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Em
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Nicole
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Em
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Nicole
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Em
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Christine
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Em
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Christine
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Em
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Christine
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Em
Ding Dong.
Nicole
Knock knock.
Christine
It's May, and we have a very.
Em
Our spring witch is here.
Christine
I love that. A spring witch. We have a special guest. This is one of Christine's personal friends. So I'm. I'm gonna have you do the introduction.
Em
That's what I call her, a personal friend. This is my personal friend Nicole. Nicole Bigley, host of A Psychic Story. Just. I mean, now it's like the spots on the spotlights on me, and I. I'm blanking on my personal friend's entire biography. Where pals. One time I went into the walls of her house with her and stuff, and she has, like, a cool, secret tunnel under her house.
Christine
That's something we should discuss.
Em
Sometimes I introduce people like I'm in kindergarten. Like, you know, like, who's your friend? It's like, I don't know their name, but here's everything about them, you know, and it's sort of like that where I feel like. And we did that too, where we skipped a bunch of levels of friendship and we suddenly knew all these things about not like, where we were from or, like, basics.
Christine
Yeah, yeah, we.
Em
Sometimes I feel that way.
Christine
Well, okay. I. As. I'm gonna be the. The spokesperson for the audience.
Em
Yeah. Okay.
Christine
And we would like to know what you just said about being in her walls.
Em
Oh, I was like, so many ways, so much. Oh, well, let's please. Let's please explain and Not Safe for Work podcast. You never know what's coming. But no, we. She owns this beaut in southern. What is it? Southwestern in Cincinnati area, let's say. And it's just this beautiful witch. Witch house. It's like the perfect, beautiful cauldrony witch house. And she invited me over one evening and we had several glasses of wine. Yeah, a little bit. And I, you know, we're venting our stuff, and suddenly I'm like, what's up there? And she has these huge, tall ceilings and that, you know, those, like. What are they called?
Nicole
Well, they're kind of sort of like transom windows, but if there's not a window, there's like a door and you can actually open it. Store stuff. So they used to put, like, trunks
Em
and things up there, and surely the previous owners emptied them out. Right? Well, well, well, the painters had left a ladder. And I said, there's only one way to find out. And I kid you not, we found in there some. I was like, honestly, sometimes I'm like, did Nicole plant that Just to like, you know, amuse me for the day. But it really was like treasure hunting. We found this silver briefcase and it was locked. And we took it, of course. Next step, onto Nicole's balcony. And she took a hammer and we hammered the code. Clearly we didn't know the code.
Nicole
And.
Christine
And Nicole, as a psychic, were you. Are you.
Em
Good point.
Christine
Are your abilities there when it comes to being able to send something off of an item? Like what were you able to get a vibe?
Nicole
So that's psychometry. And I will say we both were a little nervous, which, you know, after having some wine, you wouldn't think we would be, but we were definitely determined to open it. It had like this latches and like we're like number combination. And it was a silver metal briefcase. As Christine mentioned, nothing good can come like that. Like what's in this lobster? Locked a breath.
Em
And why did they leave it?
Nicole
Taking a hammer to it, you know?
Christine
Well, I think the hammer is certainly bringing some. Some darkness. Yeah.
Em
And what.
Nicole
And so we did, we did try and intuit tune in and see what was in there. And I think we guessed like somewhat correctly, but there was no way we would have known what was.
Em
It was so random. It was like somebody left their like random personal effects like, like in a glove box, but put them in it. So there was a picture of an atomic bomb. Okay. That doesn't so much randomly personal effects.
Christine
You found a random trunk.
Nicole
Like an actual photograph, like y photograph of it going off in the ocean.
Em
That photo of a small little girl, small child. And then a driving log in pencil. Like a serial killer.
Christine
Are you improving right now? That can't be.
Nicole
So it's a true story.
Em
Like it doesn't.
Nicole
It's a video.
Em
We have a video.
Nicole
Yeah, we do a video.
Christine
I. That's because one would think, oh, what's the most mysterious thing I could find in this like unmarked trunk? It's a bomb.
Nicole
We were hoping it was money.
Em
Well, we were hoping it was like so much money. Or like doubloons. Gold doubloons, you know.
Christine
Did you keep it? Like, did you hold on to any of it and like, and store it?
Nicole
Yeah, I kept it all. Yeah. We also found wood clogs.
Em
Clogs.
Nicole
A camera with some film that still needs to be developed.
Em
Yes. A mysterious camera. Some artistic. Some artistic artsy stuff.
Nicole
An American flag.
Christine
How big was this trunk? Damn.
Em
No, this was all in the transom thing.
Nicole
I had like five of them or six of them. So we went through each and every one.
Christine
Crazy. I'M glad that we started here because it.
Em
You told me to introduce my personal friend and I said, oh. The only thing I think off the top of my head is our personal adventures. No, that sounds bad.
Christine
I appreciate it. That's. That sounds like a really bonding experience. I don't mean that in a funny way. I would like, I would. I remember that I'd stay in that memory for a very long time.
Em
I do live in that memory a lot. And we did also go to eat it together, which of course was its own kind of magical. But that almost feels like so big that it, like I just, I miss it. I look at the smaller details.
Nicole
That's a whole nother combo.
Christine
That's cool.
Em
Which I did on your podcast.
Christine
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nicole
And. And real quick, if I may add too. So I was having. My house is haunted. I was having these experiences. Very long story short, the TV that I had just purchased kept going on and off. And this psychic medium told me that one of the ghosts wants me to know where the money is hidden.
Em
And it's not in the silver briefcase, by the way.
Christine
That's such a red herring. That's so.
Em
Can you imagine if. If you had heard that message before and then we found the silver briefcase, you would have been like, this is the thing. That.
Nicole
This is the thing. Yeah, I would have not worried about using that hammer on it. But anyway, there will be a follow up story because Christine's gon to bring her equipment and I think I know where it is. In the hammer. Yeah, her hammer. And we're just gonna go to town.
Em
No, I literally went crazy and bought a bunch of on Amazon after that because I. This is like, when was this? Like over a year ago now. And I bought like all these little cameras that you can like put in the walls. I've just became obsessed with what's in the walls. And I went to my house and I found some, like, wallpapers, you know, behind some of the paint. And nothing too thrilling yet, but when I was a kid, I used to find stuff in the walls a lot. So I realized it's one of my favorite pastimes. And my personal friend Nicole has really brought that out in me.
Christine
I think you like looking in walls and you have a friend who is saying, my, the walls are available, they're haunted, they're yours.
Em
Totally. One of these days, and I want to get one of these like cool X ray vision things that you can like, look underground and you can. I have one that you can see. Like if there are objects behind it anyway. It's very fun. It's very fun.
Christine
And you didn't find the money yet?
Nicole
No, because I haven't gone hunting for it yet.
Christine
I feel like.
Nicole
It feels like. It feels like a. It's a whole thing. It's a whole production and I feel
Em
like you have to like prepare. Yeah, it feels like a big, big undertaking.
Christine
Yeah.
Nicole
Also, do you disclose it?
Em
Well, too late now, my friend.
Nicole
Did I find anything?
Em
I don't know whether you found it. I see. So she'll always be looking for it, but one day she'll like own six houses.
Christine
There will be signs.
Nicole
There will be signs.
Em
There will be signs. Yes.
Christine
And I forgive me if this is like a, like such a question you get all the time. But I feel like someone's going to ask and by the way, it's going to be me, but somebody else is going to wonder also. But is there, if you're able to make contact with spirits who will tell you there is money? Can you not ask a follow up question and be like, where is it?
Nicole
Yeah. No. So I did and interestingly so where I live. And again, try not to give too much information about the location. There's a lot of lions around. It's one of those things that gets very with this town. And so she did not know that. And she said, I'm seeing this lion sketch. And I'm like, well, there was some renovations done to my house, so I don't know where there would be a lion. However, I realized have this lion sculpture, not very expensive, but I put it in this one area of my home and where it is on the extension of the house is over where the old well used to be.
Christine
Oh my God. You get more and more interesting.
Nicole
And so I was like walking out one day like at this door and I thought, wait, I think that's where the well is that they filled in and wait, you know. So yes, so I do ask follow ups. But I'm also not a medium necessarily. So I don't speak with spirit.
Em
Right, right.
