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Christine (2:24)

Oh, are we Ready?

Eva (2:25)

I guess we are. Yes.

Christine (2:27)

I was just staring at my computer, like, waiting for something to happen.

Eva (2:31)

I still wait for, like, the teacher to come into the room and go, okay, it's time to begin. But, no.

Christine (2:36)

Well, you have been taking a lot of classes, so you would be in the mindset of a student. I can understand that a little bit.

Eva (2:41)

I am. And. And my ASL class is definitely my favorite one I'm taking. But the teacher to get our attention is claps really loud. And to be fair, she is actually hard of hearing, and so I don't think she realizes how loud the clap is. And so she.

Christine (2:54)

Oh. Oh, I bet she does. Oh, I bet she does. And I bet that's why she fucking does it.

Eva (2:58)

And it works so she. She knows for sure it's working at least.

Christine (3:01)

But. Wow. I'll start just. Well, we do clap at the beginning of. Of this, and it does usually just startle Gio out of his nap. So. Yeah, try. Try to. You know, I did qigong yoga today.

Eva (3:13)

How was that? And did you go somewhere for that, or was that in home?

Christine (3:15)

I went to the Y of the ymca, and I know I'm a proud member of the YMCA now as of today. And I'm so. I. My mom has been, like, holding out on me for years. She, like, goes to the Y, and she always framed it as just like, oh, a bunch of old people. And I do, like, water aerobics. And I'm like, like, senior water aerobics. And I'm like, okay, cool. Well, I didn't know, like, you get this YMCA thing. You can go to anyone in the greater Cincinnati area. They have, like, a crazy amount of, like, classes and pools, and you can reserve everything on the app. And I'm like, what have I been missing out here? So I did qigong yoga with my mot.

Eva (3:52)

Was that fun?

Christine (3:52)

I watched. Watching her do plow Try attempt to do plow pose was really remarkable. It's the one where you lay on your back, and then you pull your. You put your toes over your head like that and hold your. Your low back. No. And, like, it's one of my favorites. And. And of course, my mom is so competitive, and she's a Leo, and she's just. She's a Leo, by the way. Me, she's a Leo sun and a Leo rising. I found out last week, and I'm like, no wonder. And so she's over there, like, trying to, like, roll herself over. I'm like, we're gonna end up in the emergency room. If you try this any, like, you don't need to do plow pose right now. It's just. You're okay.

Eva (4:28)

My mom and I are very meant to be when it comes, like, we're very different. But the second it comes to something, like doing plow pose in front of others for the first time, we'll both look at each other and go, we can. Let's just go to lunch. Let's pack up.

Christine (4:42)

I like, I'm like, mom, look what I can do. Because I just know it'll piss her right off. And she's just like, I can do it too. And I'm like, huh? And then I'm like, please stop her. You're going to hurt yourself. And she does. She's very. She's very sportive, sporty. She's more active, far more active than I am. So I'm not like, you know, dissing her for that. But like, I'm like, man, if we're going to be doing qigong and you're going to get competitive with me, like, I don't know, we're going to have a really weird spiritual experience. Like, I think this is about surrender and energy flow. But I guess if you're over there, like, trying to throw your legs over your head because I just did it and you have to prove it, it's

Eva (5:19)

fascinating to me to hear what other people will do for the sake of competition. Because, like, I, with my. If I don't know, with confidence that all of us are bad and therefore, what's the point?

Christine (5:30)

Oh, hundred percent. But, like, you could not pay me to behave that. Like, and I think I'm like, learning so much about astrology and I'm like, damn, she is such a Leo. It's a lover to death, but damn,

Eva (5:41)

like, I love a Leo.

Christine (5:43)

Tone it down.

Eva (5:44)

I love Leo. But also, I think, like, I. I just don't. I. That sounds like a hell, a day of hell to me. I'm so glad you had fun, but I'm so.

Christine (5:53)

It was delightful. And then they had these little, like. So you tap. It's sort of like that. We did tapping. It's very relaxing. Most of it, like, that was just me being, like, really annoying, you know, and, like, triggering her and like, you know, just doing triggered me.

Eva (6:06)

I would have looked at your mom, too, and been like, lunch, let's go, let's leave.

Christine (6:10)

Yeah, but it was great. We. And then you do tapping. We did a little bit like. So it's like energy flow and stuff. And they have these little, like, Tappers, and they're these kind of handled things, and they're, like, gentle, but you tap to, like, release your energy, and it feels really nice, like, almost like a massage. And my monster is just, like, swacking me on the butt with it. And I'm like, this, like, every. I'm like, we are gonna get kicked out of the YMCA of Downtown Cincinnati. And she kept going, I brought you here when you were a baby. Do you remember? And I'm like, no, I don't remember. Anyway, I had a. That was 10am I don't know what got into me today, but I don't know. I'm like, up here, the qigong really got my energy going. I'm wearing a shirt my mother got me that says murder on it, and it's a bunch of crows.

Eva (6:54)

Love it. It looks.

Christine (6:55)

Yeah.

Eva (6:55)

I was gonna comment on it when we were.

Christine (6:58)

Yeah, thanks.

Eva (6:59)

Earlier, but we were talking about quints, and I was like, I don't want to take from those clothes, you know?

Christine (7:04)

Right. This one. The rest is. Yeah. This one is a special in honor of my beautiful mother who can do plow pose. Really? Well, Good for her.

Eva (7:13)

Good for her. I was hoping to start taking some classes.

Christine (7:18)

By the way, don't tell her I said any of this. She's gonna get mad at me.

Eva (7:21)

Okay.

Christine (7:22)

Not you. I mean, you also, but everyone listening.

Eva (7:24)

Okay. I was thinking about taking, like. Like, a balance kind of class or. Oh, but I.

Christine (7:32)

Cool.

Eva (7:32)

I've yet to find one where. Because then everyone goes, oh, well, it's got yoga or Pilates. I'm like, no, no.

Christine (7:37)

Yeah, yeah. Even today, I was like, I thought this was energy flow. And, like, then the second plow pose started happening, I was like, we're all going off the rails here. Like, this is supposed to be a very unique experience of no stress or sweat.

Eva (7:50)

You know what really sets me off about yoga and Pilates is that everyone says, like, oh, no, this one's for beginners. I'm like, I have yet to even see a beginning experience

Christine (8:01)

as a yoga lover. I totally agree with you.

Eva (8:04)

Okay, thank you.

Christine (8:05)

Because I used to be petrified, and I would go to these classes because I wanted to learn, and they'd be like, it is the beginner class. And then everyone's like, now get sun salutation. I'm like, what the fuck is that?

Eva (8:15)

It's the equivalent to me of someone's, like, saying, oh, it's beginner math, and it's fucking calculus. And I'm like, what do you mean? Like, I think.

Christine (8:22)

Well, it's so. I feel like it's sort of saying, like, oh, if you've never done math before, don't worry. This is a beginner class. And they're like, all right, so everyone, let's say, what's two plus two? And it's like, well, I don't fucking know what math is. Like, it's like, it's beginner, but, like. Like, you don't even have an understanding of it. And I. I feel that way, too. And that's why I think it's getting so much more popular to do, like. And not getting. Okay, I'm, like, 10 years behind, but, like, Internet, like, yoga with Adrian, you know, all the things that, like, you know, you can access now and then. Now I can go to a yoga studio and be like, oh, I can hold my own. But at the beginning, I was like. And some people don't mind. Like, my mom's like, whatever. I'll just learn as I go. And I'm like, no, I'm gonna hide in the back and, like, do it on the Internet instead.

Eva (9:03)

I. Yeah, because, like, I. I just want. Like. I noticed I'm officially at, like, the age where, like, if I'm standing on one leg for too long, I begin to wobble. And I was like, oh, I don't love that.

Christine (9:13)

Oh, I see. Yeah, the balance goes.

Eva (9:15)

I would like to start, like, doing stretches or exercises that, like, help with that or, like, some strength training that.

Christine (9:22)

Well, I was looking into, like, tai chi, which is how I found qigong.

Eva (9:26)

Okay.

