Tourettes N-Word Pass? Epstein Alive, & Trump stirs Hockey Drama | #693

Summary

Flagrant Podcast Episode #693 Summary

Episode Title: Tourettes N-Word Pass? Epstein Alive, & Trump stirs Hockey Drama
Release Date: February 25, 2026
Hosts: Andrew Schulz, Akaash Singh, AlexxMedia, Mark Gagnon

Main Theme

The Flagrant crew dives into a wild, joke-heavy discussion about current hot-button stories in comedy, sports, and politics, touching on controversies from a Tourette's outburst at the BAFTA Awards, the U.S. hockey win and subsequent culture war drama, the Epstein files and meritocracy, and the debate around Olympic athletes representing foreign countries. As always, the tone is irreverent, flagrant, and unfiltered, pulling no punches when it comes to taboos.

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Key Discussion Points and Segments

1. Tourette's Outbursts & Social Boundaries

Timestamps: 00:00 – 15:30

• Opening riff: The crew riffs on Tourette's syndrome—whether using offensive slurs due to Tourette's is excusable, how much is truly involuntary, and how society should respond.
• BAFTA Awards Incident: They react to viral outrage over a Scottish actor with Tourette's shouting the N-word at a major film ceremony. Debate centers on the sincerity of the outburst and racism vs. compulsion.
• Memorable quote:
  • “If Tourette is involuntary, why you waiting for the moment of silence? ...the beat drop. The beat drop.” – Miles (14:41)
• The hosts share personal anecdotes (e.g., handling a Tourette's audience member at a show) and joke about racial dynamics, “N-word passes,” and social taboos.
• They also poke fun at possible double standards, highlighting how the reaction might differ if a black person had the same outburst.

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2. Code-Switching & Political Pandering

Timestamps: 24:19 – 33:12

• Gavin Newsom's “Black it Up” Moment: Discussion of California governor Newsom pandering to black audiences with awkward code-switching at a rally:
  • “I'm just trying to press upon you. I'm no better than you. You know, I'm a 960 SAT guy.”
• Debating fake relatability, political code-switching, and “urbanizing” speeches.
• Memorable exchange:
  • “It’s one thing to code switch a little. It’s another thing to be like, ‘Yo, I’m Black dude, I financed a Hellcat.’ You can’t—don’t say that. That’s where it’s bad.” – Mark (32:58)
• Broader riff on how code-switching works across cultures/traveling and how “patriotism” manifests in jokes.

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3. Culture War Invades the Olympics & Hockey

Timestamps: 40:43 – 50:00

• Celebration and jokes around Team USA’s victory over Canada in hockey, and ensuing drama as political operatives and figures (Cash Patel, Donald Trump) turn the locker room into a political circus.
• They tease how athletes get swept into culture war flashpoints, often unfairly.
• “Every one of these athletes gets just jammed through this culture war microscope and it's so exhausting. It's like, just let them have their fuckin’ win. They're kids.” – Miles (48:06)

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4. The “Selling Out” Debate: Olympians Who Compete for Other Countries

Timestamps: 50:13 – 61:00

• Comparison of two half-Chinese, half-American Olympians: Eileen Gu (competes for China—huge endorsement money) vs. Alysa Liu (for Team USA—classic, freedom-loving American story).
• Fiery debate about nationalism, selling out for “the bag,” and loyalty vs. opportunity.
• “My feeling is, whatever country fed you, you gotta represent them. …If you can't make that team, then you could go to another one. But I don't think it should be okay for one country to literally raise you… and then when it's time to compete, you go somewhere else.” – Miles (52:26)
• Mark, Al, and Miles riff on what it means to be “American” and whether they'd ever represent another country (“I’m upset I didn’t join the army, bro”—Miles dream monologues; see 56:33–58:53).
• “What an honor to represent your country. You're a Judas.” – Miles (58:01)

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5. Class, Meritocracy, and the Epstein Files

Timestamps: 77:25 – 110:58

• Epstein Recap and Prince Andrew: Update on Prince Andrew’s legal trouble for passing UK trade docs to Epstein, not for sexual abuse but improper use of office.
• Dissecting how the “meritocracy” myth has been debunked—elite access, nepotism, and the myth of “cream rises to the top.”
  • “All these people that are making all this money... No, you just know the deal that’s going to happen before it happens.” – Miles (79:03)
• Riff on how the system in America touts equal opportunity while secretly running on privilege and connections.
• “If you fail, and you’re a failure, it’s because you didn’t work hard and you’re actually not smart and you’re a loser.” – Mark (82:10) (Channeling Alan de Botton)
• Parallels drawn between class resentment, the Epstein files, and populist/racial anger.
• Epstein’s Death & Conspiracies:
  • Jokes and speculation over whether Epstein is dead, how the jail guards (Tova Noel & Michael Thomas) could keep a secret, and the ridiculousness of the “official” story. (“No way those two guys are keeping secrets. There’s no way…” – Miles, 94:48)
• Philosophizing on revolution, justice, and how the ultra-rich avoid accountability while the system throws plebs a few distractions (99:00–110:00).

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6. Closing: Love for Alysa Liu (“The American Spirit”)

Timestamps: 61:52 – 73:12

• Deep appreciation for Alysa Liu’s journey, her “free spirit,” and what she represents for “Americana.”
• They contrast her narrative with media-coached, “perfect” Eileen Gu, celebrating Liu for doing things “her way.”
• “There's this love and support, like all of America is behind this girl. …She just embodies this beautiful American spirit.” – Miles (71:12)
• Conclude with a call for America to match China’s support for elite athletes.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• "If Tourette is involuntary, why you waiting for the moment of silence?... the beat drop." — Miles (14:41)
• “Would you bail him out if you were his homie? …No, I'm clutching my pearls, yo.” — Al & Miles (20:11)
• “The second you insert yourself in the room [as a political operative], it becomes culture war.” — Miles (44:19)
• “That’s the pod. …Yes, that's the pod. People with a southern accent cannot change their accent.” — Miles (31:46, code-switching riff)
• “You just have the answers to the test. …You're not smarter than any of us.” — Miles (79:03, on elite ‘meritocracy’)
• “If she wasn’t good, you wouldn’t care.” — Al (53:39, debate over Olympic ‘loyalty’)
• “Any chance to represent America over another country, I’m taking. …I wish I joined the army, bro.” — Miles (56:00–58:53)
• "White people are just finding out the system is against them too. ...You're black too, you just didn't realize it." — Miles (83:08)
• “Every one of these athletes gets just jammed through this culture war microscope and it's so exhausting.” — Miles (48:06)
• “There's this love and support, like all of America is behind this girl. …She just embodies this beautiful American spirit.” — Miles (71:12)

