you so much for having me. I cannot wait to hear some of these stories. Wow.

[C]

Another shout out to Eva because she is the one who looks through all of the stories. And so I also don't know what we're about to read. I. When we hopped on to Streamyard, Amanda and Eva were already here, and I overheard something about a story about road rage and Taco Bell and that being a story you were unaware of and you got to hear about it live or what happened there. You went to crime.

[B]

Yes. Yes. So, yep, Trevin and I, my. My co host usually, except for today, but we went to CrimeCon in Denver. It was amazing. We had a petty crime confession box at our booth.

[C]

Amazing.

[B]

And, yeah, most of them are going to be a surprise to me. I haven't read them yet, but there was one person who told us what it was. And there was a bit of road rage in the Taco Bell drive through. She ended up throwing a cheesy Gordita wrap something burrito Cheesy Gordita Crunch.

[C]

Please put some respect on its name. Thank you.

[B]

I will put my respect on it. And she threw it at the car in front of her that cut them off. I honestly don't know how that story ends. I just got the Cliff Notes. But we will be reading the petty crime confessions on an upcoming episode, so.

[C]

Okay, good. I was gonna say, how do you walk away from that not knowing the finale? But I guess. I guess that's a mystery for all of us to unravel.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But anyway, no, so it's. It's kind of similar here where we don't really know what's being thrust upon us, but Eva has approved it, and sometimes it's. It's a horrifying story. So thank you, Eva. But today I think we have a little theme going. Sometimes we do a theme each month and we have Halloween pranks on my end. And then I think you brought with you weird true crime headlines. Is that true?

[B]

Yes. So they're also Halloween prank related, Kind of like Halloween prank gone wrong in the news. And if I do have one listener story also if we need that. So we do.

[C]

So how would you like to do this? Would you like to kick it off as our guest celebrity host? What's it. What's it in? Beer pong. A celebrity shot. When you, when someone steps in.

[B]

I'll take it. Okay. That is what it is. That is what it. What it is. And I will take my shot. M. So I can, I can go ahead and go first. This was who I don't even know the word to describe it. Perfect for this episode, I guess.

[C]

Great.

[B]

I guess you could say I saw this and I got it from live5news.com cool. And the headline article is graphic Halloween decoration spurs 911 call.

[C]

Okay. Are we talking sexual graphic? I mean graphic can go a lot of ways.

[B]

It really can. No, no, no. This is basically. I don't know if I can show you the picture here, but somebody put a fake dummy underneath their lawnmower and put a bunch of blood around it. And so this happened in Salisbury, North Carolina. And this is just a little snippet of what the article says. The Halloween decor at a home along Oregon Church Road. Which by the way, I hate when.

[C]

There'S a church road involved. And it's spooky. It's just meant written in the stars.

[B]

And Oregon ahead of it. Oregon Church Road. That is very creepy.

[C]

Yeah. Like leather facelifts on Oregon Church Road, you know?

[B]

Yes, exactly. So in eastern Rowan county. Scared a driver so much that he called 91 1, nearly prompting a full emergency response. The call came into the county's 911 Communications Center Monday morning after the caller stated that he saw what appeared to be a man trapped under a riding lawnmower.

[C]

Oh my God.

[B]

Luckily, someone else quickly let the 911 folks know it was just a decoration. Just in time to stop. Would have. Would have been an emergency response. Wow.

[C]

Wow, wow. So I mean imagine first of all, although I. I see the merits. This feels like something any dad would at least conjure up in his brain before physically doing it. I so I am. I'm on board with like prank love that. But yeah, the. The mental torment of thinking that I actually saw a body under a lawn mower would rock my like be crazy. No, I know I can you was there blood everywhere. There has to at least be like fake blood if you're going to commit to the. The set back of this know.

[B]

Yes. So it does. It does say this. As seen in the pictures taken Monday by wbtv, the scene does appear realistic. The Blood covered arms and legs sticking out from beneath the blood splattered lawnmower on a large patch of grass, but.

[C]

No organs in the yard on Organ Church Road.

[B]

No organs.

[C]

How realistic are you being, really? You know?

[B]

Exactly. Like, if you're crushed under a lawnmower, there's got to be a little bit of organ action. I don't know.

[C]

You know, this is kind of. I would. I wouldn't pair this energy because if we're doing Halloween pranks, I, again, love this. But I. It's. It's just under the Halloween pranking of, like, clowns just standing in your yard. You know what I mean?

[B]

Oh, God.

[C]

Because I'm. I feel like the whole. There's. It's one thing to, like, be pranked and I'm scared, but there's a whole other category when I'm like, should I call the police? Like, what's going on?

[B]

No, absolutely it. And I agree with you. I think this had to have been done by a dad. I think you are so spot on. First of all, none of us are gonna be like, yeah, let's get a lawnmower out of the. The garage. Like, that's why you have to own a lawnmower.

[C]

That's such a man. Man behavior. Yeah. Just saying. I don't know. A single mom who's like, let me whip out the John Deere and throw it out on my turf. Yeah, not gonna happen. Oh, my gosh. Anyway.

[B]

But yeah, I thought that one was the perfect start. And there was a quote from a local person. I'm gonna end this one with this. She said it's something to talk about around town, said Winda Bethia, the clerk on duty at Cheeseman store. Wait, Cheeseman store?

[C]

Meant for a horror movie?

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Would you say her name was Bathsheba or something?

[B]

It's Wendy Bethia.

[C]

That feels spiritual. That feels like she conjured this.

[B]

She is. She is very magical. So she said, I've had a couple customers talking about it being out there. I think it's harmless. I think it's fun Halloween.

[C]

And it is. But for those 5 milliseconds where I was unsure if I were the one driving past, like, how many phone calls were directed to the police station? Like, how many people did have to go to therapy after this?

[B]

I know. That's what I'm saying. That is scarring. I. Yeah, I. I'm definitely, like, a very dramatic person. And like, yeah, if I saw that, I would be freaking out. Calling everyone, calling 911, calling my mom, calling My dad calling, my grandma call. You know, I'd be like, guys, guys, guys, guys.

[C]

And question for you. Have you seen Sinister? The movie Sinister?

[B]

I haven't.

[C]

Okay, it's Sinister, believe it or not. But it. There's a really horrific lawnmower scene, which, I mean, it's pretty shot for shot. I'm imagining as. As this prank seems to be going. But it. It really rocked me. And I'll. It's kind of one of the. I. I'm personally triggered in a certain way where if I saw someone under a lawnmower, I. It's. It's. I. I'd be moved in a particular way. So, no, if it really was as realistic as they're claiming, then I would be crying. But if it's just like a fake spirit Halloween dummy that. I'm like, that's Uncle Jeff. I. I know he. I know. That's. That's his work right there.

[B]

Well, right.

[C]

Great. Great first headline. Well done. Well done.

[B]

Thank you. Thank you.

[C]

I have a listener story for you.

[B]

Ooh.

[C]

And it is titled the Time My Dead dad Haunted Me for fun. See, men love to do this, dead or alive.

[B]

What is wrong with them? What are we gonna do?

[C]

So it's like, I need to bother somebody. Sorry. I'm in a real mood today about men. Sorry.

[B]

That's every day for me too. Don't worry.

[C]

Okay, perfect. Glad we're on the same page. So this is by Rebecca, so. Hello, Rebecca. So Rebecca says hi, everyone. Long time listener, first time writer. When I saw the request for prank slash petty stories, I immediately knew I needed to write in backstory. I have always been into paranormal, spooky things, loved horror movies, and would take any excuse to try to talk to the dead. Where do you stand on that, Amanda? Were you also in that. In that vein?

[B]

You know, I am a scaredy cat. Trevin forces me to watch scary movies on our Patreon because my reactions are out there, to say the least.