Christine (9:26)

And they're both Chinese, but I think tai chi is much more just, like, move, like, slow movement. Like, I don't think there's any. And it's a martial art, technically. Blaze. And I got to, like this discussion on martial arts. And I was like, how did I end up doing this to myself? But I was like, I'm gonna be doing martial arts just like you, because he does jiu jitsu, and he's like, yeah, I can't wait for you to beat me up. And I was like, I might. Yeah, okay. But anyway, tai chi would be maybe something you could look into, because that's very. That's why people always say, like, old people do it, but it's, like, really good for you because it's. I love doing talents, and a lot

Eva (10:03)

of, like, I love doing things that old people do. Like, I. And they always. They say it that way as if that's gonna keep me from doing it,

Christine (10:09)

but as if it's a bad thing. Right.

Eva (10:12)

Has anyone heard of bingo. That's the best. This is most fun I've ever had

Christine (10:15)

in my entire life. Anyone? Anyone?

Eva (10:19)

No, I. Thank you for suggesting that, because I. I need to do something, but I. The last thing I will do if I sign up for a yoga class, I'm going to one and never doing it again. Like, it's just. It's.

Christine (10:30)

Yeah.

Eva (10:31)

Not my idea of fun.

Christine (10:33)

It took me many years to get comfortable with going to yoga classes, like, out of the blue. But, yeah, tai chi might be. I mean, I'm going to look into it myself, too. I've been wanting to find a class on it, but I, like, I want

Eva (10:44)

to take a class that was essentially the first five minutes of PE Class every day where it was like, oh, let's sit on the ground and try to touch our toes. That's kind of just what I want. Like, I just.

Christine (10:51)

Oh, yeah. Just like. So maybe instead of senior, you go

Eva (10:53)

to preschool, I just go like, Billy Madison. Is there a spot for me?

Christine (10:58)

Yeah, Billy Madison. You just go to, like, the ymca K Kids club. They do have a kids club.

Eva (11:04)

And you just. We can't wait.

Christine (11:05)

You have pro. Oh, yeah. I was gonna say you do have a membership card. Then I was like, never mind. You're going to jail if you try this.

Eva (11:11)

Maybe I'll just like, I'll just pretend I brought a kid and I'll just like, I'll watch from the window. No, that's. That's creepy too.

Christine (11:17)

Yeah, just kidding. But you can babysit Leona and then just be like, let's learn together. And I know.

Eva (11:23)

I feel like I would actually benefit from testing my own skills on Wobbly Mountain, because the whole point is I'm a little wobbly.

Christine (11:30)

Maybe she needs to teach a class.

Eva (11:32)

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

Christine (11:34)

Okay. Okay. See, we're going. We're getting things going. Happy April 1st. It's April Fool's Day. Can't you tell? We're the biggest fools of all.

Eva (11:44)

We. I definitely forgot that we were doing a listeners episode for a second.

Christine (11:47)

I guess I did, too. And I bullied my mom a little bit and I'm like, oops, April Fools. I was just kidding.

Eva (11:53)

She did.

Christine (11:54)

Really? It was all a joke. The real April Fools. It's opposite.

Eva (11:58)

If we should. If we did do a true April Fool's episode, we should have just not done stories and just kept talking about Tai Chi for 45 minutes and then hung up and.

Christine (12:06)

Oh, that would have been really funny. Is it too Late to just keep talking about martial arts and what makes a martial art. Oh, my God.

Eva (12:15)

Anyway, well, happy April 1st to everybody. This is my annual reminder that my mom's birthday is tomorrow and I need to call her.

Christine (12:23)

Oh, she's 4:2. Yes.

Eva (12:25)

Because she's an Aries through and through. I have yet to do her big three, but I have a feeling she's a triple Aries.

Christine (12:29)

I was gonna say. I don't think you need to, because as discussed, we got. Yeah, why am I talking about Leos? We got Aries season here. We're in April. Come on, Christine, get it together. Aries, also a frightening but enjoyable sign to me. We really gas each other up. Those Geminis and those Aries. It's a. It's quite a combination. Renee, my stepmother, they're all Aries. Yeah, it's there.

Eva (12:54)

I have no characters. I have one friend who's an Aries Taurus cusp. And boy did they terrify me.

Christine (12:59)

But, oh, yeah, that's a little scary. I don't really head into that Taurus territory.

Eva (13:05)

It's just intense and stubborn and both are like, kind of not afraid to be mean. And I'm like, oh, my God.

Christine (13:10)

And I'm just like totally airheaded and two faced and I'm like, I'm sorry, we're not gonna get along. I think you're not gonna like where I'm at.

Eva (13:17)

Well, I. Yes. Happy April 1st. We have some stories for you. And this month, the topic was picked by. Which listener? Which listener? I'm trying to click it. Oh, our patron named Taylor. She her. Thank you, Taylor, for picking our topic this month. Which would you like to announce it, Christine? It feels very up your alley.

Christine (13:36)

I can't find it.

Eva (13:37)

It is.

Christine (13:37)

I mean, I don't.

Eva (13:38)

I'll do it. Yeah, you ready? Just. Just react really big.

Christine (13:42)

Okay.

Eva (13:42)

The topic this month chosen by Taylor. She her.

Christine (13:45)

Yep, yep.

Eva (13:46)

Aliens and UFO encounters.

Christine (13:49)

No. Okay, I'm amped. Hell yeah.

Eva (13:52)

So we have several picked by Taylor, but vetted by Eva. Thank you so much to both of you for this month's episode.

Christine (14:01)

Yes. Okay, I guess. Should I go first?

Eva (14:03)

I don't know. Yes. Are you drinking anything, Christine?

Christine (14:05)

Oh, you know, I left. I was drinking my water. I don't know if you heard. I did qigong yoga today and I was drinking water and now I. I left it downstairs, so it. My. My cup is empty. How about you? My cup?

Eva (14:18)

Well, I'm actually drinking oven and out of. Let me figure out how to use words. Jesus Christ. I'm Drinking out of. And that's why we drink mug.

Christine (14:26)

That. That is a heart. That's a tongue twister.

Eva (14:28)

So drinking out of. And then that's why we. And. And that's why we drink mug.

Christine (14:32)

Yeah, that's hard.

Eva (14:32)

And you can't tell because it is my personal favorite where it's the. The heat changes it. You can see kind of by the light, but so it's an EMF detector.

Christine (14:40)

And when.

Eva (14:41)

Oh, when the mug is hot, a ghost appears and the meter starts having all these lights.

Christine (14:45)

This was an M original, wasn't it?

Eva (14:47)

I did design this.

Christine (14:48)

Yeah, m designed this. And this is like the.

Eva (14:50)

It's really kick ass and on the back it's black. But then when it's hot, as you can see, and that's where you Dr. Appears. It's a.

Christine (14:57)

Do you know that I think I have that in my cabinet, but I. It's faced the wrong way. And I just think it's a black mug. I'm just realizing, like, I'm pretty sure it's at the top of my cabinet. And I. As. I'm like, what is that mug up there? Well, that's a cool mug.

Eva (15:08)

I love this mug. I think it's such a good idea. Shockingly, it. Nobody else seemed to be impressed by it. Like, not. Not I'm saying, like, it's never really like sold out the way in my mind it would have. But.

Christine (15:17)

But if you want ahead of your time. An unrecognized genius.

Eva (15:20)

I think it's just so funny. But. So it was. The ghost was here for a while. But the tea.

Christine (15:26)

Do you know what I think we need to do with. Is make it bigger. I don't ever go for the little mugs. Like, they're too little.

Eva (15:32)

Now you're on to something. Because I feel too the one thing.

Christine (15:34)

Because otherwise I would have figured out what that mug at the top of the shelf was. I would have been curious. But it's so small that I was like, well, I kind of want my big mugs.

Eva (15:41)

The one thing I hate about this is that I love a tiny. I want a big, cozy papa bear mug. You know what I'm saying?

Christine (15:49)

Okay, so maybe we do a new one where we incorporate your same design, but we just like do a bigger mug and then maybe we'll finally.

Eva (15:56)

You know what we should do, Christine?

Christine (15:57)

What should we do?

Eva (15:58)

We should have three mugs of three different sizes. But see, this is why I'm not allowed to suggest merch anymore.

Christine (16:02)

Because this is why Katie has cut us out of all of the planning sessions, because this is how we behave. That's not true, but I was gonna say Katie did not do that, but we deserve to be cut out of the meeting.

Eva (16:11)

But what if we had three different coffee mugs with three different sizes? They each have a different. A piece of equipment, and they can buy the ghost hunters collection, and they all do different things.

