JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

Summary

Summary of "Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh" Episode: JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

Release Date: January 2, 2025

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1. Introduction and Career Highlights

Andrew Schulz opens the episode by warmly welcoming JellyRoll, highlighting his recent explosive weekend in New York where he headlined Madison Square Garden, was the musical guest on SNL, and performed in Central Park. Schulz expresses his admiration for JellyRoll's achievements and personal commitment, mentioning how JellyRoll even found time to attend one of his stand-up shows at the Comedy Cellar.

Andrew Schulz [00:30]: "This guy is a mensch. He managed to even make time to come out and see one of my little standups at the Comedy Cellar."

2. JellyRoll’s Weight Loss Journey

JellyRoll delves into his personal battle with weight, discussing how he has lost 100 lbs and the profound impact it has had on his life. He shares candid insights about his struggles with weight and its effects on his health and personal relationships.

JellyRoll [02:32]: "I’m down 100... I lost weight, the pouch goes back, the pecker comes out."

He emphasizes the importance of discipline and how his weight loss journey has brought clarity not just physically but mentally and creatively, enhancing his music, writing, and overall productivity.

JellyRoll [04:16]: "I don’t want to say I’ve overcome it, but I haven’t eaten anything for so long now... I just thought about this the other day that I've been such an obese human and fought food addiction for so long."

3. Overcoming Addiction and Personal Growth

JellyRoll opens up about his past struggles with addiction, particularly cocaine, and how therapy and self-help have been instrumental in his path to recovery. He discusses the challenges of avoiding destructive content and the importance of consuming positive media to foster personal growth.

JellyRoll [05:55]: "I’ve done a lot of therapy, just a lot of self-help, a lot of what I consume... things that get me out of dark holes."

4. Navigating Relationships with Eminem and Machine Gun Kelly (MGK)

A significant portion of the conversation centers around JellyRoll’s unique position between two major figures in the rap industry: Eminem and Machine Gun Kelly. He explains how Paul Rosenberg, Eminem’s long-time manager, has been a staunch supporter of his career and has facilitated connections between him and Eminem.

JellyRoll [14:03]: "Paul Rosenberg has been Eminem's manager since Eminem's had a manager. Lifelong Detroit homie kind of shit."

JellyRoll recounts attempts to collaborate with Eminem and shares his perspective on the infamous beef between Eminem and MGK, suggesting that such conflicts might ultimately benefit both artists by broadening their individual influences.

JellyRoll [19:49]: "They’re gonna get together one day eventually. It’s inevitable... it did more for both of them than it did to hurt Eminem."

He also touches upon MGK’s transition to arena rock and how JellyRoll perceives this shift as a positive evolution within the music industry.

JellyRoll [20:54]: "He's thinking outside of the box, man. I wonder who's doing all that production for him."

5. Insights on the Music Industry and Genre Crossovers

JellyRoll offers his observations on how genre boundaries are shifting, particularly with mainstream artists like Beyoncé venturing into country music. He criticizes the traditional boundaries of Nashville's country music scene, advocating for a more inclusive and expansive definition of the genre.

JellyRoll [96:01]: "Nashville is a small community trying to keep country music as a boundary list genre... they never allowed country to get put into sub-genres like rock did."

He defends Beyoncé's country album, arguing that the artistry and impact merit recognition, despite industry hesitations.

JellyRoll [96:05]: "The record was good... it was a big nod and they just missed it because Nashville wasn't ready for it."

6. Touring Experiences and Comedic Anecdotes

The hosts and JellyRoll share numerous humorous and candid stories from their touring experiences. JellyRoll recounts mishaps such as performing on SNL for a dress rehearsal audience and dealing with urgent personal needs on stage, illustrating the unpredictable nature of live performances.

JellyRoll [34:38]: "I nailed dress rehearsal... They did run the skit on YouTube but not on TV."

Andrew Schulz adds his own comedic stories about on-stage accidents, further emphasizing the blend of humor and honesty that characterizes the podcast.

7. Promotions and Advertisements

Throughout the episode, the hosts introduce various promotions and sponsorships, including Capella University, Black Rifle Coffee, BlueChew, and American Financing. These segments are seamlessly integrated into the conversation, maintaining the podcast's comedic and unapologetic tone.

Andrew Schulz [55:22]: "Black Rifle Coffee, not another color rifle... Get your day started in the most American patriotic way possible."

8. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

In the closing segments, JellyRoll reflects on the importance of maintaining personal relationships and balancing fame with genuine connections. He emphasizes the necessity of taking time away from the rigors of touring to nurture personal well-being and relationships.

JellyRoll [66:59]: "It's important every now and then to go out... to live a little."

Andrew Schulz echoes these sentiments, discussing the challenges of fatherhood and the importance of carving out quality time with loved ones amidst a hectic career.

Andrew Schulz [67:36]: "Creating those times is important for growth... make sure you’re both getting what you need from each other within that change."

The episode wraps up with expressions of mutual support and excitement for future projects, including upcoming performances at Stagecoach and continued collaborations.

JellyRoll [71:08]: "I'm fixing to do this record. It's the second biggest song in the world right now."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• JellyRoll [02:32]: "I’m down 100... I lost weight, the pouch goes back, the pecker comes out."

• JellyRoll [05:55]: "I’ve done a lot of therapy, just a lot of self-help, a lot of what I consume... things that get me out of dark holes."

• JellyRoll [14:03]: "Paul Rosenberg has been Eminem's manager since Eminem's had a manager. Lifelong Detroit homie kind of shit."

• JellyRoll [19:49]: "They’re gonna get together one day eventually. It’s inevitable... it did more for both of them than it did to hurt Eminem."

• JellyRoll [96:01]: "Nashville is a small community trying to keep country music as a boundary list genre... they never allowed country to get put into sub-genres like rock did."

• Andrew Schulz [55:22]: "Black Rifle Coffee, not another color rifle... Get your day started in the most American patriotic way possible."

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Key Takeaways:

• JellyRoll’s Personal Growth: A deep dive into his weight loss journey and overcoming addiction, highlighting the importance of mental and physical health in his life and career.

• Industry Relationships: Insightful discussions on navigating relationships with major artists like Eminem and MGK, and the impact of industry dynamics on artist collaborations.

• Genre Evolution: Critique of traditional genre boundaries within Nashville’s country music scene and support for artists like Beyoncé venturing into new musical territories.

• Touring Realities: Humorous yet honest anecdotes about the unpredictabilities and challenges of live performances.

• Balancing Fame and Personal Life: Emphasis on maintaining genuine personal relationships and the crucial need for downtime amidst a demanding career.

This episode offers listeners an unfiltered and candid look into JellyRoll’s multifaceted life, blending personal anecdotes with insightful industry commentary, all delivered in the signature irreverent style of "Flagrant."

Transcript

[Jelly Roll]

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[Jelly Roll]

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[Andrew Schulz]

What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant. Today is the second coming of a dear, brave, courageous friend of ours who has kind of just absolutely exploded. I mean, he had a weekend in New York where he was not only headlining Madison Square Garden, was not only the musical guest for snl, he was not only performing for all of Central park or something. I don't even know what the. That was crazy. He managed. This is what I mensch this guy is. He managed to even make time to come out and see one of my little standups at the Comedy Cellar. Give it up for our dear friend Jelly. I have to say, like, I felt so. I was telling my wife this. I felt like, so guilty because I promised my wife that we would go out. We would go out to this place in the Hamptons that we have. And I was like, I promise we would go. And then your weekend in New York happened and I was just like, you know, this is the one weekend away we're away every single weekend on the road and everything's crazy with the special. And I'm like, I feel so bad. I'm going to miss. I'm like, all right. @. He'll make MSG. Don't make. @ least he'll make us. I'm feeling the worst friend. And you could have. You could have let me feel okay by just leaving. But instead you're like, I'll just come to you, baby.

[Jelly Roll]

Like, I'll just come to one of your.

[Andrew Schulz]

So that's. What a great guy.

[Jelly Roll]

What a.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're a great guy. But you make me feel like a real piece of. Tell me, tell me, dog. Tell me you're a piece of. Why?

[Jelly Roll]

Why?

[Andrew Schulz]

Cuz we went to that the boys.

[Jelly Roll]

Did represent on Yalls behalf.

[Andrew Schulz]

You should have charged them first.

[Jelly Roll]

Just know I am a traveling man, Bubble.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Jelly Roll]

So y'all know me in real life? Nope. No. Felt that in my soul, man. Cuz God knows if me and Bunny get a weekend away. Ah, man, listen. I don't care if Jesus comes To Nashville to perform. God, you know how much I love the Lord, man. We got us a weekend, baby. Come on.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, God bless.

[Jelly Roll]

God is everywhere, dude. He'll come to us. He's been coming to me.

[Andrew Schulz]

Skinny now, how much are you down? How much?

[Jelly Roll]

I'm down 100.

[Andrew Schulz]

This globe is since the first time.

[Jelly Roll]

I've got to say it. I'm down 100.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're down 103 digits. How's Dick came, man?

[Jelly Roll]

Crazy. It's coming back. Me and my wife just had this conversation because, you know, I've struggled with my weight my whole life, and she's seen me get really big and see me lose weight before. So I was like, yo, am I tripping or is like, it not? It was a lot faster last time as far as even losing the weight and getting the dick back. So I was like, am I tripping? And she's like, listen, my wife is the most honest human on earth. She goes, daddy, you're a little older now. We might have to just get that thing cut off. Because I'm like a kangaroo with a pouch above my pecker. You know what I'm saying? I lose weight, the pouch goes back, the pecker comes out. So I found myself in this juxt position where I'm losing the weight here, but the pouch is still pouching. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I gotta look exactly.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, that's fine.

[Jelly Roll]

No, it's not.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, that's fire. Because it didn't work always.

[Jelly Roll]

You know what I love about y'all? It's my biggest week. That's how we started. See y'all again.

[Andrew Schulz]

I like this. I like this that you have that nice little area that's. Cuz you got to make her work for it. Listen, how bad do you want it? Listen, it's like a hand warmer for us.

[Jelly Roll]

This is you. This is now. No, I feel good, though, man. I'm losing weight. I was telling you. That's why we've quit talking about it. I'm hitting that moment where you start to hit a stride in it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay. In weight loss or just in life?

[Jelly Roll]

In everything. Like, just the clarity. The clarity is coming with the weight loss, the music, the writing, the tour, the production. But even down to, like, my discipline of, like, I have. I don't want to say I've overcome it, but, dude, I haven't ate anything. It's been so long now. I don't even think about it, really. Like, I just thought about this the other day that I've been such an obese. Human and fought food addiction so long, Andrew, that I would walk into rooms and make assessments of what was in there that I could snack on.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're like James Bourne, literally, like on.

[Jelly Roll]

Some super fat shit. I'd be like, yo, there's a can of Snickers. I got a little bowl here, there's a dressing can there, These kind of things. You know how to be having the cans with the little baby Snickers.

[Andrew Schulz]

I like that.

[Jelly Roll]

And now it's like the man. I'm in the dressing room the other day and there was a. I don't. I. I didn't even notice the candy in the dressing room until somebody said, do you want one of these?

[Akash Singh]

Oh.

[Jelly Roll]

And then I was like, just. I'm not even thinking like that no. More like, it's just not even. I remember when I caught that with drugs.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Like, the first time that I found myself in an environment where people were doing cocaine and I wasn't like, gotta get out of the room. You know what? I just like, oh, yeah, I used to do that. That was all right. You know what I mean? Like, we have. You.

[Akash Singh]

Have you struggle with drugs like you said, My family, we have a lot of addiction. But like, I noticed my dad. No, that. That's pleasure.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's fun.

[Akash Singh]

Addiction's not fun.

[Andrew Schulz]

It destroys families.

[Akash Singh]

But no, there's. I noticed, like, my brother stopped drinking and my dad stopped drinking and went to food. I have a little bit of a food thing too, but they, they're the same. Is it just like an addictive personality? You let go of one for a lesser one and then eventually, hopefully you let go of food for maybe work or whatever. But like, you think that's just the progression of it?

[Jelly Roll]

I'm not 100% sure. Because I was fat and doing cocaine, I could jump a fucking chainsaw with that skill set, you know. But I found myself. I don't know, man. I think it's. For me is I'm just starting to do the real work on me and I'm starting to really start to come to peace and find myself in situations.

[Akash Singh]

What does that entail, the work on you?

[Jelly Roll]

As cliche as it sounds, I've done a lot of therapy, just a lot of self help, a lot of what I consume, you know, I didn't realize that not just what I was consuming was making me huge and making me feel bad and inflamed, but what I was listening to, the kind of stuff, the rabbit holes I found myself going in, like these, you know, just like darker Shit comedy. No, no, no, no. That's the shit that gets me out of. I can laugh about this. This would, like. You find yourself in just, like, you know, dark holes of just what you even listen to or intake or. Then your timeline becomes full of it.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I mean? Dude, that's the problem.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah. It's the wild west, dude. You accidentally stumble on one dude, blown off Venezuela, and for three days you're like, I can't touch my phone.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

It's nuts, man. You know what I mean? It's wild. But I get. And those paths for me wasn't always Internet rabbit holes. Yeah. These are the self ones that I struggle with. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? When I just get alone in these little rabbit holes and I'm doing better at those now, man. I'm just thinking better, dude. I'm feeling better.

[Andrew Schulz]

I knew you were doing well, man. I knew that you were making, like, ridiculous money because you brought a guy out to dinner with us, and he was. And you said, this is my philanthropy guy.

[Jelly Roll]

Wow.

[Andrew Schulz]

Are you Mr.

[Akash Singh]

Beast?

[Andrew Schulz]

I was like, what? He's like, yeah, he handles all my philanthropy.

[Jelly Roll]

I like that. That's.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's a different level of money when you're like, other people need some of this money.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is the guy that gives it away. Yeah. You got a guy to give away your money? Yeah, we're married for that. We don't need. We don't need people. That is a problem. We don't need, like, we need a guy to stop her from giving it away to her charity. She thinks Hermes is a charity. This French making billions.

[Jelly Roll]

We're 16 minutes in, and I'm like, I up. Why do I do this every time?

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, beautifully broken. Stream it.

[Jelly Roll]

Stream it right now. Beautifully broken.

[Andrew Schulz]

Beautifully broke real quick. Beautifully broke. The rest of us. This guy owns his masters, okay? God damn, man. I mean, this guy, he was like a handsome. He looked like Billy Crudo. I thought he was Billy Crudup for the whole time. I was like, oh, my God, we got fucking Billy Crudup with us.

[Jelly Roll]

Like, you know, the best part is it was such a Schultz moment. I often forget you and Tony are my two friends that I forget about this until I'm out with y'all. Oh, yeah.

[Akash Singh]

I know where you're going.

[Jelly Roll]

That y'all are knife of men. You know what I'm saying? You're just like a knife of a man. You know what I mean?

[Akash Singh]

I think I know what you mean.

[Jelly Roll]

You get it? Like, the room. This my dude is quietly observing. He's maybe interjected once or twice. Just enough results to go. So how do you fit into this? What's your story?