[C]

I'll tell him to make you watch Sinister next.

[B]

Yes, I think he actually does want me to watch that one, so. Oh, my God. But no, I. I've always been. I believe in spirits. I believe in hauntings, all of those things. And I. I did grow up in a haunted house, but I never. I never tried to interact. That just wasn't me for me, you.

[C]

Know, kind of did the, like, keep my eyes open and my mouth shut.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

Just keep it moving. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I. I think I'm a little. A touch above that. If Christine were here, I Would be probably poking fun at her because she at any turn will whip out a Ouija board. But I would say I'm not. I'm not with the Ouija vibes. However, I am. I'm pretty good at shouting into an empty room and thinking a million spirits are hearing me. So, okay, yeah, I do that a lot. Especially when I'm scared and I just say, shut it down. I don't want this. But yeah, I think I interact a healthy amount. And the rest of it, I'm just like, if I don't look, they'll leave, you know?

[B]

Oh, yeah, I was at your live show. I saw your spooky investigations.

[C]

Oh, brother. Well, okay. Well, so you two are brave. Thank you. Wow. Finally some recognition over here. Okay. Rebecca says my dad passed away when I was two and a half and growing up we lived in my dad's family home where nearly everyone in my family has lived at some point or another. They've all been in this house and my mom and I continued to live there after my dad died. It's a three story home. My aunt lived in the first floor apartment and we lived on the second and third floor apartment. Seeing as it has seen generations of my dad's family, the house was straight up haunted when we moved in and no one in the family denied it. I want to say horrifying, but also it sounds like it's just haunted by your own family. So you're probably good.

[B]

I know. I'm like, how gener, how many generations does this go back? Because if it's like hundreds of generations of your family has lived there, it's probably. Yeah, a familial ghost, right?

[C]

Yeah. The worst thing about these ghosts, depending on how far back we go, is like, maybe they're just like, I don't know, fucking racist. I don't know, like maybe. Hopefully the worst thing about them in this house, weird, albeit harmless things would happen, would constantly happen, like rocking chairs, rocking by themselves, footsteps being heard when no one else was even in the building. And plenty of unexplained sounds. Great. And they keep their racism to the. To themselves. Perfect.

[B]

Yeah, that's lovely.

[C]

To say my dad was a prankster would be an understatement. He was always looking for ways to make people laugh or lighten the mood. And dying definitely didn't stop him. I love that. Love that he likes a challenge.

[B]

Yeah. Determined.

[C]

On my birthday one year, I invited my best friend Rachel to sleep over, which meant we got to watch scary movies and stay up all night and raid the kitchen pantry for snacks. And we came up with the idea to try to talk to the dead, namely my dad. Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Bring dad to the sleepover. Sure.

[B]

Yeah. I'm like, oh, all right. Okay.

[C]

Most people want their dad out of that house for a sleepover, but he's totally. Come on in. It is important to note that at this point, the only people in the apartment are my mom, who is asleep upstairs, and Rachel and I, who are together at sleepover. So there we sat on the floor in the playroom holding hands and said something along the lines of, dad, if you're here, give us a sign and move something in the room. But nothing happened. We sat there for another five minutes, waiting for my dad to do something. But eventually, we resorted to watching a movie in the other room. I love that eventually everyone's fed up with their dads.

[B]

They're like, okay, dad, way to let me down. I'm going to go watch a movie.

[C]

If you're not going to be cool about this, then you're not invited anymore.

[B]

Exactly. Yeah.

[C]

About 20 minutes into the movie, we decided we needed snacks. But as we're going to the kitchen, we noticed that a chair in the playroom is in a different spot. Okay. All of a sudden, I'm out. Weird, but okay. Maybe we were all just mistaken. However, when we walked by, again, the chair was across the room. Forget it. That's just not.

[B]

No, no.

[C]

See, I was so on board with dad doing something cool, and the second he does something cool, I'm like, you have to leave. I.

[B]

You have to get back to the movies.

[C]

We're obviously freaked out, but agree once again that maybe we were mistaken. So we continue into the living room to watch the movie. And at this point, the movie is not being watched, and we keep pausing to discuss how the chair definitely moved. I love that part of a sleepover, though, when you can't even get through a movie because you just have to. You have to vent about something. And they're like, am I going crazy? Like, can you. Can you hear the chair moving? So before I go any further, we do have a running. I don't know. Debate isn't the right word, but we're constantly asking each other, Christina and I, and I'd like to ask you, when something goes paranormally missing, do you think that it actually moves itself across a room, or do you think it vanishes into a void and reappears somewhere else?

[B]

That's a good question.

[C]

Taylor's oldest time over here. We can't figure it out.

[B]

Oh, I just totally dropped my bag. Sorry.

[C]

You're totally good. I think Christine has landed on. It disappears and reappears, and I'm still kind of on. Maybe it move. I don't know. I never. It changes every day.

[B]

I am more in the. The mindset that it moves. I've honestly never until this very conversation have ever considered that it went into a void and then came back out.

[C]

I feel like I'm explaining a dream to somebody.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That. That's just me. But I feel like it has to physically move, right? I don't know.

[C]

I just. I feel like there's so many, like, glitches in the universe where, like, it could just kind of, like, just fizzle out for a second and reappear.

[B]

That's true. That's true.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

There's a bunch of different multiverses. Sometimes things glitch out, and who knows?

[C]

I also wonder about the strength of a ghost, because let's say this chair is moving across the room. Does he have to have muscle mass as a ghost? Or can he just kind of, like, mental? Because I'm imagining, like, a dad with, like, like, bad lower back pain or something, who can barely push it, like, trying to scoop this chair for the prank. You know what I mean?

[B]

Totally. Like, does the. Does the ghost have to, like, hit the ghost gym to get buff before they can move the item? I don't know. That's a good question, too.

[C]

We'll never know. Well, they're in the middle of turning this. This TV show off for this movie off. Going like, that was weird, right? That was weird. This chair is moving. We're obviously freaked out, but maybe we were mistaken. So we continue to. We continue into the living room to watch the movie, turn the TV off, start talking. Oh, we creep down the hallway, and what do we see in the playroom but the chair. Amanda. We creep down the hallway, and what do we see in the playroom but the chair hanging off a nail on the closet door? And just like that, it's a demon. There's. Immediately I go from dad to demon. That's.

[B]

That is not your father.

[C]

Sorry. That's not. Especially because your dad would be like, those are my good nails. Not on my door hinge. You know, some. Something like that.

[B]

He'd be like, that needs an anchor in it that's not strong enough to hold a chair.

[C]

Especially, like, the. We're not even talking about the magical, mystical element of, like, the chair being able to balance and not just falling and slamming Onto the ground. Like, it's right. Nearly levitating with a little support.

[B]

I mean, that's.

[C]

I mean, maybe your dad is really committed to a bit, but that's crazy.

[B]

That's.

[C]

Yeah, that would abs if I were Rachel. I'm never coming back to your house. Let's start there. I'm never visiting again.

[B]

I know. I need to know if they ever had a sleepover together after this. I mean, probably not.

[C]

My stomach would be sick. I. Like, I would be like, I. There's no sleeping tonight. We're going to ihop. We're leaving the house. I don't know what we're doing, but we're getting out of here. We sprint back to the living room to debrief about what we just saw. I like how you couldn't possibly just do it as you're looking at it, right?

[B]

They're like, get out of here. Okay. What the hell?

[C]

And we agree that we need to tell my dad to stop because we're too freaked out at this point, despite literally getting what we explicitly asked for. I mean, isn't that just the worst curse of it all? We walk back into the room, and the chair is now on the ground in front of the closet door, which, by the way, we're not talking about the fact that that means it was gently placed. It was re levitated off the nail to then be put down instead of slamming to the ground.

[B]

So, yeah, they would have heard it if it fell.