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Recurring Themes & Running Jokes

• Disability as a Get-Out-of-Jail-Free Card: Running bits about using Tourette's or other disabilities to say whatever you want.
• Race and Social Taboos: Heavy use of racial and sexual taboos in the context of irreverent comedy.
• Selling Out for the “Bag”: Jokes about switching allegiance or code-switching for money.
• Meritocracy is a Myth: Ongoing references to how “the game is rigged” for elites.
• Patriotism & American Pride: Sarcastic and earnest bits about loving America, wishing to serve, and the joy of representing your country.

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Useful Timestamps by Topic

• Tourette's/N-word & BAFTAs: 00:00–15:30
• Code-switching/Newsom/Southern accents: 24:19–33:12
• Olympics, Hockey, Culture War: 40:43–50:00
• Olympic Loyalty debate: 50:13–61:00
• Alysa Liu & national feels: 61:52–73:12
• Epstein, Class, Meritocracy: 77:25–110:58

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Tone & Dynamics

Flagrant as ever—rowdy, unfiltered, sharp, and boundary-pushing. The team alternates between social commentary, inside jokes, wild hypotheticals, and meta-commentary on their own show format.

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Recommended for

Anyone who wants the Flagrant crew's comedic, rowdy take on current controversies—unconcerned with political correctness but rich in contemporary pop culture, sports, and political hot-button insight. This episode is especially entertaining for those interested in debates about free speech, cancel culture, patriotism, and the corruption of elites.

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Skip if easily offended—literally nothing is sacred here.

Transcript

[Andrew Schultz]

All right.

[Miles]

What's up, everybody? Welcome to flagrant Kraken. Damn.

[Mark]

What is that?

[Miles]

Oh, wait, what did you have? Like, an involuntary auditory response.

[Al]

I can't control it.

[Miles]

Oh, is that what's happening right now? Yeah. Oh. Oh, got it, got it, got it. Come on.

[Al]

Don't let me interrupt.

[Miles]

Yeah, I'm not gonna let you interrupt. I was just gonna introduce everybody. What's up, his Schultzes? This is Alex, Medium honky. Oh, it feels like he might be making fun of disabled people. They are racist.

[Mark]

Yeah, you're making fun of racist disabled people.

[Miles]

What the hell, dude? Can't do that.

[Al]

Oh, yeah. That's actually kind of bad. Yeah,

[Miles]

that's a stroke of luck to be racist and have Tourette's, right? Like, cuz. Cuz Miles has no excuse for his racism.

[Al]

Yeah, I know.

[Miles]

Cuz we know he doesn't have Tourette's. He has to, like, sneak it in, even though we see it every single time. But, like, to be racist and then just be like, oops every single time. And people feel bad for you. That.

[Mark]

Can you explain to the good people what's going on?

[Miles]

It's basically like having a Siamese twin and being into incest. No, I mean literally. I mean, literally, what's going on? Think about it.

[Mark]

I didn't mean another metaphor.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, no.

[Miles]

Think about it. It's like, if you're into incest, every time you touch you, you're touching a family, Right? Like, but so if you have a Siamese twin, it's your pussy and their pussy, bro.

[Mark]

That's a good point.

[Miles]

Your dick and their dick.

[Mark]

I never thought about that.

[Miles]

Yeah, you don't think about people who are Siamese twins and into inc. Cuz. Wait, hold on. You don't think about that? I never thought about it. Think about it. Think about. Think about how lucky they are you're born a Siamese twin. Right before you reach your sexual nature, you're like, oh, my God, this sucks. And like, I got this head coming out of here. Yeah. Then all of a sudden you hit puberty and you're like, man.

[Al]

Or you're 18.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Or you're 18. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At 18 years old, you hit puberty and you're like, damn, I just really want to fuck my family. And then you're like, wait a minute.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh.

[Miles]

And then your brother is like, harold, why. Why are you rubbing our butthole? I'm still working it out, guys. I'm still working it out.

[Mark]

Wait, so if your two brothers Siamese style.

[Miles]

Yes.

[Mark]

So sharing a Body, but in one genital organ.

[Miles]

The dream. If you love incest. Okay, if you love incest, that is the dream. If you are crippled by that disability of loving the idea of fucking your family members and you have one attached to you, they're growing off your back. They can't do shit. Damn, they can't do.

[Mark]

That's why one is gonna be like

[Al]

this, the other one's gonna be like that.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Al]

So only one of them, I think they control aside.

[Miles]

We never know. We don't know what the situation.

[Mark]

Who controls the piece. Like, who feels the piece the most.

[Miles]

Ideally, your brother, then you jerking his dick. Because that's what someone who's into incest would like. Again, I'm just putting a hypothetical heart there.

[Mark]

They both feel it the same. And then they gotta take turns. They'd be like, yo, you got it tonight, guys.

[Miles]

Look, there are Siamese twins out there.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

We can ask them about these things. My suspicion is that they are not also afflicted with a lustful desire of incest.

[Al]

Yeah. You can't have two both into incest. That would be nuts.

[Mark]

Come on now.

[Al]

If they are, let's be realistic.

[Mark]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[Miles]

Hypothetically speaking, if they are, why leave the house? It's like, every day. Super Bowl. There's nothing you would need to do in life. Damn. What? What was that sound?

[Mark]

That's My jaw hurt.

[Miles]

Okay, so can we talk about this, man? This brutal disease that he has that allows you to just be yourself at all times.

[Mark]

Can we explain?

[Al]

My bad. Tourette's people wasn't making fun of y'.

[Miles]

All. Well, here's the thing with Tourette's people. Like, how often is it that. That they just yell this? Because I saw that one Tourette's girl on Instagram.

[Al]

Yeah. I still think it's fake.