Nicole
So I feel the ghosts around. I can. It's kind of creepy. I know when watching me and I'll say, hey, you know, give me some privacy type of thing. But I don't have like a lot of one on one conversations with them in that respect. So that's why I called this one person. I was like, why is this ghost haunting me? Why is it turning on my television to this random channel about a man, you know, drowning in the ocean? I'm like, oh, well that's probably because that's how he died.
Em
Great.
Christine
Oh, my God.
Em
Wow. What a. What a wild power to have. After you die, though, Like, I died in a parachuting accident. I'm gonna keep making you watch Rick Steves parachute down into England or something. You know, the more you.
Christine
The more that I hear you speak about your life, the more I understand why you and Christine are so close. Because, like, just like, everything that you say so far is, like, kind of vague and, like, I'm desperate for more information.
Em
Imagine, then you add a bunch of red wine.
Christine
Oh, I'm sure. Where you're like, oh, I don't want to triangulate myself, but I live where there's a bunch of lions. And I'm like, the zoo.
Nicole
Cincinnati Zoo statues.
Em
I did notice she didn't say stone lines. And I was like, I'm just gonna be like, okay.
Christine
I was like, an enclosure. I mean, it was the most. Christine way to answer that, though. It's like,
Em
you know why she's hunting for buried treasure at the Cincinnati Zoo, so leave her alone. She's not going to disclose where she finds it, but it may or may not be. And no one's going to come for
Christine
you if you live surrounded by lions. So.
Em
No, no, it's. She's safe as they're my protectors.
Nicole
I have a bunch of pet lions.
Em
They have a. You know, a relationship. It's all good.
Christine
Yeah, I see. I see, I see.
Em
Well, anyway, so that's Nicole. Does that help?
Christine
Yeah, sure.
Nicole
That's a great intro. I. That's probably the best intro I've ever received on the podcast. So thank you for that introduction.
Em
Well, that was.
Christine
I had a great time.
Em
I know what I thought before this. I thought I should pull up, like, a little bio about Nicole Soy. And then I thought, nah, I can wing it. And it worked, I think really well. So that's probably what I would have scripted anyway, all of that. So I'm.
Christine
It was a perfect script.
Em
Thank you. True. Thank you. Well, it's. It's May 1st, which means we have a new listener episode out for you. And Eva, as always, has picked some stories. We submitted the theme because we have Nicole here, of people's experiences. Did we do angels and God, like people's angel experiences? Yeah. And I'm so excited for this because I don't think we've done this topic or if we have, I don't remember it.
Christine
Agreed.
Em
Yes.
Christine
I feel like it's. It's something we must have asked for in the past, and I yeah, but I don't remember any stories. But I.
Em
It could very well be we asked for it and never actually fall followed up.
Nicole
So.
Em
Yeah, but we're excited and we, we told Nicole before we started that we wanted her input. We want her to take over and tell us what she thinks about, about what we're doing.
Nicole
So this is my area of expertise.
Em
Exactly.
Nicole
So I'm all for it.
Christine
Perfect. Yeah. And no, it's very helpful that, that we have the source here and on the ground journalism.
Em
Primary source. Yes, exactly. And we're gonna read these aloud. None of us have read them before, so they're all new to us. Although Nicole almost admitted to psychically scanning them before the show.
Nicole
But I wanted to make sure there wasn know any bad juju. But these fantastic. So here we go.
Em
Fair enough. I love that for us. Good job, Eva. Okay, who wants to go first?
Christine
Sure. Okay. Yes, I could go first.
Em
I don't care either way.
Christine
I don't care either. I, I, I'm happy to do it. Let's see.
Em
Okay, you go ahead then.
Christine
This is from H, it seems. Oh, just refer to me as T. All right. Hey T. My pronouns are she, they and by the way, the, the subject line just angels SL guides.
Em
So that seems to fit the theme this week, this month pretty well.
Christine
Okay. So T says I have always been sensitive. My childhood home is over 120 years old and has some ghosts include including the hat man. Great.
Em
Oh no.
Christine
And I have also unfortunately had a few near death experiences and that that have seemed to make me a magnet. When I was about 22, I had. I'd been having a really rough time and due to unfortunate situations, I was in a very deep and dark place. I had then fallen asleep one night after having a very rough day and immediately woke up at my grandparents dining room table. I could hear my grandma in the kitchen and felt like I was just at their house for dinner. My papa was across from me and that was when I was aware of it being a non normal dream. So a bit of a vision going on at the grandparents table. My papa had sadly passed away when I was 10 and had also had a few more losses within my family including my great grandpa and my brother around the same time. And every time I was very sad or going through it, I would dream of my papa. In the dream he comforted me and apologized that he couldn't be there physically to help me through things. But as I got older, he had been watching me grow up through whatever this, through whatever this veil is. He had told me how proud he was of me going to college, pursuing my dreams of being an artist, and was very happy to see the amazing person I was turning into. I, of course, started bawling, and he held me, saying, things will work out. I remember him telling me he would send me a sign when I'm on the right path by smelling his cologne. I kind of took that as an odd thing because I hadn't smelled that in years. So I nodded my head and said, I'll try my best to keep an eye out for them that fast forward. I'm out of college, started my life in Chicago as an adult, moved in with my boyfriend, and getting our bearings on this next step. I obviously was very nervous about this big change. And my boyfriend was making room in his closet that was now becoming our closet. And as he moved a pile of sweatshirts, I got the largest whiff of my papa's cologne. A. I immediately grabbed the clothes and took a big smell of them and asked my boyfriend if that scent was his, if that was a scent that he had as a cologne. Confused, he looked at me and said, no, I haven't been able to get the smell of that cologne out since I thrifted it.
Nicole
Oh, wow.
Em
Shut the up.
Christine
And that's when I realized this had to be one of the signs my papa was talking about.
Em
He was up there like, one of these days, this somebody will buy this cologne, and I can finally make it work. Oh, my God.
Christine
I got very emotional, and my boyfriend comforted me, and that's when I told him about my dream. He thought that that was very sweet and also has some similar spiritual views to me and said, that seems to be a very clear sign. Since then, it's been five years together. We're engaged in planning our wedding. We're parents to three fur babies and both on the up and up in our careers. I'm in the art and creative field as a floral and visual designer, and my fiance is in pharmaceuticals. I've had a few more dreams with my papa since. And I love knowing that maybe whatever is beyond allows your family members to look into how you're doing and help guide you. And I think that's beautiful. Thank you. T. I was. I was getting really nervous that we were going to find out that, like, what are the odds that her future husband, like, bought, like, went to the thrift store and actually bought her grandpa's clothes? I don't know.
Nicole
I did have that thought.
Em
I was kind of hoping you guys are both psychic, though. I feel like I did not have that thought at all.
Christine
I. Christine keeps calling me psychic. It feels extra embarrassing. Next?
Em
Well, one time, Nicole came on this podcast, said, I'm your psychic. And I said, told you.
Nicole
You just don't want to. You just don't want to claim.
Em
Just don't want to do that.
Christine
I. I don't know how to tap into that world yet. I. You're. You're certainly the psychic here, the capital psychic. No, I. I was. I was like, is it gonna happen? Is she gonna find out that, like, these were her grandpa's clothes? But no, that's still. Just to have the cologne. I still have my grandfather's cologne. If I ever get a whiff of it, I always want to think it's a sign, but I'm like, it's. I personally bought it.
Em
I almost think, like. I think like, the Buying the cologne is almost more intriguing to me because it's like. I feel like that's not a. Like, I've never thrifted a cologne, and I guess people do, but, like, normally you'd think, like, oh, you thrift a sweater. But, like, thrifting a cologne is so specific and, like.
Christine
Yeah, well, I don't know.
Em
I. I don't know.
Christine
I also, I. I personally like to collect the smells of all my family. I know it's, like, weird. I have a candle that smells like my. One of my grandma's. I have a.
Nicole
A.
Christine
You know, this. That smells like my grandpa and stuff. So I. I like a nice idea, but it would be so freaky to me to just have it hit me out of nowhere when I'm not expecting it.
Em
Has that ever happened to you?
Christine
M. Once or twice I've smelled my grandma, but it was also. It was a woman that was my grandma's age walking by, so I was like, maybe they just have the same perfume.