[C]

That feels like an intelligent request of like, okay, dad, you're freaking out. Freaking us out. Stop. And yeah, taking it off the. But a framed music poster is in the middle of the floor now. So now he's just taking everything off the hooks at this point.

[B]

He's like, what about this? What about that? He's like, he's really showing off now.

[C]

Yeah. And also, I'm curious about what music poster. Like, what. What could that mean?

[B]

Maybe like, is it his favorite band? Is that why she's like, this is my dad? Because maybe. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe it's not. Maybe it's not an evil spir it. If it's like his favorite band. And he's like, hey, yeah.

[C]

He's like, if you want a real killer sleepover, this is the soundtrack you got. Throw the vinyl on, you know?

[B]

Yeah. He's like, turn that movie off that you're not even listening to and listen to the classics 100%.

[C]

That is a dad. He's like Guns and Roses or something. Let me see. I say something along the lines of dad. Thanks for the proof, but please stop now. Fair enough. Thank goodness he stopped when asked. But once I fessed up and told my mom a week later, I learned some new facts. The room that we were in was the room that my dad had set up while he was sick and still at home. The room that all this was happening in.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Also the poster that. Thank you for answering my hard hitting journalism questions. The poster that had made its way into the middle of the room was of David Bowie. And my. And that was his poster. It was his. His David Bowie poster.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Come on.

[B]

It was your dad. I was wrong in the beginning, okay?

[C]

He. He just wants to boogie. It's not that hard. He chairs on the door hinges. We need dancing room. Oh, he's coming on. Plenty of other weird things have happened in that house, and my dad still makes his presence known by frequently presenting the number 333 when I need a pick me up. My. Mine's 222. Do you have a number like that?

[B]

Oh, yes, I do. My number is I see sixes and eights, like, everywhere. And this is probably just like my OCD mental illness, but six means yes to me and eight means no. It's a whole thing.

[C]

I totally don't judge you for that. That makes sense. Thank you. What was gonna freak me out is if in response to the 222 and 333 thing, you were like, oh, yeah, mine's 666.

[B]

Right? Right.

[C]

Girl, go to a church.

[B]

Go to Church Road.

[C]

Or go to Oregon Church Road. My dad still shows himself by presenting the number 333 when I need a pick me up or if I've. If I just need to make a big decision. He's been known to do things to my cousins who moved into the apartment after us, like blowing a curtain in my cousin's face when she was having a bad day. What a dad move. Oh, your day's bad. I'll make it. Yeah. Might as well spit on me. Jesus Christ. Okay. Or moving objects around when you're looking for them. Sorry, that was a long one. But hope you enjoyed the story of the time my dead dad pranked us at my birthday sleepover. Thank you, Rebecca. That was awesome. And your dad sounds like. I don't know, he sounds like he probably tailgated a lot. I don't know. He sounds like a real partygoer, a party animal. But he sounds like he's still around, still kicking it.

[B]

So anyway, I love that Rebecca. Oh, my goodness. That was a good One. Yeah. Now that I've got all the information, it does definitely sound like some dad behavior. Some dad ghost behavior. Besides, Besides the, the nail. I really am like, it's a little too much. Yeah. I'm like, that was the part where I was uneasy because I was like, yeah, my dad's constantly being like that needs an anchor in it. Just a nail can't hold it. Like that's just what I'm used to. But hey.

[C]

And honestly, if he. I mean, he really does sound like he was like, like a party animal. He sounds like he knew how to throw down. And so maybe he just came on a little too strong. Oh, maybe he was just like, you want to see some crazy ghost? Look what I can do now that I'm a ghost. And everyone was like, ah, make it more human. And he went, oh, okay. Poster.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. She's like, dad, not in front of, front of my friends. Put the chair.

[C]

I mean I could. Yeah, I could see myself doing that as a ghost. If someone's like, I need proof in my mind, I'd be like, I'm gonna give you the craziest proof. I'm gonna lift couch and put it on the ceiling. And then everyone's like, ah, poltergeist. And I'm like, ah, I can't win. I don't know what to do. So maybe, maybe that's what was going on there. But I'm glad he. He dialed it down from a 12 to like, maybe a healthy six, you know?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Do you have any, any ghost things like that? I mean, have you ever seen fucking furniture levitate or anything?

[B]

Oh, God, no. I've never had anything like that happen so far in my life, luckily. But like I said, I did grow up in a haunted house where we would hear voices, furniture would be moved. Not, not necessarily like in this story, but we would come home and like the couch would be shifted or there were a couple times. It was when I was in high school and my room was in the basement and my dad would be like, amanda, are you okay? Because he'd hear something and it was like this weird, like high pitched voice. And then he'd go down there and I'd be asle. And it wasn't me or. Now this one actually does tie in. I did have a sleepover once growing up. I think I was in middle school, maybe early high school. And it was in the haunted house. We were in the basement and it was like a. It had a light that you could fade it, you know, you could make it really bright or dim it. And the lights were on fully full bright light. And the light slowly dimmed off. And we all, of course, you know, screamed. Screamed and freaked out. And we're like, who did that? Like, someone's messing with us, thinking it was my brother or my dad. Yeah, yeah. And anyway, we. We were, like, you know, hunched all together, and then slowly the light dimmed all the way back on, and absolutely no one was standing there. There was no one even nearby.

[C]

So immediate chills.

[B]

Yeah. So that's really the spookiest thing that I've ever had happen.

[C]

Well, similar to. Do you think things physically move or, like, kind of pop out somewhere else? Do you think that the dimmer itself was actually moving? Or do you think it just kind of controlled the electricity?

[B]

Oh, see, I don't know.

[C]

It doesn't need. Doesn't need the material item to do what it wants to. To do.

[B]

Really.

[C]

What do you think about, like, flickering lights? That's not like there's a ghost by the switch doing this.

[B]

Right, right, right. They're not like.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know. I never. Because we were so scared and hunched together, I never looked at the dimmer as it was happening, you know, so.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

I wish I would have. That would have been something, but. Good question. I always assumed it had to move, but now you have me rethinking everything.

[C]

Thank you. You know, I like. I like to ruin people's day, if anything, just to give you something to really ponder and never have an answer to. Some people would say that's, like the. The worst gift I can give you is just a headache. So enjoy.

[B]

No, just something to think about when I need a, you know, a new thought.

[C]

That's why. Because to me. No, to me, it's one of the. It's one of those thoughts that would. It drives me to a brink of insanity every now and then, because I'll just sit there and I'll just think about. And I'll never know. I just have to just live without knowing it. And it. I can't. Can't Google that one, you know?

[B]

Right, Right.

[C]

Oh, it drives me nuts. So I'm haunted by those thoughts always. Please join me in that. A lot of people think that OCD is just kind of this set of stereotypes, but they don't realize that it's actually a serious and highly misunderstood condition that causes people to get stuck in a cycle of stressful, unwanted thoughts and repetitive physical behaviors. A lot of people don't even know if they have it or they Feel shame about it, or they get stuck in the suffering, in silence of it all. A lot of people, I mean, the. The thoughts are really intrusive, and the behaviors that they do to try to alleviate those thoughts are, you know, they. They take over your life. It can. It can be really debilitating. One of the other problems is that not every therapist understands OCD or is qualified to treat it effectively, which can make it difficult to find the right help, and then that makes you feel stuck all over again. But OCD is highly treatable with a specialized type of therapy called erp, or Exposure and response prevention. And Christina's done it. Christina said that it's definitely helped her a lot. And with no cd, you can do live virtual ERP therapy with licensed therapists who specialize in ocd. No CD therapists are highly trained, so they really understand OCD and won't judge you no matter what your thoughts are, Whether they're super intrusive, Even if they're on the lighter side and you just want to talk to somebody, they are there for you. NOCD therapy is covered by insurance for over 155 million Americans. So if you think you or someone you know might be struggling with OCD, please don't wait to go get help. Go to nocd.com and book a free call with their team to learn more. That's n o c d.com to Schedule A free call and learn more. Do you have a another headline?

