Husband with Da HEAVIES, Ye Banned for Jew Hate, + Summer House is Wrestling for Women | #699

Summary

Flagrant with Andrew Schulz & Akaash Singh

Episode: Husband with Da HEAVIES, Ye Banned for Jew Hate, + Summer House is Wrestling for Women (April 8, 2026)

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Main Theme & Episode Overview

In this unruly and hilarious episode of Flagrant, Andrew Schulz, Akaash Singh, AlexxMedia, and Mark Gagnon (plus producer Miles) dive into a characteristically wide-ranging, ribald, and debate-fueled conversation spanning:

• The ongoing self-roasting and “husband body” dilemma among the male hosts,
• The culture war around “hot takes,” drugs, peptides, and modern masculinity,
• The international stir over Kanye West (Ye) getting banned from UK concerts for antisemitic remarks,
• A deep, surprise-investigation into Bravo’s hit reality series “Summer House”—which the crew agree is “wrestling for women”—with special guest “White Alex,” who brings expert-level breakdown and fandom.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Dad Bod Arms Race, Peptides, and Modern Male Vanity

00:00–20:30

• The gang launches immediately with playful but savage body shaming—comparing old photos, complaining about love handles and “husband heavies,” while reflecting on how hard it is to stay in shape as married guys with kids.
• Schulz and Akaash roast each other and Mark for “losing their gains,” comparing awkward shirtless pics, and waxing nostalgic for their former ripped selves. They fiercely debate bulking vs. cutting, hoodies at the gym to hide bellies, and emotional eating spirals.
• Notable Quote:
  “To be 40 years old and to have children—I don’t know a single guy my age who isn’t bringing up peptides within the first three minutes of conversation.”
  —Akaash (05:28)
• Intense joking about microdosing weight-loss drugs, new “GLP1” fat shots, and the psychological cost of fighting middle-age flab.
• Notable Quote:
  “Imagine being fat with no kids. What excuse do you have?” —Schulz (16:04)
• Comedy dips into confessions about shame—wearing T-shirts to bed or blaming open windows for not wanting to see themselves or show their wives their new “pizza body.”

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2. “White Power,” Race, and Social Constructs

37:00–46:00

• The group turns the table on racial dynamics—with deeply sarcastic riffs on “white power,” what hand signals count, and why overt white supremacists are embarrassing the rest.
• A sharp, comic analysis of the “flexibility” of whiteness: Why Americans include anyone undervalued elsewhere in “whiteness,” and how this compares to internal divisions among Black and Latino cultures.
• Notable Quote:
  “White people are the most diverse race of people—it’s just a fact. Look at black people… until you have a Michael Jackson.”
  —Schulz (42:45)
• Group explores the “construct” of race, riffing on Michael Jackson, Rachel Dolezal, and how social constructs shift over time for survival or advantage.
• Ultimately, they jokingly propose: “We’re really all the same. It’s just a construct, dude.” (45:10)

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3. Nuclear Football: Ethics of Armageddon

46:43–52:00

• A what-if debate: If you’re President of the United States and nukes are inbound, do you retaliate and end humanity or not?
• The crew weighs “get back” pride against the moral imperative of letting the human species survive.
• Discussion touches on Japan’s post-Hiroshima pacifism, religion as a compass for power, and the psychology of bunker survival.
• “Would you end humanity for pride?” becomes a running philosophical thread.

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4. Kanye (Ye) Banned for Antisemitism

58:30–63:00

• Breaking down the news: Kanye West is banned from the UK (and loses a headlining Wireless festival slot) due to ongoing antisemitic remarks.
• Entire festival is cancelled after major sponsors (PayPal & others) pull out.
• Notable Quotes:
  “Can’t support a guy who sold a swastika shirt. That’s crazy. I don’t think even Hitler sold them!” —Schulz (60:30)
  “He said slavery was a choice… Whoa.” —Akaash (60:42)
• Tension and dark comedy as Schulz keeps pushing Mark to explain why he called out PayPal as a sponsor. The implication game goes into full Flagrant mode.
• Somewhat surprisingly, the guys all agree Ye’s new SoFi stadium concert “looked fire,” even as they roast his controversies and blackballing.

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5. Reality TV DEEP DIVE: “Summer House”—With Special Guest "White Alex"

72:30–146:21 (Recurring until episode close)

• White Alex joins, and the crew gets a full, passionate deep-dive on Bravo’s “Summer House.”
• Context: The show features a group of (increasingly influencer-leaning) New Yorkers who share a Hamptons house every summer—hookups, breakups, drama and all.
• White Alex tracks the core drama: The deteriorating marriage of Kyle and Amanda; friend Sierra (house’s “girl’s girl”) hyping Amanda to leave Kyle; Kyle’s DJ- and reality-TV-inflated midlife crisis; alcohol seltzer company (“Lover Boy”) failing; after a bitter breakup, Amanda hooks up with Wes—Sierra’s ex—triggering girl code, bro code, and a fandom meltdown.
• Mark and Schulz interrogate reality show “morality”—are these real betrayals, or just content farming?
• They reconstruct timelines, motives, group codes, and even whether production manipulation taints the whole experiment.

Key Points and Timestamps (MM:SS):

• Setup & White Alex appears:
  “Best show on television right now.” —Akaash (72:41)
  “Hour and a half of race talk… What am I coming into?” —White Alex (73:39)
• Summer House breakdown: 74:32–86:09
  • Kyle & Amanda’s unraveling marriage, Sierra’s role.
  • Peeler: “Is she interfering with their marriage?” / “She’s not interfering… she’s just a good bestie.” (82:45)
• Wes enters, friend code/girl code: 85:17–94:24
• Did Amanda betray her girlfriend (Sierra) by hooking up with her ex?
  “That is just breaking girl code—you cannot do that.” —White Alex (93:16)
• Questions around reality TV manipulation: 117:51–125:08 “This is a science experiment. Producers put people in rooms… then edit for maximum drama.” —Mark (117:51)
• Meta-discussion: Is this all performative for followers/influencer economy? (133:00+)
• Conclusions:
  Most hosts end up Team Sierra, side-eyeing Amanda, and mocking the men; with broad agreement: “It’s wrestling for women—kayfabe drama with some real emotional carnage.”

Memorable Quotes:

• “Summer House is wrestling for women.” —Akaash (title, recurrent, ~140:01)
• “Would you let someone film the intimacies of your emotional relationships… and you still work at a restaurant?” —Schulz (119:06)
• “These people are as mentally ill as the people who go on Dr. Phil. Maybe more.” —Schulz (132:59)
• “Can women have hobbies?” —White Alex (122:09)

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6. Recurring Segments, Social Commentary, and Callbacks

• The value/danger of fame and attention: “The influencer economy doesn’t work anymore. You want attention, you pay a price.” (133:28)
• Meta-comedy about America needing “drama distraction” as wars and stress are ongoing—“Summer House” becomes a safe, deliciously trivial escape.
• Flagrant typically closes with wild audience Q&A, but in this episode the focus stays squarely on reality TV and group therapy.

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Summary: Why Listen?

This episode is pure Flagrant—personal, combative, and laugh-out-loud funny, with the hosts unafraid to call each other out, weaponize their own insecurity for comedy, and drop unexpectedly sharp insight into pop culture, masculinity, race, and the crumbling line between reality TV and real life. If you’ve missed the “no holds barred” comedian’s hang, this is it at full strength.

For listeners unfamiliar with the show or “Summer House,” this summary gives you everything you need:

• Ongoing host dynamics and self-parody,
• Hot takes and social commentary on pop culture flashpoints (Kanye/Ye, reality TV drama),
• A play-by-play of the “Summer House” saga so you can immediately join the watercooler talk,
• And the best soundbites, ready to deploy.

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Highly Recommended Timestamps

• Opening Dad Bod Roast: 00:00–15:00
• Peptide/Middle Age Crisis: 05:28; 14:49
• Race/Social Construct Riff: 37:00–46:00
• Kanye/Ye Ban Discussion: 58:30–63:00
• Wrestling for Women—Summer House Breakdown with White Alex: 72:30–146:21
• Closing: Reality TV, morality, and America’s need for distraction: 133:00–146:21

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If you want to know how the male ego, peptide mania, pop drama, and raw reality TV obsession all collide—this is the episode to check out.

Transcript

[A]

What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant. It's your boy Schultze. Alex Media. Marky Gags in the building. And.

[B]

And Miles Media.

[A]

Oh, sorry, Miles Media is in here. Give yourself a drop. Give yourself a drop. 1.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, let's go. I mean, come on.

[A]

That's why I didn't say it. Yeah, he wasn't ready for his moment, bro.

[B]

Yeah, come on.

[A]

What you're asking. And shout out to Robert Kelly because he had a whole special, I think, named after this.

[B]

Yes, the final fat.

[A]

The final fat. Yeah. Robert Kelly is hilarious comedian. But. But yeah. You asked me if I'm getting to this point where I'm like, I'm not going to lose the weight again.

[B]

You just said you gained weight. You were just like, yeah, I got to a point where I've gained a couple pounds.

[A]

It's to the point where it's like, if I have pizza, it's like a two week stint of pizza. No, it's like it stays on me for weeks. I used to have, like. I used to be like, when I was a kid, it was like three shits. I'd be back in shape.

[C]

How do you keep telling this lie? You've never been in shape.

[A]

I'm sorry.

[C]

But never. Like, you used to think you had abs at a certain point.

[B]

There's one picture of him, he's in the towel. It's like kind of blurry. It's like super far away.

[A]

Fuck you.

[B]

No, I'm backing you up. I'm backing you up. There is a picture.

[C]

The time when you.

[A]

It's blurry.

[B]

Far away. It was a different time. It was the 1900s. It was. It was difficult.

[C]

The time when you were on the island with Duvall and no shirt, it was just like no arms and you were like flexing.

[A]

This is a New York.

[C]

Like, I don't know who looked worse, him or Duvall. And Duvall looks like an alien New York white dude.

[A]

Yo, Duval, you gonna take. Let him talk to you like that, bro. Come over here and smack the out with one of your ch.

[B]

Yeah. Painted nails and opinions. He got.

[A]

This guy got painted nails.

[C]

Disgusting deflection. No, but you look good now. I was just giving you a compliment.

[A]

No compliments. And then you just started saying, he looks like.

[B]

I didn't say that.

[A]

With positivity. Can we try that? I agree. I tried. Hi, everybody.

[D]

Hello.

[A]

My name is Andrew. I'm here with Alex. I'm here with Mark. We're also here with Miles. And we're just going to start off by Saying one nice thing about each other.

[B]

All right, all right, you start.

[A]

Okay, that was a disc

[B]

that up probably moss.

[A]

Can you add that? Okay, I. I will start. Okay. I think you look better with less muscles.

[B]

Okay. See, no, that. Because that's an insult. Why are you framing like it's a good thing? I don't think I've lost less. I don't think I've lost muscle.

[A]

You got you like you were Aquaman for a minute, dude.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

There was a moment where you were, like, really beefy and, like, strong.

[B]

I talked to Chatgpt and it said that I still have the strength. I just need to lose weight.

[A]

What have you cut out? You've cut out exercise to be like,

[B]

I had a kid. It's like. And then heroin chic.

[C]

But you don't look like the heroin has hit yet.

[B]

I'm coming off a shoulder injury.

[A]

It's like. It's just. She just sheath.

[C]

There you go.

[A]

No, but you miraculously, the heroin's close. You've lost far behind. You've lost how much pound, how many pounds of muscle?

[B]

No, I've gained. I've gained muscle. Probably you just can't see it because I'm bulking.

[C]

I mean, come on, Easter, you shouldn't lie.

[B]

I'm bulking like, it's too close.

[A]

I'm concerned about weather that will, like, expose my body. Like, I like, I'm wearing, like, hoodies to the gym and. And they'll be like 60. And I'll be like, I'm keeping this because it's like, if I got a tight shirt under, you start to see the belly.

[C]

Are you going to do T shirt in the pool or something?

[A]

No, I can't.

[C]

If you go, I will.

[B]

I'll push if you want.

[C]

You going to be like, duh, I.

[B]

I'll push you in. And then if you're like, why you wear a shirt? Be someone.

[C]

Push me in.

[A]

Dove has so much confidence with the worst body. It's like he has huge, fat tits and hips.

[C]

The women he dance, he looked like

[A]

he could do one of. What are those dances that his people do? Oh, the belly dance. Yeah. Like, he's built like a belly dance,

[C]

but it doesn't shake. It just shakes.

[A]

Oh, my God. But he's so confident about it.

[C]

Yeah, he looked good.

[A]

I want to say something nice about you.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. I like your metal. I like your, like, Harley Davidson inspired WTF media merch. Yes.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

I assume it's Harley inspired or biker gang inspired.

[C]

Godspeed. It's a Brand that they have graphic tees similar to this.

[A]

What do you think they're inspired by? You fucking idiot.

[C]

It's not the only design they do.

[B]

That was five seconds before an insult.

[A]

I was trying to be positive. Well, that's awesome that you did the Godspeed thing. That's really good. And I like it.

[C]

Black brand, you know, Is it like to copy black brands, you know?

[A]

Okay, are you giving them a piece? So you're just ripping off. You're ripping off other black pants. I got it.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

I've got a 20 in 2026. We can live now.

[A]

How far. How far off are we from like a micro dosing? Micro dosing. Micro dosing.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I'm like a. The fat drug. Oh, close.

[C]

He's on it already.

[A]

Yeah, the GOP one.

[B]

No, why?

[A]

Wait, wait, why isn't that the inception of the drug? I don't want to take away my whole appetite. I don't want to change everything. Take away dessert, take away bread.

[C]

You're not on it yet.

[A]

No, but I'm so close to doing all the drugs.

[B]

Guys, let me tell you something.

[A]

Let me tell you.

[B]

I was about to be a Peptide king.

[A]

To be 40 years old and to have children. I don't know a single guy that is my age that is not bring up Peptides within the first three minutes of every conversation.

[C]

Yeah, it's going to kill us off. Do you think I'm on the nad?

[A]

You are on the nad.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I just don't think it's free, bro.

[A]

Yeah, it's not free. Neither is alcohol. Nearest coffee.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[C]

Neither is heroin.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Not on heroin.

[A]

All right. It's not on heroin. I think you're. No, no, it's not heroin, but it's. This is the most. If. If we can be the most insulting to Mark, It's. You've lost all of your gains.

[C]

Yeah,

[A]

so much, dude.

[B]

I was gained.

[A]

You need to get a picture of his gains, dude. There is a picture of him coming out of the pool.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

This is last summer when he just like

[C]

28th July, when he couldn't do a pull up. Yes. Yeah.

[A]

You're back in Pittsburgh when he can't do the. He can't do the monkey bar.

[B]

Yeah, we're going in cycles, bro.

[A]

What company is going to sell the GLP1, the fat shots where it just takes. What if it could take away specific meals?

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Bread make me not like bread.

[B]

It made sugar taste bad. Imagine that. Isn't that what I'm Saying yes and yes and.

[A]

Oh, yes and yes.

[B]

What is this? Don't post this, brother.

[D]

Oh,

[A]

that did not come from me.

[B]

What does the meaning of this is

[C]

this fucking nano banana.

[B]

Don't talk about my penis like that. David had this queued up and just sent it to me immediately.

[A]

David is so. I'm going to be. I'm going to be dead serious right now. Is that you?

[B]

Yes, that's me from before I had a child.

[C]

No, but this is a real.

[A]

A real image or is that a chat GB image?

[C]

It's a real image.

[A]

You have fallen.

[C]

No, no, no, Honestly, David.

[A]

That's a perfect body. David's background on his. That's a perfect body.

[B]

Before and after.

[C]

I didn't know you declined this much. Like.

[B]

No, I'm going to come back. I'm going to. I'm going to circle back on that.

[A]

That's not.

[C]

But look at him on the Roy. You see all the veins and popping out.

[A]

Is that chat GBT or not?

[C]

Nah, he was on the test right here.

[B]

Unfortunately. That was me.

[C]

He was on the test.

[B]

That was me and my glory days.

[A]

Holy moly.

[B]

What happened?

[A]

I don't think I ever had a test.

[C]

A little test.

[B]

No.

[A]

So.

[C]

No, you can't, because that makes you mad vascular, bro. Crazy vascular. No, but not the good cut.

[B]

Oh, not the good cut.

[C]

Whatever his name is.

[A]

That just made me uncomfortable.

[C]

No, but the type that, like, you about to kill your wife and like that then off yourself. Right, Right before.

[A]

No, no, cuz Ben Wild never had a body like that. This isn't. He's like an action figure. Like, this is an insane body.

[B]

Yeah, that's what happens when you have kids. It just all falls apart. My. My literal thought was like, I want to get in shape one time before. I never get in shape.

[C]

Yo, why are you blaming your kids, bro?

[B]

It's a trade. It's a trade. No, it's a trade. It's a trade, bro. I'm telling you. If there's.

[C]

You've always had this before kids.

[A]

I never had it. I never had this. So I'm telling you. So my belt never had. My belt is made of leather, right? You've never. Can I make this point, please? Can I make this point? My belt is made of leather, okay? Leather stretches. Like, you know how you have a belt for a year, it no longer fits you. This shit fits perfect. I haven't even moved a knot.

[B]

You're stretching with it.

[A]

I'm stretching with the belt. Look at that.

[C]

Like, do you think this is That's a good shape. Did you just see the picture before? Like, can we just.

[A]

Hold on, hold on. I know you're making your point here, but that's good shape. And I'm having a king cake in New Orleans. Like, that's good shape.

[B]

It's good.

[A]

I would die to have that back. I would do anything to have that.

[C]

Put this side by side with fucking Wolverine Mark for a second.

[A]

Because I'm not saying I'm Mark. I'm not saying I'm Mark.

[C]

Like, that's good shape.

[A]

Yo, Mark, you could get nutted in. No, I don't. Mark, you get nutted in.

[B]

Real talk. Don't say that. Don't say that. Boom, boom, boom. Stop.

[A]

Don't.

[B]

Stop nutting me. No.

[A]

Holy. I'm trying to put some ice skates on.

[B]

What is that? Okay, no, Mark, no.

[A]

That body is crazy.

[C]

This is like that rivalry, the hockey show right there. You got one of those.

[B]

Okay, for the record, I just want

[A]

to say I'll try to act like he ain't binge watch that show out of here.

[C]

It would have hit hard if I knew the name of it. Yeah, there we go.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Also for the record, my 13 year old nephew started listening to this program. He talked to me when I was down in Florida.

[A]

He was like, what's his washed, bro?

[B]

I don't want to say. I don't want to say his name. I can't say his name. That's the family.

[A]

Is he a Gagnon?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

All right, young Gagnon. Your uncle could get nutted.

[B]

Okay. No, I know.

[C]

No, he. Back in the day.

[A]

Your uncle could catch the full load.

[B]

It's inappropriate.

[A]

And you keep pumping. You don't even stop. I'm going to ask full low key bumping until there's nothing left. What the fuck? So everyone's in shape. So everybody's trying to be in shape.

[C]

So.

[A]

So we only got one picture of me with a king cake. I'm just saying, that's the only pictures we have, is me with a king cake.

[B]

What is this post? Does Alex media really have 9.5 inches?

[A]

Yeah, son. Yeah, baby. Son.

[B]

What's the next click over?

[A]

Yo, stay right there, though.

[D]

Click over.

[C]

Did you see the difference between 9.4 hogs?

[A]

Go back, go back, go back. Go, go back, go back. Damn, you look so short. You are so short, you don't even count. You're in shape.

[C]

I can take that. Because if your peak, if your peak was that bad, how tiny he is

[B]

now, you're falling off dramatically.

[A]

Al for real. You can't show Al without Logan because then he looks like a normal sized person. You look miniature in that one.

[B]

Can you zoom in?

[A]

Look how close your tits are to your belly button. That's not normal. You shouldn't have that little distance between. Can you put your nipple in your belly button?

[C]

I know. It sucks that you've never looked good. It must suck, son.

[A]

I'm married. I got kids.

[C]

Yeah. So what about the.

[A]

That's a face swap, too. You don't have that type of chin.

[C]

Look at that.

[A]

That guy's in good.

[C]

Look at that, bro.

[A]

That guy's a good.

[B]

Who's happier, you think, son?

[A]

I look like one of them. One of them whales that will catch a rugby ball. Have you seen the guy's toy Beluga? Beluga.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Get a beluga monster.

[A]

Damn, bro. I want to say it's because I got kids, but I didn't have any back then. I had no excuse to not be in shape. We all had the same exact time to work out. God damn, Al, you were in good shape. Mark looks better, objectively. Let's go.

[C]

Yeah, but that's better.

[A]

That's right, but he also has a better pose. You're posing too flat.

[B]

Yeah, that's true.

[A]

You don't got to bring up the picture to beluga. Joey, Joki, Google belugas, man. Come on, now. You can bring it up.

[C]

Bring it up.

[B]

Let me see.

[A]

Let me see what it looks like.

[C]

Nah, Mark, you used to look good, though.

[B]

Yeah, no, it's just. And that's just. You put it up on the wall and say, all right, that was mega abs. Have you seen how Jack the beluga is? They're in unbelievably good shape. Yeah, bro. Look.

[A]

Look at that, Loki. That looks like me on the. On the bed with the king.

[B]

And that's my forehead, bro. Exactly.

[A]

That's a perfect damn mark. Oh, how long did it. Damn mark. Yo.

[C]

I know.

[A]

I might even clean you up after.

[D]

Stop, stop.

[A]

I'll be like, yo, go fart that out. Yo, fart out, fam.

[B]

Literally, my nephew's watching this. That's inappropriate.

