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Andrew Schultz
Let's start the show.
Yayo
What's up, everybody?
Andrew Schultz
Welcome to Flagrant. And today we will eventually be joined by two. Yes, but I just want to say that we were going to wait for Uncle Murder, but Yayo specifically says start the pot early. Fuck him. That's what you said.
Yayo
Uncle Murder. I don't care about him. Listen, when I was. Listen. When I was doing. Listen. When I was doing Vlad and I started podcasting, everybody laughed at me. 50 murder, everybody. So my get back is my success now because I haven't dropped music in 20 years. But we ain't.
Andrew Schultz
You're more viral.
Yayo
Yeah. It's different times now.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Yayo
So I wouldn't think fast forward years ago when I did Vlad that I would turn into a meme. So you don't know what the marketing is.
Andrew Schultz
A meme.
Yayo
A meme. Whatever the fuck you call it. Right.
Alex
There's a new meme right there.
Yayo
I'm gonna give you a perfect example.
Andrew Schultz
I'm a meme.
Yayo
The Banks versus Fab thing. I'm team Lloyd Banks on that. Cause I feel like Banks have bigger heads, toured more and been more places. And plus we brought Fab on tour and Fab wanted to sign to the label at that point.
Alex
But you are just saying that because that's your man.
Yayo
No, I'm saying it because the guy that they saying is better than Banks wanted to sign to our label and we took him overseas. He didn't take us overseas. 50 took him overseas. So when you make a diss record about him. Right?
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Yayo
The funny thing is people never. 50 does a lot for people, but then people always seem to turn on them. Oh, really? That's how I feel.
Alex
Oh, well, that's fucked up.
Yayo
Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
You've been loyal from the jump.
Yayo
Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
You're a very grateful dude. That's something that. I think why I enjoy watching your stuff so much is because, like, sometimes people get money, they do these crazy experiences and they feel kind of like entitled to it. You all. You never seem like you're bragging when you talk about your life.
Yayo
No, I appreciate. Cause I appreciate. I live in the moment and I appreciate everything. Last night we went to Miami. We did three parties. We did Club 11. We went to a restaurant. You know, it was a vibe, good music, beautiful women was there. Like, we living the best life that you could ever live. We staying in the Fontainebleau. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to the fountain blue. We staying in the best hotels.
Andrew Schultz
So there's never a moment in your life where you're just like, okay, this is how I live now. And anything below this, I'm annoyed. You're grateful.
Yayo
I'm grateful no matter what.
Alex
You a little bougie now, though.
Yayo
Who you think? So, hello. But I still would go to the hood and get a beef patty and some jerk chicken. That's true. I went to New York fried the other day. I was in Queens. I'm still going to the hood.
Andrew Schultz
Is there anything that you won't do anymore? Is there anything now that you're living this life? You're like, ah, I just can't do
Yayo
that single ply toilet paper, I think just going out for no reason. And I feel like in the beginning of my career, what I always learned from 50 is like, you show your friends, you show your future, right? That's what they say, right? So I'd rather hang with guys like you or you or you. Cause I could learn something about this podcast thing that we're about to do, right? So a lot of times you'll have friends around when you're younger, in the beginning of your career as a rapper. And what are they doing? They want to fuck the chicks. They want to drink all the liquor, fuck up the hotel, beat people up. Cause you lawsuits. Those are losses. So in the beginning of my career, I could have learned from different shit if I would have hung around 50. 50 was so busy that we was kind of doing our own thing. So.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah, what happened? Like, you get locked up when they reach super, super stardom, right? And then you still get paid when they went on tour.
Yayo
Yeah. 50 took care of me. I told him I lived in Battery Park. You know, kids walking barefoot over there, no glass. What's my girl name that was here? She was like, yeah, that's like a different part of New York. Tanya. She was like, it's like a different part of New York. I'm waking up. I'm out of jail. I'm seeing the Statue of Liberty. I'm like, wow.
Alex
Oh, shit.
Yayo
We really made it. I can't believe it.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Yayo
And then I remember being in shock because I was in the shock program.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah. What's shock?
Yayo
Shock is like a boot camp, okay? So, like, my gun charge was. Was nonviolent, so I could get shocked. So I'm like, yo, I gotta get out of jail as soon as possible. Cause we blowing up. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, fuck, I'm missing everything. Who's crying? You be crying to yourself. They call it the why Me Cell. Every time we get Locked up. That's why they call it why me. So I'm like, why me? Why me? I gotta get outta here. So I got accepted the shot 50 had all kind of lawyers for us. So, you know, the lawyers was always there. That's why I always shot him out. The lawyer fees, he took care of.
Andrew Schultz
Oh, really?
Yayo
Yeah. So the lawyers, everything. I got shot. Boom. I'm in the back of the kitchen. Somebody come with like a magazine, a CEO, like, yo, this is you. It's the Beg for Mercy album. We outsold Jay Z that year. I'm like, oh, shit. Wow. She did like 3 million. Oh, damn. Cause remember, I was in the studio with Dr. Dre and Eminem on a run.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Mark
Wow.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah. Yeah. When you were on the run?
Yayo
Yeah, when I was on the run, I was going. I'm like. Cause it was like, why did you
Andrew Schultz
decide to go on a run?
Yayo
Cause you gotta think about this. Where your options, right? Go to jail or your group is blowing up, taking off, just you sitting there, you hearing 50 on the phone with Eminem. They popping bottles, they signed the deal. I'm there for all that on the run. So I'm like, why would I wanna go to jail and miss all that?
Andrew Schultz
But how did they not catch you if you're promoting the shows wherever you're going?
Yayo
Because now I can move around. Like, I'm with 50 in Pennsylvania. He lives. After he got shot, he had a spot in Pennsylvania. So I'm back and forth.
Alex
They couldn't see him. Cause he went like this started.
Yayo
So if I go to the hood, I might be at 50's grandma house, but if I don't go outside, I'm good.
Andrew Schultz
Now. Were you on the run in New York and that's why the other states weren't aware of it?
Yayo
No. You could be on a run. Once you get a warrant and then they fingerprint you, they could see that warrant anywhere. Texas, Georgia, Florida.
Andrew Schultz
But they weren't coming up to a show going, hey, he's there. We know he's there.
Yayo
They didn't really know like that. And they didn't know my face like that. They had my face. They knew, like, bounty hunters and stuff would come to my mom's house and be in the neighborhood. But I was, you know, I had a fake passport member. So now I'm in Barcelona with Eminem and Paul Rosenberg. Shout to Shady Aftermath. I'm on a run.
Andrew Schultz
They all.
Yayo
No rapper has done what I went through and been through. No rapper has done what I'm done. I'm on a run with Eminem, 50, everybody, Paul Rosenberg. Nobody knows I got my brother's name. Cause me and my brother look alike.
Andrew Schultz
Did they know? Did 50 know? Did em know or did you just kind of know?
Yayo
50 knew.
Andrew Schultz
Okay.
Yayo
I don't know if somebody got paid or anything. When I went to the Social Security shit, I'm not gonna say that, but I don't know how I got away with it. But I went to the Social Security building on the run with my brother's information. Wow, this is before 9? 11. Damn right. Went in that shit. Got my brother's name on the passport. Swear to God, I don't know how we did it. I don't know how it happened. They was giving Lloyd Banks a harder time than me in there. We had to take the risk. I didn't wanna go to jail. I was like, yo, who wants to? Yo, you don't want to. Nobody wants to go to jail.
Andrew Schultz
But you knew you would eventually have to.
Yayo
Yeah, but I was just enjoying the time, living the moment.
Alex
So whenever you got on flights and
Yayo
everything you would need. I was good. It was my face with my brother's name.
Andrew Schultz
And your brother couldn't travel at all?
Yayo
Well, my brother, he was, you know, he wasn't traveling with me. I was on the run. Yeah, he was just blowing up. So it was just me, 50 and banks. Did you tell your brother.
Andrew Schultz
Did you tell him that you were gonna.
Yayo
Everybody knew I was on every. Come on. I had all this information, Social Security, everything. Yeah, that's fine.
Andrew Schultz
Okay.
Yayo
So now I got a gun charge and I'm flying to Barcelona. I'm chilling with Eminem, Dr. Drake. So I'm like, this is never going. I'm never want this to end. Yeah, I would have ran forever.
Andrew Schultz
I'm glad they got you.
Yayo
Oh, that's a long story. We came back to New York. Now is the mixtape shit is blowing up even more. So we did the Coco Cabana. Remember that? Back in the day, we did that club and it was this hip hop because, you know, we was number one on hip hop police list. Like they knew us by this time. They was like, yo, yo, come to New York. He's a target. We're getting him. Cause I ran so far. I ran. And before, remember, there's no Instagram or nothing. So you're not posting, you're not making your shit hot. Right. You know what I'm saying? The phones ain't like that. Where they could track you. It's a whole different shit.
Andrew Schultz
The fans must know you're on the run. So when they see you, is the reaction different?
Yayo
Yeah, people loving me, you know what I'm saying?
Andrew Schultz
Cause you're at auto.
Yayo
I still think they didn't know I was on the run.
Alex
Yeah. I don't think the public knew.
Yayo
Nobody did.
Alex
I didn't know. He was like. That story was after the fact.
Yayo
Oh, wow.
Andrew Schultz
Okay, okay, okay. So then they snatch you up at Copa.
Yayo
So, yeah, we go to the Copus and we had these security guards they called. We called him gun in the box because he always had his gun in the box. Like, why do you have your gun in the box? If somebody comes to shoot you, you gotta go and get shot the fuck up. So Finn used to call him Gun in the Box. He was like, why do we got these guys calling him Gun in the Box? You know what I mean? Yeah, it's Gun in the Box, right? So we started getting, you know, legal security and shit. Yeah. So legal security. So look, so we, I guess, legal security, whatever. Motherfuckers still had guns around, whatever.
Alex
So they were probably awesome.
Yayo
So they blitzed the car. Once they blitzed the car, 50 was like, nah, you know, it's over for you. And I was like, yeah. Cause once they fingerprint me, it's going.
Andrew Schultz
It's pop up in the system. So did you have to do more time because you were on the run
Yayo
or did you get to. Nah, it was bail jumping. And my charge, it was ran consistent. Yeah, but it was non violent. See, the thing about jail, if you got a nonviolent charge, you got a better chance. Once you got violence on your jacket, robbery, kidnapping, your shit is like, your next charge might be 10 years. If you have no violence on your shit, it's kind of better for you.
Andrew Schultz
How can you be non violent with a gun?
Yayo
Cause I didn't use it, I just had it. Yeah, just gotta call it, like, if you have it for protection. Yeah. Now if I shot two people with that gun, that would be a violent charge.
Andrew Schultz
Why'd you go with two?
Yayo
It might be a misunderstanding. But two is like, you are dangerous. One is a Oopsie daisy. Is that what you said? But I hate going to. Yo, listen.
Andrew Schultz
I hate going to jail.
Yayo
Is that what you said? So look, this is the whole thing though, to any of you kids out there doing crime. Cause there's a lot of crime in New York City and all around the world. Yeah, yo, listen, going to Rikers island has to be. It's like they call it Torture island, the Bridge of pain. It's just the worst. That's probably the most thing I experienced psychologically as a man. Like, that shit's just crazy, bro. Like, soon as you go in there, it's action.
Andrew Schultz
What do you mean? Like someone's pressing you, like just for
Yayo
your first time going to Rikers. Like say you just go to Rikers, right? Like my man with the long hair. What's your name?
Andrew Schultz
Mark.
Yayo
Just imagine Mark going to Rikers.
Andrew Schultz
What do you think would happen? I could go to Rikers.
Yayo
I got the long hair, she's somebody's girlfriend. I'm not gonna say that. I think it's just extortion. Probably. Like, yo look like he got some money. He got long hair. Yo send some, you know, over here, it's like everything is action as soon as you get there.
Alex
Even you.
Andrew Schultz
Like, you must have known people in there.
Yayo
Nah, I knew people in there, but he must. It was. It was.
Andrew Schultz
Cuz he was in the street a little bit too. He's not the first guy from South Jamaican.
Yayo
You think he go to jail? Hi, guys.
Andrew Schultz
There's got to be somebody.
Yayo
He went to private school. Yo, listen, did you. Who? Cranbrook? I told. I told him no. St. Clair's Rosedale. Shout out to St. Clair, Queens. He went to private school. Don't worry, you're not checking him. I know you're not checking him. You went to private school too? Private school, right?
Mark
Yeah.
Yayo
Yeah, from first to eighth grade. I had Haitian parents. They was Catholic. They was heavy on the religion. Yeah, we grew up, you know, first to eighth grade. I told them when I went from the yellow bus. Cause I wasn't living in the real world on the yellow bus, right to the city bus. 8th grade, I had to go to school with Springfield High School 231. These schools back then was like, they're better now. But it was crazy. Springfield was crazy.
Alex
I went to Beach Channel. Every time we played them in football. Always a fight to play.
Yayo
Yeah, Springfield was crazy. Like back in the days a girl threw acid in a girl's face. I was telling them like, you was hearing about that on the news. So I had to go on they bus route. So I was telling them like I was a rookie. I sat in the back of the bus, you know, fucking fights. Girl threw her books on my lap. I'm like, what the fuck is this? I got a uniform on with public school kids? Nah. One day I had my starter. So you're in your Catholic school uniform
Andrew Schultz
and a girl was bullying you?
Yayo
No, she didn't bully. She just threw her books on my lap. Like, fuck it. And I'm like, damn, this is the real world. Cause I wasn't living in the real world. That's crazy, though. Public school was way wider. Wow. Back then. Than Captain School.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Yayo
Captain School was laid back. There'd be a fight once, you know,
Andrew Schultz
probably once a year fighting off a pretty.
Yayo
But like, when I got to the city bus, you started seeing fights. People fighting for breakfast in the morning. I wasn't used to that.
Andrew Schultz
Fighting for breakfast.
Yayo
No, I'm just. Breakfast in the morning, it's breakfast time. Fighting on the bus. Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
Really?
Yayo
How the is mother. So you seventh, eighth grade going through that? Like, damn, this shit's crazy. Cause you were sheltered in the Catholic school. Now you're on the city bus and you're seeing the real world.
Andrew Schultz
Okay. So when you go in for the first time, is there like a convo with 50 where, like, you talk to some people he might even know in there and there's people who can look out for you? Or is it you really kind of.50
Yayo
has so much beef, so it's pretty much you're on your own.
Alex
Oh, shit.
Andrew Schultz
Cause now you. Cause what is it? You said this before. You inherited his beef.
Yayo
The thing with me was, what made it kind of easy for me is people didn't know what Yayo looked like. So I'd be on the bus and he'd be like, yo, yo, yo. I swear to God, to my father, yo, yo, yo, just got cut up, right? And I'd be right behind him like, yo, they talking about me. And I'm like, so they really didn't know us. Like, it took them a while to acknowledge us. Cause remember the first mixtapes, people knew the lyrics, but they didn't know really the names. This is how to Rob Lloyd Banks.
Andrew Schultz
Is that the song?
Yayo
No, how the Rob was when 50 was on.
Andrew Schultz
That was early.
Yayo
That was Columbia days with Tone and Pope.
Andrew Schultz
Okay. Cause that was when I first heard shit start to pop and percolate on the radio in New York.
Alex
But they went on a crazy mixtape run between how to Robin before.
Andrew Schultz
Okay, okay.
Yayo
Cause after 50 got shot, it is crazy.
Andrew Schultz
Like, you don't realize it without social media and not seeing somebody on MTV or bet. You really don't know what these guys look like. Maybe you're seeing them in like the Source magazine or something like that, but you don't have an idea of what they look like.
Alex
And then they was printed out on these little grainy ass pictures and shit like that on mixtapes and stuff like that.
Andrew Schultz
I didn't even know Eminem was white until trl.
Yayo
Come on.
Andrew Schultz
No, I heard the song before on radio. It sounded crazy. Hi, my name is. But I thought it was a black dude making fun of white guys.
Yayo
Oh, shit.
Andrew Schultz
And then I remember seeing it with Jamil. Jamil's not here, but, like, I remember seeing it for the first time with Jameel, seeing the song. I think it was trl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And being like, oh, shit.
Yayo
I always blame my success to Eminem because he's. He's actually, like, I would say, in the top five, one of the biggest artists in the world worldwide.
Andrew Schultz
That's not the same.
Yayo
Without question with him. Like, the Free Yayo shit. Imagine being on Rikers Island.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah. What did that feel like?
Yayo
Yo, it was fucking Eminem at the Grammys.
Andrew Schultz
That's fun. So, yeah, paint this picture right. So you're locked up. It's at the Grammys.
Yayo
Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
They went for what or mwims for and performed.
Yayo
I forgot what he went for. But he performed that time.
Andrew Schultz
And then he's in a free yayo shirt.
Yayo
Free yayo shirt. That's what I'm saying. As for him and 50, I'm always been giving them the props. Cause it's like, while I was in jail, they kept my name alive. Beg for mercy. 50 had my name on the album cover. And then Eminem wore the Free Yale. There you go right there.
Andrew Schultz
So what happened in Rikers when. I mean, obviously guys are shooting, so,
Yayo
you know, you know, Rikers is politics. So they say there's three things. You stay away from the phone, be careful with the newspaper and the tv. Okay. So, you know, so, like, I had my slide on the phone. I definitely got my phone time. Cause, you know, I was cool with the guys. You know what I'm saying?
Andrew Schultz
Who are the guys? Is that the cos or is that like the.
Yayo
Nah, the guys are never the cos, man. The guys are like, you know, the gang members.
Andrew Schultz
Got it. Got it.
Yayo
You know, or the muscle in there.
Andrew Schultz
And how did you connect with them? How did you.
Yayo
Well, you know, they knew. They was kind of like. I wouldn't say they was fans. I just was cool and realized the politics, like, don't come in there being too demanding. Like, if you come in there, learn the politics.
Alex
Yeah.
Yayo
Like, my house, they didn't, like, sneak thieving. So if you sneak thief, that was great for me, like, to be in the house. They didn't care if he was black, white, Mexican. Yo, somebody steal. Yo, somebody stole from my bucket. Cause it turns you. You don't have to come in the island being gangster. It's gonna turn you into whatever it is. Like, if he's in there, he's gonna be like, yo, so what's the rules in here? How does this work? You gotta figure that out fast. So you got these two guys that run the phone. My man Barnes, which was P. Diddy, security guard, shout to him, he got a book dropping, too, telling all P. Diddy shit and all kinds of shit. Yeah, solid, dude. My man Bonds could have used that
Andrew Schultz
book like, five years ago.
Alex
Yeah, Ex executive produced by Fifth.
Yayo
No, no, no, not my fifth. So my man Bonds Barnes was a real big dude. He came out, he was Puff Daddy security. And my man Spanky, he was blood. But the good thing about him is he was Spanish too. So he knew Spanish, but was blood. You know how Bronx motherfuckers is. Bronx got the illest type of motherfucking people. Motherfucker was black and Spanish, so he knew Spanish. So if the Spanish guys were scheming, he knew, but he was blood too, so it was crazy. So they kind of ran the house.
Mark
And you.
Andrew Schultz
And you connect with them early on,
Yayo
you just showed up? Yeah, I connect with them early, you know, they showed me love.
Andrew Schultz
Did anybody press you? Nah, not a single person when you came in?
Yayo
Nah, nobody ever pressed me. Cause nobody really knew who I was. Even the police didn't know who I was.
Alex
How long were you there?
Yayo
I did probably like, probably seven, eight months, four or five months. I'm not sure.
Alex
That whole time, nobody.