Em
Still cool. Still cool. Nicole, do you ever get the smell, the old. What's it called? So.
Nicole
Claire? Aliens is when you have a smell and there's no reason for it, you know, so there's that, and I don't get it. A. There's also the taste, too, that you can get. But I have had a weird banana bread smell in my house occasionally.
Christine
That's a great thing to have happen.
Em
I know.
Nicole
I'm like, can you make me some. Where's that coming from?
Christine
That.
Em
That's supposed to come through?
Nicole
Yeah. So I know that at some point somebody did that, but it's not related to anyone. And my. My grandfather, my mom's mom, he used to smoke cigars at one point, and then he gave them up. So occasionally I've smelled that, but it's a strong. It's not one of my strong ones. Yeah, but I love this story so much because our loved. Well, first of all, I refer to our spirit team. It includes angels, guides, our loved ones, and they're always trying to get our attention. And if we're not paying attention to those signs, then it's. It's hard. So they love to get us and communicate with us in our dreams when that veil is finished. And so dreams tend to be. Especially if one's standing out where it's extremely vivid and it just feels differently, like more of that lucid dreaming. I know you. You both talk about this a lot on the, on the podcast too. They love to, to drop into our dreams and to communicate with us that way. So. And the fact that she was going through such a rough time at the, at the moment, and then he said, listen, you know, heads up, you're gonna smell, you're gonna smell me type of thing. I think it's such a beautiful way that he was able to connect. And then fast forward, you know, it's. It's her fiance, husband and everything.
Em
Oh, and they're getting married. Yeah, it really is. That's really beautiful.
Christine
I. I do like that he said, you'll smell me when you're like on the right path or doing the right thing. And he was like, this boy right here.
Em
That's a good one. This will do. Yeah, yeah.
Christine
It's like, I approve. It was very sweet.
Em
That's cute. All right, I can read the next one so we can leave. Nicole for last. Best for last. That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah, yeah. This, the words are tough today. Okay.
Christine
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Em
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Christine
The fact that we found her on the same day that we put out the the help sign, Help us please. And then Eva, her little laser eyes went, I'm on it. You know what I mean?
Em
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Christine
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Em
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Em
The subject of this email, which is from Cece, who uses she her pronouns, the subject is, my grandparents like to visit on their way to get their wings, which makes me a pit stop, I guess. Question mark. Hello to all friends living and fruit. Hashtag Team Lemon for life. I know I would have skipped this part, so I'm just making sure to read it. You would never. My name is Cece. I have two angel stories for you. Both of them are about my grandparents. I saw the call for Angel Slash Guide Stories. Oh, this was recently. I was like, see? We have done it. Okay. No, this is the new. This is a new thing. Okay. I saw the call for Angel Slash Guide Stories and have been sitting on these stories for years, since the Grandparent Ghost Stories Listener episode back in the day. So I thought I'd send these to y' all because I do feel like both of them were angel victims visits. Let's crack into it. My mom told me a story once about how my great grandma visited me the night she passed away, even though we lived hundreds of miles away. I was a baby sleeping soundly in my crib when my mom was woken up by a cold breeze. Not strange, because my mom's a light sleeper, but when she turned over to check what time it was, she had to look toward my crib. And there, all white and standing over me was my Nana. My mom watched her bend down, kiss me on the forehead, and then just disappear. The clock on her nightstand said 2:15am later that morning, she got a call that Nana had passed away at, you guessed it, about quarter after 2 that morning, we were all convinced that Nana really stopped by to give me one last smooch before joining my Gigi Paw great grandpa pronounced Gigi Paul in the next life. That's so sweet. I'm sorry. That just got me a little bit like. She's like, I have to check on the baby real quick. Just one last time.
Christine
Yeah.
Em
Yeah. My grandfather on that side of the family also decided to visit me on his way to the beyond. But this time, I was old enough to know what was going on. Son, a little backstory on him. He was a gay man, the pastor of his church, and I remember him always having a beard. He and my grandma led the first desegregated church in their small area of Cumberland Gap, Tennessee. And I have so many. Geez, so many stories about both of them. The KKK literally firebombed their house when my mom was an infant because of how progressive they were. And Grandma had to throw mom out of the second story window to Grandpa. But that's all for a different time. Papa passed away of pancreatic cancer when I was about 10 years old. And the night of his death, parents had sent my sister and me up to my grandma's house for the night so they could be with him. At 12:08 that night, I woke up to a tickle on my face. I was not a light sleeper at the time. Now I am. Oops. Well, that's okay.
Christine
It's okay.
Em
We kind of all are, I think, at a certain point. So very rarely did I fully wake up in the middle of the night. But I remember very vividly waking up to a scratchy feeling on my cheek. I also smelled something warm and musky, but just assumed it was the air freshener my grandma used for the bathroom down the hall. Call thinking it was a fly or something, I just went back to sleep. The next morning, my parents came to pick us up and told us that papa had died the night before. And it all suddenly clicked. The scratchy feeling on my cheek, the warm smell, which definitely was his favorite cologne. It was him coming to give me a kiss and tell me goodbye. After we got through the initial shock, I told my mom all this through tears, and she wasn't surprised at all, lol. I still remember the feeling and the smell over two decades later. And every time I think about it, I get a little misty. End of the day, the at died. Suffice to say, I've always been a believer in the paranormal. So once I was introduced to y', all, I was hooked. Thank you for all the stories, for being familiar voices on gloomy days, and for being such huge advocates. I am bi. Hell yeah. And you're great, etc. Etc. Etc. Stay spooky, Cece.
Nicole
Whoa.
Christine
First of all, your grandparents sound cool.
Em
Yeah. What the hell?
Christine
And then also I would wonder, like, is this something you tell the cousins or are you worried that you were like the best one and that's why you got the visit goodbye? Because.
Em
Oh, right. Like, do they visit you and nobody else has an experience? Because, em, you've said that, like, your grandparents will give. Each have given everybody their own, like, individual different experience.
Christine
Yeah, it was very nice of them. They gave everyone an individual goodbye.
Nicole
Spread the love.
Christine
Yeah, well, like I. And I personally. Well, who's listening? I know I was the favorite grandchild on that side.
Em
Of course.
Christine
And I did get the course. No, it's been confirmed.
Em
Yeah.
Christine
And I.
Em
No, I fully believe you. 100.
Christine
And I did get the best experience I had like a. He was my first flat out I ever saw. And he was right in the room with me and we talked.
Em
Well, that's probably why he sent everybody else something, like a sign. Yeah, he was like an edible. There's a dream, you know. Yeah, here's a dream. I'll visit you in real. In real life.
Christine
But. So I'm like, it sounds like you got a really cool one. But I was. I was scared to always say something to my cousins because I Was like, first, I don't want to look crazy, but two, did he visit you? And then when everyone else started talking about it, I went, oh, okay, this is a safe space to bring it up.
Em
But I wonder, then you realize yours was the best one. You were like, thank God.
Christine
Yeah, kind of. So I'm kind of like, I wonder where this person would also where CC would stand. But anyway, that's just a silly little aside.
Em
No, no, it's true, though. I feel like, I don't know, some people just have that.
Christine
Some people have the X factor with their grandparents.
Em
Some people are just the favorite.
Nicole
They're just the favorite. They're just my favorite. Yeah. No, I mean, I would be wearing, like, a badge of honor, you know, not just with your family, but her. So, you know.
Christine
Yeah.
Em
They literally, like, visited through space and time to see me one more time. That's how special I am.
Christine
And I wonder, Nicole, maybe you can answer this. Does I wonder if one of the reasons that some people get the experiences and others don't is like, I wonder if they're just more in tune with that or more open to that, more psychic.
Nicole
Because that's exactly where I was going to go. Is that.
Em
Yes.
Nicole
So with people, when you're more sensitive, especially with your loved one ones, and it's not always when they're about to pass. So I love hearing that it was, you know, her. Her grandma made a pit stop before she kind of crossed over to the other side. But also when we are more sensitive, I. E. Our psychic abilities are, you know, a little bit stronger for us, especially when it comes to our loved ones, we're going to be more open to receiving that. Especially, you know, if somebody's closed off, they don't believe in it, it's going to be harder. Those experiences and. Or pick up on those signs type of thing. And I bet you she was to both of her grandparents as well.
