Minnesota ICE Killings is the Breaking Point: Flagrant Ep 689 - Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Transcript

Alex (0:00)

Can I be honest? If I had to choose who I would rather have in my place? No question. Miles over Mark.

Miles (0:04)

Really?

Alex (0:04)

Miles. Such a good house without 100%. Such a good Miles of cleanup after himself. Miles would probably do dishes and shit. He would, like, feel very guilty about it and really overcompensate. Mark would take this shit for granted. He came in your tub and didn't even walk.

Miles (0:15)

That's the thing. Like, you don't want to go to take a shower after, like, a weekend on the road and then step in another man's tum. You're saying you don't want to walk into your shower, open up the shower curtains. I thought that was really interesting. Jerking off into the shower and not clean and then closing the curtains to, like, hide the evidence. And then I opened the curtains and I splat step my foot right into a pile of seat. A pile of cum that hadn't congealed yet. He kept that bathroom just warm enough. He kept it just warm enough to maintain. Yeah, the liquid form of come. And I stepped and I just broke it and splattered it. Thank you.

Mark (0:55)

Still warm.

David (0:57)

I didn't know that you were sitting outside the tub in, like, location, location, location. Into the tub, not in the tub.

Miles (1:03)

Oh, yeah. Well, you had a choice to make.

Mark (1:04)

I think I was laying down in the tub.

David (1:07)

You had a toilet.

Mark (1:08)

No, no, you can't go in the toilet. That's crazy.

Alex (1:10)

Laying down in the tub is a crazy. That's a committed.

Miles (1:12)

You were not laying down in the tub. There's no way you're laying down in the tub.

Mark (1:15)

No, no, no.

Miles (1:15)

So you're standing up in the shower, you jerked off onto the floor, and you thought it would drain in, and then you forgot to do the water. Yeah, and then I went to take a shower, and then I stepped on a sticky substance. Substance.

David (1:26)

You've peed in so many sinks. How did you not think the sink was.

Summary

Episode Overview

Title: Minnesota ICE Killings is the Breaking Point
Podcast: Flagrant with Andrew Schulz & Akaash Singh
Episode: 689
Date: January 28, 2026

Main Theme:
This episode, the Flagrant crew drops their signature humor and irreverence to grapple with a very real and current crisis: the Minnesota ICE killings and the Trump administration's controversial response. After a typically wild first hour, the group wrestles with police violence, government accountability, and the American psyche in the wake of a horrifying incident. The episode mixes personal anecdotes and comedic relief with serious, impassioned commentary on civil rights, propaganda, and the state of political discourse.

Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Comedy & Crew Antics ([00:00]-[21:09])

Opening Banter: The gang tells ribald stories about crashing at each other's apartments, shower etiquette, and cleaning mishaps. This includes a detailed, comedic account of a “sticky shower incident” and flat-out absurd confessions about jerking off in odd places, which sets a raw, raucous tone.
Friendship Roasts: They riff on who’s worse as a houseguest and reminisce about times some were homeless or couch-surfing.
Notable Quote:
- Miles: "Can I be honest with you? To this day, my right heel is far smoother than my left. Something happened." ([01:36])
Discussion on Religion: The hosts share experiences about communion, “wafer quality” at church, and religious guilt/policies, mixed with their characteristic religious irreverence.
Comedy About Masculinity: A running joke on penis size propaganda and the Greeks valuing small penises, culminating in riffing on Michelangelo’s David.
- Alex: "Ancient Greeks preferred small penises… the wisdom of the gods." ([17:59])

2. Transition - From Jokes to Outrage ([21:10]-[23:53])

Switch to Serious Topics: After an ad break, the conversation abruptly pivots to the ICE shooting in Minnesota and the Trump administration’s attempted framing of the incident.
Immediate Outrage: The entire room is appalled at what they see as gaslighting by officials, especially with so much video evidence available.
Notable Quote:
- Miles: “I murdered an American citizen in cold blood, and then the Trump administration called him a domestic terrorist.” ([21:10]) (portraying the governmental narrative for effect)

3. The Minnesota ICE Killings and Government Accountability ([23:53]-[36:42])

The Incident Itself:
- Trump officials immediately blamed the victim, an American citizen protesting while legally armed, labeling him a terrorist.
- Hosts lambast the rapid official response without reviewing evidence, calling it “gaslighting” and “disgusting.”
ICE Overreach:
- “Little Gestapo-ish” conduct described—wearing masks, lack of accountability, and outright constitutional violations (notably Fourth Amendment concerns).
The Numbers Spin:
- Only 5% of those deported are violent criminals, yet officials justify broad sweeps on the basis of public safety.
- Miles: "If you bring up another fucking pedophile about deporting and you’re not releasing the Epstein list, just shut the fuck up, all of you." ([23:28])
Chilling Effect:
- Many Americans—right or left—afraid to speak up publicly for fear of backlash.

4. The Flagrant Platform: Criticism and Responsibility ([26:13]-[29:41])

On Having Trump On the Podcast:
- The crew faces criticism for giving Trump a platform, but they defend their record of interviewing figures from all sides and maintaining critical independence.
- Akash: "We’ve never been a podcast that’s like, hey, you should listen and do what we say… we’re just curious guys who wanted to have a conversation." ([27:04])
Call for Humane Policy:
- Hosts reminisce about pushing Trump for a focus on criminal deportations only, expressing betrayal at current mass ICE actions.
- Comparison to Obama era deportations, which, they argue, were at least more humane.