[Miles]

So. So that's the thing. Like, how much of it is, like, leaning into it? You don't think there's a little part of him who's, like, telling his boys, Like, I'm gonna say it the second. The second two black guys are up

[Mark]

there, I'm gonna say, we gotta check the couch yachts. Because there's one person that's like, oz, they screamed the N word during the

[Miles]

baptism, and it was 10 million they put on it.

[Mark]

They have a random account.

[Miles]

There's no way. I hope to God. There's no way. I hope to God. There's no way. So is it racism or Go, go, go, or what? Or is it that thing where you're like, we all think of the worst thing you could possibly do in a moment, right. You're at a funeral and you're like, oh, God. And like you start kind of giggling to yourself because it would be really inappropriate if you did something. If you would I just scream the embers? Like, wouldn't that be really inappropriate?

[Mark]

That would be really appropriate.

[Miles]

That would be really fucked up. And none of us would do that. I've never had that thought.

[Mark]

No.

[Miles]

You know way more dead people.

[Mark]

I know some.

[Miles]

You've been to way more funerals than me.

[Mark]

I've been handful.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Mark]

But I wouldn't ever say that. I would never yell at a funeral.

[Miles]

There's no. There's no proof that you haven't done it.

[Mark]

No. There's people that have been to these funerals that would testify on my behalf.

[Miles]

Yeah, they probably testify because you got a bunch of lying Catholics in your family. Nobody's going to trust that goy slap testimony anyway. No, trust that goy slap. You're going to go up there.

[Mark]

We can agree you shouldn't do it at a funeral no matter what.

[Miles]

I don't think you should do it any situation.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Now if you know that there was a chance you're gonna do this, would you show up to the award show?

[Mark]

I mean, it's his award show. Also, like, it was for the movie that he was in.

[Miles]

Yeah, it was made about him. Yeah. But, like, if you know that this could happen and it might overshadow this beautiful movie that was made about you, would you do it?

[Mark]

Remember when we.

[Al]

What about like a dog muscle?

[Miles]

And then no matter what word you say, it turns it into. Not the N word. Yeah. Well, potential. We had a show. It's a potential fix. We had a show. Shout out. It was in California somewhere. I forget. I'm pretty sure it was upstate. Oh, it was upstate.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Okay, My bad. Anyway, we had a show and there was a woman who had Tourette's. And I think it was apparent pretty early.

[Mark]

She disclosed it to the club.

[Miles]

She disclosed it to the club? Yeah. And what I said to Dove was, I was like, look, here's the deal. I want you guys to enjoy this show. My fear is that if you start having the ticks, it might interrupt the show and interrupt the other people who are able who came here to go watch the show. And you might also feel embarrassed. I'm gonna have to address it and I don't want to embarrass it. Like it might be a whole thing. Would you be down to watch the show side stage. So we're, like, able to put her side stage, some might say a better seat.

[Al]

You put her in the colors only section, bro. That's crazy.

[Miles]

The fact that you would assume.

[Al]

That's craz crazy.

[Miles]

Yeah, you would. You would make it racial.

[Al]

This whole thing is racial, man. I'm traumatized.

[Miles]

He was yelling now, how the hell did he not just yell whatever race the rest of the presenters were to even it out?

[Mark]

Well, apparently he did say some other slurs, or not slurs, but throughout.

[Miles]

But he has to slur it every time.

[Mark]

Yeah, well, yeah, you have to follow it up with another slur just to get it off. You being like, oh, I'm not always racist.

[Miles]

Like, if Alan Cummings is up there, what would you say if you have that.

[Mark]

Well, he is Scottish.

[Miles]

Yeah. So what would you say? What would you be. What would you think about something Scottish? Oh, hey, look at you.

[Mark]

Yeah. All right.

[Miles]

That's a good. That's a Scottish slur. Like, he could say that.

[Mark]

I like Alan Cummings too much, but

[Miles]

I can't say Alan Cummings is the man.

[Al]

I know he's dope.

[Miles]

I love him, but there's no way a tick goes off, like, every time Alan cumming, like, even hearing that I'm ticking.

[Mark]

Right.

[Miles]

I don't want to let something loose. Has anybody ever told them to not say, like, try to not say it,

[Mark]

but that probably makes you want to say more. Yeah, I guess I've heard people say that. It's like an OCD thing where you're like, oh, don't say the worst thing. And then you say the worst thing. It comes out.

[Miles]

That does. That is true.

[Mark]

So if you say don't say it, it's the worst thing. You also have to say, hey, save whatever you want. And then they. The OCD will.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

And then someone said that to him and he was like, fine, this has nothing to do with Tourette's.

[Al]

It's like telling you something off pod

[Miles]

and then don't bring it up.

[Mark]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Miles]

You're saying I do that.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Personal information for the entire Internet. Basically all my past relationships, but not this current one.

[Al]

Not this current one. Yeah.

[Miles]

I don't say anything because I don't tell you anymore. No, I don't say anything about her visa issues. I don't say anything about her visa issues.

[Mark]

He's talking about the credit card, you know.

[Miles]

Yeah, yeah. Do you ever in a fight, bring that up? In a fight with her? Do you ever just. You'll never in a fight, just play villain all ice guys right now.

[Al]

Yeah, there's ice and Trump around. It's not.

[Mark]

It's not fun.

[Al]

That's not.

[Mark]

It's not funny.

[Miles]

But she never brings up in a fight. Oh, your dick gets skinnier as it goes to the base.

[Mark]

Factual observation.

[Miles]

She never brings that up. Like you talk about that. Why does your dick get skinnier as it goes to the base? It's your torpedo looking dick. I don't want to open up another WTF studio with your torpedo looking dick having ass and then you never want to say anything.

[Al]

Nah, it's like the middle porridge. It's just right. It's just right.

[Miles]

I knew where you were going with that. I think so.

[Mark]

I don't know your favorite new phrases every day. That's awesome.

[Miles]

His favorite Jewish bears. Perfect goy slop to get you to Jewish. Just do. No, wait. It's the Beren Bears.

[Mark]

It's Goldilocks.

[Al]

No, Goldilocks.

[Miles]

Well, isn't that also their thing? Gold and locks. That's good. That's good.

[Mark]

Off the cuff racism.

[Miles]

So no matter what bear it is. Wait, were they even. Was Goldilocks a bear?

[Mark]

There were bears involved, but I don't know what their religion was. We have no. Don't do that. We have no.

[Miles]

What does Dove's name mean?