Yayo
The half of the time, nobody put two and two. Oh, wow. I was locked up the same time Styles P was locked up.
Alex
Okay?
Yayo
So I remember. And I'd be on the bus and nobody knew. So when the free yo and all that shit happened, that's when they wanted to come put me in protective custody. Cause, you know, they never want to have an artist like Tory Lanez. Shout out to Tory Lanez, you know, pray to God he's good. But, you know, it gets real in jail. Cause, like, you gotta think an artist coming to jail, you number one target. Yep, yep.
Andrew Schultz
And that should create a problem for them.
Yayo
Everybody wanna get a name off. You did any.
Andrew Schultz
Was. Would there. Would there ever be anybody come in that was, like, him? Like, kind of cute? What do you mean him?
Yayo
No, come on. I don't know about that.
Andrew Schultz
Like, you cute little cutie pie with long hair. And then they just try to, like, immediately violate.
Yayo
Well, I was in. I was in C73. So upstairs there was A house for like the gays. That's what you were
Andrew Schultz
exactly married to a guy. I'm straight, okay. I'm a. Oh, you tried all these,
Yayo
you know, kind of things in life. I don't know nothing about that.
Andrew Schultz
He's roast duck. That's caviar pancakes. If he walks in C73, I think
Yayo
they might try to extort him. Cuz there's a lot of extortion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The next thing you know, he might just turn blood or something. Blood now or turn crip.
Andrew Schultz
I can see, I can see he turned blood. I can see some blood dripping out your ass.
Yayo
I would join a game gang.
Andrew Schultz
A straight gang, a heterosexual gang. Now when somebody does do that is absurd. Well, Rikers is different than like prison prison.
Yayo
Right.
Alex
They're not going to be there for long.
Andrew Schultz
So it's more fights than it is.
Yayo
Like you got guys there that stay there for like four or five years,
Andrew Schultz
which is crazy, cuz that's got to be.
Yayo
But it's like, yo, you don't want to be there. Yo, bro, you do not want to be there. That to me, that was my worst experience in life. Yeah, I didn't go up top to the mountains. I did shock. But being in that alone was enough mentally, you know, you wake up dudes getting cut for breakfast or you wake up and you hear fighting. Imagine you hear footsteps, like sleeping and you hear footsteps. What's going on? You gotta alert for, yo, they fighting up there. Alarms ringing, everything's going crazy. Was CSU coming?
Andrew Schultz
Was there anybody?
Yayo
You know what CSU was like the COs when they come with the TSU. The turtles. When the turtles come.
Alex
Oh yeah, they just have all the sweatshirts. Like swat.
Yayo
Almost like SWAT before strip you naked, your ass naked in front of everybody. Put you on your knees, don't look at me. They got the fucking shields.
Andrew Schultz
They would do that to all you guys strip you naked?
Yayo
Yeah, all of us. Somebody get cut? Everybody.
Andrew Schultz
Was everybody. Was anybody measuring? Was that.
Yayo
I'm nothing. Crazy. This is crazy. He's not gonna laugh. I'm thinking about, yo, why the am I here, bro? Somebody wants to smell another man's shit in the morning. Then the guy's girl. You break up with your girl, he want to stab you. Now what the fuck?
Andrew Schultz
Oh, so they're just so emotionally wrecked that they're trying to take out their show and everybody. All of our tour dates in less than 30 seconds. Providence, R.I. march 28, Los Angeles with Jelly Roll the Greek Theater, part of the Netflix Comedy Festival that's May 8th. August 8th, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Washington, D.C. and Charlotte, North Carolina, the weekend of February 19th. I can't wait to see you guys there. Peace and love. And lastly, if you're watching this tonight, on Wednesday, cancel comedy. Alex's show is doing a show at Dumbo house in Brooklyn. That's all over dates in 30 seconds. Let's get back to the show.
Yayo
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Andrew Schultz
Did you have one night of sleep there where you're like, ah, I got good eight hours. That was fun.
Yayo
I mean, you know, you know, it's crazy. If you mind your business and know how to move. Like, don't gamble. Cause you know, you gamble. He like, gambler a little bit. A little bit. They kidnapping him. No. Cause you fucking, you know, gambling debts. You know how that shit go. Arguing over tv. Like the Eminem thing, I went to people, yo, listen, I want to watch Eminem Grammys. Cause, you know, back then the Spanish dudes had Caliente. Remember Caliente? You want behind chicks or everybody in jail used to love that show. Blacks. Black dudes didn't mind watching Caliente. All right, put it on.
Alex
Put it on.
Yayo
So that's how it was. Yeah. Look, man, watch this. Caliente. Watch. Now imagine you could get this channel in jail.
Andrew Schultz
Wow. Okay.
Alex
And then they will always have the Hopper news and weather.
Yayo
Yeah. So we used to watch this. So dudes used to watch Kylie intake.
Andrew Schultz
So it's just a.
Yayo
It's.
Andrew Schultz
It's just a hundred dudes all sitting together watching Kanye.
Yayo
You got the hot cheeks. You ain't seeing no women. You ain't smelling women in years. I don't want to see this dude. But shirtless, dude, that's crazy. Yeah, so we didn't mind watching Caliente because you were seeing the women on there. You know what I'm saying? Bikinis and all that.
Andrew Schultz
Okay. But then you try to put on Eminem. So then you said, guys, can I watch the Grammys?
Yayo
Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
So then they go, all right, we're gonna watch the Grammys. Everybody's cool with that? Spanish dudes are cool with it. Yeah, everybody's cool happens at this point. They know you're Yayo or Nah.
Yayo
Yeah, they know I'm Yayo.
Andrew Schultz
Okay. So then when they see the shirt, is there, like a cool kind of recognition that's happening? Everybody's excited for you.
Yayo
Like, oh, shit, yo. Oh, that's good. Shit. That's crazy. Eminem. That's crazy. Cause you gotta remember a lot of dudes in the hood will be like, yo, we don't listen to Eminem in the car, right? We don't listen to Eminem. We gonna put Jay Z or somebody else over him, right? But for me, when I heard Renegade,
Andrew Schultz
oh, yeah, that was crazy to me.
Yayo
That's like Eminem's classic verse to me. That's what gave him the hood to me before I knew him. So that gave him the hood recognition. Cause to me, him and Em, who you think won that battle on there?
Alex
No question. No comments.
Andrew Schultz
All right, no comment.
Yayo
So just say Jay Z won.
Alex
He won that.
Yayo
I disagree.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah, so does he.
Yayo
I gotta disagree with you.
Andrew Schultz
Ow. Okay, it's just one verse. It's one verse.
Alex
When he starts being honest about Banks versus Fab, then I'm not.
Yayo
So what's not to be honest on that?
Alex
I'm just saying Fab is better than Banks.
Yayo
Yo, you know what Banks would say? You got your nails painted. You can't give an eyeball. His nails is a painted. Giving opinions on hip hop, that is crazy. That's what people are gonna say.
Alex
It's his art. It's art.
Yayo
Nah, buddy, you can't give it. Nobody's gonna take that vote.
Andrew Schultz
If he showed up in prison with the Pokemon on his nails.
Yayo
Oh, nah, he know what time it is. He's supposed to be from Far Rock. He's not even supposed to have that on.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah, but what would happen?
Mark
What would happen?
Yayo
Oh, yeah, he's fooled. They're gonna rob him.
Andrew Schultz
He's calient.
Yayo
That's what Banks would say to him. Like, yo, how can a person not to diss you? I don't care. It's your style. But how can a person with their nails painted judge hip hop? Yeah, hip hop is an aggressive sport. We talking about KRS1 and MC Shan. We talking about Cool G rapping, Eric B and Big Daddy Kane. It had its good side, like when we had self destruction and stuff like that with Ms. Melody. And stop the Violence. Which rappers would never do now, ever. Cause they would never do that. We are the world record that Was like the. We are the world record of rap. It came in aggressive. It came in battle. So when you see, like. I'm gonna tell you a story. Most crazy.
Alex
Most aggressive rappers went to private school.
Yayo
I'm gonna tell y' all a crazy story. Look, look. No, but listen. It's the nails. With the nails. He just put it. We've seen a meeting. We've seen a business meeting. 50's gonna be like, what's going on with this guy?
Alex
He was giving me that energy when he was here.
Yayo
Listen, I'm gonna tell you the truth. Look. So look. And this is why. Shout out to A.S.A.P. rocky. He got the, like, number one album on Billboard. Hip Hop. Hip Hop New York. Cause nobody was really on Billboard. That's true. Right? So I'm gonna give you the perfect example. One day is years, years ago. This is, like, probably 10 years ago. This is like a premiere to the movie. It's Snoop 50 Me. And ASAP pulls up, right? And A$AP could vouch the story. He the first dude I seen with the man purse ever. This is, like, 10 years ago. He had it around his strap. Cause he was familiar going to Europe and has an overseas kind of brand. Shout out to asap, you know. You know, asap Mob. They big, you know, and one of the biggest in Harlem, of course. Yeah. So he had the bag. So everybody's looking like, what the fuck is that? Like, 50's looking like, what, are they putting money in there? Everybody's looking like, what the fuck is that? He pulled me to the side and said, yo, I know you don't know what the fuck this is right now, but watch and see what this is. And now everybody has the man purse. Me, would I do it, like, buy a Birkin? Hell, no. That's more like a girl bag to me. I wouldn't buy a Birkin for, like, 15,000. But it's the style for certain dudes. But it's not my style. You know what I'm saying? I think that's. You know, I see a lot of dudes with the burgers and shit's expensive. I understand if you collect them all that. But hip hop is hip hop. Hip hop was big change. Rakim, Big Daddy King. Not Painted Nails, brother.
Andrew Schultz
Exactly.
Alex
ASAP Rocky got Painted Nails.
Yayo
I never seen it.
Andrew Schultz
I never seen it.
Yayo
And if he doing that, he getting paid from Gucci or somebody.
Andrew Schultz
I'm not getting paid.
Yayo
He could do that.
Andrew Schultz
Yo, why are you doing this? For the love of the game.
Yayo
You don't know.
Andrew Schultz
I got A Sephora deal or some shit like that.
Yayo
So your bank's fab thing is not valid once you take those off, maybe. But on Renegade, I felt like for Eminem to be a new rapper and Jay was established, it was debatable. Nah, you can't say it's not debatable.
Alex
Oh, it's absolutely debatable.
Yayo
He got the hood. Cause I know when I was in the car, still selling drugs and moving around, and I heard that, and I didn't know who Eminem or never met Jay or nobody in the rap game. I was in the car and I was like, damn, who the fuck is that? I got a lion in my pocket. I'm lying. I got the iron in my pocket. Come on, bro. He just don't want to give it up because they don't want to give it to the white boy. Exactly. It's like a black hockey player. It's the same thing. Elvino hated us. Everybody hated us when we signed with Em. But Em did the most for us. So people would be like, yo, Eminem is this. He's racist. He's that. He's fucked up. He's this kind of person. But he put us on. Like, I was like, damn, this shit is like. We got on repeatedly. That's why G Unit is still an overseas brand. We could still go overseas. Like, I went on my own tour. Swiss Alps, Germany, Luxembourg, myself. Cause of Eminem.
Andrew Schultz
Wow.
Yayo
50 still touring, 103 dates. They gotta book him two times. Cause he's selling out the arena. Passing capacity. It's 20 years later.
Alex
Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
So come on.
Yayo
Just 20 years later, give it up for the money. Nobody wants to give me.
Alex
Eminem's my top five.
Yayo
Cause Eminem. Cause a white boy put us on, and everybody's scared to say it. It's like a black hockey player. Yeah, Any hockey. Imagine you had a hockey. Imagine if we had a black hockey player that was super nice. He wouldn't be the best.
Andrew Schultz
They did have one. They had a few, actually. This guy who played for the Montreal Canadiens. Yeah, P.K. sue, man. And there was another guy that played for the Calgary Flames. It was nice.
Yayo
Oh, see, I didn't know that. See?
Andrew Schultz
So there's been a few. There's been a few. But, yes, it's rare.
Yayo
But Eminem. A lot of people was like, oh, yo. But when everybody hated on us, we had to go to go to Detroit and the West Coast.
Alex
I think you got a lot of that.
Yayo
You heard what Irv said?
Alex
No, but I think you got a
Yayo
lot of that he said, I was trying to get Everybody to block 50.
Andrew Schultz
Oh, all them were trying to. Yeah.
Yayo
They said, I wish you would have signed to Universal because they would have blocked. We had to go to Eminem. So one of. Eminem had balls. He had most balls than more rappers. He stood up to Suge Knight.
Alex
Yeah. That's crazy.
Andrew Schultz
Can you tell that story?
Yayo
That's crazy. Y' all just. The whole thing is the industry not saying you're mad, but the critics, they gotta understand we was the most hated. So it's hard to really get traction. Like, for instance, when DJ Khaled is hot, what do motherfuckers do? Stand next to the fire. I'm gonna go get a Khaled.
Andrew Schultz
Right. That's every industry.
Yayo
We didn't have the same advantages because of the hate. So let me give you the perfect example. A lot of Fab's biggest records are what features. Other people wrote the record, and he's featured on there. Did he do a good job on it? Yes. When you go to Karma and all the records that Banks has, He wrote the hook that Avant made Joe. He wrote the hook. He wrote the record. Fab's biggest records are features, brother. And then you want to talk about J and M sold 16 million. Yes. What are we judging artists on? Are you going. You want your artists to be. Be in clubs like me? Cause it's cool. I could do. Or do you want them to be in arenas?
Andrew Schultz
Yeah, arenas. You want them with their nails painted? Or do you want them to survive in Rikers 2, 3 years? But objectively, Fab is nice.
Yayo
Come on.
Andrew Schultz
Objectively.
Yayo
I'm not saying he's not nice.
Alex
That's what I'm saying.
Yayo
Definitely nice. But I feel Banks is better. A lot of his biggest records are features. A lot of Banks biggest records he wrote by himself, Right? Banks mixtape catalog. We was the hottest in the streets. And the reason why I give you the example. Cause Fab was on our tour, buddy. And Fab wanted to sign with us, buddy. So who's better?
Andrew Schultz
This hurts being from far out.
Yayo
I love both of them. They always try to take away from 50 get rich or die trying. It's like 25 years later, he does more shows than anybody now.
Andrew Schultz
You can't.
Yayo
Your favorite rapper can't get a Live Nation contract. Come on. Yeah, your favorite rapper. Come on. Yeah, your favorite rap. Shane, Ken with Beyonce and everybody else. No, no,
Andrew Schultz
your girl.
Yayo
Your favorite rapper can't turn down $8 million Epstein files.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah, exactly.
Yayo
Listen, Eminem, Eminem. Eminem could turn down 8 million, bro. Yes, you done seen that. Eminem turn down towards bro. They'll be like, yo, we give you 300 million, 400 million. I don't want to do that.
Alex
Yeah, way back M's in my.
Yayo
When Haley was little. Yo, I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that to him. Damn. Eminem don't want to about talk. He's turning out 8 mil. When you see him go with the shorty dude. You know the shorty dude that's buying everything. Yeah, yeah, Turkey. What's his name?
Andrew Schultz
Turkey. Or mbs.
Yayo
The guy that does all the Jake Paul fights and all. The new guy. Yeah, he's buying all this. He's buying, like, shout to him, give me a job or something, bro. He's buying everything. He's buying boxing and everything. Yeah, come on, bro. If he have Eminem, yo, give Eminem 8 million. 10 million. That's the kind of money you talking about.
Andrew Schultz
Yo, that was a fire break.
Yayo
What did he say? How did he say that? What do you judge your artists off of? Let me know.
Andrew Schultz
How do you say it?
Yayo
Because there's only a selective rappers that get live nation tours.
Alex
Like, we not disagreeing though.
Yayo
50.
Andrew Schultz
Nah, you're disagreeing.
Yayo
We're not disagreeing. Young boy's going on his first one. Nikki, she just did hers.
Andrew Schultz
Now that you're saying this, fuck you, yo.
Yayo
Really?
Andrew Schultz
Fuck you. You're a little sexy ass, Eminem. You're fucking gay at whatever.
Mark
You get what I was trying to say?
Andrew Schultz
That came out weird.
Yayo
Look, Jay got 10 platinum albums. 11 platinum albums.
Andrew Schultz
Jay' incredible.
Yayo
Yes, he's incredible, But Eminem sold 16 million records. Okay, 11 million.
Andrew Schultz
So this is. This is the thing with 50. It's like 50.
Yayo
Well, it's a house. Oh, he's. See what he said? It's a little difference. He white. Yeah, there goes the hate racism. That's not so. What about 5th sold 11 million.
Alex
But that's what I'm saying. 5th is right up there with Jay.
Yayo
But now here's jay never sold 11 million, bro.
Alex
What are you talking about?
Yayo
He has 10 albums. This guy doesn't know his hip hop, bro. He has a million. A million. A million. A million copies. A million copies. A million.
Andrew Schultz
I've never touched a million copies. Million copies.
Yayo
He's a genius. We're talking about on Black Album.
Alex
Three times platinum.
Yayo
Pretty sure about ten times three. That's not. That's not.
Andrew Schultz
But we're talking about million records. Caviar in Paris. We're talking about.
Yayo
And look it up. Look it up. Cause the Black Album probably did a million, bro. I'm telling you. And Jay is a genius, but nah, Jay is brilliant. You gotta understand the business. Jay is a genius, but numbers are numbers. Look, numbers are numbers. But Jay is a genius. Just like one of his albums.
Andrew Schultz
50 Cent has sold over 30 million albums worldwide.
Yayo
Here we go. Okay, now go to Jay's Black album and see what it sold. And I hating on Jay Z. He's a fucking genius. He's a genius, but you gotta understand the facts.
Alex
But the type of career. I would want Jay's career over 50.
Yayo
You're fucking on drugs. Don't ever listen to. I'm J.C. you got to be. This guy's out as fucking have 11 number one glaze. He's just a Jay Z Glazer. How many number one Glazer? I'm not gonna send you a jazz.
Andrew Schultz
How many Jay Z Glazers?
Yayo
I'm not gonna see you a Jay Z Glazer.
Andrew Schultz
They're a good guy to glaze.
Yayo
I'm a Jay Z fan. I'm not gonna send you a Jay Z Glazer 50 fan. But let's. I'm an Eminem fan. Okay, okay, But I'm just saying the difference. The reason why I think. I think you sound crazy. And you just a 50. You might just be a 50 hater in this.
Alex
We all love 50.
Yayo
Now, look, look. So look, he said he'd rather have jay career over 50, right?
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Yayo
Me personally, no, but yeah, listen, Jay's presentation is good. I think 50 always has the best presentation in hip hop. And what I'm saying is Jay will do a deal and we could look it up. Remember when he had the album with Samsung and they bought a million copies before he even dropped?
Alex
That's a fire.
Yayo
He always found a way to win.
Andrew Schultz
Jay was brilliant.
Yayo
He always found a way to win. When he had his percentage in the Barclays, he used that. He had a good presentation. But when 50 Cent dropped, it felt like Tupac came back from the dead.
Alex
Yes, but listen,
Yayo
no disrespect. No, no, no. And look. Cause let's keep it real. Bring the hammer down. Jay is smart enough. You got to let me finish. All right. Jay is smart enough to stand to what? Stand next to the fire?
Andrew Schultz
Yes. That's what this Kanye album R. Kelly album R. Kelly.
Yayo
Let me talk R. Kelly, who was on Jay Z. Look, when did 50 tour with Jay Z? Look it up. I was in jail. Cause he was standing next to the fire.