[B]

I do, and this is actually a headline that was recommended to us from a listener on our Facebook group. And I think it was suggested, like, a year ago, but I was looking up Halloween things to see what people had suggested. So sorry, Steve, that it took this long for me to get to it.

[C]

Oh, there's people. When we do a listeners episode, sometimes they're like, oh, my God, Just started listening. And then we look at the date of the email, and it's, like, from five years ago. And I'm like, oh, well, yeah, you're probably not even here anymore.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my gosh. But this is from the New York Post, and the title is Boozed Up Karate Master beats Up Worker dressed as a Ghost. Then Sue's Haunted house and loses.

[C]

Oh, a lot of things are happening there. Okay.

[B]

A lot of things are happening. Do you, like, again? Yeah, I can say it one more time. So boost Up Karate Master beats up Worker dressed as a ghost. Then Sue's Haunted house and loses.

[C]

I'm with you now. Okay, so, like, he probably went to, like, a, like, A jump scare attraction.

[B]

That's what I think. So. Yes, yes, yes. Which, by the way, do you like those? M. Do you go to, like, the haunted houses?

[C]

You have no idea what little box of mysteries you're opening up here. I love, love these. I usually for October, because there's usually like four weekends I pick four big jump scare attractions. I'm lucky. I live in la, where there's just like, stuff everywhere. Usually there's like Universal and there's. There's a haunted hayride, there's Knott's Berry Farm. Everything's got something going on. I. There's nothing I love more than the jump scares. And my thing, though is they don't scare me. I. I think I'm just too in the headset headspace of like. I really like movie sets and I feel like I'm on a movie set and so I just walk around and I'm observing the material and how it all got made. So I'm like the most boring person to walk in there. But usually I go with my girlfriend, who's much more of a scaredy cat, in which case I just kind of like. She makes me stand in front of her sometimes, in which case I kind of secretly point and I like, go get her. Go get her. I'm not here for that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So anyway, I love them. Do you love them?

[B]

You know, for being such a scaredy cat myself, I actually do really enjoy a haunted house because I know logically it's not a real situation. However, I do get scared by them. And I am like the loudest scaredy cat in the whole thing. So if we ever go together. Yeah. I'll be the one. Well, they have.

[C]

The one of them that is out here is the Queen Mary, which we've. Eva and I have both investigated with Christine. And that was our first tour. That was the footage that we got was at the Queen Mary. And there's supposedly a ghost there named Jackie, who's a little girl, but she's actually a demon in disguise. And so they have a whole jump scare attraction on the ship where the whole thing is like, Jackie tries to jump out and scare you. And so it's very. It's very fun to go there, especially because some of the more haunted areas of the Queen Mary are like the boiler room. And they have this whole dark jump scare attraction through all these places that Christine, Eva and I actually investigated. So it's very weird to be walking through a place that they've dressed as if it's haunted when can confirm I've been in there alone without all the Halloween decorations or with them actually, because they were setting up for Halloween.

[B]

Oh my gosh.

[C]

And it, it's incred. You don't need to up. It's haunted. So.

[B]

Yeah, that's actually really interesting. An already haunted space and then making it a haunted attraction. That's.

[C]

Yeah, it wasn't aesthetic enough, I guess. I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, I guess not. So. So this article. Let's get back to this. So a boost up karate expert in Japan shattered the jaw of a worker dressed as a ghost because he got startled at a haunted house, then took the spooky theme park to court and lost. So it says the suing Sensei. Oh, I like that. Sensei claimed it was simply a reflex when he landed a kick to the face on a worker who had frightened him at the Toy Coyote studio Park in 2011. Oh my gosh. Okay.

[C]

Is it an attraction? A Halloween traction? Well, you're.

[B]

Yes, I think it is. Yes, yes, yes. At the Toy Coyote Studio park. Yes. So I didn't realize this was such a long ongoing legal battle. So during a 13 year legal battle, the injured ghost won 68, 400 settlement from the Karate pro as payment for his broken jaw in 2015.

[C]

Oh my God.

[B]

Wow. Okay. The person who, who got. Or the person who kicked, I guess hasn't. Their name hasn't been released. Sure. But he later filed a lawsuit claiming the park was partially responsible for the attack because it failed to train staff to prevent attacks. What?

[C]

I'm sorry, Nobody is trained to prevent attacks. You just get attacked and then you have to deal with it. What are you talking about?

[B]

Yeah, I. That, that startled me. So. Yes, he said because it failed to train staff to prevent attacks by scared visitors.

[C]

In the lawsuit it sounds like he's saying like, well, they couldn't keep up with me. Like they just couldn't.

[B]

Right.

[C]

He's like, well, they didn't have a baseball bat, so it's not my fault that they didn't hit me with a. That the baseball method doesn't exist. What are you talking about?

[B]

Yeah, he's like, actually you guys need to have formal training on how to prevent attacks from scared individuals. Like what?

[C]

I mean, it's literally victim blaming of being like, well, you should have stopped me and you didn't, so I'm in the right to have done this. What are you saying?

[B]

Oh my God. So in the lawsuit he claimed that the park. He claimed that the park didn't inform customers that humans were playing the Roles of ghosts.

[C]

So sorry.

[B]

And demanded it pays 70 of the settlement. Okay.

[C]

He needed to be warned that Casper would be at a Halloween event. And also, he wasn't. When you hit a ghost and it has a jaw and you break it, be prepared. It wasn't ever a ghost. Buddy, I don't know what to tell you.

[B]

I mean, I've never been to a haunted attraction where someone came out and they're like, listen up, everybody. The ghosts inside, they are played by actual real life humans. And I'm gonna need you not to kick them in the jaw.

[C]

Does he think Halloween town is, like, based on a true story or something? Like, what do you. Like, there are skeletons who are cab drivers. It just happens. What do you mean?

[B]

I. I simply don't know. But that is the most absurd thing. No wonder he lost his lawsuit. Like, what?

[C]

And his lawyer had to have given the deepest sigh before he had to say that out loud in a courtroom of like, this is our defense. The judge should have been like, just turn around and try again. That's not. That can't be.

[B]

The judge is just like, just go home.

[C]

Yeah, Just go home. I could tell that even you're over this if this is what.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Brought to me. Well, okay, so what I was gonna say is for whenever I go to haunted attractions, I often go with a friend who happens to be named Christine, but is not Christina. But that's why I drink.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[C]

And she. She has to walk through clasping both of her hands because her first reaction when she gets startled is to punch. And so she has to keep her hands, like, really still. But her reaction is to kind of fling out and, like, you know, get whoever's coming at her. So I could understand if he really was scared, maybe hit. But doing, like, a full kick to the jaw or whatever is, like, really theatrical. Like, that's. That's not a reaction. That's a. A trained. If you want to call it a trained response.

[B]

That's.

[C]

It's too beautiful of a reaction. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yes, exactly. It's not like a quick. Like, he was like. I mean. And he's a.

[C]

Like, I'm imagining, like, a little spin, like, to wind up, you know?

[B]

Yes. That is like, he's a trained sensei. Like, I know.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, you're. I don't. I don't understand. And also, it would. Maybe I could see it if this was an attraction. I can't do these. This is where I tap out when they're the jump scare attractions, where they're allowed to touch you. Like.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Like, I would never. One of the reasons I don't get scared of them is because I know they can't touch me. So I know I'm safe all the time. But if something came at me, sure, I would probably also throw a punch if I got too scared. But this is. This sounds like it was. Not that. I. No wonder you lost. This is such a. This feels. At this point, the headline is like, what's the saying on Tick Tock? Like, breaking news, Water is wet or something. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, hitting an employee, you're not going to win that lawsuit.