[Andrew Schulz]

I was like, why the Is Billy Crudup right here like that? Seeing sushi at zero bombs the way you are with Tandy, bro. That's how he is with gossip. I needed to make sense of it. And then Jelly goes, oh, that's my philanthropy guy. I'm like, damn, Billy Crudup doing rough right now, bro. He's the philanthropy guy.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah. That was the worst way to frame him. His name's Miles Adcox.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Yes, he does look a lot like him in that one picture. But he actually does a lot of. In the mental health space. He owns a big company called On Site in Tennessee. There's one in San Diego. It's like a mental wellness retreat. It's done a lot for me. A lot for me and my mom.

[Akash Singh]

You're depressed in San Diego.

[Jelly Roll]

Kill you. Yeah, right. You doing.

[Akash Singh]

How you even do that?

[Andrew Schulz]

That's on the screen right now.

[Akash Singh]

Nah, nah, nah.

[Jelly Roll]

It's over.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's over N. It's over n San Diego.

[Akash Singh]

How do you find a way to.

[Jelly Roll]

Be depress San Diego.

[Akash Singh]

How do you find that f. You.

[Jelly Roll]

Know what I mean?

[Akash Singh]

Position Anchorage or something?

[Jelly Roll]

This is already a good voice. Let's go.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, for Jelly, man completely crossed over. It was going so good, so I'm.

[Jelly Roll]

Glad I did this after Saturday night out.

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly. Never exactly. Just hit a str public.

[Jelly Roll]

This is firing me tomorrow. Exactly.

[Andrew Schulz]

You should have learned from the music video last time. Every time we hang out, it's just a little dip, but then it goes even higher. It goes down to go up.

[Jelly Roll]

It's how it worked. That's the army, baby. All right.

[Andrew Schulz]

We gotta get Billy Crud up off the street. Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

I keep looking at it like I'm scared. Me. What did he. I don't even remember what he was in. No. But I came in and I was like, look, man, we do give away a lot of money. And I was like, I do need somebody to help me. I don't have. I can't, man. I feel so bougie saying this, but y'all are relate. Because this is just real life. This is how I would talk if we went on a pod. I just have too much incoming to give anything the proper time it deserves almost. You know what I mean? Like, in any major business. Yeah, you're managing this. But when I know that, I feel like it's been on my heart that I Need to give back. So he's so cool. He's got such a big infrastructure for his other business. He'll just put his people on it, like, hey, we all, you know, go find. This is what he wants. He wants to do this amount of soup kitchens, this amount of juvenile facilities. And now it's caused a chain reaction where. When I go to venues now, you know how venues give us our gifts when we play these arenas? You've been doing them longer than me. We get gifts. They give you jerseys and a box and all kind of stuff. Everyone tries to give you something cooler in the last arena, it's the coolest shit ever. But now they'll always all donate a check to a charity in that city in, like, honor of what they know I stand for. So it's like Jersey, right? Yeah, I'll still get to Jersey.

[Andrew Schulz]

Don't give it to them kids.

[Jelly Roll]

Yo, the Boston Celtics. Let me hold the thing.

[Andrew Schulz]

I saw sick.

[Jelly Roll]

It was crazy.

[Akash Singh]

They got like 18 of them.

[Jelly Roll]

You know what's crazy? I stood over and took pictures for like 3 minutes before they were like, you can touch it. I was like, I wish y'all. I'd have been finger this.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I'm saying?

[Jelly Roll]

It was crazy. Yeah. So now it's become a thing where, you know. So, yeah, I have a guy that really. He's a great guy, man. So he helps with that. Cuz we try to do a lot, man. We try to. I want to help as many people as possible.

[Akash Singh]

I mean, you're a great guy.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're the great connector, I've realized, because you have this song. Oh, that was it. You also did Fallon. We were watching Fallon that night. I can't believe I left out one of the things that was part of that weekend as well. So you and MGK do Fallon. MGK is hanging out with you also. Great guy.

[Jelly Roll]

This is mgk. That's why I'm bringing. That's why I. It was funny.

[Andrew Schulz]

We had this moment where he was like, yeah, I don't understand. Why don't people think that I'm like, a nice guy sometimes? And I'm like, well, let's look at the outfits a little. And I remember he, like, looked at somebody. He goes like, okay, I get that one. He was wearing, like a pig furry shirt. He's like, yeah, that one I get. He's like, I like wearing stupid shit, but that was a little far.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah, that was the best. Because he'd go, I stand on that one. But yeah, that one was horrible. Yeah, so funny to watch you and him have that moment.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, he was a great dude. And that is what often happens, I think, in this business is that you might have a perception of people, and then you get to a point where you start meeting them, and you're, like, all a lot of times surprised at them being, like, really nice people and, like, sweet people.

[Akash Singh]

All right, Cucks, let's do some dates. January 9th through 11th. I don't know why they gave me those dates, to be honest with you. Now that I think about it. Size splitters in Tampa. I feel a little way about that. I'm Gonna be honest. January 23rd through 25th, Sacramento. Those tickets will sell out, I promise you. They sold out two years ago, and I wasn't even really selling tickets back then. January 31st through February 1st. West Des Moines, Iowa. Again, I cannot believe there's an east Des Moines, but West Des Moines, Iowa. I'm be at the funny bone. February 21st and 22nd. I'm gonna be in Brea, California. You know you guys love me. February 28th through March. For March 1st, I'm gonna be in Nashville, Tennessee. We got more. And I think I'm gonna be in San Diego one of those times as well. Either way, guys come through. Love y'all. Akash Singh.com for tickets. Thank you so fucking much. This year was awesome. Sold out, I think, shows for six months straight. This weekend, I had the first show. I didn't sell out, but still such a fucking awesome year. Love you guys. Thank you so much. Let's get back to the show.

[Andrew Schulz]

The interesting thing about that is you're with mgk. You have a song with mgk. You also have a song with Eminem.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, these guys are mortal enemies. And somehow you are so talented that you are positioned in between both of them, and they're like, I still want to work with jelly roll.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

How do you manage that, man?

[Jelly Roll]

The first thing is honesty, okay? Right. You got to come into both parties honest.

[Andrew Schulz]

How do you talk to em?

[Jelly Roll]

Well, so Paul is. And I always bring up Paul in interviews because I feel like he never gets brought up enough.

[Andrew Schulz]

Paul is Paul Rosenberg.

[Jelly Roll]

Paul Rosenberg has been Eminem's manager since Eminem's had a manager. Okay. Lifelong Detroit homie kind of shit. Like, really cool Inception story. Cool story about Eminem is his. His, I believe, his publicist. His assistant who kind of runs the record label. I don't want to call her assistant because she's so much more.

[Andrew Schulz]

Sure.

[Jelly Roll]

But he's had, like, the same four People around him for his entire career.

[Akash Singh]

Wow.

[Jelly Roll]

Entire career. Amazing. So you don't really talk to, you know. He's the wizard, man. He's the biggest selling artist of our generation. He sold more records than Elvis. You know what I mean? I mean, it's insane when you think about how big, you know, you don't really get to see the Wizard a lot. But I've seen the wizard now and hung out with him and he's a fucking great guy. You know what I mean? Really down to earth. He's super honest and he's very intentional with his words. And we. I mean, we hung out on video set for 12 hours.

[Andrew Schulz]

Wow.

[Jelly Roll]

Just like dicking around to show you his personality. He walks in my green room going, somebody shave me. I need some Gillette. He said, we can get you a deal there. And just fucking funny.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's the first interaction.

[Jelly Roll]

So the first thing. No, no, no. The first one we have when we're singing. I'll tell you that story, too. But just let me praise Paul for two more minutes. He deserves it. Paul has always been trying to get me and Em together. Like, every time I've seen, he's like, if Marshall don't understand anybody else, he's gonna get you. When he gets you, he's gonna get you. And he's telling me this for, like, since I met him when he was working with Yellow Wolf a decade ago.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, wow.

[Jelly Roll]

You know what I mean? So, like, Paul has been that champion for me the whole way. So Paul calls and he's like, send me the Save Me record. And I'm like, y'all mind if I tell this story first? Because it's hard to get it all. Please.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Cause I don't think I've told this one like his. So Paul calls and he's like, send the stems to the Save Me record. He calls John Manili, my manager. Now, keep in mind, John Manili managed Jay for a while, so they've already worked. They have a real. They're friends for real for 30 years now. They've been in the business together for 25 years. So he hits. He hits John and Ely's like, yo, send over Save Me. I think Marshall wants to fuck with it. And that's all he said. So you know me, I'm like, you know how rap works? I'm like, I'm fixing to get an Eminem remix. Like, he's just gonna drop a verse in my lap one day. Like, I don't know when and I don't care. Whenever it comes just. Thank you, God. You know? And I had already told Kells that story back then. And Kells is a real friend. You know where Kells is just like, yo, that's huge. Keep me posted. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's cheering for me. Like, at heart, his heart is like. You know what I mean? Like, yo, man, you don't have a problem.

[Akash Singh]

Kell's being mgk.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah, sorry. Kell's being mgk. He's like, yo, you don't have a problem. So this is like. I probably shouldn't timestamp it too much months ago.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, wow.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah. So I get to the point, I don't think it's coming.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

I'm kind of just like, ah, it didn't happen. It's whatever, you know, it works. And then I get the call. It's like, yo, what's going on? The record. It's closing the record. I'm like, what? Second single? They want to shoot a video. Now, keep in mind, me and Kels are. We hung out at the Grammys. We had both lost, and we ended up on what we call the Loser Tour. That night. We went to all these, like, weird, crazy, like, Illuminati parties. It was weird, dude. And we went to, like, three or four of them. Like, it was no, no, no baby oil bashes. But I went in and we went to all these weird parties. And he had played me the idea for Lonely Road that night. So this is, you know, three, four months after. Me and Kells have already worked on two or three records together. We're hanging out every day. I'm in LA a bunch. I don't have a friend out there. I only know him. It's like, still you talking about? When I pull up on you, Bubba, you're my only friend here. What do you mean I'm gonna pull up on you? I don't know nobody. You're my only friend.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, that makes me feel less special.

[Jelly Roll]

I feel like I love you. I'm looking for my Bubba. What I'm saying. So me and. Me and him are hanging every day. And I'm like, yo, this. This. This Eminem thing's real. I was like, it's fixing to come out. And they want. They. They want to do all this now. We're already in there now. On the other side, we're. John's having to do straight business with Paul. Like, hey, Paul, you know, Kels and Jelly have known each other for 15 years, on and off. They were Beef and Jelly Dissed them. I was a hater back then. It's a whole fun other fun story. Yeah. It's like. But they, you know, they're buddies and. And here's where. Paul's a good dude too. Paul's like, yo, man, we love Jelly, man. Just appreciate. Appreciate you telling us.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Y never got brought up. Wow. My heart is always to bring them together one day. Cuz I see so much more of them in each other than they know.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

You know what I mean? Now, I hadn't really brought it up to Marshall yet because I'm just still. Just kind of glad that I'm still in that circumference to be able to have them conversations. But I do see, like, there's so much more in them than not. But, like, I also gave Kel some perspective too. Was like, we all grew up watching Eminem take over the game early. Like, yeah, if you got mentioned in an Eminem song, it was like getting mentioned in a comedy special. Yeah. You were on fucking fire. Yeah. Yeah. You couldn't be hotter if you got mentioned in an Eminem special or an HBO special.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

You know what I'm saying? An Eminem song or an HBO special is what you wanted your name to be brought.

[Andrew Schulz]

I also think that that beef between MGK and Eminem, like that verse from MGK was I think, the most underrated.

[Akash Singh]

Actually.

[Andrew Schulz]

I thought it was rated. Like, I think most people looked at that and they're like, whoa, this was way better than I thought. And then I think Eminem's verse, I don't think people thought that he absolutely knocked him out the park. Like, I thought that they, the people, the reaction to it was, this is more competitive than we thought it was going to be. So I think that MGK's respect went up.

[Akash Singh]

Well, what's interesting is over time, it's changed in the moment. I remember that being the response. And now when people look back on it, they're like, oh, Eminem ended MGK's rap career because MGK transitioned in other stuff. And so I think the narrative got written, rewritten that way. But I remember in the moment people being like, yo, I don't think MGK necessarily got destroyed.

[Andrew Schulz]

But, you know, the only thing I'll.

[Jelly Roll]

Say to touch on this because I'm on a slippery slope. Yeah, you gotta be very careful.

[Andrew Schulz]

Just not.

[Jelly Roll]

Just not is everything Andrew just said right now, I want the flagrant listeners to know he said to mgk, I watch y'all have the same conversation, which I think is super cool. But but here's how I feel. Look, man, they're gonna get together one day eventually. It's inevitable. The world's a circle, you know what I mean? And I think that they're gonna find each other's heart more than they don't. And if they never do connect that way, I think that it did more for both of them than it did to hurt E. Whether either party ever fully acknowledged that. What MGK did after that, I don't think had anything to do with the Beef as much as just Hart and what his spirit was, because he technically dropped. I think Hotel Diablo was the project right after the end beef. Don't quote me, but it was the two. It was the mainstream sellout, and it was the tickets to my downfall that changed. We're talking about a couple of the biggest out. They'll go down as the biggest albums of this generation. And pop in. In pop punk and punk rock and maybe in rock and roll. Like new music from new recording artists. In ten years of rock music, I think those albums will be the biggest selling.

[Andrew Schulz]

Because that's the thing that, like, let that one sit.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, and I told him this too. Like, I. What I saw is him as a rapper. Knew him as a rapper. Then I saw him become an arena ax rock star.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And I knew that I was getting old. Cause I was like, what is happening? What happened? Did you feel that way as well?

[Jelly Roll]

I didn't know when the switch happened.

[Andrew Schulz]

But he went to arenas and so something must have been resonating with the rock music on a different level than rap. I also think it's hard to be like an arena rap star. Like, how many arena rap acts are there?

[Jelly Roll]

You know, we were talking about this before.

[Andrew Schulz]

Em's like stadium.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah. Eminem stadium's for sure. Eminem Stadium.

[Andrew Schulz]

But like, arenas around, like Drake.

[Jelly Roll]

How tall are we? Let's go step deeper. Eminem's a plus one at most stadiums.

[Andrew Schulz]

So he could do two stadium shows.

[Jelly Roll]

Yes, he's a plus one. Most stadiums in America.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's good.

[Jelly Roll]

I mean. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

I mean, that's. That's like Taylor Swift.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah. 100%. Wow.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Akash Singh]

He was Taylor of ranch.

[Jelly Roll]

Even now to this day, like.

[Andrew Schulz]

But let's. What are the arena acts? It's like Kendrick.

[Akash Singh]

Kendrick, Nikki.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think Nikki like this unbelievable following.

[Jelly Roll]

Nikki did a ring. She came to Nashville. Travis, Travis. Travis. Who is Megan and Glow. Is it a Megan and Glow? The package right now? Because they're doing arenas right now. Megan and Glow together are doing arena.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's still Packaged like I. I'm curious and maybe magnifies.

[Jelly Roll]

Red hot.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

I love everything. She's so Memphis. She. First of all, she's the best human ever. Like, when I met her, she was. I was like, I grew up going back and forth to Memphis my whole life. Like coming up under three six Mafia. I was like, please let her be as Memphis as it looks. Yeah, let it like off camera, let it be as Memphis as she is. Oh, she is so Memphis. She. It's. It's like talking to Project Pat. It is awesome, dude. It is incredible how Memphis she is. But they're doing. They're full blown arenas now.