Andrew Schultz
That's smart.
Yayo
Jay admitted it.
Andrew Schultz
That's smart.
Yayo
50 had the most hate. Niggas didn't need to stand next to the fire to heat up. That's all niggas do. And it's 20 years later and we're still doing 103 shows. Yes, but when I saw 103 shows, still doing. Got 40 films coming out.
Andrew Schultz
Jay never had the clothes.
Yayo
And I'm not glazing, I'm just telling you. Cause look, listen. The three big dogs out of New York, you never could take P. Diddy, Jay Z, 50 Cent. 50 Cent is way younger than niggas, right? These niggas are much older. They came in the game way before us. That's what you're not thinking about. Jay was successful already. Nas, everybody was successful. We came in the 2000s, later on down the line. And 50 has more success than a lot of bro.
Andrew Schultz
I don't think what. I guess what I would say is like, I don't know if Jay crossed over and had cultural impacts the way that 50 did. And I think Jay definitely did a lot of things to do that. He did the crossover thing with what's the rock Cool group. Linkin Park. Linkin Park. Like, he made these efforts to cross over and he's ubiquitous. Everybody knows who Jay Z is. Massive success, brilliant guy, et cetera. But in terms of like, there's a moment in history where everybody in the world knows this person, knows the music, knows the song.
Yayo
Stop the world.
Andrew Schultz
There's only a few artists, rock, rap, country, R and B that have done that.
Yayo
Cause Jay don't have a.
Alex
This is gonna sound doom, doom, doom. Oh, stop if you.
Yayo
So Oprah was rocking to that. Doom, doom everybody, the whole world, if you to come on the road. He don't understand. He don't understand. When that drop, New York, our biggest enemies, Ja Rule and them even said it.
Alex
Yo.
Yayo
When that drop, we knew it was a problem. You hear that everywhere. I understand. But you see this right here? You see the dream team, Dr. Dre and him. Trust me, that was the biggest impact.
Andrew Schultz
Crazy songs like 99 Problems.
Yayo
But you know, when this dropped, it was over.
Andrew Schultz
Huh?
Yayo
When's Jay Z? We had video games, cereals, but like you said, like you said, we had pajamas. 11 sneakers. The sneakers. So video games,
Alex
11 number one albums.
Yayo
That means that's cuz Eminem blew because he was white.
Andrew Schultz
No, no, no.
Yayo
Black people could be racist too.
Andrew Schultz
That's great.
Yayo
Thank you.
Alex
You can tell he lives out in.
Yayo
He's eating roast duck. From Morocco. Listen, come on. No, no, I'm gonna keep it real. Let's keep it real. You know what I'm saying? Everybody stereotypes. They just don't want to keep it real. Yes, I'm gonna give you a story.
Andrew Schultz
This whole show is,
Yayo
I'm in my Bentley, I'm arguing with a cab dropper. He cuts me off. Come on. I call him a terrorist. And look, I was rude for that. I never. You know what I mean? Fucking terrorists. This is years ago when shit was happening, right? You know what he said? Your father see? So everybody stir for the black man. Yo, when you go in the store, you going to steal or whatever, right? Just cuz I live in the burbs. You think I don't go through when I'm in my supermarket and people's looking like, what is this doing in here? Right? You think I don't go through sometimes?
Alex
Yeah, I know you get stereotyped in the.
Yayo
Look, you get, look, you get, you get criticized in the burbs or the street. But everybody stereotypes. You might see an Asian person where you think, oh, this guy can't drive, Rob. You see, you see? Now you see consideration with ice. You see my ice. Now say ice. Man, I caught ice on you. I'm not that type of person.
Andrew Schultz
Right.
Yayo
I don't get into politics and religion much. That's not my thing. Learned that in media and training, but sometimes. Media training. But you just said, funny, yo, Eminem just sold. Cause he was white. He was good motherfucker. That's when you sound a little racist.
Alex
Eminem's in my time, top flop. But you know, it did help him to be a general success.
Yayo
Dr. Dre was his producer.
Andrew Schultz
I know, too.
Yayo
That helped.
Alex
That helps too.
Yayo
And got the best producer in the world producing the.
Alex
I, I'm saying that helps too. But I'm just saying in terms of
Yayo
stereotype, so we ain't gonna say racist. How about this? How about this stereotype?
Andrew Schultz
How about this? I think what he's trying to say is. Remember when Jeremy Lynn was balling for the Knicks? Remember the Asian guy, Jeremy L. Yeah,
Yayo
he was a sensation. He was a sensation.
Andrew Schultz
Yes, exactly. So I think what happened. I think what happened is that a lot of Asians saw NBA baller who was out there hitting game winning shots. He was tearing up the garden. I remember going to those games, it was like 50% Asian. I'd never seen so many Asian.
Yayo
This is garden. This is what? I'm insane.
Andrew Schultz
So I think what happened is white people who loved rap finally saw Somebody who was really good and looked like him, but he thought he was black. Wait for it. Wait for it.
Alex
He thought Eminem was black until he
Yayo
heard it, but wait for it. He's nice, though.
Andrew Schultz
He also happened to be nice.
Yayo
Nice.
Alex
That's what I'm saying.
Andrew Schultz
Because there have been white rappers before that that didn't reach that level.
Yayo
Yes.
Alex
So it's a combination.
Yayo
He had bars.
Alex
It's a combination.
Yayo
You was thinking, look, this is how he's thinking.
Andrew Schultz
He's the nicest at rapping at the. He got the best producer, and he's doing something that nobody else is really doing. Like that kind of internal angst we weren't seeing in hip hop at all.
Yayo
But you. But you. You're stereotyping. And I'm going to tell you why. I'm not going to say racist. Because it be always. People take it sensitive. Yeah. How can a black person be racist? We stereotype, too. Yeah, we do that. Everybody does. Like I just told you probably do.
Andrew Schultz
What's your favorite, favorite stereotype?
Yayo
They always think a black person is gonna steal when you come into the store. This is what I'm saying. In the suburbs, you act like I'm not dealing with nothing. Did you ever steal when you live in the suburbs? Now? I hate when people say that. And I had to adjust. And you know how white people jokes are. Y' all jokes are different, man.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah, what are our jokes?
Yayo
Y' all just get little dick jokes. Like, I was showing my guy some guys some shit, me traveling. And the guy from breakfast goes, yo, yo, yo, you showing your dick pics again? Like, it's just, you know. You know what I'm saying? I know white people jokes. It's a little different than black ain't fun.
Andrew Schultz
We play with gay a lot.
Alex
Listen, over here.
Yayo
Listen. I got my nails painted. I experienced it, cuz I was on Kill. Tony.
Mark
Nobody care about that. Nobody care about that. I'm asking for the address for three, four days, and this motherfucker didn't get it to me.
Yayo
You ain't even miked up.
Mark
I'm mic'd up, motherfucker.
Yayo
I m. I've been asking for the
Mark
address for three days, and he sent
Yayo
it to me three hours before the sign. I didn't say I want to be on the show by myself. Exactly. That's like him.
Mark
You got to watch.
Yayo
So we was just talking about. For my boy.
Mark
I was here earlier.
Andrew Schultz
He was. He was just. Oh, so he was just saying that he thinks that Eminem's overrated.
Yayo
Yo, now, let me ask you. He said that. Yo, look, now let me tell you.
Mark
Yayo said he think
Yayo
you gonna flip. It's crazy. He's talking crazy, Em. Look, he was talking crazy. Look, he was talking crazy. Show. Look at show on the nail show.
Mark
God damn, those nails is a pause.
Yayo
It's not now you take years of pounds is a pause and a no video. All head niggas, man. Always old headed. You know, Diddy party gonna be dancing.
Andrew Schultz
Did you think about taking up the nails for today?
Alex
N. I didn't, but I wish I did.
Yayo
Sit up.
Mark
Sit up with Uncle Gr.
Yayo
And you know where he's from, Paul Rockaway.
Mark
Oh, my God, it's gangsters out there. I don't even know how you getting away with them nails. It's gangsters in bar right away.
Andrew Schultz
This is Alex and this is Mark. Yes.
Mark
Nice to meet y', all, man. Nice to meet y', all, man.
Yayo
Nice to meet you.
Mark
Nice to meet y', all, man. I met this guy before, so me and Andrew. All right.
Yayo
We good.
Mark
Yo, you actually.
Alex
You met.
Andrew Schultz
You met. You met Mark and Alex, I think, at msg.
Yayo
Yes.
Mark
Oh, you know what, y', all. Right, Copy, copy.
Yayo
That's right. Okay.
Andrew Schultz
Thank you guys very much for doing that.
Yayo
Oh, no, come on, bro.
Mark
It was an honor to do that shit. It was dop.
Yayo
Funniest murder. You disrespectful right here to her face, Diddy.
Mark
You are very disrespectful. Sometimes you got to stand for everything
Yayo
to feel like
Mark
no Diddy on steroids.
Yayo
That's no Diddy on steroids. What's my man name right here?
Mark
You're not.
Yayo
You're not. If he come into business me. You gonna take him serious with those?
Andrew Schultz
No.
Alex
So are y' all both giving ASAP Rocky because his nails are pain?
Yayo
I never seen him do it.
Alex
Are you giving Young Thug because his nails are pain?
Yayo
Young Thug wore the dress.
Mark
Yeah, he still be wearing he Young Thug.
Yayo
People still get shot, though, so it's all good. People still get shot. You wear a dress. You see him when he had. Right? We go, so you're saying there's an
Andrew Schultz
amount of violence that could be associated with you, where you could get away with some.
Yayo
You got.
Mark
There's no getting away with painting your nails, man.
Yayo
That's. That's some.
Mark
That's some fruitcake. Ain't no getting away with it.
Yayo
What about.
Mark
I don't give a fuck who it is. Ain't sad, right? Everybody, they gotta figure it out. Stop painting your nails, my niggas what about clear? Keep it gangster.
Yayo
Try to keep it gangster. Different.
Alex
Why is clear different?
Mark
Because paint is paint.
Yayo
Clear is when you just look. You look fresh and clean.
Mark
When you get a clear, paint is paint.
Yayo
Nah, nah. You got glitter, you got studs. Come on, you from Far Rockaway. You making Queens look bad here. Now, Brooklyn, we all grow.
Alex
We all grow.
Mark
You know Brooklyn. You know how we move in Brooklyn. Exactly. Brooklyn we got. Not this one, baby.
Yayo
You ever met a Brooklyn dude? No.
Mark
We ain't gonna put that.
Yayo
But no cleanest rapper ever paint their nails either.
Andrew Schultz
Let me think about it. Hold on, hold on.
Yayo
Let's think. Brooklyn. Wait a minute.
Mark
50 ain't feeling ll right now.
Yayo
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Wait, why I still like LL music?
Mark
Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying, you know.
Andrew Schultz
So that's how you separate the art from the artist.
Yayo
Nah, I still like his music. I still. I like Wu Tang. Some of them don't like me, but I love their music.
Andrew Schultz
Why don't they like you?
Yayo
Because you gotta understand, when we came
Mark
in the game, he wasn't hit.
Yayo
When we came in the game and 50 had the raw, we knew we was the most hate. See how he's hating? I'm a Jay Z. Fong Jay Z. I don't want my career to be Jay Z. He wants to buy Basquiats and all the other shit. Yeah. Got 40 TV shows. It's 20 years later, we's one of the biggest brands. Like I said, Jay, no disrespect to him, but he was smart. You stand next to the fire. That's what you do. We here with you. We standing next to the fire.
Andrew Schultz
Okay?
Yayo
You think y' all bigger than him? Y' all standing next to the fire. When they start getting deals. I'm smart enough to know when I get a deal. Oh, shit. Yo. 50. 50. They know 50. I'm getting a deal. Cause I stand next to the fire. I'm quite. When you stand next to 50, you standing next to the fire. It's 20 years later, Jay, right now. Last thing I seen was him riding a bike in the Hamptons and buying. What's the guy, Tato Ado? Look up the guy that built his house. I'll say his name all wrong. And getting his house built by the Asian guy.
Alex
I mean, what's wrong with that?
Yayo
Nah, it's cool. It's artistic shit. We went to Roc Nation. They had a lot of artistic shit in.
Alex
But he got Roc Nation. He got Roc Nation Sports, he got.
Mark
I take it y' all Motherfuckers been arguing a little bit in here. So like y' all got some type of like.
Yayo
Yeah. Cause he started saying white. Cause Eminem sold. Cause he was white. So I said that was racist.
Alex
Do you think it helps that Eminem was white?
Yayo
Of course.
Mark
But dude, you can't knock him for having a complexion for the connection. That's how he was born.
Yayo
Motherfucker.
Andrew Schultz
You can't make
Mark
it back.
Andrew Schultz
Exactly.
Mark
He could wrap it up. Happens to be white.
Alex
I put him in my top five M's in my top five.
Yayo
You see? So now this is what you buying paintings and. And building $200 million weird cribs and all that. You going. You that type of.
Andrew Schultz
You want Eminem to be black still
Yayo
going to be chopped cheese and all.
Andrew Schultz
How do you want him to do that?
Alex
I still go to the hood. It's all good.
Yayo
You got to do both. You a going to far rock away with that.
Alex
I might wear gloves when I go.
Yayo
Wear gloves when you went to the office. Everything else is cool, but we ain't going to accept no opinion from you. Like I said.
Mark
Oh, God damn. God damn.
Yayo
Damn.
Mark
That's flagrant. I mean, we on the flag came
Yayo
off like, where you from again?
Andrew Schultz
Far out.
Yayo
Queens. And he came up on some like
Andrew Schultz
Brooklyn, like, are there no nails painting?
Yayo
Like I like I said Fab Def,
Mark
not East New York. You can't do that in East New York.
Yayo
Look up all Fab feature records. Look up all Fab's feature records. His biggest. Let me talk. His biggest records are his feature records. Banks records, Avant Joe, whoever, he wrote the hook.
Andrew Schultz
All right, guys, we gotta take a break for a second. Yes. From this incredibly calm, cool and collected conversation with no strong opinions whatsoever. We need to give Al a break. Yeah, Al, you just need to chill for one second. Poor Al, dude. Ok, you're going through it and you haven't even gotten to the end of the episode.
Mark
I know.
Andrew Schultz
You don't even know how much more he goes through it.
Alex
It gets worse, guys.
Andrew Schultz
For me or better?
Yayo
Way better.
Andrew Schultz
For me, For Mark and I, we are enjoying ourselves. I don't understand all the politics. I don't really know most of the
Yayo
names, but man, that was awesome.
Andrew Schultz
I agree with yo 100%. Okay? I would say 70% of the episode. Yayo's hand is in Alex's face as he's trying to talk. He's just heismaning you half the episode.
Yayo
Yeah. What are the odds?
Andrew Schultz
Al takes off his nail polish before next pod. What's. What are the cows on that. Do we have a number?
Alex
I'm a stubborn nigga. I'm a. I'm a.
Andrew Schultz
There's nothing you can do about it.
Alex
These are in forever.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah, okay, but like, let's talk a little bit about this little super bowl that we got going on. We got Seattle and New England.
Alex
Yep.
Andrew Schultz
Could not care about either team.
Yayo
Come on.
Andrew Schultz
No. You're really a Patriots fan, dude. Bro, I don't think I can name three Seattle Seahawks.
Alex
I can't name one.
Andrew Schultz
Nah, come on. Richard Sherman. Richard Sherman. Okay, he was one. He was one.
Yayo
He was one.
Alex
Let's talk about Kurt.
Andrew Schultz
Nah. If you were, you are forever, bro.
Yayo
Come on.
Alex
That's true.
Andrew Schultz
I'm a Seahawks fan.
Alex
Sierra's husband.
Mark
Sierra.
Andrew Schultz
Sierra's husband. That's good. Marshawn Lynch. Let's go.
Yayo
I'm nice in football.
Andrew Schultz
Can you name two New England Patriots? Julian Edelman. Tom Brady. Man, you guys are nice. I'm nice, bro. I know football.
Alex
The gay Spanish dude that kill people.
Andrew Schultz
Yes. Aaron Hernandez. Allegedly Aaron Hernandez.
Yayo
Yeah. What is it?
Andrew Schultz
Isn't his name Alex?
Yayo
No.
Andrew Schultz
Oh, it was Aaron
Yayo
also.
Alex
You too?
Yayo
Yeah. Give me that.
Andrew Schultz
Give me that.
Alex
We're bringing gills back.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah, give me that. Give me that neck. Yo, this super bowl fast forward. Listen, nobody's watching this. Nobody's watching.
Yayo
But if you are gonna watch it,
Andrew Schultz
the Couch Odds are 68%. It's got Seattle 33% New England. Do we have a bad bunny market? Can we, can. We gotta look at that. Yeah, we gotta watch that bad bunny halftime. Yes, bro. The biggest artist in the world.
Alex
That's what we coming to see.
Yayo
Yes.
Alex
I keep telling you, he's the next Michael Joy.
Andrew Schultz
Oh, who's opener going to be? I like this. Titi. Mi procunto. I'm going with him.
Yayo
Bro.
Andrew Schultz
That sounded fucking racial.
Alex
Yo, he nailed it, but that sounded free.
Andrew Schultz
These are. These are the opening song. Is that what they're saying? What's going to be opening? I think it's going to be Titi mi pork onto.
Yayo
That's why it's going to be.
Andrew Schultz
Why is that funny? You bigots? I'm speaking espanol now.
Yayo
You fucked it up.
Andrew Schultz
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Alex
You from Brooklyn?
Yayo
Niggas are just quiet.
Alex
Who has a better career, Fab or banks?
Mark
I don't really want to get into that.
Yayo
You see?
Mark
You see what I mean is.
Yayo
You know why I say that, though?
Mark
I say that because I don't want to be up here talking about them like they.
Yayo
They both did.
Mark
They think that it's cool.
Yayo
I'm cool with that.
Mark
I don't want to be talking about them. They both had.
Alex
I don't want to be.
Mark
I don't want to be up here, keep going back, keeping that going on.
Yayo
You know what it is for me. We talked about J and M. We wasn't just talking about that. We talked about mad stuff that wasn't, like, the subject. So you could have gave.
Mark
They had me late. I came in. I came in here a little late,
Yayo
but if you don't want to give us a. But I think.
Mark
I think they the same dudes look, but a little bit. You know what I'm saying? But did that. I think Fab had a little longer run than bitch.
Yayo
Listen, listen. Let me explain something. You know what I mean? I'll keep it real.
Mark
Fab had a long run.
Yayo
Let me explain to you.
Andrew Schultz
Okay?
Yayo
Okay. T unit was the most hated rap group in rap history till this day. We turned Hot nine into Shot nine.
Alex
That's true.
Yayo
They hated us. Radio hated us. Ebro said we ruined. No disrespect to Ebro. He said we ruined hip hop radio 50 Cent. We didn't. Our doors was closed to a lot of. So when like Fab or your favorite rapper J. Or they. Khaled is hot. Yeah, let's sign Khaled over here. Get his punk ass over here. No disrespect to him, but that's how Brooklyn. You think Jay's a nice guy behind the scenes from Marcy, from Mary. Yo, get that over here. Tell that. Come work for me. That's how Jay is. Even when what's the streaming Service Tidal, right Title. Yeah, he did Tidal. He had Nikki, he had Khaled. All these people, right? Look up and see what Jay Z sold title for. And nobody got no money. Look up that.
Andrew Schultz
Oh, wow.
Yayo
Did somebody get any money off of that? Nikki was hot as fish grease. I hate on Nikki. She was hot as fish grease. From title drop. How much? 302 million.
