Podcast Summary: "And That's Why We Drink"
Episode: Listener Stories: Vol. 109 with Roz Hernandez
Date: November 1, 2025
Hosts: Christine Schiefer & Em Schulz
Special Guest: Roz Hernandez
Overview
This special Halloween Listener Stories episode of "And That's Why We Drink" features guest Roz Hernandez — comedian, paranormal investigator, and host of “Ghosted! by Roz Hernandez” and the new show “Tickled to Death.” The trio dives into listener-submitted ghost photos, videos, and questions, swapping their own paranormal adventures, reflecting on the challenges of “ghost-hunting for content,” and discussing skepticism, media fakery, and the role of belief in the paranormal. The episode is spooky, hilarious, and full of candid, playful banter.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Meet Roz & Setting the Halloween Scene
- [04:04] Christine introduces Roz and sets the “Halloween special” tone.
- Roz jokes about the “ungodly hour” and shares her excitement for October — “this is like one of my months where I matter, so… I get this one and Pride month.”
- All bond over the exhaustion and giddiness of late-night (or early-morning) ghost hunting and content creation.
2. Roz’s Ghost-Hunting Escapades: Fear vs. Footage
- Roz shares stories of solo ghost-hunting, including long hours combing through “footage of nothing happening.”
- Discusses a personal haunting experience in a San Diego hotel, encountering a “creepy gambler man ghost” that was so profound it made Roz take a six-month break:
- “I felt a ghost that night, and it scared me so much… I just felt like I was in a hotel room in the pitch black with a man in San Diego that I don’t know. And I don’t like that.” [10:26]
- Roz’s lesson: “How about I just don't ghost hunt men anymore. Now I’m just looking for ladies… I did one with a nun.” [11:25]
3. The Realities (and Temptations) of Ghost-Hunting Content
- The trio discuss skepticism, content fakery, and consumer expectations:
- “So many people fake this… I started doing my research and looking through different YouTube people… There’s no way that that is happening to you every place you go.” —Roz [13:06]
- Even when real experiences happen, they rarely translate on camera (“The scariest fucking thing can be happening to you and it doesn’t translate on camera”). [12:13]
- Em and Christine share how mundane, even embarrassing, sounds can end up as “evidence” (such as Eva blowing her nose).
4. Listener Story Reactions & Paranormal Debates
Story 1: The Smelter Ghost
- [21:00-25:13] Security footage at old Overstock.com HQ (a former smelter) in Utah showing a ghostly figure pacing in the rain, sent by listener Lisa.
- Roz’s verdict: “I think that that is a ghost. I wish I had my gavel, because… I would call that one a gh[ost].” [23:58]
- All agree—the mysterious figure, setting, and context give it credibility.
Story 2: Ghost Girl Video
- [26:31-29:47] Brandy (Raven Paranormal group) sends a video from a murder site, believing they captured the spirit of a young girl; at 00:20, a shape zips across the screen.
- Christine: “I don’t like it slow. Okay, that’s—Hey, not to be a Zoinks kid again, but I’m pretty sure that was a ghost.” [29:07]
Story 3: Orb and Deer
- [31:19-32:58] Kelly’s Ring camera captures a slow-moving orb while her cat and a deer react strangely.
- Roz: “Orbs are hard, but I also think it’s fun to say ghost when you just for fun.” [32:12]
Story 4: Ghostly Selfie on a Dead Man’s Phone
- [33:39-42:10] Tommy finds a picture on their (bad) stepdad’s phone, apparently taken 3 days after his death; a “fleshy mist” in a towel mimics his figure/routine.
- “That looks very much like a ghost to me.” —Roz [40:01]
- The group reflects on the uncanny accuracy and unexplainable timing of the image.
Story 5: Pennhurst Restroom Ghost
- [43:06-51:51] Maddie shares edited photos from a Pennhurst Asylum ghost hunt—after editing exposure, a figure (“Fisher”) seemingly appears in the bathroom.
- Roz, uncertain: “I’m not seeing this one. I’m not gonna lie.” [50:25]
- Healthy skepticism, yet all agree: if it happened to them, panic would ensue.