Christine (16:22)

Oh, so you'd have an espresso. What would the espresso cup be?

Eva (16:26)

Oh, that'd be itty bitty. I don't know, maybe like a little, like, sound like. Like a wavelength. Like a voice.

Christine (16:31)

Oh, that's cute.

Eva (16:32)

And then the big one could be, like, a REM pod or, like, the ovulus. And a word comes up. Oh, it could be an ovulus. And it says. And that's why we drink.

Christine (16:39)

Ah. Oh, and obvious. Okay. An obvious is good. And then also, like, what about. So we have emf. That's excellent. We could do, like, Ouija. Like. Like something shows up. But that's kind of our logo.

Eva (16:50)

I like it anyway.

Christine (16:52)

Yeah.

Eva (16:53)

Anyway.

Christine (16:53)

Hey, this is an April Fool's episode. We really are just kind of making it that which I love for us.

Eva (16:58)

If anybody has merch requests, by the way, please comment below.

Christine (17:02)

We would love to know.

Eva (17:03)

We would love to have merch that you want.

Christine (17:06)

Yeah. I mean, we want merch. We want first and foremost, but secondary to that, we want to do what you want to do also.

Eva (17:13)

Amen. So please send us your suggestions, and if you like the ghost hunters collection, the idea. Please, please. Because I love the bug so much.

Christine (17:22)

I find it to be an excellent idea.

Eva (17:23)

Thank you.

Christine (17:25)

And then.

Eva (17:25)

And fun fact, when I'm done with this, I have a backup tea, so we're.

Christine (17:29)

Wait. What are you drinking in there, by the way?

Eva (17:30)

Oh, Allison made me tea this morning. Very kind.

Christine (17:32)

Oh, lovely.

Eva (17:33)

It's obviously cold now because the ghost has left.

Christine (17:35)

Yeah.

Eva (17:35)

And then I.

Christine (17:36)

The ghost has left.

Eva (17:37)

And then I pulled a future M gift for myself when I was at the gas station. I thought, tomorrow, when I look in the fridge, I'm gonna be really excited when this is there. So I.

Christine (17:45)

Do you know how badly I want that right now? That would be like. That would hit the spot just to make things. Arizona.

Eva (17:51)

I'll do.

Christine (17:52)

Yeah, thanks.

Eva (17:52)

It's ready.

Christine (17:54)

It's one of those green ones with the little jasmine flowers or whatever.

Eva (17:57)

The Arizona teas. Yeah.

Christine (17:59)

Yeah.

Eva (17:59)

All right. Let's crack into it, Christine.

Christine (18:02)

Let's crack into it.

Eva (18:04)

Ah, that was nice.

Christine (18:05)

I felt. Ah, that felt nice. But now I'm just thirsty. Okay, okay, okay. This is not a joke. This is not a drill. I just realized I didn't do this on purpose. Okay. This beautiful cashmere robe that I'm wearing. Quince. These bad boys that I just got, Quince35. And they look like the brand name ones I will not name. And they're just as comfortable because I've owned both.

Eva (18:33)

Allison has been wearing all of her Quinn stuff. She just. When she got back, first thing I did, I said, shopping spree. Go to Quinn's. Get. Get whatever you want. Buy yourself some pretty. And. And you know what? She's been wearing only quints. And she looks slamming.

Christine (18:49)

It's, like, luxurious, but it's afford, like, really affordable. And so you're like, oh, it's good quality. My everyday, like, silver earrings are quints. And they're the only ones that do not bother my ears. We are just big fans of quints over here. They use ethical factories and they cut out the middlemen. So you're paying for quality but not the brand markup that you're usually paying for.

Eva (19:08)

Ex. Exactly right. And you look as cozy as Christine. Hello.

Christine (19:12)

And I'm cozy.

Eva (19:13)

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Eva (20:05)

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Christine (20:13)

I know. Dang it.

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Eva (20:35)

Okay. Would you like to do the honors and read the first one? Christine?

Christine (20:39)

I would love to. This story was sent in by Alicia she her and it is called my UFO slash E T experience. I was roughly a mere 12 years old and my family had weekly Sunday night Bible studies. I grew up Catholic. We were reading Revelations in our dining room. By the way, that's an intense thing to be reading in your dining room. That's like, it's not even very Catholic. That's very like, I don't know, evangelical. Like Revelations is where the world like ends.

Eva (21:12)

Oh, okay.

Christine (21:13)

Yeah, that's the chapter of the Old Testament where it's like fiery brimstone. You know, it's. Anyway, we were reading Revelations in our dining room, which faced the glass door that led to our back patio. I kept hearing light tapping on the door. I looked over and saw what looked like a slender, normal, proportioned creature in the nude. It definitely was not human as from what I remember, it walked strangely and its skin was opaque. The weird part starts here.

Eva (21:47)

I wonder how wrong the weird part started earlier.

Christine (21:50)

Yeah, the weird part starts here. I didn't even catch that. I wonder if by its skin was opaque that she means like its skin was. See, like transparent.

Eva (22:00)

Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me.

Christine (22:02)

Yuck. The weird part starts here. Okay, everybody, as we can all agree, this is just a normal evening of reading Revelations at the dinner table with your Catholic family and seeing a see through slender man out the door. Okay, the weird part starts here. My parents took Bible study seriously and would not let us kids get distracted or let us leave the table unless for a potty break. As I walk toward the back door, the creature runs away. I open the door and run through my backyard looking for it, but found nothing. When I came back at least 30 minutes later, oh my God. My family hadn't even noticed I was gone.

Eva (22:42)

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Christine (22:46)

I will never know what I saw. Also, my brother accidentally summoned a demon. But that's a story for another time. And that's the end. I Classic.

Eva (22:55)

So it seems like I would imagine the alien UFO experience here is that the parents like the family Lost time and like, didn't even notice, but like, it wanted. It wanted. Right? Am I. That feels.

Christine (23:11)

I mean, that's what I think. If like your family was just like in this like trance almost or like missing time. Yeah, Yako. And to be reading Revelations, I mean, really, that is like a very bizarre experience.

Eva (23:27)

I imagine it certainly set the scene.

Christine (23:30)

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it would match tonally for sure.

Eva (23:33)

Well, we have another story. This is from McKenna and I think also Christian. At the bottom it says Christian and McKenna. So this is from the two of them. It is called Aliens crashed our wedding. Oh my. Okay.

Christine (23:52)

Oh my, oh my. Drama.

Eva (23:53)

This is why I don't believe in marriage, everybody. Because those aliens.

Christine (23:57)

Oh my gosh. Add it to the list.

Eva (23:59)

I know, I know. So McKenna says hello, beautiful humans and fur babies. My name is McKenna. I've been listening to your show for a while now and I introduced my new husband to your show a while ago and we've both been obsessed. So this last weekend we got married. And by this last weekend, Congratulations.

Christine (24:16)

It was 21.

Eva (24:18)

It was pre covered.

Christine (24:19)

Okay. Oh my God. Okay. Wow. This is. Wow. Okay, this is an old one in

Eva (24:24)

2019, by the way.

Christine (24:25)

Congratulations.

Eva (24:26)

2019 means that we, like, we were only two years into this.

Christine (24:29)

What if they're divorced?

Eva (24:30)

Oh, Christian.

Christine (24:32)

I mean, what did you do? I don't know. I'm sorry. I. I hope you're still together and happy. And if you're not together, I hope you're happy either way.

Eva (24:40)

Well, this is extra fun because I was just in Idaho last week. It says we are currently living in Idaho.

Christine (24:47)

Omg.

Eva (24:48)

I don't know where you are now, but you were in Idaho. Then while Christian finishes up school, our wedding was in Nashville and we decided that we would road trip from Idaho to Nashville, which was so much driving. We had been driving non stop. It was night and I'm hella blind. So Christian was driving and I was asleep in the passenger seat. All of a sudden he starts hitting my leg going, babe, babe, look. And I grumpily sit up and he is pointing out the window and right in front of us are these weird lights in the sky. Since Christian saw it best, here is how he describes it. We saw four lights directly in front of us. They are in a square shape and maybe it was a rhombus, which is so funny because apparently this is Christian's description and does not know about our issue with rhombuses. Oh, okay.

Christine (25:34)

Okay, okay. Wow. Oh, well, he's just. That's a tricky, tricky spot.

Eva (25:38)

Tricky Spot. I'm having a hard time understanding the rhombus shape.