Alex
That's a good deal.
Mark
People got money from there, though. You can't. Artists got money from there.
Yayo
Stake in music service title Jack Dorsey square. But what? 2, 2? 20, 21.
Mark
You got to make sure you read that correctly, man.
Yayo
I don't give a. We heard him. We heard you say that. Don't try to service titled the Jack Dorsey Square in 2001. Reported 302 with initial report report suggested 350 million Jay's residual. Now you making a prove himself W residual. Wasn't nothing in there.
Mark
I was just listening.
Yayo
I wasn't looking.
Mark
I was listening.
Yayo
Yo, this guy does the rapper. He don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck.
Alex
N I think the apod should just be yatu y.
Yayo
You don't need guests. I want guests. We want guests, but we can't have guests because he do the rapper.
Mark
He think he don't disrespect people in these interviews.
Yayo
What do I disrespect? Jay Z? Thank you. Thank you.
Mark
He don't think he disrespect.
Yayo
Thank you. Let him know. Let him know. Let him know. Let him know. How am I dissing Jay Z? I said. I just said Jay z, Diddy and 50 is like the top niggas in New York. I always give Jay Z his pops. How do I say? I just say he do business different than other niggas.
Alex
You just said that he closed his deal and nobody got paid off.
Yayo
Yo, Joey, look at who got paid.
Mark
We breaking it down over here.
Yayo
Who the got paid also?
Andrew Schultz
He covered his mouth when he said it, bro.
Yayo
Come on.
Andrew Schultz
It's different.
Yayo
You know Jay Z from Brooklyn.
Mark
I like this. Like how we get to look up like on his always a little. A little bit.
Yayo
Who made money? Who made money?
Mark
Oh, this is interesting right here.
Yayo
We don't see nobody inquiring starring some who required off the top title sale.
Mark
He think it's become because of me we ain't going to get no guests.
Andrew Schultz
Exactly.
Mark
He think it's because of me we ain't getting no guest. This guy.
Yayo
Yo, this just going overseas with who got paid though? Jay Z, Rough Riders. Nobody helped him like that.
Andrew Schultz
Oh, really?
Mark
Shout out to R. I got a bag of guns from Rough Rid. I had so much drama at that time. That helps.
Alex
That helps.
Yayo
I'm talking. You got a bag of guns. It don't matter.
Mark
Shout out to my D.
Yayo
Statue of limitations.
Mark
God, I shot people a long time ago.
Andrew Schultz
It's over.
Mark
It's only seven years.
Yayo
After that. We don't talk about those multiple. Who got paid? Beyonce. Who. Who got paid?
Alex
Rihanna, Kanye, Alicia, 16
Yayo
Nikki. What was man?
Alex
They had a much smaller steak because he made the.
Yayo
Of course. A smaller. What you think.
Andrew Schultz
He doing tricks?
Yayo
Brock Nation don't care. Nobody care about Uzi. And a couple people over there. Hold up.
Mark
If they say they got 8.9 million a piece or they got that 9 million.
Yayo
3%. Where did say 3% at? Did they get that?
Mark
Did they get that?
Yayo
That the split? 3%. 99 million.
Alex
Nah. Each had 3%.
Yayo
3%. Shut the fuck up. That ain't no payout. 3% ain't no money.
Mark
So was that a piece or was that.
Yayo
It looks like a combined payout.
Andrew Schultz
So they probably each got like a mil.
Yayo
So you go east, he got 302. See, Jay is a genius. He knows how to get.
Alex
Come on.
Yayo
When that nigga from Philly wrote Give Me that Funk that sweet, he ain't get no publishing off that. Probably Jay is a genius, you know.
Andrew Schultz
Who are those guys?
Yayo
My man from Philly. Look at him up that wrote the hook. Give Me that Funk, that sweet thing, that gushy stuff. Gucci stuff.
Alex
Really?
Yayo
Oh, I don't know. Come on, bro.
Andrew Schultz
Weren't they two dudes?
Mark
But we got to find out. They had to scoop that up.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah. Chris and Nef. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Yayo
All right. There's more. There's. There's numerous. We can look up. Like you can look up when Jay Z said, sometimes the rap game remind me of the crap game. And that was his demo and Irv Gotti and was listening to it and look up 5050 comments. Inspiring. It's the same kind of record shit. You gotta. You don't know your hip hop. See, you don't know nothing. You got glittery nails. Wait, wait. Damn. Yo, wait.
Alex
You say Jay Z bit.
Yayo
That's just. Look up. Look up 50 Cent, Pimp C and Bumpy. Look up what year that was done. A pimp ain't a pimp with no hoes. And then look up Jay Z a couple of years later. With who? The same two artists with the same brain. Record content, Pippin. What was it? Look it up. You don't know Your Hip hop brothers. I'm just saying. But they know who rap is. Now. Nobody.
Mark
Not with those nails.
Yayo
So look, he's the type of. We gonna hate on the Beastie Boys, too. Oh, come on.
Alex
I can't wait
Yayo
till. Brooklyn white boy rappers. Hold on, hold on. Before we go into that, let's name a list of dope white boy rappers. Third base. Go to third base. Them n. Let's not act like they wasn't nice. I was a fan of them Beastie Boys. Was a fan of them. And Paul Wall.
Andrew Schultz
Yes, look.
Yayo
Paul Wall.
Andrew Schultz
Bubba Sparks.
Yayo
Bubba Sparks. Now listen. Now this is what I want to say. And I know he's racist.
Mark
I can't with this. I can't with this.
Yayo
Jack Miller RIP man, keep it real. Vanilla Ice went diamond. Yes, thank you. Let's not act like you wasn't rocking the Ice Ice, baby.
Mark
It should have that hanging over the.
Yayo
How many movies was Vanilla Ice song in? Ice Ice, baby. He's still getting checks. My. See, you think the wrong way. You like? Yo, this nigga's nice. You want the. In the basement. We want the.
Mark
And I ain't gonna Jack Harlow be rapping his ass off too.
Yayo
Paul.
Mark
Jack Harlow. Rap like a man.
Yayo
Vanilla ISO 11M. Let's see how many records Vanilla ISO. Over 7 million copies in the US 25 million globally.
Andrew Schultz
Wow. Damn, Al.
Yayo
Now what artist you want? The bum. You want the people. I'm black. You want that artist? I want that artist right there to make money. Cause that's what it's about.
Alex
So you want Vanilla Ice's career?
Yayo
I like Vanilla Ice. I'm not saying I like Vanilla Ice. I want one song. That song sold more than this whole album.
Mark
But you don't want 11 number one
Yayo
albums off of a song. Nah.
Andrew Schultz
Hold a convo. Is it Vanilla Ice or Jay Z?
Mark
Definitely.
Andrew Schultz
That's not the convo.
Yayo
That's not the convo. The convo is a. He's saying, look. Cause we saying. And he saying I hate on Jay. I said, Jay has 11 to 12 platinum albums, which is success big. I said he's the. I never hate on him. I just say he do business differently.
Mark
We might not get a Jay Z interview.
Yayo
But what you say? He ain't. He ain't giving either. He giving. Andrew50 would have seen with the nails. Like, yo, what the. This out of here.
Mark
What was the beef?
Yayo
Or what was the. So the beef? I said 50 sold 11 million records on one album. That's like. Only like certain artists like DMX, Nelly, like, niggas will say, oh, Vanilla Ice. It's only like a certain number of people that sell those kind of records, bro.
Andrew Schultz
What's that girl's name?
Yayo
I don't care if it's Vanilla Ice. He sold Travis Kelly back in the days. Whoever was on tour was happy as hell. Different number.
Andrew Schultz
I couldn't remember Travis Kelce's girl. Travis Kelce's girl. I couldn't remember how you remember Travis Kelce, bro. Dude, that's Travis Kelce, man.
Yayo
But come on, you don't know. I'm tired of like people. No.
Alex
So you got mad cuz I said I would prefer Jay z's career over
Yayo
50's no, I'm not mad at you. That's your opinion. I just said I would prefer 50s career over Jay Z's. It's cool. Cool.
Alex
Yeah, but what about they both great?
Andrew Schultz
What about Travis Scott's career over Jay Z's career?
Yayo
Travis Scott is another one too. He sells out shows. He's big worldwide. He's big worldwide. See, you just Jay. I'm not saying Jay is not big, but 50 Travis, there's other dudes that are bigger overseas than me. I don't know.
Andrew Schultz
I don't know. I don't know if Jay could sell the tickets with Travis.
Yayo
I'm trying to tell you.
Alex
Yeah, but people put Jay in that goat conversation. Nobody, even though Travis sells more, nobody puts him in like the lyrics.
Yayo
It doesn't matter.
Mark
He can look at Travis like a real rapper. Rapper though. I think he wants to entertain.
Alex
Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. If you ask me killing them.
Mark
I don't think people looking at people don't look at Travis Scott like I'm looking for bars from Travis Scott.
Yayo
They don't look at.
Alex
I want Jay Z's career. Cause I want to be honored for. Hey, I'm the nicest nigga.
Yayo
I would want 50's career because he just did 103 shows 20 years later with Live Nation. And you know, n be talking like two 300M's conversations just like Jay. Nah. And you gotta remember Jay came out
Alex
before at home collecting checks.
Yayo
So is 50. What do you think he's saying? 50's doing the same.
Alex
I know they both. They both doing that, but I'm just
Yayo
saying you just don't like 50 like Jay Z and it's cool. Okay, you just a Jay Z. You're from Queens, but you're reverse. Yeah, cuz you like Jay Z and fast. Man. We have a problem. Y' all say Houston, we Got a problem, Far Rock? We got a problem. I'm Queens all day. That's it, man. We got the best rappers.
Andrew Schultz
New York all you haven't mentioned Nas. We got from Queen, of course.
Yayo
Nas.
Mark
Yo, listen, N say I remind him of Biggie.
Yayo
Salute to Nas.
Mark
That's my guy. He wrote that on Twitter. That's my guy right there.
Yayo
Did Nas say Queens always run? You ask.
Andrew Schultz
Ask Russell Simmons.
Yayo
There you go.
Mark
What you talking about, man?
Andrew Schultz
That's from why are we asking?
Alex
Are we really asking Russell Simmons.
Yayo
Queens. Queens. Ch ll, run dmc. Yo, why the game? Why don't you rep queens, man?
Alex
I rep New York all day. Oh, my God.
Yayo
You got to understand. The biggest rap group in the world, I'm always going to say is Run dmc.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah, Queens.
Mark
And out to my guy Red.
Yayo
Now, what's the song that they had with the rock group back in the days? Bring that back. Can you play? Pull that up so we could do our hip hop knowledge. And it starts from Queens. Yeah, teach them something. I'm gonna teach em. You don't know nothing. We got glittery nails. Yeah, yeah, right. Aerosmith. What was the name of the song again?
Andrew Schultz
Walk this Way.
Yayo
Walk this Way. Wasn't this the first song on MTV from a black group? Hip hop group.
Andrew Schultz
Oh, really?
Yayo
Yes. Let's look up Joey. That's what Joey's there for. Was.
Mark
It was that first rap. It was to commercialize hip hop.
Yayo
Came from Queens. Shout out to Run dmc. Rest in Peace Gym, Master J. Yeah. Motherfuckers don't know they hip hop. So we, you know, we could say Bronx started it, but who commercialized it? Was Queens.
Andrew Schultz
Russell commercialized it for sure.
Yayo
You know what I'm saying? Now, do you find anything, Joey, about MTV or something like that? Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
First feature on MTV was Run DMC for Rockbox. But it was Run dmc.
Alex
Why can't we celebrate Everybody?
Yayo
Remember. Remember that Christmas album?
Mark
He said, why we can't celebrate what?
Alex
Everybody, this is why G Unit has
Yayo
so much, much problems.
Mark
Told me that 50 said he started a lot of.
Yayo
You said, l started a lot of.
Mark
He said a lot of is because of this right here.
Yayo
See, this is why Hip hop is up. His name is Uncle Murder. He's talking about start. We can't even have a business. Me, we got a Ch to the. Lenny Gr to him. Listen to me. Hip hop is always been what, competition? Yes, right. We might say, oh, y', all. You can't even have a business. Listen, listen, listen. Every rap battle in the world, we Ate up. You was. Don't keep it real. Hip hop wasn't boring too. Kendrick and Drake, you loved it. You're a hip hop guy, right? You got your glasses.
Mark
Yeah.
Yayo
So look, blame it on the brain, y'. All. Look fire. So look, Blame it on the PR
Mark
Shout out to the PR
Yayo
When KRS won, right?
Alex
Yeah.
Yayo
And that's. That's like. That's one of me and 50's favorite rappers. KS won my top five from back in the days. I'mma put Big Daddy Kane, Eric B and Rocky.
Mark
Where's Daddy came from?
Yayo
But he was signed to a queen.
Mark
I asked you a question. Where's McDaddy came from?
Yayo
He was signed to a queen.
Mark
I want him to ask you a question. Where's McDaddy?
Yayo
He was signed to a Queens nigga.
Mark
Where M Daddy came from?
Yayo
He was signed to a Queens. Answer the fucking. He was signed to a queen.
Mark
Where M Daddy came from? Where he came from?
Yayo
From Brookly. Thank you.
Alex
Brooklyn.
Mark
Finish up. Go ahead. Finish that top five.
Yayo
So look, my top five. Big Daddy K. Big Daddy K. Eric being Rakim.
Andrew Schultz
Biggie, obviously.
Yayo
No, no, I'm talking about for we
Mark
see when we talk about.
Yayo
See when we start hip hop, we gotta start from the 80s.
Andrew Schultz
Got it.
Yayo
To the 90s.
Andrew Schultz
Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it.
Yayo
So we gotta go. We gotta go to Big Daddy Kane, Rakim, Rak Rakim. We gotta put KRS1 in there.
Mark
Kuji Rap. Let's go. Queens.
Yayo
I will put Coogy rap.
Andrew Schultz
What about epmd?
Yayo
I think I will put. But that's a group. We can go to groups.
Mark
EPMD was popping, so I'm not coming from.
Yayo
I'mma keep it real. I know fifth got a little beef with him. But I'mma put. LL has to be like before Kuji Rap.
Alex
The fifth.
Mark
That's this. Go ahead.
Yayo
Nah, you got to think. LL had no.
Andrew Schultz
LL was a superstar.
Yayo
Of course.
Mark
Nah, nah, of course not. I was on one of the LL albums I saw.
Yayo
It's all good.
Mark
I was on one of the LL albums.
Yayo
You put LL there and then I top five. I gotta put Slick Rick over Coog rap. Sorry.
Mark
I love my top. Slick Rick was that dude. I'm not gonna lie. He made me want to write stories in my rap.
Yayo
That's why I always say top 10. Cause I would go. I would go, Dougie Fresh, Coogee Rap. You know what I mean?
Mark
I never looked at Dougie Fresh as a rapper. He was the more the bugging.
Yayo
But he still come on. He had his I know.
Mark
I never looked at him like the rapper too.
Yayo
No, of course.
Mark
But I said he was like more of an entertainer than a rapper.
Yayo
Like that.
Mark
How I looked at it.
Yayo
He was lit back then.
Mark
Of course he was that dude. He was damn near like a. A puff back then.
Yayo
Cause we said what we said. Big Daddy Kane, Rakim. Rakim, who else?
Andrew Schultz
Slick Rick, we said Cool G Rap.
Yayo
I would have to put. I'll have to put LL right there. I go, LL Slick Rick, five.
Andrew Schultz
All right. What about our generation, the people that we started watching growing up? So we're talking about 90s to talk
Mark
about the biggies and the Jay Z shit like that.
Yayo
Yeah. Nas, dmx.
Andrew Schultz
The peak of New York hip hop, dmx, mobb, Deep.
Yayo
Shit like that. Where you was like, oh, man, definitely.
Mark
Word, they was coming.
Yayo
But Jay, you gotta put Jay. You gotta put Jay there. You gotta put Biggie, you gotta put. And that's another thing. What should be different? If Biggie was alive,
Mark
Of course it would be.
Yayo
Biggie to me was like, he was just the epitome of a rapper. Yeah. Because he was fat. And like, he'll say, I'm a fat black nigga with the ugly as ever.
Mark
However, I stay Gucci down to the side.
Yayo
He was just fat. So, like, the first fat dude we really seen get fly, I would say is probably. The Fat Boys wasn't Fly. They was cool.
Mark
You got to give that to Heavy D, though.
Yayo
Heavy D. Heavy D was the first Fly.
Mark
Yeah, I'll give Heavy D that.
Yayo
Heavy D was like the first fat Fly. Yeah, the Fat Boys, you know, Rest in Peace, Heavy D. Yeah, they were. They the Fat Boys. They was just the most commercialized.
Andrew Schultz
When you. When you were coming up and you were like in the streets, were you also going, I'm going to be around rapper one day? Like, was that aspirational or did those things just kind of converge?
Yayo
I'm from Queens, so the music was always aspirational. They had like the backyard parties. Like, I made my man Bobby, he was across the street. So remember when the boombox came out? Yeah. Like, my parents, they didn't get us no batteries. We couldn't walk around. We had to plug our up. And I remember me and my brother listening to Run dmc and we had to double take shit, but we had to plug it up on the porch. My man had the batteries. Then he had the Equalizer. Issue was way better. That's what it was like, plain tape. Like, I remember when the Run DMC tape came. Play a tape to the Tape pop. You know, it was like crazy boomboxes back in the days. Dookie link trains. So it really came from us watching the drug dealers. And back then, the drug dealers kind of made the style and the fashion for the rappers, you know what I'm saying?
Andrew Schultz
So the rappers were emulating the drug dealers. Some of the rappers were drug dealers. Definitely. To kind of make it out, you
Yayo
gotta think with Jam Master Jay, when he started the Adidas with no laces, that came from jail, right? So that's when. Back in the days when they was wearing Adidas, they was wearing Adidas with no laces. That was a jail thing, right? You know what I'm saying? You gotta think Adidas. That shit blew up. Hip hop brings a lot of fashion to the forefront. And now we finally getting our. Just do. When you see a. ASAP Rocky doing Gucci ads or seeing Pharrell shout out to Pharrell doing Louis or seeing what Pharrell.
Mark
What Virgil was doing.
Yayo
God bless you. Because look at Dapper Dan back in the days when he was making the dope jackets for Alpo and everybody that people are kind of emulating now. So it's like hip hop. We didn't know about coogees too.
Andrew Schultz
But, like, in your head, when you're in the streets still, are you still. While you're rapping a bit? Like when you connect with Fif initially, are you guys connecting on street shit first, or were you doing your own street shit?
Yayo
And then the connection was wild. It's because, like, we was rapping and we was.
Andrew Schultz
So you guys knew each other from music first?
Yayo
No, I knew 50 from being on the block.
Andrew Schultz
From the neighborhood?
Yayo
Yeah, from being in the neighborhood. Just being. Rapping was just like more of a hobby. So, like, our favorite DJs, like, we used to. The first people to both in my neighborhood was Lost Boys, Rest In Peace feature. Ty, we from 134 and God Brewer, they just put a mural over.
Mark
I was the first feature I ever did. Mr. Cheeks, man.
Alex
Wow, that's fire.
Andrew Schultz
That's crazy dope.
Mark
That's my first feature I ever paid for. Feature I ever paid for. If you let me talk my.
Yayo
I'm sorry, man. So in the hood, back in the days, we had DJs like Grandmaster Vic. That's when my man Rough Hands, he was a dj. Rest in Peace. So he was a dj. So we used to go to Jamaica Avenue. That's the good days. No computer party get shot up. All the parties get shot up. You gotta take eight days.