[D]

Nephew.

[C]

Your.

[A]

Your uncle had it, bro.

[B]

Had.

[C]

That's crazy.

[A]

And you know when he did it? You did this when wifey was pregnant, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So when his wife was at her fattest, guess what he looked like? You're a son of a. Yeah, that's.

[B]

This is my only window to do it. This is my only chance to do it. Nah, that's. When else am I ever gonna Be

[A]

able to do, bro. I at least gain weight with my wife.

[B]

That's love.

[A]

Thank you. That's love and solidarity.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, you're like. While you. Your fattest. I'm gonna look.

[A]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[C]

Damn, that's bad.

[A]

I think I got body dysmorphia. The other way. Nothing.

[C]

I think you think you look better

[A]

than you do, son. When me and Dove sat next to each other, stood next to each other for this exact pick. You don't.

[D]

I.

[A]

In my mind, I was like, we're looking at two different human beings. Like, I literally was like, how could Dove even think that he's even close to me? It's closer than you think. Yes.

[C]

That's what I've been trying to tell you.

[A]

That's the straight of or moves right there, bro.

[B]

I don't know if you can.

[A]

That's. That's really close.

[B]

Yeah, it's very narrow.

[A]

That's a narrow lead. I had. I had a lead at least. Yeah, but it was narrower.

[B]

Yeah, but then.

[A]

Yeah, but you have.

[C]

You have a chin, though, so you're good.

[A]

No. Does face card wins. He's got a great face card. I was in good shape back then.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

I was in good shape.

[C]

Yeah, you had a tan, I'll give you that.

[A]

Yeah, this is.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, man. We got it, bro. We got it. We got it. We got it. Can I live?

[C]

You got love. Can I slim crazy?

[A]

No, no, no, no. I don't got the handles. I didn't have handles back then. I didn't have handles.

[C]

I had the V cut with. This is nuts.

[A]

No, I had the V cut.

[C]

Go back to dumb. Go.

[A]

I have love handles. Out of here, bro.

[C]

It's going on.

[A]

That's a V cut, dumbass. That's a V cut.

[C]

Grab it where it cut.

[A]

Yo. No. Dub Dub is blocking his handle. That's a V cut, dumbass.

[C]

It comes out. It's protrude his hand.

[A]

A muscle there from paddle. That's from battle. That's from getting down for them shots. Little vibra volley. You too lean, bro. That's insanity right there. You can't take a punch. I could take a punch better than y'. All.

[B]

We got to get back to that. How are we going to get back to that?

[C]

No, we think I look good right now.

[A]

We don't have children. If you are in shape and you don't have children, it doesn't count. Yeah, it's not impressive. Yeah, what excuse do you have? Imagine being fat with no Kids.

[B]

Yeah. For what?

[A]

What is your excuse, Miles? It's lit. What is your excuse? I have no excuses. I also have no shame. This rules. Yeah.

[C]

I wish I didn't have that. Like, I mean, I wish I had that.

[A]

That confidence.

[B]

I'll eat, like. And I'll wear a shirt to bed because I'm embarrassed.

[A]

Son. Did that last night. I did it last night

[B]

because I don't want to see myself.

[A]

I told my wife it was because the window was open. It wasn't. It's because I had so much bread all day and that pizza from four days ago still hanging on my tits. You feel so gross.

[C]

Winnie the Pooh situation.

[B]

I gotta cover up certain boxes. I'm sleeping like my girl.

[A]

I'm getting on a glp. Well, I just want a little one. Cut sugar out. Out.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Imagine off sugar, except for alcohol.

[B]

Well, there's a bunch of peptides. Retta is one of them. Yeah.

[A]

The Ratatouille, they're calling it. Yeah, they are calling it the Ratatouille.

[C]

Oh, really?

[A]

That's what they're calling it. That's what the looks Maxers are calling it the Ratatouille.

[B]

Really? Because you got a little.

[A]

It's ratatouille tied, right?

[B]

You're tapped in with them. I didn't know you tapped in like that. So I didn't know you had knowledge. I didn't know. You all right, John?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I learned this one.

[B]

I think it might be.

[A]

Look at. Why would I even take that picture?

[C]

I don't know, bro. I remember when you. I was like, all right, he's a comedian. I guess he's going for the funny.

[A]

Al's old post of him standing in front of a car he didn't own. I hated when Al did that. You faker. Wait a minute, hold on. You took a picture in front of a car you didn't own?

[C]

This is my car.

[A]

What are you talking about?

[B]

No, there was one. No, there was one.

[C]

And then the caption would be like,

[A]

man, my dreams are like clouds high. You used to have Lil Wayne verses

[C]

with the N word in them.

[A]

Don't get sensitive out. This right here, you take dick in your mouth. Look at that picture.

[C]

That was wild.

[A]

Crazy dick in the. Why you got your ankle up on a car bumper, bro?

[B]

Whose car is it?

[C]

I really was like, yo, the outfit goes. Go to the cafe.

[B]

Like, that's the extent of your fashion.

[C]

The colors is matching colors.

[A]

That hurt. Nothing else has affected out. Now we gotta go to old Al's Instagram. Instagram you need to see, like, we need you to see what we see.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay, let's go.

[A]

I'm a little distance with some distance.

[B]

Because you called it out years ago where you were like, yo, why you never look at the camera?

[A]

Oh, yeah. Every picture, like, you were doing your little fashion where you're, like, looking off into the distance.

[C]

I was nervous.

[A]

Good.

[C]

It don't load.

[A]

All right. You delete old photos.

[C]

No, I don't think.

[A]

Okay, okay.

[C]

You just have to scroll a long time.

[A]

Oh, this is gonna take. It's gonna take a while.

[B]

Yeah, he'll find it. He'll find it. You never did look at the camera for years. For years. You were just.

[C]

Yeah, I was, you know, not as comfortable.

[B]

Excuse me.

[C]

No, I'm a Dodgers now.

[A]

What. What happened right there?

[C]

Nah, I just see little phlegm or whatever, but. But no, I just. I just wasn't comfortable taking pictures before. Here's a. I didn't like it. I still actually don't like it.

[A]

But then why were you taking them?

[C]

Cuz I thought that's what you have to do for Instagram Is this one?

[A]

No, that's badass.

[C]

That's fire.

[A]

That's fire.

[B]

That was sick.

[C]

See? Give me some.

[B]

Is that the.

[C]

I think there's a bike that Shifty almost died on.

[B]

I think Shifty a struck on that video.

[C]

Yeah, I think so.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

Oh, no. Yo, shout out, Shifty.

[C]

Shout out, Shifty.

[A]

We love you, the legs. We love you, my boy.

[C]

Free Shifty.

[A]

Free Joe. I sent you one. Free Shifty. Yeah, we're gonna get it.

[C]

Miles, why are you working so hard to help Joey right now?

[A]

Nah, this is.

[B]

Let's get a caption. And 9 to 5 is how you survive. I'm not trying to survive. I'm trying to live to the limit and live a lot.

[A]

We used to have to see this every Jay Z lyric day.

[C]

Jay Z lyric in front of my own car. This is fly. Y' all ain't gonna shame me for this one. I stand on this one.

[A]

I want to read some of the comments. Gassing you up.

[C]

This is why.

[A]

Yo, tell them folk living lavish still grinding like I'm broke Black Excellence. That's a flick. Shout out. Guys, quick tour update. Finally, after a year and a half, we're getting back out there on the road. I'm very excited. We. We posted a couple cities. We posted Tampa and Salt Lake. Man, thank you guys so much for selling out those shows. Anybody who reached out, you know, asking if we're gonna add more shows in those cities. It is possible. If we do, I'll make sure I post on my Instagram or something like that. But thank you so much. We just added Denver and Virginia beach as well. I'm sure we'll add some more cities coming up as we, you know, start to put together this, this, this next hour, man, and figure out what this tour is going to be like. So I'm excited to come see you guys once again. I'll probably post on my Instagram if we're adding more shows or most cities coming up, but theAndrewSholz.com if you want to grab tickets for those places. Mark, what you got?

[B]

April 23rd, Providence, Rhode Island.

[A]

Yeah, baby.

[B]

Yeah. Comedy connection. And then. Thanks, Al. And then Plano, Texas, later this year, mic drop in C.H. chandler, Pasadena, California, San Diego and Detroit, as well as the monthly show that I do with my good pal David Sanchez and Joey Avery at Maryloots called Static Hat. That is on April 28th. April 20th.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

And that's it for me. This episode is brought to you by Athletic Brewing Company.

[D]

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online at athleticbrewing.com near Beer Fit for all times. Yeah. Would you take Peptides?

[A]

Would I? Okay.

[B]

Why would you not like what stopped me right now?

[A]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Really? What? Alex got a picture of Rihanna.

[C]

No.

[A]

Oh, no. Sorry.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

You took a fake pick with Rihanna? Yeah. Are you kidding me?

[B]

Wait, hold on. Go, go down. No, Joey.

[A]

No. Joey.

[B]

Keep going, keep going. A little more. And there you go. Oh, babe.

[C]

It was April fruits, I think.

[A]

Look at the.

[C]

Oh, she shares the birthday as my mom. All right, that's why. Yeah, it was fun. Fun for the grandpa. That's a great ass Photoshop though.

[A]

It was April 4th.

[C]

Oh, and then this is the time where you told them to put put dicks on my Instagram for about a year.

[A]

It's my fault.

[C]

For a year I was getting eggplants and people were sending me dick pics.

[A]

Oh, man.

[C]

Because y' all said that on the podcast.

[B]

That's so funny.

[A]

How?

[C]

How?

[A]

I thought it was April Fool's.

[D]

It was April Fool.

[C]

I thought it was. It was something.

[A]

The knee jerk reaction. That Picture is from 476weeks ago as a knee jerk reaction. Oh, no, that was April 4th.

[C]

I thought it was something I knew I did it for, but I guess just, you know, get my off.

[D]

Damn.

[B]

February 20th.

[A]

Yeah. Black history, man. Black history.

[B]

Yeah. And people expect on April Fools. You do it on February 20th. Who sees that going, right?

[A]

Yo, can we.

[C]

Shut up, Mark.

[B]

I'm agreeing with you. I'm bailing you out.

[A]

Can we. Can we free fire picture, though? Can we free Kristi Noem's husband real quick? Can we just free him real fast? Is that.

[B]

Yeah, get some. Get some pics up. Dude.

[C]

Dude, I gotta stop shaming this guy, bro.

[A]

I look like him. When he. When I saw that picture of him with the titties, I was like, this is me in the mirror now. Like, that's what I look like. That's why I'm putting on that T shirt before I go to bed. Nipples is like cash Patel eyes.

[C]

Yo, that's funny, yo. That's funny.

[A]

Can you explain to me what this absolute saint is doing?

[B]

Oh, poor guy.

[C]

And what type of new phrase is that with the face? Like, is that some type of modification? No, no, but like the clavicular sayings, like, what does that have a name for that type of face when somebody's doing that face?

[B]

That face?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

No, no, it's not frame moggin or some shit like that.

[A]

Duck lips maxing.

[B]

Yeah, it might be Duck Max. It might be dsl, Maxim right now.

[A]

DSL Max? Yeah. Okay, so what's the deal? Like, he's just into cross dressing and that's. And he's being shamed for this?

[B]

Yeah, he's into this. This is kind of his, like his little kink. And apparently this has been going on for a long time. He's married to Kristi Noem, former head of the dhs. Do you hear that? Is it Jumanji back there?

[A]

Yeah, we just. They're doing some construction. Okay. They're constructing something. It just sounds not part of our studio. Something else.

[C]

Yeah, that does sound like my pump.

[A]

I was like, I'm right here. Yeah, but then you're like, wait, I'm not. I'm not. Who's playing my way too far back.

[B]

So we play my hints over.

[A]

I was like, that's a. My grams too.

[B]

Damn. This is how it feels to be your neighbor, bro. It's not crazy. Think about that, Al.

[A]

You're short stroking.

[C]

This is like towards the end when you.

[A]

Yo, do you try to like. Like slow and do all the rhythm and all that kind of stuff.

[B]

It depends how I look.

[C]

I'm just trying to last.

[B]

If I look like Brian here, then. No, but if I'm looking like old beluga more.

[A]

You different when you were in really great shape.

[B]

Yeah, I think so. You kind of feel yourself, you know, you got. You get a mirror on the side. Oh, okay.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Maritime. Yeah.

[B]

But then now you see a mirror and you're like, oh, my. What that guy doing to that girl? You see yourself in the mirror now.

[A]

You're like, oh, Lord. Yeah, the mirror is insane.

[C]

Yeah. You need mirrors all around your house. It keeps you looking better than that.

[A]

Check right?

[B]

What.

[A]

What is better than that? That was such an unnecessary thing. Encourage you to, like, he's feel like, bro, that's.

[C]

Yeah, you need to. You need some of that.

[B]

Yeah, you do. Hit the baby a little bit.

[C]

Come on. You owe it to your wife, right, bro?

[B]

He finished.

[C]

By the way, she had a kid.

[A]

2.

[C]

And you know, she's doing what she got to do.

[A]

What do you owe the.

[C]

You talking about?

[A]

What do you owe?

[C]

I'm keeping myself.

[A]

What do you owe to your wife?

[C]

I look good for my wife. She looks good for me.

[A]

Schultz is a knuckle thief in his own company. God damn, Schultz. That's how I judge my fat. How far my finger goes in my own belly button. Watching you talk oil check right now.

[B]

Are you being good little nutritionist?

[A]

Oh, that's.

[B]

You bring clients in, you're like, all right, let me take a look. Put the glove on. You think I got about a knuckle deep?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, I know that knuckles probably smells.

[A]

No, my belly button doesn't smell. Really? Yeah, I've heard people say that. Smell it.

[B]

No, I don't.

[A]

Come on, you white. Y' all do that type of no smell. Yeah, I don't. I. I'm honest about smells. Can we acknowledge that?

[C]

What about your ear?

[A]

No, my ear doesn't smell. My. Obviously my farts and that kind of shit. Yes. But, like, no, none of this other stuff. This, like, belly button smell. I didn't know that that was a real thing. Somebody said that the other day. Like, oh, what does your belly button smell like? I'm like, what is that?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So you get in there when you wash?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Come on.

[B]

What do you say?

[A]

Like that.

[B]

Like, who gets in?

[A]

Don't we all? Don't we all? Aren't you scrubbing it with the loofah?

[C]

That's like when you asked me about the Rihanna picture just now. Come on, man.

[B]

You Let the studs get in there, there. Let the suds get in.

[A]

You really in shape for no reason, huh?

[C]

For my wife. I keep it together.

[A]

She not, she not from America, bro. Like you. You have even fat even more.

[C]

I got cheap because they used to people being,

[A]

you know, like if she want to stay way she looking right

[C]

now, I might be going over there.

[A]

You going to Spain?

[C]

Out of here.

[A]

Let me. Spain is closer. They might be able to reach Spain.

[C]

Yeah. But right now they with Trump a little bit too much. They gotta chill out. What you mean like they're not letting us land on their bases. They're not trying to help at all.

[A]

So that, that makes you safe from Iran, but it might not make you safe from.

[B]

From America dropping a nuke on you.

[A]

We can't nuke Spain.

[C]

Oh yeah, we're recording this Tuesday.

[A]

Oh yeah. By the way, yeah. If the world is over tonight, we're gonna still up upload it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'll be texting Miles. I'll be knocking on Miles door with my leg hanging off just like yo, get the episode up and make sure it starts with your what's up? We do for Patreon or regular episode. Yeah, same type type type.

[B]

But yeah, Spain wouldn't be too bad. But in order to keep like your girl happy, I feel like you just need to keep up with the level of fitness in Spain. Like you don't need to be like Diesel. Diesel. The average Spanish guy just is regular.

[C]

Yeah, that's what saying I'm good. But they're getting into the fitness over there.

[A]

She doesn't want the average Spanish guy.

[C]

There's nothing about me. Average boy.

[A]

I would say you're below average height.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, 100%.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm actually average height.

[A]

I think below average height.

[C]

59 is average.

[B]

Based off what? Global average?

[C]

No, American average.

[B]

The American average, yeah.

[A]

I think your average lady boy. I think your average height for lady boy, you be a baddie, you are going to build like a lady boy, you be a baddie, you would be a baddy.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Right.

[C]

No, what you mean I'm topheavy. See, Bang.

[A]

Yeah, but that's what they go for. Like if you're in, if you get a lady boy, you don't want her to look like or him to look like a girl. Girl. Cuz you could just a girl, you want them to feel a little more masculine.

[C]

I don't think that's how it works, bro.

[A]

Of course, why not just have sex with a girl? You're paying them. It's a hooker. It's not like you can't just get a female hooker.

[C]

Yeah, but they go to Taiwan cuz the men and women look the same.

[A]

Thailand?

[B]

No, no, no, no, no.

[A]

Oh yeah, same Disney World. Disneyland? Same. Yeah, same. No, in all seriousness, I feel like they want a little bit more masculine. That's why they're doing it.

[B]

They want a little Christy Gnomes husband.

[A]

They want Christy Gnomes husband?

[B]

Yeah. That's all you really want. That's what you want.

[A]

Do you want the baddest lady boy? Why not just be with a lady lady?

[B]

Because you want the people.

[C]

They can't get a lady, so they get the ones that.

[A]

So. So this is the point that I was making. Once you're paying for sex, you can get anything.

[C]

I would think the bad lady ladies charge more than the lady boys.

[B]

They get a discount. They're like, oh, take the dick on a discount.

[A]

No, the dick costs extra. They pay more for the lady boy. Lady boy is more. Yes.

[C]

No, the currency is shit over there. Like it's mad cheap.

[A]

Yeah, but all things are al. You're getting a little over your head right now. All things are the same because you're paying for it over there no matter what. So you can get a lady girl or a lady boy.

[C]

I thought it's only lady boys doing prostitution over there.

[A]

No, wherever prostitution lives. You have all types of it.

[C]

Oh, okay. I thought like if you go there, you're going for lady boys.

[B]

No, this is that.

[A]

I think you're right.

[B]

This is next level trying to give it a spin. This is like the end stage. Gooners that are like, yeah, let's, let's try it out. That's what I think. They're going over there. They're like, I've always wanted to get one of these.

[A]

Let's.

[B]

Let's give it a girl.

[A]

I. I think it's tattoo. Like they're desensitized to everybody. Everything.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they like.

[C]

I want to ask one of these people, Miles, why do you go over?

[B]

I've never been over there.

[A]

Can we. That what an interview. Just like a lady boy connoisseur. Yeah. What would you rather. Would you rather the most beautiful lady boy indistinguishable from a lady girl or. Oh, oh, that's a.

[C]

That's. That's all right. Right.

[A]

All right. So her or the most beautiful lady boy you've ever seen? Her. And it's just head. You're just getting head. Her. Her.

[C]

You laughing. He goes, lady boy.

[B]

I know, cuz there's a 100% chance that girl has, like, a pretty hot black boyfriend.

[A]

Yeah, we can't give Al his ideal girl. That's unfair. That's unf.

[C]

They call me hot, so I'll take. I'll take the compliment. Now, I am a hot guy, but n. You go, you go lady boy, you go fat white.

[A]

There's a skinny Jamaican guy right behind. Like, why you looking at me, whale?

[C]

90 day fiat. You gotta. You gotta do what you gotta do.

[A]

You fit in, bro.

[C]

Do what you gotta do.

[A]

Oh, man, no.

[C]

But now, same question.

[B]

I mean, probably. I mean, one. Yeah, probably that one of them is a sin against God.

[A]

You know, don't bring religious. I hate you.

[C]

Yo.

[A]

Stop it.

[C]

Stop it. Make a decision. You going beluga whale or you going.

[B]

I wouldn't call them. I would just say they're. They're beautiful women.

[C]

So do you. A woman that looks like Andrew or lady boy.

[A]

Which one am I?

[C]

You know, with a little extra mid. You want a little extra. You see, that's Andrew body right there.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I give it a spin.

[C]

No, I'm not.

[B]

I'm not above it.

[A]

No, no. I mean, we've all taken down some big. You haven't taken out big.

[C]

You've taken a big.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's been big. Is a rite of passage. Low key, biggest right of pass.

[C]

You haven't lived big.

[B]

Do they have that in Taiwan?

[A]

Do they have big?

[B]

If I pull to Taiwan, I'm like, hey, I need. I need them.

[A]

You. Did you go red light districts when we were in Amsterdam? Did you walk it? You walked through it. They got big for six tail.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. That is. That makes me uncomfortable a little bit.

[A]

Which. The red light district.

[B]

Yeah. Just being in the window, just smacking on it.

[A]

I do not like it.

[B]

It's a lot, right?

[A]

I prefer being in there with them. No, no, it is. It does feel very weird.

[C]

And I remember walking through, we were

[A]

just like, feels weird.

[C]

And.

[B]

Yeah, Miles gave it a walk. He told us about it.

[C]

Now he went to the blue light.

[A]

What's that? Perfect. Lady Bo. Lady Bo walking through in like the.

[B]

The daytime.

[A]

The morning shift. Because you can see that, like, the nighttime shift cost more.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, there were. There were less attractive girls than the day shift. Yeah.

[B]

It's like the open mic. I mean, for real. This girl's kind of trying it out.

[C]

Damn. Why you on open mic is like that?

[B]

Everyone's got to start somewhere. You got to come up.

[A]

That is a good point.

[C]

Right?

[B]

Yeah, but they're Starting at like the 12 o' clock shift, you know what I mean? And then they work down at like 5, then they get prime time, you know, 10, 30, 11. That's what you're working towards.

