Charlamagne tha God on Taylor Swift Engagement, Lil Nas X Arrested, & If Trump is Dying

Summary

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Flagrant w/ Akaash Singh – Summary: "Charlamagne tha God on Taylor Swift Engagement, Lil Nas X Arrested, & If Trump is Dying"

Date: August 28, 2025
Guest: Charlamagne tha God
Hosts and Cast: Andrew Schulz, Akaash Singh, Mark Gagnon, AlexxMedia, various recurring contributors

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Overview

This jam-packed episode of Flagrant features a freewheeling hang with Charlamagne tha God, covering the wildest trending headlines and plenty of raunchy banter. The hosts roast everything from Lil Nas X’s supposed arrest to the Taylor Swift–Travis Kelce engagement, speculate on Trump’s health and political chaos, and dip into New York/US local politics and Will Smith’s viral AI concert mishap. As always, irreverence reigns, with detours into self-deprecating jokes, personal stories, sports takes, and socio-political hot takes—all with a playful, unapologetic edge.

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Major Discussion Points & Key Insights

1. Lil Nas X’s “Arrest” – Publicity Stunt or Crisis?

• The episode kicks off with ribbing about Lil Nas X’s supposed arrest.
• Charlamagne’s take: He suspects it’s a publicity stunt, tied to an album rollout, but leaves room for the possibility of a mental health crisis ([01:03], [05:53]).
  • Charlamagne: “I think he was doing a stunt and it turned into… Everything has turned into—” ([01:07])
  • “But anybody can have a breakdown. I get it, man. But it’s just because of his history it’s screaming stunt.” ([05:53])
• The crew jokes about attention-seeking culture and compares viral stunts to past antics in the music industry.

2. Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce Engagement—Why Does It Matter?

• The group pivots to the massive Taylor Swift–Travis Kelce engagement news ([08:01] onwards).
• Charlamagne’s take: He’s only impressed if the marriage happens. He’s skeptical of drawn-out engagements, especially for celebs ([08:15]).
  • “If you get engaged, you gotta be married within the year. Especially them, because they got money.” ([08:27])
• The team discusses interracial dating, public reactions, and the scrutiny celebrities face for their choices ([08:54]).
• Swift’s headline-making effect on Kelce’s podcast business and their public “white-on-white” romance is both roasted and appreciated.
• Social Commentary: The absurdity of how obsessed the public is with certain celebrities, especially compared to icons from other communities ([12:12]).

3. Conor McGregor, Dick “Bench Pressing,” & Recurring Gags

• Recurrent joke about Conor McGregor allegedly bench-pressing with his genitals ([06:23] onwards).
• The group riffs on masculinity, waxing, sexuality, and taboos, all while teasing each other—classic Flagrant raunch ([03:31] – [06:47]).
• Charlamagne: “A man dick tac and bench press 135? That’s impressive… you want to see that, like—you like fitness, right? I like fitness. Fitness… [pauses as Mark sets up a joke]… fitness dick in your mouth!” ([04:36])
• The conversation segues seamlessly from celebrity headlines to wild, juvenile banter.

4. Sports Hot Takes: Ranking NFL Tight Ends

• Sports banter heats up over Kelce’s NFL standing ([14:39]–[16:02]):
  • Akash ranks Kelce #2 behind Gronk; Charlamagne puts him only at #4 or #5, behind Antonio Gates and others.
  • Discussion includes the evolving role of tight ends and why older eras are underrated.

5. Trump’s Health & If He's Dying (Physical & Political)

• Charlamagne brings up rumors about Trump’s alleged health decline, especially in light of visible physical changes and rumors of congestive heart failure ([36:43]–[48:45]).
  • [38:05] Doctor on TikTok speculates about Trump’s heart and kidneys: “The president is definitely getting sicker... six to eight months tops.”
• The group debates the validity of these claims, noting that media focus on Biden’s decline contrasts with their coverage of Trump.
  • Charlamagne: “If Biden’s every slip-up is magnified, why not Trump’s?” ([40:33])
  • Andrew: “Cognitively, he doesn’t look like he’s on a decline as much as Biden…but he keeps everybody confused.” ([41:10])
• They discuss political implications, the normalization of Trump by media (including Flagrant), and accountability failures among Democrats/DOJ.
  • Charlamagne: “Why do celebrities get more smoke for sitting down with Trump than Merrick Garland does for not prosecuting him?” ([42:42])

6. Cracker Barrel Logo Controversy – “Woke” or Just PR?

• The recent Cracker Barrel logo change triggers a satirical debate: is this “wokeness,” DEI, or a marketing stunt? ([24:43]–[31:04])
  • Charlamagne: “If you really want to be woke, just call it ‘The Barrel.’” ([27:34])
• Both sides of America’s “culture war” are lampooned for their hyper-sensitivity.
• The group riffs on nostalgia, brand identity, and the performative aspect of outrage.

7. Will Smith’s AI Concert Mishap: Relevance vs. Legend Status

• Will Smith’s attempt to generate viral concert hype with an obviously AI-faked crowd video is dissected ([93:01] onwards).
  • Akash: “This is the saddest fall-off in the history of—” ([93:21])
  • Charlamagne defends Will’s icon status, arguing legends never truly “fall off.”
    • “Will Smith, in order to be Will in all of those other moments, you gotta to be him now…” ([102:20])
• The group debates the fine line between maintaining relevance and looking desperate or embarrassing as a legend ([99:03]).

8. NYC Politics and the Rise of Zoran Mamdani

• Shifting to local political races, the team analyzes the prospects of progressive Zoran Mamdani and the state of New York City’s “identity crisis” ([74:43]–[92:57]):
  • Discussion about the effect of party infighting, Trump’s possible repercussions for NYC, and why messaging is key.
  • “Democrats still don’t have identity. Still just Trump Bad, Trump Bad, Trump Bad. We know that already—but what are you gonna do to make my life better?” —Charlamagne ([76:14])
• They joke about campaign trail shenanigans (e.g., politicians being forced to bench press weights for street credibility).

9. Social Issues, Masculinity, Racial Identity

• Recurring bits about masculinity, sexuality, and race punctuate the whole episode: e.g., the “difference” between being gay and homosexual ([02:12]), the objectification of women, and mock debates about interracial and “same-race” couples ([09:02], [11:42]).
• “I want you to love whoever it is that you love. But I like seeing white people with white people… That’s not racism. It’s just, why wouldn’t you want that, especially coming from a minority community?” —Charlamagne ([09:02])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Lil Nas X:
  • “I think he was doing a stunt and it turned into… Everything has turned into—” (Charlamagne, [01:07]).
• On Taylor Swift & Kelce:
  • “If you get engaged, you gotta be married within the year. Especially them, because they got money.” (Charlamagne, [08:27])
  • “All these black women y’all tell me Travis Kelce has been with—I’ve never seen him with them.” (Charlamagne, [09:50])
• On Trump/Biden Coverage:
  • “When you listen to how liberals used to cover for Trump, just go listen to how conservative media, Fox… It’s the same language.” (Charlamagne, [40:59])
  • “Why do comedians get more shit for interviewing Trump than the DOJ does for not prosecuting him?” (Charlamagne, [42:42])
• On Legends & Relevance:
  • “Will Smith, in order to be Will in all of those other moments, you gotta to be him now.” (Charlamagne, [102:20])
• NYC Politics:
  • “Democrats still don’t have identity. Still just Trump bad, Trump bad, Trump bad. We know that already, but what are you going to do to make my life better though?” (Charlamagne, [76:14])
• Satirical Social Commentary:
  • “If you really want to be woke, just call it ‘The Barrel.’” (Charlamagne on Cracker Barrel, [27:34])
  • “Put Lil Nas X in his underwear but make it look like the Cracker Barrel logo. Now you got merch!” ([29:14])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Lil Nas X / Publicity Stunt?: [00:45] – [05:53]
• Taylor Swift & Kelce Engagement: [08:01] – [13:48]
• Sports / Tight End Rankings: [14:39] – [16:19]
• Cracker Barrel Logo Controversy: [24:49] – [31:04]
• Trump Health Speculation: [36:43] – [48:45]
• Will Smith AI Concert Video: [93:01] – [103:12]
• NYC Politics & Mamdani: [74:43] – [92:57]
• General Social Satire & Banter: Ongoing throughout

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Tone & Style

As always, the Flagrant crew keeps things outrageous, unapologetic, and quick-witted. They toggle between locker-room humor, pointed political/social commentary, and rowdy riffing on current events and public figures. Charlamagne matches their irreverence while grounding some of the bigger talk in insightful critique.

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Final Takeaway

This episode encapsulates everything Flagrant fans expect: hilariously unfiltered riffs, “problematic” takes, and bold topical analysis, all while pulling back the curtain on the absurdity of American media, culture wars, and the fleeting nature of celebrity and politics.

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Transcript

[Akash]

What's up, guys? Welcome to Flagrant. Today we have the God Charlamagne in studio to talk about all the pressing issues like Lil Nas X's gay ass getting arrested, Taylor Swift is straight ass is getting engaged, and Donald Trump, who cares about his sexuality. Is he dying? Let's get into it.

[Mark]

Charlotte, man, how are you?

[Charlamagne]

I'm good, Mark, what's happening? Not much, man. I don't like looking in your eyes.

[Akash]

They're pretty, right?

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, man. Get British.

[Akash]

Let us not forget.

[Andrew]

I'm giving you guys, you know.

[Mark]

Let us not forget. Maybe the greatest moment that Charlamagne and I ever shared.

[Charlamagne]

Ever.

[Mark]

And this is in Miami on the pod.

[Charlamagne]

This is in Miami. What happened?

[Mark]

I even remember this.

[Akash]

You were on Zoom.

[Charlamagne]

You touched it in Miami.

[Akash]

Zoom podcast.

[Charlamagne]

You and Shelts. Okay.

[Akash]

And Mark happened to walk by.

[Charlamagne]

Oh, yeah, Yeah. I was like, who that? Who that with all that ass? It's cuz you had your head down. I didn't know how the you up.

[Mark]

You thought it was Lil Nas X. I was just.

[Charlamagne]

Damn.

[Mark]

I was.

[Charlamagne]

Salute to Lil Nas X. I think that's a publicity stunt.

[Akash]

You think so?

[Charlamagne]

Still right now, even I think it was a publicity stunt that went too far. That's what I think. I think he was doing a stunt and it turned into. Everything has turned into.

[Mark]

Well, he does have a project dropping soon, right?

[Charlamagne]

Yes, he cleared out his whole Instagram and then he started posting videos with the song that he's got, I guess coming out. And then, you know, this situation happened, right? His dad was like, he wasn't. Or they ruled out drugs. They said. Well, his. His lawyer and his dad, I think, said he wasn't high or some shit like that. So maybe it was a mental breakdown. I'm. I'm leaning towards publicity stunt man.

[Akash]

Yeah. You know what I was thinking? It wasn't. But now that you're saying it, yeah, I see it. I see it. I'm convinced.

[Andrew]

I thought he was just late to the pride period.

[Charlamagne]

I didn't know Mark got add more ass than Lord Nas X too.

[Andrew]

He kind of lost his ass.

[Charlamagne]

That's why you drinking the. I'm not looking. That's gay.

[Akash]

It's. Why is it I should drink the.

[Charlamagne]

Look on purpose is gay now, you know, if you notice it, you know what I'm saying? If you just walking by, if you on the Zoom and you be like, yo, whatever, all that is different. But if you.

[Akash]

I would argue that's much gayer.

[Charlamagne]

You think so?

[Akash]

I would argue that's actually homosexual. And what I'm doing is evaluating the mass subjection.

[Charlamagne]

But there's a difference between homosexuality and gay, though.

[Mark]

Oh, I'm listening.

[Akash]

Whatever.

[Charlamagne]

You throw stuff out and hope somebody catch it. You know what I'm saying?

[Akash]

That was gay. Whatever you're doing is gay. Whatever I'm doing is heterosexual. Objective.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah. Cuz you can look at it without feeling anything. You can't.

[Akash]

That's why I can't.

[Charlamagne]

I just don't want to look at it.

[Andrew]

You would get caught by a tranny.

[Charlamagne]

Huh?

[Andrew]

You would get caught by a tranny?

[Charlamagne]

No. Hell no.

[Andrew]

You got caught by Mark's ass. You ain't realized that was a man.

[Mark]

I'm not trans.

[Akash]

We can all get caught by a trans. Like I said, you can't get caught. But there's no attractive, transgender people. That's crazy.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, but you check for the Adam.

[Akash]

Zap, yo.

[Mark]

I mean, if they're wearing a choker, though, then it's.

[Akash]

I refuse to believe that with all the technology we got, they can't just fix that.

[Charlamagne]

Oh, I just found out about gum reduction, so I'm sure they have the thing to say. The Adam. Wait.

[Andrew]

Gum reduction?

[Charlamagne]

Yes. You got people that get their gums reduced.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne]

We had a woman on the show this week. Her name was. I'm gonna tell you her name right now.

[Akash]

People need that. You ever seen someone with a gummy smile? I got the opposite issue.

[Charlamagne]

But what do they do? Erica Cobb.

[Andrew]

They give you more teeth. Like, how do you.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah.

[Guest 1]

You got more teeth up here.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah.

[Guest 1]

That you don't know.

[Mark]

That's what's under. The gum is secret.

[Akash]

He's got the tooth started right here.

[Charlamagne]

It's the same with dick, too. Like, when your dick gets hard, like, you ever, like. Like, put your hand, like, at the base of your dick and you can feel that there's more dick in there. And you're like, yo, why? Why can't I get that out? And I always be thinking, if I was a kid, right? Like back in the day, if I could go back in time, I would have did the tugging exercises then, because I feel that's when your ligaments was a little bit softer. And at some point, you would have just heard the pop, and then that shit would have been hanging. No, that's the thing.

[Mark]

Guys do that.

[Charlamagne]

They do.

[Mark]

They do stretching for it.

[Charlamagne]

Oh, I do it now every day.

[Mark]

And that's jerking off.

[Akash]

I just don't have that kind of dedication if my dick ain't. And it is what it is.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, but it's because Nobody taught us. Nobody gave us the tools when we was young. If we had that exercise.

[Andrew]

When we see McGregor's still working on his shit, adding weights to the end of his dick, like, it's still.

[Charlamagne]

Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Akash]

He sent that to Azalea Banks. His dick could bench press, like, 135 is crazy.

[Charlamagne]

I mean, I'd like to see that.

[Mark]

His dick stronger than Zoron.

[Charlamagne]

I'd love to see that. I wouldn't mind seeing that. That's like, yeah, you.

[Akash]

We can pull that up. It's an image that's out there. We can find.

[Charlamagne]

Let me see it.

[Akash]

Yeah, let him see it on purpose.

[Charlamagne]

It's just fitness, but that's different. This is for cultural purposes. Cause we watching the podcast.

[Andrew]

You asked him to pull up, dude, that's even crazy.

[Charlamagne]

A man dick tac and bench press 135. That's impressive. You want to see that? Like, you like fitness, right? I like fitness. Fitness. Jigging your mouth. I'm sorry, bro. I'm sorry. Out of all due respect, like, I really. I respect you as a. I respect.

[Mark]

You as, like, a broadcaster.

[Charlamagne]

That's just like a mentor. That was a good look, but he got me because, see, if Schultz would have did that, he wouldn't have got me. I'd be like, okay, whatever. See, I wasn't expecting Mark to hit me with that one. That was crazy. Now I'm on point. Okay, now I'm on point. No, it was not. It was hilarious. Okay.

[Akash]

He doesn't actually feel bad.

[Charlamagne]

Where's the dick, though?

[Akash]

Yeah, why?

[Charlamagne]

Look how he's hunched over the dick.

[Akash]

The Internet has scrubbed it. I'm fine.

[Charlamagne]

I'm finding it. Really?

[Mark]

No way.

[Andrew]

Wow. McGregor got power like that.

[Charlamagne]

I'm saying. Was it big, though?

[Akash]

Solid for a white. I'd take it.

[Charlamagne]

Damn.

[Akash]

No, I mean, I would take it.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, if it was yours, you mean?

[Akash]

No, hold on.

[Charlamagne]

Both ways. By the way, this was a perfect segue out of the little nas X. Whether we realized that or not, this is a great show. Yep. All right.

[Mark]

We also didn't give him too much air time, which is exactly what he wanted. Unless he's going through a mental health crisis.

[Charlamagne]

If he's going through a mental. I don't. But anybody can have a breakdown. I get it, man. But it's just because of his history is screaming stunt.

[Akash]

He also had a video that my wife showed me a couple months ago where he was like, I'm kind of enjoying not being popping because I can just walk down the street and Nobody fucking cares. And he was, like, kind of laughing at himself, so it seems like he was actually at peace with it. That's why if he's got no drugs in his system, I would feel like he'd be mentally healthier now.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah.

[Mark]

And also, who likes prison more than him anyway? So where's this picture at?

[Charlamagne]

Oh, here we go.

[Akash]

Look at that, huh? That's weights attached. I don't know if that's cropped out. Can we get the weights in there? Yeah, yeah, that's. I would see again. That's how I get waxed.

[Charlamagne]

You don't get waxed.

[Akash]

No, no.

[Charlamagne]

All the time.

[Andrew]

He put me onto the wax.

[Charlamagne]

No way.

[Akash]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Charlamagne]

But fully full balding, full baldy baby. Front to back. Rooted it to them.