[B]

And of course, the ghosts are played by humans. Like, what did he think they were played by? Robots? Goats?

[C]

Like a Disney animatronic.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the old Chuck E. Cheese animatronic. But it's ghosts. Like what? I don't know, silly.

[C]

He has. After 13 years, too. He has to have thought at least once. I'm probably gonna lose this case. Like, why don't you tap out at some point and say, like, I'm done paying lawyers for 13 years on this.

[B]

13 years of a legal battle. Just give it up. You broke a jaw.

[C]

Like, he's either incredibly stubborn and, like, dug his heels in knowing that this was not going well for him, but he couldn't back out, or he was weirdly confident in his defense, which is a whole other. That's a. Maybe a mental health emergency maybe. Oh, man. Well, good headline. Well done. Good find you.

[B]

That was. It was a. It was a silly one. I didn't realize it went on that long, though. That was an. I didn't read that part earlier.

[C]

Oh, that's okay. No, I. I appreciate the. The juicy info. You know, his family still makes fun of him at Thanksgiving being like, oh, what are you gonna do? Kick me in the jaw? It'll cost you a hundred thousand. Do thirteen years of your life, like, you have to get ragged on it by someone. Someone at the bar makes fun of you, you know?

[B]

Right. If they're not, then I'm questioning the people in his life. Like, right. Someone needs to hold this guy accountable.

[C]

Yeah. If he's not around people who are holding him accountable, he's in the wrong circle. Here is another story for you. This is by another Rebecca. And the title of this is Sorority House Haunts. I don't know if you know this, but I seem to stumble across quite a few haunted sorority fraternity houses. I guess because there's just so much chaos there. Right. Hormones in. In Theory spirits kind of feed off that energy. So yeah, it's kind of like a lot of poltergeist cases if, you know, it could just be a hoax. But the, the running serious theory is that if there are teenagers in the house because they're going through so much developmentally, their energy is a little more chaotic, they're a little off kilter. And so they may be channeling chaotic energy or energy is already there that now has something to feed off of. And so a lot of poltergeist cases do have pre teen teenagers in the home.

[B]

So you are telling me right now that not only do I have to worry about my two daughters turning into teenagers in general, but I have to worry about now a poltergeist coming up in my house.

[C]

The biggest apology one could give. Yeah, that, that is on the docket of symptoms I don't warn you of is poltergeist.

[B]

Yeah, this is not explained to me ahead of time, if it helps.

[C]

The, the other running theory though is that this is all a hoax. And what are the odds that there's always teenagers in the homes of poltergeist cases where they could just be playing pranks on their parents. So maybe you've just got some prankster living children, you know, instead of just demons kind of crawling around. Anyway, I would take that. Good luck.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, good luck with that.

[C]

So this is from Rebecca. Rebecca says, I have lived in a sorority house for three years now and I have experienced some creepy shit. Our house is known to be haunted by our house mom, Ms. Elias, who died in the house in the late 1990s. It is said that she watches over us from time to time to make sure we follow the rules and be good sisters. So we know that we have an old lady spirit in the house watching over us, but it has never scared us. But I saw something else that made the whole house pretty spooked. One night I was walking from my corner room to the bathroom to get ready for bed. And this was around midnight, so it wasn't like 3am or anything super creepy like that, that this was a normal night and I was just getting ready for bed. But to get to the bathroom, I had to turn a corner to get into this long narrow hallway which was about 10 or 15 steps away. This long hallway is creepy, like what you see in horror movies. So with tired eyes, I turned the corner and entered the hallway. And I see a girl with long curly hair standing at the end of it. This is some shining.

[B]

Yes, that's exactly what that Is which, by the way, Trevin went to the Stanley Hotel when we were in Denver for CrimeCon. And yeah, that's the exact vibe this is giving 100%.

[C]

And also, I can't imagine the hotel prices must have been in such a surge at the Stanley if crime con was, like, right around the corner. I feel like everyone was staying at the Stanley.

[B]

That's so cool. Yeah.

[C]

What was I gonna say if I. First of all, not to I fully believe something creepy is about to happen, but while I still have my sanity intact, I will say she lives in a sorority house. It has to happen all the time that you see a girl standing at the end a hallway, you know?

[B]

Yeah. Like, people are getting drunk, People are coming back to the sorority house. Probably like, you know, barely clinging on to for dear life business. Yeah. So, yeah. I'm curious to see where. How this takes the turn. Yeah, I agree.

[C]

I feel like so far, like, she's telling me she's in a sorority house and she saw a girl. Ah. It's like, yeah, yeah. Sorority sister. Okay. Just while we have a moment of normalcy, I stopped in my tracks and just stared at this girl, wondering if it was my friend Katie who lived at the end of the hall because she's the only person who had that type of curly hair. I couldn't tell if she was looking down or looking at me due to the dark lighting. However, I do remember the long, curly hair she had. So while staring at whatever she was or it was, I slowly walked towards it because the bathroom was just 15 steps away. I like that. That mental game of like. Like, I do have to approach you. Not too far, just a little. Please.

[B]

I have to tinkle. Please let me.

[C]

Please don't also meet me in the middle. Oh, my God. I like how you're like. All of a sudden, I'd be the world's best mathematician. I'm like, how far is 15ft? How many inches do I have to move forward to this girl? I didn't want to blink just in case it went away. And when I got. That's already. Your thought is like, if I blink, she'll vanish.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

When I got to the bathroom entrance, I put my stuff down, got my toothbrush and toothpaste, and went back out there to see if she was still there, and she was not. I didn't think much of it until months later.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[C]

One of the girls posted on our page on Facebook saying that she felt like Ms. Lias had been messing with her. They're old. The. The Ghost house mom. About 10 girls had the same experiences and 3 girls mentioned them having dreams of a girl with curly hair by their bed.

[B]

No, I can, I can take it being at the end of the hall. Like, I can run down the hall or whatever, but no one needs to be haunting me next to my bed. I really need the REM sleep.

[C]

Like, and not to be so creepy, but like, if she's letting you see her at the end of the hall, what is she not letting you see? Like, like how. Yes, she's been in your room. That's.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[C]

Also, if you're dead and you're stuck there for eternity, you're snooping through people's stuff, there's no way you're not. So she's. By day she's looking through your closet and at night she's just maybe the nice ways keeping an eye on you. But also she's standing at the foot of your bed. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah. Like, let's have some personal space here.

[C]

Gross. So they realized that the curly haired girl in the hallway. I, I then realized the curly haired girl in the hallway months before was probably the ghost that they had been dreaming about. But it. And it couldn't have been Ms. Lias because she was an old lady and this girl looked college age. Since all of us in the house were super sketched out about living in this house, we called a priest to bless it. I love the teamwork that everyone's like, let's just knock this out. A group of girls, including me, followed this priest as he blessed every window and door of the house. He said he would pay. He would pray softly when he blessed it and would only pray out loud when he felt more tension. So the louder he got, oh, the creepier the room was.

[B]

Oh my God.

[C]

He prayed out loud only once in my friend Bailey's room on the other side of the house. Bailey told us before that that she had gotten locked out of her room and had to get the master key since you can only lock it from inside. But when she opened the door, no one was in her room. And there were witnesses saying that that no one in was in her room while she was gone for the 10 minutes. So it absolutely just locked itself from the inside.

[B]

Oh my gosh.

[C]

When she was telling her dad what happened on the phone, her. She was in her room when she was on this phone call. And her phone call went out multiple times and her TV made static noise by itself. Sometimes downstairs when it's late. People have said that they heard Rings of a grandfather clock go off and. We don't have a grandfather clock. I beg of you. What are you talking about?

[B]

Okay, that might be the creepiest thing.