[A]

What if, yeah, what if, if it

[C]

doesn't work out, you got open mic body right now.

[A]

No, he's not that crazy.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

He still doesn't look like a comedian. There's nothing more insulting than saying it's got to win, lose the body of a comedian.

[B]

Cuz if I get in terrible shape, I do think it'll help.

[A]

Oh, it's funnier, right?

[B]

It's way funnier. What's funny?

[A]

This guy know how to read his. This guy is insane. I'm about to get ripped to spite him.

[B]

Right. And you can just get on peptides

[A]

and this is what a good friend does.

[C]

I body shame you until you get in shape.

[A]

I need a get in shape.

[C]

That's what good friends are supposed to do.

[A]

But I also, I hate when you

[C]

guys say I look good.

[B]

We've never said that.

[A]

Yeah, we never, we never said that.

[C]

There you go, keep me motivated.

[A]

But I keep saying you're short. You haven't fixed that.

[C]

One day.

[A]

I try, I try.

[C]

One day I'll get the, the little extend.

[A]

Would you do the extendo?

[C]

No, not at all.

[A]

It's too much. It's like a year of your life of recovery.

[C]

Yeah, I'm not, I'm not that short.

[B]

You got advantage Max advantage. Maxing is.

[C]

What's this?

[B]

This is the clavicular thing.

[A]

Oh yeah. Where he's like if you bring a

[B]

girl to your p place and you're wearing lifts in your shoes, you take your shoes off. He's like by all means you got to keep your shoes on. So we lifted, stand, mix different spots where you can kind of elevate yourself. Yeah. And so you just, you put like a little book over here, put a little stool over here and you just kind of bounce from one to the other.

[A]

But there's nothing, there's nothing that you.

[C]

My wife is stuck.

[A]

You like had felt that you would do to fix your shortness.

[C]

No, I'm good.

[A]

But being like a short guy.

[C]

See the short. Don't bother. That he said earlier that is that touch you a little.

[B]

Wait, which one?

[C]

I don't know cuz we might cut it out so

[A]

we that kind. No, when he just mocks you. No, no, when you mock it like there is no. Oh, oh no. That guy looks crazy. I don't want to look like that. That's two.

[B]

Yeah, that would be sucked.

[C]

To look like that would be horrible.

[A]

Can't even do anything.

[B]

Yeah, right, right. It's not funny. Come on.

[C]

Nothing funny about it.

[A]

Yeah. Jeez. What else is going on in the world, guys? Things going on in the world. Hey, Alex, you had an interesting take about the Druski skit. You were. You thought it was wrong.

[C]

The.

[B]

That's interesting. I remember. I remember.

[A]

We were like, this is wrong and disrespectful. Yeah. To the whites.

[B]

To the whites of the world.

[A]

And we were like, no, it's comedy. You can say whatever the. You want.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm losing my mind.

[A]

You don't remember this?

[C]

I said this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You were like, this is wrong and disrespectful to white people. People who work so hard to give me my freedom.

[C]

Oh, if I said it, I'm standing on it. Yeah, it's up, bro.

[A]

Yeah, it's bad. Yo. White power. Okay. I mean, wait, do they.

[C]

Do they do the fist for white power? What do y' all do?

[B]

No, there's.

[C]

What do y' all do?

[B]

There's a very famous one that involved

[C]

not the straight hand, but, I mean, what else do y' all do at. White power means?

[B]

I don't know. The fist thing. I don't know if it doesn't really hit the same. You know, compared to what's just sun.

[C]

Oh, what's this? What you just did?

[B]

It's the hy. That. That one. You throw it out. You can't. I'm not gonna throw it out. Here.

[A]

That's great.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That's a classic. That's been going.

[A]

White power is, like. It's a little beneath us to say.

[B]

It's kind of bragging.

[A]

It's like dunking the. You know what I mean?

[B]

It's like garbage time buckets, you know?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like you're up 30, and you're gonna be like, we're in power. It's like, we know. Everybody knows. Like, it's not like any. Any white people that are doing that. It's kind of embarrassing. It's like. What is that thing called when you're like. It's when people are being, like, a little too loud. Like, old money people will say it about, like, new. But you're being g. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's a little gh.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, it's a little gh. Like, the whites that, like, say white power. Just like.

[B]

God, please stop saying it so loud. Don't talk.

[A]

Guys, guys.

[C]

Oh, that's. Yeah. Okay.

[A]

When don't you think those whites are saying it out of, like, pure insecurity? Don't you like, though?

[C]

I don't know. It just seems like y' all down bad right now. Like, whites ain't looking good right now.

[A]

No, no, no.

[C]

There's a lot of infighting. You got dumbasses like Jake Paul. He wants to do blackface. Like, he wants to come on our team now and like that.

[B]

So it's like he's switching up.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Y Damn bad.

[B]

That's permanent.

[C]

I think so. I'm pretty sure he's been, you know, spending time in Puerto Rico and like that. He wants to be Puerto Rican.

[A]

Yeah. They got white Puerto Ricans.

[C]

No, no.

[B]

You get a couple. Those are my favorite. Those, like a redhead dude that speak

[C]

perfect Spanish, but they're not speaking.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Mexican.

[B]

Yes. Type.

[C]

They're not.

[B]

They're not making me laugh.

[A]

You don't consider them white because of the ethnicity. There's probably mixed heritage.

[C]

Correct.

[A]

That's fair. That's an interesting thing about Latinos, where it's like. It's not the hue of the skin necessarily that makes you white or black to Americans, but within Latin culture.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

They might identify as white.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And they'd be. Right. So if their families from fucking Germany or whatever, fleeing, like, whatever they fled in the 1940s to Argentina, probably nothing bad at all. No reason why you would move to Argentina now. 1942. Yeah.

[C]

Better weather, but a lot of cultures do that.

[A]

So it was the weather. Who controls that? Okay.

[D]

All right.

[C]

I heard Asians call themselves white, bro.

[A]

Who is telling us that? Chris Moreau.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

H. Yeah. Like, what was he saying? What? What was. What was he saying?

[C]

I forgot in what context, But I learned that, yeah, you're not the only whites.

[B]

I can see it.

[C]

And actually, y' all the worst whites. They're better whites than y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

They white.

[A]

Wait, wait, wait. Explain that one to me. Better at what?

[C]

Like, they're doing better in the economy.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

More like they got more numbers than you.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Say more.

[A]

Hold on. Are there more? So the thing about whites, like, like, white, white. There's not really like a what? Like, we've kind of just started including a lot of people in.

[C]

In whiteness because you're down bad, so you recruit.

[A]

I wonder if it's down bad. I wonder if it's just, like, a whole thing. We just all made up first place. Right. I wonder if, like, they even talked about that. Like, if people in Spain and people from Britain were like, hey, we're Both white. Should we be together? I don't even know if that conversation was happening.

[C]

No, now you're doing the race as a social construct.

[B]

Like this guy,

[A]

let me live out, dude, let me live out. No, no. Like, I wonder if they didn't, like this whole time they're like, no, we're better because we're noble. And then Americans were like, oh, no, dude, you don't even have to be noble. You just got to have like a skin color. Like, why you trying so hard? Like that's all we need.

[C]

But they fought it for a while, cuz like the Irish and the Italians, they was, they wasn't.

[A]

So this is what I'm trying to say. It's like.

[C]

And then you're like, yo, let's, you

[A]

know, now everybody's down now, now here's the question. And this brings us to the looking alike conversation. Black people get this a lot. Asians get this a lot. That they look more similar. And then I hear reflexively, oftentimes black people will be like, oh, all white people look alike. Yeah, I think you could say like versions of white people look alike. You could be like, all blonde white people look alike. All brown haired white people look alike. But like in terms of a race of people, white people are the most diverse race. We're the only race that has different eye color, different hair color, different hair text, texture, different skin texture, different facial features, different ethnicities.

[C]

Stupid take.

[A]

White people are the most diverse race of people. It's just a fact. I'm sorry. Look at black people. Sorry.

[C]

We had the same guy, changed his race in his lifetime. Michael Jackson, until you have a Michael Jackson. Right now you have Rachel Dozal and she's not coming.

[A]

You're making a good point.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

And I will give you credit, credit for it.

[B]

You guys have a lot of range.

[A]

You guys have range. That vitiligo is a, it's an anomaly whites did not see coming.

[C]

Albino, Come on. We got purple, black and albino.

[A]

We got albino.

[C]

Yeah, but it's just like a half a shade different.

[A]

What? How lucky? How lucky? No, but if you talk about how lucky, you talk about diversity, but we're talking about like I'm winning a rare condition. What I'm talking about is without medical conditions, just purely what I would say is African diaspora. Not even just the diaphragm, but African in general. Like you go from Sudanese to West African, East African. And if you're including like the more like Arabic features that like the North Africans have. Yes, a lot of diversity there. Nobody would go like, oh, a Sudanese person looks just like a Moroccan person. I don't think. Right.

[C]

And now, for sake of his argument, I'm including South Africans.

[A]

Gang, gang. Now, we're not talking about race. Elon's black.

[B]

Elon's black. Elon's black.

[C]

Eli's black. For the sake of argument.

[A]

Hold on, hold on. Now, let me make this argument. Maybe. Maybe you could say that black people have the most diversity. If you're including Ethiopian, Somalia. What is that? The horn? Then you include, like, the Sudanese. You include Maghreb, like, North Africa. Then you include West Africa, Cameroon.

[B]

But you're describing Africa now.

[A]

Well, hold on, hold on. But then if you're including the Caribbean, now we have mixture of, like, native tribe. You also have mixture of black, and you have mixture of European, Spanish, Portuguese. Whoa. Now, we're talking about a lot of diversity over there. This is interesting.

[B]

But your point is that it's crazy that there's an Italian guy from Sicily and an Irish guy, and we're like, yeah, both white.

[A]

But I think you could probably make the same point for a Sudanese guy.

[B]

Blake Griffin.

[A]

And Blake Griffin. Boom.

[C]

Boom.

[B]

I need that.

[A]

Guys, I. I. Listen, I. I hate to live out on you guys right now, but it might just be a construct, dude. So should be. I hate to live out on you right now as we do this podcast. A few hours before the end of the world.

[B]

I know, right?

[A]

But before the world is over, it is cool that we came to the conclusion that we're really all the same.

[C]

We all the same. We just solved it.

[B]

We're all combined. We're all unified.

[A]

We're all unified.

[C]

Yeah. Pass the football. Press the button. So the nuclear football.

[A]

So are you guys mad at Drew Ski? I'm too dumb to know.

[B]

The nuclear football.

[C]

I have no idea what they just call the bag. The nuclear football.

[A]

No way.

[B]

Yeah. From back in the day.

[A]

Explain this. Explain this. No, this is fun.

[B]

They would say, like, oh, the president currently has the nuclear football, like, during, like, missile crash.

[A]

Like a suitcase that carries around with the codes.

[B]

Yes, suitcase with the code and a key, and another guy had to have one.

[C]

This person follows him everywhere. Everywhere he goes.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know why they call it that, though.

[C]

Yeah, I don't know why they call it that. But this person follows him wherever he goes, Wherever the president is, this person's not far behind.

[A]

And even when he's just, like, giving conversations or only when we're in, like, real time of that amount, 100% sure,

[B]

it's a nickname after an early classified nuclear war plan called Dropkick because a football was required to do a drop kick. So the name for the briefcase holding the launch option stuck, gaining popularity in the 60s.

[A]

The official name is the Presidential Emergency Set Natural. So. And can you ask if it goes with the President everywhere he goes, even when we're not involved in a crazy conflict? I mean, it must, it must, right? Because like, God forbid some other country sends a nuke over here, we gotta do something.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Let me, let me ask you guys this question. You're the President of the United States. Okay, you hear that a nuclear bomb is being sent over, or like tons of nuclear bombs are being sent over and we don't have some sort of mechanism to stop it.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Let's, let's assume we don't. We don't have Patriot missiles or whatever that can like, shoot it out of the sky. I, I don't know what the technology is, but let's say they're all coming and it's assured death and destruction.

[C]

I just saw like a decent movie about this. I just can't remember the name of the movie, but keep going.

[A]

Sorry, this exact.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And okay, my question to you is, you could hit the button that does the same thing to them. Do you end humanity in that way moment, or is there a part of you that goes, I wish it didn't get here, but it's not going to make it better if no humans no longer exist. Like, yeah, you want to get your. Get back and they all took you out, but the end is there's no more humans. Do you hit the button or do you let humanity continue? And do you hope that eventually human beings, you know, can elect leaders that, you know, will care more about our existence and the proliferation of humanity?

[C]

This isn't the American hoorah answer, but not on battle and strike back. Japan. Look at them now. Like, they didn't hit us back and now we're cool.

[B]

Yeah. Grant, they didn't have a nuke.

[A]

They didn't have a nuke. But. Yes, but I'm sure they could have.

[C]

Do they have one now? They still.

[B]

Japan's like, the biggest proponent of denuclear militarization. Like, anytime anyone does a nuclear test, Japan, like, sends him a letter like, yo, chill, bro. Yeah, they're all over.

[C]

As they should. Yeah, but then they should have, like, the most. I would tell everybody, like, yeah,

[A]

wait,

[B]

hold up, wait for me.

[A]

But yeah, so, okay, so you don't. And yeah, the reason is not that you don't want to defend your people. Obviously, the reason is that this ends all people.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So what is the advantage? Okay, okay, Mark. It's a tough if a tough one because it feels like you're being a. Not defending your country does feel like that. But you end humanity if you also do it.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, for the sake of humanity, you probably shouldn't.

[A]

But, like, I even think that I'm putting this question on you guys because it's like it. Yeah.

[B]

For the sake of humanity, you probably shouldn't have a nuke at all. Like, no one should have a nuke. Agree.

[A]

But this is hypothetical.

[B]

Yeah, I know, but I'm like, you're probably not for the sake of humanity

[A]

candidate, and is this where, like, you know, you're not a very religious guy, but, like, is this where having some belief system is advantageous for being in positions of power where you. No, wait, wait.

[C]

I would say no, because I don't. I don't think it makes a difference because you see people and like Heath, right now, using religion.

[A]

Biblical. Yeah.

[C]

So it's like, I don't think that's

[A]

right, because you could also use that for whatever justification, which is what humans have done throughout history.

[C]

It's all about your own moral.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I guess. Yeah, you're right.

[B]

Also, if you're religiously predisposed to pacifism, like, if you're like a Quaker or

[A]

some shit, and then anybody can kind of do whatever they want to. And now you're putting your people at a disadvantage.

[B]

That's the thing, right?

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is a tricky question, right? It's like, you want to defend your people, it's your job to defend your people, but at the same time, you're ending human. I don't know if I could end humanity any. Dude,

[B]

that should be whack, right?

[A]

I mean, maybe there's part of you, like, yo, maybe some of us make it out. I mean, some probably would fall out.

[B]

Some probably would. You kind of live in a bunker type. Type nuclear winter. You post up, eat some protein bars.

[A]

How quick are you coming out that bunker?

[C]

What you mean?

[A]

Like, let's say we made it into the bunker. Nuclear holocaust. We talked to other people in the bunkers and they're like, yo, you got to stay down. It's radioactive waste up there. You can't go out there. You're going to be merked immediately if you're out there. Yeah, yeah. How long? You really believe you could be like, oh, no, I I'mma hold my breath, but I'm going to go out. Like, I'm going to put my energy.

[C]

I start eating humans before I go

[A]

out there

[C]

or send a few out first.

[B]

No, there's going to be fires and everywhere. If you're not in the blast zone, then there might not be a ton of nuclear radiation, but there's going to be fires. It can be nuclear winter. Can't grow any crops or anything. So you might be like, walk around. But then it's chaos. There's no infrastructure, no government. So they're just bandits trying to steal all your.

[A]

But isn't there a part of you? It's like, I need to be outside, bro. I can't just look up through this window. You need to go outside for 15 minutes.

[B]

This is like New Yorkers. Like, New Yorkers. Like, yeah, bro, we got to be outside.

[C]

That's white people.

[A]

Nah, black people going to be outside. No, we not black people going to be outside.

[C]

Yeah, I play with wild animals and like that. Y' all like that type of you. There's a nuclear bomb just went off. You want to go outside and hold your breath?

[A]

If we're being honest? Cool. The majority of people playing with wild animals probably look more like.

[B]

Like you.

[C]

No, they grew up with them

[D]

in the world.

[C]

Stop it.

[A]

The majority of people probably look more like you.

[C]

Nope, I don't think so.

[A]

And y' all never left, cuz. You're like, there's no wild animals over there. You know what I mean? Like, you were like, yo, what's Rome about? What? No wild animals. I'm not going over there.

[C]

I don't think so. I don't think we play with them.

[A]

White people hated wild animals the most. That's why they went places where there's no wild animals. And we domesticated the out of us. We made them not wild. We wilded them.

[C]

No, because y' all pay the most.

[A]

No,

[C]

actually, y' all pay the most to go back to Africa to see these wild animals in person.

[A]

It's like camping. It's just camping. It's like, you don't do it forever.

[C]

Yeah, but y' all are forcing the black people to be around the white animals just so you could see them from a little.

[A]

We're not forcing.

[B]

Forcing them.

[C]

What do you mean you're forcing them?

[B]

What should we do? Take them away from there? We tried that. That was. That was bad. That was bad is what I'm saying. We got to keep them there. We got to keep them. Unless they want to leave in which case, they can apply for immigration. But regardless, you got to keep them there. It's their place.

[A]

It's their place.

[B]

It's technically their place. And we could take the animals. Why don't we try that? Why don't we just take the animals over?

[A]

Dude, that would have been a way better idea.

[B]

The rhinos. Give me the rhinos.

[C]

Nah, I just like shooting them for fun.

[A]

Okay, there is a.

[C]

What is that?

[B]

I don't know. The big game.

[A]

Yeah, I look this up.

[C]

What's that?

[A]

Well, you know, it was you. It was a like, it play. It's no different than, like, the big game. I don't know, but it's probably like porn where, like, you kill enough deer, you're like, I need to kill some real. But, like, I. I think it does play into, like, primal urges, right? Like, you know, camping or being out the nature. Hunting your own food. Like, you must get some sort of, like, dopamine response.

[B]

Hunting fire. Hunting is cool. Fishing, getting a deer or some. Yeah, but like, finding a lion that's running around. A big old lion that's. Oh, there. It's endangered.

[A]

No, this is important thing. It's like you desensitize to the. To the deer.

[B]

So, yeah, you need a lady lion.

[A]

A lady lady lion.

[C]

But eventually you get tired and deer, the boars and all that. You going to want to step it up.

[B]

You want a lady boar?

[A]

Hunting bo is wacky. A lady bo.

[B]

Lady bo.

[C]

Keep your boy Rogan out of Africa. Lady Bo.

[A]

Lady bo.

[B]

Keep.

[C]

Keep Rogan out of Africa.

[A]

Why? He does. He's going to hunt them?

[C]

No, I'm just saying that's going to be his next step. Now he doesn't even use guns. He just bows and arrow. Eventually he's going to get bored with that.

[A]

I respect the bow and arrow.

[B]

That's way more impressive than a gun.

[A]

That's way more impressive.

[C]

It's more impressive. But once he gets bored with that, then what?

[B]

Then you just go down. You can make the delta bigger here. Hunt an elf. Hunt the elk with a Swiss arm. Swiss arm.

[C]

Oh, that's cork. Corkscrew.

[B]

Is there anybody who does that?

[A]

Now, what's that?

[C]

Is there any, like, person online that hunts animals with, like, a knife?

[A]

That's funny.

[B]

The fork is.

[A]

Fork is crazy. Like, no, there gotta be. Yeah, I mean, you see people do

[C]

it with like, that shit would be fine.

[A]

You see people do it with the fish. They'll like, spear. You ever seen that? They'll basically take, like a spear and they'll throw Fish is kind of easy, but an animal that can kind of fight back. That's some ballsy white people do that.

[B]

People bore him with knives. I've seen that.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I don't.

[A]

The board thing doesn't impress me at all.

[C]

No, they don't. They're scary.

[A]

They're scary, but like, to me it's just like miles, bro, they're built like play. No, they're more sturdy.

[C]

You didn't deserve that. You didn't deserve that.

[A]

You said they're building me.

[C]

Yeah, that's fire. They're strong as. Okay, yeah, he's go turn it into the company.

[B]

I appreciate it. This how you hunt a board?

[A]

So hold on.

[B]

Rewind a little. Oh, oh, oh. Loud.

[A]

No. This makes me sad.

[B]

Damn, they just murdered him. Well, rewind a little bit, though. It's kind of crazy that they catch them and they make them do a wheelbarrow so you get the dog on them. The dog.

[C]

If the dog got him first, that don't count.

[B]

Like they. They do like a wife carry. You seen that competition?

[C]

That's how you carry your wife, bro.

[B]

You haven't seen the wife carry competitions.

[A]

I saw at the Riyadh Comedy Festival, they were doing that.

[C]

You know, we shoot. We try.

[A]

We try. Know it seems like something you do

[B]

there something I missed it. This right here, that's why they carrying that hog. You never seen these.

[C]

Damn. The back of their neck just smell like fish.

[B]

They do an obstacle course with their girl hanging over them shoulders.

[C]

Oh, nah, he cheating. Why? He's doing well.

[B]

No, it's actually harder.

[A]

Any way that you can get your wife across the line, this is the easier way.

[B]

Oh, splashing them and.

[A]

Nah, this is crazy.

[C]

Yo, you see white people, like, why there's not a black in sight.

[A]

This right here. This right here. Let me tell you something. That's white power. That is white power.