Em
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's really special. I love that.
Christine
What was the tickling on the face? Was it like his beard? I think he was hugging her.
Em
Yeah. Like giving her a kiss on the cheek or something. I know.
Christine
Wow.
Em
Which is kind of what the grandma did, too. Like, lean down, give her a kiss.
Christine
I did get a. I got a hug, but it was not as memorable as apparently this one was. So I'm kind of mad now. My grandpa me tap in real quick and go, try again.
Em
What's that scratching feeling then?
Christine
Make. Make it count.
Nicole
Do you want it? I don't know.
Em
I don't know.
Nicole
I feel like an uncomfortable feeling when there.
Christine
Yeah.
Nicole
Unless it's something that's special to you.
Christine
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm good with what I got. Okay.
Em
All right.
Nicole
Am I up next?
Christine
Yes.
Em
Yay.
Nicole
Yeah. Thank you, Cece. Okay, so this subject is a reincarnation, doppelganger, or astral projection. You decide. And this is Nicole, besides Kaylee. So. Hi, team. I just finished listening to Listener episode or, Sorry, Listener stories, episode 24. And when you guys asked for reincarnation stories, I figured it was time to sit down and write about my slightly disturbing story about my own reincarnation slash doppelganger slash potential astral projection. I'm already hooked and intrigued.
Em
Yeah.
Nicole
I was 18 and working at a cafe one day when it was super busy. I noticed there was this man that kept staring at me and looking at me kind of weird. I wasn't his server, but I saw that he was sitting, just sitting, drinking tea and watching my every move whenever I'd walk by his table. He must have noticed my uneasiness, because he stopped me and apologized as if he was making me uncomfortable. He said that I looked like, spoke like, and my mannerisms were very similar to that of, and I quote, the woman he fell in love with 50 years ago.
Em
Oh, my God. Well, that's not necessarily what you want to hear at work.
Christine
Yeah, actually.
Em
Wow.
Nicole
Would not have guessed that. Okay. Nope.
Em
Surprise.
Nicole
I was spooked out. But then he pulled out his phone that had a picture of a Polaroid picture of this super hippie girl that looked exactly like me.
Christine
Ooh.
Em
Now this is what I want to hear when I'm at work. I'm like, actually speak on that. This is.
Nicole
So how do you. How did you know? My boss came over out of curiosity, and when she saw the picture, she honestly thought that this man had a picture of me. This man said that they fell in love about 50 years ago in France and had wanted to marry her, but she mysteriously disappeared one day when she was only in her 20s, and he could never find her.
Christine
What?
Nicole
That also could be a time. Yeah, Time warp type of thing, too.
Christine
Oh. I didn't even think about time warp. I'm stuck on Likey. She agreed to find him in another life, and now they're like, incorporate. Like, yuck. But at least I tried.
Nicole
Yeah, I was still pretty spooked out, and I panicked. So I politely said sorry and just walked away.
Christine
Yeah.
Nicole
Yeah, that's. That's a lot.
Em
You're allowed to do that.
Nicole
Yeah. A couple weeks later, I was working a night Shift at the cafe and closing by myself. It was empty until 10 minutes before closing. This woman with a very heavy French
Em
accent no oh my gosh way I
Nicole
just got chills, got out of a cab and came in to eat. I was kind of peeved because I just wanted to get out of there
Em
10 minutes before closing. 10 minutes before closing is so fucking rude.
Nicole
She was just some lady by herself and she didn't seem like she was from around town. So we ended up having a conversation while she was eating. We were talking about traveling when all of a sudden she interrupted her own thoughts and said I'm sorry, I just can't shake it. You look like and remind me of one of my old friends from school a very long time ago. It's kind of weird. She then proceeded to tell me that she went to an all girls school in France where she was coming from on a business trip with this girl. What she looked like, had the exact mannerisms and smile as me. When I asked her if they still kept in touch, her face turned and she said that after school they were still friends but she hadn't heard from her in 50 years because one day this woman just disappeared.
Christine
You're totally right Nicole. This is some weird slipped through a portal or something.
Em
It has to be.
Nicole
Yeah, it's so strange, right? When she said those words, the story of the old man clicked in my head from a few weeks prior and I swear I got the chills. You just now got them?
Em
Yeah, the whole time.
Nicole
Girl, I didn't tell this French woman the story the man told me. Ah man, you missed an opportunity.
Christine
You really did.
Nicole
Because I didn't want to freak her out or anything so I just let her finish her meal and she gave me a hug goodbye when she she left. Ever since then I've been really curious about 1 why I look and act like this woman 2 who she is and what happened to her 3. If I am living a parallel life in the past or four if my reincarnation looks the exact same. So many questions. Sidebar I've always had a strong urge to go to France and Spain and my friend and I always joke about living a past life together when we were sisters living in France, working as dancers. Girl.
Christine
What?
Em
Holy shit.
Nicole
Anyways, if in if any more people that noticed me from 50 years ago, I'll keep you posted. Also, sorry this is long.
Em
Okay this was in 2019 this was written so we better get somebody searching if if Kai has sent any updates since then.
Christine
Yeah, I'm kind of upset.
Nicole
Researcher yeah, me.
Christine
Now, that's a good point.
Nicole
You're the researcher.
Em
I lost the password to our email so long ago. I don't even know how to get in there anymore.
Christine
I was going to say, I feel like Kai should have me sent sense. Like, not in a creepy way. Hang on a second. A full body pic. So that way we could have blasted and be like, does anyone know? Did anyone meet her 50 years ago in France?
Em
Missing doppelganger. Yeah. Oh, my God. Okay. That is just so wild and, like, I don't know. I want to hear Nicole's professional thoughts, and I want to hear M's and my Gemini amateur thoughts, but I'm like, Micah is like. This feels almost like a parallel, like. Like, existence. I don't know, like, or. Or I don't know. What do you guys think?
Nicole
Well, I'm going to close my eyes here because that was a lot. So I've got to kind of tune in. And so the first thing, like, I'm drawn to is that I kept hearing time, time, time. And as we all know, and I'm sure you. You believe this, that time doesn't exist. You know, it's not linear. We're all living, if you believe in multiverses and time, space, reality, dimensions. And so we make about 30,000 choices a day, most of them subconscious, conscious. And anytime we make a choice, it changes the trajectory and it ripples out. It's like, boom. Blow your mind right there. So I feel like it literally could have been her.
Christine
Yeah, yeah.
Nicole
And then this is a different lifetime, so I feel like it's more of that reincarnation. I don't necessarily know if it's like a doppelganger, although I do believe in doppelgangers and maybe doppelgangers, because I think doppelgangers are more like, it's a split part of our soul and our experience.
Em
Interesting.
Nicole
And. Or it could also be in that. In, like, a timeline. But for me, I. I keep getting time and I keep seeing her then and her now.
Em
Yeah.
Nicole
Also, the only thing that, like, throws me off is the people didn't feel familiar to her.
Em
Good point.
Nicole
So if she's listening to the story, maybe look back later and tune in and be like, did you. I know you were creeped out, because I would have creeped me out, too.
Em
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nicole
Like, and everything. But, you know, I. I just. I always say look back and reflect how you feel in the moment, because if these people. She even gave that woman a hug or that woman gave her a hug, so there was some familiarity, you know?
Em
Yeah.
Christine
I feel like this was a wasted opportunity for a Hollywood script.
Em
Just because I feel like, hey, it's not wasted yet.
Nicole
If she's like.
Christine
If she gave that woman her co worker's number, then it could have been, like, a mystery of the two of them trying to refresh her on her old life and, like, get together and teach her, like, who she.
Em
I was gonna say a scam. Like a big scam, but yeah, is nicer, though.
Christine
No, mine was more like. Like, they both recognized her and helped her find her way or something.
Em
I don't know. Well, I. The only thing is. Yeah, if some guy was like, I fell in love with you 50 years ago, and I was, like, working as a server, I'd be like, seriously, guy,
Christine
that is a weird way to start this.
Em
Yeah, but the photo, I feel like he was, like, ready. He's like, I know. This is weird. Here's the photo, which I feel like is very validating. This was 2019.