[Andrew Schulz]

Now they're killing.

[Jelly Roll]

Hold on. Who in the backpack rap space. Second, I hate to use that phrase, but like, who from that space? Suicide Boys are doing an arena tour right now. Whether you acknowledge them as rappers or not, I think they're sick as. I love the Suicide Boys, but I know they're doing arenas because we're on their ass every night. They're playing Tuesdays and Thursdays like us. Wow. And they're selling almost clean everywhere they're going.

[Andrew Schulz]

Wow. Oh, that's awesome. It's just a rare thing. It's like, especially in the rap space, it's rarefied air. It's. Listen to his rap music is.

[Jelly Roll]

When they did the west coast package, I remember they did like the. Whatever they labeled the west coast package. It had Cube.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh. I mean, when 50 went back, 50.

[Jelly Roll]

Went out and did it.

[Andrew Schulz]

He was doing it. But then again, one of the biggest rappers ever. It's like Kanye. Yeah. It's just a hard thing for rappers to do for whatever reason. For as much as we listen to rap, as popular as rappers are as like seen and notice and recognize, it doesn't translate to ticket sales in the way that like maybe country does. Definitely doesn't as rock. Edm, you could argue is like over indexing. There are EDM DJs that I have no fucking clue their name. There's an EDM DJ named Anima Anima that is doing the Sphere in Las Vegas and they've added shows. So now they're at like six or seven shows or something like that for New Year's Eve, plus others. Did you guys know who this guy was? I mean, no disrespect to him. I did. You guys did it. You did.

[Jelly Roll]

Do you know Fred again?

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, he's great. That guy's fucking massive.

[Jelly Roll]

Fred again was on our new artist Grammy list this year. That's how I kind of got hip to him, you know, And I was joking with Noah about it. We were joking about all the, you know who all we were, Me, Noah and I think Gracie Abrams were all talking at the table. And I said, the funny part of this is Fred. I don't even think Fred again came to the Grammys, by the way. I'm not sure. I don't think he even showed up, but if he did, I didn't get to meet him. And he's going to make more money than all of us put together when it's all sold. And yeah, it's crazy.

[Andrew Schulz]

He's doing crazy. He's doing a stadium show where he'll like have a beat stage in like the nosebleeds. They did a wild thing. They did a. Okay, I'm going to fuck this up probably. But with msg, what they wanted to do is go on sale the day before the show. So they wanted 24 hour notice. And I think that they couldn't because of like a Ticketmaster regulate something like that. So then maybe it was like a few days. They sell it out immediately and then they do the show. And then for the show I'm going to butcher this and somebody will fucking correct me. Whatever. They keep the lights on. I think they start the show at like in the afternoon and they keep the lights on until it's 8 or 10 or whatever it is. And that moment the lights switch and just imagine the energy building, building, building. And then he treated the MSG like it was a club. Cause it wasn't even like the normal end stage. This was like it mixed in the room. And then he did it with Skrillex. Okay, okay, okay. Because I think we spoke to his manager when we were in Vegas. Anyway, what a creative idea. Yeah, bro. He did one where he was at, I think it was at the Hollywood bowl and he got all the people that came to his very first show when he went to LA and It was like 200, 300 people and put them in the Hollywood bowl in one section and did a private show for those like 300 people. That's fire. The day before the actual LA Coliseum show, he created like this LED moat around the entire bowl of a stadium so that everyone had that and then did the bch.

[Jelly Roll]

He's thinking outside of the box, man. I wonder who's doing all that production for him. Well, that.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, yeah, I mean, back at you, like the guys. And I want to hear your guys, you know, reflection on, on your show. But what everybody came to me and they're like, oh, this was amazing. And there was this, it. There was so much creativity added to it, but like the explosiveness was awesome. And I was talking to a guy about EDM or whatever. I don't know anything about edm, okay? But I was talking about a guy with some edm and he said something interesting because I asked him to play that anima guy or animal, I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right. And it was like an hour long set and it started like real hard, kind of like pumping stuff. And I was like, I don't know if it's nine. He goes, yeah, but it's an hour long set. And I go, so? And he goes, well, like the first 20, 30 minutes, he's just getting everybody heart rate up to from 80 beats to like 110. And I go, why? So that they can do this big drop. He goes, it'd be different if he was just doing like five songs. As a comedian, you think about these things, but not. You're not as tied into like somebody's biochemistry as like you are with music. So when you're setting up your set, are you. If you have that hour and a half or two, how long is your set?

[Jelly Roll]

95 minutes.

[Andrew Schulz]

So 95 minutes. Are you considering that? Are you like, okay, we're, we're slowly bringing them in. Everybody, same page, Everybody, same page.

[Jelly Roll]

Bill.

[Andrew Schulz]

Bill.

[Jelly Roll]

A little different.

[Andrew Schulz]

But can you break down like what you're thinking when you're creating the set?

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah, every, of course, every show's different. Every tour just kind of like you with the life. But for me, this particular tour, I was like, I wanted to make a real statement at the beginning of the show. Like, it was important to me not to, like. Cause like, the trick is either you come out to like an uptempo hit that people know, and then you kind of, kind of play into the crowd and then you kind of bring them into the couple songs they don't know. And the set slowly ran and slowly ramps up. And the last four songs, the bangers, the biggest four songs, this is like Rock and Roll 101. And I was like, so I've always tried to stay away from that model. Like, not to like give away too much of what I do, but like, immediately I'm like, fuck, that model sucks. You know what I'm saying? Like, fucking. Even from my perspective, it's expected, like.

[Andrew Schulz]

And also, yeah, 100% gone.

[Jelly Roll]

So I was like, what if we come out and the first thing we do, I blow one of the biggest gags I have. I mean, I walk straight into the arena and all eyes on thing that happens, right? And I drop. I'm not okay out the gate, you know what I mean? So it's the first thing I'm doing. I mean, I'm walking right in and, like, fucking balls on table, you know what I'm saying? And I'm doing an effect, right? I'm doing an extra thing that happens. It's like, even if I look right now and tell you, you know, what song I'm gonna do first, and it's still gonna have a moment in the song where you're gonna go, get the fuck out of here. You know what I'm saying? And I also did that. Cause I wanted people to go, where can he go from here? That was intentional, too. Cause I knew once I put us in a box where whenever me and my team were talking, they're like, all right, this is this how I did. And I was like, this is what I want to do with this. They're like, cool. I was like, that's how I want to start the show. And right then, you can see them go, fuck.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, how are we going to finish all that?

[Jelly Roll]

You know what I'm saying? I was like, that's how we challenge ourselves now. We got to work through it. We know where we're starting. And then I build the whole set, like, an emotional. To me, it's about me music. The best concerts that meant the most to me were the ones I remember leaving. How they made me feel.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Like, I don't even remember the set list. I don't fully remember what songs they sung. I remember some highlights, but I'll remember, like, the overarching theme of, like, how I Left Feeling.

[Andrew Schulz]

Amen.

[Jelly Roll]

And I want people to leave this, like, feeling, like, free. Like, you know that feel. I don't know if you. I'm talking to a bunch of people from up here, but don't take this wrong, but, like, I always bring it up, but, like, an old. Like, that old church feels. Feeling like there's something about leaving church on Sunday. There's this misconception that you leave feeling like you're going to hell. But, like, if done right, yeah, you feel like that at some point in the day, but you leave feeling like, I'm a good guy. I showed up. I'm going to eat lunch with my mom now. Like, I'm on fire. You know what I'm saying? It's like, that's how I want people to leave that show. Feeling and I try to cater the entire set to go into that moment. Cuz if I know that's my end game, then I just got to figure out how to get there. I know how I'm starting. I know how I want people to feel walking out the door. How do I push them out the door?

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, that's awesome. I can attest. Crisis king. Funny camera. It was spectacular. No. All right guys, style benders. Back, back.

[Akash Singh]

Yep, yep, yep, yep.

[Andrew Schulz]

Big fight. Y Y this, you know, this is his first non title fight since a year after he entered the ufc.

[Akash Singh]

Wow, wow, wow.

[Andrew Schulz]

How long is that? I forget I saw the statistics somewhere, but this is the first non title fight because I think he, he won the UFC title I guess within like a year and change.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And then hasn't had a non title fight because it's either been he won or a rematch. Wow, wow, wow. Insanity, right?

[Akash Singh]

2019 and 2018 was the last one. That's crazy.

[Andrew Schulz]

Imagine fighting the second best guy every single fight for years.

[Akash Singh]

That's crazy.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's a long time to be the best. Yeah. People forget, that's the thing. Like we're. And I'm, I'm a prisoner at a moment or whatever. Recency bias or whatever that is. But like you forget what that's like. Imagine every fight you have is the Super Bowl. That's what happens when you're the belt holder. Yeah. It's the best two.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Your name on the arena every time. Exactly. Like everyone tuning in to see you. Not some like, you know, 12th game in a season where you're playing some bum ass squad where you don't have to go every single time the title's. And the guy who you're fighting has been thinking about that moment his entire adult life.

[Akash Singh]

That's crazy.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah. That's insane.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm actually excited to see him fight a non title fight. I'm curious to see like is he loose? Is he fucking around? Gotta be.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, you don't have to carry the weight of the promote. I mean, I'm sure he's still headlining the card, but it's not like you're not carrying this weight like you do. And I just wonder what that's like. Like what he said when he was here. He was like, oh yeah, I'm gonna try some new stuff now.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like I'm looking forward to that. Like, is he gonna try to tap him out? Like what's going. What are we gonna see? That's.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Akash Singh]

What do you know about imov? I Guess is the guy.

[Andrew Schulz]

I saw Emav fight some other dude, and I. I'm forgetting who it was, but, I mean, the guy's nice if he's gonna be fighting Izzy, you know, so. But yeah, I'm just. I'm just excited to see it. Is it gonna be like, when you get back in the clubs after the tour, you're done doing arenas and you're like, you still want to do good? Yeah, like, we could. You know, we can have some fun, enjoy ourselves a little bit.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. So, yeah, that's.

[Jelly Roll]

That'll be.

[Andrew Schulz]

That'll be really cool. And then also, you got the. The.

[Jelly Roll]

The.

[Andrew Schulz]

The Mahasha fight. Maka took his name. You see. You see Islam. So Islam is fighting Tsurukian, and I don't know that much about. About. I think it's Armin Tsurukian, but I know it's their second fight, and apparently everybody's saying how amazing Tsarukian has been, and let's see what happens. But that's going to be January 18th. Rookie have a mustache? No, but he's Christian. He's from Georgia.

[Akash Singh]

He lost.

[Andrew Schulz]

Or he's Armenian, but still Christian.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah, he lost.

[Andrew Schulz]

It was funny. Ariel Hawani was interviewing him, and he kept saying things that were in Arabic. He's like, assalamualaikum and all these other. And he's like, okay. I don't know. I'm just completely lost about why he was saying these things. So. But yeah, let's see what's going on. You know, we're, like, detached, I feel like, from the rivalries in the Middle east, so we don't realize the stakes, you know, when, like, a Georgian fighter fights a Russian fighter.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, or like an Armenian fighter fights a. Like a Turkish fighter. Like, we just. It doesn't mean as much to us because we're not ingrained in. Yeah. You know, but I imagine that's their version of, like, what's a big boxing rivalry? Like, Puerto Rico versus Mexico. Floyd versus a white guy. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm excited for these. Obviously, get it popping over at Stake, you know, leader in global betting and US Social casinos. Bet on top sports, political events. Use the promo code flagrant for your welcome bonus. And let's get back to the show. Jelly, you've been blowing up. I want to hear about all these stories.

[Jelly Roll]

I know some of the experiences you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Must have been having are crazy.

[Jelly Roll]

I will tell you a story about Saturday Night Live that I don't know. I don't know. I'm sure every. Everybody else knew this, but me. But I didn't realize the Dreff Live. It's not like live live. It's live live live. But I didn't realize that the dress rehearsal was for an audience.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Oh, wow.

[Jelly Roll]

I don't know why I would have missed that. I guess just when you watch it, I'm not enough behind the curtains to know that side of the business about how to soften, so they can use.

[Andrew Schulz]

That if they need.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah, I didn't know that was an option either, because they ended up running the skit that we did in rehearsal that didn't make the actual cuts. They still ran it on YouTube. Yeah, they just didn't run it on TV because I was in the skip. They just put YouTube. But I didn't know that, so I was like, oh, this is, like, crazy. And that scared me because I nailed dress rehearsal. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know how, like. And you lock off and you're like. And I'm walking off, and I nailed it so much that, like, they're. They're clapping for me in the hallways, and I'm like, don't jinx me right now.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

I'm, like, almost feeling weird about it. Like, don't praise me, y'all. This is. That didn't count. You know what I'm saying? Because we. I don't get to replace this one with that one. It's not enough time. That's not how Live Lab TV works. I don't get to come off and go, I like the first one better. Yeah. That is a choice on some live TV shows, but. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, this isn't one of those. This is like, all right, well, that was practice. The next one's for real. For 7 million people tuned into the 50th season fucking opener. You're like, I'm gonna go out here and blow it. And then I spent two hours just thinking about how I was gonna fuck it up. There's no way I'm gonna go out here and get this in the green room. Yeah. I'm just in the green, ruminating in it, by the way. Just circling. Just. Just. I had to go out and sit with my wife in the audience.

[Akash Singh]

So what are you thinking when you're on stage? It's dark, and then you hear, ladies and gentlemen, jelly Roll. What's going through your mind in that moment?

[Jelly Roll]

I was like, why wasn't I this nervous the first time? It was the same introduction, same people. Now I know it's live. So I'm sitting there thinking, I should have pissed.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's the first thing you're thinking.

[Jelly Roll]

You're like, I should have peed. And you're like, I can hold this for three or four. You ever. Do y'all have pre show show pisses?

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, yeah.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Is that like one of those where, like, literally the host is going up to introduce you and you're like, oh, now I got a piss.

[Akash Singh]

I already go out, and if I'm nervous, one sip of water, I gotta go to the bathroom.

[Jelly Roll]

It's not even.

[Akash Singh]

It's like, crazy.

[Jelly Roll]

I'm not embarrassed, not ashamed to admit I had to piss on my first bucket on this tour. Oh, really?

[Akash Singh]

That's. What's up, yo.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, on the side of the stage. Yep. What did the rest of the arena do?

[Jelly Roll]

There's. I have moments in the set built where I can kind of get away and figure things out if I have to.

[Andrew Schulz]

Got it.

[Jelly Roll]

I built three moments into the set for, like, just for me to breathe of nothing else but, like, if just something's going wrong with the ear pack, you know, it's a big show I got to figure out sometimes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

So it was just one of them fucking figure it out moments. And I told. Right before I walked out, I looked at my guy, Yanni, who's my. My. My guy in that particular situation. I go, bubba, I didn't pee. He goes, oh, he knew it. He knows I pee before every show. He said, oh, no. I say, I got an iv, Bubba, I'm gonna have to pee. He's like, I have a bucket for you under the thing. So we. I went under the stage and 16,000 people cheering. Some guy's doing an electric guitar solo. And you're like, this feels weird.