Story 6: Dog’s Eye Reflection Ghost
- [59:06-61:56] Rachel’s photo: her dog’s eyes reflect both her fiancé and, disturbingly, a large man behind him who wasn’t present.
- Roz: “Oh, that’s horrific. Dark sided. Hey, that’s bad demon man.” [60:47]
- The group jokes about interpreting the reflection, but all agree the image is chilling.
5. Listener Q&A: Does the Use of Religious Tools Prove God Exists?
- [53:33-58:17] Lizzy asks if reliance on prayer/crosses in exorcisms “proves God is real.”
- Roz’s philosophy: “It would seem… what really works for them to get them away is you being strong in what you believe and, and using that to get rid of them… If people believe in Jesus, then Jesus will get that thing away. But also… any of that kind of stuff. I think… it’s about that conviction.” [55:03]
- Christine & Em echo that intention, belief, and the energy you project matter more than the specifics—referencing both Christianity and Wicca.
- Roz critiques the media: “So much of it has been formed… by Ed and Lorraine Warren… everything was very Catholic.” [57:32]
Notable Quotes & Moments
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Roz — on content creation:
“I have been trying to just get more content and, and edit them and, you know, find those ghosts. Yeah, totally. And I’m a one lady crew over here, so I’m like staying up all night looking through footage of nothing happening.” [05:24] -
Christine — on fake ghost content:
“One of the scariest sounds Em ever caught ended up being Eva blowing her nose.” [13:37] -
Em — on terror versus footage:
“The scariest fucking thing can be happening to you and it doesn’t translate on camera. And you’re like, well, that was for fucking nothing.” [12:13] -
Roz — on photo analysis:
“When you look carefully at it, you can see a lower back spine and even a little bit of the swelling from his beer gut. He also had shortish, curly gray hair, and the towel in question was his favorite towel.” [37:33] -
On faith in exorcism:
“I think that it’s about that conviction.” —Roz [55:03]
“It’s not necessarily because it’s, like, a crucifix—but like probably just the intention of only good here, clear out.” —Christine [55:53] -
On pets as ghost detectors:
“I mean, my dog... I just wonder if he would know if something was a ghost because he... right, if he doesn’t see it, right. He doesn’t even know if a dog who sees a ghost is, like, they're like, who’s that man in our house?” [63:07]
Timestamps of Important Segments
- [04:04] Start of Halloween/guest Roz’s intro
- [05:22] Roz’s ghost-hunting experiences
- [09:57] San Diego “gambler” ghost story
- [12:13] The pain of documenting real hauntings on video
- [13:06] Roz’s analysis of faked ghost content
- [21:00-25:13] First listener video/photo—Smelter Ghost
- [26:31-29:47] Ghost Girl murder house video
- [31:19-32:58] Orb & Deer on Ring camera
- [33:39-42:10] Ghost selfie on a dead man’s phone
- [43:06-51:51] Pennhurst Restroom ghost photo
- [53:33-58:17] Listener Q&A on God/religion’s role in the paranormal
- [59:06-61:56] Dog’s-eye-reflection ghost photo
- [65:08] Roz plugs her new podcast “Tickled to Death” & YouTube
Roz Hernandez: Plugs & Final Words
- [65:08] Roz introduces her horror game show with Paramount: Tickled to Death, and her beloved “Ghosted!” podcast.
- YouTube channel: Roz Hernandez the Haunted Doll, where Roz ghost-hunts with local guys from Grindr.
- Christine: “You are — forget Ed and Lorraine — you’re like the new… step aside!”
Tone & Takeaways
The episode is an energetic, fun, and candid exploration of real-life ghost stories and the endless gray areas of paranormal investigation. There’s as much emphasis on humor, skepticism, friendship, and the chaos of content creation as on actual spooks. Roz is both a believer and a skeptic, providing steady, good-natured analysis and plenty of laughs, while Christine and Em keep things relatable and warm.
Whether you love the paranormal, are afraid of being duped by fake content, or just want witty banter and wild stories, this episode delivers.
For more:
- Listen to “Tickled to Death” and “Ghosted! by Roz Hernandez”
- Watch Roz’s YouTube: “Roz Hernandez the Haunted Doll”
- Submit your own listener story to “And That’s Why We Drink” for a chance to be on a future episode!