[Andrew]

No, that's crazy.

[Charlamagne]

Clean it all out. Clean it all the out.

[Andrew]

Come on, Mark, ask to see it. It's not gay.

[Charlamagne]

I'm on, like, week three of having one, so it's a little. You got shadow a little bit. Little bit. Listen. Yeah, that's dope. That's actually impressive. I didn't know you could do some like that. No, because I'm not talking about his dick. I'm talking about the fact that the waves hanging from that.

[Mark]

You never did that in the shower with, like, a loofah. You guys never did that.

[Charlamagne]

A loofah ain't nothing. That's a weight you can work up. You can work. You said that's 135. How many?

[Akash]

I was just saying it's not 135.

[Charlamagne]

Is.

[Akash]

Is the bar and two wheels.

[Charlamagne]

God, you think he's not doing that?

[Akash]

Dude, he's not doing, like, five or whatever, but he's got weight on it.

[Charlamagne]

Yo, that's impressive. And it's like.

[Akash]

And it's just. Look how straight it is.

[Charlamagne]

But no, he flipped the pictures so it went down and it went up. So he must have been, like, actually curling with that motherfucker, man. Shout out to Conor McGregor. Who knew?

[Mark]

Nah, his dick's got abs. That's awesome.

[Charlamagne]

That's. That's dope. Yo, that's great, dude.

[Akash]

That's great.

[Charlamagne]

Okay, it's gay now. Back and forth. Come on, guys. Come on, guys. Is gay now. Okay, all right. Okay. What else we got? All right, what we got next?

[Akash]

I don't know where we go from this. There's nowhere to go from there.

[Charlamagne]

Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce engagement.

[Akash]

Oh, speaking of big dicks.

[Mark]

Even gayer.

[Charlamagne]

Yep. Yeah, I don't give a flying.

[Andrew]

Apparently the world does yeah.

[Akash]

You're not happy for Travis and Taylor?

[Charlamagne]

I'm happy when people actually get married. Engagements don't impress me. You know what I'm saying? Cuz you got mad people that get engaged and then they stay engaged for years.

[Akash]

Okay, you've been faithful for like eight years, so I don't want to hear.

[Charlamagne]

But guess what? But even when I got engaged, I was married within the year. That's my rule. If you get engaged, you gotta be married within the year. Especially them, because they got money. There's no excuse that they should already be set if they're married within a year. Salute to them. Engagement all in your shit. Why the government is a Republican. You heard this? I forgot you got engaged, Doc, it's.

[Akash]

Been a year and a half.

[Andrew]

We are.

[Charlamagne]

Holy shit.

[Andrew]

We are very happy.

[Akash]

How do you feel about him dating a black woman first and then marrying the whitest white woman?

[Charlamagne]

I like.

[Akash]

He did what like people accuse Post Malone of, but with vagina.

[Charlamagne]

Well, I'm not Pussy Malone. I don't not. I don't knock interracial marriage. I want you to love whoever it is that you love. But I like seeing white people with white people. Yeah. Black people with black people, Indians with Indians. You know what I'm saying?

[Akash]

I'm all about that.

[Mark]

It's nice when it matches, you know what I mean?

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, why not? Like that's not a problem to me. That's not racism. It's just like, why wouldn't you want that? Like, especially when you are. I'm not talking about them. But when you come from a minority community, like, why wouldn't you want to see your people with your people?

[Akash]

I love it.

[Charlamagne]

I don't see it so important to me. I think he did the right thing. He went back home, you know what I'm saying?

[Akash]

It was like LeBron in Miami. He went there for a few years.

[Charlamagne]

Yes. Clearly he wouldn't have been happy with a black woman.

[Andrew]

But what I don't know, cuz the.

[Charlamagne]

Guy happy he looks with a white woman.

[Akash]

He does seem happier. Yes, does seem happier.

[Charlamagne]

All these black. By the way, here's the thing. All these black women y' all tell me Travis Kelce has been with. I've never seen him with them. Yes.

[Andrew]

What do you mean?

[Akash]

Super hot girl. What's her name?

[Andrew]

Ah, damn. Drawing a black.

[Akash]

Ain't no way Alex knows a blame. I even know it too. Man's wife's name.

[Charlamagne]

I've never seen this picture in my life. You know, I know about it, but I've never seen him together, by the way.

[Andrew]

I saw him out and about together more.

[Charlamagne]

This look like they work together. Look at this picture. This picture on the red carpet. Now go back to that picture of Travis and Taylor that you just showed me. Not even the engagement. Go back. There was another one you showed me from. Look at that, man. They didn't just sign super bowl here. Nah, bro. He had. His real trophy is on his arm. Taylor Swift.

[Mark]

He looks like he's having to marry a billionaire.

[Akash]

Do you think it had to do because Kayla would say, like, he wouldn't give her any money. He was very like, my money and your money. That was like, really a big deal for him.

[Mark]

Yeah, that's gonna change now.

[Akash]

So does it seem a little fishy that he went to a billionaire?

[Charlamagne]

Nah, because Travis came up over the last year. I mean, that fucking podcast with him and his brother, they. They signed $100 million deal.

[Akash]

I. And I. I love them. I'm only asking so you can shoot these down because you're smarter than me and people don't believe you. Do you think that maybe the podcast blew up because of Taylor and that helped him get the $100 million deal? I don't think so, but I'm letting you shoot it down.

[Charlamagne]

I think. I think sort of, kind of. Taylor did help the podcast. I think there was a lot of interest in Travis because he was dating Taylor Swift, which brought people to the podcast with them being good, kept them there.

[Akash]

So if you're. I think, okay, but if you're a big team. Swifty or whatever they call him.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah.

[Akash]

Are you concerned about his motives at all? You think they're pure?

[Charlamagne]

No, it's pure.

[Akash]

I agree.

[Charlamagne]

It's pure.

[Akash]

I agree.

[Charlamagne]

It's a reason it's pure, but I.

[Akash]

Don'T want to say I agree because it's nice. White on white love.

[Charlamagne]

It's a reason. It's pure. But I want to say, because it sound misogynistic. I love white, and I don't want to disrespect his fiancee.

[Andrew]

What would a misogynist say about.

[Mark]

Yeah, like.

[Charlamagne]

Like a bad misogynist. Yeah. Be like, oh, he got a lover because she ain't got no ass. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't. I wouldn't say there's like that. I'm just saying that a misogynist would say some shit. Like. I wouldn't say.

[Mark]

That would be fucked up.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah. That wouldn't be me. I wouldn't say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

Or he could be Worried that she's gonna put him in the next album.

[Mark]

Oh, that song was slapped, though.

[Charlamagne]

How is that?

[Akash]

You gotta marry. You can't just date.

[Andrew]

Every woman would hate him forever. If he breaks her heart and she makes a banger, it's rap for.

[Charlamagne]

Let me tell you something. I've never been in Taylor Swift's world. I remember when me and Duvall were hosting something at MTV one time, and it was just a frenzy in Times Square. Cause Taylor's been out for a long fucking time. I don't know if people realized that. And we were like, who was out there? And they was like, taylor Swift. Y' all don't know Taylor Swift? And we was like, no. And y' all don't know Gucci, man. And Waka Flocka.

[Akash]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne]

You know what I'm saying? But yesterday, people were crying at iheart. Cause Taylor Swift got engaged. Like, literal tears. Like, so happy for her.

[Andrew]

And I'm like, you got a lot of white people.

[Akash]

I think we forget how white some white people are. I was in Columbus, Ohio, very sweet girl. We were meeting whatever, and she said something. She said, asked. We're talking about hip hop. And she goes, is Drake from Toronto. And I was like, oh, you don't know anything about that. And then she brought up the diss, and she was like, the beef with Kendrick. And she was like, oh, that song was crazy. Like, I think she's one song. No, but she didn't understand there was multiple songs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We forget those people. That is their Beyonce.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, this was a big deal. Like, I mean, literally, they were like, the world has stopped. I'm like, the world has not fucking stopped. Cause I'm looking at it like, okay, they got engaged and what? But to some people yesterday, this was everything. And those people, I would say this shit means nothing until they get married. Cause what if they don't get married? Like, what if they don't get married? How embarrassing would that be for Taylor Swift? How crucified would Travis go?

[Mark]

Or would they just pull the greatest publicity stunt ever?

[Charlamagne]

Right? Yeah. I mean, do they need it?

[Mark]

I mean, you can always use it.

[Charlamagne]

I do think it was dope how she went on his podcast, though.

[Akash]

Yeah. They seem very happy. They seem like a real thing.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, man. Like, you. You. You really. Y' all really fuck with each other. Because Taylor could have announced her new album anyway. She said, no, I'm gonna go to Bae's podcast even though he don't need it. He's already up 100 million from the podcast. And I'm gonna use this new medium to announce my album, Fire. I thought it was dope. Dope. God bless. That was dope.

[Mark]

White love makes you happy.

[Akash]

I love white love, dude.

[Charlamagne]

I have no problem with it. Rock out with your white out. Do it. I have no problem with it. Like, love each other.

[Mark]

Yo, how much you think Travis can bench with his dick anyway? What else we got?

[Charlamagne]

15, I think. 15. Easily 15. Where y' all rank him?

[Andrew]

Light.

[Charlamagne]

Huh?

[Andrew]

She's light. He'll need to. He could probably do five. Five pounds.

[Mark]

No, but he's strong.

[Akash]

But that's not his workout.

[Charlamagne]

He's not gonna tie Taylor to his dick and fucking do curls.

[Akash]

He just have a strong dick, probably.

[Charlamagne]

Where do y' all rank Travis Kelce, all time tight ends?

[Akash]

Two.

[Charlamagne]

You got him at number two.

[Akash]

Bronkin Kelce.

[Charlamagne]

Get the fuck out of here. That's the whitest answer ever.

[Akash]

Who you got?

[Charlamagne]

Antonio Gates.

[Akash]

Oh, my God. That's the fucking. Oh, get out of here with that. Tony Gates, he's great, but he's the greatest fighter.

[Charlamagne]

Antonio Gates, Gronk, Shannon Sharpe, Tony Gonzalez, Tony Gonzalez.

[Akash]

Tony Gonzalez is great.

[Charlamagne]

And then I got Kelce around five.

[Akash]

Tight ends just happened to become more important in the past 10 years.

[Charlamagne]

Don't forget Kevin Winslow Sr. Yeah, okay, but in my modern era that I've seen, I got Gonzalez, Gates, Gronk, Travis. But I got Travis like Shane and Sharpe.

[Akash]

Gates was great. That's a DEI answer. Why he's not better than. He wasn't the best guy.

[Charlamagne]

I mean, you name it, football, everything's gonna be a DEI answer. Like Travis is me, the di. You're right.

[Akash]

But Gronk changed like you did. He changed the entire coverage, everything, the whole game.

[Charlamagne]

I got grunk at probably 2.

[Akash]

I think Travis is great. He also did a lot with. Not great. I mean, Alex Smith was a pretty good quarterback, but he wasn't great.

[Charlamagne]

I think Gronk had the greatest playoff run of any tight end ever.

[Akash]

It's insane.

[Charlamagne]

I mean, this guy's got like 1300 yards. Some. I think some crazy number of catches. Like 96 catches or some shit like that. Four Super Bowls played through multiple injuries.

[Akash]

I think we. We do forget how good Shannon Sharpe.

[Charlamagne]

Was because he, you know, he's a podcast.

[Mark]

Watching sports, people talk. Sports is like Game of Thrones.

[Charlamagne]

I know.

[Akash]

I'm hearing you on station.

[Mark]

I'm like, what is going on?

[Akash]

You watch this new Jerry documentary I did.

[Charlamagne]

When is Gronk gonna find his white queen? When is Gronk gonna find his white queen, somebody. Really?

[Akash]

Yeah, he been in a long term relationship, you know. All right, guys, we gotta do some tour dates. September 11th, what a great day. Through the 13th, Danny, a Beach Improv. September 25th through 27th. I really wish, Danny, that through giving me September 11th, but it's there. Hey, come to the show. It's going to be explosive. September 25th through 27th, I'm at Hilarities in Cleveland. October 5th, I'm in Dubai. I don't know if there's even any tickets left. Go find out. October 16th through 18th, I'm in East Providence, Rhode Island. October 25th, 3rd through 25th, I'm in San Jose. All those dates and [e-mail] we also got a huge announcement coming and imminent announcement. This is coming right now. I remember I told y' all I invested in a chai shop like a year, year and a half ago. They opened a second location. We're expand. We're coming to Manhattan. West Village, 20 Christopher Street. It's called Fontes. They're still gonna have the masala Chad. They got some banging ass Indian sandwiches. We're growing, baby. All good things.

[Andrew]

Amazing, amazing.

[Akash]

20 Christopher Street, Fontes. Love Y'.

[Charlamagne]

All. Let's go.

[Mark]

Quick announcement. By the way, so many people have come up to me after the show, has been like, hey, dude, is there any way I can just get a photo? I don't wanna suck your dick.

[Akash]

Oh, I thought, okay. I just stopped making the announcement.

[Andrew]

I never asked to suck your dick.

[Charlamagne]

I was like, yo, to ask you.

[Akash]

I can stop making the announcement if you want. I just.

[Charlamagne]

I don't know.

[Mark]

It's great and I think it kind of gets the people going. But there's.

[Akash]

It does get the people going.

[Mark]

I think there's so many people that have come up to me and just been like, is there any way we could just do a photo and not do the thing? Like, like devout, like Muslims?

[Akash]

No, no.

[Mark]

Muslim dudes with their girls being like, hey, you got.

[Akash]

That's if the girl that's haram you sucking his dick.

[Mark]

Hello, I don't think that's true, but Nashville, Tennessee. Denver, Colorado. All right, real quick, we're gonna take a break inside of this ad read because we also have a show of Mary Lou coming up on September 9th. And I will see you guys at the.

[Akash]

He don't make no money from that show. He didn't give a fuck about that guy just cares about that fucking.

[Charlamagne]

Anyway.

[Akash]

Stupid ass fucking coffee shop.

[Mark]

Anyway, let's get the ad. Hoboken New Jersey, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Fort Wayne, Indiana, Detroit, Michigan. I'll be at all these places.

[Akash]

Where you doing in Philly?

[Andrew]

I think helium.

[Akash]

Love that club.

[Mark]

Yeah, I think it's a one nighter.

[Akash]

Hell yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I'll have my mom coming. Wait, got.

[Charlamagne]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Akash]

But you need to see. Hey, tell her to wear open toe shoes.

[Charlamagne]

Y. All respect.

[Akash]

All due respect. I want her to be comfortable.

[Mark]

Come on through and do tricks on him one time.

[Charlamagne]

I'll see you guys at the show. Peace. Like, you got a big dick. Not really. I only say that because of societal pressure because I'm dating a black man.

[Akash]

I'll be honest. I'm pretty sure my wife does that.

[Charlamagne]

Damn.

[Akash]

She'd be saying it. I'd be like, no, she said you.

[Charlamagne]

Got a big dick.

[Akash]

Stop lying.

[Charlamagne]

Did she say foreign, Indian? Or did she just tell you something crazy?

[Akash]

Can I tell you something crazy? I took my wife from a black dude.

[Charlamagne]

Dude. Oh, cuz, you're a nice guy. A nice guy. You're a nice guy. Hey, he's funny. He's funny.

[Andrew]

He's funny.

[Charlamagne]

Funny, funny. Guys, the winning man.

[Akash]

Come on, man.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, that's.

[Mark]

Really made that offensive.

[Akash]

Fun side white people. He learned how to be passive aggressive.

[Mark]

Damn right.

[Akash]

That was incredible.

[Charlamagne]

That's who. Boo.

[Akash]

Oh my God.

[Charlamagne]

That's Rob's boo.

[Akash]

Yeah. Camille Costek. Yeah, she's hot. All due respect.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah. Okay.

[Mark]

Good for Rob.

[Akash]

Yeah. I mean, God bless, dude.

[Charlamagne]

She white. This.

[Andrew]

I hate when you do this.

[Charlamagne]

I'm saying white. I don't.

[Andrew]

Nah, she's black.

[Charlamagne]

She. I'm saying she like there's some little other ethnicity. Like is she like, why?

[Andrew]

Cuz she.

[Akash]

If you had adventure again.

[Charlamagne]

Yes. Okay. I mean, I wouldn't say that. Cuz I'm not massaging this. I'm asking because she got ass, not me. I'm saying a misogynist would ask something like that. I wouldn't ask anything.

[Akash]

I like this car.

[Charlamagne]

I love this.

[Akash]

I love this.

[Andrew]

This is awesome.

[Akash]

So much fun.

[Charlamagne]

Polish, Irish and Jamaican. Jamaican descent. Get the out of here.

[Akash]

Tell your misogynist friend who had that question.

[Charlamagne]

That was a good question.

[Akash]

It's not a smart guy.

[Charlamagne]

It's not misogyny if it's just an observation, you know what I'm saying? She just looked. She looked like she had some ethnicity in her.

[Akash]

Can we put that in a fucking. So I can understand why she's saying misogyny.

[Charlamagne]

I can understand why she would say, I can understand why the misogynist person would just think she wasn't white.

[Akash]

A misogynist person looking at her, what would he say? Like, what kind of misogynistic things would he say to Fire?

[Charlamagne]

Oh, that white girl got a fat ass.

[Mark]

Look at this fat ass.

[Charlamagne]

To make him queen, would he just.