[Andrew Schulz]

You don't understand.

[Jelly Roll]

You're like, but you got a pee so bad. You don't have a choice.

[Andrew Schulz]

You did that one time. You did that one. Wait.

[Jelly Roll]

Multiple times.

[Andrew Schulz]

Multiple times. I'll tell you when I did kill Tony at msg, like, I was so my flight got delayed. Coming back from somewhere. Where did.

[Jelly Roll]

Oh, Street.

[Andrew Schulz]

I did this thing.

[Jelly Roll]

You were going to make. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And so I come in from the 50 Cent thing. I'm like texting Tony, like, like, dude, I don't know if I'm gonna make it. I'm trying my best. Whatever. I get in, I get there, I'm like, boom, we're on. And they're like, okay, you're gonna go on next to. Somebody's gonna go up right now. I'M like, okay. I go to the Ron White's dressing room to take a shit. And as I'm, like, wiping, I hear them go, give it up. From New York City. So I'm like, midwife shit caked all over my ass. Oh, gosh. Yeah. Pull up my pants. Go up. Didn't wash my hands at all. Dapped up. Everybody with the duty fingers.

[Jelly Roll]

Went up there with the duty fingers. No, I seen you look frantic when you got up there.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Because it was the last 12 minutes of the shift. We were sitting in front of house smoking a joint. I was like, he made it.

[Andrew Schulz]

What about Amsterdam when they didn't have a bathroom in the whole. Oh, yeah. What was that one? Paper waste bin. Oh, yeah. I peed behind the stage, right. It was like they had the, like, fake green room that they built inside the arena thing. There was no bathroom. Bathroom took a little. So you just had a rib in the. In the trash can. I mean.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And then after the show, you went up to some poor room and you're.

[Akash Singh]

Like, by the way, that that trash.

[Andrew Schulz]

Can'S got to go. I mean, there was one time where, like, I was wearing these pants. Like, you know, usually I have, like, a jean or something like that or like a darker. But there was, like, a pant I was wearing. I don't know why. It was, like, light, and I peed, and I was, like, in a rush, so I didn't let it drastically. You gotta shake. I'm a shake. I have to shake. Like, at my age, I get, I would say between 40% of my pee out when I pee and 60%. Okay.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And I didn't have time to shake. And I remember running to stage and just feeling me, myself, pee on myself. Like a full pee. Full pee. Like, going down the leg as they're playing, like, the intro video for me. And I remember just, like, taking the pants and, like, rubbing it into one another. Try to try it, like, pulling whatever shirt that I had down over it.

[Jelly Roll]

You wearing denim or something? Light, too. It was light.

[Andrew Schulz]

It was light. Oh, yeah. Y.

[Jelly Roll]

You and al y. Y'all brave with them. Light colored. I got too much of a dribble, too, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

I. Oh, I'm straight dribbled.

[Jelly Roll]

It's bad. The difference between me and you is at least you can when you shake. It's just a shake. I. I got to do a little bit of. A little bit of hopscotch. You know what I'm saying? What was the game with Twister? I got to do a little Twister. I got to do a little. I got to put one hand here, one hand here.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I'm saying?

[Jelly Roll]

Give a little hip thrust. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schulz]

What? He's like, I'll be very deliberate about peeing in the toilet when I'm peeing. When I shake, it's a helicopter. Like, it. It's almost as if, like, shake, dribble, wherever that goes, doesn't count. Like, it's on the sink. It's everywhere. It's on the mirror, bathroom. It's everywhere. But I don't feel any need to clean that up for whatever reason. I don't know why it's the same piece. It's like, you know, like when you're in a pool and you see a pulse? I don't know if you can check that out.

[Jelly Roll]

I'm interested you out even more.

[Andrew Schulz]

But, like, when you're in a pool and you pee, that's like, okay. If you're outside of a pool, into a pool, that's not okay. Peeing in the pool versus peeing into the pool.

[Jelly Roll]

What do you mean? Peeing into a pool is a little.

[Andrew Schulz]

You get out of a pool to pee.

[Akash Singh]

I mean, I don't really swim like that, to be honest.

[Andrew Schulz]

But, like, you would leave the pool to pee, you would go do that?

[Akash Singh]

Yeah, depends on what pool.

[Andrew Schulz]

Eli, you're not swim that much to stand on this as often as you pee. You're not. Pull every five seconds.

[Akash Singh]

I don't wait very long, guys.

[Jelly Roll]

No, but now they got the stuff you put in the pool, and it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Changes colors when you start urinating.

[Jelly Roll]

Is that real, or is that just something?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, that's what you tell kids. They don't pee in the pool.

[Jelly Roll]

Well, maybe it's a fake video, but.

[Andrew Schulz]

What'S up with the chlorine, then? Like, what does the chlorine do? I thought that's to clean out the pee. That's why it smells like chlorine. Funny.

[Jelly Roll]

I try not to piss in other people's pools.

[Andrew Schulz]

Say again?

[Jelly Roll]

I try not to piss in other people's pools. That's a policy. I try to hold.

[Andrew Schulz]

I cannot.

[Jelly Roll]

You know what I'm saying? My pool. If I got.

[Akash Singh]

You were in his pool in Miami, I hope he peed in it.

[Jelly Roll]

I don't think I peed in that pool. He peed in that pool. Obviously.

[Andrew Schulz]

I did. Yeah, yeah. 100. I did. I. I didn't even know that. You weren't supposed to. Like you saying, I don't pee in other people's Pools. Like, my brain just exploded. I was like, oh, you're not supposed to do that. Like, do you see it as, like, taking your shoes off before you enter? Like an Asian thing.

[Jelly Roll]

Or your home?

[Andrew Schulz]

I walk around the home.

[Jelly Roll]

I thought chlorine was to keep the water from stale, like pond water. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, I thought it was to clean the pee out of the pool.

[Jelly Roll]

No, I think it's more for, like, you know, if water just sits stale like that and it don't get nothing, no chemical in it, the water will start, you know, watering, you know, start growing. I get it. I was just telling you, man, I've been around a pond or two. The only thing that keeps a pool from being a pond is chlorine.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what the bummer about having a dribble is? Is that, like. Like, I would never pee on my wife. But, like, let's say that we got to a point in our relationship where we were like, let's try to spice it up. We're 60 years old or whatever.

[Jelly Roll]

Will you do it in the shower?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, but, like, if I peed on her, right? And I wouldn't do this, but if I pe. Peed on her, I would finish. And then I have to be like, well, hold on. Most of it's about to come out now. You can't just get up now. Like, you gotta be here for the little dribble. Like, we gotta. I gotta spackle it up, you know.

[Jelly Roll]

Like, here comes the helicopter. Another ounce and a half out. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

So it really just destroy the mood. Like, as hot as it is, just getting drenched in urine, then me being like, well, here comes. The rest of that is.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah, I'm. How old are you, huh? I'm fit to be 40.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm 40. My dick is 90.

[Jelly Roll]

I don't got the dribble. I got the. My problem is my pisses and spurts. I know when I think I'm done, I got another one coming. I just got to be patient.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

You know what I mean? I just got to stand there for another second and be like, there's a whole nother one of these on the way. I just got to sit here and relax.

[Andrew Schulz]

I know that.

[Jelly Roll]

I know.

[Akash Singh]

Well, like, when you hold the hose closed.

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly.

[Jelly Roll]

Like, I know it's on the way.

[Andrew Schulz]

You shit on the bus. You shit on the tour bus.

[Jelly Roll]

No, no, I got to shit in a bag instead.

[Andrew Schulz]

What have you had to.

[Jelly Roll]

Have you ever had to shit during a show?

[Andrew Schulz]

What can I be honest with you.

[Jelly Roll]

There was trying to one each other.

[Andrew Schulz]

Up to get crazy. There was one show where I went on stage knowing full well I had to shit. And I. I remember I got off that stage and I beelined it to the bathroom and I filled that fucking thing up. I created like a volcanic island. Like, dude who filled the hole and then room and then breach the surface of the wall.

[Akash Singh]

Those always feel. Those are great. Those are satisfying, I feel.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, it's one of those where you, like, you look at your. Your stomach in the mirror afterwards, check your abs. Like it was one of those. That was infamous. Why have you on stage?

[Jelly Roll]

No. Well, I have. First of all, my wife's gonna hate this podcast. I have no shame. And she shames me for it all the time. Good. I have zero shame.

[Andrew Schulz]

We need that as men.

[Jelly Roll]

That's important. I don't have it. But I. We were playing Pittsburgh at a bar that was connected to a bowling alley.

[Andrew Schulz]

Nice.

[Jelly Roll]

So there was like this back in the day. Yeah, this is. Yeah, this is eight years ago. Seven years ago maybe. Fuck, six years ago even. And it's like a 500 capper, right? There's no the back. Our green room is through the crowd. It's one of those things. And our green room didn't have a bathroom.

[Akash Singh]

I hate that.

[Jelly Roll]

So you would have to go into the bowling I. But the way the backstage was set up behind the stage was like an outdoor fenced in area that you could sit at a picnic table. You see where this story's going? Yeah, I'm on stage. I like this. Listen, man, I can't believe I've done this on this podcast. And I feel it rumbling. I'm like, it's finna happen. I hit the drummer and I'm like, yo, I just need y'all to vamp. Just like, you know, everybody gets a solo. We don't even get ears. So you don't have a microphone to talk back. Like, now we can go. We have full conversations on that stage. Cause we can hit one microphone that just us can hear.

[Andrew Schulz]

Smart.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah, it's crazy fire. So it's like, that wasn't an option. So I'm having to like go to my guy, like, play. I'm fixing this shit. And I walk straight out the back door to where that little back patio was. Drop my draws. My wife standing right there going, what are you doing? We've been married maybe a year. And I had. This is like prime drunk jelly roll drinking codeine cocaine. Like, my was. It was in just water almost just soft serve.

[Andrew Schulz]

Water.

[Jelly Roll]

And I'm just. I could not stop. They played for me.

[Andrew Schulz]

Was it coming down your thighs when.

[Jelly Roll]

Fat people talk about it?

[Akash Singh]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm sorry.

[Jelly Roll]

Thighs?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Are you squatting during this? Are you your legs like just.

[Jelly Roll]

No, I'm doing like a little hover thing. You know what I'm saying? I'm doing like the best. The best squat I could do for the size I want. I'm pressed up against the fence probably. I've had this. I'm from the country. I've had this bear. You know what I'm saying? I've never. The sitting on the side of the road's not a new concept to me, sadly.

[Andrew Schulz]

What do you say?

[Jelly Roll]

I'm experienced in. In that moment.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Nothing.

[Andrew Schulz]

You just got damn job.

[Jelly Roll]

You gotta get up. Lot of liquid. No, listen.

[Andrew Schulz]

You sass.

[Jelly Roll]

Listen. The worst part of this podcast with.

[Andrew Schulz]

All over your ass.

[Jelly Roll]

What are you talking about?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I did. I'm out of it. But he was in his grave. I tried to. You want to do something crazy? I wiped and I broke. I broke.

[Jelly Roll]

Oh, that's petty. No, you can't.

[Akash Singh]

He's lying.

[Andrew Schulz]

But it's disgusting.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah, it still feels real.

[Andrew Schulz]

I did do. Why don't I lie about that so I look cool. It makes me look cool. It's working my own ass.

[Jelly Roll]

This is a true story. I might. I know one time. I'm not going to keep telling one.

[Andrew Schulz]

Liquid. You went liquid air dry.

[Jelly Roll]

The wildest.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's where you got to shake. That's where you got to shake.

[Jelly Roll]

For sure. Hey, no, no. You know what else you got to do? You got to squeeze the butt cheeks together and then squat and then squeeze. You know what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schulz]

Try to get it all out. Get it all out. Two faced.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah, I've had to do. I've been in the country. I've had a white with leaves before.

[Andrew Schulz]

You had to white with leaves. That's kind of nice actually. I've done that.

[Jelly Roll]

No, that's not that stuff, man. The smooth. The smoothest sleeve out there is going to butcher that butthole.

[Andrew Schulz]

I like that. You guys are country wiping with a smooth leaf because it can't be too smooth or it's not going to grab. I need some grip. You need friction. I need grip.

[Jelly Roll]

Listen, I need grip.

[Andrew Schulz]

I need it to be like a skateboard.

[Jelly Roll]

The first time I went to my uncle's farm, my cousin wiped with poison. Poison ivy. Oh no, no. Poison oak. It was poison oak. It just looks like a. It looks like a regular oak leaf. Oh, wow. What was Poison oak.

[Andrew Schulz]

And then what happened?

[Jelly Roll]

Oh, he flamed his ass up. What are you talking about? It was all bad.

[Andrew Schulz]

We had a neighbor that did that.

[Jelly Roll]

So bad. Have you ever had poison ivy?

[Andrew Schulz]

Poison ivy?

[Jelly Roll]

I've had poison ivy all the way from bottom of nut sack to tip of tailbone.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, no.

[Jelly Roll]

Horrible experience.

[Andrew Schulz]

We had a neighbor that did that. He's actually from Tennessee. He's from Knoxville. And poison ivy on his hands. I swear. I swear to God. His wife came out of the room like, two hours later. She was like, my breasts are so. Are burning. I swear to God, I'm not lying.

[Jelly Roll]

She's like, my breast.

[Andrew Schulz]

I just don't know what it is.

[Jelly Roll]

If you touch. You got. You can't piss.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, you can't.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah. Touch your dick after that. Watch, bub. That stuff is. It's like chicken pox. It goes with everything it touches.

[Andrew Schulz]

We got to do episode of Hot Ones, bro. We need hot ones with that. Touch your dick after poison. I.

[Jelly Roll]

It is. Can you transfer to other people immediately?

[Akash Singh]

Yeah, there's.

[Jelly Roll]

Literally. If I touch a poison ivy right now and I grab my. Touch my dick. I'm not touching your pecker.

[Andrew Schulz]

If you touch my dick, that will get swollen. Maybe that's. Yeah. I don't know. But maybe that's. Maybe that's what the foreskin or whatever was designed to do initially. It's a sheath. It is like a protective. Yeah. Layer.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah. Damn.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, you need that. You need that. Do you think the foreskin is immune to types of ivy or poison? Poison. I think it is immune to a lot of poison. I think you could drag that hangy dick on a bush of poison oak. It does collect little things, though. Like. Like, you know, like little. Like, stickers and stuff. It collects little stickers. If you're out. Are you a clam? Like, if we open you up, is there going to be, like, a little marble in there? Yeah, there's Jules. Oh, my God. If you let it go too long. Can we do that on a Patreon? Yeah, we might need to. That'd be kind of sick. That's why you just gotta go commando, bro. You have a bidet?

[Jelly Roll]

I live by bidet, Ernest. And don't turn it. Ernest and them sent me a bunch of bidets during COVID We don't need one. Somebody found. No, we got. Listen.

[Andrew Schulz]

Multiple bathrooms.

[Jelly Roll]

Because I like the attachment so much. Much.

[Andrew Schulz]

Wait, what?

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, with the wireless situation.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah. No, no, no, no.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Jelly Roll]

This is like, she bought the one from wherever they make Them at.

[Andrew Schulz]

Least.

[Jelly Roll]

It's crazy, dude.