[C]

Well, keep the power, cuz that is

[A]

lame as I'm just what you're. Once you guys get it, you're going to start doing shit just like this. When you don't have to think about getting power, you can think of these crazy games. Like, what if I just held my wife upside down and we ran around. This is. It's pure boredom from just being in power for centuries, thousands of years.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Also, there's a fair amount like you could. You could fall on purpose if your wife's been annoyed. You could bounce her up and down, you know, make her hat.

[C]

Wow, that was dark.

[A]

You're. You're evil. Evil guy dark.

[D]

You're an evil.

[C]

Went there and crazy. You don't even got a girl yet. That's crazy. You're right.

[A]

You're an evil guy, Miles. The fact that you could even think. Think that your wife who trusts you.

[B]

I don't have a wife, so.

[A]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[C]

Go to Saudi Arabia with that.

[A]

Damn. Damn. So political.

[C]

Oh, that's.

[B]

Yeah, this black guy there's. What, Al?

[C]

That's an Obama.

[B]

What do you mean?

[C]

He's close to. Yeah, yeah, I might complain.

[B]

Yo, look, they got one. See? Like what?

[A]

Al just admitted that Obama is close to one white. You don't let that go.

[C]

Yeah, he is. I think he's closer to white than he is to black.

[B]

And why do you think that? H. Why do you think that?

[C]

I think he's has more white in him.

[A]

I think he was raised by his mother.

[C]

Yeah. You know he's raised white in Hawaii. How. Or whatever the.

[B]

Might be a H. You might be a howly brother.

[C]

Nah, let me not. I take that back. All right. I still like.

[A]

Oh, wait, would you not like him if he was white?

[C]

Y' all have your days.

[B]

You have white fatigue. What is this?

[D]

What is this?

[A]

What is this white animosity that we're feeling?

[C]

I love white people.

[A]

While you wear a Harley Davidson shirt.

[B]

It's Godspeed.

[A]

Oh, yeah. It's Godspeed.

[C]

Godspeed.

[A]

Godspeed.

[C]

No, no, I love the whites.

[D]

It's just.

[C]

We having fun.

[A]

We having fun.

[C]

We can't have fun.

[A]

Yo, did you know that not to make things, like, very political. Yeah, but did you know that Kanye, I don't even think is going to be allowed to go to the uk?

[B]

Yeah, I think he got banned officially today. Yeah, he was supposed to headline wireless

[C]

for three nights and now they canceled wireless.

[B]

Canceled the whole festival. Crazy.

[C]

Yeah, because a lot of the sponsors were pulling out because ye was going to perform and now ye's pulling out. So now they lost their sponsors.

[A]

Well, I don't think ye pulled out. I think the country.

[B]

The sponsors pulled out and then the government blocked also. So. Yeah, and yeah, without the sponsors, they're still going to do it, but the sponsor said the anti Semitism they couldn't co sign. Yeah, one of the sponsors was PayPal,

[A]

which is Keep going.

[C]

Keep going.

[B]

That's a fact. That's just a data point, but just keep going.

[A]

But where? Why would you bring that sponsor up specifically because it's one of the sponsors that pulled out.

[B]

What are you implying?

[A]

I don't know. I'm just trying to Ask what your.

[C]

What your brain is being kind of right now.

[B]

Well, I'm just saying that's one of the sponsors was PayPal, and PayPal said, we're not going to condone this.

[A]

And what else does PayPal.

[C]

Why stop you, bro?

[B]

I'm just. I'm. I don't know what you guys are wanting me to say right now. I'm just putting that out there.

[C]

Why'd you point out PayPal, not any of the other sponsors?

[A]

Yeah. Diageo.

[B]

I never heard that one. What is Diagio? Is that a multi. It's a beverage leader.

[A]

And PayPal, Pepsi. You didn't bring that one up?

[B]

I didn't know Pepsi. I didn't know that these ones I just heard about PayPal.

[A]

So.

[C]

Want to hurt him?

[B]

But. Yeah, the wireless is canceled. But you saw the concert in. In Sofi, right?

[A]

That look fire Ain't going to lie look fire. That should look fire. It look.

[B]

I wouldn't have gone, but it looked fire.

[A]

It looked fire.

[B]

Being there must have been crazy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Right. Which you wouldn't have supported him.

[B]

I wouldn't have gone.

[A]

Can't.

[C]

You can't. You can't support anti Semites.

[B]

You can't. But if you were there, that would be can't. Crazy.

[A]

Can't support a guy who sold a swastika shirt.

[B]

That's.

[A]

Yeah, that's crazy. I don't even think Hitler sold them. Yeah. You know, he said he was like, handing them out. I don't think he was, like, profiting off of them.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And he said slavery was a choice. Can't support a guy like that.

[B]

It was a choice.

[C]

Whoa.

[A]

Well, white people chose. Yeah. White people's choice.

[B]

Which is bad. I agree.

[D]

We should.

[C]

Maybe that's what he meant.

[B]

We should have chosen.

[C]

All this time we took about a

[B]

context banger Joseph to do that. Yeah.

[A]

He just needed to clarify it was a choice by some really bad people.

[B]

Bad people.

[A]

Some bad actors.

[C]

Yo, he could turn that around right now. He might be able.

[A]

He could walk back that one. He could walk back that one. Yeah.

[C]

Fantastic.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Like, whoa. If you saw that in person, it's fire.

[A]

If you did. But you wouldn't, obviously, because it was

[C]

crazy because they were live streaming it in black and white and I don't get it. But because, like, you want pictures of the color one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You saw pictures?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How good were the pictures?

[C]

It's great. Well, PayPal didn't support it.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

They weren't one of the sponsors.

[A]

Why weren't they one of the sponsors? Yeah, of this.

[B]

Why you need a sponsor for a private concert where you sell tickets? That makes no sense, dumbasses.

[C]

I mean, they sell tickets to the. Damn it.

[A]

You gotta snap to get your brain to work.

[C]

I know.

[A]

Like, it's a shitty tv. Come on, come on.

[C]

Start Festival UK something.

[A]

Damn, bro.

[C]

Damn,

[A]

that looked good.

[B]

Trying to get your God speed to start.

[D]

It's not starting.

[B]

It did look good.

[A]

Did you guys watch the whole thing?

[B]

I didn't. I just saw clips.

[A]

I saw clips pop up without me even looking into it online. Like, I didn't. I didn't even click on the clips they show. They just came up in my feed.

[B]

This was in LA, which is crazy that he sold out two SoFi stadiums. 80,000 people.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I think this is the best stage, probably all time.

[A]

N Taylor Swift.

[C]

Nah, come on.

[A]

Taylor Swift was crazy, bro.

[C]

Like, look at this.

[A]

At the end of the day, he's just on a ball, right? Like, at the end of the day, it's nice when you just see the clips of it, but you don't think two hours later you're like, I get it, you're on a ball.

[B]

No, but Taylor's on this whole time.

[C]

Fascinating.

[A]

That's a cute. Taylor is swimming.

[B]

Everyone's on different shapes.

[A]

She's swimming at one point in time.

[B]

Okay, well, she jumps into the.

[A]

Jumps into the water. You see her swimming outfit change mid swim, pop out the other side. Look at this. This swim. Oh, she's swimming and she's swim. Kanye ain't got this.

[C]

I didn't know this happened. This is actually kind of cool.

[A]

Yeah, this is sick.

[C]

This is kind of cool. I'll give it to her.

[A]

She's going to pop out the other

[B]

side a different outfit.

[D]

That's fire.

[C]

Yeah, that's kind of.

[A]

That's kind of dope. And that's just one little piece.

[B]

And you see why Kanye tried to suppress her success.

[A]

Of course he did. He knew. Yeah, he knew. He saw an unstoppable force.

[C]

And then he's kind of biting things. Taylor, because I think they use the same technology.

[A]

Hey, hey, Al, speak on it.

[C]

Yeah. I don't support anti Semites.

[A]

Neither do I. No. All right, guys, take a break for a second. Listen, fellas, around 37 years old, okay, things start changing. Start watching a lot of reality TV housewife shows. Why is that? Why is that, fellas? I'll tell you why. It's because that testosterone starts dying dipping, okay, around 1% a year. And here's a part you up even when your body is making testosterone, a lot of it gets locked up by this protein called shbg. So it's like having money in your account but your car doesn't work. It's just sitting there doing nothing. And that's why you got to start taking that. Mars Men right here. The Mars Men. No synthetics, no needles. Eight natural. Natural, clinically dosed ingredients. Tongkat, Ali, shilajit, Vitamin D, zinc, boron. Made in the usa. Third party tested the whole shebang. And look, I'm telling you, you're gonna notice it. Workouts, they start feeling like workouts again. Recovery improved. And the energy, it's not just like a little coffee spike. It's steady throughout the day. Like you feel like yourself again. They got a 90 day money back guar guarantee, so there's literally no risk. Worst case, you don't love it. You get your money back. But over 91% of users report higher energy levels. Go check out the reviews yourself. Thousands of guys are feeling it. So for a limited time, you can get 50 off for life, free shipping and three gifts@ Mengotomars.com that's Mengotomars.com it's also on Amazon. And when you check out, they'll ask where you heard about us. Please tell them that we sent you. It supports the show. Also, guys, don't lose your hair. What are we talking about here? Do I have to even convince you of that? It's a choice. Now HIMS is going to help that not happen. You can keep your hair. You can even grow some back. It worked for me. I was lucky. I got in early. I saw a little patch back in my 20s. I was like, I'm not letting this happen. I get on it. HIMS offers convenient access to a range of prescription hair loss treatments with ingredients that work, including chews, oral medications, serums and sprays. Dr. Trusted ingredients like finasteride and minoxidil can stop further hair loss. Did for me. And regrow hair as little three to six months did for me. You shouldn't have to go out of your way to feel like yourself. Hims brings expert care straight to you with 100% online access to personalized treatment plans that put your goals first. No hidden fees, no surprise cost, just real personalized care on your schedule. Think of HIMS as your daily digital front door that gets you back to your old self with simple 100% online access to trusted treatments for real health concerns all in one place. For simple online access to personalized and affordable care for hair loss weight loss and more. Visit hims.comflagrant that's hims.comflagrant for your free online visit hims.com flagrant featured products include compounded drug products which the FDA does not approve for verify for safety, effectiveness or quality. Percentage prescription required. See website for full details, restrictions and important safety information. Individual results may vary based on studies of topical and oral minoxidil and finasteride. Now, before we get back to the show, I do need to tell. While we're talking about hymns and being ham, my cowi streak has continued. I just want to let you know I am so far undefeated on cow. I try to, you know, share my picks with the people.

[B]

But what's this person the streak?

[A]

I have not lost yet. Trading on Cali. I just picked Michigan. I won again.

[B]

Wait, so what are your. What are your picks so far? You did Michigan. What else?

[A]

Bad Bunny.

[B]

You voted on bad Bunny?

[A]

No, I picked the first song in the super bowl halftime show. It's pretty down.

[B]

What song was it?

[A]

And then what. What other one? I don't know. I forgot it already.

[B]

But three.

[A]

Three for three. What was the other ones? What was it?

[D]

Oscars.

[A]

Oh, the Oscars, obviously. Pick Michael B. Jordan.

[B]

Damn.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

My point is race trader. I did. I care about greatness. One thing about me, I care about greatness. I appreciate it. So. But no, I'm just telling you. And a lot of people have asked me, like, how do I know? You just pick the winner. It's not that difficult. Like, there's multiple choices. You pick the winning one and then. Then you win.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know why that's difficult for some people. Like, there are people that lose for some reason.

[B]

Well, I guess I don't like. With this, for example, I don't know who's going to win. Like Yukon or Michigan.

[A]

Well, it's already happened. So you do know who won?

[C]

Are you?

[A]

Yes, he is.

[B]

Well, I didn't know before, is what I'm saying. I didn't know before.

[A]

Yes, he is.

[B]

How do you know who's going to win before it happens? You're making it seem very simple. I mean, I guess you could, like, check the line and be like, oh, most people think Michigan is going to win.

[C]

No, you just pick the winner.

[A]

You pick the winner of it. Like, there's one. Listen how things work. There's a winner and a loser. Okay. Right. You pick the winner and then you win.

[C]

Simple.

[A]

So what I do is I pick the win. I can't believe it's even A real thing. I. I don't even. I can't believe this even exists. So what I do is that I'll look at the trades and I'll be like, oh, that's the winner. And then I pick that one. And so far, I haven't lost because I'm just picking the winning trade.

[C]

Okay, you get it now?

[B]

I think I'm getting.

[A]

Do you understand it? Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, for example, this one, Michigan has 100 chance to win.

[A]

Well, yeah, yeah, they won already, but I picked Michigan even before they won because that was the winner. Same reason why I picked it. I picked that one because I was like, oh, that's the winning. So that's the first song. That's the one that's going to win. So I just picked the winners. And then I tell people that's only

[B]

the time that I bet on Izzy when he was fighting Ferreira in the one with the. The. Yeah, with the bow and arrow. Yeah. And this is the first time I've ever made a prediction.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That I said he was going to win by knockout and.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

And win by decision.

[C]

Oh, so you just hedged it back.

[A]

So you had. You made two different trades. You're saying.

[B]

I don't know exactly what. I did one.

[C]

And it canceled out, and so he just broke even.

[B]

Exactly. I gave them money. I gave them, like, I think 10 bucks or something like that.

[A]

So. So I won the.

[B]

The knockout one.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

But then I lost on the decision one, and then I gave him.

[C]

So you see what you did wrong there?

[B]

Yeah, I. I picked the winner, but I also picked the wrong thing about.

[A]

You got to only pick the winner, right? Yeah, yeah. If you just pick the winner, then you'll win.

[B]

But I picked the winner twice. That. That. I guess if you go twice and it doesn't count.

[A]

No, you didn't pick the winner because he didn't win by decision. He won by knockout.

[C]

So you picked the lose.

[B]

Yeah, you.

[A]

You also picked the loser. Oh, shit. Don't do that.

[B]

So only pick one or never pick the.

[C]

Why is this that difficult? You're usually smart.

[A]

Why? This is why this exists. Because there's people like Mark out there that will pick the losing one. Like there are people, I'm sure, that picked Yukon. That was the losing one.

[C]

Guys at home, please.

[A]

Pick the winner. Pick the winner one. This is very sensitive.

[B]

And only the winner.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, you can bring up anything, and I'll tell you what the winner will be, because I'll just go, oh, that's the winner. And then I'll pick it.

[C]

Iran.

[A]

I don't do politics, guys. No politicians.

[B]

All right, what about Tesla delivers in Q1 of 2026.

[A]

What is it? What are the options?

[B]

Well, obviously, it's 34,000. Wait, 340,000.

[A]

340 million.

[B]

40,000. 340,000 or 35.

[A]

How many cars you think they're going to deliver? 350,000.

[B]

I can't read numbers.

[A]

I need to research this a little bit more. I want to mess up my streak on this right now, but if I research it a little bit more, I'll just tell you which one is the winner.

[B]

Is bitcoin going to hit a. When will Bitcoin cross 100 again?

[A]

In the future. Good winner.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Is there.

[B]

Is there a market for. In the future?

[A]

Yeah, if there's. That's the winner. If in the future, probably you predict that.

[C]

Is that an option before October?

[A]

This October? Yeah. Where's it at right now?

[B]

21%.

[A]

No, no. What? What? How much is bitcoin right now?

[C]

I think it's like 68. Something like 69.

[A]

Nah.

[B]

Nope.

[C]

All right, guys, that's the winner.

[A]

That's the winner. We get to check back in October. That'll be fun. Yeah, we'll check back. Shel said it anyway. Can we get back to the show, please? There's a story on the Internet that has consumed Americans, maybe even Canadians.

[C]

Wait a minute. Where are you going with this?

[A]

I'm just saying. Oh, it is. It is a pretty big story. I. No, no, nothing about it. Al kind of knows a little bit about it.

[B]

I know nothing about it.

[A]

You know nothing about it?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Luckily, we have an expert at the office.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

That can break this story down.

[C]

Oh, yes.

[A]

The story revolves around a reality show called Summer House.

[C]

Best show on television right now.

[A]

Al claims is the best show on television is a reality show that takes place in the Hamptons. And I think some, like, people in there, their. I don't know, 20s, 30s, they. They go there and they live the summer in the Hamptons. And then, yep, shenanigans ensue.

[C]

I never seen an episode. But our good friend Alex, there's some

[A]

real drama about it. And then our good friend White Alex is going to come onto the pod and she is going to break down this unbelievable saga. Give it up for White Alex, everybody. Alex in the. Let's go, Michigan.

[D]

Don't believe my mic is not on.

[A]

Oh, we gotta get your mic on.

[D]

I don't know how to do.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

And she's with us. Arcs. Do you have her?

[C]

Yep, she's back.

[B]

We got White Alex. What's up? White Alex.

[A]

White Alex.

[D]

You could not have set this up worse.

[A]

Why?

[D]

Hour and a half of race talk. What am I coming into?

[A]

Why. Why is there, Is there like a racial dynamic in this draw?

[D]

Yes, actually.

[B]

Wait, really?

[D]

No way.

[A]

Okay, so we're perfectly situated to talk about it.

[D]

Go blue. Go blue. Go blue. Say it back.

[A]

Go blue.

[B]

Go blue.

[D]

Go blue.

[A]

Michigan one.

[C]

Wait, we talking about blue square or what? Blue. Are we talking.

[B]

She says the same thing.

[D]

Michigan.

[B]

She said Michigan and blue square is actually the same.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Actually kind of true. That is true. All the, all the Jews from New York that don't get into Ivy League schools end up going to Michigan. That's true.

[D]

Feels pointed, but I'm in both diasporas.

[A]

Are you going to sit down or are you going to stand up?

[D]

Well, what do you want?

[C]

I have this.

[A]

Sit down.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So that you wear. You're framed up in the camera. But then I also would like you to reference this whenever you want.

[D]

Okay. And I also have these for you guys.

[A]

So.

[D]

Yeah, so you can really understand.

[B]

Someone said this is the Epstein files for women.

[D]

It really is, because it keeps going. Like.

[A]

Can you give us a quick backdrop of what this show is?

[C]

Teach these idiots you called into AM Boardings. I'm so. I have, I have too much knowledge, so I have to, you know, step out of this.

[D]

We had to warm up.

[C]

Teach these idiots, you know.

[D]

Okay. My pointer. Basically, you don't know anything about the show at all.

[A]

I, I, if I'm being honest with you, and I think I told you this yesterday, I thought Summer House was the show that Barstool did with the chicken leg girl and then the other people.

[D]

No, that's.

[C]

There's a girl with a chicken leg

[A]

that works at Bark Bar. No, she's like a chicken fry.

[D]

She will come up in this story as well.

[A]

She's only.

[D]

No, no. She's just involved in the drama with Portnoy. But that's like chapter 15.

[A]

You got to start at number one. Start us at the beginning. What is the show?

[D]

Summer House is a Bravo show. Okay, you're familiar with Bravo, of course.

[A]

The Goat. Andy Cohen, Every Housewife show.

[B]

Traders.

[D]

Yes, Traders. Traders. Sierra was actually on Trader used to be the Kardashians. No, Kardashians was E. All right, but

[A]

he was involved in E, wasn't he?

[D]

Andy Cohen, Maybe like early. Early. But Bravo, NBC has been like, its own thing, okay? Its own thing now on Peacock.

[A]

Now On Peacock.

[D]

Just a walking advertisement promoting. Okay, okay. So it's a show. Show where these people live in New York, technically have jobs like Monday through Thursday, but now it's kind of become like more influencers. Like, it's not true. Like working people, I would say. They have a shorthouse in the Hamptons. They drive out there on Fridays, they party all weekend. They drive back on Sunday. They have like planned parties. They go out to the bars out there. You guys know about the bars out there? Yes, I know less about that. Basically they just go and they started 10 years ago. It's kind of closest to like Real World or whatever Theo was on. Whatever Road Rules.

[B]

But Real World.

[A]

Real World would probably be this. Because this is the house before my time.

[D]

Yes, this is my Real World.

[A]

Yes. Okay.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

So Kyle, can I ask one question? These are not married couples. And they're not even couples in many cases.

[C]

They're married. Come on.

[A]

But the show and its ethos where.

[D]

Yeah, no, it's just a friend group. It's just a friend group. It starts. Started with this couple. Kyle. No, Kyle and Amanda. Carl and Lindsay. Carl and Lindsay had a big breakup of their engagement like three years ago.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

But now they're friends.

[C]

Got it.

[B]

And is there a point to the show? Do you win?

[A]

Yeah. No, no, no.

[D]

There's no game. There's no like love goal. Like you're not like going to find people a person. Just people living drama, fighting. Like they throw fun parties where they dress up.

[A]

Hookups. Maybe there's hookups.

[D]

That's the bread and butter is the hookups. Is the like single people in the city. 30 year old media.

[A]

How popular is this show compared to like Real Housewives of Orange county or Salt Lake City or Beverly?

[D]

Salt Lake is very powerful the last couple of years. I'd say Salt Lake's like the king. But Summerhouse is unique and my favorite because it's the only one where you have girls. Girl behavior. Like housewives. It's mostly just like ladies screwing each other over. This is like 30 year olds like being real people kind of.

[A]

Oh, so they're not leaning into the archetypes as much?

[D]

No, Housewives is usually like pretty like throwing wine at each other.

[A]

Yeah. We're here to cause drama and we're getting emotionally unstable. People that don't really do a lot of self reflection.

[D]

These are like therapies throwing somethings who are influencers. Like that's interesting to me because they're

[A]

also looking at their career in terms of like, I don't want to be known as a crash out. I want to be.