[Akash]

Call her a girl or would he have another?

[Charlamagne]

Nah, he would say, that's a little bit too much.

[Akash]

Okay. I was just curious.

[Charlamagne]

I get what you're saying. Yeah, that's chauvinistic.

[Akash]

Okay.

[Charlamagne]

You know what I'm saying? Misogynistic. Chauvinistic is when you start using the terms like the B word. You know what I mean?

[Akash]

That's me. So you're saying what I do is not acceptable.

[Charlamagne]

But when you're misogynistic, that's toxic masculinity.

[Akash]

I'm all about it.

[Charlamagne]

Don't be that way.

[Akash]

I love it, dude.

[Mark]

I'm a Jamaican woman. This is fire.

[Andrew]

I know.

[Mark]

She's beautiful. Jamaican.

[Charlamagne]

Aren't you married, Mark? But I'm just.

[Mark]

I mean, it's not racist.

[Charlamagne]

Racist? What if you're observing? What did you say, bro? You said that was intrusive thought. She's like, I want a Jamaican woman, bro. Like.

[Akash]

Like, God damn.

[Andrew]

Those are just two tight ends right there.

[Mark]

What did you say?

[Andrew]

Just two good tight ends right there.

[Akash]

That is crazy. You didn't put the disclaimer on it.

[Charlamagne]

About what it was.

[Akash]

You just said it.

[Andrew]

It's an observation.

[Charlamagne]

You just let that fly, bro. You got to put a car out with that. You got to give us a war. You can't just say like that, Alex. That's fucked up, man.

[Andrew]

I'm sorry.

[Charlamagne]

That's so sexist. Go to something less sexist.

[Mark]

Yes, thank you.

[Charlamagne]

Go to something that's not gonna make people in this room.

[Mark]

Sexy oxtail off the screen, bro.

[Andrew]

Yeah, put on Sydney Sweeney.

[Charlamagne]

Too much gravy in that oxtail. Too much gravy on that oxtail.

[Mark]

Speaking of white issues, dude, why would.

[Charlamagne]

You bring Conor back up? It's not misogynistic, by the way. I want the record to show Connor's not all the way white either. Either.

[Akash]

What do you mean?

[Charlamagne]

He's Irish.

[Andrew]

Oh.

[Charlamagne]

Oh, no. That's the whitest of the white. That's why you got that.

[Mark]

But it kind of horseshoes. It kind of horseshoes a little bit.

[Akash]

I was wondering what you were owing at. I was like, am I missing something?

[Charlamagne]

I'm Irish.

[Mark]

No, the Irish have a thing.

[Akash]

Just because you got a small dick.

[Charlamagne]

No, it's like a potato. It's like, just like A potato. It's thick but it's short.

[Mark]

There's a famine going on. No one's getting it.

[Charlamagne]

Shout out to Connor, man.

[Mark]

But I do think, like, gingers Irish, like when they get black coated, that's when they look the best.

[Charlamagne]

You know they said that gingers are black.

[Mark]

Yeah, exactly.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, I read that somewhere. Yeah.

[Akash]

Break that down for me.

[Charlamagne]

I don't know the breakdown. I just read. I just saw the headline.

[Andrew]

I didn't read all that.

[Charlamagne]

I didn't read the actual article. Look it up though. No, it's true. They said gingers are black people. I didn't, I didn't read the article. I just saw the headline.

[Mark]

You get like a ginger with like a high fade in Jordans. Like, they look awesome. Like, that is like when the ginger looks nice.

[Akash]

I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't see.

[Charlamagne]

What did you google? Are gingers black people? Oh, the TikTok trend.

[Mark]

Oh, go to images.

[Charlamagne]

While the reason TikTok trend has explored the idea that genders are black as a way to discuss shared experiences of social bias and being othered, the statement is not literally or genetically true. A person's hair color, including red, does not determine their race. Black people can have red hair and a person's red hair does not make them black.

[Akash]

Anybody who believed it and then looked that up. Google made you seem so fucking stupid.

[Charlamagne]

I just saw the headlines.

[Akash]

Not determine their race.

[Charlamagne]

Damn.

[Akash]

No, I am not even talking about you.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, but I mean, gingers don't get othered like that, do they? Yeah, not like black people.

[Andrew]

People say they like mutants.

[Charlamagne]

Gingers don't even have mutants. Gingers don't even have a soul.

[Akash]

You're gonna say soul.

[Charlamagne]

No.

[Akash]

That'S what they say about gingers. That's not what I'm saying. That's what racist people say about gingers.

[Charlamagne]

Gingers don't have a. A slur.

[Mark]

If you re ginger.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah.

[Mark]

You rearrange hard R. If you rearrange.

[Charlamagne]

Ginger with the hard R. If you.

[Akash]

Rein, it ends with the er and everything.

[Charlamagne]

Ginger. If you ginger. Mike ginger.

[Akash]

Which is.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, bitch ass ginger.

[Mark]

You can rear ginger and it spells.

[Charlamagne]

Oh. What? What? What does it spell like that?

[Akash]

The nw. If you flip the move the letters around, not backwards.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah.

[Akash]

You write two GS and then the other letters are all there.

[Charlamagne]

You're right.

[Akash]

See how I dance around that one, Al?

[Andrew]

Oh, no, Al just misspelled it.

[Charlamagne]

Never mind.

[Andrew]

I forgot the second one. Forgot the second one.

[Akash]

Al.

[Guest 1]

Was like, no, it's not.

[Andrew]

You know, we shoot over here, guys.

[Charlamagne]

Shoot, man. Shoot and shoot suit. What else we got, man? Cracker Barrel. Yes. Shout out to Cracker Barrel.

[Akash]

What do you think of this whole thing? You know, they're going back to the old logo again.

[Charlamagne]

What was wrong with the original logo?

[Akash]

Well, they just changed it, I think, on some dei, because they had such a cracker.

[Charlamagne]

I think that. I think that the right made that up. Like, I don't think that had nothing to do with DEI and just the fact that they wanted to have a cleaner logo, like.

[Akash]

But the. But it's objectively. And I'm not even angry about it.

[Charlamagne]

Okay.

[Akash]

It is a worse logo than the new one.

[Charlamagne]

Disgusting.

[Akash]

The new one sucks, right?

[Charlamagne]

It sucks. I mean, because Cracker Barrel is so iconic, like, you can't change. You really can't change the Cracker Barrel logo.

[Akash]

And it is an old country store that looks like an old country store. This new Cracker Barrel is not an old country store. It's a barrel of crackers.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah. If they wanted to be actually appropriate, though, because I saw people saying that. Yo, they removed the cracker. Yo. It's not even spelled right, bro. You got. If it was C R, A, C, K, a barrel. Different story. Like, Cracker Barrel. It's like, okay, there's actual crackers probably in that barrel. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's valid. And by the way, Cracker Barrel is amazing. Okay. Crush the butt. Nah, Come on. Stop, stop, stop. Cracker Barrel's not a white thing. It's not a black thing. Cracker Barrel is great.

[Akash]

I'm not saying it's a white thing, but it's fine. It's not amazing.

[Charlamagne]

Yes, it's amazing. Once you. You gotta have it early in the morning after you didn't have, like, a hangover or something, or, like, you out of town and you looking to go someplace to have breakfast and like, you're in Orlando or something. Yes, yes.

[Akash]

Cracker brown.

[Charlamagne]

Definitely better than I get some grandma.

[Mark]

You're playing the little peg game. You buy a giant Hershey's, you would.

[Akash]

Play the peg game.

[Charlamagne]

It's a fun game. Don't do that. Don't do that. It's a fun game.

[Mark]

It's a good time.

[Charlamagne]

You sitting. You sit in the rock out front, man. You get the biscuits with the turkey sauce and put the biscuits.

[Akash]

Seems a little like you want to, like, the apple cobbler, act some things out.

[Charlamagne]

Nah, you just. You want to get the whole cracker experience, man. So you sit in the rocking chair and just judge black people as they walk by. That's what the you do, man. Especially when you're in Florida or something. You know what I mean?

[Akash]

Exactly, you method actor.

[Charlamagne]

Why do people. Why are people upset at this though? Seriously? Like, I really have no idea. Like why, why. Why is this considered wokeness? Because they got rid of that.

[Akash]

Because the right is pushing. They act like the left is such trigger snowflakes. They're just as triggered as snowflakes, you know, all the fucking time.

[Charlamagne]

You're actually.

[Akash]

They're such pussies. It's unbelievable. And I thought it was the left, but they're both pussies. They're both pussies.

[Charlamagne]

It seems like the roles have been reversed just a little bit, right?

[Akash]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne]

Because it feel. You know what it is when you get accused of everything, you know, conservatives have gotten accused of or even just any. Anybody that pushes boundaries. Right. When you. It's your turn to hold the gun. You want to get your get back. So you become what you hate and they become what they hate. Because. Makes no sense. I don't even. Is this even offensive? The guy sitting by the barrel, like, no, no.

[Mark]

They're erasing the white guy off the logo to make him more di.

[Charlamagne]

It's not get rid of the word cracker then if you really like, if you really want to be woke about it, just call it the barrel. The barrel is. You know what I'm saying?

[Akash]

The barrel is kind of.

[Charlamagne]

If Cracker Barrel said we getting rid of the cracker, we just want to be called the barrel now, then I could be like, nah, bring the cracker back. That'll make sense. But this is silly.

[Akash]

Can I tell you what I actually think Cracker Barrel was doing?

[Charlamagne]

Talk to me.

[Akash]

Publicity. This is Lil Nas X type shit.

[Charlamagne]

You.

[Akash]

No one talked about Cracker Barrel ever. Then they took the cracker and the barrel off the logo and now everybody's up in arms. Well, you were just. When was the last time you thought about Cracker Barrel? Before this.

[Charlamagne]

And then you remembered. You were like, I was in South Carolina. I'm like, let's go to crack. Actually, we went to Cracker Barrel. I really like Cracker Barrel. Yes. Every time I've gone to Cracker Barrel. When I was in South Carolina two weeks ago, whenever I was in South Carolina, I went to Cracker Barrel. Yeah, I like Cracker Barrel. American.

[Andrew]

Where you you at, cuz? Everyone I've gone to, it's old fat white people. Every single.

[Charlamagne]

What the people got to do with.

[Akash]

The food of those restaurants. So it's ihop. Denny's, Bob Evans, Cracker Barrel. I would say IHOP is number one, but Cracker Barrel, I put two.

[Mark]

Actual food.

[Charlamagne]

Yes.

[Akash]

But does IHOP not have food?

[Charlamagne]

No.

[Mark]

You can't get fried chicken. You got to get waffle.

[Akash]

Absolutely. Get fried chicken and a waff waffle.

[Charlamagne]

I've only gone to Cracker Bar for breakfast. I've never gone for anything else. And I've only gone to IHOP to have breakfast as well. That be funny. You said what? If you put little Nas X as the logo, what would you call Cracker?

[Akash]

You can add a word of water. There's two barrels.

[Charlamagne]

Listen, somebody should make that. Put little Nas X in his underwear, but make it look like the Cracker Barrel logo and call it.

[Mark]

I wouldn't. I wouldn't eat those grits.

[Charlamagne]

I wouldn't eat those grits. Damn. Yeah, yeah. Cracker Bar is great. I don't know what y' all talking about.

[Mark]

I heard someone said this was stock manipulation population because apparently the stock was high. And then they do this whole rebrand thing and then the stock plummets and then people buy in back up. And all these companies aren't even real restaurants. They're actually just like real estate companies.

[Akash]

They own the land. Probably billions of dollars in free publicity from this.

[Charlamagne]

Right? Trump said that? Yeah.

[Akash]

Trump tweets about Charlemagne and now Cracker Barrel and Andrew. Yeah, this is his big talking point.

[Charlamagne]

Trump said. Trump said they got billions of dollars worth of property. They need to add the logo back and what do you say? Revamp the menu or some shit. I saw the tweet. It was a so true social post. I forgot exactly what he said. But this is a nothing burger.

[Akash]

I mean, no, but that. I think that's their idea. That's why I think really, it's some genius.

[Mark]

Also, if we put the cracker back on there, which they will, they're going to. We need to put Uncle Head.

[Akash]

Cracker has spoken. They're putting the cracker back in the barrel.

[Charlamagne]

Damn.

[Mark]

I want Uncle Ben back on the rice because that feels wrong that we.

[Charlamagne]

Got rid of Uncle.

[Akash]

It was crazy. You got rid of the black dudes rice. Aunt Jemima, she still had the pancakes.

[Andrew]

Yeah, See, look, I ain't know that.

[Charlamagne]

Cracker Brown should go back to the old logo. This is Trump admit a mistake based on customer response.

[Akash]

The ultimate poll.

[Charlamagne]

And manage the company. That's actually true though. And manage the company better than ever before. They get a billion dollars worth of free publicity if they play their cards right. That's true.

[Akash]

There you go. Hey, look at that. Trump and I think alike.

[Charlamagne]

I will say this though.

[Akash]

Hey, we should have him on this podcast.

[Charlamagne]

This, this lets you know how popping Cracker Barrel is though. You never know how popping you are till you in the midst of a scar, you know what I'm saying? Like if nobody, if they did this and nobody gave a fuck, then it's like, oh shit, nobody cares about cracker Bar. The fact they did this. And it's such an uproar where even the president, I mean, I said like, even the president is tweeting about it. It's like, you know, does that even mean anything nowadays? But yeah, cracker brow is still a big deal, bro.

[Andrew]

Yeah, he says that. Cause the President was tweeting about his.

[Charlamagne]

Ass, you know, I mean, it means you popping. That's a good observation.

[Akash]

I like it. I mean, Drake putting you in a rap song is now the number two mental mention of hate you've ever gotten. Think about that. Drake put you in an all time diss record and that is now number two on the list of cool mentions you've gotten. Yeah, of hatred.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah.

[Akash]

Is that fire?

[Charlamagne]

I mean, technically I've gotten. I kind of got like roasted by two presidents.

[Akash]

Who was the other one?

[Charlamagne]

Well, Joe Biden when he said, if you don't know whether to vote for me or Trump, you ain't black. Oh, that's right.

[Akash]

I'm not gonna count that one.

[Charlamagne]

It was a cool moment that you.

[Akash]

Were a part of, but it wasn't.

[Charlamagne]

He know he kind of called me the N word.

[Mark]

He kind of said that, right?

[Charlamagne]

Yeah.

[Akash]

No, when Trump called you a low IQ individual.

[Mark]

A little bit.

[Charlamagne]

You're right, you're right, you're right. He called me a racist. Sleep. And you're right, you're right.

[Andrew]

Didn't Obama come at you?

[Charlamagne]

No, Obama never came. And you've never seen a closed cracker bar. You ain't never seen a closed down cracker bar anywhere in America.

[Akash]

Never seen a closed eye hopping I with ihop.

[Charlamagne]

Ihop. Listen, I got, I hold IHOP in high regard. Okay? Beautiful. High regard.

[Akash]

We're on the same page.

[Charlamagne]

But if they, we keep going this path, they're gonna want to take the whole out of ihop and then what? Oh yes, the whole defensive and international. Somebody made that already?

[Akash]

No, I put it into Sora. Okay.

[Charlamagne]

You gotta change it to Bussy though.

[Akash]

Honestly. That's merch. That's merch, top. That's merch. Well, listen, Vegas. And flagrant merch.

[Charlamagne]

Can you make it look. Can you put him in his underwear but make it look the same color as the Cracker Barrel logo? And then put. That's like the year. Yo. This is so stupid.

[Akash]

And the underline can be. Take a walk down Old Town Road or whatever. Like, just make that as gay as we can. A little gay in the window. And now you got merch. Lil Nas X, hit us up, dude.

[Charlamagne]

Listen, what are you using? What are you using to make this so fast?

[Akash]

Sora, Chat GPT is like image creator.

[Charlamagne]

I didn't know they had that. Oh, man. Yep. So I can just go to Chat GPT and look up Sora.

[Mark]

You can go to ChatGPT, just have them make an image.

[Andrew]

They have, like, extensions that you can add to it.

[Akash]

And then there's a different app, right, Called Sora.

[Andrew]

No, it's within ChatGPT.

[Charlamagne]

That is hilarious.

[Mark]

But you can just do it within ChatGPT. Be like, make an image of this.

[Charlamagne]

You know how to spell bussy? I'm just making sure you not spell bussy. B, U, S, S, Y.

[Akash]

That felt condescending somehow.

[Charlamagne]

What?

[Akash]

I don't know. Who doesn't know how to smell somebody who don't like.

[Mark]

Wait a second. It's a good point, honestly.

[Andrew]

While we working on that, what we got next?

[Charlamagne]

That's why I didn't say nothing. I want to see how y' all keep the show moving. I'm just trying to. I'm just fitting in.

[Akash]

This is.

[Andrew]

This is brilliant. Idiots Ball, Really?

[Charlamagne]

This is fun. I like.

[Guest 1]

I mean, speaking of Trump, you think he's dying?

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[Akash]

Do you think Trump is dying?

[Charlamagne]

We're all dying. Okay. We're literally all dying on his hand.

[Andrew]

What do you think that is?

[Akash]

I look forward to hearing your take on this.