[Andrew Schulz]

The whole toilet is one.

[Jelly Roll]

Yes, the whole toilet. When I can control the temperature.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's the underrated water heated toilet seat. Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Akash Singh]

That's sick.

[Jelly Roll]

Instant relax that we've been talking about.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why. Why are they so good at the toilet thing? Why did the Japanese.

[Akash Singh]

Why are we not. We almost gotta be.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Akash Singh]

Why are we not more focused on ass hygiene?

[Jelly Roll]

But they, for years now, reinvent the porta Potty. I feel like that's something we would have.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, must have.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

George Harding made the first porta potty in 1960.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's a great idea.

[Jelly Roll]

That's. Damn. It makes me wonder how they were in festivals before that.

[Andrew Schulz]

Or like Woodstock.

[Jelly Roll]

Woodstock was in the 60s, though.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, but they just. Oh, that's a good point.

[Jelly Roll]

But, yeah, they had. That was. Man, you didn't have enough.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, I don't know if they had Porta Potties.

[Jelly Roll]

No. Well, they didn't have enough. The problem was, you know the story about Woodstock, right? Y'all know this. No, I'm gonna butcher it. And y'all correct me. But at least in the spirit of me trying to get it right.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Is they anticipated, based on, like, ticket sales, this to be a flop. They. They staffed it for like 4,000 people. Wow. So what happened was because it was so loose, they didn't even put fences up or try to gate it or nothing. They were just like, look, it's just kind of at this point, it's integrity. We sold 4,000 tickets. Anybody who wants to show up can come. But back then, it wasn't like you could post that on fucking TikTok, you know what I mean? So they thought, you know, maybe our neighbors will come. Maybe, you know, the community will come together. They were expecting like 5,7000 people at most when a half a million motherfuckers. And the word started getting out. Fucking Jimi Hendrix. All this crazy shit's happening and it's free. They don't have a third, you know. Right. So it immediately. Just like the whole. This part of America.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Right into it is what. So. Yeah. No, there was shit everywhere. It was a big part of it. When you watch the documentary, it's super bad. The other problem was they didn't know how to feed people. And there were so many people backed up on the interstate highways. That's why there was only one Woodstock. It was a logistical nightmare. The other side of the beauty of what we see is they could not. They thought people were going to die. It was really bad. The Locals came in and started cooking, like, big bowls of chicken and rice just to mass feed people. Wow. They wasn't ready to feed that many. They wasn't ready for. That area of New York wasn't ready for a half a million motherfucker people. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Still possibly you feel bad for the Fyre Fest guy. He's like, I went to prison for this. And the Woodstock guys got, like, the greatest documentary ever. Like, what the.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah, it was great.

[Andrew Schulz]

He's running it back, though. Fire Fest is running it back.

[Jelly Roll]

Is he going to do it again?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Would you perform at Fire Fest, too?

[Jelly Roll]

I think I probably pass. Yeah, I think I probably. I don't know, man. I'm all about second chances and redemption too, though. I would hear him out. I would give him. I would give him an audience, you know what I mean? Like, yo, what did you really learn?

[Akash Singh]

Did you make sure he comes thirsty?

[Jelly Roll]

Did you not come out? Like, the. The problem is with. With pretty is people either come out and really want to change their life, or they come out smarter criminals. And that's the truth. And I'm all about second chances. So, yeah, I hear them out, but my gut reaction is fucking no, not into that long. You know what I mean? But I'm also just not into being on a plane that long. Just doesn't sound like my crowd. I don't look like what. Based on what he tried to book.

[Andrew Schulz]

Guys, let's take a break for a second, okay? When I wake up in the morning, I make sure to exercise the most important muscle of my body, my freedom of speech. Let's go. Let's go, dude. Because I'm an American, and as an American, the most important thing that I do in my life, outside of exercising my freedom of speech, is to put caffeine in my system. Coffee specifically.

[Akash Singh]

Not tea.

[Andrew Schulz]

Not tea. We throw that in the river. Yeah, we do. We boycott that. And we use the most badass coffee on the planet. Black rifle coffee.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Not another color rifle.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Black rifle.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

In the night, pulling up, shooting drones out of the sky. You're lucky there's not a bald eagle on my shoulder. Someone put one in and post.

[Jelly Roll]

Will do.

[Andrew Schulz]

Thank you. When you need to get your day started in the most American patriotic way possible, what do you do? Do you kick a migrant over the wall? Yeah, maybe. Do you call an Uber and check to make sure that they have papers and legal status in the United States of America? Yeah, maybe. Do you go to Home Depot? Right. Round them all up, take them to a deportation center? Maybe but how are you gonna do that if you don't have the energy that you need? And what's gonna give you that energy? What's gonna give you that focus? What's gonna give you that super ability to look at someone and make sure that they're from the greatest country in the world?

[Akash Singh]

Not starcucks.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, not starcucks. It's black rifle coffee.

[Jelly Roll]

Ta da.

[Andrew Schulz]

Thank you. Okay. The greatest coffee coffee on the planet. So right now you go to black riflecoffee.com and I'm gonna send you a gun. Wait, that's not. That's actually not. If you go to blackrifflecoffee.com flagrant and use the code flagrant, we are going.

[Akash Singh]

To send a gift basket of guns.

[Andrew Schulz]

Gift basket. That's not. It's not. We have to edit that out. There might be some hand grenades. That's also what has often happened is a hand grenade or two has slipped in into the gift basket of the coffee.

[Jelly Roll]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

Because you can find black rifle coffee, obviously, and energy drinks and the grocery store, the convenience stores near it. Yes, you can. But you can also go online and get it and maybe a grenade ends up in your basket.

[Jelly Roll]

That's not.

[Andrew Schulz]

I would do it if I'm you. It's hard to get a grenade.

[Akash Singh]

Take your chances.

[Andrew Schulz]

You got to take your chance and.

[Akash Singh]

You'Ll get 30% off.

[Andrew Schulz]

You get 30% off, you might get a bald eagle chicken wing in there. The point is the greatest coffee on the planet, the coffee that's gonna make sure you exercise your freedom of speech. All these things are possible as long as you are caffeinated with black rifle coffee.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

All right. You order black rifle coffee right now, you get to pick which country we invade. A lot of people don't realize that that is part of the gift basket. You get a map, you point at it. That's it. Greenland. You want Greenland, you want Syria. It's all up for grabs.

[Akash Singh]

We already working on Canada.

[Andrew Schulz]

You better watch out. Canada. Do we even ship this to Canada? They don't deserve it. If we ship this to Canada, they might have the chutzpah to try to invade us again. Oh, shit. But you know what's going to happen if you run it back? Black rifle coffee dot com. Use the code flagrant 30% off today and see what all the hype is about. All right, guys, let's take a break for a second, okay? Let's just be honest. A lot of people out there, especially homeowners, are struggling with debt. Maybe you're upside down in your mortgage. Maybe you got credit card debt that's piling up and only getting hired because of inflation. Well, American Financing can help. Okay. They give you loans using your home's equity. It's a family owned company that's been around for a quarter century. That's 250 years. Their mortgage, it's actually 25 years is probably got to be accurate on this read, but it could be 250. Anyway, their mortgage consultants are also salary based so there is no financial incentive to put you into a shitty loan just so they can make some Commission. Customers save $800 a month on average and you won't be charged any upfront or hidden fees. Now don't just trust us, do your own research.

[Jelly Roll]

How are you going to do that?

[Andrew Schulz]

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[Jelly Roll]

This is Stagecoach.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. This is the big one.

[Jelly Roll]

Huge. Huge. Yeah. It's our Coachella. I know y'all work ridiculous and asking y' something other than I want to go to Saturday stage coaching. Awesome.

[Andrew Schulz]

So it's you.

[Jelly Roll]

Who else it's going to be? So Luke Combs or Zach Brian's. But Luke Combs is Friday night. Yeah, I headlined Saturday night and Zach Brian headlines Sunday night.

[Akash Singh]

Wow.

[Jelly Roll]

It's going to be 75, 000. It's going to be. I mean, it's going to be insane.

[Andrew Schulz]

Where is it? It's April. It's. It's the Coachella is the first week. First two weeks and then the week after it is. Yeah. And then.

[Jelly Roll]

Hold on.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's a fun little thing. T Pain, Creed and Backstreet Boys.

[Jelly Roll]

Look over Nelly doing 25 years. Lana Del Rey, Sammy Hagar.

[Andrew Schulz]

Sturgill.

[Jelly Roll]

Sammy Hagar's the man.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, Sturgil's gonna be awesome.

[Jelly Roll]

Sturgill. Sturgill's my night son.

[Akash Singh]

I was. We were just talking about Nelly last weekend and how like man, that first.

[Jelly Roll]

Album unfucking this is down me celebrating country gram doing all country Gram riding with me.

[Akash Singh]

Those are just like those took over.

[Jelly Roll]

The Shaboozi's my Niko Wetzel. This night is special, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

We're pulling up. Yeah. Dead ass in Calvary. What is this? What? What?

[Akash Singh]

25Th, 26th. 27th of what?

[Jelly Roll]

April.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm in there. I'm coming. Bring the wife. How crazy is it to have the baby out there.

[Jelly Roll]

It's great. Come on. Put, put, put. We'll put the headphones on them. People bring babies all the time. It's great. The weather was great when we were out there.

[Andrew Schulz]

Also, the baby can stay. You're not, like. It's not like a Woodstock type thing where you, like, there the whole day. You can go back to the house and then come back for different reasons.

[Jelly Roll]

Come back. And also, especially on my night, I have the whole compound, so it's whatever. I'll give you your own. You'll have your own room. Don't worry about that. We'll take care of y'all.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, okay. That'll be fine.

[Jelly Roll]

We'll roll out the red carpet. It'll be fun.

[Andrew Schulz]

I mean, trust me, we're cool.

[Jelly Roll]

This is a big deal for us. If you know one thing y'all know about me is I'm like, y'all. This is how we became friends, is that we treat every moment that is a moment like it's a moment. Yeah. So y'all know what the. I'm fixing to. Oh, it should say jelly roll and friends, because I am. I got trips up my stuff.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh.

[Jelly Roll]

I got big tricks up my sleeve. I'll talk about. Oh, wow. I've already got one comm. This one commitment's the only one that comes through. It's going to be the most legendary thing that ever happened to Stagecoach. Really? And I got two more calls out for even crazier looks.

[Andrew Schulz]

Wow. And, like, seeing that, like, Saturday of Stagecoach, that's when everyone is there. It's like, that's a Jay Z, Beyonce main stage equivalent with what they're just gonna say you should bring up.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah, that's. That's the weekend at Coachella. Yeah. It's that same audience. Not the week of weekends, obviously.

[Andrew Schulz]

The biggest artist ever, Andrew, just thinking, what drugs. He's going to be doing that. No, no. I haven't been into the drugs, though. I'm the fatherhood.

[Akash Singh]

That's the.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Fatherhood. I haven't. I haven't smoked a cigarette or anything since the baby, and I haven't touched drugs since the baby.

[Jelly Roll]

Wow.

[Andrew Schulz]

And not really even had any interest in doing it. It's kind of weird. But I will say this Burning man is calling me a little bit. I was talking to my. My, my. The guy who does, like, PT and training stuff. Shout out. He's unbelievable. You guys should definitely get in touch with him if you can. He's incredible. Truly incredible. Like, save my shoulder. My shoulder. I was getting cortisol. What are they called? Cortisol. Cortisone or Cor. Cortisone.

[Akash Singh]

Cortisone.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Cortisone shots. A doctor was literally like, yeah, this is just what your shoulder's gonna be like. A doctor and then him and another one. They basically just, like, saved my shoulder. Like, truly remarkable. Makes me truly believe in pt. Anyway. Ah, fuck. I can't now. We gotta believe his name because I want to tell you the other thing. But he's like a chemist with everything in his life in terms of what he puts in his body outside. Like with food. Food. Etc. And then just today, he was breaking down his. Like, how he does the night, how he ramps up the night. And. Yeah, he's like. He tests his own drugs.

[Jelly Roll]

Wow.

[Andrew Schulz]

He. He creates his own pills out of it.

[Jelly Roll]

Wow. Like, he's dosing himself. He's down to the Microsoft.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, he's got it down to a science. What he needs to have his perfect cortisone. Right. So the second he told me that shit, I was like, I think I need to get high again. I didn't know you could do it like a science, you know? That seems safe.

[Akash Singh]

Listen, man, it's learning, really, when you get down to it.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah. I've been a parent a little bit for a little while now, and I can tell you one of the most pieces of parent advice I can give my two young fathers here, especially for you and your wife, which I've met both of your wives, and I think they're both sweet people. It's important for y'all to find time to not be parents. And I know you're early in the process, so that sounds unrealistic moment, but it is important that y'all go to Burning man and completely lose your mind and predict that is the only thing that will make that balancing act work. Because a little night out with some wine, or a weekend. A weekend away at a hotel, a staycation or this, that's not enough. You need every now and then to go out. Like, we're fucking college kids again. We're fucking gonna get naked and swing from chandeliers. We're gonna get kicked out of a fucking hotel. Like, it's important every now and then. All parents out there listening. Trust the fat man with this one, y'all. I swear, it is a backbone of something. Me and Bunny have stood by. It's like, it is important to every now and then because even you'll go out and do stuff. And we're parents 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year, every now and then. I just don't need to be one.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, it's funny. It's like, you spend so much time, More time with your wife or your partner or whatever once you have a kid. But it is fundamentally nothing like the time that you have spent in the past. So before any time you get together, right? As a dude, you're obviously calculating. You're like, okay, we got tons of time this week. This is awesome. We didn't get time next week. But when you're with the baby, you think you're getting that same experience, but you're not filling each other up in the same way. You're getting filled up by that baby. That baby is euphoria. Right? But there is another component which is filling each other up and whether. I don't know if it's. You got to go crazy every single time, but literally just making sure you go out to dinner, like, that's something that my wife and I get a half hour going to get coffee. Like, having 30 minutes where we can talk to one another. Maybe there's some we got to work out. Maybe there's a disagreement we got, and there's just, well, we don't want our baby. Exactly.

[Jelly Roll]

Like, that's real.

[Andrew Schulz]

Creating those times. And at first, you almost feel selfish. You're like, why am I trying to create time with me and my wife when we have a baby? Like, we should be spending every single second with the baby. But you realize that maybe that's the most important thing for that baby. Like, if things are great between us, everything's good. And if they're not good between us, they are in a really difficult situation. It's something nobody will prepare you for. Nobody talks about it. Like, nobody tells you right before you have a kid, by the way, your relationship is going to completely change the dynamic, the how you guys spend time. And you need to be ready for that change and do everything that you need to make sure that you're both getting what you need from each other within that change.

[Jelly Roll]

It's a whole extra prioritization, too, because you're like, initially, it's like, I'm just, you know, I'm already juggling work and these other ideas I have and ambitions and dreams and hobbies with my wife. Now I'm juggling, and then it's easy to lump them together. Oh, it's my wife and kid, and I had to learn fast. Like, it's not. It ain't that. That is one thing, but Me and my wife are a separate thing. And this is where it gets deeper when they get older. And me and my kid are a separate thing too. Cause then you'll fall guilty sometimes. Be like, oh, I've got it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Great.