Christine (25:42)

Not sure about this anymore.

Eva (25:43)

Shapes are hard, but at. At first, I thought it was a plane taking off because it was slightly angled. But the longer I looked at, the more I realized it wasn't moving. So it was like a square tilted.

Christine (25:54)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you mean a rhombus?

Eva (25:59)

Three of the lights were solid white, and one that looked like it was. The tail had the same solid white light, but it was also. It also had blue and red blinking lights next to it. Since it wasn't moving, it was hard to judge how far away it was. But as we got closer, I realized it was only about 50ft off the ground. When we got even closer, the only thing we could see were the lights and something really dark connected to them, but we couldn't make out a shape like a bridge or something to each stuff. Once we were almost underneath it, the lights all shifted and I started to slow down. I may have started drifting into the lane to my left because. Is this still. This is still fucking crush and talking. Oh, my God.

Christine (26:43)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Eva (26:44)

I may have started drifting into the lane to my left because I was obviously distracted. And a semi truck honked and drove past us. This immediately brought my attention back to the road so I could straighten out. And when I looked back in the rearview mirror, the lights were gone.

Christine (26:58)

Oh, my God. I thought you were gonna get abducted. I was so scared.

Eva (27:00)

Yeah, I feel like maybe that semi truck saved you from getting abducted.

Christine (27:06)

It felt like that was the next step.

Eva (27:09)

It was gearing up.

Christine (27:11)

Mm. Whoa. That's creepy.

Eva (27:14)

So then McKenna says, Here is why this is interesting. I don't need you to tell me that.

Christine (27:18)

What is wrong with you people? We are very impressed already at the beginning of your stories, I promise.

Eva (27:23)

As this was happening, I was like, okay, where are we? We passed a sign that said, were we Fort C? And I didn't catch what the other word was, but I knew it started with a C. We thought, okay, it had to have been an army base because it was called Fort Whatever. So we thought maybe they were drones. But why are. Why would the army have the drones flying so low? Plus, they weren't even over the army base just next to it. Then we were like, maybe someone is using the drones to spy on the army base. So then I thought, oh, we just found, like, a spy, or maybe people testing out their ways to get into Area 51. Anyways, we forgot about this whole thing and didn't think anything of it until yesterday. Slash. Today, for our honeymoon, we are driving down Route 66, and on our way, we passed the place where we saw this ufo, but we found. We found out that it was Fort Campbell that we passed. So I googled Fort Campbell aliens, and this place got involved with the Hopkinsville alien encounter from episode 105.

Christine (28:21)

Oh, my God. And you didn't even, like, know at the time?

Eva (28:25)

What if these were the Same aliens from 1955 during the Hopkinsville alien encounter, Those aliens could possibly be dead. I'm not remembering the story correctly. Plus, I really don't know what the common alien lifespan is, but it could be aliens, drones, sleep deprivation. I'm more inclined to lean aliens. It was some spooky ass. Love the podcast and we are especially loving the increase of alien stories. Good to know. Good to know. So.

Christine (28:49)

Hell yeah. Well, that was in 2019. I don't know. I don't know if you're still around listening to the show.

Eva (28:56)

We've been doing lot of Zack Bagans recently, so I'll have to get back on. True.

Christine (29:00)

How do you feel about that direction? Let us know in six years. We'll find out. Oh, my Lord. That was a doozy. I don't. So I do kind of dream of that, like, sometimes Blaze and I are driving at night on a road trip, and I'm like, I hope we see a ufo. Like, I'm like, that would be so cool. I do. I want to see one so bad, and I want it Blaze to see one too. I mean, I did see one in Egypt, but it felt like, of course I did. Like, that was a very. But I want. I want Blaze to see a ufo because I want to be like, see.

Eva (29:30)

Yeah, I understand that for sure. I. The day that Allison sees a ghost, honestly, it might be the scary state of my life. Because I'm like, oh, that means it's real for sure, right?

Christine (29:38)

It was like a tether to re. To like some sort of safety net where. Yeah, I totally agree. It's like you're the one who's supposed to be level headed here. Yeah.

Eva (29:45)

100.

Christine (29:47)

Okay. So thank you for that. I have another story. This one's. Let's see, this one's from Alex and. Okay, this is cracking me up. Oh, my God. Tell me this is from 2017.

Eva (30:05)

I think.

Christine (30:06)

Do you know how I know?

Eva (30:07)

How?

Christine (30:08)

Because I re either Eva or. Oh, wait, no, 2018. Okay, hold on. November 2017 says, Hey, I don't have anything paranormal, but I have a pretty creepy alien story if you guys want to hear It. I'll send it. And we said, hey, Alexander, of course we do send it in Love at WWD. And then this was sent to us January of 2018. Wow.

Eva (30:33)

Wow. January 2018. It wasn't even a full year of the podcast yet.

Christine (30:38)

Wow. And I'm so sorry. I'm reading now. The opening says do not use my name if you use this on the podcast. So I'm so sorry. Jack, do you think you could do a little.

Eva (30:49)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Christine (30:50)

Or just cut it out or whatever's easiest. You could just silence it if you want. Wow. My bad. Okay, so I mean that again, that was like eight years ago. But I just for to be safe,

Eva (31:02)

somewhere their name, their ears just went. What happened?

Christine (31:05)

Oh, they're like, what did, what did that stupid podcast do this time after they didn't that they ignored my email for eight years and then decided to get involved. Oh my God. Okay. I love how I'm like, yes, of course we want your story. Send it in. And then like they send it in

Eva (31:22)

in 2026, we finally read it.

Christine (31:24)

Oh, we're like, wow, thanks for this. Okay.

Eva (31:27)

Oh my God.

Christine (31:29)

Oh my God. It says awesome. Well, that was in response to my last email. I said, sure, send it on in. And this person says, awesome. Please don't use my name or anything if you guys use this on the podcast because my wife's whole family gets super freaked out when it gets brought up and I don't want them to know that I sent this to you.

Eva (31:52)

Oh my God. Okay.

Christine (31:54)

Before my wife and I were married, she told me that her mom has this weird bump on her leg. Oh, fuck me, I'm already freaked out. My wife's dad was burned really badly when she was a kid and had to get a lot of MRIs. She has had this little bump of scar tissue on her thigh that hurts if she touches it because it's all wrapped in the nerves in her leg. This is probably why I didn't read it. I probably was like, ah. The weird thing is there is no incision anywhere. It's just like this bump of scar tissue, almost like a skin graft. It also turns out her brother and dad have the same thing on their legs. So she was sitting with my father in law during an MRI and her leg was pulled toward the magnets and she fell out of her chair. What?

Eva (32:44)

So it's magnetic. There's a magnet in there, A very

Christine (32:48)

strong one at that. If it's pulling you out of a

Eva (32:51)

chair by the leg, not to be like so disgusting. But I feel like if I had enough alcohol in me, I would have just taken an exacto knife and just sliced that bitch.

Christine (32:59)

Totally.

Eva (33:00)

And just been like, what the is going on?

Christine (33:02)

But also then, like, why have they not noticed in the past that, like, keys are not keys? What's magnetic? I don't know. A magnet? Is it 2018 again? I feel like it's 2018.

Eva (33:17)

Yeah, we're channeling ourselves. Yeah.

Christine (33:19)

Oh, my God. But, yeah, like, wouldn't you have noticed that, like, stuff gets attached to it? Maybe things were not. Maybe there weren't as many magnets back then. How many magnets were there? Is there, like, an inflation calculator counting them? Well, anyway, so this is crazy. All right, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to discount their story, by the way. I'm just. I'm just, like, thinking aloud here. Okay, so she was sitting with her father in law during an mri, and her leg was pulled toward the magnets and she fell out of her chair. So this thing is super magnetic. Anyway, so she then told me when she used to be a nurse, she got home from work and took a bath. She remembers getting in the bath, and in the skylight above the bath, she saw two lights circling in weird patterns. All of their dogs ran to the windows in the living room and were going nuts. She got out of the bath to go check it out. She remembers seeing the lights again outside the windows of the living room. The next thing she remembered after that was waking up in the bath and the water was freezing. Oh, ew. So she went to look probably, like, in a towel, right? And then, like, woke up in a cold bath. That's the next thing you remember?

Eva (34:32)

Horrifying. Horrifying.