Christine
Yeah. And he. I wonder, like, what happened? Timeline or cosmically, I wonder what happened for all of it to happen, kind of all at the same time. Like, she met this guy and he was like, ah, France. And then she met this woman. Oh, France. And then she's like, oh, I remember talking about France with my sister when I was a kid. But I wonder, like, why that moment was the moment that the world felt like she should be.
Nicole
I'm reminded of when I was little and I asked my mom one time what deja vu was, because I don't know if you ever felt that a little bit more when you were a child.
Em
At least I did.
Nicole
I was constantly. And that's because we're. We're so innocent and we were so pure, and we haven't been programmed. And, you know, the reality of the world hasn't weighed so heavily on us. But that deja vu. I asked her, and she gave me this explanation. I think it was five. And I was like, yeah, no, mom, that's not it. She's like, okay, well, what is deja vu?
Em
She's like, why would you even feel familiar?
Nicole
Yeah, whatever. I don't even remember what it was. And I. And so I asked my guides and angels. I was like, what is deja vu? And so then they told me, and they said, it's that moment in time when your past, present, and future all collides at once. Once. And that's why you feel like you've been there before, because you already are there. It's like You're.
Em
I know. Isn't that a mind. Mind bender?
Christine
Wow. I'll sit on that for a while. Thank you. That'll. That'll take up most of my day, actually. Thank you.
Nicole
So when. So when you're, you know, saying, well, why then? I mean, I don't know, I would say, like, what was the dates of both those people? Like, she doesn't necessarily remember maybe this quote unquote, past life, because to me it's an alternate life. So is that what necessarily happened? And in which case she wouldn't necessarily have why. But also maybe that was a trajectory and a turning point, because I think she said it was like three weeks prior. So it's like a three week period.
Em
Yeah. Interesting.
Nicole
And so maybe there were things that she was happening in her life because remember when we make these choices and decisions. So did she decide to finally go to France? Inquiring minds want to know. Did she. Was it a push that allowed her to look more into reincarnation and like, wow. So it's probably something that helped her, you know.
Christine
Yeah.
Em
This was like, written. Oh, this is crazy. Just think. But seven years ago. So, Kai, if you're still a listener, reach out, let us know what's. What's going on or if you ever got any more.
Christine
Did you make it to France? Did you ever know you.
Em
Yeah. Do you have a sister in France or a doppelganger? We'd love to hear about it. Good job, Nicole. Thank you for reading.
Nicole
Yeah, that was a fun one.
Christine
That was. I'm glad you read that one. That one felt most timeline layers.
Em
Yeah. Felt right for you to explain to us. Yes, yes.
Christine
Okay, so the next one we have is. Oh, from Josie. Okay. And the title is I think the Time, I think I Died. And then with like a caveat here, at least for five minutes. And I don't know if that means she thought that for five minutes or she thinks she died for at least five minutes.
Em
I've only thought, that's funnier that way.
Christine
Yeah, it's funnier.
Em
The amount of times I've thought I've. I must have died, it's much more substantial.
Christine
But once it hits five minutes, then it counts. Why?
Em
You know, then it finally, you're like, things are. Things are probably. Things are a problem. I was just at a. For one night at Jerry's bachelorette party in Hocking Hills area, and I. All these people started suddenly sharing, like, the time and it got really eerie in the room. There were three people who had had, like, these really crazy Car crashes who were like, oh, I woke up. One of them said, I woke up in the passenger seat and, like, just completely unscathed. My car was in the middle of a field, like you could fly. Follow the. But, like, something happened. Spun out, woke up in the passenger seat. Just weird stuff like that. And then they all said, does anybody ever feel like maybe they died? And two other people were like, I think that all the time. And I was like, guys, you're freaking me out. Anyway, so that's why when you started the story, that's what it made me think of. But that just gives me the. The willies a little bit.
Christine
Sure. No, I. Yeah, any. Any. That also reminds me of when we would talk about, like, third man syndrome where, like, yes, there was like a. A random person that they never saw again that showed up in the middle of the woods to help them before help could get there. And. Okay. Josie says, I have never. I've actually never told anyone but my husband this story. And I think he may have thought I was crazy. In 2021, I was 17, and I was sitting in church and just randomly passed out, like, fully unconscious, not breathing for around five minutes. And when I came to. When I came to, my skin was pale and my lips were blue.
Em
Jesus.
Christine
I obviously don't remember anything that happened around me in the realm world while I was out, but when I came to, I thought for sure I had died. After I blacked out, I remember something grabbing my hand and walking me away from my own body on the floor through the wall and to what looked like a beach, but instead of the sky over the water, it was like a giant movie screen. The hand was so warm, like way warmer than a human hand. And when I looked over to who was holding my hand, the person thing just looked so bright. Bright, maybe the shape of a person, but made of fire or lava or light. And it didn't have a face.
Nicole
That's what angels look like.
Em
It's like, really? That's just, like, powerful.
Christine
So anyways, I thought, well, this is it. I'm about to see my whole life on the sky movie screen before I go to heaven. This sucks. I haven't even graduated high school yet.
Em
Oh, my gosh.
Christine
And instead, I saw glimpses of what I have now come to realize were my future. Some of the things I saw, I don't really remember, but I vividly remember seeing my at the time boyfriend, now husband, in a suit with a lake behind him. And we got married in 2024, three years later by a lake and the lake was, in fact, behind him. From my view of the wedding, this
Em
is like, like Lifetime movie montage, but, like, real.
Christine
I love that this guardian kind of grabbed you away and was like, I'm just gonna spoil a couple things for you. Yeah.
Nicole
I just wanted to show you some fun.
Em
Some fun stuff while having a bad day, while you're, like, in a coma or whatever over there. Let's just watch a movie for five minutes. For five whole minutes? At least.
Christine
Five minutes.
Em
At least.
Christine
I saw a wooden stage and bright lights. And I graduated college in 2025, and the stage looked exactly the same.
Em
Oh.
Christine
I saw my cat napping in the sun by a window. I didn't get my cat until two years later, and she is a very uniquely colored calico. And I saw who I later recognized would be my nephew sleeping in my arms, who wasn't had. Who hadn't even been born yet and wasn't born until later that. That year. Wow. Before I was shown the last picture, the creature tried to speak to me, but it didn't speak English. It spoke in some language I do not know. And instead of regular speaking, its words sounded like a song. Oh, I guess that's where we get, like, angels singing from and light language. Yes. And the last thing I remembered seeing on the sky screen was a hand holding a peanut butter sandwich and a cup. And as soon as I woke up on a table in the church kitchen, my nana was handing me a peanut butter sandwich and a glass of juice.
Em
Whoa. So it's like a convergence of time. Like, here's your future.
Christine
Yeah.
Em
In the last picture. And maybe right now, maybe I'm messing
Christine
up the timeline, but it sounds like she got the farthest away vision first. And it, like, slowly was, like, bringing her back to reality because the.
Em
The nephew being born in two months was one of the last ones. Whoa. Oh.
Christine
There were other things, but I haven't had the IRL experience where I say, oh, my gosh. I remember this from what the bright creature showed me to remember what they are yet.
Em
Oh, interesting. So it's not like you see the cat at the pound and you're like, oh, my God, that's the cat from the. It, like, hits you later like, oh, that. That's really interesting.
Christine
We later found out I'm hypoglycemic and I have passed out multiple times since then. But I didn't see anything. Just black. I would be pissed that next time.
Em
I know, right?
Christine
Like, if you're gonna. I would be like, oh, yes. One more. One More glimpse the sequel. So maybe it was just the fact that I had literally no oxygen to my brain for five minutes and I was hallucinating. But I truly believe that something was showing me what was, what was to come and that my time wasn't over yet. And I would like to add that I was completely fine and had no brain damage or anything from my lack of oxygen for an extended time.
Em
Thank God.
Christine
So it really seems like some otherworldly creature just decided to pay me a visit.
Em
It.
Christine
Wow. Wow. Yeah.
Nicole
That's so fascinating.
Christine
Can you speak more on light language? Because I've heard that phrase and I don't really know enough about it.