[Jelly Roll]

I got the wife and kid. And then I got the wife. It's like, well, no, you still got to go sit down and be just a dad. She needs just you. Yeah. Like, you still gotta go put in.

[Andrew Schulz]

That just her time.

[Jelly Roll]

You need that just her time. It's important for growth. And me sneaking away, getting them dinners going on those things. They're important. Equally important. Once a year. Go blow it out. Yep. Be irresponsible for it. I stand by it, dude. It's been. It's been such an important thing for me.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's that thing on Instagram that, like, everybody's been. Every male friend group has been forwarding to one another, and none of us have been forwarding to our wives. But it was like, study says that men need two nights out a week with the boys. Have you guys seen that pop up on your Instagram? No.

[Akash Singh]

Is my algorithm doing Girl's in control of it.

[Andrew Schulz]

But, like, it is. I don't know what the exact number is. Like, obviously, we're very lucky. We get to come here and, like, shoot the. And just have a lot of fun. But that is an important thing to communicate as well. Like, that's a really hard thing to say. The person you love more than anything in the world is, hey, I need to not be with you tonight.

[Jelly Roll]

For sure. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I mean? Like, I think my wife was like, I just love spending time with you. And I was like, I also love spending time with me, so I need.

[Jelly Roll]

To do that right now.

[Andrew Schulz]

I need about an hour with me. What you're feeling is what I'm feeling. I need that right now.

[Jelly Roll]

Bunny quit drinking many years ago. And everything I gave up, I'll still go out and tie one on every now and then, and I've cut it back immensely. But that's what Bunny does understand is that when I do have that feature in me, Bunny is. I love her for this. Because my wife stands, she'll call it early. She'll be like, you might just need to find a night to go out. Like, she'll start kind of pushing me. Like, when have you done something? Go do something. Go. So even like the other night when we're sitting around, it's my first night off in probably 17, 18 days. And she was like, you should go rest. I was like, Scholz is at a comedy club. I get to catch him at the Cellar. And while we're here, I don't want to bookmark it. I want you to let me get through this. When I seen you at the Life tour, I can tell you beyond the shadow of a doubt, it's gonna be one of the greatest hours of standup we're ever gonna witness.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, God bless.

[Akash Singh]

It is his best hour. I stand up.

[Jelly Roll]

Thank you, bro. No, no, no. About being your best.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Jelly Roll]

It is going to be one of the best hours ever. And I had a moment when you were at the Cellar, because this is why I want to come see you too. I had a moment at the Cellar where I was like, I seen it at Nashville Comedy Fest in April.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

The way Yalls business work is different than mine. It's only gotten better than. It couldn't have gotten worse. The way Yalls business is. You've only found. I seen you working out little. I'm like, oh, he's still picking this thing apart. And I've seen it. You know what I mean? You can use this part or not if you don't want to. Even down to the name. Caught me off guard. Like, I had flash shots of when you announce the Life tour, and it's this silhouette of you. I have these flash shots of you in this 1964 Impala doing, you know, at your first big LA theater show, right? I'm looking at, like, these Schultz moments, and I'm like, oh, I bet this is gonna. You know, I remember the plane Schultz, and, like, I just remember these eras of, like, I wonder what this is gonna be. So I went and expected. Expecting more of that and was like, get the out of here. I was like, this dude's a. This is brilliant. So many people so much more than know you're. That they know you're him, but they still underestimate you. That's.

[Akash Singh]

That's why I say it's his best hour. Given everything he's done, for this to still be his first hour, I don't say that lightly.

[Jelly Roll]

They're gonna put. They're gonna goat head you on this one, dog.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, thank you, man.

[Jelly Roll]

Thank you. Special. So anyways, I tell my wife, I'm like, yo, also said to sell her.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

And she's like, oh, go. She immediately was like, because she knows I need that.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

She's like, she knows how much I need to. Like, she knows how much y'all fill me up and how much I love comedy. And she's like, just go be somewhere where you aren't you.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's a lot of confidence for her to say that, too. Like, for her not to see that as a sense of rejection. Like, you don't want to be with her.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

And that takes time also. Like, that's maturity. You know, it's very easy, I think, to get caught up. Men and women, we can get caught up in this feeling of, like, oh, if my partner or doesn't want to be with me, do they. Does that mean they don't like me? Am I not as fun as that other thing?

[Jelly Roll]

Do they want to be with someone else?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jelly Roll]

Or something else cooking. You're right.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. And we both do it. And then instead of saying, hey, I'm hurt, we get upset at them or try to catch them and things. Because it's way easier to be like, you're wrong than say, I feel insecure. So it's.

[Jelly Roll]

That's.

[Andrew Schulz]

I, like, commend her for that. That's a very mature position, I'm telling you.

[Jelly Roll]

And I was going to go hang out with her, and she was like. She was like, no go, man. Bunny's just. That's just where she's at. She's always encouraged, but she knows my heart, too. She knows, like, this dude's been fucking, you know, like. Cause when I get to get in them situations, I don't ha. I don't have to be the dude. I just get to be with the dudes.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I'm saying?

[Jelly Roll]

So she knows how much I need that. You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schulz]

You get to relax a little bit. That's interesting. I didn't think about it like that. Like, everybody, when you're on tour and you're doing foul, you're doing all these different things. Everything is around your orbit. And then when you go hang out with some other guys, that it's not related to your show or anything. You're doing your life.

[Jelly Roll]

And we're genuinely just friends. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Everybody's just hanging. There's no longer this pressure, this expectation. Everybody waiting to see if it's time for you to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

And then my connection, always with y'all, too, is that watching that we were all in clubs together and have built this thing in, like, a parallel path. So it's like, now we're. Now we're just sitting being homies. We're dudes. And now we're giving inside Trader secrets. Right now it's like, yo, what's this? What's that? What's the deal on this, what's the deal on that? You know what I mean? And you getting with Kels that night was special for me because I, I wanted. I had a lot, multiple conversations with him where I was like, I have so many people that if they knew you were this charming, would feel so differently about you. I was like, could you just humor me and just go show people this? And he was like, and I love him so much because he was so open to it and it was so innocent because he was like, how. And I was like, bubba, man. Because, you know, he had come up such a rock star way. It had been semi traditional media. Yeah. So he had never, like.

[Andrew Schulz]

There wasn't a lot of opportunity to show personal. Only seeing art and you're only seeing pictures for sure. And then you spoke about that, about even like through podcasting, like, podcasting, you really get a sense of like, who somebody is.

[Jelly Roll]

You can't come in here and fake it for two and a half hours.

[Andrew Schulz]

Two hours is a long time, boys.

[Jelly Roll]

On flagrant. I tell, I tell my people in Nashville that all the time.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

You can't go sit on Joe Rogan for two and a half hours and Joe not get you to tell people who the you are.

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly.

[Jelly Roll]

You know what I'm saying? It's just inevitable. You can't shoot wherever I go. Do 12. A 12 minute clip for this particular show.

[Akash Singh]

America, whatever.

[Jelly Roll]

It's pretty easy to kind of, you know. Okay. We don't really got to really dig up into the.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Into the weeds here. And a lot of artists avoid this because they know that it can only do us wrong. We can only. This is only risky for.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's going to be stories that come up.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's going to be stories.

[Jelly Roll]

You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schulz]

But if you are a magnetic personality, then it's a great platform.

[Jelly Roll]

It's a great play. That's what I tell them. Like, yo, pub. Just like. I was like. And go somewhere. You like, go somewhere you're interested in because you dig what they do or somewhere you feel safe.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

And then immediately he's like, your friends with flagrant. I was like, those are my boys.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

And he was like, I gotta get with him. I was like, I'm gonna tell you how that works.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

You're gonna have to meet them because they're dudes.

[Andrew Schulz]

I need him to tell. I need him to tell that. That Leo story. I'm not gonna say anything else, but he told the story that, man.

[Jelly Roll]

Listen, man, that dude's got the Best stories. We got to get him on his couch, man. He's so.

[Andrew Schulz]

So he had an interest in him. Like he's this young kid in Hollywood at the time where it's like him, Bieber and like a few other people going and like are you going to piss?

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah. Okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

Can't let him drink water. We can't let him drink water. There's a bucket in the corner.

[Jelly Roll]

Get pissed. I got to put that.

[Andrew Schulz]

He was. And it was just like going like that time where they were these young people in Hollywood just going crazy. The stories that came out of that were quite, quite entertaining. All right, guys, today's the final day. Okay? We find out who won. We know Mark won. Stop clapping. Okay? Obviously Mark cheated. Is it annoying that I'm clapping on all your dead bodies? Idiots. Yo, yo, Coffee. Look into Mark. Joking. I was joking. I was just being silly.

[Akash Singh]

I lost everything.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Trust Akash's picks. Destroy your marriage. If you trying to piss off your.

[Akash Singh]

Family, I'm your guy.

[Andrew Schulz]

If you're trying to lose your life savings, you trust Akash Singh with your picks. Now Mark has some insider trading. It's not insider information. Coffee. You need to look them up immediately.

[Jelly Roll]

No.

[Andrew Schulz]

Obviously he's been up to some shenanigans and we don't like everything's above board. Everything's above board. I don't believe it. I don't believe it. The guy blasted out 25% almost immediately. Nancy Pelosi right here. What would I do? How would I. What does this even mean? That's a great point.

[Jelly Roll]

That's a good point.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't even sound.

[Jelly Roll]

Put it that way.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't even sound like that. You're a criminal. That's not what I sound like.

[Akash Singh]

You can't argue with that logic.

[Andrew Schulz]

Nothing like me kill the rich. No, no. If he didn't have a child, if he didn't just have a child, I would say walk up to him on the street and shoot him in back of the head. But he has a child. What the hell? Different. Should not do that, guys. You should not do that. I'm just giving 200 bucks. I didn't see him eating at a restaurant, masturbating his food. What the hell? Okay, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do any of these things like that. Can I have some more of that? Yeah, I'll tell you. Okay, listen. You know, the reality is. This is the reality. What is the reality, dude? Despite you cheating and somehow being ahead, all of our money is still Intact. And why is it still intact?

[Akash Singh]

Because he was cracking.

[Andrew Schulz]

Because we was cracking. We have an exchange we can trust. An exchange that's gonna be there for the good times and the bad. And that is what is important. Kraken has our back. What I would do is, if I were you, is I would stay as far from this SEC violator as you possibly could. Because they're coming for him. Me. They are. Fleece Johnson is coming for those cheeks.

[Jelly Roll]

Is he?

[Andrew Schulz]

Sec Fleece Johnson is coming for those cheeks. Is that a Trump appointment? No. You're gonna meet him in Rike. What? Why would I go.

[Jelly Roll]

Here's your move.

[Andrew Schulz]

Get cracking. Now go to kraken.com flagrant or just scan the QR code on the screen. Start your crypto journey today. Don't follow Mark. I'm going to get my cheeks cracked up. That's what's going to happen, bro. Damn. Let's get back to the show. All right, guys, let's take a break for a second. Listen up. Okay. New year, new dick. How do you make it new? How do you make it good? Is new? Same active greedinesses inside. Cialis or Viagra. But this is the chew. Okay. This is the one that 2025, you are going to do your best work on. This is the one right here where the flag is going to be full mass. Is there a T at the end of mass?

[Akash Singh]

Mast mask, I think.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, definitely.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Point is this. You guys are going to go out there and. And ladies listening. You deserve to get the hardest dick possible. No noodles inside you. No udon. You want some udon? You want some pad? See you feels. Rachel, I'm running out of noodles. No pad Thai. Okay. You want spaghetti before it's in the boiling water? Yeah. You want the hard stick? That's what you want? Yeah. You want the thing you light up to make your house smell better. And you.

[Akash Singh]

Incense.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's like a branch. Yeah. Like sage. Sage. Is that it?

[Akash Singh]

I feel like.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, no, it's all right. Let me. Let me think different. You think that's thin? Okay. You want that. You want the trunk of a tree? Okay.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah, yeah, that's.

[Andrew Schulz]

You want. You want something girthy, like an avocado? Well, it's. I feel like tree was better.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah. Tre.

[Andrew Schulz]

Go back more into tree. Go like a redwood. Yeah. Okay. You want something in a forest, Something they could make cookies inside. Don't you want to pull your dick out and some girl's like, oh, were you making cookies earlier? Is that where those elves were? Yeah. And you go, no. Matter of fact, this is just going to bludgeon you consensually. What the hell? So violent. Bludgeon seems like the worst. It seems like you're breaking into a castle when this is an invitation. It's like a Trojan horse. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?

[Akash Singh]

I'm a Trojan horse. If you're lucky, my boy.

[Andrew Schulz]

You see what we're doing over here? The point is this. Bluechew.com. you're going to get your first month free. All you got to use is the promo code. Flagrant. First month free. Why don't you just go do that? I mean, $5 shipping. That's it. I don't have anything else to say. Do you want one more metaphor? I. Yeah. Just to deserve it. Do you want that?

[Akash Singh]

They deserve it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay. What do you. What do you want. What do you want your meat to look like? H. What do you want it to look like when you look down? What do you want. Want to see?

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

What do you want to see when you look down? Black.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

What?

[Jelly Roll]

A black dick. Yeah. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's for you.

[Jelly Roll]

No, you too.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, I think it'd be more concerning.

[Jelly Roll]

I.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, maybe like, necrosis or something. Exactly.

[Jelly Roll]

Like.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, it's possible there's a circulation, but.

[Akash Singh]

If you had the size, you wouldn't call a doctor.

[Andrew Schulz]

There you go.

[Jelly Roll]

No. Yeah. Probably not. No, no, no.

[Akash Singh]

If your dick got black and then grew, you'd be like, that's probably good.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, that's fair. If you just look down one day and you had a black dick.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

All going to feel great. No, I think it's.

[Jelly Roll]

I think.

[Akash Singh]

How do you be a little concerned? What if it's bigger?

[Jelly Roll]

It's. It's. It's.

[Akash Singh]

It's more girthy, to use the word.

[Andrew Schulz]

From our. Yeah. Yeah. No, in that case, I would be fine with it. Yeah. Yeah. I would do black.

[Akash Singh]

It's like the good Hodgkins.

[Andrew Schulz]

Let's get back to the show immediately.

[Jelly Roll]

That's something else that we. We're judging GK Because I think about this all the time for him. I thank God I didn't burst on the scene at 25.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Because, like, the way I thought at 25 and would have projected myself into critical mass. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? I. It would have not favored me, for sure.