Mark
The good Days, right? Parties get shot up.
Yayo
Good old house. Party get shot up. Good old days.
Andrew Schultz
That was the expectation. That was the expectation that the.
Yayo
Imagine, you know, imagine you being a dj, right? Look, imagine you being a dj. Hole in the world party, you know, in the hood, that's what we grew up on. You in Queens, shit gets shot up. No computer. We gotta take eight crates now, carrying them out to the car. I mean, you know, if the shit gets shot up, he gotta get his crates no matter what. That's the experience we had growing up in hip hop. So my man basement, you know, we all sold drugs. When it get hot, we go to his crib. We all was in mischief, but we was good drug dealers. We, you know, help ladies across the street and like that. Help the community, giving people credit.
Mark
That's right. You only got eight.
Andrew Schultz
A Christmas deal.
Mark
That's why my man got his blessings, man.
Yayo
I was a nice guy. Help old ladies across the street. You know what I'm saying? So we go to my man's crib, and he had the equipment. We go down there, 50 will be rapping. Motherfuckers be rapping. But freaky time Lost Boys blew up. So, you know, everybody from my hood. Oh, oh, oh. It was Lost Boys everywhere you go. We were still selling drugs, you know. Shout to J Ball. That's his brother. Shout to J Ball. Rest in peace, Ty. What? I mean, it's Sun Rap now. Little tie. Huh, huh, huh. So everybody was not out, was they? Dance Freaky ta. Everybody was fanned out, but we was still like drug dealers. So we was looking at. At it like, oh, they taking off. And so fifth, you know, he was. He was like, drug dealer. 16, 17. Fifth was like, 16, had binges.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Yayo
So he was the man in the hood. It wasn't like he's a clown. Knew him. He was 16. Would have been 17.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Yayo
You know what I'm saying? Coming through. So he look selling my drugs, everybody, so he'll come through on his bully. Cause 50 was always a troublemaker on the block. Niggas be like, yo, hey, what's a N coming? Oh, here he go. Start like 50, saying, I'm crazy. Crazy. But he's crazy. Yeah, but he was a marketing genius.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Yayo
I'll give you an example. Back in the days, we had 31 bunnies, right?
Andrew Schultz
What's that?
Yayo
It's the size of a capsule, right?
Mark
So 50 capsules that you put the crack in for the people that don't understand that's watching.
Alex
Thank you.
Yayo
50's gonna be mad at. I argue in on a jet later. But this is why I say he was always a marketing genius. I don't know what Jay Z did not to expect, but 50 was marketing genius. So what he did, we had 31 bunnies about this size. You know what I'm saying? And then what he did was. What 50 did was he called up his Brooklyn guys. Cuz, you know, we always hire Brooklyn guys.
Mark
Shut the up.
Yayo
If guys had the money, we hired a Brooklyn guys.
Mark
They hired no Brooklyn Rusty guns. Brooklyn know what's up. That's all Brooklyn.
Yayo
No, you know. You know what I'm saying?
Mark
Fifth came to get the official Brooklyn.
Yayo
You got the rusty guns and stuff. So you got the rusty guns. They crazy, these guys. You know, his Brooklyn guy's temperament, you know what I mean? Was a little more violent. We on go. We on go time. Queens is like a Harlem. Like Queens and Harlem are similar.
Mark
I always tell him 50 like a Brooklyn look like real talk.
Yayo
But look, this is what you gotta understand. Queens and Harlem is the same. Get money, get fresh. The Bronx and Brooklyn to me was always, shoot you up. Well, as niggas. Oh, Bronx niggas in the Brooklyn N in the building. Where, where, where n are looking like where?
Alex
Oh, always, always dudes that would mess up the party.
Mark
Yeah, I give you that.
Yayo
I give you that. So that's how it was back in the days. That's what I'm trying to tell him. So you know 50 AD is Brooklyn N. And they was real. You know why? Because Queens niggas was bougie. They would get on the train, hold 50 down. They would come, we'd be on a. We be on tour. Niggas all chilling in one room. Cause they from the projects. So they shit was like, they all being one room. Know what I'm saying? They was called 551 back then. His man Ja passed away. So I went on tour with them. And it was a camaraderie. But when they argue, yo, I crippled somebody. I shot him in the back. The arguments was crazy.
Mark
Sound like a Brooklyn argument. We like arguing about who caught the most, who did the most shootings and shit like that. Who shot the most people.
Yayo
Yeah, they had a shootout at the end of the tour. And they was friends. That's how Brooklyn. These guys not like that, bro. You know Brooklyn brothers had shootouts. Man, she's crazy. Hold on.
Andrew Schultz
There were friends that shot at each
Yayo
other after we came from tour. They was on tour. This is how to roll. Okay, Came off tour. They was from Brooklyn 50 had non brook. Brooklyn niggas. They get on the train, you know what I mean? These are the guys got kicked out studio. Beyonce. We was working on Beyonce early. Remember that? Okay, respect, Respect, right? We had. We had worked with Destiny Child too, but this, I think. Before Jay Z. Yes.
Alex
I mean, I got a feature.
Yayo
We definitely ain't getting no Jay Z. Just saying we was in the studio with her early. We was in the studio. We got kicked out. So these guys, they didn't care. They bring their rusty guns. Shit was crazy. Rusty. 38, 300 and. 57s, scars on their face. One dude named his face looked like Frankenstein, had scar on his face. Guys wake up for breakfast with guns. Like, these guys are crazy. So we went on tour with them with how to Rob. This is before 50 headshot. We had records with Beyonce and all. I've been around since then. That power of the dollar always been something aggressive.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Yayo
When you look at the history of hip hop. See, he doesn't know, cuz. You know. Come on. The Glitter Nails would never rock. What I'm saying, back in the days were like fucking chasing Jack and Scooter and tutting them like that. Would never rock around the guys that you. Times have changed.
Alex
Times have changed.
Andrew Schultz
So you're saying at the end of the tour, the guy, the Brooklyn dude.
Yayo
Oh, yeah, they had a shootout, they shot one guy. Spent too much money on hoes or whatever, you know, Miami. They was selling that or whatever, Whatever. He went to Miami. He was the only nigga getting. I was like, how you getting, man? He was like, he's buying that. He spent all the bread. This is back in the day. He spent all the breads, man. Shot him up. Wow.
Andrew Schultz
And did he live?
Yayo
Yeah, he just got shot. The up came from limping. Yo, sun shot me, told 50 it was just crazy. And then they.
Andrew Schultz
They squashed it afterwards.
Yayo
No.
Mark
Oh, they ain't squashed that way.
Yayo
No, it wasn't squashed. One just shot the up. The other shot the out of the. You mean they squash it. It's rare that happens, right, Martin? It's not with Brooklyn. It's rare.
Mark
Yeah, that's why. But it happens sometimes. I was.
Yayo
You got understand the norm for people. Like how you wake up in the morning and he brushes his hair. Everybody doesn't live that life. There's a real world out there where people's going through in the shit. You go to Bronx, Harlem, some of these places, the kids really don't want to be there. They just forced to be there. And they evict them. Circumstances. Cause what? Cause you just live in that neighborhood. So you that gang now? Cause New York has a lot of gangs.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Mark
And it's.
Yayo
They don't play.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah, yeah.
Yayo
And LA has a lot of gangs,
Andrew Schultz
but the gang culture feels different here than in la.
Yayo
Nah, it's crazier.
Andrew Schultz
Not in terms of one is worse than the other, but the organization over there feels a little different. Like, I don't see the same, like a color warfare here. That it is over.
Alex
Less organized here.
Yayo
I would say. Nah, I wouldn't say that.
Andrew Schultz
Well, how does it work?
Yayo
I would say back in the day. No, I'm just saying. I would say people look at gangs different from New York because when you look at the cannabis game, which we opened in the dispensary soon. You know what I'm saying? Unit. When you look at the gang, the gang game, it's grandfather then. So gang. Gang started in la. So they gonna always get that respect.
Mark
Chicago too.
Yayo
Chicago too. Chicago too. Because, you know, LA gets that, of course, that respect because they started it. But as for gang structure in New York, there's thousands of gangs. Yeah, yeah. But that's the thing.
Alex
It's like they have two big gangs and then they have subsequents of those two. Big and la.
Yayo
La. Oh, no, there's plenty of. You got Mexican gangs, but I mean.
Alex
But out here is.
Yayo
You got Asian gangs out there.
Alex
Out here is like everybody's hood. You just have a clique and then all.
Yayo
Nah, everybody. Nah. You got blood, you got gd, you got folk.
Mark
There's so many gangs.
Yayo
You got Joe, there's a million. You got fucking Dominican power. You got Ontario, there's so many.
Andrew Schultz
Was there concern when you guys were traveling in the early days, like before you blow up, you're huge. The early days of traveling, you're going to these other markets. Was there a concern?
Yayo
There wasn't a concern. Because like I said, I'm not a glaz. 50 was a genius. Cause what he said was, we're never gonna choose a side. We're never gonna turn blood and never gonna turn Crip. People wanted me to turn blood when I was on the island, but I was like, fuck it. I'm gonna listen to what 50 never choose a side. So if we do. What's up, Blood? What up, Cut? Which is one of the biggest.
Andrew Schultz
Oh, wow. Oh, you shouting them all out.
Yayo
Yeah. What's one of the biggest records in the world? This guy. You know what I'm saying? When you think about that, right? No, no, you do. But you love Jay Moore and it's cool. It's not cool. Think about this though.
Andrew Schultz
Refuse to live in a world where someone loves you.
Yayo
That's like. So now when we going to la, the Bloods love us and the Crips love us because we not just like 50 said on his mixtapes. Cuz our mixtapes was killing albums back in the days. But he hated fellas. Shout to banks. Nah, I was shout out to Banks. He's on tour now. Fab is podcast. But we'll get back to that. Damn you. My podcast. So what? I was made for this. I'm natural. You have been podcast. When I go places. So they were shout to Kill Tony. I think Legend of Skanks too.
Mark
Legend of the podcast.
Yayo
Yo, so look. No, he don't know Kill Tony's another level. He don't.
Andrew Schultz
Oh, it's huge.
Alex
I like that you're going on both
Yayo
platforms like the White boys and world with you and Charlemagne for the big show.
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Yayo
You know what's crazy? The rich guys never wear no jewelry. I told them we was at a dinner one time and we're with Tillman, the guy owner, Houston rocket.
Mark
Owned about 800 restaurants.
Andrew Schultz
Just looking regular.
Yayo
Me and in thanks hand. And there was. There was a big DJ there too. DJ that came there. Oh, my God. Pause. DJ came through there and he had the littlest chain and murder hat. I said, murder don't wear no jury to.
Mark
But guess what, though. The D. I was there, though. A big fan of this safe right here. He like, yo, wow. He was like, wow, do it open. I said, yes, it open. You got a gun in somebody.
Yayo
I think it was D.J. russell. It's exotic.
Mark
You know what I'm saying?
Yayo
You understand?
Mark
Come on, man. It's a bag right here. When you getting that money, you could do this.
Yayo
Yo, look, look. Listen, DJ R. So I'm looking around.
Mark
Shout out to DJ R. It might
Yayo
have been DJ R. Now he has the littlest chain in the world. Like, he has the littlest chain. This guy gets a million a show. Tillman own 900 restaurants. I'm surprised 50s. This is the kind of meetings 50 has too. Like Jerry, Jerry, Jerry. 50s would tell me, this guy owns Astro. There's a.
Andrew Schultz
There's a hilarious comedian named Damian Lemon who once said something to me. He goes. He goes. Sometimes dudes will go broke trying to impress broke dudes. And that could be the. The jewelry thing. Like spending all this money on jewelry to impress people who are impressed by jewelry. But Tillman don't care about jewelry, so he owns a basketball.
Mark
So I started looking at 800 restaurants.
Yayo
So I start looking at the billionaires and I'm like, yo, let me see what kind of watch you got on. Apple watch. I'm like, see? See? Murder. Told you. Don't wear them chains. You look stupid, man.
Mark
You don't look stupid. This is us.
Yayo
This is our culture.
Andrew Schultz
This is what we do.
Mark
This our culture. You had a big passport chain on,
Yayo
but I had some little on.
Mark
You had some little on that day.
Yayo
I came out that big. I knew what it was gonna be. It was like that day. Don't knock me.
Mark
Cause I wanted to be like, how about.
Yayo
There you go. Yeah. He wasn't like that that day.
Mark
So he wouldn't tell me to be quiet. No, you left this at home.
Yayo
When I get this, that's around a rapper's division.
Mark
58.
Yayo
That's the rappers section.
Mark
50 had his big on too.
Yayo
Did he pause?
Mark
Yes, he did. You was the only that didn't have it on.
Yayo
He was the only. That must sh my hand a little different though. Definitely ain't shaking your hand. Come on. I done shook hands with Leon. Capio? I rather have 50. I'm drinking Leonardo. Leonardo, come on. You doing the G. You can't bring Shout out Ler Le. Shout out to you.
Mark
Man,
Yayo
it's early in the day.
Mark
They do got us drinking real early. Boy. God damn.
Andrew Schultz
It is. Hey, you know what time it is in Barcelona?
Yayo
What time?
Andrew Schultz
It's late in Barcelona.
Yayo
Yeah, Overseas time. Overseas. We used to. Which a lot of other rappers don't do. Banks is overseas right now. Shout out to Banks. He's in Bulgaria. He got like 20 days.
Andrew Schultz
Hold on. Now that you guys are traveling around the world, Just out of curiosity, because you guys are traveling around the world international.
Yayo
I'm the first rapper in the Swiss Alps too to do a show.
Andrew Schultz
I believe that.
Yayo
Oh, remember that. And I'm just Yayo. I just work for 50. Respect.
Alex
That's mine.
Mark
Shout out to my guy Shout out
Yayo
to my guy Shout out my to.
Andrew Schultz
Now obviously you're just aware of so much more culture, so many more experiences.
Yayo
Of course.
Andrew Schultz
Cuz of the two of you, who would you say is the more culturally refined now because you're international.
Yayo
He already know. He. He could. He know that's me. He knows he know I do. He knows that's me.
Andrew Schultz
God damn.
Yayo
I told him about a salad fork in class. Like he's the. That we going to the restaurant. I'm trying to tell.
Mark
Hour and a half, I bet. Let me tell you something about this guy.
Yayo
I My yo Calm down. You smell like weed and you're saying nothing.
Mark
Listen, let me tell you something about this guy. He talk all this food, right? He's a fast food guy overseas, you hear me? I'm the guy that like five star. I'm the guy that.
Yayo
I don't eat cabbage.
Mark
All this guy be looking for is McDonald's spots, Burger King, like that. I'm a steakhouse guy
Yayo
overseas. McDonald's. Hold on.
Mark
He's not letting me too. The steakhouse. I need a steakhouse.
Yayo
You know, little Duvall guy.
Andrew Schultz
You guys know little Duvall legend, Obviously.
Yayo
Shout to L. Dual.
Andrew Schultz
So we, we were hosting the MTV2 Movie Awards, some music, I forget what it was out in, in Germany one time, right? And he goes, now Dual travels around
Yayo
the world be barefoot.
Andrew Schultz
No, he loves, he loves some sandals.
Yayo
He loves some sandals.
Andrew Schultz
Duo's his own dude. But he, so he. When he's abroad, he eats fast food. He goes, he goes, I don't trust none of this shit. And I'm like, dude, we're in Germany. Let's have some schnitzel or something. Let's have some German food. He goes, no, I'm going to McDonald's. And that's what I'm eating, right?
Yayo
Yep.
Andrew Schultz
Every one of us got sick in Germany except for one person, Lil Duke Ball.
Yayo
But can I break it down to you?
Mark
Look at that.
Yayo
Listen, I eat caviar pancakes and smoked duck. But you gotta understand, look, you gotta understand, look, when you get KFC overseas, that is not artificial. Cuz let's tell the truth.
Mark
No, let me tell. Let me talk. Let me talk.
Yayo
That's all you had to say.
Mark
I'm out of here.
Yayo
Now let me keep going. Now look, haven't bought me a steak yet. I got on my podcast. I get a steak yet. Listen, see, number one overseas, there's no food coloring, right? So anything you get, there's no food coloring. So they don't have no Frosted Flakes, Fruit Loops. You got to go exotic, exotic store to buy that. They don't have that. They don't have it. They don't have none of the candy with all the, with all the sugar to get that black market.
Mark
So now look, when you go to
Yayo
Subway, they have, they have the diet mayo. Mayo, diet mayo. Only when you go to kfc, it's natural chicken. It ain't no artificial shit. It's real chicken.
Alex
I was in Barcelona.
Mark
When you go to McDonald's, the McRoyale,
Yayo
the McRoyal, pulp, fishing McRoyal, all that shit. That shit Hit. It's fresh shit. It's not like it's artificial. That's true. It's a big difference. It's a big hit difference. When I eat fast food over there.
Andrew Schultz
But over here, you're also saying your culture of. Fine. You're saying you were teaching about the salad fork. Like, what?
Yayo
Cause he doesn't.
Mark
He did put me on funny.
Andrew Schultz
I didn't accelerate until the Titan look.
Yayo
I'm like telling like, murder. See, this fork is for the salad fork. Because murder is the type of. We be in the M. Hotel. My yo, my. I hate when people do that around white folks.
Andrew Schultz
Like, this
Alex
is crazy.
Yayo
You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't. If I'm in a restaurant with you, you don't look like the type of. That's going to be saying my exactly. Too much. Like it be to the point where on purpose.
Mark
Now, before you get so nervous, I.
Yayo
I know when I start going, yo, my.
Mark
He be like, I see him in the restaurant.
Yayo
Sit them in the back. Exactly. I feel that hotel. My, my, my bad. You smell like a ounce of bug. My, my, my, my yo. My yo, chill. My yo just chill. White people looking at. They nervous as hell. We the only black people in the hotel. My nigga, my nigga. And this right here, smoke in front of the. The White House. He don't care. My, my. We be having bets who white people gonna get on the elevator with us
Mark
over funniest little time. This little boy, he ridden the elevator with us. His sister was like, no,
Yayo
sis. He was like, sh. Was like, sis, what are you doing? What are you doing? She got elevated. She's like, no, I wouldn't get in the elevator with us.
Mark
Even I probably wouldn't got with us. I'm not gonna lie. I wouldn't have gotten with us either. So I wasn't even mad.
Yayo
They don't know us. They don't know us. You said, I'm not black no more. That was OJ. All they know is 50 out there. You and 50 everything. Oh, you good. They don't care. You can smoke in the elevator.
Andrew Schultz
Is there a time when you're traveling and there was just a custom or something that you just did not understand? You were like, what? Like, you ever go to a sauna and like, everybody's naked? Or like, was there ever a cultural exchange where you're like, what the fuck is this about?
Yayo
No, never. Never. Really. I heard. I heard something about a Turkish bath and an old man washing you, but I ain't with that Somebody said, no
Mark
Diddy like a Turkish bath.
Yayo
I ain't with that.
Andrew Schultz
If they hit you with like the branches.
Yayo
Yeah, I'm not with all that.
Mark
Oh, man, that's what they do.
Yayo
But that's the best thing is traveling. I've been everywhere when you bar.
Mark
I love traveling.
Yayo
Been of couple A, Canary Islands, Black Sand. See, Jay Z don't do shit like that. I'm just saying, his artist never did that. He never. This guy was down with Jay Z nothing.
Alex
Do you want people from Roc Nation on your pod or not? You're not gonna get nobody.