Christine (34:34)

I would never take a bath again. I don't think I could do it. I think I would be, like, bass her out.

Eva (34:37)

Yeah. 100.

Christine (34:40)

I don't like that. You go look out the window and that's enough for it to take you. The next thing she remembered after that was waking up in the bath and the water was freezing. Ugh. I can be a pretty big skeptic. So when I first heard this, I thought she fell asleep or something. But my wife and her dad both had similar experiences together, but that's a different story. I'm thinking to myself, whatever this is probably, and that the thing in her leg was some shrapnel from a mowing accident or something. It's like a really specific, specific, but, like, interesting angle.

Eva (35:10)

I think we're glossing over the fact that there was Clearly a lawnmower incident at some point.

Christine (35:15)

Well, I think they're envisioning a lawnmower. I don't think that they're saying there was a lawnmower incident. I think they're saying, like, I'm sure there was just some lawnmower incident that caused this. You know, like as. As happens to the best of us, you know, as happens to three members of a family, you know, and then they forget. Right. So anyway, I listened to a bunch of different podcasts and I think it was on Mysterious Universe or something where they said that alien implants give. Give off an electrical signal. I thought it would be fun to test it.

Eva (35:46)

Jesus. Oh my God, I love it.

Christine (35:47)

Imagine your mother in law. No wonder you don't want me saying your name. Oh my God. What are you gonna do to your poor mother in law? Her dad works on motorcycles and had this electric. So their father in law works on motorcycles and had this electrical signal tester thing for engine batteries. We went around testing cell phones, TVs, computers, and lights. Most registered at about 0.3 to 0.6 watts. Put it on her leg. Nothing. Move it closer to the bump. Nothing. Put it right over the bump. 30 watts.

Eva (36:22)

Cut it out. Literally cut. Like, cut it.

Christine (36:25)

No, cut it. Cut it with. With a sharp. Sharp, sharp.

Eva (36:27)

Like that's the day it. It's. It. Whoopsies. I'll. It'll hurt, but I'm of my leg. Whoopsies.

Christine (36:33)

Open the big craft bucket we all have with an X acto knife that's just floating around loosey goosey. Carefully pull it out and then slice that out.

Eva (36:41)

I would, I'd be. And also do it.

Christine (36:43)

I would do it. I would do it.

Eva (36:45)

I would at least go to a doctor and like sign something. Be like, I need you to sign. No, actually, I wouldn't. Because what if it has to be something I do on my own. First of all, it's totally.

Christine (36:52)

You would have to do it alone.

Eva (36:53)

It's an intimate experience. And also you have to get lidocaine. But what if a doctor. What if the doctor started cutting and then you find out that like, it's like this metal is like woven into your skeletal system and now the government's involved. Like, you don't want that.

Christine (37:05)

And then you got to do it with the government.

Eva (37:08)

O. Yeah, I've seen E.T. they're not friendly.

Christine (37:11)

Yeah.

Eva (37:11)

About this.

Christine (37:12)

And I bet you these trackers, they know when they're being like, tampered with. I don't know.

Eva (37:15)

Yeah, that's a great Question too. It's like, I feel like the aliens are like, well, surely if we put it under, under their skin, then they're not.

Christine (37:22)

It's like an anti theft tag, you know, like maybe it has an ink thing in it. It's going to explode. Ink everywhere. And then you got a mess on your.

Eva (37:28)

Well, that's probably why I would imagine we're obviously.

Christine (37:30)

Besides the blood, by the way, that you're just, just cutting out your life. Besides all the blood, you've also got a mess of ink on your hands.

Eva (37:36)

Well, you just throw a, throw a cloth down. We've all seen a true crime movie.

Christine (37:39)

But listen, we've all been there.

Eva (37:41)

Here's my thought though, is like of course if aliens did this, of course they made it a bundle of nerves around it. So you certainly would never cut it out.

Christine (37:49)

Oh, oh, oh, oh, that's gross.

Eva (37:51)

I feel like that was their anti theft situation there where they're like, well, we'll make it incredibly painful to even barely touch. So they'll never cut it out. Out.

Christine (37:58)

Just like put it way in there.

Eva (38:00)

That's. You just gotta be so out of control drunk. You just gotta be so. I won't remember.

Christine (38:06)

Dems. Don't listen to this pot. Don't listen for any medical advice people or any advice actually, frankly, any advice.

Eva (38:12)

Sorry. My dad does a lot of things just, just very drunk just to help himself medically.

Christine (38:18)

He also, and I. He lives also in the woods.

Eva (38:20)

He lives in the woods. One time he got pecked by a, a, a chicken or a rooster in the eyeball and then he just.

Christine (38:26)

Oh my.

Eva (38:27)

He was like. The only way through it was just be really drunk until it healed up.

Christine (38:31)

Oh my God.

Eva (38:33)

So my, my only frame of reference is like just do something to forget. So yeah, do that. Cut your leg. That's obviously my medical advice here.

Christine (38:42)

Don't cut your mother, don't cut your legs. Don't cut anything. Hey, actually is the advice ever. Don't do that.

Eva (38:48)

Here's the beautiful thing about this episode. I can say whatever I want because it's April Fools. You know, it's opposite day.

Christine (38:53)

Oh, it's all a joke. That's right. We're doct kidding. It's April Fools. Seriously. Do not cut open your body. That is not what we're advising. But I think if I think you're right, Em, I would probably spiral myself into a place where I would like, have to see what it is. Like have to.

Eva (39:09)

I, I think so. I think so. And like at the very least that's just. That's get an X.

Christine (39:13)

Right? I don't advise that behavior, but that's what I would do.

Eva (39:16)

I think in all reality, I do not condone anything I just said. However, if you were to do it, I absolutely condone you emailing us and telling us your findings.

Christine (39:25)

Oh, my God. Okay. No, no, I don't.

Eva (39:28)

All right. Nope, I know.

Christine (39:29)

Not at all. Okay, so would they move it over the thing? 30. Okay, so we're going. 0.3.6 watts all the way to 30 at this one little point.

Eva (39:40)

Insane.

Christine (39:40)

This thing in her leg gives off a signal 100 times stronger than a cell phone. CB radios transmit at, like. I mean, I'm just taking this person's word for it. I'm not gonna Google this.

Eva (39:52)

It's 100.

Christine (39:53)

I'm just gonna believe it. CB radios transmit at, like 3 to 4 watts. So this thing is about the size of a pea, magnetic and putting out an electrical signal. She won't let any doctor remove it, despite a lot of doctors asking to biopsy it. Probably. I mean, you have a growth or like a abnormality. Like, they probably want to make sure it's not cancerous or something. Let's see. She will not let a doctor biopsy it. Apparently, with other cases of alien implants, the people affected die very soon after it gets removed.

Eva (40:24)

I didn't even think about.

Christine (40:26)

Don't cut it out, don't cut it

Eva (40:27)

out, don't cut it out. I totally.

Christine (40:30)

Everything I said, fools, April fool.

Eva (40:34)

It's all backwards. It's opposite day.

Christine (40:37)

Jesus Christ.

Eva (40:38)

I didn't even think about that because I would think, oh, surely my. I'm sure this person has thought of every horrible situation with this.

Christine (40:46)

Sure, of course I should have thought about.

Eva (40:49)

But my first thought is like, oh, if this thing is that strong of a signal, like, am I slowly killing myself by having this in me and, like, walking around with this, like, huge ass battery on my body all the time. But then if you get it removed, then people apparently don't survive that either. So it's like, well, you're just damned if you do. Damn if you don't.

Christine (41:08)

Yeah, you're kind of just screw or. Yeah, I guess you just don't want to think about it.

Eva (41:13)

Yeah. Oh, no wonder. Another reason the name should not.

Christine (41:15)

It's all making sense now. Yeah, it's all making sense.

Eva (41:18)

Oops.

Christine (41:19)

I'm writing this while I'm at work. So I'm writing super quick, but I think I covered most all of it. There is probably some other explanation, but My wife's whole family has had weird UFOs experiences. They live out in the country and I've seen lights out there too, that I can't really explain. There is a scar tissue bump on her leg that she got after that weird bath story. And there is no incision. It's insanely magnetic and gives out a huge. So it was after that bath that it happened? I didn't realize that. And gives out a huge electrical signal. I don't know what it is, but it's freaky as. Maybe it's like a GPS tracker. Like we put on animals to track their movement. Thanks for reading. I have some other stuff I'll probably submit for later listener submissions, but this is one of my favorites. Alex. I don't think they need trackers. I feel like they know where. Like gps. I don't think they need gps.