[Mark]

Okay, technically that means Baron.

[Miles]

I'm just saying. Guys, do the math.

[Al]

Wow.

[Miles]

Don't let me start talking about the Ninja Turtles. Mark. Don't let me start talking about the Ninja Turtles.

[Mark]

That one I think you're fine to talk about.

[Miles]

Mark.

[Mark]

Technically not racist.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hold on.

[Miles]

I'm sending it to Joey right now. Don't let me talk about the Ninja Turtles.

[Mark]

He sent me this at two in the morning last night.

[Miles]

Don't let me not. I wasn't getting radicalized. 2:00am Dude, I wasn't getting radicalized because my wife is sleeping in the other room with the newborn and I'm by myself to scroll as long as my. That heart's desire. Yeah, that's a nice scroll right there.

[Mark]

Unlimited doom scroll.

[Miles]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark]

You're on your own.

[Al]

What you got? What you got? I cut.

[Miles]

Don't let me get started about the indoctrination. Indoctrination.

[Mark]

It's the indoctrination because. What is it?

[Miles]

Oh, come on, do the math. Here it is.

[Mark]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is a show about reptiles, reptilians living underground in underground tunnels. What food do they like the most?

[Miles]

Pizza.

[Mark]

Pizza is code word for pedophiles. Their connection with April is their connection

[Miles]

to the mainstream Media.

[Mark]

How they influence the masses from behind the scenes. So, Shredder, we owe you an apology, fam.

[Miles]

These writers just put it in front

[Mark]

of our faces for too long. So no eggs, Spitting.

[Miles]

I mean, a few things.

[Mark]

I don't think turtles are reptiles.

[Miles]

I think they're.

[Mark]

I think they're amphibians.

[Miles]

Yeah, they're. They're definitely amphibians. What do you mean, definitely? You're a reptile. Why would it be a reptile? It's an amphibian. Obviously, they had to throw the scent off the trail. Yeah. You think they're gonna actually put a reptile under there? That would be too obvious. Okay, yeah, yeah.

[Mark]

Pizza's not. I mean, pizza's code for something else used by the PDFs.

[Al]

And turtles were into a lot of pizza.

[Miles]

Yeah. And what about April? What about their connection to April?

[Mark]

I don't know what April is.

[Miles]

April is. Oh, my God, Mark.

[Mark]

I didn't watch this.

[Miles]

I have a childhood.

[Mark]

I didn't watch. I'm not gonna watch this satanic pedophile show. I watched other stuff.

[Miles]

Rachel.

[Mark]

No, from the top.

[Miles]

Rachel was a badass. Ginger.

[Mark]

Her name's April.

[Al]

What the Are you reading?

[Mark]

Damn, dude. He's really. He's losing.

[Miles]

I'm losing him. Really taking over.

[Mark]

I'm saying it kind of wrong.

[Miles]

Badass ginger named April.

[Al]

Thank you.

[Miles]

Work for the media. Propaganda for the Ninja Turtles. Oh, what channel? Channel 6.

[Mark]

6.

[Miles]

6.

[Mark]

6. What does that mean?

[Miles]

Devil's number.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Do the math. Do the math.

[Mark]

Why don't we start on this? What was it?

[Miles]

I don't. We're talking about bafta. Can we get some AC in here? It's getting hot.

[Al]

This guy has, like, Stage four, right?

[Miles]

Oh, man. Al Gotta. Al, come on.

[Mark]

He might just have alopecia.

[Miles]

You know, he looks like. Do you remember Harry Potter? When the guy takes off the turban.

[Mark]

Yo. He's on the back of the Sorcerer's Stone.

[Miles]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Professor Coral.

[Miles]

Yep, he got a little of that.

[Mark]

Look.

[Miles]

But he's spitting right now. Yeah, he's spitting right now.

[Al]

Yeah, but he didn't even mention the tunnels in the rats.

[Miles]

He did.

[Mark]

He did. He mentioned.

[Al]

I missed. I missed it. Oh, I couldn't get past the new eyebrows.

[Miles]

That is crazy. Yeah,

[Mark]

he's just ascending, bro. He's ascending right now.

[Miles]

What do we do about the guy with Tourette's? Do we forgive him? Because this is an illness that he did not ask to have. Is it actual racism? I've heard a lot of people saying that it is actually Racist. And we're not going to forgive him.

[Mark]

Having Tourettes, I think both things can be true. I think they could be legitimately offended if they choose to be.

[Al]

Yes. But also, I was offended.

[Mark]

Yeah, you were.

[Al]

Secondhand offense.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yep.

[Miles]

Tell. Tell us what it felt like.

[Al]

I didn't see the clip, actually.

[Mark]

All right, well, let's see how offended you are. Go ahead, roll the. Roll the clip.

[Al]

Wow. You going to subject me to that again?

[Mark]

Again. Again.

[Miles]

You didn't see the clip.

[Al]

Hey. Well, they lie first, second time for everything.

[Miles]

They lie for everything.

[Al]

Presenting the first BAFTA of the night

[Mark]

for a vital part of movie making.

[Al]

We're here to. Funny.

[Mark]

That's not funny, bro.

[Miles]

That's not funny.

[Al]

That's not funny. That's not funny.

[Miles]

That's great. He's screaming.

[Mark]

He waited.

[Miles]

He waited for the feet. He waited for the moment of silence.

[Al]

Tourette's, bro.

[Miles]

Come on, cuz. If Tourette is involuntary, why you waiting for the moment of silence? Yeah, the beat drop. The beat drop.

[Mark]

You're tell me that guy's racist. With that perfect a timing, there's no way.

[Al]

And what, Tourette, are you screaming at

[Miles]

the top of your lungs? That isn't great. He could have whispered it. He could have set it into his shirt. He's like, nah, I want y' all to hear me.

[Al]

I ain't miked up.

[Miles]

And everybody heard. When was the last time you heard anyone in the audience at one of these award shows? They don't even mic the audience. I bet they had a mic on him. I would not be surprised if they mic'd him up just in case. All right, guys, here are a comedy show dates in less than 30 seconds. I got a new one. We just added Nashville, Tennessee, coming to Zany's, March 20th through the 21st. Very excited to come out there, do some new stuff. March 28th, Providence, Rhode Island. May 8th, Los Angeles, Angeles. August 8th, Halifax, Nova Scotia. All those shows@theandrew Schultz.com Dead ass.