Nicole
Okay. So if you ever decide to look it up and listen, go with an open mind, because I always want to giggle when I hear it. Okay. I don't. I don't speak light language. Just why. So I ain't going to do it here for you, sure. But just because I don't. I don't speak it. But essentially, it's a channeled language of light, and it normally is representative of more extraterrestrials or ETS and, Or the intergalactic. But also I heard just channeling as you were telling the story, because I do feel that this being was an angel, because when I see them, I see them as light. Massive, huge beans of light. And kind of like what she described the lava almost, when you look at the sun and there's, like, offshoots of that energy going, it's really, really beautiful. So. And I feel like this was a guardian angel of hers. And so as soon as you read that, I heard in my head, light language. And so light language is. And it's more when, you know, usually when angels and others speak to us, it's more telepathically and. Or through our intuition. But when they need to say something, and it probably was to help her, like, connect back to her life and to her soul, they'll speak more in that there's a vibration.
Em
Because I was going to say, well, is she supposed to understand what it means? But I guess not necessarily.
Nicole
I had a gentleman on recently, recently, Ken Lloyd, and he did this light language prayer, slash download meditation. So afterwards I said, well, what did you say? It's like, I don't know.
Em
He doesn't know language.
Nicole
You speak the language here. But point is, is that it's not. It's. It can't necessarily be translated, sure. In the way that we would translate word to word from, like, English to another language. It's more the meaning the intention, the energy behind it, you know?
Em
Right.
Nicole
So that's my. My little bit of knowledge on light language.
Christine
Thank you.
Em
That's just amazing, though, to, like, be able to validate in, like, little stories like that. You're like, yep, I know what that is. And that's how I see angels.
Nicole
And the other thing I was getting when you were reading the story, Em, is that this person, I don't think that they have seizures, but my guides and angels were showing me. It's like when people have seizures and. Or they pass out. And you also see people dramatized on shows and movies where they're able to channel and receive information. So think of it almost as if when you're asleep and then you're coming awake and you're in that again in between state when you're in, I would say coma, because she wasn't in a coma, but they found out that she was hypoglycemic, so she passed out. She's kind of out, you know, and she's probably able to connect a little bit more in that state.
Em
Right, right, right, right, right.
Christine
Wow.
Em
Brain waves. Etc. Wow. Fascinating.
Christine
Yeah.
Nicole
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Em
All right. Oh, hey. This is perfect. Are you ready? This is called My Guardian Angel Ghost and it says servos from Munich, which is the Bavarian way to say hello. Hello in German.
Nicole
Service.
Em
Yeah, it looks like service sort of servos, but then in Austria you say Christian Scott.
Christine
Great Scott.
Em
And that start griscot and that starts to get crazy.
Nicole
Okay, this is why I don't know
Em
any other languages and they kind of roll their R's and it sounds like what's happening down here? This is the. I'm with the hicks now. I love it. Okay, sorry. Anyway, service from Munich. Hey, Em and Christine, I'm gonna see if this person gave us a name. Says, love you xoxo and then the name is Sarah. Okay, I have a story about how a mystery ghost tried to save me from an abusive relationship. FYI, I did end up dumping the abusive guy and I lived happily ever after with someone else. Love that. So when I was in college, I feel like that guardian angel's like, yes,
Christine
she's smoking a cigarette right now. She's like, oh, that was really tight to me.
Em
They listened finally. So when I was in college, I was dating this horrible person who my friends and I now affectionately call Captain Alex. Since it has such a nice ring to it. I will call him Captain for the remainder of my tale. Captain was, well, a. He was extremely manipulative, kind of gaslight mountain and made me feel like human trash. What fun for an 18 year old girl who had just left her tiny town to go on an adventure at a big state college campus with over 40, 000 students. There were so many fish in that sea and I sure found myself a winner. He isolated me from my friends, called them sluts and told me I shouldn't hang out out with them. He wouldn't let me speak to his friends and barely let me leave his room When I came over to Visit. He rolled his eyes and criticized me whenever I spent my own freaking money on something he deemed stupid. To the point I stopped purchasing things that I wanted. When I told him I was studying German and international policy so I could join the US Foreign service as a diplomat, he literally laughed in my face in front of all his friends. He then proceeded to tell me, no self respecting man is going to give up his career to follow you around the globe so you can play diplomat. Diplomat. Oh my.
Christine
What's his address?
Em
This guy is a winner. Yeah, just quick. Yeah, yeah, quick question. What's his first and last name? I want to do a little googling. Oh, is it Cole? I'm so oblivious.
Christine
You know, I have. Sorry, I'm not.
Em
No, no. It's a long one.
Christine
So I was gonna ask. Is there. And I'm. Maybe I'm speaking in too much of like a. With a human mind here, but can her guardian or cardian.
Nicole
Could you imagine? Em has a gu.
Christine
I like to think mine is a bit of, you know, not the kindest.
Em
Sometimes you gotta have a little in there somewhere to like.
Christine
Yeah, well, kind of.
Em
Okay, sorry, that sounded bad too. I need to stop.
Christine
No, no, no. Well, I was gonna say, like, when there are not so nice people in the world, I assume everybody gets a guardian angel, whether or not I personally believe they are deserving of one. But can like eat their guardian. Guardian angels get together and like hash it out and be like, what the is your client doing? Client?
Em
I don't know your client.
Christine
Like, could you not be such a piece of garbage, please? Because like she.
Nicole
They meet all the time, okay. They negotiate for us. They duke it out. But also think of it like Captain Asshole's guardian. Okay. Or whatever that is. They're just probably sitting up the side filing their nails.
Christine
Sure.
Nicole
Because he's not going to be listening to anything they bring them.
Christine
Okay.
Em
So they're sort of like tuned out by now. They're like, he's not going to be.
Nicole
Yeah, gotcha.
Em
Wow, that's.
Christine
And would you say that. That they're like, are guardian angels. Are all guardian angels equally equipped for the job? Or are there some that are lazier than others? Because sometimes I'm like, I could have.
Em
Is M's better than mine.
Christine
As someone who like, like, very, like, you know, lighthearted example is someone who's incredibly clumsy and I'm like, were we just not on the clock today, guardian angel? Or like, do you just not care? You're like, oh, well, you'll learn better if you just fall Like I. Like what, like what, what's, what's going on in that world when it comes to like when they really step in vers like force you to have an experience.
Nicole
Yeah. So it's a great question. They're gonna. So our guardian angels, I believe this because this is what I experienced as a child. And what I was told from them is that our guardian angels are ones where we have a soul contract with. So before we come here to earth, we're like, hey, you did a great job in that other life and we made a great team. So we want to work together because we have free will and choice. They're not going to like interject unless we make that. So everybody has at least one guardian angel, whether you believe it or want to work with them or not. And so to your question as far as like are filing their nails or sitting off to the side or what? Sometimes we need to experience those things and they're not going to interject.
Christine
Okay.
Nicole
But if we want to work with them and say, hey, help me out a bit, you know, with this, this or this, then regarding your life, they're going to show up more, they're going to interject more, they're going to support you more.
Em
So it's almost like you need to be engaging.
Nicole
It's like it's a two way street. You have to have kind of a communication.
Christine
So you have to be open to, you know, it's open to all of it. Okay, thank you.
Em
Asking for help.
Nicole
And if you want, you know, again, because like some people aren't into this, so they're. So then they're not going to have much to do.
Christine
Sure.
Em
Okay, thank you.
Nicole
It's like that song in my head. Yeah, it's like that, that social media meme. Just like, okay, you fly little birdie, go do your.
Em
I hope you, your nails are gonna look great. Okay, let's see. You can play Diplomat K. It says those are just some snapshots of our relationship. I've done my best to forget the the rest. Good for you. We dated for about a year before I dumped his ass wall on study abroad in Germany. Finally got far enough away from him to be able to think for myself and realized that he was destroying me bit by bit. However, during the year we were together, we visited each other's homes, met each other's families, etc. Etc. Etc. 1 extra special visit happened when he came to visit my parents at their house deep in the Michigan wilderness, on 10 acres of land surrounded by over 100 acres of state owned land. AKA in the middle of absolutely nowhere with absolutely no one around. Nobody knows.
Nicole
No crime.
Em
No body. No crime. Terrifying. While staying the weekend at my parents house, Captain had to sleep in the basement and I slept in my room two whole floors away. Hashtag Christian parents. For for once I'm like, they're probably making the right move. He slept in our living room basement on the couch. This room had a dimmer light switch and because the house would otherwise be literally pitch black because we were so deep in the woods, he'd sleep with the lights just barely on so he could see the room a bit it. After we had all said good night and I'd climbed the stairs up to my tower, the entire household fell asleep and all was quiet. At about 3am My phone, which was on the nightstand next to me, absolutely erupted. Captain was calling me from the basement. Oh for God's sake. With this guy, please. I rolled over and answered. Hello? I said. There's someone in the basement, said a terrified Captain finally.