[Andrew Schulz]

What I thought was cool, though, is, like. Because if you ask me a question, I'm going to give you a real answer. And he was straight up. He was just like.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

So what do you think this Is. And I was like, all right, well, these are my. My thoughts on it, and that's heavy. If you're asking me to describe your perception where your career is at, all these different things, like I. And I tell you honestly. And he was like. He thought it was. He reflected on. He's like, oh, wow. I can see that a lot of people would fight for their perceived identity in that moment and be like, no, I disagree with you about these types of things. But, like, analyzing. It's like, oh, okay. I could see why that might be that. And I was like, oh, that was kind of cool.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah, he's so. Man, every conversation I've ever had with him, he's so Even down to like this. I joked with you that night and I met. I'm like, I'm his publicist right now. That's how I feel. You know what I'm saying? I'm out here showing the world, like, this dude is so much. Even when we got back, to circle back to the him and M thing is like, that's why I see so much of them in each other. I just think that he was so young during all of that too. You know what I mean? Like, even what he did to initially make M mad into the battle era of like, you know, man, that dude's got a. You know, like, we're watching this new video with him and I'm getting choked up watching his daughter get married and announce a child. Yeah. But equally, I'm just with MGK at MGK Day in Cleveland and he's got a 16 year old that's like already taking college classes like genius kids. He's like, this dude flies every weekend from LA to go be a volleyball dad. You know what I mean? Like every week. And I'm like, if people knew that about you besides this picture of you wearing this wild outfit, you know what I'm saying? Like, it would be such a. I know how fast it made my shift of you. You know what I mean? Whenever I'm talking to you and I'm seeing the consistency, I'm like, where you at? He's like, on my way to Cleveland. I'm like, damn, volleyball again this weekend. He was like, every weekend, dog, for 28. He quit tour. He took a year off of touring.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Tens of millions of dollars. Like, nah, man, it's gonna be like one of the last years I can watch her play. Yeah. Like, that's the kind of duty. Is it, like, where his spirit's at? Right?

[Andrew Schulz]

That's the type of thing that comes out when you, you know, share your personal life. But it's scary to share your personal life, too.

[Jelly Roll]

Super.

[Andrew Schulz]

Especially when, you know, I imagine, like, there's certain people in the industry that have their idea of, like, crafting a rock star is a very specific, certain thing.

[Jelly Roll]

Right.

[Andrew Schulz]

And they're like, no, we have to keep you as mysterious and weird and all this other stuff. And he might be like, okay, well, yeah, I like doing rock and I like dressing weird, but I also like going to volleyball games with my daughter. And that's often more relatable than the mystery. I think he, like, grew up in Egypt too, or something. Like, doesn't he have, like, Christian missionary parents or something like that?

[Jelly Roll]

I don't. I know his mother's, like, a Viking or something like that. That's why he got all the blacks. I swear, man. Like, super. It's a crazy story. That's why he got all that blackout tattooed on him. It was great. He told me one night the full story, but I was really high, so I don't want to butcher that story completely.

[Andrew Schulz]

When's the last time you tied one on? When was the last time you really went for it?

[Jelly Roll]

Snl.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, really?

[Jelly Roll]

Of course.

[Andrew Schulz]

Late night.

[Jelly Roll]

Came out of a. Came out of a burlesque bar at 8:00 in the morning with post an MGK, literally the box or something like that. You went super awesome. Of course, dude. Listen, y'all, I'm from Antioch, Tennessee, dude. I played on Saturday Night Live. How fucking absurd that is. Like, when you really start. Start rap. Like, if you. I tell people, they know that I'm a criminal by my history, and I talk about it openly, but if you just, like, seen it on a sheet of paper and then said, that guy played on Saturday Night Live, people like, get the out of here, dude.

[Akash Singh]

To that point, I listened to this sports station in Dallas. I always talk about it, but they said you. You performed at a cafe, in a radio station. When I say cafe, I mean two vending machines, some small tables. I don't even know, like, 99. 5. The wolf, I think is there in Dallas. I don't know how long ago that was. I. I can't even. I don't even understand that part of your life. What is that journey like for you? What do you reflect on? Like, do you remember that moment?

[Jelly Roll]

Like, yeah, for sure. That was just a few years ago too, man. That was just me going to radio and just trying to be like, yo, man, this is my record. I just would be honored if y'all take a chance to hear it. I was just, like, telling my story, you know what I mean? But even the early dude we played bars for. When you see my show and double the test for this, it reeks of a man who's done a thousand. You know what I mean? Like, does that make sense? Like, I kind of. I joked with Schultz when I was like, have you ever had a shit on stage? But I knew that he's done enough shows that there was a story there. There's no way you've stood on that many stages and the bubble guts haven't hit you to the point of being like, I gotta get the fuck off here. You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schulz]

There's a difference between people who have had, like, years on the road, especially with comics, and then comics who, like, kind of blow up quick and they can be funny.

[Jelly Roll]

That.

[Andrew Schulz]

Comics that blow up quick, but there's different chops on stage. And I imagine the same thing is Prob multiplied by 10 when it comes to bands or when it comes to music. Like, there's no replacement for a decade of shitty shows, because that is going to put you in every scenario possible.

[Jelly Roll]

Dude, it's the TikTok era. Ooh, man, this is good.

[Andrew Schulz]

Schultz, yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Has done this so much because these kids will blow up and be able to sell 2000 tickets, but have never done a single show in their life.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. I mean, you saw it with or.

[Jelly Roll]

3,000 or 4, with all due respect.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like you saw with Ice Spice in our earliest shows. Like, here's this girl that goes from not doing anything to these, like, massive shows. And she had to learn how to perform.

[Jelly Roll]

You got to learn how to perform.

[Andrew Schulz]

In front of the world, like, she had to. And imagine how scary that is. You go from rapping in some random studio to having 10,000 people in front of you, and you're just like. It's not just saying the words anymore. I got to dance. I got to have charisma. It's a different game.

[Jelly Roll]

It is a. It is a. It is a totally different game. It's also about them getting honest booking agents. I'm watching this Aaron Hernandez thing on that, and it was so interesting when he's meeting with his agents. Have y'all seen it yet?

[Akash Singh]

I've heard it's pretty bad, to be honest with you.

[Jelly Roll]

They say that about all the FX shows like that, but I'm so into the story. I watch it. I would watch an animation of whatever Eric happened to that story. It's crazy to me. I've Watched everything you can about it. But it was interesting. I never seen the side of him meeting with the agents. And whether it's true or not, it reminded me of the TikTok era because all these agents are coming in and they're like, you're a first round draft pick. You're a superstar. And then one age agent comes in and goes, you're going to be lucky if we get you picked in the third. Oh, wow. And he's like, I've already picked my guy. Get out of here. He said, I will, but if they told you what's happening at the combine, and he just kind of starts leaning in like, they didn't tell you you got to answer questions for three hours? Did they? They didn't tell you that all 52 teams get to ask you questions for three hours a piece? Did they tell you this? And he's going, he said, yeah, that's because the mother agents are lying to you. Call you when you call me when you realize what's really going on. So he ends up picking that guy, though. But it's like that's happening in the TikTok world because some agents going in with their mom and dad, sometimes these tiktokers, right, and this agent's going, I can get y'all making $20,000 a show right now. We're gonna go right into theaters, we're gonna da, da, da. And then they go meet another booking agent. Who's the right guy who goes, look, I think we need to go play this, like 300 cap room circuit. Let's go do like 40 of these. Just get her familiar with standing on stages, looking at people in the eye. We'll put her in theaters in the spring. Slowly, next spring, we'll ramp her up and we'll put her on an amphitheater tour in three years with somebody, and they're like, fuck you. And they go to the agent that puts them in front of 2,000 people, and they go out and fucking blow it, and it sucks. And everybody reviews it, and the Internet and all their TikTok fans review it, start arguing with each other about how bad the show is. I see it happen in my business all the time. You know what I mean? And the ones who do it right are the ones who go out. Jesse Murph, the one I did wild ones with, example of doing it right. She could have came out the gate selling thousands of tickets, man. They sent that girl over to Australia. They sent her to the UK to do clubs. They said they, I think, I mean, they had her going and doing abroad shows before she was doing big domestic shows. Like, let her go figure it out.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, like, it was, get your chops over there.

[Jelly Roll]

And that also shows how smart she was, that she was in no rush. She was just like, yeah, I know. I know. What I love about Jesse is she's like my little sister. She's so confident in what she does. She's like, I'm here. I just needed somebody to see I could do this. I'm gonna do this forever. That's how she thinks. So she wasn't in no rush. You know what I mean? She really cut her teeth. And even then, just when she comes out with me at MSG after that night, I'm like. I tell my wife, I'm like, is that not a different person from even just who came out with me at Jingle Ball MSG last year? She was like, a completely different person. I was like, just watching her, you know, she'll be in arenas probably next year, if I had to guess, at least amphitheaters.

[Andrew Schulz]

Can I say just about his show without spoiling, like, what the show entails? One thing I'll say, and I was with Vala at the show. It's a stadium show in an arena, which I think the last time I made that comment was when we saw, like, Travis Scott. But just in terms of using the whole room where I'm like, you'll be at MetLife doing this same thing where there's multiple stages, there's the Runway that you're on. And I'm like, this guy is using it. And it's not only that. We've seen enough shows at MSG now we can compare. You could just play up against that end stage, and you're just seeing a concert. You're blocking, meaning the positioning that he's going between songs and when he's moving around these runways to the audience, the entire arena, his production is changing. Things are lowering the skull. Everything was just so perfectly planned that you're like this. This guy's done this for years, and he wouldn't waste, like, to do that level of production. You can't cheat that. Like, that's something where we can now keep on adding it. You're probably part of the production. You told us how many trucks you have coming into that. But that show, if anyone could see this on the road spectacular and not give a way, but let me give everything.

[Jelly Roll]

You think that was you doing a very tasty. You're all in store.

[Andrew Schulz]

We'll cut whatever. But I Didn't give anything, but you could tell who came out.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah, this. Oh, yeah. No, MGK came out. Bust a. Bust a Bus came out. No, this. Msg. Yeah, msg. Bust a Bus came out. Wow.

[Akash Singh]

And he can perform his ass off.

[Jelly Roll]

Dude, listen, man, I have a rule that I don't watch a performer without stealing something.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's my personal rule.

[Jelly Roll]

The good ones borrow, the great ones steal. That's my rule. If I come see you stole something from you the other night, it's what I do.

[Andrew Schulz]

Got.

[Jelly Roll]

I'm watching, I'm stealing. I love it. Bus was on my stage for four minutes and I stole some. That's how good he was.

[Andrew Schulz]

What'd he do?

[Jelly Roll]

Four minutes.

[Andrew Schulz]

What'd he do?

[Jelly Roll]

Four minutes. His opening was so old school hip hop. It was like. So I set it up. There's this really. My show is really. I'm telling a story, but I'm telling two stories, right? But they're the same story in the end. The story of music, the story of the therapy of music and how we all grew up listening to different kind of music. And I do this by, like, playing my music. And then I'll throw covers in the. To show the crowd, like, oh, you don't think you know country music? But yeah. And then I have a trick where I'm like, you don't think you listen to hip hop? But I do it in the form of a story.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Which I'll tell you off camera because I want you to punch it up.

[Andrew Schulz]

But.

[Jelly Roll]

But I. I set it up. And I. And I. And I set the story. You heard me set the story up. And I'm like, yeah. And I grew up listening. I'm in New York, so I'm playing to it. I'm like, I grew up listening to 50 Cent, which I did. I grew up listening to Jay Z. I grew up listening to Big L. I grew up listening to like. And then bus comes out, right? And it comes out. It's like one of them hip hop, like, hold up, turn the music up, jelly roll. And every time the beat would break, he would just scream something up. Left side. Oh, right side. Oh. And him and Spliff.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

And I'm watching them, dude. I'm standing behind them having a I got them on my legs now goosebump moment. And I'm like, that's why this dude is one of the greatest performers in hip hop history.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, man, like, what song did he come out to?

[Jelly Roll]

I don't remember the first record. It went in to break Your neck make my people wanna. He did like a three minute. It was so hard to keep. He did a three minute medley.

[Andrew Schulz]

Medley of all the history.

[Jelly Roll]

He did four minute medley. And I think I heard a piece of every one of his hits. It was crazy. He even put in the past, the Courvoisier, but just the musical part as an interlude into another biggie. So it didn't even come in. It was just that. Daryl dear, don't this hit make my people wanna. And it was just so. And I was just like, man, what a way to do.

[Akash Singh]

We were broke when I first moved to la, so we would just go see rappers at like the late night shows like Conan or Carson or whatever. The Conan film, I guess, in New York. But we saw him at like Carson Daly or something. The room is half full. He comes out. Fucking destroys in a way. I've been to rap concerts. I haven't seen anything like this outside of Travis Scott. And I was everybody. And then one girl walked out and she was like, man, I saw him at the House of Blues. Bottles were literally shaking on the bar just from how much everybody was jumping. Like he was. He's crazy performer. You have no clue.

[Andrew Schulz]

Has any come to the shows that, like, it blew your mind. Like, your manager was like, by the way, jelly, this person's gonna be in attendance tonight?

[Akash Singh]

That's a great question.

[Jelly Roll]

What the fuck? Oh, that's a good one. I don't think nobody that I didn't see coming, like, as far as, like, you know, everybody I'd already kind of built a relationship with. So nobody kind of surprised me. But I'm still surprised anytime anybody comes to my channel, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm still like, oh, y'all know I do this. But I think anytime an athlete comes out is always a little different for us. Because there's a lot of synergy with me and y'all. A lot of synergy with like, anything on this side of art.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

But I don't have as much synergy on that side. You know what I mean? So, like, I still get excited every time Jimmy Butler posts one of my songs. Like, the kid in me is just like, it's crazy. He posted like once a month. Yeah. You know what I mean? But it still doesn't get any less exciting.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

You know that kind of stuff. So, like a couple of actors that are starting to kind of come around to what I do's been cool. Oh, that's what I mean. But it's been. It's been pretty cool, I think. Even, like, bus. Agreeing to come sing with me was really, really special.

[Andrew Schulz]

Even Post, you gave, like, his own section of the show. Like, he had his songs and the ones he has with you, right?

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah, we did our song, and then we did. Yeah, off. We did a country song together, and we did one of his. I love Post, man. That Post.

[Akash Singh]

Another one I'd love to have on this couch, dude.

[Jelly Roll]

He'll come do it. Yeah, I'll put you on the text tonight.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Akash Singh]

I got to talk about it. Being a cowboy fan, that's a.

[Jelly Roll]

That's a. That's a done. That's the easiest connection I'll ever make. That dude is the. Most people in the Nashville Go Jelly Roll is one of the nicest guys ever until they meet. Post Malone's kind of an asshole. Post Malone is that sweet.

[Andrew Schulz]

When we did Crypto, he pulled up and he. And he did a few songs. It was pretty awesome.

[Jelly Roll]

That's just his fucking personality, dude. Dude, is. He don't. He is like. He don't care is what makes him special.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Like, we're backstage, and I still play like it's a bar. I know. It's an arena.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

But, man, me and Post didn't talk about what we were doing until 20 minutes before the show.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, that's funny.

[Jelly Roll]

We didn't have one conversation about. And I'm like, yo, what about, like, let's do this cover? He's like, oh. I was like. First thing I said when I see him in the hallway, I'm like, you cool with just around? He's like, yeah. I was like, I'll see you later then. Right then, I knew it was nothing to worry about. I was like, I'll just go talk to this dude later. And I went. I was just like, yo, let's just go fuck around. Let's do this cover and do this. And I was like, if I end up wanting to keep you out for this record, will you stay? He was like, yeah, I'll stay. And sure enough, I was like, fuck, we gotta do this record. It's the second biggest song in the world right now. Him that I had some help with him and Morgan. I was like, I can't have you at this show. And it's the second biggest song in.

[Andrew Schulz]

The world right now.