[Charlamagne]

I cannot remember who it is. I don't know. I really feel like it was Chris. It was either Chris Morrow or Sheikh Luch. I'm not even joking. I can't remember who said this. It's either Chris Morrow or Sheik Luch. I'm leaning towards Sheik, but there was a thing that somebody said when it was like, yo. I think the reason Trump is moving the way he's moving is because he don't have much longer living. This was months ago. They said this about Trump and Putin. I saw it was either Chris or Sheikh.

[Andrew]

It might have been Chris.

[Charlamagne]

I know Chris said it about Putin.

[Andrew]

Yeah, Chris was you. We got Chris in the room.

[Akash]

Chris.

[Charlamagne]

Hey, guys.

[Chris]

I just shared a clip. This is a something I've been watching. We don't know if this guy is accurate or not, but here's his theory.

[Charlamagne]

Let's let him. Donald Trump is not golfed in 13 days. Today would be 14 days, the longest absence since taking office in January. Then the president put he is dying. And then this is Trump tracker.

[Mark]

Read the fact check, though. Read the fact check because I think that's important.

[Charlamagne]

Trump has golfed every weekend. He's golf, golfing his. Huh?

[Akash]

He's been golfing since 10:14am today.

[Charlamagne]

Damn.

[Akash]

Okay, so that wasn't what, a roller coaster, right? Oh, I saw this one, Chris. You've been jerking off of this.

[Charlamagne]

I'm a home health.

[Doctor/Miles]

Every five minutes with a doctorate in my field. I see congestive heart failure patients on a daily basis. Reason I know that he has congestive heart failure is because of the swelling in his feet and ankles. The reason I know it's getting worse is because he's sitting behind the desk on camera. Now he lashed out against MSNBC for giving him hash about his anxiety ankles. This is how we know that something is true, because it gets to Trump. Remember recently where he was talking about going to heaven? For some reason, nobody talked about not doing very well. I don't think he's talking about the media. I think he's talking about the doctors who are treating him. The only reason his health has been maintained at all is because he has the privilege of getting IV diuretics, Spiralactone, Lasix, Bumex, something like that. That's why his hands have been bruised and covered with makeup up Badly, I might add. We know that it's getting worse because he knows he cannot hide the degree of swelling. That's why he's sitting behind the desk.

[Charlamagne]

Oh.

[Doctor/Miles]

He also has chronic kidney disease, which is also contributing to the swelling in the feet and ankles. I can't tell you how many times I have seen a patient in their home because they were hospitalized for aki, or acute kidney injury. The kidney injury was caused by nephrotoxic medications, namely diuretics, spironolactone, bumex, lace basics. The president is definitely getting sicker. We know he's not going to change his diet because he's such a fucking idiot. I think he's going to be around for six to eight months tops. Thank you for your attention in this matter.

[Charlamagne]

Damn, he put a time on it. Yeah, he said six to eight months, tops. Here's the thing. I don't like diagnosing people, but I mean, he is at what, 8? How old is he? 78.

[Mark]

79.

[Charlamagne]

79 years old. You know, he's been eating a lot of fast foods. I know people personally who are on his show heartless. And, you know, I remember saying to one of them, like, would you really want to be their. His vp? Like you really want to attach, you know, what you got going on to that? And the person replied to me and said, look, man, he's such and such years old and he eats a lot.

[Akash]

Of cheeseburgers, meaning they think they could be president within this term.

[Charlamagne]

That's what he. That's what, that's what the person.

[Akash]

That's why they were interested in being vice president.

[Charlamagne]

That's what the person said. I mean, I don't know how much interest was actually in them, but their name was being put on the shortlist when. And you know, the short list was out there.

[Akash]

May I ask if it was a male or female? No, that means it was a female. No, if it was a male. There's so many dudes, it could be a they. So many dudes.

[Charlamagne]

He's could be a they.

[Akash]

Trump, Bank, Pino, they. You got him confused with Kamala.

[Charlamagne]

I don't know, man. Like I said, I don't want to diagnose him, but there's something there. I actually did this on the Daily Show. I did a whole piece about how the media gave Biden hell for every little physical ailment for his age and everything, but yet they ignore all Trump shit. And actually, when you listen to how liberals used to cover for Trump, just go listen to how conservative media, Fox.

[Akash]

News, same to same.

[Charlamagne]

It's literally when I say the same language. The same language. I literally played a clip from Liberal News, played a clip from Fox. It's the same exact language. So I think it's just different for.

[Andrew]

Trump because cognitively, he doesn't look like he's on a decline as much as Biden. Then also he. He actually does, but he keeps everybody confused. Like he's doing so.

[Charlamagne]

Exactly.

[Andrew]

Biden was just not doing enough. So it's like you focus on his health.

[Charlamagne]

Like, God bless his dead. If somebody like old dirty bastard was still alive and he was wilding and he was losing it cognitively, nobody would even understand or even notice because he's been crazy his whole life. So it's the same thing with somebody like Trump. He's been saying wild shit his whole life. So it's just like nobody even notices that he could be on his cognitive decline now when he says wild shit.

[Akash]

Well, here's what I would say, and I know this happens quickly, but we talked to him, what, a year ago? And the one thing I would push.

[Charlamagne]

Got him elected, bro. You. We did, yeah.

[Mark]

You posted him on Instagram.

[Charlamagne]

That helped.

[Akash]

I did post him on Instagram. I didn't, if anything, got that question. Lost me quite a few.

[Charlamagne]

Y' all are part of the manosphere that they talk about that normalized.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I wasn't here.

[Charlamagne]

You were right there. There's nobody that they say normalized Trump more than flagrant and Rogan.

[Akash]

Can I. Can I say one thing?

[Andrew]

There's no ad they said that worked better for Trump than your ad that you did.

[Charlamagne]

So, yeah.

[Akash]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlamagne]

You were in a Trump ad. Never saw it. Never.

[Akash]

To me. I remember. I was like, I looked it up. I was like, what were the polls back then? Because I didn't remember some like, hey, Trump is going to lose. Polls were neck and neck. Trump has always overperformed in the polls. So, look, we might have swung some boats. I'm not saying we didn't. But to me, it was like this guy could very well win. I want to talk to the guy who could be president, see if I can sneak in a couple of questions.

[Charlamagne]

Why would you not interview a former president, future president of the United States of America? You know what I'll think about the other day? I was thinking about how people give comedians and celebrities more shit for sitting down with Trump than they do somebody like a Merrick Garland for not prosecuting Trump. And what made me think about that was what I was. I was watching the old clip of me and Kamala. And I was asking her, how come? I said, do you feel like Merrick Garland should have, you know, went after, you know, Trump sooner? Because I say I feel like the Biden administration talks about him being an extension threat, but y' all don't act like he is, which makes the American people feel like he's not. And, you know, she was like, well, I let the DOJ do them, we do us, blah, blah, blah. But I was just sitting back thinking, like, dope. That's.

[Akash]

That's the right.

[Charlamagne]

Y' all was in the office for four years. You could have actually prosecuted him. Right. Which did it way earlier, which could have made him stay out of the election altogether. Who knows? But it just seems weird to go after, you know, Snoop and Nelly and, you know, the podcast bros for interviewing him. But y' all don't got no smoke for Biden. Biden for staying in too long and Merrick Garland for not prosecuting.

[Akash]

Look, I don't love getting the smoke, but I get it. I'll accept my part, but I wish we focused much more focus on the Democrats just fumbling at every fucking turn.

[Charlamagne]

I'm hopefully fixing that because it wouldn't have gotten to that point where he could come to y' all if they.

[Akash]

Would have did their job thousand percent.

[Charlamagne]

You know what I'm saying? So if you're going to be, you know, I just. I just. I don't know, it just feels strange. Am I tripping, Chris, on which part? Shouldn't Merrick Garland and have done his job?

[Akash]

I would love to hear. You're a liberal cuck. I would love to hear your feedback on us. I say that with love to empower him.

[Chris]

Fuck you, too, but whatever.

[Akash]

What do you want to know what your thoughts are?

[Charlamagne]

Answer my question first, then curse Akasha.

[Akash]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne]

Should. Should Merrick Garland should have prosecuted Trump earlier?

[Chris]

Yeah, I mean, I think it is easier to go after media people.

[Charlamagne]

Sure.

[Chris]

But, you know, there are political considerations that come into stuff like that. I can't.

[Charlamagne]

And then Biden been for Biden to say after the fact, I should have hired somebody else as Attorney General because they would have actually went and prosecuted him. It's like, come on, bro, don't play in our face like that. You know what I mean?

[Chris]

Well, but that kind of ties in. All right, so if you take like the Giselle or what's her name?

[Charlamagne]

Zelle Maxwell. Yeah, right.

[Chris]

Where they're saying she. She offered something to Biden and he turned it down, and everyone's saying there's no way he would turn that down. Right. Politically you wouldn't turn that down.

[Charlamagne]

But.

[Chris]

But on the other hand, the narrative has been like, the Democrats fumble every political opportunity they get and they don't know how to play hardball and they don't know how to like Trudeau. So then maybe she did offer it. So.

[Akash]

But if she offered it and it was worth it, then go after it. Cuz she has ostensibly a lot to offer. She could give you a ton of shit. So yeah, we'll let you out, but you got to give us something real and then we'll go after you.

[Charlamagne]

Right.

[Akash]

And it doesn't seem like they did. They didn't release any lists. They didn't release any. All the stuff we're accusing Trump of. I think Trump is worse than what Biden was, but it's not like they were doing a great job.

[Charlamagne]

No. And Merrick Garland said he didn't want to go after Trump because he didn't want to make it political. But it's like if a person was actually committing crimes, then I would expect the Attorney General to go after him. So when he says things like he didn't want to because he didn't want to make it political, it kind of makes you think like, well, damn, maybe it was nothing there. And if you would have went after him, then it would have just been political. You know what I mean?

[Akash]

The only pushback I give is the Supreme Court is so conservative, they would have gotten him out of whatever jam.

[Charlamagne]

But the law is the law. I still feel like if there's an actual threat to democracy, if there's an actual threat to the Constitution, you should pursue it. And it just seems weird that Merrick Garland gets no smoke. At least Biden gets some smoke from people. Merrick Garland gets no smoke. But you want to blame the celebrities for performing at inauguration balls and podcast hosts for interviewing them. That shit shouldn't, it shouldn't even have got to that, that point. It got to that point cuz Merrick Garland didn't do his job.

[Chris]

But what would you have had him.

[Charlamagne]

Do then prosecute Trump earlier for the insurrection?

[Mark]

I also think the turning point was the, the assassination attempt, I think was momentum shift. Like it was that moment. And that was the only one of his rallies that got televised by cnn, that moment that CNN put on tv.

[Akash]

Also, I said this on Patreon, but the idea that we, we didn't say anything salacious to Trump. Alex looked him dead in his face and goes, your ear looks great, by the way. I Mean, there's a strong implication that maybe that wasn't.

[Charlamagne]

I thought that when you said that.

[Akash]

I was like, God damn.

[Mark]

But people wanted, like a tough question, like, to hold his feet to the fire.

[Charlamagne]

Well, I thought the immigration portion did that very well. Because here's the thing, that you're only gonna hold somebody's feet to the fire based off the things that you care about, because that's when the conversation is better in an interview, Right? Like, if I'm holding your feet to the fire for some shit I don't even really believe in, it'll be like, it'll come and go. It's like a fart, you know what I mean? But for something I actually believe in. If you go back and you watch that exchange him and Schultz had over immigration and you know what we're actually seeing happen, people that don't need to be deported, actually getting deported, that was a good exchange, you know what I mean?

[Andrew]

And calling him out for dodging the question. And then he comes up with the whole weave situation.

[Charlamagne]

He told you I'm weaving. What you supposed to do when a man tells you he's weaving?

[Mark]

You know what I'm saying?

[Akash]

Legitimately. So funny I was going to say, though, I didn't see cognitive decline there. He was so sharp. He seemed incredibly aware of everything.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, yeah. They're talking about physical decline more than cognitive.

[Akash]

Yeah.

[Mark]

And people point to this video of him golfing and they're like, what? Watch him walk. His walk is terrible.

[Charlamagne]

I'm like, oh, he's almost 80 and he's 300 pounds, bad shape.

[Andrew]

Like, he's actually, for most 80 year olds, he's pretty good.

[Mark]

It seems like he's walking fine.

[Charlamagne]

I don't know.

[Mark]

Like, again, I see the bruise on his hands, like the edema in his legs, whatever. But.

[Charlamagne]

I will say, though, there is something about this moment in time. I don't know if Trump does the whole four years. I don't feel like he's going to do four years.

[Akash]

Why?

[Charlamagne]

I don't know the reason why, but I had a theory and I still kind of hold on to this theory and I still believe that there's like a coup going on in the Republican Party. It's a slow couple that he may not even be aware of. But I do feel like, you know, J.D. vance is being propped up in a way. And I do go back to when, you know, J.D. vance allegedly met with the Rupert Murdoch and them. And that was the first week. That was the week that they said, what did they Say they put in the Wall Street Journal that Trump had wrote a letter to Epstein.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Charlamagne]

Right.

[Akash]

That was the same week that.

[Charlamagne]

And then the next week is when Speaker Mike J. Johnson said, we're gonna take a break so the Epstein files can be bought up for a vote. And then also that week in the Wall Street Journal, it came out and they said that Trump was in the Epstein files and he knew he was in the Epstein files since May. So to me, I felt like all of that kept the conversation going. It threw the ball in the air, you know what I mean? But it's just like people have kind of moonwalked away from the Epstein thing thing. But I still feel like there's something there with the Epstein thing, man. Because the Epstein thing is the only issue that will make people to make the MAGA base, not mad at other conservatives.

[Akash]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne]

You know what I mean?

[Guest 1]

Ghislaine's speaking point. She said that Trump wasn't in the Epstein file and was never a bad guy and all of that.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, I would say that, too. After you send me to a security. A prison. That's less. That's not as dangerous. Yeah, yeah.

[Akash]

I think every. Yeah. Anytime you're talking about the president and you're in jail, you're gonna be like, no, president's not.

[Sponsor Voice]

No.

[Charlamagne]

Great.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Akash]

Good guy.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah.

[Akash]

Also, who the is she to decide who a good guy is? The worst ever. The out of here. No, you're not a good judge of character. You're garbage.

[Andrew]

And she keeps framing everything as just massages. Like, oh, he didn't get a massage. Like, there was no. She acts like there was no, like, kid.

[Mark]

She's a legit pedophile.

[Akash]

Massages.

[Mark]

Like, ideally, you want a pedophile to be like, oh, this guy was super boring and lame, never diddled anyone. He sucks.

[Akash]

You know what I mean?

[Mark]

Like, that's what you want them.

[Akash]

Yeah, that guy sucks. If he says you're a great, he's a fun time.

[Charlamagne]

I will say Trump has done a fantastic job of changing the narrative on the Epstein files. He got that out the news cycle.

[Andrew]

Boy, it took him a while, though.

[Charlamagne]

It took him a while by his standards. But really, it wasn't long after. It was like two or three weeks. People are just completely. They stop talking about it. And it's so strange to me because as you said earlier, whenever you say the truth about him, that's when he gets upset. Why would they ever stop talking about the Epstein puzzles?

[Akash]

Because they don't know what they're doing.

[Charlamagne]

They don't know what the fuck they're doing.

[Akash]

Yo, we're never gonna stop talking about it. I think this guy on the list. Do you think he fucked kids?

[Charlamagne]

I don't know.

[Andrew]

I think he's protecting pedophile. False.

[Akash]

That is a good.

[Charlamagne]

Either way.

[Akash]

I thought a lot about how to say something that wouldn't piss off too many people, but still.

[Charlamagne]

What'S wrong with. I mean, I don't know. We don't know. I don't know. But we know that there's something there. That's why you investigated. Yeah. Let's see the list. If there's nothing there, show us what's up.

[Andrew]

If there was hundreds of women, I don't think Epstein was putting in all that work. That's all I'm saying.

[Akash]

Yeah, well, no, but that's kind of libido.

[Charlamagne]

But Epstein wasn't. But that was the point. Epstein was getting all these young girls for some of the most powerful people in the the world.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I know, but that's what I'm saying. So by not putting out the files, you're protecting all those people?

[Mark]

Like everyone's going to protect him. Biden protected him.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mark]

The U.S. government.

[Andrew]

I think everybody's guilty.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah. I don't give a. Who's on the list. It all should burn down. Everybody should get thrown under the bus. And it would be great because now we can finally get rid of that old regime and move on with new pedophiles.

[Akash]

I was on board with everything till.

[Andrew]

The last year, but that's probably gonna happen.

[Mark]

Exactly. That's.

[Charlamagne]

That's. That's the government.

[Mark]

That's just what happens, you know?

[Charlamagne]

What I mean is, man, it really is. So we never answered the question. What do we think Trump's dying? Nobody.

[Akash]

I don't think he's dying. I'm going be honest. I think he's going to live forever.

[Charlamagne]

Damn.

[Akash]

I don't think Trump ever dies.

[Mark]

I think he'll make it through this term. If I had to guess, I'm going to take the over. I will take the over.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, I'm not even. I'm not talking about. Yeah, I don't think. Yeah. What do you think, Alex? I don't know.

[Andrew]

It's hard. I think he died before his.

[Charlamagne]

Damn.

[Andrew]

I think he does like this.

[Charlamagne]

That.

[Andrew]

That's bad. That's a lot of IVs going in and out.

[Akash]

That's adrenochrome. No, that's adrenochrome. That's little kid's blood forever.

[Charlamagne]

You know what I hate?