[C]

Of all, 100%, because that's from another time. It's like time is kind of like, melting into each other. Yes.

[B]

Like, did the house at one time have a grandfather clock? That's what I'm thinking.

[C]

You have to. You have to assume that there's, like, some old. Like, the history itself is haunted there. Like, the architecture.

[B]

Yes. And I was wondering about the age of the girl, because, yeah, she was saying it was, like, an older sorority mom, but then maybe it was her back in her youth. I don't know.

[C]

That's a great point. Like, maybe it. And you know what? A lot of people say that if you see someone's ghost, you actually see them at, like, the age that they were the happiest, or you see them at the age that was, like, most pivotal. So, like, a lot of people say, like, I saw my grandfather, but he was in his 30s, and I didn't know that it was him. I thought there was just a random ghost in my house until I found a photo album, and I saw him in his 30s, and it was him, so.

[B]

Oh, okay. Hey. See, this is the first time you've given me hope. Like, maybe when I come back to haunt people, I'll be, like, in my.

[C]

Prime, you know, I. I. Eva, if you could quote that for a review on this podcast. This is the first time you've given me hope. And it took, like, eight years of podcasting, by the way, that someone's ever said that to me, so thank you. Recently, other girls have seen someone in their room who they do not recognize late at night. And one girl even woke up with scratches on her back. Okay. All of a sudden, I'm back to not having hope. You.

[B]

Oh, same that lasted so shortly.

[C]

That was, like, literally a duration of 4 seconds.

[B]

Scratches on the back. And we're back to reality.

[C]

Every now, now and again, things will happen, but we have not solved who that girl with the curly hair is. I haven't seen her since I saw her in the hallway, so she still remains a mystery. And I have to tell you, one Halloween. Oh, before we get into that, you have to know she. Ha. Everyone has to know in this house that you. If you're talking about her in the house, she can probably hear you, too. And now nobody has seen her. I wonder if she was, like, kind of shamed away, you know, like, if she's like, embarrassed that people are so freaked out by her. Maybe she just wanted to hang out.

[B]

I don't know. She's like, you brought a priest into this? I thought this was a sisterhood. Whatever happened to community?

[C]

But yeah. No, I. I mean, what are the people. She must be hearing herself getting talked about, and all of a sudden now she's silent, you know? I don't know. I don't know. Interesting. I have to tell you. One Halloween night, I played a prank on everyone in the sorority, and I had a friend take a picture of me at the end of the hallway since I have curly hair. And I posted it on our Facebook page saying I had proof the ghost was back and we needed to call the priest again. I basically made everyone pee themselves. And some people even slept somewhere else that night. It was the best prank I ever pulled. And people are still talking about it. But now if I see something again, no one will ever believe me. Yeah, you did kind of shoot yourself in the.

[B]

Yeah, you're. You're the girl that cried ghost at this point.

[C]

That's exactly beautiful. Someone write that. Write that story. I thank you for listening to my stories. I write this in my new room in my sorority house at the other end of the creepy ass hallway, right where I saw the girl. Yeah, karma's coming. So wish me luck as my roommate and best friend. Shannon and I pray over a bottle of holy water for the next five months. And then she actually did send a picture of herself standing at the end of the hall. The. The prank. The prank picture. Let me see if I can.

[B]

Oh, my God. Oh, I. Yeah, I would love to see. Is it in the. Oh, wait. Oh, wait, I do see it. It's in the full. That is so creepy.

[C]

If that's what you saw, I can understand why it's. It's an ongoing conversation for you. Totally get it.

[B]

I have a lot of follow up questions. I. I want to know, like, is it the. Is it the house mom and she's just returning like we said in her youth? Or was there a young curly haired gal that maybe passed away in the house too, that they just don't know about?

[C]

Or, like, what happened? Or maybe before the house was there. Was it some. What other place could it have been? Yeah, I don't know. It could be anything. Thank you, Rebecca, for your story. Do you have. I think you have one more. You have two more? You have a headline?

[B]

Yeah, I have a few. We definitely do not have to go through all of them, but let's see. I have what's this one? Let me see if this is a good next one. Okay. No, not that one I want to do.

[C]

You're like, I gotta really bring it all of a sudden.

[B]

I. I know. I'm like, no, no, no. Okay, this one is wild. So this is from CBS news.com and the headline is Taunton family filing lawsuit after Halloween prank mishap at school. So Taunton is the town that it takes place in. So it says a Halloween prank last year could prove to be very costly to the Taunton school system. Last October, a teacher at Taunton High school asked a 15 year old student to answer a knock on the classroom door. At the door was a man in a mask and carrying what appeared to be a running chainsaw. Thank God. Yeah. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[C]

That goes. That's no one's uncle or dad. That's that person that's over the line in so many ways.

[B]

Of course, so many ways. Like you can't bring in a chainsaw to a school.

[C]

And also, given the state of our nation, you cannot be a grown man just walking into a school. You just. What is your. And if your intention is to scare children with a weapon that could end their lives, this is literally go time travel to another era where like that was not going to be so wildly inappropriate. Like, I don't know. I don't know where that, where that timeline is, but go there.

[B]

I guess it. Yeah. Because this was back in 2011. That's not that far away or that's not that long ago. Like, I guess that's.

[C]

That was before gun violence got really serious at school. So I guess it. Maybe we're. We're hearing it with new context and yeah, it's much worse than it probably pro. Probably would have been taken then.

[B]

Definitely. So. So after this masked man with what appeared to be a running chainsaw came in, the student opened the door, then jumped back, tripped and fractured a kneecap.

[C]

Oh, no. What a comedy of errors. Oh my God.

[B]

Everything about this just is the biggest, biggest prank fail of all time. So there's a quote from the family's attorney saying he was extremely terrified. Well, yeah. Yeah.

[C]

I'm sure. You don't say. To be fair, I like, without a random man with a chainsaw in front of me, I fall standing up. So I can't imagine if all of a sudden my knees buckle out of fear. Like I'm, I'm hitting the floor. There's no way. Of course you'd hurt yourself. I. That's Terrible. That's. And how do you explain that to your doctor? Like, when they're like, oh, why? What are you in here for? It's like, well, I. I thought I was gonna have to run for my life, and instead my knees just gave out instantly. Yeah.

[B]

Like, imagine that doctor. He's like, excuse me.

[C]

Yeah, the whole town. Again, talk about another. People at the bar have to make fun of this chainsaw guy to be like, who the hell do you think you are?

[B]

They have to. So the. The lawyer goes on to, quote, saying he just wasn't expecting something like that. Okay. Both of these sentences are, like, the most common sense statements I've ever heard in my life.

[C]

It's. Again, water is wet. It's like, yeah. No one expects. No one would expect that at all.

[B]

Oh, my God. So the family prepared a lawsuit, but was exploring ways to avoid trial to do better than the $100,000 cap when suing city employees. And so, actually, I'm not sure it said any potential trial would begin in the spring. And this was back in 2011, so I don't have the update.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But whoever did that needs to be punished.

[C]

Punished. And again, I think because in the timeline and the flow of things, this was before. We have some really good reasons to be scared of our kids experiencing a strange manner to school. I. I'm sure he got, like, lighter charges, but I wonder what his charges would be today of, like, inciting fear or, like, he would be, like, listed as, like, a domestic terrorist or something. Like, it would.

[B]

Oh, absolutely. It would honestly be. It would not fly a lawsuit or whatever. Like, there would be, like, charges, Charges.

[C]

But for sure, like, he would. I mean, certainly be, like, talk about getting shunned. Like, he would not be able to show his face anymore. And I. Yeah, honestly, this is a. A weird way to phrase it, but I feel like he has no idea how lucky he is that he did that in the time that he did it. Like, I know. I'm Matt. You can't. Like, he probably thought when he did that before someone, like, hurt their leg, I feel like he woke up that morning and thought, people are going to talk about this for years to come, and it's gonna be so funny. And it's like, little did you know, like, 10 years from then, nobody would find that funny, dude.