[D]

Exactly. You might remember Paige DeSorvo and Hannah Burner came from.

[A]

We know Hannah is a crash comedian. And then Paige is her podcast co host.

[D]

Yes. Giggly Squad.

[B]

They were on the show.

[D]

They were on the show. They start Giggly Squad together. That's how they got their followings. And Giggly Squad, Bravo is like. You can't talk about Bravo. Like, just make another podcast. Meanwhile, best decision for them ever in the world. Now they tour Giggly Squad, and Paige is laughing all the way to the bay.

[A]

I did not know about them in terms of that show. I only knew about them as comedians.

[D]

They're in the podcast.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And they're also funny and charming and amazing, like, pages.

[C]

Yeah, they're awesome.

[D]

So they come from Summer House.

[A]

So it's a launching pad for.

[D]

It's a launching pad.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

We're going to talk about you getting me on Summer House after this.

[A]

Okay, Gotcha.

[D]

Okay, okay.

[A]

We got this. We got this. Okay.

[D]

All right.

[A]

So what's the drama?

[D]

The drama, okay. Kyle is an OG. He's been there for 10 years.

[A]

Damn.

[D]

She. Amanda comes on season one as, like, a girl that's sleeping with Kyle. By season two, she joins the show as a cast member as Kyle's girlfriend. They've been together since then. They get married in 2021. So this. I actually have some markers. This is.

[A]

Love it.

[D]

A married couple.

[A]

Yeah. Got it. Okay.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

So their marriage, like, they shouldn't have got married. Like, he was cheating before they get engaged, he stays out really late. She likes to stay in and smoke weed. That's like, her vibe. Also, Paige, they were like the bedbugs. They don't like to go out, but Kyle is, like, staying out with fans. Like, comes home at 6:30am like, that's kind of his vibe.

[A]

He's a DJ.

[D]

That's.

[B]

Oh, he's a DJ.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

He wasn't always. He just become a DJ in the last couple months because he's in, like, strife financially with his failing alcohol Seltzer company.

[A]

What? The Seltzer Company.

[D]

It's called Lover Boy. He's actually using this all to, like, promote it.

[A]

Fire.

[D]

Um, so, okay, they were married. What we're seeing on this season that they filmed in summer 2025. So, like, we know things have happened since then, but we're still watching, like, what's going on in now, we're like, early August, their marriage falling apart. He's getting so drunk. He's yelling at Her. He's saying fudge you at parties. He's being like, why are you skinny dipping with everyone? Meanwhile they've all been.

[A]

She's skinny dipping with other guys.

[D]

They've all been in this friend group forever and they do skinny dip at the end of every season.

[C]

Kind of crazy.

[D]

Fourth of July, this. She just jumped in the pool in her bra and underwear and he's like tweaking about it with other guys. Yes. But everyone's clothes. She's just in a bra and underwear. It's not even skinny dipping.

[A]

And she's see through.

[D]

It's not the most.

[A]

With all.

[D]

With all due respect, he looks embarrassing. Like policing what she can do. Meanwhile, he's just really tight that they are like bitter and hate each other. And it's like, you know when your girlfriend like hates you and you know, it's like time to.

[A]

We're married. We don't know anything about this. There's no hate at all coming towards.

[B]

But the couple that met on the reality show is not. Doesn't have a stable marriage.

[D]

Well, they kind of met outside of the reality. But yes, she's very insecure. You can tell she's never really been with anyone else. Oh, and her friend Sierra is hyping her up to leave Kyle.

[A]

That's what we're watching.

[D]

Sierra.

[A]

Got it.

[D]

So let's go back to Sierra and West and how we meet them.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Sierra joins the show in like 2020 and. And just since then has been girls girl. Like, she enters the show, she's hooking up with this guy. She gets to the house. Hannah Burner is like freaking out. She used to hook up with this guy. She doesn't like that he's bringing a new girl. Sierra. Meanwhile, honestly, Hannah was like kind of in the wrong. Like Hannah was being crazy. It was totally fine. But Sierra is just like, I'm going to ride for my girls. If a girl is uncomfortable, I'll find another guy. That's sort of her ethos and that the house. She's also. I don't know if you can tell. Stunning smoke show.

[B]

Yeah, I liked her on Traders.

[A]

Very beautiful.

[D]

She's funny on Traders.

[B]

Yeah, she was very good.

[D]

I'll kill all you traitors. Yeah, she said that. Anyway, Sierra is a girl's girl and this summer she's hyping up Amanda to leave Kyle. And she also hates Kyle. They're like best friends.

[A]

They've known each other for how long?

[D]

Six years.

[A]

Yeah, six years.

[B]

Best friend.

[C]

Six years.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

She's on camera Telling another she's on camera. Interfering with another person's marriage.

[D]

Not necessarily necessarily interfering.

[C]

It's like interfering.

[D]

You're in a friend group and one of your boys is like getting drunk and yelling at his wife in front of everyone.

[A]

Yeah. Not good. Not behavior.

[D]

Great.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And Sierra's kind of like, you don't need to be with him. Have you ever tried being single? It's awesome. Like that's kind of where she's at. She's recommending separation right now. Where we are in the.

[A]

Any recommendation, any recommendation of therapy or anything like that to work through their troubles.

[B]

Didn't they take a vow before God?

[A]

They did take a vow before God.

[C]

Feels like we're single friends because.

[A]

Because single friends, oftentimes they're bitter of your, you know, loving relationships you're in.

[D]

This is not a loving relationship. Also Amanda's like talking like in her confessionals right now being like, I didn't sign a prenup. Like that's where we're at with it. Cuz he's talking about his like financial Troubles. He's like 500 grand in deep.

[A]

Oh, so she's going to take that debt on?

[D]

Yeah, she's kind of like, why am I with this?

[A]

Yeah, we didn't, we didn't. You don't think about that.

[D]

That's something to think about.

[B]

Wait, so this is a very important point.

[D]

He gets a personal business loan without asking her to float like three more months of payroll of his dumb alcoholic seltzer company lover boy. People want to buy that.

[B]

So if your girlfriend or your wife has like medical debt from like nursing school.

[D]

Uh huh. Sounds like your problem.

[B]

No, that's not me.

[A]

Well, were you guys married prior to her going to nursing school?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

No.

[C]

Yes, you were.

[A]

No.

[B]

Midwifery school. We were married after. But midwifery school in school. Yes.

[D]

That's school for that.

[B]

That's sick.

[A]

What you think of Hogwart school.

[B]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, you get a bird. All right, so that's okay.

[D]

This is something for you to consider.

[B]

Let me text one.

[A]

Yeah, just send a little text out there. Yeah.

[D]

Anyway, prenups are good. All this to say like, we're past that.

[A]

She's interfering with their marriage.

[D]

She's not interfering.

[A]

Trying to make her single, like her friend.

[D]

She's been a good bestie friend. Meanwhile, let's go back to Sierra. She joins the show and, and she's like, I'm smart, beautiful, amazing. Yes, I'm single. I like to date, but I'm also like dating intentionally. I Want a man to kind of like be a man. She's like, I want a better marriage than my parents had. I don't have a good relationship with my father.

[A]

So I'm a great self actualized human being. And she wants I can root for her.

[D]

Yeah, absolutely.

[C]

She gets a lot of shit because she only hooks up with white guys.

[D]

Not exactly. That'll come back later.

[A]

I think that Al's probably more sensitive to the criticism like that.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

A little bit more clarity.

[D]

You know, I, I tried to bring that up on a mornings and it was quite difficult.

[A]

Really?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Have you gotten shit in the past for only hooking up with white one?

[C]

I don't know. Have I?

[A]

I, I would never have a shit.

[B]

I think love is love.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[B]

I'm a believer in that.

[A]

I'm glad that you finally acknowledged that your wife is white.

[C]

No, she's not. That's the thing.

[A]

Taking us 10 years to get there. But I'm really glad that you've done that. This is growth.

[C]

Ms. Racing.

[A]

This is gross. Snap it out, snap it out.

[C]

Okay. She's Latin.

[A]

So Sierra.

[D]

So Sierra, she comes into the house.

[A]

Just let me ask one question. So is Sierra getting criticized for only hooking up with white guys while she lives in the Hamptons?

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

It's not the only hooking up with white guys, like getting played by white guys. But that, that'll come later. Basically, west is like, I'll be. He shows up a couple seasons later.

[A]

Yeah. His name is Wes or West.

[D]

West.

[A]

West with a T. Short for, I

[D]

think Westling, which sounds like you're saying west wrestling, like wrestling.

[B]

Is there a T?

[D]

West. Kanye West.

[A]

The direction.

[D]

Yes, the direction. The direction. And the anti semitic performer.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yes, yes, yes.

[D]

So he joins the show and he's obviously like, this is the bombshell of the villa. I'm gonna get close to her. They're like friends, friends, friends. He wears her down.

[A]

What does that mean, wears her down? That feels loaded.

[C]

But you know, when he tries to, you know, the gay baiting type of situation.

[A]

Did he larp as gay to get into her. Her good graces?

[D]

He's just kind of gay. Like that's kind of his vibe. Like he is like a swagged out white boy who writes for Complex, you know what I mean? He's like kind of like fruity with it, I think. I think that's how he's kind of pulling all this off.

[A]

Interesting. That works. I think that avenue works. I've been asking the gays about this. What.

[C]

What did the gays say?

[A]

I'm just like, yo, you guys. You guys. You guys fought for this dude. You guys lost lives for this. You guys f. And then now that it's cool you're seeing all these straight gu. Larp is gay to be, like, an ally.

[B]

My culture's not your costume.

[A]

My culture is not your costume. It is an interesting thing that's happening, and I think that they're being very accepting of it.

[D]

I think you're totally right. And it's only underlined by heated Rs popularity among straight women.

[A]

Heated R mean. Heated rivalry. Different. Yeah. Hard R. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Heated R. Heated R. Sorry, sorry. Yeah. That's a Freudian slip. Yeah. Okay, go on.

[D]

So he kind of wears her down, and he's like, I like you. I like, like you. And then he just clowns her. He's like, I can't be exclusive with you. He takes her to.

[A]

After hooking up.

[D]

After hooking up and after taking her to meet his family. Oh. Like, he just kind of wants whatever he can't have. And also something interesting. He's joining the show after all this. The show airs. He gets a ton of followers. He gets a ton of bad bitches hitting him up. That's a big thing about this show is that the dude just, like, going to fucking. You know, what's that bar in Montana?

[A]

Side. Not side talk. Down in Amaganzit or in Montauk.

[D]

In Montauk, like the facey. Facey one. They're at Surf Lodge, and they love it. He's like, wait, why did I, like, pick Sierra too soon? That's kind of the vibe.

[A]

Oh.

[D]

Like, I have. The world is my oyster. Now I'm famous.

[A]

She's beautiful. But now I got all these other beautiful girls.

[D]

Absolutely. And remember, she's, like, kind of.

[A]

She's serious.

[D]

She wants. Yeah. She's in her late 20s, and she's like, I would love someone to love me and not not be a clown. He's a clown. He makes a couple other mistakes after his, like, first and second season. He's doing, like, a press tour. He just thinks, like, everyone wants to hear what I have to say. He does, like, a New York Times thing where he's like, I would never date Sierra.

[C]

That's how you have to utilize this show.

[D]

Yeah, absolutely. But you don't have to say, I would never date Sierra.

[A]

Does he have a business?

[D]

He's a sports journalist.

[A]

Got it.

[D]

That's kind of how he met Portnoy. Like, in the space like, there was talks of a barstool podcast, but he works traditionally for four complex writing about sports. Don't know anything about that. Except Michigan basketball. Go blue. Anyway, they used to hook up this season. What we're watching is their marriage breakup and west kind of feeling like, oh, I fucked up with Sierra. I should get close to her again. Like, that's kind of. They're at afters. He's like, sitting in her lap. He's getting really drunk, and he's like, touching her arm and being like, yeah, I would kiss Sierra. He's like, kind of. So we're watching these two things happen at once.

[A]

So she absolutely destroys their marriage, and then he wants to rekindle the flame with Ciara.

[D]

Yes. I'm not gonna let you say that. That she's just.

[A]

I haven't watched the show. I'm just going off of your explanation. So this is all on you.

[D]

Absolutely. I'll turn this around. So that's what we're watching. And at the same time, west, another guy in the house, Jesse, he's kind of like a BP plot to all this. He asks west, hey, we've. Sierra and I have been flirting. Like, could I.

[A]

Could I crack?

[D]

Could I. Could I kiss her? And fucking Wes says no. Wes says, no, you for even asking me that.

[C]

So he's blogging, but doesn't want to claim her.

[D]

Yeah, but. But what we're watching right now in, like, mid August is like, we're headed towards maybe them rekindling.

[A]

They're in the house together. Can I just a real quick question. They're in the house together?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, man, that might be weird. Even, like, someone getting after your old work in the house with you.

[D]

You're gonna love where this goes.

[C]

Wait till. Yeah, so wait till here.

[D]

Sierra is also, like, offended by Jesse asking that. She was like, why are you asking him if he can have sex with me? Why don't you just ask me on a date and then we'll handle.

[A]

What does she believe in girl code? And, like, didn't she not hook up with Hannah's guy because of that same exact reason?

[D]

Yeah, absolutely. She does not hook up with Jesse. She's like, you're fucking stupid for asking this. I'm hot and beautiful and charming and a fun vibe. Everyone knows that. It's huge. Your fault for, like, falling for me a little bit, which I kind of respect.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Like, she's like, just because we vibe doesn't mean I'm, like, going to have sex with you.

[A]

Which.

[B]

But he didn't expect. He was just asking.

[D]

Yeah, but Jesse's also like, kind of a like by Wes tells him no one week and the next week he's like, making out with a girl while she's like, peeing. And it's like, oh, my God, you're gross.

[A]

Anyway, that's fire. Yeah, that's kind of cool. I don't see a video but she's peeing.

[D]

You just like, see it off camera. Like, she's in the bathroom and he's like, while you're peeing. And then we're looking at their empty room, but we hear them in the bathroom.

[A]

They're kissing.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

It's crazy.

[C]

Never tried that one.

[D]

The show is good. Anyway, now what? We've heard, like a couple weeks ago, rumors. Oh, oh, also I should mention, they separate in January of 2026. So we know what we're watching is two people heading towards divorce, which has been dark, and Amanda's been like, America's sweetheart.

[B]

What's happening here is not on the television show. This is just happening online.

[D]

No, this is everything I've described is happening on a television show. We're about to get into what's happening happening online.

[B]

So the season ends and, like, they're still married and we don't.

[D]

They're still married, but, like, still hate each other. We know they're gonna separate in January, but, like, cameras are off. They're just people.

[A]

So the season we're about to watch.

[D]

Currently watching, currently.

[A]

Oh, the scene that's currently on.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Six months old episodes airing from the past summer.

[D]

From the past summer, yes.

[A]

Ah. So it's almost Kardashian esque where, like, something happens in the real world and then we got to watch through.

[D]

Oh, and that's Andy Cohen's genius is like, it's the powers in the edit.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

And so they're. They're watching this real time and they're all going to go to a room reunion in a while. Oh, like, that's the thing to watch. That's bigger than the

[B]

what's happened off tv.

[D]

So they separate and then a couple weeks ago.

[B]

Do they have kids?

[D]

No, thank God. Thank God.

[A]

They were together 10 years. No kids.

[D]

10 years, no kid. Married since 2021. But like, he's not ready to be a dad. Like, no way. He's like, you smoke too much weed. And she's like, you stay out with Teeny Bopper fans. Like, it's like, cringe.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

I don't think Kyle's a good guy if you can tell. Basically now rumors surface that these two are kissing.

[A]

I mean, she's gotta feel so insecure, right? She's coming off of a 10 year relationship with the destruction of her marriage.

[D]

And this season is like sticking up to Kyle. He's being like, don't yell at your wife in front of us, you fucking asshole. Like, Amanda's a great girl who all respects.

[A]

We like that.

[D]

We like that.

[A]

We like men stepping in with abusive relationships and protecting. Protecting women.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

So Wes is kind of a hero.

[D]

But Wes was trying to crack. And when he started to. Is unclear.

[A]

Let me ask you this question. Was Wes trying to crack or was Amanda in a situation where she was like anyone?

[C]

Why you putting out the woman?

[B]

He's asking a question.

[A]

No, she's in a situation where anyone would be. Where she's incredibly insecure after seeing like her foundation, her rock, her support system, completely, incredibly dj, as you said, which is really very important. She's a homebody. She wants somebody to create the vibes for her that's no longer there. And she's incredibly vulnerable. Maybe you could say Wes took advantage of that.

[D]

I totally agree.

[A]

Maybe she just hooked up with the easiest option, someone she knew that wouldn't say no. Maybe she took advantage of. Yeah, maybe she took advantage of Wes. I again, I don't want to show. I'm just saying I'm throwing something out there.

[D]

You're on to something with the first half of that thought. And that she was vulnerable and she's never been alone. But that does not mean that you hook up with your friend's ex who you comforted them about. That is just breaking girl code. Like you cannot do that. And remember, Sierra is a girl's girl. She would never even look at Kyle. She's like kind of rude to him, honestly.

[A]

But she was looking at Jesse.

[D]

No, she wouldn't. She said, I don't want to go with you.

[A]

No, for what you said, she would have done it. She said, why don't you ask me out on a date? Why are you asking him first?

[D]

Well, she was like, we could like you're just not even. You're not even entering the chat in the way that you think you are. You know what I mean? Jesse thought like, oh, she'd be so excited to just fuck me right now. And she's like, be fucking for real. Okay, fair. Have you ever taken a woman on a date ever? Like, like I'm a woman. She also just like a plot line of hers. She bought her grandparents house with like her own money. She's like, really cool.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

But yes.

[C]

So she breaks girl code, but then he also breaks the guy.

[D]

She does not break girl code.

[C]

No, no, she's not. The other one. The other one.

[D]

Oh, Amanda.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Yes. So they start hooking up. Like we think rumored. We don't know when it starts. We're also like, we're going crazy. This is last week. I don't know if you guys could tell. I was very distracted.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And then she and him. Matching black screen, Instagram story, white text, exact same thing. PR Firm ass thing. They're saying they're announcing their special connection, not a relationship because he's incapable of relationships. Like, girl, you're getting someone who we know can't commit. She. They are announcing that they are fucking.

[A]

They're fucking. But not nothing more.

[D]

Pretty much. Although she's what we can all presume, hiding in his apartment because guy.

[A]

This guy, I don't know, it's.

[B]

He's housing a homeless woman.

[A]

He's housing a homeless woman that's dealing with a traumatic breakup not only with.

[B]

From an abusive bad guy.

[A]

From an abusive bad guy and a breakup from her friend. Right. She's no longer with her friend because

[D]

she decided to screw over her friend.

[A]

Well, we don't do that.

[B]

Why? She's not doing dating West.

[D]

But west is telling other people in the house. You can't hook up with Sierra. Isn't Sierra getting that same. Like, shouldn't she have that same power almost of like, my best friend shouldn't fucking hook up with the guy I've been complaining to?

[A]

But didn't Sierra say I can hook up with whoever I want? Why don't you just ask me out on a date? Why? You have to ask him.

[B]

Yeah, Wes is being talked.

[A]

Literally. Wes did the thing that she told Jesse he should have done to her.

[D]

No, Wes should not do anything with Amanda ever, ever, ever.

[A]

I'm just kind of saying Wes is kind of like listening to Sierra and like living life through her eyes.

[C]

Yeah. Me on team Sierra. But now they're.

[A]

They're like, I don't watch the show. I'm just saying. I don't watch the show.

[C]

I'm saying convince team west right now, can we remember?

[D]

Can you remember? In this season, we're watching west kind of seduce Sierra again and she's.

[A]

But you can't seduce Sierra based on what you said to me. This is a strong, independent woman. She makes decisions for herself. She's not going to let some guy

[D]

manipulate her for a boy who doesn't. Who doesn't okay. That's the type of guy.

[A]

Are you and other women potentially projecting things that they've experienced in their life onto this relationship?

[D]

Al did this on AM mornings. He's holding Sierra to a really high standard of like, oh, don't hook up with the fuck boy. Try to live your life that way. It's difficult. You're going to sneak in the cracks because they get close to you and

[C]

they pretend to be gay, yet to fuck a fuckboy. So it's not hard to know.

[D]

There's still time.

[A]

Lady fuck boy.

[B]

You are a lady fuck boy.

[A]

Okay, go.

[D]

I love the passion.

[A]

Please stop hitting the board as hard. No, hit it as long as hard as you want. It's fine.

[B]

Okay, go.

[A]

Okay, so just so I can understand this and I'm trying to, to be completely objective here as someone who has not consumed the show and I'm just going off of this explanation what I've seen on the Internet. Ciara, strong independent woman wants a serious relationship. Doesn't believe in this idea that like just because two guys are friends they should have to ask permission in order to ask her out on a date.

[D]

Yeah, she just wants to be involved more.

[A]

She wants to be involved.

[D]

I get that. I totally get that.

[A]

She's totally. She's involved in everything. She's involved in their demise. She's involved in all happy.

[D]

Sierra is not like putting that on Amanda. Amanda is actively crying about what her husband is yelling at her in front of everybody.

[A]

You should not yell at her. You shouldn't be yelling at women.

[D]

He be doing it.

[A]

I know it's wrong. It is, it is. It is a. What is his name? Kyle.

[D]

Kyle.

[A]

Kyle. This is. There's. You just cannot do that but try

[B]

to live your life not yelling a woman. Yeah, just.

[D]

We all yell and we all sleep in phone.