[Andrew]

That's a lot of in and out IVs. And so if they. If he's getting that much.

[Akash]

No, this is because he was a nurse.

[Charlamagne]

Is that picture real? Yeah. There's no way that picture is real. And not one press person ask him.

[Akash]

About his hand because he hires.

[Andrew]

I mean, he approves all the press people who can ask asking questions, so.

[Charlamagne]

They'Re not asking anything that he wants. Even if you're a press person that's hired by Trump, you still want to ask the question.

[Andrew]

Like, you ask him anything he doesn't like, you're out the room forever for the rest of his term.

[Akash]

That is the Trump move.

[Charlamagne]

God damn. You can't even ask the press secretary when she's up on the.

[Andrew]

Can't ask anything they don't like.

[Charlamagne]

Yo, some of these people ask about Epstein. I've seen some of these presses where some of these people have bought up the Epstein 17 files. Somebody he sits in front of has to ask him about his hand. They should ask him about his health. Then you owe that to the American people. You got to ask about his hand. You got to ask about him.

[Andrew]

My other theory was that Putin got to him after a little handshake when they met his hand up and what was it? Australia? No, it was so tight.

[Charlamagne]

Damn.

[Andrew]

Probably put some little poison on it. Oh, that's a Russian move to be poisoning.

[Akash]

That is true.

[Charlamagne]

Why does Putin walk around with his poop? Did we ever find. Find that out?

[Mark]

Because they think he has cancer is what I've heard.

[Charlamagne]

That that's.

[Mark]

That's the theory that I've heard.

[Akash]

Colostomy bag.

[Mark]

No, that he goes and shits, and then he has his personal security go and collect the feces, put in a briefcase, and fly back home.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, but why?

[Andrew]

Because you can. Because you know about people's health by testing the poop.

[Mark]

Like, if you can collect it, then you can go through every.

[Akash]

You got to analyze every.

[Charlamagne]

No, no, no, no.

[Mark]

The US Government, if he's visiting in Alaska, he shits into an American bathroom in Alaska. Alaska. The US Government then could go in, collect his feces, go through a stool sample, get a whole profile on his health records, be like, oh, he's got this. He's got this. He's taking these supplements because he's got this illness. He's going to die in these amount of days and.

[Guest 1]

Or you could make a poison that's specific to his.

[Akash]

Wait, hold on. Why do they don't allow him to flush the toilet. They're just like, you're not going to flush the toilet.

[Charlamagne]

That's what I'm saying. Vladimir Putin.

[Akash]

I'm flushing the fucking toilet.

[Mark]

Wait, who doesn't.

[Andrew]

He doesn't want the American government to have his shit.

[Akash]

It's not that, but he flushes the toilet.

[Charlamagne]

That's right. He don't know how.

[Mark]

The American sewage government runs a pipe to collect his shit. Specifically, they say, yeah, Putin use this bathroom. It's a part of a CIA.

[Akash]

The fuck are we even talking?

[Charlamagne]

That's my boy.

[Guest 1]

We overthrew governments. Why do we not change a toilet pipe?

[Mark]

We tried to kill Fidel by making his beard fall out. We tried to poison him with the fucking lipstick.

[Charlamagne]

Okay, I'm be honest with you, when I'm on the couch with a bunch of comedians, I don't know when y' all are being serious or funny. So I'm just saying.

[Akash]

They think the US Government has a whole Putin shit pipeline.

[Mark]

They try to put bombs on birds.

[Guest 1]

Trillions of dollars. What are we talking about?

[Charlamagne]

Is there. I really do want to know why they. They said they collect his poop and urine.

[Mark]

Is there value to the US Government to know Putin's health profile?

[Chris]

So no matter how diluted it Marcus said, makes sense.

[Guest 1]

Yeah, of course.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah.

[Guest 1]

Why would it.

[Charlamagne]

But how would they get his poop? Once. Once Putin poops and then flushes, it goes into the sewers.

[Chris]

They would set up.

[Guest 1]

They would set up a second pipe.

[Chris]

They would direct it to somewhere where they're collecting it, and then they'd run all the. The tests.

[Charlamagne]

What would be the benefit of that, though?

[Mark]

Because then you get his whole health profile.

[Akash]

I don't believe.

[Mark]

And if you believe that it's possible that you've gotten a tip from an inside agent that says, yeah, he's sick, he's going to die soon. You need to confirm that. So then you're going to run a health profile on a se to find out that he's ill.

[Charlamagne]

So why they not doing that to Trump when he's in other countries then? Oh, I'm sure. Trump collecting his own poop. Like, I'm almost certain they do.

[Mark]

If he's ill, then they might be.

[Charlamagne]

And then maybe they took the piss.

[Akash]

Out of that Russian girl's mouth.

[Charlamagne]

Damn.

[Mark]

They made her spit like a wine. Wine tasting.

[Charlamagne]

Damn.

[Mark]

But like, remember during COVID when Putin was sitting hella far away from everybody, they thought it was because he has some type of like, potentially an autoimmune disease, or he was compromised because he was undergoing cancer treatment and so all the pictures of him during COVID he's sitting super far away across the table.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah. I mean, no, that's. Chris was saying that for a while. Like, there was all these rumors about. I'm sorry, Chris. I don't want to put you up. I don't know if you threw your hands up, like. No, don't.

[Andrew]

He set it up. Brilliant. And that doesn't check out. Putin still looks a lot that rumor.

[Chris]

Has been floating around about.

[Akash]

That's what I'm saying. They're not going to die.

[Andrew]

Trump will probably forever.

[Chris]

I mean, the thing is. Is Trump sick? Yeah, probably. Is he going to get the best medical attention?

[Charlamagne]

That's what I'm saying. Yes.

[Chris]

Known to mankind, definitely.

[Charlamagne]

So that's the thing.

[Mark]

If Biden could finish his term, I think Trump.

[Akash]

I've been waiting on Jerry Jones to die for about 15 years. This guy be stage 4 cancer. You met him. Did you try to put any points? I'd have fucking given you something.

[Charlamagne]

Nah, I told him, I said, yo, man, you got to get this shit together, man. You know what I mean? Because you bullshit, and we've been out here rooting for you for a long time. And he. He said, yeah, man. You know, he said, look, man, he said, you know, sometimes you zig when you should zag, but you gotta zig that way and zag that way. And I'm like, okay, you know, what the fuck is he even talking? That was the craziest part.

[Andrew]

He gave you the Trump weed.

[Charlamagne]

That was some ridiculous small talk that he didn't even have to deal with.

[Akash]

If you ever watch an interview with him, he answers every question like that. I've been thinking, he has dementia. He's still alive and kicking.

[Mark]

He just speaks in riddles.

[Charlamagne]

He took a shot with us, though.

[Akash]

Of course he did. He's a fucking alcoholic.

[Charlamagne]

Of course he wasn't surprised. I mean, at his age, I'm like, dan, you still drink? He took a shot and, like, some of that shit's built on his shirt.

[Akash]

And he just kept it going. That's why he has this Netflix documentary, so he can remember the good days, because he's forgotten all this.

[Charlamagne]

That shit is fire, though.

[Akash]

I'm not watching.

[Charlamagne]

You should. Nah, fuck the nah. Cause you gotta watch that shit. If I should be proud to be.

[Akash]

A cowboy fan, guys, I'll watch it. I'm gonna celebrate the good times.

[Charlamagne]

Listen, that shit makes you proud to be a cowboy fan. I'm like, yo, I gotta let my oldest daughter watch this so she understands why we became the way we became. You need to know why your granddad tased somebody at MetLife Stadium on 911 at a Cowboys game. You need to know why your grandfather has a tattoo that says six time super bowl champion even though we only won five. You need to know why your father is a die hard cowboy fan like his. You need to know why they call your grandfather cowboy. This is why these glory days don't punish her.

[Akash]

Some good times that happened in the past.

[Mark]

Rewind on more of these stories for the past.

[Charlamagne]

Who do you guys?

[Akash]

His dad chased a guy at MetLife Stadium on 911.

[Charlamagne]

A Marine. Break it down. The Cowboys were playing the jets and my dad was there with his wife.

[Akash]

It wasn't 911 though, cuz 911 was a Tuesday. So they weren't playing on Tuesday.

[Charlamagne]

No, no, no, no, no. 911 anniversary.

[Akash]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne]

It was 911 anniversary.

[Mark]

Well you knowing that is suspect. You can't know that too much.

[Charlamagne]

I know you're adding.

[Mark]

You're adding jet fuel. You're adding jet fuel to that.

[Guest 1]

Every, every 91111 doc goes it's the most beautiful Tuesday ever.

[Charlamagne]

They always talk about it. That's how I think I would do. It was the 911 anniversary and my. Yeah, my dad was there with his wife. I was in the jets owner suite and they asked me if I wanted my dad in here with me and I said no, he don't know how to act. And so he was out there.

[Akash]

And you Woody Johnson suite.

[Charlamagne]

I. I guess whatever. Your house, he owned it Just for a while.

[Akash]

Yeah, yeah. Johnson and Johnson. That broke ass vaccine.

[Charlamagne]

That's really Woody Johnson? Yeah.

[Akash]

Oh that's Johnson Johnson.

[Charlamagne]

I didn't know that.

[Mark]

Yeah, Woody Johnson. That is double dick name.

[Charlamagne]

That's f name. That's the greatest porn name ever. But yeah, my dad just got into it like he cuz he. You know we grew up Jehovah Witness and everybody stood for the anthem. He didn't stand but also he was, he was a little older so he didn't want to stand. And when his wife got up to use the bathroom, the Marine was like I'm not moving because y' all didn't get up for the anthem. My dad was like man, get the out the way, you know what I'm saying? Like. And he was like nah, I'm not moving. And so my dad tastes.

[Akash]

I think your dad was 100%.

[Charlamagne]

You see right there, look fan. This was on the front page of the New York Post. Fan uses illegal Taser at Jeff's game.

[Akash]

Can you read the first sentence? Read the first sentence.

[Charlamagne]

What year was this, by the way?

[Mark]

You want me to read it?

[Akash]

Can you see it?

[Charlamagne]

Damn. We had just started Breakfast Club. Breakfast club started 20, 2010.

[Akash]

So this is. You're already making headlines. Charlamagne McKelvey isn't sure how his father got an illegal taser into MetLife Stadium on the 10th anniversary. It's a 10th anniversary, too.

[Charlamagne]

Damn. I didn't realize it was the 10th anniversary. Jesus Christ. Sunday night.

[Guest 1]

That's so funny.

[Akash]

Oh, you lied. He said he was attacked by four or five jets jerseys. No, he was attacked by four or five jets fans for having a Dallas jersey on. You said it was about him being a Cowboy fan. It was because he sat talking about.

[Charlamagne]

Time out, time out, bleep that. Cuz. That was the truth.

[Andrew]

I was like, I never heard this version.

[Charlamagne]

But no, he did. He did. He did get jumped, though. There's a video. He did get jumped. Now, I never saw this part, though. You said, I'm joking for the pod. We joking for the pod. Can we please listen? Can we please keep it? I don't care. We joking for the podcast.

[Andrew]

I'm like.

[Charlamagne]

You say this.

[Andrew]

I'm like, damn. I never heard this verse.

[Charlamagne]

I was always told that he wouldn't get up, but he did get jumped. But it's Jet Stadium. You got a Cowboys jersey on. Of course. They gonna heck with a Cowboys.

[Akash]

Oh, my God.

[Charlamagne]

Hold on. This year made Fox News. I don't remember this. Now.

[Akash]

We lost that game, by the way. I said we like. I'm still a fan of the game.

[Charlamagne]

You are, Man, Come on. Once you're from Dallas, bro. Once a Cowboy, always a cowboy.

[Andrew]

How do you feel about him switching up and becoming a Chiefs?

[Akash]

I haven't become a real fan of anything.

[Andrew]

You're a chef. What are you talking about?

[Akash]

And after. So that happened, the cow Cowboys sucked. Then Luca got traded, and then a week later, the Eagles won the Super Bowl. And I was with my wife and her whole family from Philly listening to that fight song for three hours. I truly. I'm like, I'm done with sports. God don't want me to be a sports.

[Charlamagne]

That bit. I don't remember paying that much in no bail, bro. That was like that. That is crazy. I'm about to call my pops. Like, you owe me some money, but.

[Andrew]

Usually you have to Pay. You pay 10%, so maybe you pay 25.

[Charlamagne]

That was whack. Why wouldn't they put that up there? That was wild. See this, the video.

[Akash]

Oh wait, is that your dad in the wear jersey?

[Charlamagne]

No, my dad's actually on the ground and so my, my, my cousin going to start, they all just going to start swinging.

[Akash]

That's know that's fast, Val.

[Charlamagne]

That's right, baby. South Carolina. They, they, they just going to start swinging. You know, first they trying to like, you know, let them up. Let them up. Exactly what's going on. But the fact is that despite very high security, these games, they're dividing men and women into different lines and checking bags as you go in. But somebody managed to get a taser gun. But you know why? You know how he got it in? He just. Because he didn't know he wasn't supposed to have it. You gotta understand, we from the south Vacas, you know, you from the, you from Texas.

[Akash]

I know you're trying to rope me into this and can I be honest? I would normally have your back, but I know you wouldn't have my back. So you sit alone in it. You sit in this corner.

[Charlamagne]

Well, I mean, I don't know what to say. How could I have your back for having a whole jet that runs into a building? I'm talking about fucking tavern. Okash, okay? I'm talking, talking about a simple taste.

[Mark]

How did they get the airplanes?

[Akash]

I don't have your back for the majority of the crime that I was discussing.

[Charlamagne]

But listen, he had it on his side and he just walked in. He didn't know he wasn't supposed to have it. You know, that's how I used to shoplift. I used to always shoplift by not concealing it. I would walk in, yeah. Pick up what I wanted and just walk out.

[Akash]

That's. Honestly. I've done that. It's a good move. I've eaten, I've eaten food in front of the camera cashier and I've been so casual about it. They just don't.

[Charlamagne]

No, it's. I'm saying you only look like you're stealing or doing something wrong when you actually look like you're stealing or doing something wrong when you act like it. He, he didn't, he had no idea he wasn't supposed to have it. He walked right in with it and they, they just let him in. Thank God he had it.

[Mark]

You know, who knows what would have happened?

[Charlamagne]

Depends. I don't know what the true story is. He, he definitely got jumped, but I, He, I don't know if it was before or after.

[Akash]

Here's what I would say to that Marine though. You you fought for the right for somebody to sit during this anthem. That's the freedom you fought for. O, you didn't stand. That bothers me because I'm a Marine. I get it. But you also fought for his right to sit.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah.

[Akash]

That's what makes this country great.

[Charlamagne]

Great point. And I want to talk about this, right? Y' all saw Trump sign the executive order. That's some serious shit. If you burn the flag, you get a year in jail. Now, I don't agree with that. I believe in freedom of speech. But I do find it ironic that you would burn an American free and then point to the Constitution as the reason you can burn the American flag. Why? Because the American flag represents a symbol of freedom. Right. And it represents all of the things that are in the Constitution that you should actually uphold. Right. Which is like freedom of speech. So if you're burning the American flag, you're essentially saying, I don't fuck with America. So if you don't fuck with America, you shouldn't fuck with the Constitution or the democracy that comes with it.

[Andrew]

I think the message he's saying is, hey, you're not following the Constitution. And this is my protest against the.

[Charlamagne]

You don't burn the symbol of freedom. If anything, you make that motherfucker uphold what this flag stands for.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it would be a stronger message if he burned the MAGA hat or something like that.

[Charlamagne]

Bong. But there you go.

[Mark]

That's not illegal.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, but no, I was right. Burn the MAGA hat. Like, you don't burn a symbol of America.

[Guest 1]

What if you're against in a different situation, against a war or something? I think that was where it originally went.

[Charlamagne]

You protest a war.

[Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne]

It just seems weird to be in a America and be benefiting from things like the Constitution and using the Constitution in American democracy to be able to burn the flag. You can't even do that in other countries.

[Akash]

No, it's amazing. But that's what I know. No, it's not. I don't agree with it. But you let them do it, and that's what makes America great.

[Mark]

Yeah, but could you say the same with, like, freedom of speech? If you say, you know, I hate the Constitution, it sucks, and I hate the government, yada, yada. The Constitution protects your right to say that.

[Akash]

So that is the beauty of America. That is the beauty of the Constitution. You gotta let these guys burn the flags. If you make it illegal, you're pussy as fuck.

[Charlamagne]

But what Mark said is also a huge contradiction, because if you believe in freedom of speech, how could you hate the Constitution? Right. I'm sure if you believe in your. I'm saying, if you believe in your right to bear arms, how could you hate the Constitution? You have to point to the actual law in the Constitution that you hate and just say you hate that. You know what I mean? Like, you don't just burn the whole thing. It's like burning a bridge. You don't burn a bridge unless you don't want to cross that bridge.

[Akash]

Listen, I also wish flag burners had a little more. More nuance.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah. That's all I'm saying. Make it make sense is what I'm saying.

[Akash]

I agree.

[Charlamagne]

It doesn't really make sense.

[Akash]

I agree. But that executive order is pussy as fuck.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Akash]

And if you're going to talk about free speech, defend it on both sides.

[Andrew]

And a veteran burned the flag right in front of the White House and they arrested him.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, the executive order. The executive order is unconstitutional as fuck.