Eva (42:02)

Maybe it's some sort of, like. I mean, I guess it's like maybe their version of a tracker. But it would make. It would make sense why it's so strong if they have to connect it between planets, you know, so, like, through outer space.

Christine (42:14)

Yeah.

Eva (42:14)

Oh, that's so eerie.

Christine (42:16)

Well, apparently we could have scared ourselves shitless eight years ago, but we'll do it now instead, right?

Eva (42:21)

We'll always find a time.

Christine (42:23)

We'll always find a way. Oh, I was looking for the perfect thing. I. I thought. I thought. Are you. Are you also looking for the perfect thing for your home?

Eva (42:32)

I found the perfect thing.

Christine (42:33)

Yeah. Oh, so did I. Oh, my God. Congrats.

Eva (42:36)

Yeah. I know you. No, you. No, you.

Christine (42:38)

Let me guess. You shopped at Wayfair.

Eva (42:40)

I shopped at Wayfair. As you know, we're building out the spooky Z.

Christine (42:43)

Yes. Oh, already?

Eva (42:45)

We painted it to all be like that dark foresty, like, like, you know, grandpapa's study green. I needed a cobblestone fireplace. Wayfair said we have options. One of them looked very witchy Cottage. And it fits perfectly in there. On a chilly rainy day, it's gonna be the exact place you wanna snuggle up.

Christine (43:05)

I mean, seriously, it's remarkable because, like, if you also need a beautiful arch to like a console table, but it's really narrow and it's like real wood and it's just beautiful. And it's like this oak. Okay, it doesn't matter. Matter the details, but just trust me. It's gorgeous. That's simple. It's not as exciting as a witchy brew, but, you know, if you need that, they got it. If you need a Witchy cauldron. Room for grandpapa's study. You got. They got that, too.

Eva (43:29)

Yeah. If. It's quite a range. You could have. Literally. They have just chairs and tables. They also have cottagey cobblestone places. Yeah, I mean, they have it. They have it all. Fine furniture, decor, and essentials that fit your unique style and budget. Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home.

Christine (43:45)

That's W-A-Y-F-A-I-R.com Wayfair Every style, every home.

Eva (43:50)

I just came back from Idaho. I got this little stuffed potato. I was very excited about it. The second I left it on my counter, I turned around and I went back to the counter, it was gone. Hank ate the potato. Usually I'm very proud of him for eating things like potatoes, but this one I was pissed about, and I was like, oh, I. It was small enough for. I was like, maybe he choked. What do I do? Do I need to take him to a doctor? It was a medical. Yes.

Christine (44:12)

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Eva (45:05)

This is a paid advertisement. Insurance is underwritten by either Independence American Insurance Company or United States Fire Insurance Company and produced by PTZ Insurance Agency Ltd. The ASP PCA is not insurer and is not engaged in the business of insurance. This is from Virginia. She.

Christine (45:21)

Her.

Eva (45:21)

Thank you for normalizing pronouns. Oh, Virginia. This is a recent story. And yet I recognize Virginia's email address. I think Virginia's been around for quite some time with us.

Christine (45:35)

Oh, really? You recognize her?

Eva (45:37)

Okay, that's how long of a listener I think they are that I recognize. The email was from when we. When we were reading the emails.

Christine (45:44)

My gosh.

Eva (45:45)

Or maybe, like, maybe there's. It's also their, like, Instagram handle, and I see it sometimes, but.

Christine (45:50)

So you've probably just seen them around for a long time then.

Eva (45:52)

Yeah, we go way back, me and Virginia.

Christine (45:54)

We go way back. Virginia. Yeah.

Eva (45:55)

Va.

Christine (45:56)

Okay, well, you do actually, this did live there.

Eva (45:58)

The subject is, was I almost abducted by aliens in West Virginia?

Christine (46:04)

Absolutely.

Eva (46:05)

Absolutely.

Christine (46:06)

West Virginia, I feel like, is the most alien place.

Eva (46:09)

Agreed.

Christine (46:09)

Like, the most likely place to get abducted, you know, was driving through there. Like, it's so dark. It's so, like, eerie.

Eva (46:15)

I have yet to go. I lived on the. I shared a border with West Virginia my whole life. Never been to West Virginia.

Christine (46:22)

Oh, it is a cool and creepy and spooky Appalachian dream slash night.

Eva (46:28)

I have plans around, like, Christmas with one of my friends to go do a West Virginia trip, and I am.

Christine (46:35)

Oh, so is that on your state then? Like, your state?

Eva (46:38)

Oh, which I. I thought everything was just the flyovers, but then I was doing. I. I guess I've technically been in West Virginia for a day. I. Like, we stopped in there, but, like, I want to have, like, a true

Christine (46:48)

memory in West Virginia to, like, experience it.

Eva (46:51)

So technically it's not on the list of priority states, but.

Christine (46:54)

Oh, it is so beautiful.

Eva (46:56)

But I have, like.

Christine (46:56)

It's so beautiful.

Eva (46:57)

Like, I've been in Nashville. Like, I've driven through. Or like, we had like, a show in Nashville, but, like, I want to have, like, a day doing stuff in Tennessee. So technically, Tennessee is still on the list. It's like a whole. I've really made things just so annoying for myself.

Christine (47:11)

It's nuanced. Okay.

Eva (47:12)

But West Virginia, I have yet to be. Yet to go there. And I know that it looks creepy. I know it does.

Christine (47:18)

Oh, it is. Because it's so beautiful. And then the second the sun goes down, you're like, oh, my God, there's monsters in these woods.

Eva (47:24)

Yeah, I can't wait. So Virginia says I'm a long time listener and an avid fan since 2018. Okay, well.

Christine (47:33)

Hey. Oh, my God, you knew it.

Eva (47:35)

Your efforts have been recognized, Virginia. Listening to your podcast grow and your career stickoff has been so inspiring over the years, and I've truly appreciate the community you've grown. Thank you for being your authentic selves and showing people that we can find Our tribe and that I likely need to get diagnosed for adhd.

Christine (47:50)

Yeah, probably.

Eva (47:53)

Virginia says the setting is road trip from Dallas, Texas to Alexandria, Virginia in the last week of August 2025.

Christine (48:04)

Okay. Oh, wow.

Eva (48:05)

Recent my parents decided to move from the Dallas area to the east coast to be closer to main me, my kids and my sisters and decided to give me their old car to sell. Because of this, I had to fly back to Dallas to drive the car home to Alexandria. Isn't that the way that parents gift shit these days?

Christine (48:20)

I love that, don't you?

Eva (48:22)

It's like, here's a really, like, kind of okay present. And also the only way you can get it is spend your money to fly all the way here and inconvenience yourself for a week.

Christine (48:29)

Well, it's like, I'm coming. Isn't that a gift enough? Now you need to do some work for it.

Eva (48:33)

You could have just sold that car that none of us want and then use that money to fly ourselves out to visit me. But whatever.

Christine (48:40)

I don't know. Maybe they're offering free child care. Who knows?

Eva (48:43)

Maybe. I don't know. I've done different versions of the drive since college, but I decided to take a route I've never taken before to explore Kentucky and the eastern part of West Virginia, which is technically East West Virginia. I love that.

Christine (48:55)

Oh, I love that. And I love that that her name's Virginia. It's just making it all so perfect.

Eva (48:59)

It's kismet. I think.

Christine (49:01)

It is. It is.

Eva (49:02)

Christine, now I know why you live in Kentucky. Because it's a beautiful state and I had a great time.

Christine (49:07)

Oh, thank you. Oh, I'm so happy you enjoyed it.

Eva (49:09)

I re listened to the episode on Mammoth Caves and took one of their tours and had some excellent bourbon at Dark Arts Whiskey House in Lexington.

Christine (49:17)

Oh my God.

Eva (49:18)

And drove through the breathtaking Red River Gorge area.

Christine (49:21)

Oh, it's beautiful. It really is.

Eva (49:23)

While I wanted to stay longer, I was on my last day drive and needed to pass through West Virginia quickly to get home that night for work the next day. The drive through West Virginia was beautiful and uneventful. For the first part of the trip, as I was taking the highway through the center of the state and I was making good time drinking a milkshake and catching up on the podcast. And at one point on the interstate, close to sunset, I needed to use the restroom and figured I would stop. I would top off my gas tank before dark. If my favorite gas stations aren't around, which are Wawa and Sheets, then I Usually just take the exit and go to the nearest one.