Christine
And I'd be like, I'm reading an audience in the basement and go figure it out.
Em
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly what I prayed for.
Nicole
She's like a family home. He's in the basement. It's dark. He's an. Check. Check. I'm feeling a. I'm feeling a ghost.
Christine
Yeah, yeah.
Em
This feels like what time to be as tough as you claim you are doing here. Yeah, exactly. There's someone in the basement. Said a terrified Captain. I shot up in my bed and paused for a moment. Deafening silence was on the other end of the phone. What? I replied. I just saw someone in your basement. Captain said in a slow eagle eerie voice. What do you mean? I whispered back. Meet me in the mud room. Sounds like. Okay, meet me in the mud room. I have to get out of here. He replied. Jesus. I threw on a sweatshirt and headed downstairs. When our eyes met, I could tell he was absolutely about to lose it. He was as white as a sheet and in full panic. We sat down in the mud room and I asked him to explain what exactly it was that he saw. He said he suddenly woke up from a deep sleep and his eyes flew open as if he didn't even have control over his own eyes eyelids. As his eyes began to focus on the barely lit room, he saw a man standing about six feet away from him in the middle of the room, staring straight at him. The man was solid, not like a wispy figure, a solid whole man standing right in front of him. Captain described the man as about 6ft tall, Jet black hair slicked back like James Dean, with a neatly shaved face, blue eyes in a gray cable knit sweater and black slacks.
Nicole
That's a lot of.
Christine
Yeah.
Em
He got a long look at this fella staring right at him. And this man was pissed.
Christine
Good.
Em
Apparently. The man's eyes were wild with rage and he was grimacing so hard he was physically shaking. The man extended his left arm and aggressively flipped off Captain. The man took a step toward Captain Asshole, but he blinked and then the man was. Was gone. But the image of this man was scarred into his mind. Or seared into his mind. I would imagine both are probably accurate. I was so very confused. I didn't know anyone at all who fit that description. So it must have just been his imagination. Or a weirdly realistic dream. After calming him down, we both went back to bed. Yes, he went back to the basement to sleep. If that wasn't my signal, this guy was completely in the head. I don't know what is. The next morning, Captain was telling my mom about what he had seen in the basement the night before. When he got to the description of the man, my mom's eyes. Eyes perked up. Side note, my mom looks insanely similar to Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter. Gosh, I literally would mistake that woman for my own mother. Maybe that's what was happening in that diner. I fell in love with Dolores Umbridge 50 years ago, but my mom is an actual saint and nothing like Professor Umbridge. But I digress. My mom interjected. That sounds like exactly how my dad looked. I had never met my mom's father. He unfortunately died of brain cancer before I was was born. My mom always spoke very highly of her father, saying that he was extremely loving, kind, patient, gentle and sweet. She couldn't imagine him flipping anyone off. However, from other stories my mom told about her father, she also said that he was a fierce father of three girls and would have done absolutely anything for them. Her girlfriends would come over to their house and ask for advice about any problems they were facing, and all of her friends look up to him as a father figure. Sounds just about like the kind of guy who would have flipped off someone abusing his granddaughter.
Christine
Yeah.
Em
To this day, I believe that since my Grandpa Joe was the only person in my family who could have seen for himself what Captain was doing to me, he felt like he needed to step in and try to protect me. And even though I never met him, I will always love him for that. A few months. A few months later, I was on Study abroad in Germany and dumped Captain. In my study abroad group was a guy named Kevin who absolutely stole my heart when we spent over an hour talking about how much he admired his grandparents for having such a warm, respectful and empowering relationship. Relationship. His grandma was a career woman, like a CFO of a huge company, and his grandpa was her biggest fan. He said he hoped to find a love like theirs someday. Spoiler alert. He did. It's 10 years later. Kevin and I are married with a little kitten named Linguini. Come on. Kevin is an extremely supportive husband. So much so that he has empowered me and supported me in my career to the point I'm the breadwinner in our household. And he, he feels 0% emasculated by that because he's so proud that he landed that. So suck my dick, Captain. I did find a self respecting man who would follow me to the ends of the earth. Well, I hope you enjoyed my tale. And to all the other listeners, a little message from me. In a healthy relationship, your partner should lift you up, make your life easier, and help you achieve your dreams. Do not settle for anything less. This is your one shot at a happy life. Don't let any ruin it. The people who love you will help you leave. Psychological abuse is abuse. Besties get help. You are worth it. Love you. Ex oxo the end. Whoa. Wow.
Nicole
That's amazing.
Em
On some levels, that is like a kick ass redemption story, you know?
Christine
Yeah.
Em
Not that you needed to be redeemed, but like you got out of a very shitty situation that you didn't deserve.
Christine
I wonder how. Why in that moment the her grandfather was able to come through. Is it because of that house or because he was alone or because he was. Was surround like the energy of family members? What's that?
Em
Yeah. Yeah. Like the energy of the family or something.
Christine
Yeah. I wonder if it was easier to like show up when like enough family were around to like.
Nicole
Or maybe he was motivated number one. And I didn't know what was going to happen, but I heard, you know, family land, all of that, so I think that's definitely a part of it. But when you, when you were telling the story, Christine, or sharing it, I was seeing the mistake at dinner and I feel like what had happened was there was like some argument after dinner and then that like ticked off grandpa because he saw what happened and then he was just like, he was like, I need to really, like this stops here.
Em
Like not in my house. Yeah. Yeah. Wow, that's powerful. Especially if that was like his MO in life. Too. That's really cool.
Nicole
Well, thank you so much for sharing.
Em
I love that he's like, give me a body. Give me a corporeal body. I need to flip this guy off. It's not enough to just scare him with a light switch. I got give.
Nicole
What's weird? When. When you said guardian, I saw, like, fingers flipping off, and I didn't know what that meant, so now I know.
Em
Oh, my God.
Christine
Right?
Em
Yeah. He is a guardian.
Nicole
Okay, are we ready for the next one? I believe. Okay. This one is a subject. My guardian angel, confirmed by a psychic. And this is from Claire.
Em
It's now about to be confirmed by another psychic, which is.
Nicole
Okay. Hello, Eva and company. My name is Claire. She, her, and my dead uncle protects me. Before I get.
Christine
I love that. That should be, like, in your. Like Tinder.
Em
Like, if anyone ever tries to introduce you on a podcast, like I tried to do for Nicole, that's how they should do it. Just simple.
Nicole
Like, her dead uncle protects.
Em
My dead uncle protects me.
Nicole
Yeah. Before I get into all of that, I want to tell you guys how much your show means to me. You have been my companions for years.
Em
Tell me about how much my show
Nicole
means to them, including the many back and forth drives from North Carolina to Virginia my stepdad and I had to take when my grandma was dying. He and I listened together and have since been two to two of your live shows together. And he wants you to know he called it after the episode when you met Allison, much like we all did.
Christine
Okay.
Nicole
Thank you for being a part of our family and giving big Richie and his sweet angel daughter something special to share. Yes, he and my mom had have a what we do in the shadows bit. We'll see you around next time you're in Atlanta.
Em
Yay.
Nicole
Now, back to the real story. My Aunt Minnie and Uncle Joe lived in Louisiana in a trailer in the middle of nowhere. My Uncle Joe was due to get heart surgery, but had a fatal heart attack a few days before he died in my aunt's arms. They couldn't afford a phone, so she couldn't call the paramedics. She moved back to upstate New York and started stocking chills at Walmart. She went to see a local psychic who was physically blind but saw more than most. She said Joe was coming through. After my aunt cussed him out for leaving her too soon. He apologized, said he'd be there when it was her turn, and that he had a gift coming for her in May.
Em
Oh.
Nicole
In May of 1998, my aunt won $25 million? What in the New York.
Christine
That uncle come over here too.
Em
Real bad. He must have been like, I gotta make up for this one.
Nicole
$25 million in the new York State lottery
Em
before taxes.