Yayo
Roc Nation ain't fucking with me, man. Just like how you don't fuck with me. I fuck with you. You think I don't fuck with you? You don't fuck with Lloyd Banks. You don't fuck with 50. How you fuck with me? How?
Andrew Schultz
Damn,
Yayo
we have 50 on the pod.
Andrew Schultz
That was my God.
Yayo
I'd rather have Jay z career than 50.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah, come on, man. Nah, that's crazy.
Mark
Yeah, we try to realize this.
Yayo
Look, I rather. I think is better than. Wait, wait.
Mark
They going to call him, right? Andrew, Right? This nigga going to be fired in two weeks. You have to realize. Matter of fact, you heard my man. He said, I love Lloyd.
Yayo
Can I tell you why?
Andrew Schultz
He wrote his own verses. All his verses.
Yayo
Like I said, Fab is featured.
Alex
Respect.
Andrew Schultz
Fab is nice, though.
Yayo
Now that I think about it, 50 is the greatest. All time. At the end of the day, hip hop is you. You see you. You look at us versus the bad guys, right? Hip hop has always been.
Mark
But you just brought up banks tour dates up there.
Yayo
Look, my guy over here, my man is Book Foundation.
Andrew Schultz
He's international brand.
Yayo
Here we go. Give me. You remember back in the days? Give me mods.
Mark
Gail N gave him a gil. Oh, we gonna bring that back.
Yayo
My N gave him a gm. Mods.
Mark
We bringing that guy.
Yayo
He's on to o'. Neill. That is not. That's the point. See, my whole thing is people looking at art. Yo, he got lyrics. Lyrics. You gotta be the best rhyme in your basement. But if you're worldwide like Eminem and sell 16 million, I'm looking up to you. And I'm not even on that level. I'm doing clubs. These guys are doing arenas.
Andrew Schultz
Can we talk about acting, though? Because I think you guys are doing a little acting.
Yayo
Yeah, give me that. What do you mean? Yo?
Andrew Schultz
What?
Yayo
Gave him a deal.
Mark
Say some dumb shit.
Yayo
Give him a deal. I just want to try.
Andrew Schultz
Are there aspirations for acting gigs?
Yayo
Oh, definitely. I got. I Got some acting shit I did, but I don't want to talk about it earlier.
Andrew Schultz
Oh, like, it's not out yet, but you.
Yayo
Nah, not out, but. But it's. It's big.
Andrew Schultz
And are you nice at acting?
Yayo
Yeah, I'm one of the best.
Andrew Schultz
How you not know that?
Yayo
He trash.
Mark
He's trash. He got some work to do. He trash.
Yayo
He trash. I want to know. Bank Teller.
Mark
I was in the movie with Bruce
Yayo
Willis after Bruce Willis. Bruce Willis.
Andrew Schultz
Bruce Willis.
Mark
My S was on Netflix. We was number three on Netflix. And we was in the movie theater for sure.
Yayo
Go.
Mark
This motherfucker did a movie that was on Tombi and YouTube.
Yayo
I did swap, too. I was on tune.
Mark
Swat 2. Have you ever seen Swat 2?
Andrew Schultz
No, I don't know if I saw Swat.
Yayo
No, Swat was good. The first one with LL and them, that was good.
Andrew Schultz
I think I remember the.
Yayo
We did what? Oh, I shouldn't say Benny Boom Fish not friends with Benny Bo.
Mark
Do not say that.
Yayo
He ain't gonna say Benny Boom 50 ain't friends with no more.
Alex
Listen, why does 50 got so many so much?
Yayo
Listen, this what you. You know, I like this. This funny for the peace guy right here. Yeah, I'm black, for real. I'm gonna.
Andrew Schultz
Let me, Let me, let me.
Yayo
Let me. Let me explain something to you. There's something in this business called business, right? So you see how the big boss man is giving you a platform, Right? Right. We're all in this together, but he's still a boss. They're not coming to just see you. They coming to see me. So. So this is what you got to understand. And Arena's packing his 30,000, and I'm like, wow, this shit is crazy. But they. Yeah, they had a C50. So he's putting me on the stage, and I'm getting paid, Right? He did that with all his artists. I don't hate Jay Z. There's no Jay Z hate. But what I'm saying is I seen 50 when Buck up the money 5th helped him with the taxes. So you got to understand, when you're a black man and you're getting half a million dollars and you're buying weed and you're fucking bitches is going to the government, but you're not thinking that until months later. Facts. Months later. When that money. Listen, let me talk.
Alex
I mean, Jay did that, too.
Yayo
Listen, with who? Uzi and them. He wasn't doing it with Bleak and them. Let's go back with Kanye. Come on. Gave Kanye six. Shut the fuck up.
Alex
When he was Broke.
Yayo
Listen, let me talk. We don't know if Kanye, Lil Wayne,
Mark
he lived Wayne, okay?
Yayo
He helped Lil Wayne. But Lil Wayne wasn't in the shit. Now, let me explain. 50 was more a family than business. Jay seemed like, I love Jay. That's a fact. Jay just feel like he was more business at that point than family.
Alex
Got it.
Yayo
So Buck will go on tour. No disrespect to Buck. He'll make a half a million dollars. He's buying three or four cars on the way. On the tour, he's buying Red Monkey jeans. That's when jeans was. You know, at that time, they was 500, a thousand. Now niggas is paying 10,000. We gonna get to that later. Cause you're like, why 50? Why 50? So I'm gonna get to that. So when he fucks up that money. Cause you know you have a grace period when you
Mark
got my man drinking more.
Yayo
50 guy, he's a political everybody, everybody. He said, look. So by the time the tour is done, if your friends don't ride for you, like, yeah, yo, they not cause you a boss. So I'm gonna speak the facts. Listen, right? You always respect the boss. Art Award. Know who the commander is. That's what it tell you. That's one of the rules. Respect, discipline. Know your commander. Motherfuckers need to read books. Now, look, Chucky.
Mark
Y' all motherfuckers need to read books.
Yayo
Man up one line, he said, residual. Yo, look, remember the camera on. You want to put on out of here. Like, get out of here.
Mark
That's why he tried to not give
Yayo
me the address to have me here. I didn't want that like an hour before Joey. Yo, listen. So what I'm saying is, look, so bank. So buckle get off the road. He done made 80,000 check show money. The. You know, the money. The other money.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Yayo
At the party. I don't want to say about that. Sure, sure, he's busting that. That's what's down. You got weed, you got. Take the credit card. I was seeing all that. Take the credit card. You got groupy hoes, baby mothers all over the place. Yep, that 500, by the time you get home, you done spent like 200. Buck 50. Then you coming home, then you splurging more. And now when you down to 250 and you got to pay 250, when
Mark
they realize that's not even yours no
Yayo
more, who you think, the cleanup man 50 when catch them gun cases. Yayo parole, parole lawyer or state lawyer. Fed Lawyer. Who you think is paying all the lawyer fees? 50. When get stabbed at the Vibe Awards, Buck is scared. Oh, Talking about sending me to Pelican Bay. Nigga, who you think pay the lawyer fees? Shout out to Scott Lehman. You know what I'm saying? 50.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Yayo
Know what I mean? 50. Okay.
Mark
Scott Lehman turned a gun charge into Stolen Topics.
Yayo
Now let's keep going.
Mark
Oof.
Yayo
Smoke the Scott. No, no. Now let's keep going. Young Buck helped him with his taxes. Banks. He didn't really help banks. Did his own thing. But he put them on a platform to have records and put money. Cause people just think there's money behind a record. Who you think pays the money? There's money behind every record. You gotta put money to promote a project. He put on fucking Mobb Deep Mop. Know what I'm saying? Prodigy, he had houses back in the days. But when Prodigy came to my house was like, whoa. He was went and bought a new house. Who you think helped him rest in peace? Prodigy. He paid 50 back. Gave him. Go ahead, man. Cause 50 is one of them niggas. Yo, yo, you fucked up. Yeah. If I spent a little more taxes, then in my head I blew.
Andrew Schultz
Like.
Yayo
I mean, I gotta Pay these people 250. Yeah. Hey, get it. Just get back to me when you get it. No problem. We go to Little Meech. They was hanging with Rick Ross and everything. There's no disrespect, but I remember when he was rapping had braids in Detroit and nobody cared. Fifth. Put him on. He make making millions. He's with atl. He's with Gunnar. He's with Thugga. Getting drunk, partying. Chrome hard jeans. $10,000 jeans. You would never buy those. You would never buy $10,000 jeans. And you're super rich. You. And Charlamagne is super rich.
Andrew Schultz
Charlamagne is super rich.
Yayo
No, you're rich, too.
Alex
He's super rich.
Yayo
Charlamagne
Andrew Schultz
don't even put me in that Charlemagne category, man.
Yayo
So. So 50 always instilled in us, like, yo, you don't need to buy certain shit. Buy the house first. You know what I'm saying?
Mark
So.
Yayo
So I seen him help Uncle Murder. No disrespect. Uncle Murder's overseas. He know, yo. He. I'm not saying, oh, this cause Murder put murder. I'm not trying to throw it out there. Like, he helped Murder get his first house. But he's the type, yo, you got a house yet?
Mark
He made me even think about that. Cause I wasn't even thinking about this. He Made me think about that.
Yayo
Like, before he sign you buy a car, he's gonna tell you, yo, like, yo, yo, bro, get that house first. You know what I'm saying?
Andrew Schultz
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Yayo
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Yayo
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Andrew Schultz
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Yayo
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Yayo
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Andrew Schultz
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Yayo
Light up.
Andrew Schultz
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Yayo
Yeah.
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Yayo
Yeah, because he was 12 coming outside when was coming outside, the average 15, 16 to hustle. Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
He was young, hustling with these guys, but, like, he had to get that knowledge from somebody who was aware of these things.
Yayo
Like, oh, geez, the block. The block.
Andrew Schultz
There were dudes on the block that had like, high levels, level, economic.
Yayo
I think every. Every hustler, successful hustler, had some kind of look when you look at El Chapo, right?
Andrew Schultz
So you reach a certain level, you
Yayo
know what I'm saying, of the game,
Andrew Schultz
and then you really know.
Yayo
Yeah, you just learn. It's all marketing.
Andrew Schultz
Right, right, right, right, right. That makes sense.
Yayo
Yeah, just like when we came home and he was like, we had the Jacob watching, he was like, yo, you know, somebody kill you for that. Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
So why you walking around with that?
Yayo
Cause you talking about that went through the realest shit and beef with the realest niggas.
Andrew Schultz
So this is an interesting thing. It's like if. If the loyalty is going to be
Yayo
extended, smoke up here too, right?
Andrew Schultz
Yeah, you guys can smoke if you want.
Yayo
Light up. Oh, man.
Mark
God, man. It's all good, man.
Yayo
It's all.
Mark
This is the best.
Yayo
But I get.
Andrew Schultz
I get the. I get the. The frustration right? If you extend loyalty in one way and then you don't feel it come back at all, that's a huge violation.
Mark
Definitely. Oh, yes, right.
Andrew Schultz
Like if you know that you can take care of somebody when they up their bag, you know, you can take care of somebody if they get locked up. You know, you can take care of somebody if they're going through whatever situation
Mark
and then the they show you that they not loyal to you.
Yayo
Because there's no loyalty in the business. Yeah, because. But I'm one of a kind. There's no loyalty in the business. I'm loyal to the guy that turned the lights on and who I came in to.
Andrew Schultz
Can I tell you something, man? I don't know. I feel like that's not just rap. I feel like that's my business sometimes. I feel like it's a lot of people.
Yayo
It's like being in a gang. It's like it's the same thing if you in the dis. For me, if I was a gang member, if I was Mac Bowler, Jet Crip, whatever, I would never change that game. Like, I would never say I would
Mark
ride it out with this until.
Yayo
With that set, until the wheels fall off. To me, it's common sense. A lot of people, People have it. It's just. It's not displayed in our business. Cuz our businesses, we.
Andrew Schultz
You know how I think sometimes people are so hungry for success, right? Like you were saying, like, they'll sit next to the flame, right? They're sitting next to the fire because there's heat there. And the second, they look like they could. They could jump, but it's like. I don't know.
Yayo
I. I don't.
Andrew Schultz
Maybe it's different. Maybe it's a New York thing.
Yayo
I don't know if it's. You got to understand. A wise man once told me this Shaka Zulu in the 90s, my first time going to ATL command, Ludacris, this one, Ludacris was doing windows on radio.
Mark
Shout out to Shakazuli.
Yayo
Shout some up and all. Don't bring that up. I'm trying to turn to get off of him sometimes. And shock is my man.
Mark
He was there when I got my first deal.
Yayo
Shock is shock. That's my shooter. He said, listen, yo, success doesn't come in the masses, right? Yeah. So there's gonna only be one Andrew Schultz. There's only gonna one. Be one Shane Gillis or kill Tony. Yeah. There's only gonna one. Be 151J, one NAS. You know what I'm Saying it doesn't come in the masses like that. It's far as, like, actors. One Leonardo. Am I saying it right now?
Andrew Schultz
You killed.
Yayo
I actually shook his hand. Not with the glitter, though. Not with the glitter. Shout out to Barry. Can't take no picture. No picture.
Mark
My keep his hat low.
Yayo
He'll chop it up. See for me, like, and he'll know who you are. This is what I'm saying. The rooms that like, J Artis was in and certain. And no disrespect to him, like, that's the rooms Jay and B gonna be in. I'm in the rooms with Tillman. I done Wesley Snipes, the Kardashians. Like, I done met Leonardo. This dude just bought Supreme. Like, I'm in those rooms. Like, there hasn't been any. Like, I was like, we couldn't go to Nelson Mandela crib. Cause we smell like weed. And it was like 100 niggas with fitted but 50 went to Nelson Mandela crib. Like, I done been in Nelson Mandela cell. I done been on Canary Islands black saying, like, went to the. To. To the. To the lube. The. You know, African brothers, they can skip
Mark
in the line and see the Mona Lisa.
Yayo
African brothers. We know. Yo, see this what I'm saying. I'm worldwide. We worldwide.
Alex
I feel you.
Yayo
I feel you. When we're skipping the line, all the white folks looking like, who is these? Who is these? You know, And I'm doing the Mona Lisa. I do elegant accent. And we look nobody else. Me and murder Mona Lisa. See, that's the. I'm talking about. That's experiences. No other artist put it on solid. You know what I'm saying? But this is what I'm trying to say. Jay is not Jay artist. Jay is not even big.
Mark
My man. Why you keep talking about Jay?
Yayo
No, I'm just saying got my man
Mark
hot over here, man.
Yayo
Cuz, I'm trying to tell him, like, but there's.
Alex
There's a.
Yayo
There's a whole.
Andrew Schultz
So my question to you.
Yayo
We did this with hate.
Andrew Schultz
So what do you do?
Yayo
We didn't have. Like I said, when everybody was. When they not hot, what are you going to do? Stand next to fire DJ Khaled? We couldn't do that. So what do you do?
Andrew Schultz
So here's my question.
Yayo
We couldn't do that, brother. What do you do? We had a discipline.
Andrew Schultz
What do you do when you see people that don't have that type of loyalty? What is your energy with them?
Yayo
I just. It's the industry.
Andrew Schultz
You just expect that to be the industry. You have your own code and you're going to live by your code.
Yayo
These guys might not be friends when they leave here. I don't know. Me and him might not be friends. Like you said, me and him might not be friends.
Andrew Schultz
Your own personal constitution is just your own personal. You don't put that on other people.
Yayo
You say, yeah, I don't have expectations because I know it's the industry. It's a cutthroat business.
Andrew Schultz
See, I think there's sometimes where it's like, I assume that there were expectations where you just hold down the people that helped you. You hold down the people that rock with you.
Mark
It supposed to be like that, though.
Yayo
Put it like this.
Mark
It supposed to be like that.
Yayo
Like if I go get a deal or like in a film, I'm always gonna say things. 50 because I know his fame is a part of. We a part of his fame. Yes, we a part of his story. So it's always, always the appreciation there. And we gotta stop the word glazing and dick riding. That's like these guys, if he go get a deal and it's cause of you, you come back, yo, I appreciate you. This is my 50. Yeah.
Mark
I'm holding it down.
Yayo
Nobody could go. No other comedian or any other guy up top could say anything bad about you when I'm in the room. Cause to me, respect is if murder leaves the room. If he's not in the room and you talk bad about about him, I don't want to hear it. If he's in the room, you talk bad about him. I don't want to hear it. That's just how it is. This guy has a wrap up. We got beef with Jermaine Dupree, Reverend Run.
Mark
Yo, man, Shout out to Jermaine Dupri and Reverend Run are my brothers. Those are my guys. He keep talking like, I got beef with. Reverend Run is my guy. Shout out to Diggy Simmons.
Yayo
I used to work with him.
Alex
You can't talk to anybody that 50 got beef with. And 50 got beef with everybody.
Yayo
I don't want to talk to them. You don't talk. I don't want to talk to.
Alex
I'm talking about.
Yayo
But you just said.
Alex
You just said you want guests on your podcast.
Yayo
You got plenty of guests to witness.
Alex
50 beef with every.
Andrew Schultz
But that's how I feel. If you're beefing with my dude, I don't want to with you.
Yayo
Andrew Schultz, he's bigger than all these bum ass rappers. I get Tyson Fury, Jim Carrey, or somebody out your mouth. I was just sticking up, connected with, connecting people. You thinking about dumbass rappers.
Mark
He disrespect niggas all day, all the time.
Andrew Schultz
Everybody but his homie is disrespectful.
Yayo
Who do I disrespect?
Andrew Schultz
But it's disrespecting, disrespectful dudes.
Yayo
I tell the truth if they're disrespectful, no how so Jay ain't do nothing to him. How am I disrespecting Jay?
Andrew Schultz
You don't know.
Yayo
I said he was him at 50 and Diddy was the biggest of all time.
Andrew Schultz
You also don't know the backstory, but
Yayo
you ain't gonna say nothing about Diddy. Cause he's one of the political motherfuckers. See, they the ones.
Alex
I don't fuck with Diddy. I don't fuck with Diddy at all.
Yayo
But listen, before that you was.
Alex
Nah.
Yayo
Even before that.
Mark
Nah, nah.
Alex
Yo, that's crazy.
Yayo
That's crazy.
Alex
That's crazy. That was funny.
Yayo
Then he got a man on him and dancing and all that. And people still want to be. Now, don't tell me you politically.
Mark
All I'm trying to say is you be trying to tell me to stop the wrap up. Your interviews are a wrap up version. You do a rapper version.
Andrew Schultz
You can't stop stop the rapper.
Yayo
When you got little kids saying no Diddy, right?
Mark
You got my guy Andrew saying, I
Alex
can't stop the rapper.
Andrew Schultz
He's got the rapper worldwide.
Yayo
It is. It is. All right, now look, he talked about Jay, right? We ain't going to talk about the me fouls now either, right? That. That you're quiet. No, no. First of all, I'm not. I'm not saying anything. I'm just going up for what I see. First of all, I think, man, no good. Light it up. I looked into it. I'm just going off of what I see and I'm not. And I'm allegedly. Because I don't. I'm not saying nothing unverified, Unverified. Unless I don't know. But what I'm saying is what I'm.
Mark
This is a flagrant motherfucker.
Yayo
We get real about the rapping game. Like him and other people and journalists, they pick and choose. So somebody can be a rat and they'd be like, he's a rat. And then somebody else could be a rat and they'd be like, his music's good, so he gets a pass.
Andrew Schultz
Yep, I think that's true. But I don't think Al is like that. He really loves Jay Z. So he jokes around, he's like, ah, it was bullshit. That's.