[A]

We. These are not. You can't yell. No one can't yell.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Lame. It's like 2am and being like, like you're not paying attention to me. You want to hang out with the other guys and not me and I'm your husband and it's like shut the up.

[A]

Oh. So he's, he's insecure, he's hurt, but his wife doesn't want to be it.

[C]

He just wants to be loved.

[D]

That's why I hate each other. The marriage is like over. Like, like there's so much resentment on

[A]

both sides because what they really want deep down they can't ask for, which is I just want your love. I don't want you to be sitting at Home all night, smoking weed and just cuddling up. I actually want you to take interest in what I'm interested in which is

[D]

DJing and selling seltzers and hanging out with 25 year old fans.

[A]

Yeah, I just want you to take interest in my interest.

[B]

Yeah, why don't you

[D]

Vibes.

[A]

I'm just saying like maybe that's what he's really into.

[D]

Something interesting. Interesting is Amanda is crying and then two episodes ago she's crying saying, I didn't ever think I could do better. That's why I married him. Like if you're saying that like it's over.

[A]

Listen, the reality is, is that you know, we deal with these complex situations that are handed down to us from the relationships our parents have. And like we really have to look into Amanda's parents and see that.

[D]

Why parents are together. But with all this we're, we're thinking about.

[A]

But why would she settle for this like male model? I can't imagine.

[D]

Kyle is ageless. He's looked that way since he was born. He's 43.

[A]

Can you tell he's 43 years old. He's 43. So he's this incredibly handsome guy and the man is going, I didn't think I deserved anything better.

[D]

Handsome. He's not ageless.

[B]

I think he looks DJ B match.

[D]

I forgot I came on the gay podcast you guys love man.

[A]

Listen to the beginning. This is nothing compared to that. You should see his picture of Mark. Anyway, where even are we? What, what, what, what you were framing to.

[D]

They just hard launched their.

[A]

It seemed like their situation. It seemed to me and I could be wrong. Wes is dealing with, with this emotional turmoil of realizing he up the best woman that's ever been in his life. And he's probably not going to get another chance being Sierra this strong, independent,

[D]

working to get another chance.

[A]

Let me, let me just posit the theory. So he's trying to. He's trying to get this girl back in his life. He realized he was being a boy and you know what? He ran this girl away. And this girl's probably too strong. She's probably too independent. She's probably respect herself too much really not to give him another chance. Let me just. He's not like hard. Can I just get it out? I'm so. Exactly you are. Now listen. So, so she's like. So he's like, I just ruined the best thing that could have ever happened to me. I'm down in the dumps. I'm feeling so insecure. I'm feeling so Low. I just want to feel good. And Amanda at the same time, thought that she could never do better than this guy. It turns out that that relationship was toxic. It was dysfunctional. He's yelling at her, she should never do it. They're with them to get together for 10 years, and you know what? It's not gonna work out. So the both of them are in the dumps. They're at their lowest, and two people at their lowest find each other just so they can feel good for one moment, and then the entire world is scrutinizing. I'm listening.

[D]

I'm listening.

[A]

Is that possible?

[D]

I'll add some flair. That is what's happening. But let me tell you, I don't care what gender you are. If your friend comes to you and says, you know, I'm having a hard time with this guy who's, like, going in the New York Times saying, I'm, like, ugly, undateable, that's top of your list. Do not. Amanda, you've been in a relationship for 10 years. Try someone else that's not living in the house. Didn't screw your friend over for the last three years, but you're not going

[A]

to renew that contract if you do that.

[C]

What about bro coat? Because they're cool.

[B]

They're cool.

[D]

These guys are friends.

[A]

He just took her, and you missed the big part.

[C]

They might have been hooking up before they were actually separated.

[D]

Absolutely.

[A]

Is that true?

[D]

Watching. That's the intrigue of the season.

[A]

Is it possible. Let me ask you this question. Is it possible that Kyle talks to his boy west and he goes, west? I am in this marriage that I've realized is not right for me. I need to get out of this marriage. Is there any way, if this helps, go method? Yeah. Yeah. So he goes, hey, I need to get out of this marriage. It's not right for me. She's a lovely girl, but she's not into my interest. She doesn't want to DJ until 6 in the morning. She wants to smoke weed at the house all night.

[C]

Right.

[A]

I need to get out of this. Is there any way that you could help me?

[D]

Me? He doesn't want to get out of it.

[A]

He.

[D]

He loves Amanda. That's one thing about this guy. Like, he. Like, she's so hot and awesome and cool and, like, everyone likes to hang out with Amanda. Like, he's realizing, like, why does my wife hate me? I wish she didn't hate me.

[A]

What is. What are her interests besides smoking weed and chilling at the house? I feel like that's well, they all drink.

[B]

She's also like, has a. Yeah, they do other drugs.

[D]

She has a swimwear line.

[C]

She likes dating boys.

[A]

She like date.

[B]

What jobs do they have? So he's a dj.

[A]

I'm not into the. Stay at the house all day smoking weed, guys.

[D]

Not all day, but she's just not staying at the club till she's like, I'm a married 34 year old woman.

[A]

Yeah, I like that. I like that.

[D]

I don't like going to Peter Pan lifestyle. And she's like, no, thank you, we don't go out anymore. Like that.

[B]

What is her occupation?

[D]

She's a swimmer line and I think she's like the creative director of his alcohol company. But I'm not 100%.

[B]

But the alcohol company's failing.

[D]

Yes, the alcohol company is failing because of the. He's crying. His storyline is like, my wife hates me and I have three months payroll in my small business and it's really depressing.

[A]

Can I ask one question about, about that?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So is there a version where he took out this small business loan so he could keep paying his wife that he loves?

[D]

No, because he stopped taking his salary. And I also don't know if that's what she's the creative director of. She's kind of like, he went to business school, He's a businessman. Why should I have checked about his loan?

[A]

This guy, I feel like he might be misunderstood.

[C]

It's also he might be the victim in all of this.

[A]

I think he might be his dude

[C]

sleeping with his wife. Yeah, he just wants love from his wife.

[A]

His wife wants to smoke weed and chill on a couch. Couch all day.

[D]

You are so wrong for that.

[A]

How's the music?

[B]

Does he have good music? Yeah.

[A]

What is, what is the DJing like?

[D]

It's like unoriginal. Like he's just playing like, I will survive this past weekend. Like, isn't that what DJing is, playing

[C]

other people's music that is kind of DJ.

[B]

I don't like him. No.

[A]

Look, you can make an argument that like Wes is DJing his wife,

[B]

right?

[A]

Like he's playing other people's hits. He is playing other people's hits. Like Wes, like, and there might be a version where he really appreciates it.

[D]

Can I say in this, like, situation that we're watching this season of west trying to like, come back. Sierra's being very vulnerable at this big group dinner saying, hey, you guys don't know how hard it is to be on this show. I was the first black cast member and my Fucking Internet presence is just flooded with people clowning on me for just like letting these white boys play me. That does suck. It sucks. It sucks really bad. And she's crying at this dinner and the other black cast members are like wow, thank you for like bringing this up. We could never like get them to understand like Kyle doesn't know shit about that fuck. Like he's just like, you know, not so emotionally in tuned perhaps. And west is like being very mature and listening to her and you think maybe he's going to grow into like a person who can support her.

[A]

Right.

[D]

And it's also pretty cool to be like I'm so hot. She's a nurse by the way. She's a nurse influencer.

[C]

Sounds like Kyle and Sierra would be perfect.

[A]

No, she hates Kyle's about to say the same.

[D]

She hates Kyle.

[C]

They sound like a perfect couple.

[D]

She hates Kyle because Kyle mistreated her best friend.

[A]

But now she knows her best friend will fuck her friend.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So maybe her best friend's actually a friend of mine.

[D]

I don't think getting more entrenched in this is the move at all.

[C]

And let me tell you, friend might be the problem.

[D]

Rihanna has reached out to Ciara and said I'm gonna set you up with Michael B. Jordan. He's down. She's like wait, Rihanna?

[B]

Yeah, friend of the show. One of Alex's friends that she took

[C]

a photo with that did. Yes, yes.

[D]

Did you talk to her about this?

[A]

Yeah, I did.

[B]

That is crazy.

[D]

These were.

[C]

I DM'd her.

[D]

So why would she do that? Like we're watching. We just saw her birthday dinner. He got her a cardier watch but she planned all the food. So everyone's kind of like, you get her that cardier watch cuz like you suck. Like is that.

[B]

Wait, hold on. No time is money, bro.

[A]

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

[D]

He is like

[B]

me.

[D]

Tell me.

[A]

Hold on one second.

[D]

It's kind of like when you get flowers. Cuz you yelled at her like, you know like that was the tone of the watch giving.

[A]

But she's planning the birthday, then getting a girl a nice gift.

[D]

Uhuh.

[A]

Is in place of doing all the planning.

[D]

Yeah. That's unattractive.

[A]

Yeah. But the guys that do all the planning, they probably aren't willing to buy their girl something really nice.

[D]

Or the good guys trying to be

[A]

like the good guys.

[D]

I'm a good husband.

[A]

The good guys. Guys do both. Yeah.

[D]

The good guys might not exist is what this is showing me.

[A]

I don't know if you're Going to find good guys that want to be on reality shows.

[B]

Yeah, I don't think.

[A]

Bravo.

[B]

Summer House.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know if that's where you're going to find these. These people might be.

[D]

Sweet concession I can give you.

[A]

They have probably an insatiable desire for attention without a skill to get it. So therefore they put themselves.

[D]

The same thing you said about podcasters.

[A]

No, no, we are comedians. Okay, okay. We're comedians. Yes. You could say it about podcast.

[D]

We live in attention economy. Everyone loves the sound of their own voice. I don't think Summer House is like as bad as, like to.

[A]

To your point.

[D]

This is the most chic one you can do.

[A]

I think you could say it about podcasters, but I think if you have like an art, like let's say you do music or you do comedy or something like that, you have a thing you could get attention for. I don't know if these guys have a thing they could get attention for. Therefore, the currency is drama.

[D]

The currency is drama for.

[A]

So. And it's a really tough situation to put. Like I look at the housewives chicks and I go, they need attention. They want cameras on them. They want people talking about them. But they don't really have skill to do anything.

[D]

They're usually broke, the housewives.

[A]

Well, maybe they need.

[D]

They go on that show to get money. These people are going on the show to get a following, to like have a future like Paige and Hannah.

[B]

It is interesting that this guy has a failing seltzer company on one of the biggest shows.

[D]

I know, it's so lame. You've had 10 years free advertising. You can't make an alcohol company work. Are you fucking dumb as shit?

[A]

Yeah, like creative direction.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, it could be the creative direction. Like maybe if he hired a different creative director, then there would be a more successful company. But he's so loyal that he won't fire his wife who might the issue for the business.

[D]

I regret saying that cuz I don't. Joey, can we get a fact check on that? What is she the creative director of Amanda. But she does have a swimwear line and I know that was important to her for.

[B]

And how is that doing?

[D]

I don't know. She didn't wear one in the pool that day and that was a huge problem.

[B]

She has a swimwear company and she's wearing.

[A]

You have a swimwear company but you're skinny dipping. A lot of these things are not acting up.

[D]

She was wearing a bra.

[A]

Underwear.

[B]

Oh, the beverage van loan.

[A]

She is the creative director and lead designer for the beverage brand Lover boy.

[D]

She's an artist. She's like, she's like, that's her thing.

[B]

She says that.

[D]

She's like I don't know anything about business. I design.

[C]

Well clearly she doesn't cuz the ask

[D]

Kyle and oh my God, he looks crazy.

[B]

Maybe, maybe there's another reason why it's failing. Maybe.

[D]

Have you ever seen this drink out? Like they have distribution problems. It's like a poorly run company. Like you've never heard of it.

[A]

No. So. But I also. Yeah.

[B]

Hmm.

[D]

He's so cringe.

[A]

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[C]

So who are we? Team.

[D]

We are team Sierra.

[C]

I was up until I heard their

[A]

side like, well, can we get into

[D]

the Portnoy timeline of it all?

[A]

Yes. What is the Portnoy timeline?

[D]

Watching this past season. Okay, so Portnoy basically speaks up and he's like, when they do their dual post last week, he was like, oh, well, this is old news. Chicken fry. Familiar. Chicken fry told me that at the super bowl. And everyone on the Internet says, whoa, whoa, whoa. We never heard super bowl timeline before.

[A]

So they.

[D]

They had been hooking up at the Super Bowl. They've only been separated since January. That's one month. And then we look back at the fucking season that we're watching right now, and she'll like, Kyle's drunk and yelling at her. She'll go in the back bathroom crying. Right. She'll come out and she'll. She'll see west and she'll smile or like. Or like they're. They're walking by each other in the hallway, and she'll kind of like, do like, a dragging arm thing. And their arms are touching.

[C]

Oh, yeah, they're.

[D]

And I'm watching now being like, oh, all bets are off of when this situation starts.

[C]

They're.

[A]

That might be hiding it, Monkey boss. It's where, like, you, like, you don't

[B]

let go of one until you have a hand on.

[D]

She could not let go of him until. Until she had him.

[B]

And so maybe he helped. He's like methadone. Like, he helped her off it.

[D]

Yeah. But she should be off men entirely. She. I encourage her withdrawals.

[A]

Yeah. Like, you can't go cold turkey.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

If you're bouncing on a crazy style for years, all Of a sudden, you're

[A]

bouncing on a crazy style.

[B]

Come on.

[D]

He. Oh, my God. In the show, he asks her to shower with her, and she says no. It's like.

[C]

She sounds horrible.

[D]

She's not great.

[C]

She, like, there's nothing endearing.

[A]

You're like.

[D]

She's very insecure leaving this relationship and, like, went for the first thing.

[A]

But the way you're describing her, she's like some pothead that just hangs out on the couch while her husband's company that he pays her to work at is failing. Maybe she should be working.

[D]

I think you're overemphasizing this donor thing that's.

[A]

I'm just going off of what you said that her personality was in.

[D]

Her personality. She's just kind of like, oh, it's 11pm Maybe I'd want to, like, watch a show and hit the pen with my husband.

[A]

Should design some new cans. Maybe you should work on.

[C]

He asked her to come in the shower, and she said no.

[A]

Like, he's trying to get.

[B]

There's nothing better than coming in the shower. Yeah.

[D]

I'm just saying you're not having sex. Like, it's not like she's like.

[C]

But I mean, it seems like it's hers. She's the problem. He's trying. He's making an effort.

[A]

So he's making an effort.

[D]

Less is the problem. That is your ex's best friend. You wouldn't do that.

[C]

They're both.

[A]

You guys all.

[D]

Wouldn't do that.

[B]

Would you get mad at a scorpion for stinging something? You know, it's like, you know my nature. You decided to ride across the river.

[D]

I know his nature. This is very dark. How would you know that he was going to do this?

[B]

We know his nature.

[A]

You said he's a fuckboy.

[C]

Yeah, you gotta expect that from fuckboys.

[D]

Like, but we only learned he was a fuckboy once. He had already, like, been engaged with Sierra and, like, invited.

[C]

They were engaged?

[D]

No, like, engaged with, like, they were Sierra on this first season of his. And then once it airs, then we kind of realize he's a boy.

[C]

When you say kissing, they were. Yeah, okay.

[A]

But, like, they were hooking up. And then because they're hooking up on the show, it means they're in a relationship.

[D]

She was kind of like, I don't really want to be with anyone unless you, like, actually have feelings for me. And he kind of was like, yeah, okay. Like, I'll.

[A]

He kind of was like. Or he said, okay, I'll be with you. No, he's like, this Is like girl years where like they hear, yeah, we're in a relationship, but he's probably like, nah, we're just. And then she gets upset.

[C]

Nah, I kind of doing the thing.

[D]

He's using his close friendship with her to be like, yeah, like, I know you want someone. Like, I'm that someone. And then the second he can like get ass with his new followers, he's like, I would never be with Sierra. Let me tell Fuck it. Every podcast and news outlet. Who cares what I have to say that like, I would never want to be with Sierra. Meanwhile, she's like, fuck you, dude. Keep my name out your mouth. You're a rookie. You've never been on a reality show. You don't do. Do that to each other. Like, we're a tight knit community.

[B]

With Survivor, you do that to people and like traders.

[D]

But this isn't a.

[A]

Isn't the basis of reality shows. People over.

[D]

Yeah, that doesn't work in that unique way. Your favorite word. Gauche.

[A]

Yes. So ghosh.

[D]

So gauche. You wouldn't do.

[A]

But I would also.

[D]

If you got in a disagreement with Mark, you wouldn't like go to the New York Times and be like, mark was rude to me, but they could

[B]

actually help with ticket sales.

[A]

If you talk about me as much as he can get gagged on, he'll be at set next week. The Marilu show. Exactly.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It seems to me that Sierra's personality type does not fit with reality tv.

[D]

No. She is like really fun and funny,

[A]

but that's not what the show is about.

[B]

Would you rather all of them are just like really well adjusted and nice?

[A]

This show. Let me tell you what this show is about, having never seen it.

[D]

Drama.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And the first time there's some real drama, the entire world is talking about it. So that's what this show has been missing.

[B]

There's been a lot of perfect for the show. Because she represents you. Yes, she represents the viewer.

[A]

Someone to get over by these psychopaths on a reality show. What I mean by, like, not supposed to be on a reality show. I mean the personality type, she's like so, like measured and from your description, cool and normal. Cool and normal. And then she's almost taken advantage of by all these people who are not really measured, cool and normal. They have this sensational.

[D]

And she's also dealing with something that is being a 10 out of 10. She's like, everyone's obsessed with me. Don't fuck me. Unless you were serious about it. You know, all the dudes come into the house and like, want to fuck with was here. And she's like, I only want to let someone in. They're like, share my values.

[A]

Has she tried? Not him.

[D]

She did try. He weaseled his way in through friendship. That I don't know a summer.

[B]

He weaseled in through friendship.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Played the.

[D]

We've seen it done.

[C]

Oh, we've seen it.

[D]

We've seen it done.

[A]

Just saying, girls, you got to hold out a little bit longer. You got to see.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You got to see how long they.

[D]

Here is the mistake. I'm just spend any time.

[B]

If there's a wooden horse outside, don't bring it inside.

[A]

Oh, bring the wooden horse in to

[D]

be a wooden horse.

[B]

Because he.

[A]

That's what guys do.

[B]

Take it up on reality shows. Get him off the payroll. It's on a TV show.

[A]

What are we talking about? The guy who goes on the reality show for attention.

[D]

Everyone's on the reality show. That's a non starter.

[A]

Do you have to only fudge people in the reality show?

[B]

Yes.

[D]

That's an interesting thing to me because I'm like, dude, just find another dude.

[B]

But.

[A]

And why can't she.

[D]

Because she's insecure.

[A]

Telling her, hey, hooked up with this guy.

[D]

Bring reality.

[B]

I was playing the KFAB for a little. But it's also like, what are we talking?

[A]

What are we talking about? Give Alex real talk. Give Alex real talk. Give Alex real talk. Mark talk. Your.

[B]

What is like, this is not real.

[D]

What do you mean?

[B]

Like, this is a science experiment. Producers put them in rooms and then they manipulate them and then they edit it to make it look like something.

[A]

And they add alcohol.

[B]

Yeah, they mentally torture them.

[D]

Most real. For sure.

[A]

Oh, you're so adorable. She's so cute. She's so cute.

[C]

They really buy into this.

[D]

Can I just say, like watching a trash show for 10 years, this is the kind of punchline you hope is gonna pay off. You know what I mean? Like, we've been invested in these.

[A]

This is adorable.

[B]

Yeah, it's fun.

[A]

But it's not like Alex growing up was also like, Christopher Columbus was so noble and brave. I read it in a book.

[D]

I did learn that in high school. That he might not be.

[A]

Yeah, he might not be. But whatever. We're here already. Yeah. So the point is, you have people who are probably all a little bit crazy. That's why they agreed to go on a reality show and expose the inner workings of their emotional turmoil with the

[B]

world without even an equity stake.

[D]

They still have gay jobs. Look at people.

[A]

Would you Let somebody. Would you let somebody think film you hooking up with guys and you still had a day job?

[D]

If I could work here Monday through Thursday and get this following Friday through Sunday, absolutely I fucking would.

[A]

I don't think that you would.

[C]

No, you wouldn't.

[A]

No. I can't say what you wouldn't wouldn't do. And I'm not talking about hooking up with guys, but would you let somebody film like the intimacies of your emotional relationships? And you still worked at a restaurant. It's one or the other, right? Like this is. They're giving them nothing.

[D]

I guess you're doing it as an out to get out of your restaurant job. You're hoping that you can build a fucking following to get out.

[B]

So it's like emotional squid games. It's like instead of competing to the death, you're just like putting your psyche on the line every single episode and

[D]

you're hoping that you can make yourself a face.

[A]

And you're going through that job and Monday through Thursday you're like, man, this sucks. I'm like, I know how to get attention on this show. I know what I gotta do.

[D]

That's my manner.

[A]

I know what I gotta do. And Alex, all of them.

[C]

There are some success stories like Hannah and Paige. But then you also have Kyle who's in debt with a shitty company that's been on for 10 seasons.

[D]

Well, now he's doing front facing content, being like, it was really hard me to be open about my financial losses and I would really support if you guys would. Would support lover boy and come to my DJ shows. So I think he's gonna like turn it around.

[C]

10 seasons.

[D]

He's just a loser. That's a big takeaway is Kyle is lame.

[A]

I don't know enough.

[B]

I don't know the guy. I don't know.

[A]

I don't know enough. I don't know enough. But based on what you're saying, I think a lot of people could probably relate to having a dream and like giving everything and putting after it and then like it not working out and

[D]

then you're boy steals your wife. That is the.