Nicole
Yeah, but that's okay. Hey, we'll take it.
Em
We'll take it.
Nicole
Two months later, I was born. My aunt and my mom went back to the psychic years later, and she informed them both he was going to look after that little blonde girl. And he's done a damn good job since. There are many sticky situations I imagined he helped me out of, including choking on a half chicken nugget earlier. Earlier this month. Shout out to my husband for God.
Em
M. Okay, so they're busy saving, giving people the Heimlich, not helping you trip over your couch or spill your drink. That's why we're so clumsy. There's real people with real problems, like choking on a chicken nugget.
Nicole
Shout out to my husband for remembering the Heimlich. Oh, good.
Em
Okay, never mind. Husband gets the credit for that one.
Nicole
There's so much more I could tell. Like about the time guardian angel Uncle Joe went to prison for manslaughter because he killed a guy in a bar fight with one punch. Or my mom's prophetic death dreams. But we'll leave that that for the next time. Wink.
Em
Love you guys. Julie Claire.
Nicole
P.S. attached is the is the interview she gave her local paper and the Buffalo paper when she won. As you can tell, she was a character. You can read them on air if you want. They're both short.
Em
Nicole, do the honors, if you would.
Nicole
Okay, there's an image here. Let me open this up. Okay. Marilyn Brantley and her sister met with reporters at the Olene Tops Market, May 2029.
Em
Oh, that's where my step is. Dad's from.
Nicole
Oh, really?
Christine
Oh, O.
Em
And New York. It's this tiny ass town. I've been to the oan Walmart like a hundred times. That. Exactly.
Nicole
That's where this woman worked at one point before she went $25 million.
Em
And maybe that's a sign. I'll go. I'll go up there.
Nicole
I need to fire my guides and angels. They don't give me $25 million.
Christine
You know what? I. You're speaking too soon because you got those trunks.
Nicole
I mean, you're right, but those are the ghosts. Those are my guardian angels.
Em
The guides need to, like, tell you where they. That treasure is.
Christine
Maybe sometimes ghosts are more helpful than the angels. Maybe this one's like, I'll step in. There's money somewhere.
Em
I know the angels care more about your spiritual welfare.
Nicole
But like, yeah, they're, they're like, she's rich beyond your imaginations. And I'm like, eff it, I want the money. I can have both. We all can. Okay, back to this interview. What am I going to do? I'm going to do what the 400 pound gorilla does. Exactly what I want want to do, said Marilyn Brantley in a response to reporters questions.
Em
None of your beeswax.
Nicole
Brantley, who learned last week that she had won over 12 million and a New York state lottery game, was fetted May 29 at the Oline Tops Market, the site where she purchased her winning ticket. The game was a 25 million top prize, but by selecting the lump sum option, Brantley will receive less than half. Half the advertised prize taxes will then have to come out of her winnings. With her was her sister who had stepped in front of her to buy a losing ticket on the same day.
Em
No, no, no. The uncle jor that in there.
Nicole
Her sister was in front of her.
Em
The uncle pushed the sister in front. He's like, you don't get that ticket.
Nicole
Yeah.
Christine
The way that if I were that sister, I would never lose my effing mind. Every day I woke up, I bet I'd be like, you owe me at least 1 million.
Em
At least $1 million. Come on.
Christine
Yeah.
Nicole
Oh my gosh. A contingent of co workers from the Walmart store in Oen came to wish her well. When they asked her if she's planning to return to work to that at the store, she quipped Wal who the co workers were ecstatic at her Good luck. This couldn't have happened to a better person. One of them said she's a great lady. Brantley, who told the crowd she enjoys fishing, said she plans to travel, but did not announce any immediate plans for to move from Allegheny County. She is the first lottery millionaire from the county.
Em
I'm gonna, literally. This is so weird. I'm gonna, I have a question I'm gonna ask myself.
Christine
I feel like, I feel like he'll know if you text him. It's like, oh yeah, the girl that
Em
won the lottery, right? I'm like, this is like, I think as far as I'm concerned, a pretty small. I mean it's outside of Buffalo, but it's like pretty.
Nicole
Well, he said he had a gift coming to her and boy, did he. I mean if that's not a way to make it up that, you know, she was mad that he, he left her too soon.
Em
That's incredible.
Christine
Let's circle back to my grandpa who gave me a hug one time in a dream. Like, let's.
Nicole
Yeah. I thought you were the favorite.
Christine
Yeah, I. All of a sudden, I'm nothing. I feel like nothing.
Em
So do you all. Just like that. Just like that.
Nicole
Just like that.
Em
And then your angels are there. Like, all right, now can we do the spiritual journey thing? And you're psychic and all this. Nope.
Christine
I. I feel like that, like her was her uncle or her grandpa who. Who did this.
Em
I think Uncle Joe.
Nicole
Uncle Joe is what she said.
Christine
Uncle Joe. Uncle Joe. Uncle Joe.
Em
Yeah. The.
Christine
I feel like, I don't know. When they go to, like, guardian angel, like the bar for guardian angels, he gets a real big pat on the back that day. It's like, oh, yours 112 million.
Em
Yeah. Like it. You're really taking care of your. Your wife.
Christine
Making us look bad, Joe, Seriously, making
Em
us look bad wins for the rest of us, man.
Christine
That's very cool. I'm very.
Em
Texting my stepdad. Do you know someone named Minnie who won the lottery in Olean?
Nicole
Oh, I thought you were texting me. I was like, why are about you talking texting me? I'm here.
Em
Oh, no, no. I'll text you too, just for fun. Hey. Hey, Nicole, do you know anyone named Minnie who won the lottery?
Nicole
I do not. Now I do. I mean, now you do.
Em
Wow. What a good story, though. I. And then I love that the grandchild was born right after and it was like, was that supposed to be the gift and the lottery was just an accident? Like, that was just.
Christine
Yeah.
Em
Or was it the other way around? Yeah. Cherry on top. That's beautiful.
Christine
Well, thank you, everyone, for sending in your stories and Happy May. It will hopefully.
Em
Oh, it's beautiful. We're making it to spring, finally.
Christine
I know it's probably hot. I'm probably complaining in a nearby episode where we are.
Em
But maybe.
Christine
And thank you, Nicole, for coming on and this has been a blast.
Nicole
Thank you for having me.
Christine
Everybody, please go check out a psychic story. And is there anything else you'd like to plug or where people can find
Em
you in the walls?
Nicole
In the walls. Come to our retreat and adventure when Christina and I are going to climb through rolls. No.
Em
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're gonna bring a hard hat for everyone.
Nicole
Yes. We can go do some adventure discovering. No, A psychic story. Wherever podcasts are. And if you need more information, you can go to a psychicstory.com. thanks again for having me on all.
Em
We love you.
Nicole
Love you.
Em
Bye. Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile with
Nicole
a message for everyone Paying Big Wireless way too much.
Em
Please, for the love of everything good in this world, stop with Mint. You can get premium wireless for just $15 a month, of course, if you enjoy overpaying. No judgments. But that's weird. Okay, one judgment anyway.
Nicole
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Podcast: And That's Why We Drink
Episode: Listener Stories: Vol. 115 featuring Nichole Bigley
Date: May 1, 2026
Main Theme:
This special Listener Stories episode is focused on angel and spirit guide encounters—including guardian angels, deceased loved ones, reincarnation, doppelgängers, and "spirit team" interventions. Christine and Em are joined by psychic medium Nichole Bigley (host of A Psychic Story) to offer insights, validate experiences, and provide colorful commentary on listeners’ supernatural and uplifting stories. The tone is lively, warm, and a little irreverent, featuring personal anecdotes, empathetic discussion, and a focus on both emotional and metaphysical meaning.
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[13:11 - 13:40]
[14:00 - 20:39]
Christine reads a story from “T”
Nicole’s Perspective:
[23:33 - 30:30]
Em reads a story from Cece
Hosts’ Discussion:
[31:11 - 40:30]
Read by Nichole
[41:16 - 49:26]
Christine reads Josie’s near-death story
[51:17 - 64:50]
Em reads Sarah’s story
[65:08 - 72:51]
Nichole reads Claire’s story
Useful For: Anyone seeking a blend of heartfelt supernatural stories, friendly banter, and psychic insights, whether or not they’ve listened to the episode.