[Mark]

What are you doing if you're sitting next to him?

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Mark]

And he just yells. Everyone turns around and they're looking at. They don't know who said it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Start pointing fast.

[Miles]

That's like those twin NBA players and one of them was gay. Remember the Collins brothers? Yeah, yeah. That's a trick.

[Andrew Schultz]

What do you do?

[Mark]

Do you act offended

[Miles]

when. If he just yells it, he yells it.

[Mark]

Everyone looks back and go, who said it? And then what? Do you sell him out? You sell a guy with a disability?

[Miles]

I. Yeah.

[Mark]

What do you do?

[Miles]

Go, I'm Selling them out immediately.

[Mark]

Yeah, you go right here. He did it.

[Miles]

He did it.

[Mark]

Okay.

[Miles]

I don't even know what I would

[Mark]

do in that situation, Mark.

[Miles]

That is terrifying.

[Mark]

Because it could be offended.

[Al]

What would you do?

[Mark]

I would start crying.

[Al]

There we go.

[Mark]

In solidarity.

[Miles]

You would cry in solidarity?

[Mark]

Yeah. During Black History Month.

[Miles]

Would you cover his mouth? Would you put your hand over his mouth?

[Mark]

Yeah, I would put him in a chokehold.

[Miles]

Dude. Would you? Yes, dude.

[Mark]

Yes. It's by history month.

[Al]

I'm not gonna let him yell that. You can't harm the disabled.

[Mark]

Not gonna harm them.

[Miles]

Dude, what are the. Also. Also the. No harming the disabled is the physically.

[Mark]

Right, okay.

[Miles]

Disabled.

[Mark]

Hold on.

[Miles]

No, like, if you're someone who's battling, like, just. You yell things. You can still fight that person.

[Al]

That's not like, oh, it's uncontrollable if

[Miles]

they're a jerk when they mean to be. I'm still not.

[Al]

I'm still not 100% black people don't believe this.

[Andrew Schultz]

For Tourette.

[Mark]

He is Tourette's.

[Miles]

Alleged. If he said anything else, like, if it was like Simu Lou up there accepting it for, like, the Five Rings movie or whatever that was. Asian accent or dark sauce, whatever. Like, there's no. Do you think that. Do you think the black community would be as enraged by it? Or would they be like, yeah, we got to find someone with Tourette's. Brothers are crazy.

[Mark]

The crew.

[Al]

We need black people with Tourette's. I. We don't get no shows or anything like that. Yeah, that would be.

[Mark]

Do they make black people Tourette's? They have that.

[Al]

I don't know. I don't think we come in Tourette's.

[Mark]

Maybe not yet. Maybe you guys are still good on.

[Al]

See, we gotta hop onto the bandwidth.

[Miles]

Can we find a black guy with Tourette's?

[Al]

That's why you know it's fake.

[Miles]

I. I saw a guy who was. Do like an Instagram. I think his name is.

[Mark]

Does animals.

[Miles]

No, no, no. Wait, why?

[Mark]

There's a black dude with autism does the animals.

[Miles]

No, not autism. He had. This guy had. Has Tourette's.

[Al]

That was low.

[Miles]

That was crazy.

[Mark]

How's that Crazy black dudes.

[Miles]

The animals.

[Al]

Like, that was. That was.

[Mark]

What is animal sound. See those?

[Miles]

Perfect. Did you just have Tourette's?

[Al]

Right?

[Mark]

Yes, I did. Yes, I did. I had Tourette's.

[Miles]

Yeah, yeah. Get out.

[Mark]

Jail free,

[Miles]

yo. That is it. Yeah.

[Mark]

No, no.

[Miles]

Where did your brain go? Why. Why did your brain jump?

[Mark]

Because I thought you were talking about a black dude. With a disability. That's very fun and awesome on the Internet. Oh, no, no, no, no. And so I was going to throw it in there. Maybe we're going to. I was going to algorithm you.

[Miles]

Do you know who has Tourette's? Yeah, this is the guy. New York City public defender, I think his name. And he was talking about it, but he was talking about it and because he has it. But then he didn't have any tics during it.

[Mark]

Oh, that can happen.

[Miles]

Also can be edited out. It's a tragic. Now you told me that there was an edit made to this and this was not the edit.

[Mark]

Well, that I think is ultimately where the blame should lie. I don't think we need to blame a disabled guy for having a tic. I also don't think we should blame these guys for being offended if they were offended. Yep. I think ultimately it falls on the BBC. Big black. Nope. The British broadcast.

[Al]

Was that another thing he yelled out during the.

[Miles]

Oh, this is a British thing?

[Mark]

Yeah, the bafta.

[Miles]

Why we care about this? I thought this was like a black American Film and Television Association. I thought it was like bet. Yeah, I thought it was bet. What did you guys think it was?

[Mark]

Nah, bro, I thought it was black

[Miles]

American Film and Television Association. And that's why I thought there was a big deal. You got a white guy, you're trying to give him an award, make him feel included, and he's yelling the N word at the black award show.

[Andrew Schultz]

You thought they had Alan coming to the BET Awards.

[Miles]

He's gay.

[Mark]

I don't know.

[Miles]

The gangs, they do be. Gays can do whatever we'll get are like whatever the blood is, we could all use. Yeah, it's like wherever Universal donor, they

[Al]

do need some open.

[Miles]

God damn Tourette's.

[Mark]

You have Tourette?

[Miles]

I don't judge them when our whole show is Tourette's. I know, I know. Basis of our show is Tourette syndrome. What you feel? You say yes.

[Mark]

Now if you were at the BAFTA Awards and you were sitting next to this guy and he yelled it.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Would you take responsibility? Would you say did you own it? It was me, guys.

[Al]

It was me.

[Miles]

Would you bail him out if you were his homie?

[Mark]

No.

[Al]

Also I'm clutching my pearls,

[Miles]

yo. That was selling it. How the did he not like sue in I'm getting your best friend Sue. I'm your best friend. Okay. Yeah. I didn't know that it was a British thing. Okay, that's.

[Al]

So now you don't give a fuck about it?

[Miles]

Well, no, it's like, did they even use that word over there? I thought that was our word. Like, don't they have their own word?

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, that's the crazy part. He's Scottish screaming it.