Christine (49:58)

As I'm you basic bit, you high maintenance basic but just like me.

Eva (50:02)

Just like me. If there's a Wawa or a Buc

Christine (50:04)

ee's, I'm going, I'm getting to she sheets stat. Yeah, stat.

Eva (50:09)

This time, for some reason, instead of just going to one of the several gas stations off on the right, I decided to take a left under the overpass to and take a right to get into the gas station. As I was leaving the gas station, I was still setting up my audio and just following the map instructions on my phone without really paying attention. It instructed me to take a right out of the parking lot and go up this two lane road. As I started to drive forward, two adorable spotted white tail deer cross the road in front of me. And a little further ahead a cute squirrel is hanging out on the road.

Christine (50:42)

I don't like this.

Eva (50:43)

A lot of animals gathering to look

Christine (50:45)

at you and it feels like cute animals. Feels like two animals.

Eva (50:48)

It feels like they're trying to warn you.

Christine (50:50)

Yeah, it feels like, well it also feels like that weird like children, like hey, we're sick, we're cute and safe. Like come this way and it's like.

Eva (50:57)

Or yeah, they're all, they're all watching to see your next move.

Christine (51:02)

Yeah, I don't love it.

Eva (51:03)

I'm paying attention to these animals and not as much to where I'm going and a car comes up behind me. So I start to drive faster. I realize suddenly that I'm driving a steep hill and I have this moment of panic because the highway was right next to the gas station. I, I should not have been driving up the steep hill away from the highway as my map was directing me my inch.

Christine (51:23)

Not in West Virginia. I should have. I'm telling you out there. It is dark and it is spooky out there.

Eva (51:28)

My intuition was telling me that something was wrong and I should definitely not be heading up this way. It was more than a. Oh man, I made a wrong turn reaction and more of a turnaround. Now this is dangerous.

Christine (51:41)

That's like your nervous system like senses danger. I don't.

Eva (51:45)

That's scary intuitive feeling. I had to drive a little farther up and find a small gravel shoulder. But I swung the car around and looked closer at my maps and Google Maps was instructing me to take this big look loop up up the mountain and back down the highway, miles back in the direction I'd already traveled. Which would add like 45 minutes to my drive. I didn't have time to waste. As I was going, it was going to get dark soon and I was still hours from home. I sped back down the road and towards the highway. All the while, the maps kept trying to get me to turn around.

Christine (52:17)

No, no.

Eva (52:19)

When I got back down in front of the pilot, the map was trying to reroute me to take the pilot

Christine (52:24)

is the gas station, I'm assuming.

Eva (52:25)

Yes, yes.

Christine (52:26)

Okay. Okay.

Eva (52:27)

To take the west ramp and make a U turn. This time, instead of listening to my maps, I took the east ramp to continue on my way. So Virginia just said google maps. I'm doing what I want. I refresh my maps once back on the highway. And now it said that I would get home 20 minutes earlier than it would have taken on the detour it was trying to get me on. Now, I'm not great at math, but if you start at a point and take 47 minutes to make a big circle, then why are you only saving 20 minutes? If you bypass that circle, wouldn't you be saving a whole 47 minutes? It's like, why are. Why is there an additional 27 minutes if there's. Yeah, okay. I dismissed it as odd and continued my trip, only seeing a smattering of cars and trucks as I drove the rest of the way home through the pitch black mountains. Now, the weirdest part of this is what I learned after returning home. I was telling my sister this story and how odd I found it, and she was the one who joked that I was about to be abducted by aliens. She asked me where this took place and suggested I look up the city and nearest campground to see if there were any UFO sightings near there. I couldn't remember the city, however, since I remembered that I stopped at the pilot off 79. There is only one that fits the description in that right area, and it is in Sutton, West Virginia, right next to Flatwoods, the home of the Flatwoods monster.

Christine (53:44)

No way.

Eva (53:45)

I freaked out a little bit when I found out, and I'm sure this could be chalked up to a maps glitch or a series of coincidences, but it felt eerie and wrong at the time in a way that I really can't describe. Having done tons of long road trips by myself and backpacking in the West Virginia woods, it takes a lot to unsettle me and make me feel unsafe. But this felt unsafe for no apparent reason. Always trust your gut. Oh, and then once again, thank you both for all you do. If you ever do. Hometown ghosts. I'll have to share my Fredericksburg and Williamsburg ghost Encounters.

Christine (54:15)

No way.

Eva (54:16)

Or my encounters at American University and umd.

Christine (54:19)

Wait, what?

Eva (54:20)

What? Who is this person?

Christine (54:21)

That's weird. Who are you?

Eva (54:22)

Virginia.

Christine (54:24)

Virginia, what's happening, man?

Eva (54:27)

Super creepy.

Christine (54:29)

I don't. Yeah, for someone, especially at the end saying, like, I camp in the woods and stuff. Like, I don't. So, like, I'm scared of everything. Kind of like. I don't know. But like, if you're familiar with the woods and sleeping out there in the wilderness and you're unsettled by something in nature, I feel like there's something unsettled about 100. Okay, so here is an email from Megan. She. Her. Oh, my God. So Megan, get ready. Megan. She slash her slash May. Gemini.

Eva (55:07)

Megan, girl.

Christine (55:08)

Come on, Megan. We see you. Okay, this email is called My mother is an alien. Hey, mine is too. Crazy stuff crazy. Hey, y'. All, I'm just going to jump into it. Growing up, my mother always told us stories of seeing UFOs. Montana in the 1970s was a hot spot, especially with the Air Force bases in the area. As a child, I was amazed that my mother had seen something so cool. She always told us that she believed that Earth was a terrarium. And for all we knew, God was an alien. Oh, God, my God. Imagine being raised by that. Like, your mind would be so open. You'd be like, so open minded. You'd be like, oh, God's an alien. You know?

Eva (55:45)

You know, the first time she went to school and said that to one of her classmates, they were like, we don't all think that.

Christine (55:50)

Principal. Principal's office. Yeah, you're upsetting the children. You're upsetting the other children.

Eva (55:55)

Sounds cool to me though. I'd be like, now that kid's cool.

Christine (55:57)

I'd be like, hell yeah. Thoughts like this got her kicked out of Catholic Sunday school multiple times as a child.

Eva (56:03)

Well, that'll do it.

Christine (56:05)

In October 2017, she was diagnosed with stage four pancreatic cancer, and they gave her six to 12 months to live. The night she was diagnosed, a bright star appeared in the sky over our hometown. Oh, my God. My aunt joked that it was the mothership coming to take mom home. We joked about this several times in the three months before she. I'm, like, getting choked up. Several times in the three months before she passed away. January 2018. Mom passed away at 66 years old.

Eva (56:34)

Oh, my God.

Christine (56:35)

We. I know. We opened the windows and played her favorite song, free Bird, to let her spirit free that night. I spent my night at my aunt's house drinking fireball and laying on the floor. At one point my aunt went outside to have a cigarette and came in yelling. And came in yelling. They came to. They came to get her and took her to the home planet. The bright star in the sky had disappeared the same night mom left. Oh, she was very in tune with this part of her soul, as is my sister. I unfortunately am not in tune with this and it makes me feel like I don't have that connection with my mom. A. Anyway, I hope everyone is having a wonderful time. And M. I am a fellow ichthyophobic Fish. Fi. Fish.

Eva (57:17)

Fish. It's a tough life we have.

Christine (57:22)

Yeah. Seriously, props to both of you. We seem to be few and far between, but fish in every form are. Are disgusting. And that's the end of. The end of the email, man.

Eva (57:34)

Well, I like the first half. I'm sorry about your mom, though.

Christine (57:38)

She. I am sorry as well. And like she got. She saw these UFOs as a kid, was like, God's an alien, you know, and then was passing away too young and they're like, come on, come back with us. Oh my God, that's just wild.

Eva (57:53)

Yeah. No, I. I hope that you feel connected to your mom, though.

Christine (57:57)

I do too.

Eva (57:58)

We have one last story for everybody. This is from Taylor. She. Her. Thank you for normalizing pronouns, Taylor. And the subject line of this one is just alien encounter nice and vague. So I have no idea what ride we're about to go on. So Taylor, take it away.