[B]

That would suck.

[A]

This guy. This guy has lost the most.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

This guy has lost. He lost the love of his life and his marriage.

[D]

Amanda also lost.

[A]

Amanda's going to be fine. She already got another guy.

[D]

Be the creative director. I don't know.

[A]

But like she's already got another guy and she's the talk of the town.

[D]

Yeah, she's the talk of the town in a bad Way. And honestly, something that I think Amanda's not calculating is that west will not commit to you either. I'm sure that he's just like, scrolling through his new followers from this. Looking at everyone in a bikini being like, life's awesome.

[B]

West should be the face of their seltzer brand.

[A]

That is Lover Boy.

[B]

He's like kind of the epitome.

[D]

He's not a lover.

[A]

But

[B]

girls really drink seltzer. Don't want to love her. They want to.

[A]

They want a fuck boy.

[B]

You can't put that word on a can.

[A]

So you say Lover boy. Yeah, it's fuck boy seltzer, and that's call it West Peak Fuck Boy right there.

[D]

I would assume that Kyle wants to. To kill West.

[A]

No, no, no. Kyle wants attention.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And Wes is giving Kyle attention.

[D]

But it's the worst kind of attention.

[C]

It. No, it's better because before he was

[A]

just reality show to her.

[D]

No, it's the worst.

[B]

Do you think so cool. Steve Austin really tried to kill Vince McMahon.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What do you.

[A]

What do you believe and not believe when they like.

[B]

Do you think Vince McMahon's daughter really married Triple H?

[D]

Like, I sat down and watched wwe, Mark. Do you think that's my palette of content? Yes.

[A]

WWE is realer than this, I promise you.

[B]

Actually, in fairness, Triple H did marry Vince McMahon's daughter.

[D]

Maybe.

[B]

Actually, I'm working against myself.

[D]

This is like, pretty fucking real to me. I don't know. Because also when they announced their. You're laughing. When they announced.

[A]

This is so adorable.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

This is like, can women have hobbies?

[A]

I'm thinking about my daughter and I'm going to have to go through this in a few years with like, Blue's Clues

[B]

almost more believable because it listens to you. It's like, where's the pencil? And you're like, it's over there.

[A]

He's like, oh, thanks. Yeah, well, the pencil is Wesson, but that's her last name. Yeah.

[D]

There's a picture of Sierra when they co post their, like, Instagram story thing. There's just a paparazzi picture of her in New York City, in Meatpacking, like, on the ground to the point where it's like, oh, I thought she. She probably knew, but she didn't know that they were posting that. Clearly she's like, literally outside of, like, pastis, like, on the ground. So it's like she's just getting screwed

[C]

over by people that she does really believe this.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You don't think they're the Pop Tarzan

[B]

how did the paparazzi know she was gonna be there?

[D]

Can I tell you? I actually got this in a group chat of like women I went to college with way before Page Six had it.

[A]

Are you starting to realize a little bit of what's happening or. No?

[D]

I know what the rest.

[A]

It's like Page Six gets this great shot, perfect shot at the exact moment when they go hard to show you

[D]

that I had this photo before it was posted.

[A]

Nurturingly and caringly. Why would the paparazzi be outside? Why would you go inside?

[D]

I literally got this text in a group chat. My friend sent me of like oh so and so sent me this photo. Like they saw her there. Like that photo is not like.

[A]

So it might be completely detached from us.

[D]

I think a 27 and there is

[A]

nothing to do works at W. Got a paycheck for selling photo. But it's possible that this has nothing to do with this at all. It's possible. That's not even Sierra.

[D]

What do you mean by that?

[A]

I'm just saying.

[D]

Are you introducing psyops to me?

[A]

It's possible. It's AI. It's possible. It's anything. If we don't have the dates to this. It just looks like a moment where she's in despair and then we're applying it to the situation. It could have nothing to do with it.

[C]

And who's it dude consoling her?

[A]

Exactly.

[D]

He looks like a gay older gentleman

[C]

or he's playing the west game and that's about to be the next fuckboy that she falls for.

[D]

Think ABC is silly to not make Sierra the bachelor meanwhile. She would never do that. I think she's too good for it. Honestly. Like I don't think she would want.

[A]

You're so adorable. She went on traitors. She'll go on the Bachelor.

[B]

Traders is actually a high level. Traders is actually a good show. It's like complex and it's like. It's like chess basically. You're basically chess. It is. It's Traders is like a high level television. It's not. It's not even reality.

[A]

Right?

[B]

It's not. Not reality tv. And those people are actually backstabbing each other like in Traders. Like they're actually shocked, you know?

[A]

Oh boy.

[B]

Like it actually, like you can see the despair.

[C]

It wasn't the producers at all.

[B]

No, they actually say they don't do producers.

[A]

It really is. Once you like something, you have to make it smart.

[B]

No, that's all it is, smart. And then I happen to like this.

[A]

Right?

[B]

You have to, like, get a really high SAT score to understand traders, like, just in general. Like, you have to be, like, a big brain. I don't know, one dumb guy that doesn't. Can we just like, stupid traders? Would you do traders? I don't know if I could hang. I don't know if I can handle. Really.

[A]

No, you're too honest.

[B]

They're good.

[A]

There's a lot more people.

[D]

Traders. It's like, easier than the celebrity one. You could like.

[B]

Miles and I played traders this weekend.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, we did.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

How do you play it?

[B]

It's a. It's like a TV game where, like, you have, like, your phone and one of you is the murderer, and then you have to try to guess who it is based off evidence.

[D]

You guys are giving me shit for watching reality tv. He's playing games about it.

[B]

That's beyond reality. That's like, literally the most real.

[D]

You're LARPing.

[B]

That's.

[A]

I remember.

[B]

Yeah. And Miles was guilty twice in a row and played it off both times.

[A]

Traitors.

[B]

No, I got caught both times. Yeah. If you tried, you tried to lie to all of us. Yeah, I did. So post people.

[A]

Is there a moment where Kyle and Wes talk about Amanda?

[D]

Yeah. The most recent episode, which is like, August 2, 2025. He's saying, hey, bro, don't talk to your wife like that. She's our friend. Like, that's the last we see.

[A]

No, I'm talking about after.

[D]

Yeah, we don't.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

We don't.

[D]

Communications.

[C]

He'd be like, yo, what? Yo, bro, treat your wife better, cuz I'm smashing her, cuz I want to. No, he's probably her.

[B]

But also, doesn't he benefit if he treats her worse like is. Then she needs him more. It's like kind of a Munchausen situation.

[A]

Right. So he's like, the more vulnerable she is. That would be isolated. She is. Well, I imagine you think Wes is truly evil.

[D]

I don't think he's truly evil. I think he just wants everything in front of him, which is both of these women in this season, and one is married, one is kind of doesn't trust him.

[A]

He's constantly seeking validation.

[D]

Yes. He's an insecure man as well.

[A]

He validates himself through women instead of art. Yes.

[D]

Unless you call sports journalism art.

[A]

Well, no, there's. There's an art to journalism.

[C]

Yeah, there's.

[A]

Yeah, they're even talking to.

[D]

I've actually never read his work. I don't know what it's about at all.

[A]

We should Bring up an article.

[B]

Yeah, I would love that.

[A]

I mean, clearly the guy's got away with words, right? He's able to.

[D]

He's a charmer.

[A]

Yeah, he's must be charming.

[D]

He's charming.

[A]

Yeah, Right.

[D]

Never trust an adult blonde. It's not good. It's not a good idea.

[A]

Actually.

[B]

An interesting point.

[A]

A blonde male.

[D]

They're both adult blondes.

[A]

You don't see a lot of adult blondes, huh? Like male blondes? No.

[C]

Why is that?

[D]

They're dangerous.

[A]

Why is that?

[C]

Do their hair like it starts to get darker when you get older, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Sweden is probably part of it.

[A]

They're evil.

[D]

Keeps the blonde the.

[A]

Yo, were the people in jail with you in Sweden brown haired? Is that how they.

[C]

I don't get.

[B]

They disproportionately do lock up brown.

[A]

Do they disproportionately lock up the brown haired people in Sweden? Because that's all they

[C]

were.

[A]

There any like super blue eyed blonde haired, like Aryan dudes in jail with you?

[C]

There's actually two.

[A]

Really?

[C]

I think they're Russian though.

[A]

Okay. From there.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Damn. Okay, so then what?

[B]

Where. These are your neighbors. You've never seen these people?

[A]

I've never seen one of them out.

[D]

These are your neighbors out there. And probably in the city as well.

[A]

Where's the house?

[D]

The house is in Hampton Bay.

[A]

Water Mill.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

Well, those are very different.

[D]

Very different places.

[A]

Very different places. Look at where the house is.

[D]

Yeah. Joey, I'm curious where the house is. They're also like getting a new one for the next season.

[A]

I saw that. This one's on sale.

[D]

It's on sale? Yeah. Can we buy it? Fleet. Flagrant content house.

[A]

Flagrant content house. We take old.

[D]

Is that East Hampton water?

[A]

No, Watermill is like right before Bridgehampton. Beautiful area.

[D]

Yeah, it's a beautiful house. They have a great time at the house.

[A]

Summer house. Wow. I can't believe I've never heard of this show.

[B]

Is anyone good?

[D]

But your wife watches it?

[A]

Oh, wait, no. She's never watched it. She only watched the Housewives. And last night I go home and as I get into bed, it's on.

[D]

Yeah, because it's tantalizing. There's so much like. I mean, you guys should tune in. Tell me if you think Paige is

[C]

still on the show.

[D]

No, Paige is laughing all the way to the fucking bank. And I'll tell you why. Last season was her last summer house season and she broke up with her boyfriend who's also on Southern Charm. That's A different franchise. And their Southern charm drama is also very good. And Craig is just, like, crashing out. So Paige left Summer House and left her loser US Southern charm boyfriend. And she just did a collab with Kourtney Kardashian. She's honestly really cool and awesome.

[A]

So is this there a way to be successful on this show and not be. What do you. How would you define these people?

[D]

I would say Paige is like, the only case because Hannah Burner did crash out really bad on Summer House.

[A]

She crashed out?

[D]

Yeah. Like, it was like, I think if you're gonna go on the show, you're probably gonna be embarrassed, but they mentally torture them.

[B]

They keep them up all night and give them alcohol.

[D]

Does that sound like torture to you?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, kind of does sound.

[C]

Kind of sounds like

[D]

professional in New York who had no access to the Hamptons.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Here's a fun share house. We have day parties on Saturdays.

[A]

Oh. Completely on paper.

[D]

See how it sounds?

[B]

Funny.

[A]

So does fraternity hazing. Hey, you want to join our friend group?

[D]

You might as well just love it. You talk about it fondly so. Like.

[B]

Yeah, but it wasn't filmed. It was put on tv.

[D]

Not that, you know, that's a good point.

[A]

It being monetized by another entity.

[D]

Well, they're also getting. Is a tricky one from Andy, but

[A]

not good enough where you can quit your job. No, I think that. I think Andy Cohen was the only guy that got people to watch regular TV when everything went to streaming. Like, that's how compelling these shows are. And also, Peacock is genius.

[D]

Most usable streamer. I love it.

[A]

Now, what's the difference between Dr. Phil and Andy Khan?

[D]

Wow. Okay. Dr. Phil in my memory kind of capitalized more on people's like, mental illness and like, like poverty.

[C]

I mean,

[A]

Mario Povich.

[C]

Yeah, like. Like what you see, I'm going to

[A]

go to the bathroom and just work that out. I'll be right back. I'll be right back.

[D]

Do you. Okay. Andy Cohen deals with more like, aspirational, like, former actresses. Like, it's not like, Sorry, someone with. With like a mental disability fighting with their. Isn't that what Dr. Phil was like?

[A]

Who's more successful off of these shows? Catch Me Outside Girl. Or the highest earner of Summer House.

[B]

Catch Me Outside Girl.

[A]

Catch Me Outside Girl. Yeah, I think Dr. Phil hits it a higher clip.

[C]

Catch Me Outside Girl is rich right now.

[A]

What was her name?

[D]

She scared.

[C]

I think she just made like 8 mil off of only fans or some shit like that.

[D]

But that's one case. Like Andy Cohen has so many people who've come out of Bergolia.

[A]

Has a net worth of 35 to 50 million.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

For what?

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Only fans.

[C]

So shout out.

[D]

Okay, that's porn. That's different.

[C]

He's doing the Lord's work.

[A]

That's sex work.

[D]

But okay, all that is professional woke

[A]

podcast, all this Profession.

[B]

Oldest profession, unfortunately.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Yeah, unfortunately. So when does the new season come out? It's out.

[C]

We're watching new seasons. But when we haven't listed him.

[B]

This happens over summer of 25. It comes out now. And what happens summer of 26 will come out next year.

[D]

Yes, yes. But you're forgetting we're still looking forward to a reunion where they will all sit on a couch like this with Andy Cohen in the middle and they will talk about the themes. They'll talk about. Did you watch it? How do you feel? And I'm like, how is Amanda going to even show up there? And will. Okay, that's the other thing about Andy Cohen.

[A]

If you're ashamed to go on the show, you can't. If.

[D]

If you want to come back the next year and if you want to get your final paycheck, you have to go to the reunion. Those are Andy Cohen rules.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

It keeps them, like, kind of.

[A]

You're saying that she wouldn't go on the most watched TV show that the. You're almost saying holds money so people

[D]

can call her a white devil. I don't think they don't care.

[A]

They want attention, Alex. They'll do anything for it. They found something where they get to party in the Hamptons and get the attention. They would do anything for the attention. These people are as mentally ill as the people that go on Dr. Phil. Maybe more. More. Yeah. Because at least Dr. Phil, they're kids. These are grown adults that should know better and still choose to do it. And it doesn't mean it's not fun and entertaining to watch.

[D]

I have an interesting.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Response to that.

[A]

Please, please, please, please, please.

[D]

The way that the attention economy has shifted now, you're. Basically, it's a race to get followers. If you want a career as a.

[A]

Because you can monetize the followers, right?

[D]

Absolutely. Like, that's what they're up to. And there are no. Sorry, scripted talking head shows anymore. There is no guy code to, like, put you on. This is their confessional. This is their talking head show. That's what's available.

[B]

The whole thing is evil. This culture is sick. We're in end stages.

[D]

Yeah, but don't blame the.

[A]

No. What I would say is that there are other ways that you can get on. Like, there are tons of people making really cool creative content online.

[C]

Yeah. That don't have following.

[A]

No. And there are people that are making creative, fun content online that do have followers. Like, the Drusky sketch is, like, fun, creative content online and got tons of views. Way more views.

[D]

Well, how did Drewski first get famous?

[A]

By doing content online.

[D]

Was it always sketch or was it, like, vlogging or, like.

[B]

No, I think it was only sketches.

[C]

Only sketches.

[A]

To me, sketch is What I remember

[D]

50 had do to tell me who he was, like, a year ago. Sure.

[A]

It's not going to fit in, like, every. But he's objectively massive. So, like, the idea that you can't make it through art, I think is.

[B]

Yeah, sure.

[D]

But, like, this is a really easy way to do it.

[A]

Well, yeah. If you don't have art, then you got to do it.

[C]

And the easy way is not always the best way.

[A]

And just having influencers doesn't make your seltzer brand work.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

No one.

[A]

Because they don't really want a seltzer brand brand. They want to monetize fame and you can't make enough money on their show. Exactly. Same thing.

[B]

But Hannah can do stand up. Say Hannah left, starts doing stand up and she's like, yeah.

[A]

And she blows the up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because she has an art.

[D]

Yes. And that's way better, I guess. I don't see that, like, they can't do art. If they're on this show, they might

[A]

be able to do art, but it seems so far from what you're explaining. They all might be artists.

[D]

I just have empathy as, like, a person in their twenties in the city with no access to the Hamptons. Like, fuck, yeah, give me a ticket out. You know what I mean?

[A]

I don't begrudge anybody for wanting to go there, but there's a price that you pay for doing it. Right. So the price here is like, the whole world is going to watch this

[D]

and now it's actually Hannah.

[A]

I have empathy for them that are going through that. Like, that must be really tough. And also must be really tough to be like, fuck, I still want the attention and I still feel like I need the fans and I still need these things. So I'm going to have to submit this myself to something that's going to make me miserable.

[C]

I have zero empathy for that. They're adults and they're choosing to do it. Yeah, but sometimes, you know what you sign up for.

[B]

Yeah, but sometimes kind of know, I think you get sold a bill of goods, like you'll part of the Hamptons and find love and have fun.

[C]

Reality tv.

[B]

But you don't know it's going to be that bad till it happens to you.

[D]

I agree.

[C]

You, you think, like, how many times do we have to see the same thing over like every reality TV show

[A]

that's fair, this traffic.

[B]

Because like they meet a pimp and they're like, oh, maybe I'll just do it for like a weekend, maybe I'll strip. And then the pimp takes, takes advantage of them, they get exploited. So like these cycles of abuse continue to go on. Obviously this is.

[C]

But a lot of sex trafficking happens, like under wraps. Like, you don't see it's not filmed, put on tv. I mean, I get the metaphor.

[B]

You're. People know, yeah, there's enough sex work. It generally doesn't.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

People understand cycles of exploitation, but yet they still do it because people continue to make the same mistakes because we're fallen people. All right? All original sins.

[D]

And here's the science.

[A]

There's so many people, like, you know, there's so many like people that want

[B]

to make it in Hollywood and then

[A]

they're like shitty producers that would take advantage of that desire to go make something with them, with their lives. And like, why can that not be also true in this situation? If it can happen to like some of the most famous actors in history, why would it not happen to reality stars?

[C]

I get it. I just think that reality, we know the producers are trying to make as much drama as possible.

[A]

And so it's like, yeah, what I would say, what I would say about reality is that like now, now I think that we've, we're seeing more than ever is that like people are going on it for opportunity. Like, if you ever watch like the Bachelor, the Bachelorette, now, all the people on the show, they're not going to find love. They're here for the wrong reason.

[D]

That's something they say on that show.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

And like they're performing and they're living up to like archetypes for the show. Like, I'm gonna be bad guy, I'm gonna be sweet guy. I'm gonna be supportive. And like, it's almost to the point where like now the show is satirizing itself because it's too self. Self aware. So to Alex's point, all these people know what they're getting into. They grew up watching these shows. They know what characters thrive on these shows. They know what characters get no attention on the shows? And you don't want to be someone who's on it without any attention.

[D]

Let Taylor Frankie Paul be the Bachelorette. We want to see it.

[A]

Yo, look, man, they're so stupid for

[D]

taking it away from us.

[A]

If that kid wasn't in the video, she's still the Bachelor. I actually.

[D]

I'm going to be honest. I didn't watch the video because I didn't want to see a kid get it.

[A]

It's disturbing. I don't know if the kid got hit. I don't know if the kid got hit.

[B]

If I can't listen to Kanye, we can't have Taylor. Like, this is crazy. Come on.

[C]

He's like, hey, if I don't watch it, it didn't happen.

[D]

How many football players still play when they hit their watch because they have an art?

[A]

I hate to. I hate to bring. Kanye has an art, and that's why he's able to do.

[D]

Football's not art.

[A]

Football is an art.

[D]

Is.

[A]

It is ballet in art.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Football.

[D]

Football's not ballet. How is it not just, like, smash heads?

[C]

Oh, my God.

[D]

Brain scramble.

[A]

What is ballet? Vomit.

[C]

Stand on my tobito.

[D]

Have you considered. It's also pink also, that.

[A]

That is a very.

[D]

And that makes more art.

[A]

Football is pink in October.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Breast cancer awareness.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

But I guess my point is that, like, if you have things that there's an intangible skill attached to it, then you kind of get away with. I don't think you should.

[D]

People are monetizing a skill and being, like, funny. Honestly, like, situational. Like, Paige is just, like, charming as her whole time in the house.

[A]

Yeah. Maybe that's why she was so unique and able to launch. To launch. Whereas I think most people are funny because they're unaware of how absolutely absurd they're acting in front of a camera.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And we all get to watch it. Like, what the. Am I saying, like, watching those. The Mormon wife shit is insanity.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

That show is actually too dark. It's. I can't.

[A]

Sad a little bit.

[D]

It's sad.

[A]

But we watch. We watched the. What is intervention when I was growing up, that was our version of, like, you're seeing someone's life fall apart and their family members come around to try to save them. And you watch an episode and you're like, my life ain't that bad.

[D]

So let me tell you, I think Summer House is. Is. I feel. I don't have that, like, icky feeling watching it, because it's like, oh, they're 30, they're hot. It'll be fine. Versus, like, an intervention is like, that

[A]

is the most extreme.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

But I agree with you. We don't. It's actually the perfect.

[D]

But that's the difference with, like, Dr. Phil is like, Dr. Phil. I get that icky feeling.

[A]

You get a little icky feeling. I don't think we should feel icky about it. It's like the perfect description.

[D]

Like, yeah, this is fine. This one is fine.

[A]

This is what Americans need right now, by the way. Yeah, we want to escape. The reason this is so big is because Americans like, I don't want to think about the news. I don't want to think about the war. I don't want to think about anything. Give me emotional drama, and I'll just focus my attention over there.

[C]

This is just older people's IRL streamers.

[A]

Exactly. Like, there's no different speed and fucking,

[C]

you know, the same exact clavicular. It's literally the same thing.

[D]

I don't know a ton about streaming because I'm locked in on this.

[A]

This is streaming. Yeah.

[C]

They just go and live their life. People are watching them live their life,

[B]

and then drama happens.

[A]

It's a blog, but.