Yayo
But if he brung up that funny shit that just came up. Allegedly. Allegedly. He's gonna be quiet.
Andrew Schultz
No, what he says is, he jokingly says like, ah, this is bullshit. But I hope it is.
Yayo
We all hope it is. But what I'm saying is I learned the rap game is selective politicking.
Andrew Schultz
Oh, that's the life game.
Yayo
So if you.
Mark
That's life.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah, that's life.
Yayo
So you know what? So I'm glad. I'd rather have.
Andrew Schultz
But I thought we all had the same rules. Like, I thought if somebody was down for you, rode for you, really helped you out, that you were gonna be loyal them forever. But now I see the people really, their loyalty is just like what gets them to the next level.
Mark
Whatever can help you if this helps you.
Yayo
That's not loyalty. Cool.
Mark
That's not loyalty. Hell no. That's not loyalty.
Yayo
That's true.
Mark
That's not loyalty.
Yayo
There you go. It's all about how I can use you to cause like half of the people I meet. Yo, yo, yo, yo. I love you. But it's really to get to 50. Oh, my God.
Andrew Schultz
And you have to look through that.
Yayo
Look through it. I don't even hang with nobody like that. But 50, 50, 50. It's just like. And you gotta understand, like, I'm slow player too jealous of my career. You gotta remember Marvin Gaye. Look who. Joey's not here. Didn't his father kill him?
Andrew Schultz
I didn't know that.
Yayo
Look it up. Where's Joey at? Joey. Joey. They doing a drug deal. Did Marvin Gaye father kill him?
Andrew Schultz
Answer it.
Yayo
Yes. Can we find it? Marvin Gay fathers killed him. Y' all don't know nothing, man. Look it up, please. Joey. Oh, shit. Look that up. The closest ones to you. Okay.
Andrew Schultz
Killed by his father.
Yayo
Oh, thank you.
Mark
Damn.
Yayo
And what's the other.
Mark
Right back. I'm going to get my weed.
Yayo
And what was. And what was the other singer? Selena Gomez. Oh, wow. She was killed by her best friend, right?
Andrew Schultz
Selena Gomez?
Yayo
No, not Selena Gomez. I'm sorry, Selena, though. Need a joint right now.
Alex
I do this all the time and they get on me.
Yayo
See, he didn't know Marvin Gay. Y' all didn't know Marvin Gay father killed him. No. There you go.
Alex
I know he shot him.
Yayo
Yeah, that was crazy.
Alex
I know he was. I know he was Jack jealous of him, but that's crazy.
Yayo
Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
Selena got killed by his. Her like aunt or her like the. She was like, the head of the fan club.
Alex
Yeah. Head of the fan club.
Andrew Schultz
Manager of her boutiques. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shot the singer back in Corpus Christi.
Yayo
Holy. So see. Yeah.
Alex
But here's one thing, and you're right. I am the peace guy. Like, I do want harmony in hip hop, and I don't like harmony in hip.
Yayo
Did y' all hear that sucker? Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
That could never be harmony in football. It could be. Be safe.
Alex
Yo, if Jay and Jay and went on tour, that would be the biggest tour.
Yayo
But we don't care. We don't want to see that. Yes, we do. We want to see this. Think about this, right? Everybody says, right.
Alex
Who don't want to see.
Yayo
He said. He just said, we want harmony and hip hop. Which sounds crazy to me, right?
Alex
Yeah.
Yayo
What's making Durk and NBA big right now is because of they beef. You see the get killed.
Mark
I smell that.
Yayo
Let's go. Let me finish. Oh, you just. This motherfucker just. This just said harmony and hip hop.
Mark
This is the harmony in hip hop.
Yayo
Sit down. Let me break it down.
Alex
Let me break it down.
Yayo
Joey, come on.
Alex
Hold on.
Yayo
Let me, Let me. Let me finish, though. Let's keep it real. When you think of hip hop, right, we're thinking of gladiator school. We want to see blood on the map. When we see a battle. When you see KRS and MC Shan, KRS disqueens, man. And keep on making it. Brooklyn keep on taking it, and Queens keep on faking it. And we was just like, oh.
Mark
But still respected it.
Yayo
Still respected it. That's the thing, right? So you see battle rap. Battle rap, niggas. Hold on. Let me finish.
Alex
After.
Yayo
Let me finish. Now niggas is saying edify. And now your career is. Hold on, hold on. Let me. Let me finish. Come on, let's finish. Cause you block. Make points. Let's go. Let's get the points out.
Mark
Let's get the points out.
Yayo
Look. When in rest in peace. To Prodigy. When Jay put Prodigy on a summer drink. You was a ballerina. I got the pictures. I seen you, right? That was crazy. But niggas didn't know his grandmother was one of the illest dancing teachers back in the days.
Mark
That did hurt Prodigy. Back in the days.
Yayo
Now, look. It hurt Prodigy. He was. Look, that damn near killed his career. But he was a kid when he probably did one ballet course for his grandma. Recipes to be. But he was a creative guy, right? Boom. They loved it, right? Nikki and Cardi blood, we love it. 50 and ja rule. Yes. Kill him, Wangstuk. Kill him. Ethan J Jay said, I nutted on your baby seat, nigga. I'm not it on. On your girl. Your girl's baby seat, nigga.
Andrew Schultz
Damn.
Yayo
The most violation on your baby seat. Yeah. And then Nas came with Ether Etha was crazy. We want blood. That's how we're hip hop. Harmony and hip hop. This some fake reality. So now can I.
Alex
Can I give my tip and be.
Yayo
Look now, come on. Hold on. Fast forward NBA and Dirk. Dirk is in jail.
Mark
He don't let people talk me.
Alex
He don't.
Yayo
You can respond. Harmony and hip hop. Said harmony. And I want to see harmony and hip hop. I miss that.
Alex
I'll break it down.
Yayo
So look. Yeah, yeah. So now you Got Durk and NBA YoungBoy. It's the biggest NBA can get out of jail. He beat this murder charge. He's good. He good money they're going to. Gonna go buy his. You know what I'm saying? Pooh Shiesty shot a, got out of jail. FDL first day out. Oh yeah. Number one on Billboard. Niggas want blood. That's just hip hop. Damn. So now violence.
Mark
What you about to say, my guy?
Yayo
I'm not saying it's right, but motherfuckers ain't singing self destruction like this is the 80s. Self destruction ain't doing that.
Alex
So now competition has always been a part of hip hop.
Yayo
Yes.
Alex
But do you agree?
Yayo
Do you all agree?
Alex
Yes.
Andrew Schultz
What I would say is that we want.
Alex
Let me just.
Andrew Schultz
Let me just, just. What I would say is that we want blood. And then elegance or opulence, it's like what makes. Can I just get it all out? It's like what makes the Italian mafia so seductive. It's like you see these dudes with the suits and the fucking pinky ring and eating lobster at the nicest restaurants. But you know, on the side there's some guy shooting somebody up and there's warring tribes, et cetera. So it's like you kind of want the best. Best of both. You don't want just some street grimy. That the street grimy gangster shit isn't what crosses over to the whole world, Defin. Like glitz and glamour.
Mark
You gotta appeal in a certain way.
Andrew Schultz
It's like the.
Yayo
Yeah.
Alex
And so in robbers and in hip hop, you have battle rap. Battle rap, they say the most disrespectful. Six inches away from each other's face.
Yayo
Okay.
Alex
Talking about sucking. And then right after. Wait. And then right after the battle, they shake hands in A piece.
Yayo
How many battle raps got shot up and got cut?
Alex
But I'm just behind the scenes but can celebrate the fact that hey, you. There's competing, there's battle rap, there's disrespect. But then you can shake hands and be peaceful.
Andrew Schultz
You want wwe? You want wwe.
Mark
It's not gonna be like that. Certain things is sad.
Alex
But why do you not have to have this in our genre of music?
Yayo
Every other genre music they talking about shooting a and rap about the they shot about. So. So who's worse? You blaming it on G Unit when you need to blame. I'm not blaming it on G Unit. They do songs and say, yo, I just killed this guy up the block.
Alex
You think I'm blaming on G Unit?
Yayo
I'm not blaming. Sound like a G unit blame or some. No, I. I'm not sound like cuz he keeps saying, yo, why can't be like this? Why 50 got beef with everybody and why we need harmony and hip hop. He sound like Ebro or one of them n. So what you got to say? So for me, I'm going to keep it real. Like you got drill music.
Mark
K Flock, bro, we going to need
Yayo
you on that podcast. We got to figure out some. K Flock was one of the biggest drill rappers in New York City. You know what he's known for? Killing motherfucking designer nigga.
Alex
And that's not.
Yayo
You know what that's going to this shit is gonna sell. And that's what these little kids want. And it's sorry to be because the kids in the suburbs that don't live that life wanna see how it is. That life is just like 50 getting shot nine times. Yeah, but oh, shit, he's a bar.
Alex
Is that good for our culture, though?
Yayo
What do you mean is that good for our culture? People are just saying they truth, brother. Kay Flock is from the Bronx. It's kill or be killed, nigga. So there's two different questions.
Mark
Don't you sound like I sound in them restaurants around the white people.
Yayo
I'm not gonna even hold you. You start with sound harmony sounding like
Mark
me in them restaurants for the rest
Yayo
of the hip hop. I like my brother. Hip hop has not been found. It's been found on beef. Did you like Kendrick and Drake?
Andrew Schultz
Yes.
Yayo
You did. Did you love it?
Andrew Schultz
Yes.
Yayo
Before that we was listening to Sexyy Red. Hip hop was boring and right. And right now shout out to Sexy
Alex
Red now calling Drake a pedophile.
Yayo
Oh, now he's on Kendrick side. No, no, I'm just Saying it's about Jay Scott. He just don't like. He say what we don't like. I took media training.
Andrew Schultz
I agree with Yayo.
Yayo
I'm gonna win because I don't care. Everybody cares. See, you know, I like comedians. You know, I like you. Shane Gillis killed Tony because they got canceled before, right? Yeah, but them motherfuckers don't care. And look, they're big as ever. Yeah, because you. If you care. See, he's political. We need hip hop and harmony. He needs to listen to Talib Kweli.
Alex
I want everybody to get money.
Yayo
He needs to listen to him. You don't listen to the Andy up how to Rob. You don't need
Mark
shout out to mop, nigga.
Yayo
He doesn't listen. He don't listen.
Mark
Not even mention of the Flagri show.
Yayo
You know what I'm saying? There's never been. He said harmony and hip hop. Guys are getting shot. And they're buying into the story more. They're buying into the story more. You got the guy.
Mark
This is the greatest, right?
Yayo
Hypothetical. Well, he killed Vaughan, right? The guy that killed King Vaughn. Rest in peace to Vaughn, one of my favorite artists in NBA. And I love Dirk. I love all of them as artists, right?
Andrew Schultz
Vaughn was wild.
Yayo
Yeah, Vaughn got killed. The kid that killed him is on stage. You were an NBA youngboy. They still giving NBA youngboy plaques. And he's still getting loved by the fans. And Atlanta's giving him love and he's dissing. N and N got smoked. And Timmy's up there dancing and shit after he killed the nigga. And N are buying right into it. Even me, I'm watching the concert and
Alex
now, now little kids is looking and it's like, oh, so I could get on. I gotta shoot. I gotta shoot somebody so I can get on.
Yayo
Well, the kids, we can have competition.
Mark
I don't think the kids. I don't think the kids is going, I gotta shoot somebody.
Yayo
Rappers right now. I hate when people blame music.
Mark
Stop saying too. You know how much murders was really taking back in the days when we was coming up?
Yayo
A lot. Yes.
Mark
It's not that many. It happens today, but it's not that much. You just Instagram make it look like there's a lot more going on. But back in the day in the streets, you had thousands of dying a year. A thousand here. 1200, 800, 900. Now. Not saying, like it's nothing, but It'd be about 203. It's not as bad as it was.
Yayo
Crime is going, but it's so much
Mark
social media that it make you look like it's extra crazy.
Yayo
New York is a lot more shit. We got super. But just think about it.
Alex
Just think about it, if you like, and you trying to look for a way out and you see, oh, this shot Von. And now he's on stage next to NBA Young.
Yayo
But he might think we want that. We want to hear that. Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
So there's two things here, right?
Yayo
Just like when you see Scarface in the movie, and he shot everybody and that was the best scene. Just because Scarface shout everybody don't mean I'mma go somewhere that's a movie. Just because I watch a movie and hear music that's a movie.
Mark
It's the same thing with the music, though.
Yayo
They gonna make you do some dumb.
Andrew Schultz
Regardless if it does or it doesn't. I think what. What Al is saying is, like, you're worried about the negative effects on the culture from the music, but that's separate from what is attractive. Naturally, we're gonna watch things that are rebellious. Whether that's like rock music, saying fuck everybody. I'm gonna bite a bat on stage. I'm gonna dress in crazy outfits. We're drawn to people that are going against whatever the system is, whatever the status quo is. So whether that's violence and you see that in hip hop, or you see it in mafia movies.
Mark
Movies.
Yayo
Movies, yeah.
Mark
Why do you think it's love Mafia movies?
Andrew Schultz
Exactly. So we like that. Or the Tony Montana. Like, we like that. Naturally, we're drawn to it. The question is, I guarantee a lot of Italians would be like, well, it's up that everybody thinks that I'm a mafia guy because they watch these mafia movies. So they're upset about that negative stigma that comes with it, of course. But human beings naturally want to see chaos. Like back in the day, the gladiator, sports, you saw a dude get eaten by a lion, lying, because it was, for whatever reason, entertaining.
Alex
Agree on that. I know that that's what people see.
Yayo
You know what it is with me. But I'm gonna keep it real. I'm smart enough to know, like, I believe in God and all that. I don't want to get religious because we don't talk about religious and politics, because people get crazy already. But I know that me, I do like violent movies. I do want to watch Scarface. I do want to watch Training Day. I do want to watch men in society. I'm not. You might want to watch a Tyler Perry movie. Some laid back, some God Christmas specialist. Yo, come on what? You want to watch.
Andrew Schultz
Tyler Perry, he puts on the wig.
Yayo
We all know, everybody knows labels and everybody knows and. And like sex sells. That's why when they do an ad, a liquor ad, they're gonna get a hot chick, right? You see Megan Stallion, she's in shape. We gonna get her for pictures.
Alex
I know the game, I understand the game.
Yayo
So we know sex sells, violence sells in hip hop. We love battles. There's nothing wrong when it goes past that and motherfuckers start getting shot. That's what I'm talking about. Then I understand, but that's what I'm saying.
Mark
You gotta get out the pussy and back in the gym too. He just wanna make this thing. I was just thinking about the gun.
Yayo
Oh, no. Jump shots, right?
Mark
Like he been fell in love ever since he been.
Yayo
Oh yeah, but he got Megan thee Stallion in the hood.
Mark
But he gotta get back in that gym.
Yayo
Come on, bro.
Mark
They left water with it, man.
Yayo
Texas, man.
Mark
What the fuck is going on?
Yayo
He never had no Texas shit like that. But what I'm saying is hip hop has always been blessed for Jay Z and nas. We love 50 and Ja Rule. We loved. What else? Durk and NBA Young Way. We love that. Drake, Drake and Meek Mills.
Mark
We love that Drake and Kendrick. Drake and Kendrick.
Yayo
Drake and Pusha. We love battles because music is boring without is.
Alex
But we can. But we can agree. We can agree.
Andrew Schultz
Can I say one thing? We can have battles to that point.
Alex
Keep it.
Andrew Schultz
Taylor Swift's biggest albums are when she's going at her ops, right? When she's talking about that ex boyfriend that broke her heart and a guy that she was dating that gets the most attention. And maybe girls don't have the blood lust for violence. Violence. But they do want to see that drama, that chaos.
Alex
I agree with that.
Mark
Like, I think I should have dropped the record after the piece of her right.
Yayo
Baby moms. And it was arguing and she was like, the next time you call just
Mark
something like that, save my number under Pizza Hut. So your girl don't know it's me. Yeah, I think she should have dropped the record.
Yayo
Music is every time females love her. Every time she on like one of her baby fathers. Her music is fire.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah, we do want to see.
Yayo
They want real life shit. They want real people.
Andrew Schultz
We do want to see a certain level of drama. Like every one of those housewives shows is pure drama. Every one of these. Yeah, every. Every reality show. There's no reality show where like everybody gets along and everybody's high fiving. It's like they're borderline, almost fighting each other. And that's why we watch this look.
Yayo
Yeah, you say. You might say, yo, baddies is foolish. Cause they fight, right? But I'm checking that shit out when they. When they fight, clips come. I'm watching that.
Mark
You be watching the baddies then.
Yayo
I mean, I'm not saying I watch the show, but if a clip is on, see a girl beat. Oh, yeah, you wanna see a fight video? They get in their back. If that's what they do. They get in the room and they rumble. That's cool. Just like wrestling or anything else you see.
Alex
Yeah, I would just also like to
Yayo
see you want peace and hip hop. That's what happened.
Alex
I would love to see 50 inch hip hop combined tour.
Yayo
Let's never have that shit.
Alex
Would be.
Yayo
That's like Cardi B.
Alex
Tell me how crazy you wanna see
Yayo
Cardi B and Nicki tour too, then that's what you wanna see.
Alex
I would.
Yayo
It'll never happen.
Alex
Like, that's great music. Why wouldn't we wanna see both of them?
Yayo
I mean, it never happened.
Andrew Schultz
Mean, I. I mean, going to like. Going to like, what's the Mets?
Yayo
Citi Field.
Andrew Schultz
Going to Citi Field and watching like, Jay watching 50, watching Nas, like, watching the New York Goats come together and do one concert for the city. You're telling me that wouldn't be a crazy?
Yayo
But you got to understand that would be dope. But listen, this is what y' all not getting though, right? That's like you being a comedian. Shane Gillis kill Tony, right? It's like, listen, we all do do a show, I understand, but with rappers, it's gonna be like, yo, who's gonna be the headliner?
Andrew Schultz
We gotta go through that too.
Yayo
Now, listen, who's gonna be right? Who's gonna be the headliner? Right? That's gonna be the argument. So when 50 wasn't where Jay was at, when 50 didn't sell 11 million records, of course Jay is gonna say, you headline. Yeah. No, you can come on tour with me. Cause Jay stand next to the fire. Like I told you. He's good at that. He's a genius. You're a genius. Jake. Stand next to the fire.
Andrew Schultz
He's a genius.
Alex
He's a genius.
Yayo
Standing next to the fire over here. Got you, Murder.
Alex
He's.
Yayo
Right. So Look. But now 50 is the fire. He sold more records than Jake, so he's on his tour. So if they was going tour. Yeah, who's on it? Who's the headliner? Because once you Get a million dollars a show. It's an argument of who the. Is the headliner because we're all making millions. Flip a coin. You know what I'm saying? But that's business. But once you make Money, J&50 do a tour, nigga, you got to understand business. If. If it was Nicki and Cardi, who's going to be the headliner? It's going to be an argument that Nas and whoever. Who's going to be the headliner? Just flip a coin.
Alex
Yeah, that's it.
Yayo
You can switch. Nah, come on.
Alex
No, no, That's.
Yayo
That's.
Andrew Schultz
That's the ego.
Yayo
Real talk. So you think. So let me ask you. So let me ask you a question.
Alex
You remember when Young Money went on tour?
Yayo
You think Prince and Michael Jackson would do a tour together? Them two egos?
Andrew Schultz
Well, that's.
Yayo
Rest in peace.
Andrew Schultz
That's a good question.