Christine (58:18)

A bumpy one. I'm assuming.

Eva (58:21)

It says my name is Taylor. And the following is an account of an alien encounter I experienced to set the scene. This happened years ago. My best guess is around 2018. But time isn't real and I have no concept of it.

Christine (58:33)

Amen.

Eva (58:33)

I can recall the memory of it like it happened yesterday. My friends invited me to a house party hosted by someone I knew of but didn't personally know. And the weirdness started when the host of this party, who's a man a few. Few years older than me, me, greeted us using or greeted me using my first and last name and knew and knew where I worked.

Christine (58:54)

What?

Eva (58:55)

So this, the man who's the host of this party goes up and goes, hey, Taylor. Last name? I. I know you work at this place.

Christine (59:01)

Don't do that. That's weird.

Eva (59:03)

It was incredibly off putting and I still to this day don't even know his last name. So I have no idea how he knew mine. I would. I'm I not to defend a man. I'm wondering if he was trying to like, like creep on Instagram or something, and that's how he figured it out. And he should have. Should have led with that or something and been like, oh, I wanted to see, you know, who. Who everyone was that was getting invited. He should have framed it differently.

Christine (59:26)

Should have, could have, would have, man

Eva (59:27)

should have framed it differently. Or maybe he's a creep.

Christine (59:31)

Or he's just a creep.

Eva (59:33)

Anywh who we all start drinking and perhaps engaging in the devil's lettuce and as the kids, as the kids do. I remember having a buzz, but nothing too crazy. At some point, my best friend at the time and I wanted to get some air. So we sat on the front porch. I was probably. It was probably around 9pm at this point. And we just sat out there for a while chatting. It's hard to describe what happened after that, but in the street that was next to the house, we both suddenly saw what looked like a thousand tiny lights connected through us via string that was moving in a way that I had never seen anything move before. It was expanding and contracting, going up to the tree line and back down to the street level in split seconds.

Christine (60:14)

What I was gonna say, maybe it's Starlink. And then I was like, wait, no, that does not.

Eva (60:19)

Yeah, it's like in the cul de sac.

Christine (60:21)

Yeah, forget it.

Eva (60:22)

I remember grabbing my friend. It feels like a Goosebumps book. Like tiny lights in the cul de sac.

Christine (60:29)

Yes, it sure does.

Eva (60:30)

I remember grabbing my friend and saying, are you seeing that? And he confirmed he was seeing it. Just as mesmerized by. By it as I was. We were so scared, but also completely frozen and couldn't look away. But that's not the worst part. The clump of lights got small enough to duck behind a car that was parked on the street. Ew. So it like condensed that intensely. We watched as it went behind a car from the front end. And I you not. I couldn't make this up if I tried. A child that was probably three or four walked out from behind the car at the back end. The child walked at a fast pace in a completely straight line, wasn't wearing shoes, was completely alone, and I believe he had his hands in his pockets. Once I saw that, we hauled ass back into the house. And I haven't spoken about it since. I like how this could have been a missing child. And he just went, see ya.

Christine (61:20)

No, no, no way.

Eva (61:21)

The entire experience lasted one to two minutes. And it's the strangest thing I've ever seen. I mean, really, like to have that many lights scattered and then condense into light life as like a, like a makeshift human. Yuck.

Christine (61:35)

I'm so freaked out by that. Like, how many children of these toddlers are alien spaceships?

Eva (61:41)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Christine (61:42)

What the.

Eva (61:45)

Seeing the, the lights was one thing, but a child appearing out of thin air was the single scariest moment of my life. And I have spent a lot of time over the years since this happened contemplating it. Who knows what the lights could have been, but then it presented in a human form, and that's the worst part. So me, I messaged the friend. I messaged the friend that experienced this with me before sending this story because I wanted to confirm he remembered the same thing. And his exact words were, yes, damn aliens. I can see the argument that we were both not sober and that could have altered our memories, but we both saw the same thing. And I haven't heard of any strain of weed that provides dual person hallucinations.

Christine (62:22)

Yeah, I wish. That would be really awesome.

Eva (62:24)

Why?

Christine (62:24)

No, that's just insane. And like the idea of the child just like, like imagine you're. You see the ball of light and you're like, whoa, it's going to come out the other side. And then there's just like this child. Barefoot child. What the. I mean, I'm. That freaks me the hell out.

Eva (62:44)

I. I got nothing.

Christine (62:48)

It sounded like it was playing. It sounded like it was playing and then it like, like realize, oh, someone saw me. Yeah, it's got nothing to see here.

Eva (62:57)

I feel like it thought, oh, everyone's inside, no one's gonna notice us. And then they accidentally like walked in on this experience and got witnessed. And I wonder, like, was the child obviously like an alien? But, like, was it, did it start as a child and then was like playing around and change, like, became lights and then went back to its human form? Or was it always lights and then shifted into a child when I realized it was being watched, right? And then went, oh, I have to look like a human.

Christine (63:24)

Exactly.

Eva (63:25)

Because I overhear these other humans saying that they, they see this.

Christine (63:30)

Well, then why didn't you transform into a bird? Right? Because then you could just like hop. You know what I mean? And like, nobody would be like, you just think we're the lyco.

Eva (63:37)

Or like a grown person, like, to see, like, it reminds me of like in Roger Rabbit, like that little cartoon baby who smokes a cigar. I'm like, why is there a three year old walking around with his hands in his pockets in a straight line Black eyed child.

Christine (63:50)

Right. Like, maybe that's. Oh, maybe that's the connection. Maybe there is like that alien connection.

Eva (63:55)

Yeah.

Christine (63:55)

And they can manifest, but, like, not as well as they'd like. I don't know.

Eva (63:59)

Yeah. It seems like it was trying to emulate a human not knowing that three year olds. And I wonder if children operate a little differently.

Christine (64:07)

Yeah. I wonder if children are easier to, like, emulate because they're smaller, obviously, but also, like, not as a. Like, formed as an adult. Like, maybe child is just an easier, like, like, incarnation. I don't know.

Eva (64:21)

Yeah, that's weird.

Christine (64:23)

Yeah.

Eva (64:23)

Well, Taylor, thank you for that and I hope it never happens.

Christine (64:27)

Thanks for ruining my day.

Eva (64:30)

Oh, man. Well, happy April 1st, everybody. We are in the fourth month. Finally. We're. We're in Q2. Q2?

Christine (64:38)

Oh, my God. Are we really? You're right. April Fool's Day marks Q2, and hopefully

Eva (64:46)

everyone is having a good Q2. So. So far, it's been a day.

Christine (64:51)

It's been a day. You know, you have time. It'll get better.

Eva (64:53)

Oh, well, I hope you're healing from Q1. And what are you doing for the rest of the day, Christine?

Christine (64:59)

I'm going to see Tyler Henry, Hollywood Medium Live.

Eva (65:02)

That's literally the coolest thing you could have ever said.

Christine (65:04)

I'm so excited. Blaze got me tickets for Valentine's Day and I was like, I'm in love with you. Wow.

Eva (65:10)

I can't wait to ask about it next time I record.

Christine (65:13)

I'm gonna. I keep forgetting to mention it on the show, but. Or maybe I did. I don't. But, yeah, I'm going to. You did bring a full report. I did. Okay. Oh, right. Because we were doing the. Because Jane fell down the stairs.

Eva (65:24)

What?

Christine (65:25)

So remember we were using the. The spirit box at the Ghost tube, and we were doing Yappy Hour and I had my weed pen and it was like cigar. And then it was like, stairs fall.

Eva (65:40)

I understand now. That was a crazy way you said.

Christine (65:42)

Like, maybe she'll.

Eva (65:43)

I obviously knew where I was going, though.

Christine (65:47)

Yeah, okay, fair point. Yeah, but so we were like, maybe Jane will come through with the Tyler Henry. We'll see. We'll see.

Eva (65:55)

Love that. Okay, well, yeah, definitely give us a full report. That'll be. I assume next time I see you, it'll be the first thing that either you say or I ask about, so

Christine (66:05)

I'll just blab about it right away.

Eva (66:07)

Good. Okay. Well, see you then. And happy April, everybody. And we'll see you with more listeners episodes or more listener stories May 1st. So.

Christine (66:16)

That's right. See you soon. And that's why we drink.