[Guest 1]

Also, he didn't get arrested because he burnt that flag. He got arrested because he's in a national park and burnt a flag. You can't start fires in parks.

[Akash]

Ah, they got them out of technicality.

[Guest 1]

Most people that are arrested for burning flags do get arrested on technicalities because burning flags.

[Akash]

The side of your hair is looking crazy right now. Miles, what's going on?

[Charlamagne]

All right.

[Guest 1]

Bad, regardless.

[Charlamagne]

So let me ask you a question, Miles. When it comes to the Constitution, which trumps what? Does Trump's executive order trump the Constitution or does the Constitution trump the executive order?

[Guest 1]

Constitution always trumps. I'm sorry, legal president will trump his.

[Akash]

Now, the Supreme Court could apparently. Larry, there's some old Supreme Court ruling that says flag burning is legal. This Supreme Court could do their stupid thing and make it somehow again.

[Guest 1]

They could make it illegal, but I think it would. Yeah, they could. Technically, yes.

[Akash]

But anybody supporting that executive order and talking about free speech is, as the executive order, constitutional.

[Guest 1]

The executive order just to. Didn't actually say, like, you go to jail for a year, it's you're arrestable. It's that the DOJ underpin bond should look into flag burnings as a incitement of rioting. And it's basically like a small workaround to try to get people arrested for it or take their visas away if they're inciting a riot.

[Akash]

I mean, it's much more flag. When you hear on a visa, it's pretty crazy. You should have the right to do it, but it's crazy. It's crazy shit to do.

[Charlamagne]

Like, if you do that with this administration. You are dying to go to Alligator.

[Akash]

You're coming to my house and eating. Salting the food.

[Charlamagne]

You are.

[Andrew]

You gotta burn the flag from the place you came from and be like, yo, I'm so American, Let me stay there.

[Charlamagne]

I think I like what you said. Burning the maga paraphernalia is more powerful to me. Yeah, because that's what you're actually against. You're against that this administration because they're doing unconstitutional things like signing executive orders that, you know, takes away your right to burn a flag, which is free, which is under the free speech. It's crazy.

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[Akash]

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[Akash]

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[Charlamagne]

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You got to have your cake and eat it, too.

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[Charlamagne]

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[Akash]

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[Akash]

Oh, yo, can we talk about this? Gavin Newsome. I don't know if I like his politics. I heard that he kept the vineyard open during COVID Blah, blah, blah. What he's doing vibes wise is incredible.

[Charlamagne]

Gavin Newsome has had some of the biggest, best media strategies. I thought what he did was brilliant when he launched the podcast with Marshawn lynch and the agent Doug called politicking. I thought that was great because Marshawn kept his boots on the ground. And so Gavin was able to explain politics in a very digestible way. And he was being honest for the most part about, you know, the mistakes that the party was making. He was a lot more honest after they lost, but he was still kind of being honest. And Marshawn was trying to tell him. Him like, yo, everywhere I go, man, people are really trumped out. Like, you know what I mean? So. And Gavin couldn't understand it, but I think he understands now. I didn't like his second part he did when he was trying to, you know, extend olive branches to the right. I think that you should talk to people that you disagree with, but he kind of was just like. Like sucking their dick a little bit. Like, it wasn't no real push back.

[Andrew]

Yeah. It seems like he didn't want confrontation.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Mark]

He said for a presidential run.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah. But Akash's point, I don't know how his politics in California are going to translate to a national level. I think that once you start digging in his record and start seeing some of the things like, oh, Y' all spent $24 billion on homelessness, but homelessness got worse. You know, when you start looking at, you know, things like the wildfires, when you start thinking about crime, like, there's a lot of things underneath the hood.

[Andrew]

Is that really a thing, though? Like, look at Trump's past. Like, he probably is the worst.

[Charlamagne]

He gotta stop. Trump is. Yo, listen, man, I know y' all don't to hear this. Trump is the. One of the best to ever do it politically, bro. Like, like you can. Nobody's going to be able to do what Trump does.

[Akash]

There will be chapters in history books dedicated.

[Charlamagne]

Yes, man.

[Andrew]

But if Dems is smart, they'll take a play out of his.

[Akash]

That's why I think he's doing.

[Andrew]

Stop caring about what people bring up of the past and just bulldozing.

[Charlamagne]

They haven't gotten there yet. You know, I do like this strategy that Gavin's doing. You know, it's called the mirror effect. You read the. Y' all who. Y' all read the 48 laws of power, right? Law 44 is the mirror effect. I have not read it. Disarm and infuriate your opponent by mirroring, doing everything they do, saying everything they say. So it makes the hypocrisy on the right look ridiculous because now all of a sudden, they hate what Gavin's doing. He's literally Mimicking your guy. I love that. But you know what I think would have been even more powerful if all of the governors would have got together and said, this is how we're going to combat Trump.

[Akash]

But they don't want to combat Trump. They want to win.

[Charlamagne]

They want to. And they're competing against each other now.

[Akash]

They want anything.

[Charlamagne]

Exactly. So Gavin's got a great strategy. Strategy. But all of them should have been on this type of timing.

[Akash]

You know, the smartest thing I think he's doing is when, like, Ted Cruz or something will criticize crime in California. He'll have some statistic about how California's murder rate is 10 times, like, lower than Texas or whatever. He'll, like, pick perfect examples.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, but that's reading.

[Andrew]

Yeah, exactly.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah. We not. No, I mean, I like to read. You like to read the most. They not reading all they want to read. This works.

[Mark]

My. My issue with this is that, like, I like the pod that he's talking to people. This, to me, just feels like it's, again, this fixation on Trump as a cultural moment, trying to jump onto his wave. And I'm like, we just want to get money out of politics. Let's get health care going. Let's try to stop funding foreign wars. Can we just put policy forward instead of trying to, like, keep on doing something?

[Akash]

Can I push back?

[Andrew]

Not sexy.

[Akash]

This is. And I think it's extremely sexy. This is funny. And funny wins. That's what Trump had right from the jump. Funny wins. This is funny.

[Mark]

But it's still funny attached to Trump. Trump is funny in his own right.

[Akash]

Yeah. But Trump out of here, he's apparently dying, even though I don't think he ever.

[Mark]

That's my point. So, like, why are we doing this?

[Charlamagne]

Like, I think Mark is right, because what Democrats haven't done is still showed us what is their identity. What do you believe in? What is your policies? How are you going to make my life better? There's still Trump bad. Trump bad. Trump bad. We know that already. What are you going to do to make my life better, though?

[Akash]

I think this is the first step, and normally they do it very poorly. But this is funny enough and making fun of him enough that I think it could work and then he could do the policy shit after. Because Republicans have no identity. Republicans policy, Republicans identity is whoever's. And this is effective. Honestly, it's MAGA now, because maga's winning, and then when the next guy wins, we're with them. Let's just sneak in our shit very effectively. And get done what we need to get done. And so Democrats know neither side has.

[Charlamagne]

An idea, but they're not. You're not moving away from MAGA anytime soon. That's why the Epstein file thing would have been so good because. Because now you got a chance to take MAGA out and maybe bring it back to, you know, traditional conservatism, which people don't even believe exists anymore, and maybe it doesn't, I don't know. But something that's a lot less maga.

[Akash]

What is traditional conservatism?

[Charlamagne]

It used to be like a conservatism depends on Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan? Yeah. George Bush like it used to be.

[Akash]

But what does that mean?

[Mark]

Reaganomics.

[Charlamagne]

I want you to have your. I want you to have your guns. We don't believe in a lot of regulation, you know, less tax, taxes.

[Mark]

Like, the worst thing the government could ever say is we're here to help. Like, that to me, like, kind of summarizes, like the 80s style, like, Republican.

[Akash]

I agree with that, actually.

[Andrew]

But I want to put more.

[Charlamagne]

We want to give you more so you don't need us.

[Andrew]

But I feel MAG is on that wave now. They just like, hey, we want all that, but we also want anybody against us, fuck them. It's like, I want to hurt people against us. And it's also government, stay out of my shit. Cut my taxes.

[Mark]

They haven't moved away from small government at all. Like, they've expanded.

[Charlamagne]

Exactly.

[Akash]

I'm kind of like that, too. I, I, I see where they're coming from. I' saying it's right, but I get it emotionally.

[Mark]

But again, this is my issue with the Gavin thing is like, again, it's just everything is Trump. Like, I'm not voting for Trump. I'm also going to not. I'm not going to vote for not Trump. Like, I want to vote for a candidate that's going to, like, pull money out, actually give me, like, a foreign policy thing, not just be frozen on, like, the Middle east shit.

[Akash]

I don't think. I think he'll get there. And I'm not saying I think he'd be good, but I think he'll get there.

[Charlamagne]

I think he's working in California. I heard him.

[Andrew]

But then we have Mandani here in New York, and then he's putting policy forward, so.

[Akash]

And the guy was weaker than me.

[Andrew]

It doesn't matter how strong he is physically. But I'm just saying he's putting policies.

[Akash]

My man can't bench 135. I don't even know if you could bench, bench 135. I get up, I get up once. Hey, look, I don't need this much help.

[Charlamagne]

Hold on, hold on. He can't bench.

[Akash]

Look at this, Eric.

[Charlamagne]

Adam got help though. A lot of help.

[Andrew]

No, that's an assist.

[Akash]

Like, I mean that's a heavy. That's not even. Bro, that's not even a spot. My man got two hands on the ball bar pulling up deadlift form.

[Charlamagne]

I don't see Merrick Adams doing much better, bro. 64 versus 3.

[Akash]

Look at the speed of Eric Adams. It's not even a question. And look at Mamdani.

[Andrew]

Why does this matter?

[Mark]

This is exactly my point. Zoron doesn't really talk about Trump unless Trump is shooting at him. He's putting forward policy that is actually resonating with people and now he's.

[Akash]

Why would he get on the bench? Yo, you know you're not strong.

[Charlamagne]

You know you're not strong.

[Akash]

You know you're not strong.

[Charlamagne]

This is.

[Akash]

I'm not sitting on that bench. I'll tell you right now.

[Charlamagne]

This is pandering. And he's pandering to the Rough Riders. I bet you Ian Yonkers. Is he and Yonka doing this, like where the is he at doing this shit?

[Mark]

He's pandering, bro. I feel like he's getting punked a little bit.

[Charlamagne]

This is pandering. Like, this is. I don't know who he's paying. I don't know where he's at doing this. But to Akash's point, if you know you can't fucking bench press 135 while you out there capable of.

[Akash]

Before you say in a suit, they.

[Mark]

Made doing this in a suit, they made Bieber do push ups in the hood. Do you remember that?

[Akash]

But Bieber got it. Bieber, nice.

[Mark]

But it felt like they were just.

[Charlamagne]

Punking him into doing it.

[Andrew]

You know, the video would have been if he would have said like, nah, guys, I'm good. Oh, Mandari's so weak he's afraid to.

[Charlamagne]

Get on a bunch.

[Andrew]

It would have been the same. They would have said something about say.

[Akash]

That and then keep lifting, get on the creatine, get on the peptides and come back in a month and knock that out.

[Charlamagne]

The whole.

[Andrew]

I wish we had a bench here right now, cuz I don't know how.

[Akash]

I wouldn't get on the bench.

[Charlamagne]

That's my point.

[Akash]

You can't talk if you can't do it either. That's my point. Why you getting on the bench? That's my talk pressured. Man, sit your weak ass out on this one.

[Charlamagne]

Like I would shaking hands and kissing. But you, you can't be the mayor if you, if you fold the peer pressure like this.

[Akash]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne]

This is folding the societal pressure. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Now he's your fiance. Then what? Now what? Now what? Alex? I'm gonna tell you what though.

[Andrew]

He got engaged to the bar, but he ain't fully commit.

[Charlamagne]

I tell you what, though. I think Mondani is going to win.

[Akash]

And you have a bet on this. Thousand dollar bet.

[Charlamagne]

I think he's gonna win. I think, I think I'm gonna lose. And I think they want him to win.

[Akash]

Who?

[Charlamagne]

Oh, Republicans are gonna. Yeah, Donald Trump is going.

[Akash]

He's going to declare every time somebody.

[Charlamagne]

Says that National Guard is in New York immediately. Now all of a sudden, New York is the worst cr. Oh, look what's happening in New York.

[Andrew]

Doing that now.

[Charlamagne]

But once he wins, it's going to be even worse. Yeah.

[Mark]

Like, it's gonna help Republicans a lot.

[Charlamagne]

He really don't have no competition. Like.

[Andrew]

But why are the Dems against Mandani?

[Charlamagne]

Oh, because he's probably split.

[Andrew]

Because he's the only person putting policy. People like it and we came out to vote for him, so why would they.

[Charlamagne]

Because of all his, all his anti Israel stances. It's not. That's literally what it is.

[Akash]

He's not saying what's right or wrong. He's saying, why traditional Democrats, that's why they're against him. It's anti traditional Democrats are apacked up. That's how they lie. They're for sale.

[Mark]

She also stands against the donor class that the neo libs are completely getting funded by. So it's antithetical to their entire policy standpoint, which is focusing on all these social issues while they just keep all the rest of the shit going, keep getting paid.

[Akash]

Propaganda crazy. And I'm like, oh, if Mamdani wins, he's trying to pass legislation to shut down synagogues or some like that. It's like, what are you even talking about?

[Charlamagne]

The reason people like Mandani is one of the reasons that the Democrats are against Mandani. When they asked him during that debate, you know, you know, are you going to. What country are you going to visit? You gonna visit Israel? He's like, no, I'm focused on New York. They want to hear that shit. Even though that was their. That's actually the correct answer.

[Mark]

There's also some of them that might know this is going to help MAGA and, like, help Republicans a lot.

[Charlamagne]

You think so?

[Mark]

I, like, I wonder if they know it. And they're like, ah, this is like.

[Akash]

We're all just assuming. This is weird. Are we just assuming things get worse if he gets elected?

[Charlamagne]

No, no.

[Mark]

Trump is going to make it worse.

[Charlamagne]

I think Trump is going to make it worse. Worse. Or like, he'll Trump, it'll be utilized. If y' all can't see that play coming, I don't know what to tell you.

[Akash]

Tell me what he's gonna do.

[Charlamagne]

You said National National Guard immediately. He's. He's gonna make it seem like New York is the worst crime capital in America. Just to put the National Guard here's.

[Akash]

Whole vibe is you. You bring a national vibe and we don't give a.

[Andrew]

New York ain't gonna fuck you.

[Charlamagne]

Y' all ain't gonna do all right. Y' all ain't gonna do against the national for that. Y' all ain't gonna do before it's.

[Akash]

Like, okay, send him in. So what? Who cares?

[Charlamagne]

Y' all ain't gonna do love to scream. They where they from, like it's a superpower. Like it can help them fight. I'm from Brooklyn.

[Andrew]

You know how many people going to be.

[Charlamagne]

I'm from New York. That's all you going to say. It's going to be a lot of.

[Andrew]

Sucking dick going on.

[Charlamagne]

That's all you walk by the National Guard saying, suck my dick. Yeah, yeah, get in line, buddy.

[Andrew]

But then, all right, what does it do?

[Akash]

We have to. As people who live in New York. I'm not even a New Yorker. What do I have to do if the National Guard is here? How does that change my life day to day? They're just on the corner.

[Charlamagne]

Ask Chris.

[Akash]

I don't know, Chris, how does that change my life? Because. Okay, you said.

[Chris]

I mean, I feel like since 9 11, there have been guys in fatigues with automatic weapons, and I don't see that enough.

[Akash]

I feel comforted by that. When you see the subway station, the motherfuckers got the. You're like, nothing is popping up.

[Charlamagne]

Okay, well, listen, I don't know what Trump is going to do, but when Mandani gets in office, Trump is going to make Mandani's life a living hell in.

[Guest 1]

Yeah, he's just going to go through other politicians. Like, the MTA is half by the state and he's going to go to the state and be like, shut anything down. He's trying to do. Let's stop his bus way. Like, he's just going to try to impede Smart. I like Mumbai.

[Charlamagne]

I love.

[Andrew]

So you're saying we should just bend over and just.

[Charlamagne]

No, no, no.

[Andrew]

I'm a fan.

[Charlamagne]

But then.

[Akash]

But then we just. Then let us do this. Trump don't let us do that, and everything is going to be the exact same. So worst case scenario, things are the exact same. And then he gets to blame Trump and the New Yorkers who already don't like him, but can just be like, that's a national story. You know, Trump is stopping X, Y and Z from making a great city better. That's on public.

[Guest 1]

Mind you, I'm on the side of boom. Daniel.

[Akash]

No, no, I'm saying what I think. Easy play is for the Mamdani camp and Democrats if he wins and Trump tries that shit.

[Charlamagne]

But nobody's going to want to hear that. They want the results that you said you was going to deliver. Yeah, they don't want to hear that such and such might be doing them.

[Chris]

A favor in the long run.

[Andrew]

That's what I'm saying.

[Charlamagne]

What do you mean?

[Chris]

Because in reality, most of the initiatives Mandami wants to take on, probably he couldn't get through anyway. Well, now he has a foil on why he couldn't get through.

[Akash]

Yeah. It is crazy watching y' all try to pronounce Mamdani. It's really, like, just fucking insane. What's the Madani Mamdani? It's just Mumdani, Mandani and Madmani or whatever just happened. Try and mum.

[Mark]

Donnie, try and get the spirit.

[Charlamagne]

I'm not angry.