[D]

But also, I think. I don't know how streaming works, but this is interesting. And that, like, the time away from the camera is also t. Like, we're wondering what they did.

[A]

This is a testament to the investment that the audience has in it. Like, you've built up the relationships with these people, which is like, no different.

[D]

Completely parasitized. Completely. I think Sierra's my best friend. That's concerning.

[A]

That's the power of this. And that's why Cohen's brilliant. And I'm sure the editors are editing it. So you empathize with her.

[D]

Well, that's the other thing. While this season is still airing, it's like the episodes we still have to watch, are they going back and re editing them? Are they giving us more of them flirting?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Who knows?

[B]

Because the whole thing's filmed before they put it out.

[D]

Yeah. And they have no control in the edit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You ever watch that? Formula one. Drive to survive. Drive to survive. It comes out way after the season.

[C]

Right.

[A]

So you already know who wins, but they figure out all the drama, and then they edit for the drama around it. And it's awesome.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Because that's kind of what we want. We know that wrestling is the answer is already written, but toy with us as we get there. That's this.

[D]

But it's better than wrestling

[B]

for You.

[A]

Until. Yes, until they're selling out stadiums. I don't know if it's better.

[B]

Ooh, they might be able to locate.

[D]

They're selling out stadiums, like in the house.

[A]

They could sell out a stadium of the reunion.

[D]

That's what they should. Absolutely agree. They should sell tickets to reunion.

[A]

They should. Msg.

[B]

N. You can't, though.

[D]

Why?

[A]

Why? Why?

[B]

You got to control.

[A]

Cuz you got to control the edit.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

It's not scripted.

[C]

No, no, no. The reaction. Reunion is live, right?

[D]

They, like, film it in one go,

[A]

but then they chop it down. Oh, I thought some of the shows reunion is live. Like, you watch like, it's as close to Survivor was like day of. It's six months after with the reunion, cursing and all that. Go, go.

[D]

Sorry. It's pretty much just like one show. They just, like, film it. But if people get heated, they take a break. They might not come back. Like, they might go to their trailer and then. And that's part of it. They follow. They bring a camera and they're like, I don't want to go back. Like, they're fucking with me. And it's like, that's funny.

[A]

It's not open to the public or ticketed seating. No, of course not. I gotta watch it. When is the reunion?

[D]

When is the reunion? I don't know, but it's gonna be the biggest night in America. Are we? It is.

[B]

Trump tweeted about it today. He said 8pm 8pm America has to

[D]

go on past 8pm tonight so we can watch this.

[A]

Is it possible that there are some leaders of the IRGC right now watching. Watching Summer House, and they're like, we can't.

[B]

Solemn Daughter was posted up with a green card in Miami. There's 100 chance she saw us. And she's probably Team Sierra.

[D]

Rihanna and Jon Hamm are, like, the two biggest people who've spoken on this, but I think this is just showing that everyone's watching Bravo.

[A]

Well, that's the thing. I've seen a lot of celebrities take pictures and, like, hang out with the housewives or the Mormon wives or whatever.

[D]

It honestly became a conflict of interest on one of the pods I left listen to and that, like, the hosts are like, friends with Amanda and Kyle and they're like, oh, we shouldn't, like, talk about our friends breakup. Like, that's. Paige and Hannah were pretty and.

[C]

Or celebrities who also, like the attention could just be jumping on this wave and pretending that they're big.

[D]

Rihanna needs the fucking attention. I think she's invested. She's your friend.

[B]

No way. I'm like, I'm not shocked.

[A]

Rihanna likes it. No, we shouldn't be shocked that we all like this. This is like, at its core.

[D]

Yeah, but you are insisting on talking down on it.

[A]

Let me think if I'm talking down on it.

[D]

Consider that.

[A]

Let me think if I'm talking down on it. I think that, like, you're talking down to the reaction.

[D]

Can I tell you, I also used to think, like, hold on one.

[A]

I don't think. I think that there's trashy aspects to everything. I mean, earlier this episode, we talked about Mark being so handsome that I was going to buttfuck him.

[D]

This is a gay ass trash.

[B]

Well, you did say that.

[A]

Yeah, I did. Yeah.

[B]

And my, my nephew watches us.

[A]

Yo.

[C]

And now he takes heroin to get skinny. So it's like.

[A]

Got it.

[D]

Are you on that?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

What heroin?

[C]

He's on the hard.

[B]

The HLP one.

[A]

The HLP one. So, like, yeah. Not everything has to be high art, but I think we can look at certain things and be like, oh, this is a little bit. Was it like when you're taking advantage of people? What is that? We're taking advantage of people that, like, specific likely are mentally ill. Like predatory. Yeah, you could say, like, there's predatory aspects to it. Now, that doesn't mean that we're not going to watch it. We love watching predatory. We watch the NFL and they're giving each other CTE non stop. Now they're signing up.

[D]

That's why I think it's not art

[A]

because you hurt yourself. A sign up. Well, then ballet is an art. At ballet, I mean, if, you know, ballerinas, like, their bodies get absolutely destroyed. No, I do know that. So I don't think just because you're

[D]

fighting, think football is boring, but that's just a personal thing.

[A]

Well, yeah, like, something's boring doesn't make it not art. Every play I go watch is boring.

[B]

Yeah, Ross Rothko is kind of boring.

[D]

But also, like, sports are different than art. Those are different things.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

Yes, they are different than art. Sure.

[D]

You're talking about, like, societal value.

[A]

I'm talking about skill based. There's like a skill.

[D]

I think the biggest takeaway from all this is go home and watch this with your girl.

[A]

Oh, hell yeah.

[D]

Like, this is just an easy thing to, like, do.

[A]

And it's okay to watch and judge. Like, that's what we watch. We watch, watch.

[D]

Totally.

[A]

Maybe that's more than my perspective. It's like I'm allowed to judge it. That's why we're watching it, so we

[D]

can judge people, please. And I love watching Bravo because you can, like, talk over it. This is, like, perfect. Like, oh, pull out my phone. Who gives?

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Like, this is truly double screen watching. I don't feel weird about it.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, when I'm watching something scripted, I don't want to be on my phone. Like, someone might miss something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you might. One shot might be, like, so informative. This is not that.

[A]

This is just, like, perfect distraction tv. And maybe it's at the level where it's not so predatory that we can enjoy it. Where it's Dr. Phil passes predatory nature.

[B]

And you're like, these people are well paid. They're rich. They're in the Hamptons.

[D]

Why is so dark? Real Housewives of Beverly Hills has been really dark this season. And it's like, ugh. But this is so, like, you got the future ahead of you.

[A]

Perfect amount of dark. It's. The stakes are just high enough where we're like, I'm invested, but if there's not, like, children involved who are being torn apart so you don't feel bad, that's maybe that's why this is so exciting. It's like, I want something that I can just get distracted with, but I don't feel bad after watching.

[D]

And what Amanda just did to Sierra is something like, so rarely seen in the wild.

[A]

Girls doing that to other girls.

[D]

Yeah. Like, I think you grow out of that by 21.

[A]

I have a different theory on this. And we spoke about this yesterday.

[D]

Yeah. I don't agree with you.

[A]

I think girls, when they're in their 30s, every guy's fair game. I think when they feel that clock ticking, they're like, I got it.

[B]

I got single women.

[A]

Single women in their 30s and married, but they're breaking up.

[D]

So you're not married, but this is starting.

[A]

It might not be the right guy, but I think in her head, she's like, do I want to have kids? Do I want to have be married? Do I not want to be alone?

[D]

Kids with West. Disgusting.

[A]

Fair enough. But, you know, she wouldn't be the first person to choose the wrong guy of kids with. Of course that's what I say. Women, when they get into their 30s, it's like, do I not start a relationship with that guy that my friend hooked up with 10 years ago? This is really new. But 10 years ago, even though I kind of like him and he checked

[D]

all the boxes, is is something different in every case. You, like, go to Your friend and be like, what's up? But honestly, if I'm at the bar and I'm vibing with someone that I know has, like, done my friend wrong, it's psychologically impossible for me to catch a vibe. Yeah.

[C]

I think if west was like, well off, then that's something that's typical in women in their 30s. But to over your friend for no future, that's. We haven't seen that.

[A]

I think that's a great point for a potential future.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All of a sudden people go, yeah,

[C]

it's like, oh, okay, I can understand it's not a nice move. But at least there's no economic incentive

[D]

to be with West.

[A]

Not even economic, but like a future incentive. Like, you're telling me the guy's not going to take her serious? So now she's like, over a friend for a guy who's going to over

[D]

if he does take her serious. It's just a you to Sierra.

[C]

She is horrible.

[A]

Who, Amanda?

[C]

Yeah, Amanda's horrible.

[D]

It's bad. So I. I hope she can learn from this and, like, just leave west and like, become a better person to

[C]

put these on her too. But. But on our. Yeah.

[A]

What about bad people? What do the bikinis look like?

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

I mean, that's crazy. Why you just go the influencer. No, I'm just saying, like, the influencer economy doesn't work. Like, it worked for a little bit where like, it saturated, but it's.

[D]

I have two people I trust for like, specific things.

[A]

Okay, like what?

[C]

That was a good goddamn or bad goddamn.

[D]

This girl, like, 10 years ago got on YouTube. Her name is Makeup by Mandy24. She taught me how to do makeup 10 years years ago. I've never, like, gone to someone else for it.

[A]

Does she do. Does she have, like, her own brand of makeup?

[D]

I think she had now like, does content and like, drives Range Rover and like, has a whole life. But it's like she's.

[C]

Wait a minute.

[A]

This is.

[C]

This Amanda.

[D]

That's Amanda on the right.

[A]

She models her own stuff.

[D]

Yeah, these are.

[C]

We might have got it all wrong.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I might be team. Oh, man.

[C]

Just say I think they're all hot. We didn't do enough ready research before we started talking about this.

[A]

I'm happily married, man. Dude, I don't know what to tell you.

[C]

Same, same.

[D]

Also, like, getting off the E. Commerce is like, pretty lame.

[A]

No, that's all catalog was the go to. You get the Victoria's Secret magazine. Oh, that was a luxury.

[B]

Yeah, that's that's crazy.

[D]

How did you get that? As an only child, my mom worked

[A]

a salon, so I'd steal them out the bat baskets.

[B]

That's good. National Geographic world record records most photographed say that.

[A]

Yeah, that's a good one. And what is me. Who was it?

[D]

Who is it?

[B]

It was just some hot girl back in like 2001.

[A]

And you catch a lick off.

[B]

Yeah. Well, you never got the center folder.

[D]

There's such a generational difference. I feel like just because of our access to Internet, like I'm not even just. I have no idea what that would even be like. You can't have anything you want to see at any time.

[A]

This is how old I am. When I see like the amount of attract when we were growing up, it's felt like there weren't that many unbelievably attractive people. It felt like there was like 20.

[B]

And you lived in New York City

[A]

and I live in New York City now on Instagram. It's like every time you scroll like there's another person that you're like, oh my God. Like these people just exist in the wild.

[D]

Contributes to his inability to commit.

[A]

I think probably a lot of guys.

[B]

Society.

[D]

Yeah, it's all of us. I think we.

[A]

Oh. So he raised. Represents all these girls in New York City that are struggling to find a guy who will take them serious because guys feel like there's so many options there. So is he like the, the. The villain?

[D]

Yeah, he's. He. We've all dated a West. We've all stayed with a West way too long.

[A]

I see.

[D]

Yeah. Who's like still hooking up with other people, but you like him and like you have that strong friendship foundation, but like he's running around on you.

[A]

He's not taking it serious and you're

[C]

like, how old is west?

[A]

Him.

[D]

West is 30.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

Oh. Give him some time.

[A]

Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. See now, he was 42 or whatever the other guy was.

[D]

He's 43, she's 34. They're 30, son.

[C]

He's just living.

[D]

That's why summer house is so fun and indulgent, because it's like they will figure it out.

[A]

34 is a tough age for women.

[D]

Is that the expiration date?

[A]

No, it's not. But I think in their head, reality's starts to set in at like 35. Especially if you're a girl who's like obviously very beautiful and part of her identity is being like a young beautiful woman.

[C]

She's dating a 30 year old boy,

[D]

you already talked over your friend. You think you're going to be the exception.

[A]

But think about it. Maybe like you're 34, you're starting to see like the end of that ride as a superhero essentially like a beautiful woman that's in their 20s and maybe early 30s. It's like you're like I celebrity essentially and. But now you're 34, you're about to be 35, you're like oh, what's going on? Who is more validating to find you attractive than a young guy that gets all the girls?

[B]

Former college football player according to the Google search I just saw.

[A]

Like, like, like you're feeling your most insecure about your looks and like your identity.

[D]

So lame. Cuz like what you're saying, it usually makes sense for a single person but the fact that you've been like married is like.

[A]

Dude. I know, but that's when you're most vulnerable right after a relationship.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Don't you feel that way?

[D]

I just like want her to be single and like remember that there are other people in the world.

[A]

Well, we should talk to her.

[D]

We should talk to her.

[A]

Amanda.

[D]

Amanda.

[A]

Why people out there get off the show?

[C]

What A church is just being a

[B]

30 year old boy, bro.

[A]

But you're not though, dude.

[B]

I mean I'm not but I. Yeah. Go to. Yeah. Find God, Go to.

[A]

Go to church.

[B]

Love your family. Family homestead followed by whom? Scroll up real quick.

[A]

Oh,

[C]

she recorded at WTF before.

[B]

Yeah, A client. Friends.

[C]

She has. She has.

[A]

Al is crazy.

[C]

I'm team Sierra because she's gang.

[A]

Gang.

[B]

He was pretending like he didn't know this whole time.

[C]

She's gay.

[D]

She's. Yes.

[C]

I like that.

[A]

I'll make all the noises.

[C]

You can't. Yeah, appreciate that.

[A]

Oh, is she a model?

[D]

Yes. And a nurse influencer.

[A]

I mean why, why be on the show?

[D]

She, I think now the storyline about her like saving up to buy her grandparents house. Like I do think she's probably hitting a level of financial independence that she might not need the show, be on the show anymore.

[B]

Talking about some other girl trash coming off.

[A]

No.

[B]

What is that? Have you heard of this book? You've heard of this?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean this is wild.

[D]

So a girl book that you and Miles have read that you don't know? I don't know.

[B]

This got explained to me by proxy from a woman.

[A]

Ok.

[B]

It's a wild thing. This is apparently like one of the most like top selling books right now for women. Specifically in New York City. There's like this woman that was married for 20 years and all of a sudden her husband's not the person that she thought that he was.

[D]

Okay. A stranger.

[B]

She's a part of like the socialite upper crust New York City society and now they're in this big divorce. He's trying to ruin her life and she put it all in this like tell all expose book and all the girlies are talking about it.

[C]

Does he do the big strap on joints?

[A]

Like. Is this based on a true story?

[B]

It's a real thing that happened. It's just a. It's a reality show in a book.

[A]

What's the name of the. Of the.

[B]

Called the Stranger? No, no.

[A]

What's the name of the people?

[B]

I have no idea. This was explained to me by someone. I truly. That's the extent of what I know. I was hoping that Alex would know about this.

[D]

Honestly, someone had mentioned it and I

[A]

just said I belong burden. I also thought you were talking about the. Albert to the right a little bit.

[B]

So. Sorry.

[C]

Sorry.

[B]

I don't know. This the picture?

[C]

Oh, that's my studio, I think.

[A]

Let's go.

[C]

Wait, is it.

[D]

Oh, Al is actually the one who's laughing.

[C]

No, not in that much Good morning

[A]

America sorry, sorry type.

[B]

But yeah, apparently this is like the number one show but no one knows.

[D]

I don't want to read my reality tv.

[B]

See, but that's for the demo above you. You understand when I read, I want

[D]

it to be literature.

[B]

This. Oh, wow.

[C]

That's true.

[B]

Nirvana, the show, the band, the movie.

[D]

I heard I would really like that movie.

[B]

Yeah, I've never seen. I really don't understand what it's about. But regardless, can you rank these four people from the most moral to least moral?

[D]

Most.

[C]

Team Sierra all day.

[B]

Second.

[C]

Yes. Say it. Say it. Say it.

[A]

Say it.

[C]

It's true. Say it.

[D]

Fucking sucks.

[A]

Shouldn't yell at forever.

[B]

Yeah, it's a far horrible. It's a far second.

[D]

And to say like why will my wife support my DJ career? Is like ass.

[A]

No, that's not true.

[C]

That's.

[A]

That's not true at all.

[D]

What he's expecting is like you want

[A]

your, you know, future whatever to support your endeavors. I don't know what you want. I'm just. I'm just trying. That was good. Give my best. I want your future relationship to. I'm not talking about your relationship exactly. HR I don't want you to ever feel uncomfortable.

[D]

So I'm your captain now?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Fair enough. Okay.

[B]

No.

[C]

You want a supportive partner.

[B]

People want their spouses to support Yes.

[D]

I think what we're seeing here is him kind of expecting to be like the celebrity in the relationship who has a normie partner and she's kind of like, why. Why do I have to like be at your DJ shows?

[A]

One, two. Yeah.

[D]

Hesitant to three and four. Give me to me as a woman. I think Amanda is worse because this betrayal is so bad and you're cheating

[C]

on your husband and you choose on your husband.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And she cheated on herself. She cheated on three people.

[D]

Who's bad? I don't give a.

[A]

No, no, no.

[B]

She said until death do us part.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Two wrongs don't make.

[B]

She said sickness and health, good times and bad.

[D]

You know, she should have ended. Ended it like, exactly.

[C]

So she's.

[D]

Kyle's a hard dude to be loyal to.

[B]

She knew that before they got married.

[D]

Yeah. Then end it for sure. 30 year old boy.

[C]

He's doing exactly what he should be doing.

[A]

The most consistent guy in this love square.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Love chess game.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

He's a 30 year old boy out in the Hamptons. He's doing exactly what he should be doing right now.

[A]

Low key.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

But if this doesn't work out, like who the is having sex with west ever again?

[A]

Everyone.

[B]

All the girls look in his DMs.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Boys don't have a problem getting laid.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

No, but I'm just saying like the women. No. So true. But I think now and other girls. If you have sex with west now after this whole thing, you're gross.

[A]

More girls.

[C]

Yes. More women don't learn from other women. They have to learn for themselves.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I think people in general, human beings long for the love that they knew as a child. Even if that was. He might be a bad partner, but a lot of their parents might have been bad partners. So men and women will seek the pain that they know.

[D]

I mean that's where we got to like give Sierra Grace is her saying like, I don't have a relationship with my dad. My mom's been married a couple times. It bums me out. Like she's just human falling for a boy like this, you know, and he's just human. Do boys like get to have whatever they want?

[A]

Like they don't want that they're. He's going to be.

[C]

They want their mom grow out of it.

[D]

Do you think at 40 he'll be like, like, okay, I want a wife?

[B]

Maybe, maybe not. It's difficult to say, but ultimately what he deep down wants, it's difficult to say.

[C]

He's allowed to have whatever Most boys grow out of the boy era in your 20s. Most of the time, hey, you're just having fun.

[B]

And they leave behind a wake of destruction behind them.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, it's unfortunate.

[D]

I love being a girl cuz, like, when I behave that way, it's kind of fine. Like, I helped David draft a goodbye text, and I was like, I don't write the.

[A]

These ghost riding, ghost riding for David. I'm just warning you right now.

[D]

No, I know, I know, I know.

[A]

You got to pump the brains.

[D]

I'm pumping the brains.

[B]

I'm pumping the brain.

[D]

Well, I think I that be my

[A]

last warning, by the way. I feel totally comfortable with what I have said and shared on this podcast. And now it is up to you. And I will not take away your agency if you would like to share whatever you want.

[D]

Supports women.

[C]

I almost perceive House.

[D]

I say that to say the worst woman. How did I become the woman anyway? Amanda. I just want her to have, like, a girl era. Like, leave west, get out there.

[C]

No, she.

[D]

She's too old. The bikini. You liked what you saw.

[C]

No offense. I'm just saying, like, for her to go out there and become a girl.

[B]

Yeah, like.

[C]

Like, it's not a good look.

[D]

No, she doesn't look like 34.

[C]

It's not about that. She should be like, Sierra. Hey, just.

[A]

I'm one of guys to take me seriously.

[C]

Yeah, no, don't do a serious person.

[B]

Go to church, get baptized.

[D]

So why do women have to do that and men don't have to do that?

[B]

They also should do that.

[C]

They also should do that.

[B]

But women, unfortunately, do uphold a lot of the standards in relationships because men will just kind of take.

[A]

Yeah, you seen gay guys?

[B]

Men are psychotic.

[A]

I'm just saying, like, men are psychotic. Gay relationships, there's a lot of, like, open stuff. Women are the ones that, like, create the foundation for what a monogamous relationship is. And you take women out of it. There's no rules.

[D]

This is a genuine question. As a single person

[A]

without them, dudes just kind of like, hey, man, it is what it is. We're at the equinox with them. But that's steam room. Yes, they do.

[C]

Doing it. That's okay.

[A]

Oh, no, I'm not saying whether it's okay or not, but, like, the traditional values, we can talk all we want about, like, the patriarchy and the control the patriarchy has. The matriarchy is what upholds the traditional values.

[D]

And this is my question for you guys as, like, a single person with, like, not the most hopeful vibes of marriage.

[A]

She wants it.

[B]

She gonna.

[A]

She gonna deal with it. She gonna talk about Mark's face.

[D]

Looks.

[A]

I'm listening.

[D]

I just want to know from your guys perspective, do men benefit from that, like, monogamy? Like, women wanting to, like, pull it down?

[A]

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