[Jelly Roll]

We don't do it. You know what I mean? He's like, you'll do Morgan's part? I was like, hell, no. I was like, I'll butcher it. I'll do the hook and the Bridge. She's like, all right, cool.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's fire. Do you have, like, any insight or opinion on, like, the whole drama with Beyonce not getting nominated for any country awards?

[Jelly Roll]

Man, this is a slippery slope, too. And I'll hang here with you because I'm willing to with my friends. I think that the body of art was incredible. There's no denying that. Like, I always take. Take all politics out of it before we even talk about those. What did the art actually say? Was it good? Right? And the record was good. I don't know if it was Beyonce's best record. You know what I mean? It didn't make me feel the way even Renaissance made me feel as a full body of work, but there was two or three songs on there that I thought could be country song of the year, for sure. What she did with Jolene alone, to me, could have been. Was just unbelievable, you know, and how much Dolly loved it. To me, that's the real tale, right? If Dolly loves it, it's a big deal. So my argument starts with the art. My argument is, yeah, I think she should be nominated because the art was worthy of being nominated. The flip side of the argument, this is my argument. So I don't want to get crucified or nailed to this cross, is that Nashville is a small community that is trying to keep country music as a boundary list genre. And I know boundary list seems like, well, that's the opposite of not putting Beyonce in it, but meaning, like, they never allowed country to get put in sub genres like rock did. So, like, they've kind of like, country is one the last genres left that you could just say there's a country music concert happening, and a certain group of people would still just show up. You know what I mean? Like, it don't really matter. It's like, you know what I mean? Like, you could say there's a pop concert happening and somebody's going, who's going to be there?

[Andrew Schulz]

Got it.

[Jelly Roll]

They could say, hey, man, there's some. There's a country concert happening down the street, and people will kind of just blindly go. Based on the consistency of country music that's being ran by the town of Nashville, my city where I'm from, but this is being ran from the industry. It's like how, you know, like, all the record labels are in New York for hip hop. All of them are for pop in la or, you know, how it used to be, whatever. Now it's kind of everywhere. But these people looked at it, the people who are the 20,000 registered 30,000 registered voters. Like the Grammys only has that many voters or 60,000 or something. 100,000, whatever it is. Right. These people that are in that, look, they are only really hip to what. What's happening in Nashville. Right. So it's not as malicious as one thinks. It's not like in my mind, from what I know of these people, the few. I don't know, all 16,000 of the voters. Neither. Right. Or I'd win more. But it's like the ones I know are just more like. I just. They just missed it because to them it was more of like a, you know, it was a big tick tock moment. The. The Texas Hold'em song. You know, we're like, in country music, there's, you know, we have. There's. There's three award shows, bare minimum. Four really now a year that really matter, like, to us as a community. Like the ACMs, which is the Academy of Country Musics, the CMAs, which is the biggest night of country music. This is the one that's coming up. It's the Country Music Association. I won the Best New Artist last year. Yeah, that was the speech. That was awesome. That was that speech. That is the one, though. That's like. That's a really big deal. I'm nominated for Entertainer of the Year this year. This is a huge, huge honor. And for some of these people, I think they just didn't see the visibility of the album. Not that the album wasn't huge and it wasn't impactful or a great piece of art. They just didn't see the visibility of it. She didn't tour it. It wasn't like, Morgan Wallen is like out here selling out three stadiums a night, like Beyonce did for Renaissance. Now, had the same campaign happened for Renaissance that happened with this album, I would have stood up and been like, this is wrong. You know what I mean? But like, to them, it was more of like an. This is. I'm not. I can't speak for all 16,000. And this isn't how I feel. Just what I've heard, it's like to them, it just felt like an eclectic art piece to try to broaden the horizons of the space. And they felt like that a nod that's even bigger. Some people in this town feel like. What's even bigger than giving her a nod was that Shaboozy broke by being on her album and he's up for Best New Artist of the Year and looking like a winner.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

And he's having a Huge year at country radio and a huge year at all the country award shows. And, like, he's in Nashville in the community writing, but he's in the culture. Yeah, he loves the cultural of Nashville.

[Andrew Schulz]

Whereas Beyonce is a little bit more of an outsider.

[Jelly Roll]

And I'm not saying. I don't think that makes it right that she wasn't nominated.

[Andrew Schulz]

I want to be colonizer, is what you're saying.

[Jelly Roll]

Thank you, Schultz.

[Andrew Schulz]

Thank you, gentrifier, if you will, be the guy using the art form. And. Yeah. I got you a Kardashian that.

[Jelly Roll]

You got it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Got it, got it.

[Jelly Roll]

I got.

[Andrew Schulz]

You get what I'm saying?

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

I get the point you're trying to make. I wouldn't say any of those things. I think she's a brilliant, talented artist. I love lemonade, but it is. You know, I get. I get it. These are the tough things that you gotta. You gotta work. No, I get it. Because it's the same in the film world and the Academy. Nobody asks. No. Just joke. Go, go, go, go. I'm saying it's the same. It's the same thing that applies, like, why people see, like, the nominations. There's 10,000 people in the Academy, and, like, I would guess what percentage of that's like, over 60. That's just been focused on what Hollywood gives you, what wins at some of the film festivals. So you have to. Who's coming from the outside.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah. I wasn't upset when I lost at the Grammys this year because I knew that to the Grammy audience, I was new.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right.

[Jelly Roll]

A lot of these people didn't know I was a human. See me on the bill.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

And then they see me at the best new artists, like, performance, and then they see me in the building and they felt my. My spirit. And now I feel like next year I might have a better chance. I feel like every year I'm building, there might be a better chance towards it.

[Andrew Schulz]

There might have also been a perception where it's just like, if you're the size and success story, just the magnitude of Beyonce, and you pick any other genre to create music in, you're also, like, one of the most talented human beings ever. You pick any other genre, it's going to be popular. If she decides to do techno, it's going to be a number one, like, whatever genre she decides to do it. So maybe there's that feeling where it's like anybody that big that decides to do country is going to have the number one album. They have to be embedded in the culture. And really invest time in the cult. Considered like one of the.

[Akash Singh]

Was it really impactful or was it just Beyonce dropping an album because she's.

[Andrew Schulz]

At the size where she can't be avoided? Like, if she decides to put out a rap album, number one, like, anything she puts out.

[Jelly Roll]

I said this a minute then I was on record early about this. I'm glad it stood the test of time. I, of course, obviously, and there's gonna be. Country music fans are gonna be like, you wasn't welcome here. But it's like, I was so glad she was here. I welcomed her with open arms. Like, I was like, I think it's great for country. Same thing I felt about Post, like.

[Andrew Schulz]

Telling me great for country music.

[Jelly Roll]

You know, how hard it was was to get people to, like. Especially in the world of music. People would just fly right over Nashville to Memphis. Just didn't even think about it. Whether it was hip hop, blues, soul, anything. Memphis had all the culture. I mean, Nashville just frog jumped over anything that was like country music in itself. Country culture, like, what Beyonce did for cowboy hat sales is unheard of. No, no, listen, man. It's a true story. I went to the. There's a. Right there on Sunset. I wish I could remember his name. My boy Miles was with me that night. He's a cowboy for real. He rides horses. My dude that you thought looked like the crud guy, he went to this shop and it's like an old school famous spot on Sunset that sells leather belts, leather hats. It's like an old cowboy store right there on Sunset. And he went in there and the guy says he's known the guy forever. The guy's been stored 20, 30 years some. He goes, how's business? He goes, business better than ever. He goes, really? What's happening? He said two things. Morgan Wallen and Beyonce. Literally, that's. That's exactly like. And this is an old man's perspective who probably, you know, doesn't know what's going on in the world. He just knows that a lot more showed up in his door in the last 12 months.

[Andrew Schulz]

Do you remember what I'm saying? Drew and Run, DMC and Aerosmith did walk this way. Like, that's Adidas. Yeah. What's that?

[Jelly Roll]

No. And then Adidas.

[Andrew Schulz]

And the Adidas, things went crazy. But also just. It's a great movie moment for hip hop. It's also a great moment for rock, but this is a time where rock was the dominant form. And then you do a song with this new upand cominging, exciting Genre of music, and it's a smash fucking hit. You don't think that that's going to help run dmc? Now, I'm not saying that country isn't absolutely. It's probably the most popular right now, but when you take one of the most popular artists of all time and she decides to embrace the genre, that's great for the genre.

[Jelly Roll]

Huge. And I think she should have been nominated for that alone. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that's why I said. But I get. I know how Nashville looked. I think Nashville just missed it. I don't think it was malicious. That's what I will say. I think it was malicious in the midst. Like, they missed it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Unjust.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah. Like, y'all kind of, you know, I mean, but I don't think they missed it. Like, I don't think it was a Turner back to them. Her thing.

[Andrew Schulz]

I wonder if country and I think.

[Jelly Roll]

What she did and her impact is already being proven.

[Andrew Schulz]

Do you see, like, the. The politics of Nashville changing now that country's become, like, the dominant art form? Like, are people trying to, like, buy streams like Nashville in a way that.

[Jelly Roll]

You haven't seen in the past?

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, has the business corrupted?

[Jelly Roll]

No, no, no. I think that's what. It's just expanded. The business of Nashville has just gotten bigger with artists like Beyonce, artists like Post. Now, Post came to Nashville and did the whole Nashville thing. It was the city just. Just he. I think he spent that whole album. I spent two or three months there working on that record. But you just see the business of Nashville getting bigger. Man. What I love about it is seeing country get. Getting mainstream moments like when M. When I was on Em's album, that was, like, huge for us as a genre because, like, for so many years, we like. I'll never forget when TI Got on Brantley Gilbert's Bottoms up remix, and I was like, this was 2006. And I was like, no fucking way. Oh, rap people know country people or country. You know what I mean? Like, it was like, no way. Like, so for that to have went. Went from that to me being on M's album, Morgan being on Dirk's album, Morgan being on Moneybag Yo's record, You know what I'm saying? Like, these kind of. These are the crossovers that are, like, I think are super cool. Like, whenever I see Laney go rock with a pop girl, you know what I'm saying? I'm just like, kick ass, Laney. Kick ass.

[Andrew Schulz]

What's that wagon like in person?

[Jelly Roll]

You asked me that the last time, two years later.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, we need to see that before the OA gets in Nashville, bro. Cuz that thing looked crazy. There's, like, a few images of it where it just looks absurd. I like to see her backstage. Obviously, there's an.

[Jelly Roll]

The cheetah print pants or something like that guy.

[Andrew Schulz]

So did it happen to me? Which one was she?

[Jelly Roll]

Wait, can you remind me? You know what I love about y'all and about pop culture is that's two years old. And as soon as I brought up Lany Wilson's name, both of y'all were like, what's up with the wagon? She talk to me about the thing. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, she got new ones, too?

[Andrew Schulz]

N. She don't got new ones.

[Akash Singh]

Miles has been having a question for an hour. What do you want to ask Miles?

[Andrew Schulz]

Of course, country artists that you find right now that you're like, that's the next big one. Me and Mark this year listen to a lot of red clay strays. Oh, yeah. Oh, I met those guys. We're at the Cellar. They're big comedy fans. Shout out red clay strays, man. They're awesome. And they're like, great, great hang. Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Oh, wow. That's awesome.

[Andrew Schulz]

They had a show here.

[Jelly Roll]

They're huge. I love the.

[Andrew Schulz]

They live in Alabama.

[Jelly Roll]

Treaty Oak Revival's another one. If you like red clays.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I'm trying to see who to put on the. On the Spotify.

[Jelly Roll]

If you like the red clay strays, you'll love Treaty Oak Revival. They're real fun. Their shows are super fun and rowdy. It's kind of got that red clay stray vibe. Teski. That and her. You never heard. No, you'll hit me.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, they're awesome.

[Jelly Roll]

Yeah, you'll hit me.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, you're gonna love them.

[Jelly Roll]

There's this kid. I wouldn't say he's new.

[Andrew Schulz]

What about Malone Black?

[Jelly Roll]

Never heard of Malone Black. Are y'all with me?

[Andrew Schulz]

No. Malone Black.

[Jelly Roll]

I'm getting. I'm getting trolled.

[Andrew Schulz]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[Jelly Roll]

Tell me about Balone Black.

[Andrew Schulz]

Malone Black is one of the greatest country Ras of all time.

[Jelly Roll]

You like.

[Andrew Schulz]

You don't know if I'm alone. Black who. Shut up, Dove. My own Black. Dig in your mouth. Your pity. Who really pissed me off right there. Compliment him anyway. Wait, I want to know who else? Who else? Who else?

[Jelly Roll]

Zack Top.

[Andrew Schulz]

Zack Top?

[Jelly Roll]

You heard a kid. I sleep like a baby.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

I hour so late.

[Andrew Schulz]

No. Dylan Marlo. That seems cool.

[Jelly Roll]

Who?

[Andrew Schulz]

Dylan Marlo.

[Jelly Roll]

I love Dylan Marlo.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, he's off.

[Jelly Roll]

I love Dylan Marlo. So listen, he's got a brother. There's two of them. It's a Dylan and a Cameron.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay?

[Jelly Roll]

And I always get in trouble for this, and I still. I double down on every time I'm a dumbass. One of them is handsome, and one of them can sing. So you answer me this question. Is Dylan Marlo handsome?

[Andrew Schulz]

Tell the truth. Yeah, he's handsome. I'd like to sing good. It sound like he could sing good.

[Jelly Roll]

It sounds like he. Okay, so these not.

[Andrew Schulz]

I haven't seen the brother.

[Jelly Roll]

Okay. No, no, no. He is the handsome one. You're right.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Jelly Roll]

Now look up Cameron Marlo, hold up.

[Andrew Schulz]

Game.

[Jelly Roll]

So he got looks and he could sing.

[Andrew Schulz]

The other one's just.

[Jelly Roll]

And I don't know that they're kin to each other, by the way.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, this guy. This guy is handsome.

[Jelly Roll]

No, that's. No, you see, that's the one. That's the one that can see. Listen, and I'm not saying the other guy. First of all, I know them both, and they're both awesome. Cameron and Dylan are great. I do confuse them, and I'm sorry I smoke pot, but I can name both of their songs right now because he's got that here. To the boys, Mama. That dude's right. He's a hit. That kid's gonna be a hit. Dylan, his is. Cameron is the other Marlo, and he's just got a really big. Cameron's a good singer, but this kid has got a different, like, all right, we're all singers, and we know who the singers are. He's one of the singers. Does that make sense? Like, y'all, you know, like, we know who the singers are. This dude is. That's cool. They don't look alike. No, but Cameron. Cameron's got hiss, though, that dude. That dude's a great writer. But follow this guy, too. But follow both the Marlos, they're great.

[Andrew Schulz]

Jelly, I want to say I'm so proud of you, and I'm so grateful to have you as a friend, and I just cannot wait to see you go even crazier and bigger. And, you know, we're going to be along for the ride, man. So we'll see you at Stagecoach, but we'll also see you, you know, fulfilling all your dreams. It's been awesome to be here to watch it. God bless you, my brother.

[Jelly Roll]

Love you, dog. Thank y'all, boys. Jerryw615.com still got a few shows left. Album out now. Beautifully broken. Please stream, stream, stream. Love y'all.