5. Political Double Standards and Public Perception ([29:41]-[36:30])

Selective Outrage & Hypocrisy:
- Noting the right’s sudden pivot on Second Amendment rights when the victim isn’t “one of theirs.”
- Miles: "Where was the same energy with Kyle Rittenhouse?" ([31:09])
Imagining Reversed Scenarios:
- What if a future Democratic administration sent agents door-to-door after gun owners? Conservatives would be livid.
Systemic Cruelty:
- ICE actions are “intentionally cruel,” supported by an administration that instantly closes ranks.
- Alex: "Immediate knee jerk reaction. It was like a group text went out: hey, show strength." ([29:27])

6. Political Fallout and Potential Consequences ([36:30]-[43:17])

Midterm Predictions:
- Consensus: The administration’s handling is so unpopular, they are “going to get absolutely washed in the midterms.” ([35:38])
Conspiracy Concerns:
- Mark wonders aloud about “canceling the midterms” as martial law, acknowledging this sounds far-fetched but indicative of rising paranoia.
Suppression & Censorship:
- The hosts discuss the sudden throttling of ICE-critical content on TikTok immediately after U.S. businessmen take ownership—a “China, but make it American” moment.
- Miles: "No videos about ICE, no videos about the shooting, no videos about political pushback… That’s like Russia. State-sanctioned censorship." ([48:15]-[48:56])

7. Faith in Institutions & The American Psyche ([43:17]-[56:36])

Despair & Desensitization:
- General agreement that official corruption and hypocrisy, even from both sides, has led to mass cynicism and apathy.
- The Minnesota incident “feels different,” even in a sea of prior police violence—perhaps because this time the victim was white and the brutality is so blatant (“This guy was white, Alex. That’s very different.” [43:57])
Gun Ownership Reconsidered:
- They muse on how many now feel less secure in exercising “constitutional rights” like open carry.
- Akash: "Because of what just happened, I’m second guessing whether or not I should get the gun I’m currently applying for." ([44:43])
On Civil Courage:
- They commend the Minnesotan victim’s decision to defend another (a woman pepper sprayed by ICE), while admitting it’s a near-impossible choice for anyone.
- Akash: "I know myself, if I saw a wrong happening, I’m going to [act]." ([46:12])

Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

On ICE Conduct:
- “You have a government-enforced militia with no accountability… What do you think is going to happen? More of this is going to happen.” (Miles, [24:03])
On Official Deflection:
- “Accountability for her [Ilhan Omar] is not accountability for this.” (Miles, [30:26])
On Civil Rights:
- “If you see it with your own eyes, you know exactly what happened… There’s no partisan bullshit with this. You know exactly what happened.” (Miles, [22:43])
On Media Manipulation:
- “It just so happens it’s the biggest political controversy of the year and the biggest social media platform in the world just isn’t working.” (Miles, [48:47])
On Protest:
- “The power of respectful protest… And the thing [is] midterms are coming up, they’re going to get absolutely washed…” (Miles, [35:03])
On Cultural Observations & Coping:
- “Politics is Real Housewives for men.” (Miles, [55:19])
- “Sometimes just being happy in the presence of misery is an amazing fucking fight.” (Miles, [57:45])
On Ethics and Pawnshops:
- “No one’s ever given someone a good deal behind a bulletproof glass window.” (Mark, [69:10])

Key Timestamps for Critical Segments

[21:10] – Serious turn: Minnesota ICE shooting discussion begins.
[23:28] – “If you bring up another fucking pedophile…” (on Epstein list).
[25:00] – Constitutional violations by ICE.
[26:13] – Platform criticism and responsibility.
[29:27] – Instant administration deflection and spin.
[31:09] – Second Amendment hypocrisy/Kyle Rittenhouse comparison.
[35:38] – Midterms, protest fallout.
[43:57] – Race and public outrage.
[44:43] – Rethinking gun ownership after ICE shooting.
[48:15] – Social media censorship (TikTok discussion).
[55:19] – Politics vs. Reality TV for men.

Final Thoughts & Takeaways

The Flagrant crew delivers a rare, unfiltered condemnation of government and ICE brutality, refusing to hide behind partisan takes or podcast brand-building.
They dissect the Minnesota ICE incident not just as news, but as a cultural and moral breaking point—where political excuses and “team” loyalty fall away in the face of undeniable horror.
The contrast between the episode’s comedic chaos and the second-hour’s urgent, often heated analysis underscores both the complexity of public outrage and the power of honest discussion.
The group remains committed to calling out injustice, regardless of prior associations, emphasizing that “not retreating to the security of a side” is critical—even if it comes at a cost.

Mark ([57:45]): “Sometimes just being happy in the presence of misery is an amazing fucking fight.”
Miles ([59:08]): “If he literally just came out and did exactly what he was saying on the pod with us… I don’t know a single American that would push back on that. But this is fucking heinous.”

STRUCTURE REFERENCE

1. Opening raunchy banter and comedy revolving around friendship, cleanliness, masculinity, and cultural observations.
2. An abrupt, serious pivot to the Minnesota ICE killings and the government/media spin.
3. Dissection of the broken accountability system, the misuse of government force, and the relevance of personal rights.
4. Critical discussion of the public’s role, protest, and what it means to have a platform in these times.
5. Reflection on the American psyche, faith in government, the lure of cynicism, and the need for hope and action.