[Akash]

I just need to say it. I really just need to say it.

[Charlamagne]

That's a good idea, Chris. That is. I like that. That is true. I can see that.

[Akash]

That's a much smarter version.

[Andrew]

Is also a great communicator and he's great on social media, so he's going to be able to get that message across.

[Charlamagne]

I'm gonna be honest with you. Mandani's messaging to me is like the clips rollout fire. But why is it fire? Why was the clips roll out fire?

[Akash]

Because they generated publicity in a great way. The songs that they release were perfect. The podcast runs with the clips of taking the cps, taking shots at other rappers generated publicity. They took an album that people would have been moderately excited about, like hardcore hip hop fans, and got them incredibly excited and energized and then got a.

[Andrew]

Lot of casual living with the great album.

[Charlamagne]

I agree. But, you know, we used to call that 10 years ago just a rollout. That's what you used to do. You go to every radio station, go to every podcast. You go sit down at every magazine. You put out great singles to get everybody excited. Then you come out and sell some records. Mandani is literally just talking to people and telling them exactly what it is they need to hear and what it is they want. Simple. This city's too fucking expensive, man. We need to make this city more affordable.

[Akash]

We've done it since.

[Andrew]

That's what I'm saying.

[Akash]

Who was the last person to do it?

[Charlamagne]

Well, Bernie.

[Akash]

Bernie was great.

[Charlamagne]

Bernie.

[Akash]

Bernie was.

[Charlamagne]

Bernie. Bernie. Bernie.

[Akash]

Bernie.

[Charlamagne]

I'm lying. Trump.

[Akash]

Exactly.

[Charlamagne]

It was Trump, and Trump said it. I won this election off one word. Groceries. You know what I mean? Like, he literally speak to people's everyday issues. We know what's going on in this country, bro. People want more money. People want to feel safe. That's it. Don't complicate it. Keep it simple. That's what Mandani's doing.

[Akash]

Mandani's better at social media than Bernie was. Bernie was too old to really use. Utilize it. He didn't. He wasn't like that. And like you just said, he's the best since Trump.

[Charlamagne]

I gotta follow him. And none of his comes across my. My feed like that.

[Andrew]

Oh, he's all over my feet.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Andrew]

But he's great with it. And now you see every politician making the same type of videos as I've.

[Akash]

Been trying to get him to talk to me for months.

[Charlamagne]

He keeps saying, no, you don't come on flagrant.

[Akash]

He won't come on flagrant.

[Andrew]

He's coming off like he's coming on.

[Akash]

Yeah, he ain't come here ass time ago. Unread response. What's up, Zorin? What happened to brown Unity?

[Charlamagne]

Dude, He's.

[Guest 1]

He's still.

[Andrew]

Because you can lift more than him.

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[Charlamagne]

Yeah. Why is he coming on flagrant? He got to come before the election. Yeah, I think he is.

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[Mark]

Now, federally, could Trump withhold money from the city to affect how the city operates?

[Guest 1]

I mean, federally, probably not, but he can try to influence the state. There is a lot of federal grants that do come to the city through, like, you know, different mega projects here. I don't know if he can pull it all back or it's already been approved and he has no ability, but he, I imagine, will attempt to, like, hinder the MTA and some other.

[Mark]

That's my biggest concern. If he gets in is not what he does, but it's what Trump does in reaction to it and then pulls funding, and then, like, the MTA legit doesn't work.

[Charlamagne]

I think they want him to win. I think they want him to win to scare the shit out of the rest of America. They're gonna. To your point, Miles and Chris's point, or whoever said it, they're gonna stop all of this funding just to make New York look terrible. All of a sudden, you're gonna hear about all of these crime spikes in New York, and they're gonna send the National Guard and they're go. Is what your country would look like under a socialist. Don't vote for people that have the same message.

[Andrew]

If he cuts any funding, the people are gonna know, hey, this is Trump cutting the funding. And now we have an.

[Charlamagne]

Democrats aren't smart enough to let people know it's Trump.

[Andrew]

That's the thing.

[Akash]

He's smarter than all of them.

[Andrew]

He is great at getting his messaging across.

[Charlamagne]

I mean, all you gotta do is.

[Andrew]

Say it technically, even the way he's getting it across. Like, he has boots on the ground. He has people knocking on doors. Like he has a lot of people.

[Charlamagne]

You know why? Because he used to be a rapper. Yeah, that's true. Rappers are great messages. He. He used to be a rapper. I believe that he knows how to promote himself.

[Akash]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But I think this election's gonna be a lot closer than people are saying.

[Andrew]

I watched New York.

[Akash]

I bet he. My bet was that he would not win and they would not allow him to win. And that's why I bet Alex. But it's looking very not good for me.

[Guest 1]

Who do you think is going to be against him? For second or for.

[Chris]

Well, I think a lot of Jewish voters are going to go with either Cuomo or Adams, and I think a lot of black voters are going to go With Adams.

[Andrew]

But that happens in the primary. And look at the results.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Like, not as a primary.

[Chris]

I don't know how it could come down to whether it rains that day.

[Akash]

Or it's cold, I think.

[Mark]

But they're going to split the vote, I think.

[Charlamagne]

I think.

[Chris]

I just can't believe Cuomo is not going to drop out.

[Mark]

If they drop out, it'll change everything. But I think with both of them in, I just think it's going to split.

[Akash]

So Cuomo's not, I think, going to. I think Cuomo won't drop out to hurt Momdani. I think the only reason Cuomo's staying in is so Mumdani doesn't win.

[Andrew]

No. If Cuomo doesn't drop, he hurts Adams.

[Chris]

Adams, yeah.

[Charlamagne]

Hell, yeah.

[Andrew]

They split the boat. They're getting the same people.

[Guest 1]

Silwa also hurts a little bit.

[Akash]

Who's Silwa? That sounds like a young.

[Guest 1]

He's this Republican running.

[Charlamagne]

He's the guardian angel. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I think Mondani wins. I don't think it's like. I do think it's gonna be close. I don't think it's gonna be like what everybody thinks.

[Andrew]

I think it's gonna be a landslide. Just. Just like the primary.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah. The algorithm got you gassed a little bit, bro.

[Andrew]

I mean. No, I'm talking about actual numbers. The primary is a landslide, but he.

[Charlamagne]

Didn'T have a lot of black voters during the primaries. Indian showed up for him. Crazy. Yeah, bro.

[Akash]

That's what we do.

[Mark]

She was a must, you know what I mean?

[Charlamagne]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I met.

[Akash]

Landslide.

[Charlamagne]

That was great. So good, so good, so good, so good.

[Guest 1]

They also want the trains.

[Andrew]

They like trains, bro.

[Mark]

They love trains.

[Guest 1]

He's the train, man.

[Andrew]

All right, all right. Gosh. What we got next?

[Mark]

Oh, man.

[Akash]

What's up, Drake? No, the Will Smith AI video. Oh, buddy.

[Andrew]

Did you see.

[Akash]

Did you see these Will Smith concert videos?

[Charlamagne]

No.

[Akash]

So Will Smith was trying to put out a video to promote, like, how great his show is. And the video is clearly AI generated fans.

[Charlamagne]

He's on tour.

[Akash]

I guess it worked. Yeah.

[Charlamagne]

I did not know.

[Akash]

Been trying to protect 10. He's still popping.

[Charlamagne]

Damn.

[Akash]

This is the saddest fall off in the history of.

[Charlamagne]

I don't think it's a fall off. I just think that we don't want to hear Will Smith's music.

[Andrew]

That's a fault. No, we used to want to hear.

[Charlamagne]

No, we didn't, like, stop he ain't wanted to hear Will music in 30 years. Come on, guy.

[Guest 1]

You want him to act in movies?

[Charlamagne]

That's right.

[Akash]

But no, there was a time. But that's why. Why are you rapping again? Also, let's just watch this video and let's just see how embarrassing this is.

[Charlamagne]

Okay?

[Akash]

It's truly. It's brutal, dude. Like the signs that they have, the people go, yeah, go ahead, just look at the signs.

[Mark]

This looks legit.

[Akash]

This is not the AI generated one, is it? This is a real video.

[Mark]

Just wait, just wait.

[Charlamagne]

No.

[Mark]

This might just be it, cuz this looks good.

[Akash]

Okay, this. Yeah, no, the rap is click through a little bit. I don't think this is the AI Generator.

[Charlamagne]

He's rapping about overcoming struggles. Akash, what struggles?

[Akash]

You can't on that white, his son's friends.

[Charlamagne]

That's like somebody giving you a Jesus pamphlet in the street. You don't throw it away. This is AI Take.

[Akash]

Yeah, this is AI Take us Back to Bel Air. Someone has a sign about how Will Smith helped him.

[Charlamagne]

Oh yeah.

[Akash]

You can make it help me survive cancer. Thanks. I don't even know that song.

[Mark]

Can you go to some of the stills and pop. Pause the screen.

[Charlamagne]

Joey, kill the music. Why do y' all think this is AI?

[Mark]

Because if you.

[Akash]

Because it's 1000% AI.

[Mark]

Go to the.

[Akash]

Why do you think it's not AI?

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, you gave me the sitcom dad disgusted look like you just caught me with a cigarette.

[Mark]

Look at the hands here.

[Charlamagne]

You can make it help me survive. You can make it help me. Oh, okay. You can make it help me survive. You can make it help me survive cancer. Thanks, Will.

[Andrew]

And then look at where his finger is. You see the distortion right there?

[Akash]

And then the girl's hand he's holding, it's. Yeah.

[Charlamagne]

Why would he do this?

[Andrew]

We been.

[Charlamagne]

So it's the real pictures and the fake pictures.

[Akash]

No, I think these are all fake pictures right here.

[Charlamagne]

That's AI too.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne]

And the other one. Yeah.

[Akash]

It's already gotten to the point where it's really tough to tell, to be honest with you. Like, I see videos where the comments have no idea. It's AI. I. I think Matt Barnes posted an AI Gavin Newsom video. I'm fairly certain it was AI, but no comment said that. So either I'm wrong or. Or everybody's fooled.

[Charlamagne]

What's the point of Will doing this?

[Akash]

To make it seem like he hasn't fallen off dramatically.

[Charlamagne]

I don't think Will Smith is. I don't think. I think when You're Will Smith. You don't ever fall off.

[Mark]

I think it's his team.

[Akash]

He. I think he's been falling off.

[Charlamagne]

No, I don't think he's too much of an icon. I don't think you fall off when you're Will Smith. I think that there comes a period where you just. Not that white hot, red hot person no more, but you're still Will Smith.

[Akash]

A lot of times I'll just defer to you because you're smarter than me, but this is. You're just so wr. I don't even know what to tell you.

[Charlamagne]

Will Smith walks down the street right now, caught. You're asking for a picture.

[Akash]

I'm not asking for a picture.

[Charlamagne]

You mean because you're a promotion. But people would say, hey, that's Will Smith.

[Akash]

Mainly because I'm a comedian and he's. He got. The guy got slapped. A guy who made a joke about him that was mildly, mildly disrespectful. I divorced.

[Charlamagne]

I got nothing but respectful of Chris Rock. But even that adds to the legendary resume.

[Akash]

If. If his wife actually got disrespected and if we didn't watch him on a conversation talking about how she. Her son's friend who had a drug.

[Charlamagne]

Was acting like legendary. Yo, the meme that came out of that with Will with the red eyes sitting there, like legendary.

[Akash]

That's not good, though.

[Charlamagne]

You never sat down with your wife and had your wife have that conversation.

[Akash]

Correct. I don't think I'm a legend if that's what being a legend is. I'm not a.

[Charlamagne]

He's describing bad marriage for life. That is a legendary. Sit down. Y' all are so legendary. Red table talk. That red table talk was so legendary there. They don't even do it no more.

[Mark]

They couldn't. They couldn't top it.

[Akash]

They thought about that line before the thing and they were like, we got it bad. Marriage for Life.

[Charlamagne]

Came out with bestselling New York Times sellers books after that.

[Akash]

That's. That was the beginning of the fall off. I think that was before this even came out. This is before the slap when he said he would have sex and then throw up. You remember that? Yeah, he said he would have sex and then throw up.

[Andrew]

I'm still getting a picture with Smith right now. He's still. He's a legend.

[Charlamagne]

Y' all talk about Wolf slapping Chris. Okay, yeah, that was up. But what else happened that night?

[Mark]

He wanna.

[Charlamagne]

What? Oscar. Oscar.

[Akash]

He won an Oscar.

[Charlamagne]

Actor. Yeah, like the same night. They didn't. He. He Assaulted somebody. They didn't kick him out the building.

[Mark]

They sat him back down.

[Charlamagne]

Sit you back down. You got a moment. Like, come on, man. Will is legend, y'. All. Will's a legend. Will's a legend, bro. He's a legend. He's a legend. He's, he's had about five or six different careers. He's an icon. Like, there's no such thing as falling off on your Will Smith. Now. There might be things you shouldn't be doing anymore, like rapping.

[Mark]

Like rapping.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah. You know what I mean? But he's not, he didn't have right.

[Akash]

Off into the sunset. He should have done that. If he rode off into the sunset five years ago. Un. Fucking believable. Why is he trying to do this thing where he's clinging on to relevance?

[Andrew]

I think his team around him is like kind of how Biden's people was around him.

[Charlamagne]

How can Will Smith not be relevant?

[Akash]

Do you mean his wife?

[Andrew]

No, his team. Like his video. But then why do all that stuff?

[Akash]

My videographer decides what I'm going to work. No, you're my fucking videographer.

[Charlamagne]

Go home.

[Andrew]

Yeah, but he has to stay high.

[Charlamagne]

How can Smith not be relevant? It's Will Smith. Will Smith. There's not too many people in the world who get to the levels of famous that Will Smith has gotten.

[Akash]

I understand what you're saying, but if.

[Mark]

We'Re talking about Gen Z, we're talking about 18 year olds and they're like, oh, who named your favorite actor?

[Akash]

You can have, you can be a legend and not be relevant. As a matter of fact, that's most legends.

[Charlamagne]

Gen Z is not the barometer for who's a legend.

[Akash]

No, we didn't say he wasn't a legend. Relevance is about here and now. And most legends like Denzel's not as relevant now as he was in the 90s, but he's a legend. Would you rather and Denzel doesn't seem to chase the relevance.

[Charlamagne]

Would you rather have immediate intensity or long term consistency?

[Akash]

I agree with you. That's not the point. The point is chase. You can be a legend and still chase relevance. And a way that is sad because again, being a legend means your art is incredible.

[Charlamagne]

But see, actually changing your argument, if you're saying he's chasing a, a relevance and it's making him look irrelevant, I, I, that's a different conversation.

[Akash]

It's making him look embarrassing.

[Charlamagne]

Okay, all right. That's a different conversation.

[Chris]

Okay, so who's a relevant legend right now? Like who's someone who's playing it the right way.

[Mark]

A relevant legend.

[Akash]

I think Denzel's doing great. He does projects he wants to do. He talks his the way he wants to and then he gets out and he goes on.

[Charlamagne]

He wants to do. We don't have to rap.

[Akash]

Really don't want to do this. I want to sit down at a red table and talk to his wife about the kid. She.

[Charlamagne]

He knew the meme we was going to get.

[Akash]

He knew the meme.

[Charlamagne]

He knew the meme was. He doesn't have to do this. Will is cake the up, bro. Like, we don't have to rap.

[Andrew]

I'm sure he wants to be Mr. 4th of July again if his. If his movies would still crack the way that they used to be.

[Akash]

There's a clip he used to. I wish I had sent it to the group of him on one of these actors roundtables. And he goes, I got cheated on in high school and I realized the way I would never. I decided the way I would never get cheated on again is by being the biggest movie star in the world.

[Charlamagne]

That's right.

[Akash]

And then ever I created this idea that as long as I was the most relevant person in the world, I was lovable. He hasn't fully shaken that, I don't think. Also he got cheated on again.

[Charlamagne]

So what's his last new problem?

[Akash]

I think.

[Charlamagne]

What's his last movie? It was Bad Boys, right? Was Bad Boys his last movie?

[Akash]

You don't. You don't know. Don't that say something?

[Charlamagne]

No, I think it is. I think it was Bad Boys and a couple years ago, and that did pretty good. And this one after the Slap.

[Guest 1]

Tennis one. What about the tennis one?

[Charlamagne]

He won an Oscar. He won an Oscar for that.

[Guest 1]

Wasn't that after Bad Boy?

[Charlamagne]

The Bad Boy movie was after the Slap, right? Yep.

[Chris]

Yeah, it was Bad Boys.

[Charlamagne]

She went number one. That grossed like a couple hundred million dollars at the box office.

[Akash]

What? It grossed a couple hundred million at the box office?

[Charlamagne]

Yes. How much did it do globally?

[Akash]

Watching Joey Google is kind of one hand, right?

[Mark]

Like, how are you doing this with one hand?

[Akash]

Slow to not find Chris.

[Guest 1]

The film grossed 405 million on $100 million.

[Charlamagne]

Damn.

[Akash]

Wow.

[Charlamagne]

After the slap. Yeah.

[Guest 1]

2024.

[Charlamagne]

You fronting on Big Willie, man. Why? I don't know. Will is a legend. I would take.

[Akash]

I Was Legend. That's the name of the sequel to.

[Charlamagne]

The movies I Was Legend. Here's the thing about all of this.

[Akash]

The sequel, he goes, he finds the people and they're all his wife God damn.