[Miles]

Oh, don't bring that into it.

[Mark]

Yeah, yeah.

[Miles]

Don't bring him being Scottish. Our fault, you see. Oh, it's our fault. My people are responsible.

[Mark]

Yeah, exactly. That hurt.

[Al]

Tourette's.

[Miles]

Now, just in defense of sheep shagging, if there was an animal that you were gonna do it to, I think it's undeniably the sheep. Cheeky, very cheeky. Caked up. Crazy. You've seen those videos of the wagon just whipping back and forth, right? And it's got a built in washcloth. Yeah.

[Mark]

What about.

[Al]

Damn, this is gonna be rough. What about the orangutans with the fat p.

[Miles]

Holy. Well, yo, man, Tourette's. Hey, Tourette's. I got a bong. I gotta block myself from whatever Al says from the rest of the episode. This shield is here against Al's. Tourette's.

[Mark]

No, we've seen this. Pull up. Pull up what Al said. Pull up what Alice said, which I fully disagree with. Or rather, I'll reserve judgment.

[Miles]

That's all I see. Good God, Al. Yeah. Also why you brought up the youngest sheep possible. Like, bring up some. I know. Lamb mail for the last two weeks. Nah, bro, that's. There it is.

[Al]

There it is right there.

[Miles]

Look at that mountain sheet with the bbl.

[Mark]

Yeah. Why are they brushing like that?

[Miles]

They know what they doing. Look at them. They know what they doing, bro.

[Mark]

Nah, not.

[Miles]

Wait, that's too youthful.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Why are they smacking like that? You got to let them grow.

[Al]

They got to.

[Miles]

That's lamb chops. You need. You need to let that thing grow a little bit. Joey, take this video off the screen.

[Mark]

You

[Miles]

all right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Let's see.

[Miles]

Oh, that's what. That's what you want more than anything. Ow. That's. Ow.

[Al]

That one got three titties.

[Mark]

That's a good point.

[Al]

That's one better than what I use.

[Mark]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Mark]

You gotta stand on this, bro.

[Miles]

No, we need 20 toes down. Find a wallet. Final wallet. Final wallet. That's what you. That's what you. That look like tobacco. I said a first baseman's lip. That's what you. Desiring over some nice sheep.

[Mark]

That looks like Alex's elbow, bro.

[Miles]

That's crazy. You can't let that happen. Dude, dude,

[Mark]

things make me uncomfortable.

[Miles]

Yeah, that's crazy. They got.

[Al]

They got moisturizing.

[Miles]

I'll go. Go Home tonight and just te. Come on.

[Mark]

I can't believe we brought that up. Yo, you're well for that.

[Miles]

Al, where did this even come on your screen that you've been thinking about?

[Mark]

I see where the thought process went.

[Al]

Tourette's.

[Miles]

Now you were by yourself looking at the Internet, man. Look at her tearing that thing open. Nah, got twig in there.

[Mark]

Watch an Animal Planet just.

[Miles]

Okay. Damn. Miles had to take the long way back

[Al]

N. He just rubbed out.

[Mark]

I need to walk.

[Miles]

I need to walk. E. Top left, E. Don't click it. Don't click it.

[Andrew Schultz]

All right.

[Mark]

What she screaming right there, Miles?

[Miles]

Anyway, point is.

[Mark]

Point is.

[Miles]

Point is, is that even. Even Gavin Newsom has Tourette's moments. I think we can acknowledge that as a group, as a family. Yes.

[Al]

I've been waiting. I didn't watch it because I want to have an honest reaction.

[Miles]

We can pull it up.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Miles]

So Gavin Newsom is in a little bit of trouble because he was speaking in Atlanta and he was doing a traditional politician pander tactic.

[Al]

Yeah. You guys really love this video. What you love about it so much.

[Mark]

I mean, it's pretty funny.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

This is. This is the next President, United States.

[Mark]

It's pretty funny.

[Al]

Oh, okay. Let's see. Let's see.

[Miles]

Impress upon you. I'm like you. I'm no better than you. You know, I'm a 960sat guy. And, you know, and I'm not trying to offend anyone.

[Mark]

You know, trying to act all there

[Miles]

if you got 940. But literally a 960sat guy. I cannot. You've never seen me read a speech because I cannot read a speech. Maybe the wrong business to be in. I mean, dude, now we should say he has a disability. He's dyslexic.

[Al]

Yes. I'm making fun of him.

[Miles]

He's.

[Mark]

Exactly. He's a disability for sure.

[Miles]

Okay. Which I think makes this more offensive because he's like, I have a disability, which makes me dumb. But you guys are just dumb. I'm like you guys. I'm just saying. Hey, I'm just like you because I have a mental condition that stops me from being able to read and do math. So that's why I got a 960 on my SATs. Bro.

[Mark]

It's so bad.

[Al]

I hate when politicians try to black it up. Like, even the way he's speaking and the mannerisms like, why are you doing that? I hate this.

[Miles]

Wait, did you feel that he was trying to black it up?

[Al]

I love it.

[Miles]

Oh, I didn't get that like when

[Al]

he talked to the crowd, he's like,

[Miles]

started from the very beginning. See if there's any. The very beginning of the video. Because you missed his first line. I'm not, you know, I'm not trying to impress you.

[Mark]

You.

[Miles]

I'm just trying to impress upon you. Pause.

[Mark]

Bam, bam, bam. That's kind of.

[Miles]

Yeah, bar or what? Yeah, super bar.

[Al]

I can respect what respect is doing. I was kind of, you know, he

[Mark]

did rap a little bit.

[Miles]

Listen, I'm not trying to press. I'm not trying to press you. I'm trying to press upon you.

[Al]

I said that to a one day.

[Miles]

Well, I was pressing up all that night.

[Mark]

Jesus.

[Miles]

Ow. Ow. I'm talking about fornicating, man. You got fiance, bro.

[Al]

Son. It's my past.

[Miles]

Nah, bro, we don't bring up our past on this podcast, you know.

[Al]

Yeah, we don't.

[Miles]

We never talk about that. Never talk about that before. Al, you were making a point. You don't like it when white politicians tend to black it up. Is that the term? Or urban it up.

[Al]

Perform for black people.

[Miles]

Got it.

[Al]

Like, just be yourself. We respect it more.