Yayo
That's doing tour together. That's a good one. Come on, man. The rappers got the big ego, but
Alex
it will be fire.
Mark
They think they principally fire, but they. You, as you can see, it didn't have.
Andrew Schultz
But that's past that.
Yayo
Or if you could.
Mark
Didn't you just smoke a whole bun by yourself? Told you. Now he trying to get some queens.
Yayo
I want harmony and hip hop. That's like saying, we want harmony in football. We want to see blood. We want to see get hit.
Alex
Competition is different.
Yayo
We love competition.
Alex
Then you can piece it up.
Andrew Schultz
I don't think people care about competition. And the proof of that is. What are you talking about? There are more people that watch, like, influencer boxing than just some elite boxer that nobody knows about. Because the influencers might have super drama between the both of them. They've been beefing for years and they want to go settle it. And they can't even box that well. But we'll watch it because we want to see these guys fight it out.
Alex
I disagree. I think the influencers are much better at marketing.
Andrew Schultz
But what are they marketing?
Alex
No, but. So they're marketing the drama.
Yayo
Exactly. They're not marketing the skills.
Andrew Schultz
We're not watching them to see the skills.
Alex
Yes, but they're better than boxers at promoting a fight.
Andrew Schultz
Sure, but the point to that is we don't want to just see elite competition. Like, we don't even care about most sports until the Olympics. And the Olympics is literally about. My country is better than your country. Right.
Yayo
It's wars and shit behind it.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah. It's like generations of us going, yeah, we fucked. We saved the French. Fuck you. And then we're just watching so we can save them again or beat them again. So I think it's like, unfortunately, like, you would love to just see the best of the best go at it. And ego does play a big part in it.
Yayo
Ego? Every rapper I met had ego, man.
Mark
That's why it takes ego to its. Nobody cares about the All Stars.
Andrew Schultz
Don't give a. They don't care. We don't care.
Yayo
Back in the days, Jordan was in the slam dunk contest, cuz.
Andrew Schultz
He's like, better than all you.
Yayo
Tom's is different, but you don't want
Andrew Schultz
to see actual violence.
Alex
Wait, but speaking of ego, who don't
Yayo
want to see violence?
Alex
I want both of y' all to rank all G Unit artists from best to worst.
Yayo
Oh, wow, now you're bugging out. Now you type of disrespect. What you want to hear, man, he's on some conspiracy.
Alex
I mean, hip hop.
Yayo
Hip hop is.
Andrew Schultz
Hip hop is competition.
Alex
You being like J. Cole right now.
Mark
That shooting at J. Cole, too. Why you shooting at my J. Cole?
Alex
He's running away from the battle.
Yayo
He's one of them guys in the comments. Bro, you gotta watch.
Alex
Nah, I never cop. I never cop.
Yayo
Fab is better. Y' all trying to. When you're the best, everybody comes for you. When 50 was number one on top, everybody came for him. When drake was number one and helped these niggas see, you know what made 50 smart? He didn't help these stupid.
Andrew Schultz
Oh, wow.
Yayo
You started helping them later on and they still on you. That interesting. Drake helped everybody that he dissed him.
Alex
Yeah, that is foul.
Yayo
It's the game. I wouldn't help none of y'. All. Cause I know this is all fake. And you know why I win? Cuz I'm smart enough to say everybody. The industry. And that's why my podcast, me and murder. I say mine.
Mark
You always saying you.
Yayo
I am the star, Joey.
Mark
That's my blood out of the Joey Google. Google's the fucking star of the real report. I need to see what the fuck that shit say right now. I got it. Don't Google that shit, Joey. Cuz if that's a. I might break that screen.
Yayo
Look, I haven't made no music. Look, I'm hotter than I was 05 when seductive came out. I even think I'm hotter than Fab right now. No disrespect.
Mark
Yo, this guy here. Yo, this guy. Yo, this guy here.
Yayo
Listen, he got my.
Mark
My gown is Brandon bars, though.
Yayo
Cause listen, bars is not going to market you when you think about it, right when I talked about Fab and we talked about Banks, right on what's name, Banks was trending number 23 on Twitter. You hardly see Banks. He was trending 23 on Twitter. And I guarantee that's my nigga. He overseas. That's what I'm saying. No, Banks isn't. Banks is a real rapper. He don't, like. He don't care for all this shit. He's overseas. That's why I say, like, no disrespect to Fab, but who's touring? There's not a lot of rappers that tour from New York overseas. It's not, you know, motherfuckers make it to D.C. to go go. And maybe to Atlanta, but maybe not even far as Atlanta. Cause the south got their own market.
Andrew Schultz
That's true.
Yayo
We was there for the transition when they was like, fuck New York. And it was all about the South.
Alex
Yeah.
Yayo
I went through that period of hip hop niggas. He don't know nothing about that.
Andrew Schultz
Was it harder to tour?
Yayo
Yeah.
Alex
Yo, I fuck with you, bro.
Yayo
I remember one time, me and Banks went to some promo in Texas. And it was a meeting, it was all the DJs, and they was like, we gotta stop playing these New York niggas.
Mark
And you sitting there like, wow.
Yayo
It's about the South. So think about it. The South, Boosie and them, they don't have overseas. But Boosie could make millions of dollars. Cause he got Savannah right there in Louisiana. He got Texas. They got more markets. Think about the average artist from New York. Right? They don't have. We don't have a big market.
Andrew Schultz
You got the Northeast, we got New
Yayo
York, we got Connecticut. We might go up upstate towards Buffalo, but when we start in Connecticut. But as far as going towards, like DC and va, it's a rep. From there, they playing Go Go and South music, too.
Andrew Schultz
That's interesting.
Yayo
So artists from the south have more of an advantage. Why? Because the New York artist has upstate. You have Connecticut, Boston, you could probably Boston. And then you got overseas and that's it.
Andrew Schultz
So the New York artist has more attachments.
Yayo
We only got like three or four real markets, Bo. Boston, Connecticut, New York and upstate and all that. Like, well, that's New York, too. What I mean, like, you know, Buffalo. You know what I'm saying? The down south artists, they got Atlanta, they got Georgia, they got fucking. They got motherfucking Savannah, they got motherfucking Mississippi.
Mark
Come on, bro.
Yayo
They could get rich just staying in the South. That's why a Lot of the down south artists don't care about coming overseas.
Alex
Yo, I'm curious. I see 50 and Cam. They seem to be like, really cool right now. Can we possibly shout out to my
Mark
nigga Killa Cam, can we.
Alex
We possibly get a G Unit Dipset tour this.
Mark
Asking all the questions is making movies, bro.
Yayo
This why is that a dumb question?
Alex
You. You wouldn't tour. Wait, Dipset or not.
Yayo
Listen, shut the up with this. Is that a neck?
Andrew Schultz
Can I give him a neck for that?
Alex
That's a get.
Andrew Schultz
Why
Mark
I don't think they in the music.
Yayo
Like, yeah, he's one of them controversial.
Mark
I like the music.
Yayo
I grew up on you. You got this. What people, this what he doesn't understand about music. 50 is a million dollar show.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah. So if there's nobody.
Yayo
There's nobody in Dipset or in G unit besides 50 that get a million dollars dollars and better a show. I don't get a million. Banks ain't get a million. But nobody in G. But murder never got a million in the show. There's certain artists that's in. So how do you. When you tell 50 to do something, he's gonna say, why? When people's merch sell like a 50 cent, like his merch can do 10 million without live Nation touching it on its own. Like, I'll do 10 million, yo. Oh, shit. We. How many shows we did? We did like 30 shows. It was to count 7, 8 million. I'm like, I see why 50 wanted to keep his merch sales on that one. It's so the you talking about N. But stupid about money.
Alex
Yeah, but you was just in 11. How much 50 is getting for?
Yayo
I'm not asking 50 what he's getting 50 do plenty of private events.
Alex
11 is not giving him a million dollars to perform at a nightclub.
Andrew Schultz
It's different.
Yayo
You don't know what they giving them, bro. That's not me. It's also business.
Andrew Schultz
It's also different than a full show. Like, if you're going there, you do a couple shows.
Yayo
I done seen that going rooms and a touching.
Mark
Me see a whole bunch of Branson and LA. That's why we in Club 11 to promote Branson and what you think Nikki and them get?
Yayo
You think, what you think, what you think, Kendrick. Thank you.
Alex
I appreciate it.
Yayo
No disrespect to Cam', Ron, Jim Jones and Jewels and nobody. They. They made history. It's no, I love Dipset. I love D Block. We made history. It's no just back and forth. It's Internet Shit. Until it get real. If it get real, you know. But we just shot nine, seven, so I hope they don't want it to get real. You know what I'm saying? So
Alex
that really happened to him.
Yayo
So what I'm saying to him is the shooter. Nobody. But he's saying have a concert with Dipset and G Unit, right?
Andrew Schultz
Correct. Yeah.
Yayo
None of us or them make a million dollars a show.
Andrew Schultz
So. So there's a certain amount of money that a concert can create.
Mark
Yeah.
Andrew Schultz
And there's a certain amount of money that it's going to take for 50 to a concert. So you just got to run the numbers. So he's not going to cut his check.
Yayo
He don't, he don't understand. He don't. He just don't get it.
Alex
I'm asking that if I, like, if
Yayo
I say, like if I say to
Alex
him I was a fan of me.
Yayo
If I say to him, look, yo, I don't know if Jay z could do 103 dates by himself without Beyonce. Dante for Live Nation. Even though he's a part of Live, he don't understand business. But I say yo. Oh, Rick Ross. Yeah. Rick Ross definitely can't do 103 dates on live Nation, Yayo. Definitely. I can't do it either. Murder us. Yeah. Cause it's reality, right?
Andrew Schultz
I mean, you are talking, you are talking about like a handful.
Yayo
It's a handful of people.
Andrew Schultz
Not just rappers, just musicians on the planet that could do it. It's like first one, right?
Yayo
With Live Nation. What they giving 50 mil? Something, maybe, Something like that? Come on, bro. It's not. It's a handful of people that's doing Live Nation tours. Like Travis. Sorry.
Alex
I'm a fan of music and I would love to see.
Yayo
But you don't understand the music. You like Yo, K Canard, do you like telling yo. Michael Jackson to do a tour with Jim Jones or somebody? No, that's no disrespect. That's crazy. That's crazy. My getting a million a show. One getting on me like you getting 10th. 10,000 a show. Right, Right. You know what I'm saying? Like it's, it's a big difference.
Andrew Schultz
Right, right, right. There's only a certain amount of money.
Yayo
That's why I'm talking about the nails and everything. I wouldn't go on a business and start talking about hip hop, cuz some people's gonna be biased. Like he know about music and all, right.
Alex
I can't ask nothing.
Andrew Schultz
This is perfect. Seeing your friend get roasted.
Yayo
It's not even a roast. You fell with Peter and Tia. Shout out to Epstein live. See what I'm saying? No. Motherfuckers ain't gonna talk about that Epstein shit. That's why I'm glad I kept it street. I never went to a P. Diddy party. Nothing weird. I just kept it street. Cause I would hate to be in one of them pictures. Even in a picture like, yo, yo. Know what I'm saying? N had the man pictures. That shit is crazy.
Andrew Schultz
Isn't that crazy?
Yayo
But it's Internet. He's scared to talk about shit like that there. Cuz I'm for harmony. We the real report. We don't give a about. We hire security and bulletproof trucks.
Alex
I'm going to be the first person
Yayo
to subscribe to your podcast. I'm not political. I don't care.
Alex
Yes, I want to hear that. Can't wait for y.
Andrew Schultz
Is there a time in your life where you guys are going to be like, all right, I don't want to deal with the stress of beef anymore. I just want to enjoy my life.
Yayo
You know why it's no stress? Because I'm not where rappers are. Ah, so see 50s. On another level, we're. I say 50. So when we do shows with him. We're in Morocco. You ain't gonna. It's like we like the first. Where we was the first rapper's department.
Mark
Damn. With Kim Kardashian. Armenia, you can look it up. We was the first actually rappers to perform in Armenia.
Yayo
Like, performance. Kanye rapped by the pond or the lake or something like that.
Mark
No, he didn't even rap. He didn't even rap. He was just there. He was actually the first rapper.
Yayo
He don't understand. Like, we was like. I remember being in the studio with Kanye and he's in 50 ear. And we like, yo, I'm like, who's this nigga fifth? I don't know. And it was Kanye West. We was going to radio and Ludacris before. Oh, I remember him doing radio. I seen a lot of blow. Like out of here.
Mark
Pause.
Yayo
Like Rihanna. We gotta pause everything.
Mark
What's my man name again?
Yayo
Joey.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah.
Mark
See how he pull up the facts?
Yayo
You know what I'm saying? The first facts. You gotta have your facts. Worldwide tour, green light game. A lot of your favorite rappers can't do what 50 did. So when you say, I'd rather have Jay Z career, Jay Z can't do that. Maybe with Beyonce, no disrespect, he's big.
Alex
But 50, you can't disrespect a and then just add, no.
Yayo
You want me to be a dick, Rod. You just want me to do what everybody in the industry do. I'm not here for it. You know. You know what? We win. It's not me. I don't want to hang around rappers. I don't want to be around them. I don't care because I know it's all fake business. Most rappers get stabbed in the back, most people in positions. That's why 50. And everybody's so guarded because you help everybody. You help the actors, you help Meech turn into an actor. You help Yale, you help. You help Buck, you help you bail money people turn it back on. You bought niggas cars. They crash your cars now talking shit about you and they crashed your car. Motherfuckers steal money. Shit. Watches is missing anything. This is how it is being an artist. That's why artists are guarded. Cause somebody's always. Then you got lawsuits. Motherfucker was your friend. Now he want to talk about you. Your assistant. No, man, I had an assistant calling all my friends. I don't work for him no more, like. And I don't even have half the money y' all got, so imagine the snake shit you gotta do. Charlamagne made 200. Now you gotta watch your back. Get some more. Come on, bro. Let's not act like it's just not a shark business.
Alex
What a y' all going to talk
Yayo
about on the part? I'm curious what the he talking about right now. Like, you with painted nails and opinions. Painted nails and opinions. Painted nails and opinions. Oh, I The real rapport.
Mark
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Yayo
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Andrew Schultz
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Yayo
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Andrew Schultz
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Mark
Thank you for having us, my brother. Thank you, thank you.
Yayo
I don't have nothing to joke on, bro. Legends.
Mark
Hilarious.
Andrew Schultz
What day of the week does the pod come out?
Mark
What does.
Yayo
We supposed to be shooting an episode.
Mark
We actually got to go shoot today.
Yayo
We supposed to be doing a baby.
Mark
We got to go shoot today. We supposed to do.
Yayo
They want to keep us urban like all the other part.
Mark
Like, we do need you on there.
Andrew Schultz
Yeah, I'll come.
Mark
The whole crew of that motherfucker.
Yayo
The whole crew Nails. I don't know.
Mark
We might.
Andrew Schultz
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Andrew Schultz
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Episode: 50 Cent Bigger than Jay Z, Hip Hop Needs Beefs, & Eminem is White???
Guests: Tony Yayo (with Uncle Murda joining later), AlexxMedia, Mark Gagnon
Date: February 4, 2026
This episode of Flagrant dives deep into the worlds of hip hop, loyalty, fame, beef, and changing culture through the perspectives of Tony Yayo and the Flagrant crew. It’s explicit, irreverent, and filled with unfiltered takes on icons like 50 Cent, Jay Z, Eminem, and Lloyd Banks. The hosts and guests spar over who’s hip hop’s biggest titan, the role of competition (and violence) in rap, and how authenticity, street cred, and even painted nails signal shifting definitions of “realness” in the genre. The conversation is raw, funny, and at times combative—exactly as promised by the Flagrant ethos.
"My get back is my success now because I haven't dropped music in 20 years."
"I appreciate everything...we living the best life that you could ever live...I'm grateful no matter what."
"What I always learned from 50 is like, you show your friends, you show your future...I'd rather hang with guys like you...I could learn something about this podcast thing that we're about to do."
“Going to Rikers Island has to be. It's like they call it Torture Island, the Bridge of pain.” ([09:36])
“People didn’t know what Yayo looked like...I’d be on the bus and they’d be talking about me right behind me.”
—On anonymity despite notoriety ([12:52])
"I’m loyal to the guy that turned the lights on and who I came in to."
“50 is more family than business...Jay just feel like he was more business at that point than family.” —Yayo ([98:51])
50's relentless support for his team is contrasted with Jay's business acumen and strategic alliances.
“Let’s keep it real. When you think of hip hop, right, we're thinking of gladiator school. We want to see blood on the map. When we see a battle…”
“I do like violent movies...Sex sells, violence sells in hip hop. We love battles. There's nothing wrong—when it goes past that and motherfuckers start getting shot—that's what I'm talking about...” —Yayo ([129:06])
“...he just don't want to give it up because they don't want to give it to the white boy.” —Yayo ([27:01])
“It’s like a black hockey player. Everybody hated us when we signed with Em. But Em did the most for us.” ([27:04])
The group ultimately settles on Eminem’s skills and Dre’s production making him irrefutable—but race helped the rocketship.
“I didn’t even know Eminem was white until TRL.” —Andrew Schultz ([13:55])
“Black people can be racist too.” —Yayo ([37:46])
“How can a person with their nails painted judge hip hop? Hip hop is an aggressive sport.” —Yayo ([24:09])
“Young Thug wore the dress...he still be Young Thug. People still get shot, though, so it’s all good.” —Yayo ([44:04])
“Social media make it look like extra crazy… but back in the day in the streets, you had thousands of dying a year.” —Mark ([126:16])
“We could still go overseas. Like, I went on my own tour. Swiss Alps, Germany, Luxembourg, myself. Cause of Eminem.” —Yayo ([27:50])
“Imagine being on Rikers Island. It was fucking Eminem at the Grammys with a Free Yayo shirt.” —Yayo ([14:32])
“How can a person with their nails painted judge hip hop?... It's art.” —Yayo ([24:09])
“Nah, you got glitter, you got studs. Come on, you from Far Rockaway. You making Queens look bad here.” —Yayo ([44:42])
“Queens and Harlem are similar. Get money, get fresh. The Bronx and Brooklyn to me was always ‘shoot you up’.” —Yayo ([76:13])
"I'm always gonna say thanks 50 because I know his fame is a part of… we a part of his fame. So it's always the appreciation there.” —Yayo ([112:31])
“Y’all hear that sucker?... Hip hop has not been found… Hip hop has always been found on beef. Did you like Kendrick and Drake?... Before that we was listening to Sexyy Red. Hip hop was boring and right.” —Yayo ([124:04])
“50 is a million dollar show. There’s nobody in Dipset or in G Unit besides 50 that get a million dollars a show.” —Yayo ([140:52])
“It’s like a black hockey player... It gave him the hood recognition... They don’t want to give it to the white boy.” —Yayo ([27:01])
“You know, I like comedians...because they got canceled before... but those motherfuckers don't care… if you care... you’re political. We need hip hop and harmony.” —Yayo ([124:56])
"That’s why I’m glad I kept it street. I never went to a P. Diddy party. Nothing weird. I just kept it street. Cause I would hate to be in one of them pictures.” —Yayo ([144:36])
This episode is pure Flagrant: comedic, confrontational, and unafraid to air out hip hop’s dirty (and hilarious) laundry. The guests and hosts chop up what it means to be “real,” why hip hop will always be competitive at its core, and how money, race, and culture intertwine at the genre’s highest levels. From jail stories to epic sales debates to generational jokes about painted nails, this episode is a must-listen for any hip hop head—or anyone fascinated by the friction between old school and new.