[B]

Like, no one. Not a one. Read the room and take your mask and chainsaw elsewhere, literally anywhere.

[C]

And I will say, like, let's not forget, like, why did. Why was his thought, I'm gonna wake up today and Pull a prank and I'm gonna scare someone and it's Halloween. Hahaha. But why would he pick a school full of children? You couldn't do this at like the office. Like you couldn't do this at a. Terrorize your neighbor.

[B]

Yeah, terrorize anyone else but the children.

[C]

Why did you pick children? Unless like, did your son go there and his favorite movie is like a chainsaw? Like, do you have context we don't know about? Or else like what was your plan? What was the reason? I'll never know.

[B]

Ever. No. Yeah, that's another thing. Add it to the list. You're gonna have to think about that one forever.

[C]

Her.

[B]

So.

[C]

Oh man. Well, the. I have one more story for you. Is that. Do you have time for it?

[B]

Yes, I am ready.

[C]

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[B]

Unfortunately, I am.

[C]

Okay, cool. So get ready for that.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Amelia says, my love for the spooky and for pranks extends way back. But one of my very first pranks involves Slender Man. I was newly involved in theater at my high school, and we were set to have our dress rehearsals going late into the night on the week of Halloween. At the same time, the Slender man game had been going viral, where a tall man in a suit with no face, just a blank white facade. He became popular due to Internet lore. And the Slender man game was a computer game where you went hunting around dark woods with a flashlight, looking for scary notes that the children he took left behind, and he tried to avoid him lurking out there in the night. So you go out there just to tell yourself he's out there, there. And then you hide from probably nothing. Hopefully nothing.

[B]

Hopefully.

[C]

Because maybe it's a Slender Man. Maybe it's a man who just left a school with a chainsaw, you know?

[B]

Right.

[C]

Well, since I was new to the theater world, I, for some reason got it in my head that I would make these spooky notes and hide them around the back of the theater and wait for reaction. Honestly, that's exactly the friend I would have had in high school. Like, I'm trying to make friends. Why don't I terrorize everybody? That'll do it.

[B]

You're gonna terrorize everyone.

[C]

One make a memory. That'll be how you're. How they like you. The notes were written on parchment paper, and I used charcoal to mimic the notes of the game. Some of the notes contained sayings like no, no, no, no, no. And other and drawings of Slender man himself. I was in choir, and so during the day of the prank, I convinced my choir director to let me into the dressing room, and I hid one of my notes in my friend's costume. Later the night, as we got dressed for our rehearsal, she found the note. Everyone started freaking out. I love that this is right before rehearsal. And like, the teacher, you know how a chorus teacher is probably just like, we have so much work that needs to be done. Tomorrow was opening night, and then someone finds a Slender man note in their pocket to distract you from the last night you have to practice. Yep, everyone's horrible timing. Everyone started freaking out. After all, the door had been locked to the dressing room all day, so who could have even gotten in there? There. And later, during a scene where almost everyone else was on stage, I taped a note to one of the stage doors. Relentless. When everyone came off stage and found the second note, things really ramped up. This is like in the middle of a show, it seems like. And like in between. Can you imagine, you're watching Hamilton and like when people aren't on stage, there's like they're trying to solve a crime. They're like, what?

[B]

There's a murder mystery going on backstage? Yeah.

[C]

Well, they'd all forgotten that I was not on stage. And they became convinced that maybe one of the stage hands had done it, but couldn't agree on who it would have been. The cast members proceeded to spray the notes with hairspray and agreed to burn them after rehearsal to get rid of them. And my friend, whose costume I had hidden the first note in, got really freaked out. So at this point I took her aside and told her it was me and asked if she would join me in this crusade. Of course she agreed and took a note out to her car, placed it inside the car and locked it. Then I put another note on top of another person's windshield. And by the time rehearsal ended, everyone was super excited to burn the. Burn their notes and be done with them. But when they all walked out to their individual cars, they found all these new notes. My friend opened her locked door and put on an excellent performance. Yeah, everyone's in theater. I forgot. This is. Is perfect. Desperately asking around as to how someone could have accessed her locked car, the castmates began to light the notes on fire. But they wouldn't catch. To this day, I don't really know why they wouldn't light on fire anyways. They. That really caused a whole other panic. And as people screamed and got into their cars, more notes were slowly found. People peeled out of that parking lot, terrified. I was so proud of this prank. And the next day I tried again, but it wasn't as funny in the daylight. And I fessed up to the prank.

[B]

Prank.

[C]

I've now learned to stop while I'm ahead. But it started a love of good natured pranks, especially if I can get my friends involved. I like. You know what she manifested. I want to make friends. And people can't forget your name after that.

[B]

I'll tell you that's absolutely. And you learned a life lesson. I mean, I. I don't know how many times I have to tell this to my 7 year old. A lot. I'm like, it's only funny the first time. Yes, you Cannot keep on with this one. So it sounds like she definitely, like, learned her lesson and. And things are a lot creepier just at nighttime in general, so.

[C]

Oh, yeah. And also, if a prank is that good, it's a. It's very quickly going to swell and you won't be able to keep it together. You know what I mean? Right. You gotta, you gotta just cut your losses ahead while you're ahead and be like, wasn't that really cool before it really blew up in my face? Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So, wow. Great, Great Halloween prank. Great Halloween prank.

[B]

That gives me Phantom of the Opera vibes. I love it.

[C]

I love it. Do you have one last one for us to end on?

[B]

Yes, I do. So this is a good one. This is a good one to end on. So. And this one, it looks like it was back in 2017, so perfect. This is from Wilkes10.com. It's a news station. And it said the headline is teens face arrest for pre Halloween prank. And this happened in Rahway, New Jersey. So here we go. Teenagers who are getting a jump on Halloween by dressing up as Bushes and surprising people in a New Jersey park could face arrests. The Union County Police Department fears the self proclaimed Rahway Bushman could cause someone to fall and sue the county. I mean, we did just see that with the, the suing and the sensei and the teacher and the.

[C]

I feel like the person who hurt their knee, their dad is in charge of that council. It's like, I've seen this before. We gotta just knock this out while.

[B]

We can down this road.

[C]

Also, which is the Rawway Bushman. That sounds like a minor league baseball team. Also, where are we finding all these bush costumes? Are they also in theater? What do you.

[B]

What I'm saying? Like, where do you. Do you go to Dick's Sporting Goods? Like. Yeah, like find such a thing?

[C]

Yeah, no, I mean, I guess it would be. I really can't actually think of a way where that would be funny because the only time I'm near bushes is if I'm like parking or if I'm relatively near the bushes. And I feel like depending on how many people are around, even if it's two people, all of a sudden people just spring out and they're right next to you. Immediately I'd be too freaked out.

[B]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. And they were doing this, this article came out October 26th, so they were doing it around Halloween time. Okay. When people are a little more like, ah, on edge. So two of the high school students would cover camouflage suits with Brush. While a while a third acts as a lookout. They stand in the Rahway river park and say hi to unsuspecting visitors. That's not that scary.

[C]

That alone, though. At a certain point I'm just like, okay, why are we saying hi to each other? I'm like, that's too much.

[B]

They're not even saying boo. They're like, hi. Hi. At least the bush, ma'. Am.

[C]

I will appreciate. I will appreciate that they're at least trying to let you know in advance, like, I'm not a threat. This is supposed to be silly versus like, hi, you know?

[B]

Yeah. They could be like, or I'm gonna get you. But instead they're like, hi.

[C]

It's like, is this just how you want to be friends? Like, everyone's just trying to make friends in a weird way. Like, just like that last story I told.