[Miles]

And why do you think that they think that that works?

[Al]

I honestly don't know. Maybe it does. Or maybe they think it does. I honestly don't know.

[Miles]

Now, in Newton's defense, right there again, I, I, maybe I'm not the target demo for this, but I didn't feel like he was really doing that.

[Mark]

Doing what?

[Miles]

Like trying to talk hood or like,

[Al]

keep playing just a little bit more. Like once he starts talking to the

[Miles]

crowd, I'm like, you, I'm no better than you. You know, I'm a 960 SAT guy. And, you know, and I'm not trying to offend anyone.

[Mark]

You know, trying to act all there.

[Miles]

If you got nine, four.

[Al]

I'm not trying to act all there. Like, there's also, like, it's a little.

[Mark]

There's a clip of him today with Ursher, and he's, he's emoting.

[Miles]

Okay, go. Yeah, go.

[Mark]

He's hitting the emotes big time.

[Miles]

It's also just kind of hilarious. Like, Newsom just doesn't have any clue. Like, I, I think if the idea is that he's in Atlanta, right. This is. I don't even know if the crowd is super diverse. I think people are kind of making some guesses about that. It might not just be black people. And I think maybe that's what the Internet is running with. So maybe that's not fair. But, like, the assumption let's say. Well, so let's say it is like the assumption that the SAT score is about. I think black women are like the most highly educated group in America, like, percentage wise. You know what I mean? So this idea, it's like, that's how he's connecting. It's like you're actually connecting the wrong way. You should be like, yeah, I went to college. I furthered my education like all of you guys do here. I want to show that I know this about you, but the opposite. He's like, hey, we can't read, right?

[Mark]

I mean, it's just bad. And then he's hanging with Usher, trying to.

[Miles]

All right, let's see this.

[Mark]

You tell me if I'm reading into this.

[Miles]

Look at him. That was like, with the hand wash hand.

[Mark]

Do I go out of here?

[Miles]

Come on. Can a white boy have some motion?

[Al]

Cause he was like trying to give dab. He wasn't sure if he was going.

[Miles]

So then he's like, can a white boy have some motion though?

[Al]

He don't got motion though. He don't. So just be yourself.

[Mark]

Yo, can I just say this though? Is that code switching is kind of awesome. Code switching is kind of fun. Thank you.

[Miles]

A little.

[Al]

Wait, wait.

[Miles]

Thank you. Finally. A little.

[Al]

Keep going. Finally go on that.

[Mark]

You go to Japan, okay, And all of a sudden you start talking a little Japanese. You want to be offensive, but it just kind of just seeps in a little bit.

[Miles]

I 100% would do that. It was the only way I could get the. The cab drivers to know where we were going. I would, I would say where we were going in English, in their accent. That don't work, Al.

[Al]

It does not work.

[Miles]

I swear to God, I swear to God in my Life, it works 100% of the time.

[Al]

You know why it work? Cuz you entered the address in Uber and it already knew where you were going.

[Miles]

They didn't have Uber when I was there. You go there like a guy comes in a taxi and like picks you up and takes you where it is. And if the guy at the hotel doesn't tell him, you got to tell him. And I would tell him. I would do it. Do it.

[Mark]

Don't ask him how to do it.

[Miles]

I would do every single time.

[Mark]

Don't.

[Al]

No, I. I kind of want to know.

[Miles]

You can't.

[Al]

Because Japanese is different from Chinese.

[Miles]

It's very different. It's actually the same Maad. That's what he was eating mead.

[Al]

See, it might be easy for him

[Miles]

to know if we're Going shopping, whatever it is. I would say the place and I would say it in a Japanese accent. And 100% of the time, it worked. I hated that they rewarded my racism. I didn't want to be racist. I tried to say it in English.

[Mark]

Disgusted you?

[Miles]

It disgusted me. I was repulsed by it. But I still had to get my wife to these places that she desperately wanted to go to. Arcade. Arcade. Why are you going to Arcade? Shibuya. Shibuya Crossing. Shibuya Crossing.

[Mark]

That one is a Japanese.

[Al]

Yeah, I know.

[Mark]

That one's your good one. That one's fine.

[Miles]

Shifty's leaving. We're insulting this anime people. He's like, you go to France. Yeah.

[Mark]

All of a sudden you talk with, like, a little French accent. You do some.

[Miles]

What's this?

[Mark]

What's a French dog?

[Al]

I've never seen him go.

[Mark]

You just.

[Miles]

You do a little bit. I agree with this.

[Mark]

I'm not saying it's right. It might not even be ethical.

[Miles]

It's high level communication. It's what smart people do to communicate in the world that they then, okay, that's going.

[Al]

Wait a minute. He might be on.

[Mark]

But it just is fun to code.

[Miles]

It's why I appreciate Southerners so much. Southerners refuse to code switch.

[Al]

So now you're saying the opposite of what you just.

[Miles]

Yes, that's the pod. People with people with a Southern accent. People with a Southern accent cannot change their accent. They cannot do a New York accent. They cannot do a California accent. They are locked in to that Southern draw. There's nothing they can do about it. Name one more.

[Mark]

Wallen. He busted it out.

[Al]

Oh, no, that was a Southern. That was the Southern end where he.

[Miles]

Yeah, technically, that's their word. Yeah. I feel like, if anything, he went back to his roots, you know? Have you heard a Southern guy start talking, like, northeast? No, haven't done it.

[Al]

Can't do it.

[Miles]

Northeast folks go down south. All of a sudden, we're saying y' all a little bit more.

[Mark]

You don't like saying a little Y'.

[Miles]

All. Y' all down south. Sup? Y' all all.

[Al]

I tried, but nah. Cuz being from New York is a. Yeah, of course.

[Mark]

Every place is awesome.

[Al]

I ain't trying to be like these French.

[Miles]

French.

[Mark]

I missed it.

[Miles]

I did. I did miss it.

[Andrew Schultz]

That. Very good.

[Mark]

But that's just the only thing in defensive Gavin. But it is very corny when he's doing it, because it's one thing to code switch a little. It's another thing to be like, yo, I'm Black dude, I financed a hellcat. You can't. Don't say that. That's where it's bad.

[Miles]

Hey, why, why, why? What made you come up with that

[Mark]

example was, one, it was a funny tweet that I saw. And two, it's like he's trying to commiserate on bad stereotypes. Yeah, I'm like, you guys, I can't read.