[Charlamagne]

God damn.

[Akash]

He's still his wife.

[Charlamagne]

It's still his wife. Yes. God damn him. Salute to Jada. Jada deserves respect. Listen, here's the thing. Will Smith, in order to be Will in all of those other moments.

[Akash]

Hang on. Joke, y'.

[Charlamagne]

All.

[Akash]

That shit bothered me. That shit bothered me. Now we gotta edit it. Cause y' all ain't.

[Charlamagne]

No, no. The same way Will gotta take his licks. You gonna take your licks. We not gonna AI Laugh Tracks. We not go AI Laugh Tracks for that. Okay. All right, listen, Will Smith, in order to be Will, then you gotta to be him now. And I. And in order to be. What?

[Andrew]

No, you don't have to do the things that he's doing right now.

[Charlamagne]

No, no, no, no. I'm saying. Okay, let's. Let's take a step back. If you take a step back and somebody said, okay, you can have a career like this, but they show it to you all the way through. All the way through. From rapping with DJ Jazzy Jeff to the sitcom with Fresh Prince, to all of the number one movies, to the bestselling book, to all to even now to slap the Oscar, you got to take all of that. You got to taking that, bro. As opposed to being whatever red hot relevant screamer there is right now.

[Akash]

Yeah, okay, but that doesn't make. Yeah, of course his career is better than a guy who has 15 minutes of fame, but that doesn't mean what's happening now isn't embarrassing and tarnishing your.

[Charlamagne]

I don't think this is that embarrassing. I've seen more embarrassing things. I thought the slap. The slap was more embarrassing because that was like, damn, he cracked under pressure. That was actually more scary than anything because I'm like, this dude has had the perfect career. You get to the night you're supposed to get. Get crowned, and you snap.

[Akash]

You're acting like this is the only video.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

We have multiple clips that have gone crazy viral from brilliant idiots of you and Andrew mocking his music.

[Charlamagne]

No, I said it was fire.

[Akash]

People thought you were being serious.

[Charlamagne]

It was fire. That was fire, bro. Y' all be. And the other thing that y' all keep forgetting about, about Will, he's got comedic chops, too. How you know he ain't doing this to make us laugh?

[Akash]

Because he's never been that method.

[Guest 1]

I also don't think he did it.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, it's.

[Mark]

His team has no idea this happened.

[Andrew]

That's what I'm saying. He got a team around him like Biden. Biden didn't Even know that he's seen him.

[Akash]

Dude, he's not 80 years old.

[Mark]

It's not on him. He's not going to check every video. Every video he looks at and goes.

[Charlamagne]

Why the do you post?

[Akash]

He sold out France again. You guys are asking, acting like this is the only video that's embarrassing. There is a library of embarrassing Will Smith videos.

[Charlamagne]

It's really not, I think will call embarrassing.

[Andrew]

I'm a Gemini, I'm a Leo, I'm.

[Charlamagne]

A this, I'm a.

[Andrew]

That shit was whack.

[Charlamagne]

I can't rap about my rising signs and my fucking birthday sign. I don't like.

[Akash]

No, you cannot.

[Charlamagne]

No, you cannot. I can't do that.

[Akash]

No, you cannot.

[Charlamagne]

That makes no sense to me. No, you cannot. Why can't I do that?

[Akash]

Hit us with a rap about your rising. What's your rising?

[Charlamagne]

I'm a cancer who also identifies as. I don't fucking know, man. Why'd you give up?

[Akash]

Because it sucked. Because you realize how fucking embarrassing.

[Charlamagne]

No, I don't know my rising sign. I think it's cool you don't know.

[Akash]

Your rising sign because you're a man and you don't know and you shouldn't know. And that's ridiculous if you do know.

[Charlamagne]

I don't know, my friend.

[Akash]

It's embarrassing to know that.

[Charlamagne]

All I know is Will Smith is a legend. I think that's true. We agree with that Legend, icon living. This man made getting jiggy with it absolutely fire.

[Akash]

He should have said stopped 10 years ago.

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Charlamagne]

By the way, I never liked Will Smith the rapper. I was a Fresh Prince. I just want to throw that out there. I was a Fresh Prince guy, okay? I like the Fresh Prince. I didn't. I didn't like. I didn't like Getting jiggy with it. I didn't like. Welcome to Miami. Now, as I'm older, I appreciate these records, cuz they have aged well. But when they first came out, I'm like, what is this? Like, I didn't want to hear that. But Fresh Prince, Nightmare on my street, you know what I mean? I think I can beat Mike Tyson, but even these have aged very well. Yo.

[Akash]

No, I love those songs, the ones.

[Andrew]

That went with the movies. Like the Wild Wild west shit with the movie.

[Akash]

Best part of the movie, Getting jiggy with it. Fire. Men in Black is absolutely.

[Andrew]

Men in Black shit was kind of fire.

[Akash]

I loved Fresh Prince growing up. This is heartbreaking. I used to really look up to this and why he could be president.

[Charlamagne]

And why don't we ever give His Dalai Lama arc credit. I call him the Willy Llama because.

[Akash]

The Dalai Lama never watched his wife get fucked and then talked about it. The Internet.

[Charlamagne]

I. I don't know. I don't know if.

[Akash]

Find that D book about him and his wife somebody else.

[Charlamagne]

I don't think that happened. I don't.

[Akash]

It's called Bad Religion for Life. Find that book.

[Charlamagne]

I don't think that happened. Yo, by the way, shout out to Will Smith. Okay. Here's another thing about that red table.

[Akash]

Talking about Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne]

Here's another thing about that red table talk. Women's empowerment.

[Akash]

Yeah. I'm sexist.

[Charlamagne]

Women's empowerment.

[Akash]

Yuck.

[Mark]

Wait, what's the empowerment?

[Akash]

I married an empowered woman. It's sexist.

[Charlamagne]

We're not together. But you have to think they weren't. The whole point of that red table talk was them explaining. And when you read their book, they weren't together. They were separated.

[Akash]

Then why you said bad marriage for life. We're separated.

[Guest 1]

They're still married.

[Charlamagne]

They're still married. Yeah, they're still married.

[Akash]

Why are you still married?

[Charlamagne]

They're separated.

[Guest 1]

Great points. He's winning right now.

[Charlamagne]

They were separated. It's just like. It's okay. Like she was.

[Akash]

He's making great individual points, but he keeps denying the overall part that he's got and embarrass.

[Charlamagne]

If. If. If August Alina was older. Yes.

[Akash]

And not his son's best friend. And they didn't help him recover from a drug.

[Charlamagne]

Y' all wouldn't look at him.

[Akash]

Yeah. This all makes it worse. Yes.

[Mark]

If it was a random dude.

[Akash]

That's.

[Mark]

Whatever.

[Charlamagne]

If.

[Akash]

If it wasn't her son's good friend who had a drug habit, they helped him get sober, and then she. Him. It would be a very different thing.

[Charlamagne]

I'm with you. But that's still sexist. Okay. Because if it was an older guy sleeping with a younger woman.

[Akash]

Disgusting.

[Charlamagne]

That would be wild.

[Akash]

Way worse.

[Charlamagne]

Oh, I'm with you.

[Mark]

His dog from a drug addiction.

[Akash]

That'd be way worse. I put a.

[Mark]

It would be worse, actually. If a guy did it.

[Akash]

It'd be way worse. Put a bullet in his head. That's a monster. It's a disgusting person.

[Mark]

I don't know.

[Akash]

As a sexist, I feel like that's worse to do because women are inferior. It all adds up. I'm consistent is all I'm saying.

[Charlamagne]

He was with Jada Pinkett Smith. Why are we acting like Jada Pinkett Smith ain't classic?

[Akash]

Jada Pinkett was so hot. Unbelievable.

[Charlamagne]

That's what I'm saying.

[Akash]

Somebody met her recently, said, beautiful. Just still beautiful.

[Charlamagne]

You should give her some props for giving out charity to August. August came up, if you ask me.

[Mark]

But would we say this if Will was cracking a 22 year old? That was the friends.

[Charlamagne]

Disgusting. I think when you that old. Yeah, will almost 60. Come on, man. Look at Jada. Come on, man. Gets a bad rap. Different world.

[Akash]

Jada unbelievable.

[Charlamagne]

Jada gets a bad rap, man.

[Akash]

Jason's lyric. Jada, unbelievable.

[Andrew]

It didn't help when you.

[Charlamagne]

Jada minister Society. Society.

[Akash]

Jada.

[Andrew]

But she kept, like, saying how much she's still in love with Tupac and bringing him back up.

[Charlamagne]

What's wrong with loving your friend? They. They weren't. No. But all we say, X. They never were together.

[Mark]

According to them, that's one of her best friends.

[Charlamagne]

That's what I'm saying.

[Guest 1]

Al, you love Wheezy.

[Andrew]

N. Wee.

[Charlamagne]

Come on. N. Yeah, Mom. Now we talk. Me and Weezy. Have you ever take me.

[Andrew]

And we have never taken a picture like this.

[Charlamagne]

Yes, y' all have done some.

[Andrew]

Those two people are you.

[Charlamagne]

And we said y' all was gonna have a baby if y' all didn't find somebody. Why you going to lie? Why you going to lie? I would never say that you can have a baby. Exactly. I thought you said everything you can.

[Akash]

To not have a baby.

[Charlamagne]

Oh, man. You and we look like a couple right here. Look, there's no.

[Akash]

No physical contact. There's no context.

[Charlamagne]

Nah, bro. Nah, bro.

[Mark]

No, we need better images.

[Charlamagne]

You and Wheezy is a good you, and we not.

[Andrew]

Our arms ain't even touching because you.

[Charlamagne]

Y'. All. Y' all know that Jaden, Will. I mean, J and Pac got that picture out. Y' all didn't want to do it like that. Listen, you don't think that picture of you and Andrew right here, Bones.

[Akash]

No physical contact.

[Charlamagne]

The only reason this doesn't look like y' all are coming. Pull. Is because you look gay.

[Andrew]

Oh, barely touching.

[Charlamagne]

Nah, y' all a couple, bro.

[Akash]

These are different. These are different.

[Charlamagne]

These are different.

[Andrew]

This is French.

[Charlamagne]

Nah, bro.

[Akash]

I take pictures like that with fans. I'm not putting my arm around you. I don't know nothing. Hey, she want to touch me. Hey, I ain't touching you. That's you.

[Charlamagne]

If. If. If I didn't love Wheezy like Anise, I would say, let's do a social experiment. So I wouldn't do it. But that doesn't mean somebody else out there listening to me right now can't.

[Andrew]

No, don't listen to.

[Charlamagne]

Do not take these pictures and post them online and say, do they look like a couple? And see what people say.

[Andrew]

Actually, I stand by that. And it's going to be that one.

[Charlamagne]

And the other one from the cookout and that. Not the gay one. That looks crazy. You actually. She looks like.

[Akash]

Cuz I look good.

[Charlamagne]

No, she looks like an executive that just signed a new singer from San Francisco. Okay.

[Andrew]

I should have fire.

[Akash]

That doesn't look like a couple. The other one I can see this one doesn't.

[Charlamagne]

This definitely. It's. You know what this is giving this.

[Akash]

If it's a couple looks. Looks like Al on Lover.

[Charlamagne]

You know what? This. No. This one right here is given. We got two kids. It didn't work out. We used to hate each other, boy. Now we're a good co parent for the kids.

[Akash]

But they're not fucking currently. That Pac picture looks like they're fucking currently and they have fucked. And she keeps talking about him. And Will was jealous of him for a reason.

[Charlamagne]

Shout out to Mandy and Weezy. All I know is y' all look like a couple in this picture, bro. Hey, come on. Nah, bro. No, no, no. All I'm saying saying is a man and a woman can be best friends.

[Akash]

Yep.

[Charlamagne]

And just be friends. But if.

[Andrew]

If Alex died, why would he be jealous of the.

[Akash]

Knock on God forbid, Whatever. Something happened to Alex. He passes away and then Mandy or Wheezy gets married, keeps writing love letters to Alex. We would all be like, yo, nothing happened. They were just friends. Or we'd be like, no, probably she was in love with him then and she's still in love with him.

[Charlamagne]

No, listen, first of all, let's think about how young they were when Pac got. Got killed and how you probably never get over that type of grief. And if you read Jada's book, they weren't even on the best of terms when he died. So that is even worse. That's even worse that you're not on the best of terms with a person and then that person passes and you like, damn, we could have got over that petty shit. So, yes, I'm writing you mad letters. I'm telling the world how much I love you because I hope wherever you are, you can hear me.

[Andrew]

She could just pray and he'll hear it just as much.

[Charlamagne]

She probably dug that too.

[Akash]

We didn't even go through a fight until she. She told us.

[Charlamagne]

Yeah, well, that's the beauty of books. And now you and. You know why they have such a close relationship.

[Akash]

You don't need to know.

[Charlamagne]

I, I, I, I think that a person can be friends. And we had. When I asked Will on Breakfast Club, I said, has he. Was he ever a Tupac? He was like, of course that's Tupac. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Akash]

Yeah, dude. Will was probably attracted to him.

[Charlamagne]

All right, man. What's next, man? You know what I'm saying?

[Akash]

Hey, Tupac with the shirt off, he look good. He's good looking, dog.

[Charlamagne]

This guy is so crazy, man.

[Mark]

I have one question about Atlanta that I'm actually hoping you can answer.

[Charlamagne]

Yes, get in Atlanta. By other what?

[Mark]

Hold on.

[Andrew]

Talking about Will Smith.

[Charlamagne]

Yo, come on, cut it out. What was your question?

[Mark]

What's up with dudes wearing skirts?

[Charlamagne]

I just answered your goddamn question.

[Mark]

They're not gay, though.

[Charlamagne]

They're not gay.

[Mark]

This is just fashion. Or maybe they're gay. I don't know all the details.

[Akash]

I'm not into it.

[Andrew]

They're happy to. Young thug is out.

[Charlamagne]

All right. You better cut it out. I mean, no.

[Andrew]

Thug did wear a skirt, though.

[Charlamagne]

He did wear a skirt.

[Akash]

I didn't say anything except I'm not into the fashion trend. That's it.

[Charlamagne]

I don't think it's gay. As long as it's a Glock 19 under there.

[Andrew]

There you go.

[Charlamagne]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mark]

You talking about his penis? What exactly is.

[Charlamagne]

Oh, it looks pretty long. And by the way, in Atlanta, for a moment, they was calling guns dicks. No. Yeah. Oh, sticks. Shit.

[Andrew]

That's a big difference.

[Akash]

Very different saying. Those are very different things.

[Mark]

That song stick to.

[Charlamagne]

Yo, shout out to the legend, Will Smith. Shout out to the legend Jada Pinkett Smith. Dick Tom. Okay, I don't know what a cop's talking about, okay? The Smiths are legendary. You hear me? Yes. All right. Forever. They're icons. You can't fall off. When you a icon, you can annoy people. Cause that's usually what happens, right? You win so much that and you win so long that you just become annoying to people. So we start.

[Akash]

He's been losing. I know you're trying to do the Drake thing.

[Charlamagne]

He hasn't been losing, bro. Yeah, like, he hasn't been. He won an Oscar tonight. He slapped somebody. This is literally Will's life. Extreme high, extreme low. You win the Oscar when you slap somebody. After the slap, you put out a movie that does 400 million and people still act like you fall off. You come out, you drop some of the hottest freestyles of the year. On purpose. On purpose. You're doing Social experiments to. To be comedic, right? And to see if people will fall for this shit that you doing. And you get crucified for it. You don't see the genius in what he's doing, bro.

[Sponsor Voice]

Yeah, gosh.

[Andrew]

You don't see the vision, bro.

[Charlamagne]

You don't see the vision, bro.

[Akash]

Why?

[Andrew]

Why We.

[Charlamagne]

Why? Al.

[Akash]

Al probably sees the vision.

[Andrew]

I mean, Mark does too.

[Charlamagne]

You know what's crazy about this picture? This is a picture of Burning Man. That is Andrew Dove. Who's that? Who's the other Mark and Alex? I thought that was fucking Johnny Depp. I know that's Alex, but that's you, Mark. For real. Yeah.

[Guest 1]

Charlotte likes Mark, bro.

[Charlamagne]

You. I just know the funny thing, the craziest. The craziest thing about this picture is everybody in this picture looks like more of a couple than Tupac and J.

[Andrew]

To D. And his skirts, y'.

[Charlamagne]

All and your holy motherfucking skirts, man. How the y' all wearing skirts but just was judging those young men in Atlanta.

[Andrew]

It's Burning Man. It's different.

[Akash]

I didn't wear no skirt at Burning Man.

[Andrew]

Trust me, it's different.

[Guest 1]

Nor did Andrew. You didn't of these photos.

[Charlamagne]

You can be gay at Burning Man.

[Andrew]

It's not.

[Akash]

That's actually what they go there for.

[Mark]

That's kind of the point.

[Charlamagne]

So it's like you be gay, but then when you leave, you're not. Nobody remembers.

[Akash]

It's like Will Smith at a party. All right, man.

[Charlamagne]

All right.

[Sponsor Voice]

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[Charlamagne]

Go to. As always, if you listen to flagrant. You think we're flagrant? Hey, sorry.

[Akash]

If you. If you think you're flagging, you're probably right. If you will think Will Smith is gay, you're even more right.

[Charlamagne]

All right, y'. All.

[Akash]

We'll see y' all next week.