[B]

We all just need a friend. That's what the real life lesson is here. So one of the teens who would not give out their name to the publication said, it's more or less an idea to try to make people smile. Yeah, come on.

[C]

I think I need to see this in real life to understand the light heartedness of it because I think I'm just primed for true crime, as you probably are. Also.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

When I hear we hide in the bushes and I mean, it sounds like maybe they're not jumping out as people, they're just saying hi. If they're just saying hi, that's fine. I think in my mind, I'm assuming they're like coming at you, but I think that they.

[B]

Yeah, I think that they're like hiding and pretending to be a bush and then they're just popping out going, hi. And like they're trying to scare people and make them laugh, I guess.

[C]

I don't know. That makes it. That makes it sillier. That makes it more. I appreciate the energy. The. We're not going to approach you. We're just going to prank you from here. I like that.

[B]

That's cool.

[C]

Keep a distance.

[B]

It seems like the article, it didn't have a. A good ending, but it seems like the media was like trying to be like, you could face charges if you keep doing this. And it's like, guys, come on.

[C]

Yeah. Oh my God. In that case, if they're just sitting in a public space and saying hi, all of a sudden I'm on their side. And now I'm like, why would you get a charge for being polite? How dare you. Like, I've really shifted gears in this story, same. Where do you stand on this? Okay.

[B]

I do think, I don't know. I, like I said, I'm a big scaredy cat. So like, even if somebody said something as simple as like hi to me, I'd probably still jump or scream. But I would, me personally, if I saw it was just a bunch of teenagers dressed as like a bush like, or whatever they're doing, I think I would just laugh. I think I would, I would roll with the punches. But I could see how some people wouldn't. Sure. And a lot of people don't let things go the way I do.

[C]

So it's a good way to take it. That's a good way to look at it. I, I think once I erase the element of them jumping out at me from the bushes, I now I'm on board. But I really for a second just assumed it was like all the other stories we've been talking about. So now I'm on board. I like it. And now I'm mad that they were ever threatened with a charge. Like they're just saying hello.

[B]

I know. I think that was probably the most light hearted out of all of them. Nobody got a broken jaw, a busted kneecap, not an injury in sight.

[C]

No one invading a school, you know. Yeah, yeah, I like this one. This is, I feel like I, I would probably actually get in on this if I saw it in real life. I'd be like, what are you doing? You're just saying hi to people. I would just go and sit with them. And then it worked. They made a friend.

[B]

Yes, they made a friend. And also I need anybody listening right now. Where do you find a bush costume? Like, what, where, where is this? Like, am I like totally out of the loop on this? Like, I, maybe this is a rural community where this is like common knowledge. I don't know.

[C]

I did think you were going to say, based on the way you paused, where do you find friends? And I was gonna be like, girl, I don't know. Mystery of the century.

[B]

Where do you find friends? Can somebody please tell me?

[C]

I find them in the same place that you find these stupid bush suits. Because I can't find either of them. I guess I would assume, like they, like it was a camo guy, right? So I'm guessing he went to Jackson.

[B]

That's what I'm thinking.

[C]

He's like glue sticks to himself. I don't know, but it worked. I guess he got attention. That's, that's certainly how if you had to go out and make a friend, what what would be your way of doing it versus taping sticks to yourself, you know?

[B]

Well, for example, this weekend when we just went to Crime Con, it's fresh on my brain. My icebreaker was like, hey, do you want to spin this wheel and see if you're a petty criminal? So, like, maybe I'm not, like, the best one to answer these questions.

[C]

No, that's smooth as shit. Oh, my God. That would work so well.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, my God. So I like, I like to make a friend by asking a random, ridiculous question in a happy tone. That's my go to.

[C]

That's a very safe way to do that. That's a, That's. I feel like that's guaranteed to work.

[B]

No, I mean, it doesn't work every time, I'll tell you that. But the majority.

[C]

It would have worked on me. That sounds incredible. I might steal that. I'm going to the dog park later. I'll just start asking people if they're petty criminals. Let's see.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Wait a minute. I did wrong.

[B]

Are you a petty criminal?

[C]

I think I constantly am finding ways to almost do the right thing, and then it just, it just. Now I'm asking people if they're criminals. Whoopsies. Well, that sounds great. And by the way, I'll ask you off air, too, but I'm glad that you went to CrimeCon. We've, we've never, we haven't gone since, like, the first year that we started the podcast, so I'm curious how it's changed since. So. But yeah, I'm. And also, thank you for coming and taking time because you came here from Crime Con basically, right? You, like, came. You got in last night.

[B]

We got in last night, but I, I got a good night's sleep. I was feeling good, so, yeah, there's no worry. I, I, I, I will say my sinuses are a little irritated just because I'm not used to the mountain air and who knows what kind of germs were being spread, but I know.

[C]

Yeah, take a shot of O.J. or something.

[B]

Just, Just in case. Definitely.

[C]

Well, thank you for coming onto our, Our listeners episode. And it's October Spooky season. Do you have any plans for Spooky season? Do you? What, what do you do for Halloween each year?

[B]

Halloween is my favorite holiday of all time. So, yes. Your sweater that you're wearing right now. 10 out of 10.

[C]

My emergency Halloween costume. Yes. Thank you.

[B]

Yes, yes. I love it. So we've been throwing a Halloween party for our friends. This will be the 11th year in a row that we've done something. And every other year I will make a murder mystery party for us to do.

[C]

That's amazing.

[B]

But this year I just moved to a new house and so I think I'm just gonna keep it pretty low key. Just do a costume party. But yeah. And then trick or treating with the kids. I think me and my daughters are gonna dress up as K Pop Demon hunters. So I'm excited.

[C]

Beautiful.

[B]

Ready and. Yeah. What about you? Any good plans?

[C]

I don't know. The only plan I have is I'm at some point in October. I have to figure out the dates, but I'm. My grandma's turning 90 and so we're. I. I feel like this October has been kind of consumed with trying to plan for her party versus a Halloween situation. But because she lives in Florida and I told you I go to Universal, I. I go every year for Halloween. But since we'll be in Florida, that's the only other place with another Universal that does Halloween horror nights. So I might just do my normal Halloween stuff but make it Orlando this time.

[B]

So there you go. Yeah.

[C]

So I don't know what I'll be.

[B]

Birthday to your grandma. Gosh, 90.

[C]

I know. She's. She'll be the first. Everyone, like, hold her in your little prayers because she will be the first person in our family, I think, to make it to 90. So we go quick. We. We. You know, so I think we're all very excited. We're like, oh, let's. Let's see it happen. And I don't know how I'm gonna be dressed yet. So I don't have an answer for you on that, but K Pop Demon Hunter sounds incredible.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I can't wait. We're obsessed with that movie.

[C]

Really. I do. Is there like dances and songs you have to know for it?

[B]

Oh, well, it's a musical. It's an animated. It's. You know, they say it's for kids. It's not. It's for any of us. I love just as much as the kids do, but it's. It's really good. If you haven't seen it already, it's a K pop girl group group. And they are trying to eliminate this K Pop demon boy band. So it's really good.

[C]

I love it. So it's also very girl power.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[C]

100Amen then. Well, thank you so much for coming. And this is. I think this is our. For the first episode that's coming out for Invasion of the Host, Snatchers. Thank you again. Eva for this whole concept. Well done.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And make sure you go find Christine wherever, wherever she is in any of those many episodes. We're all going to be flip flopping around with each other for this. So yeah. Thank you everyone who is going to be involved in paroen and doing this with us. And yeah, thank you for being our first, our first guest host. Swap host Snatch Snatch.

[B]

Thank you for inviting me. I'll be a snatched host anytime.

[C]

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[B]

Excludes Massachusetts Con Las Grandes of prime big deal days. In prime big deal days.