[Al]

Yeah, I know.

[Mark]

It's like, what if he was like, Yo, I'm like, you guys, I like.

[Miles]

Let's go back to that hellcat comment.

[Al]

I know, right?

[Miles]

What you mean by that?

[Mark]

Well, there's a stereotype within the black community that a lot of black rappers specifically love hellcats.

[Miles]

Is that right? Yeah. Oh, no way.

[Mark]

Yeah, exactly.

[Miles]

I didn't know that.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Al]

I think it's a Southern D thing. Yeah.

[Miles]

Yeah. What do they get? Cyber trucks, actually.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Al]

Me and Yayo got one.

[Miles]

No way. Let's go.

[Mark]

But, yeah, y' all people, you know? Yeah, y' all people. Southerners.

[Miles]

Anyway, do we forgive him? Do we forgive Gavin, our next president?

[Al]

He just got to cut it out.

[Miles]

Do you think he's winning?

[Al]

Too early to tell. I'm still thinking. AOC See what's up with John.

[Miles]

Ouf. Watch John. OIF come out of nowhere.

[Mark]

White Obama.

[Miles]

It's White Obama.

[Al]

Stop it.

[Miles]

He got. He got the look. He got the hair. He's slender.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's from the South.

[Miles]

He's from the South. He knows how to talk.

[Al]

Chicago.

[Andrew Schultz]

What?

[Miles]

Say again?

[Al]

Obama was from Chicago.

[Andrew Schultz]

We're saying John osa.

[Miles]

No, you. If you have a white guy, you got to be from the South.

[Al]

Oh.

[Miles]

Because the only way to make the. Make the Republicans feel comfy. I think it's like Talarico is a Democrat, but he knows Christianity better than any of his competitors, so he can evoke that in his messaging. Okay. It's incredibly effective. Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wasn't Clinton from the South? Of course Jimmy Carter's from the South.

[Miles]

Come on. Like, white. You need to go. Yeah, okay.

[Al]

Yeah, I know that.

[Miles]

I mean, Biden got the. The co sign from. From Barack, you know, which maybe got him over the hump, but it's. It's hard to be a. It's hard out here for whites from the north, bro. It's hard out for these northern whites, man, to win a fucking presidency. So John Austin.

[Al]

Why John Austin?

[Miles]

It's so hard. And he's talking at fc.

[Al]

So hard for Trump to do it twice, son. It's so hard.

[Miles]

These whites never win a fucking election. Can we make one white person that's won multiple elections from the north. Yo, did you know the Bushes are from Ohio?

[Mark]

Yeah. And then they kind of.

[Al]

Texas.

[Mark]

They kind of faked the Texas thing a little bit.

[Al]

Oh, really?

[Mark]

Don't.

[Miles]

Don't fall for it, Al.

[Al]

So he's just pretending to be a retard

[Mark]

type shit. Yeah.

[Miles]

Yeah, that was offensive. I hope Leslie Waxner handles you,

[Al]

Connecticut.

[Miles]

What's cow she got Gavin Newsome at.

[Al]

See, he's up.

[Mark]

Up 28%.

[Miles]

28%. Trending down. AOC trending up 10%.

[Al]

I'm telling you.

[Miles]

AOC at 7%. Watch. Watch for OS of.

[Mark]

Oh, Kamala.

[Miles]

7%.

[Mark]

If Kamala does it, runs it back.

[Miles]

Yeah, she probably got it this time. Yo. She probably got. I think. I think Kamala got it this time. What do you guys think?

[Al]

If she speaks up, I think she has a chance.

[Miles]

Really?

[Mark]

Yeah, if she speaks up because she

[Al]

was, like, held back by Biden.

[Miles]

Oh, yeah.

[Al]

Like she speaks up.

[Miles]

Yeah, I think that that was the issue.

[Al]

She was a loyal person and loyal to fault, so now she got to stand up on her own, too. Tell us what she really feels.

[Miles]

She feels. Yeah.

[Al]

And I think maybe, you know, it might be different.

[Miles]

I think that. Yeah, I think it was just Biden. I think it was just Biden hold her back. Yeah. Yeah, I think that was probably. It was just Biden holding that.

[Al]

You know, it's always a white man holders.

[Miles]

It's always the white man not funding. Turning Gaza into a parking lot. That probably has nothing to do with it. It's probably Biden or those podcast guys. Podcast guys. She should have came all. Yeah, nothing to do with. Nothing to do with what Gaza looks like at all. And having no opinions about it. That's probably. It's probably the podcast guys.

[Al]

Come on, man.

[Miles]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.

[Al]

Can't talk politics.

[Miles]

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[Miles]

Can we talk about the Olympics a little bit?

[Mark]

Yes.

[Miles]

And how quickly it just became culture war. How annoying is this?

[Al]

Yeah, I mean, isn't the Olympics always culture war?

[Miles]

No. Like, the idea with sports is that you can, like, put certain things aside. Yes, it is in terms of, like, historically, but it's. It's often like geopolitical culture war. Right. It's like America versus this country that we were either at war with or we're about to go to war with or were war with in the past.

[Al]

Oh, okay.

[Miles]

And now it feels like it's like internal struggle. Right? So.

[Al]

So tell me about that. I didn't see that. I didn't see everybody saying, oh, Canada, suck our dicks.

[Miles]

Yeah, I mean, we beat Canada in hockey Fire, you know, which is. I mean, I've been a huge hockey fan my whole life, so this is huge. This is, this is a big deal for me.

[Al]

Like, yo, you guys are going crazy in the group chat. And I was like.

[Miles]

So I jumped. I was in bed with my wife and I jumped up and I threw my hat and my wife was looking at me like, you've never watched a hockey match in your entire life. And I'm like, I know, but America one. And I know how much Canada wanted it. And we snatched that out of there. And it was. And low key. And I don't want to take anything away from the US Team, but like, it. It wasn't looking great.

[Mark]

No.

[Miles]

Like, I watched the game and.

[Al]

Oh, we was down.

[Miles]

No, we weren't down. We were up, actually. And they just had a lot of opportunities. Yeah, yeah, Canada had a lot. They played great. I mean, the Americans are dogs. I don't want to be having this take right now. I wanted to come out here and be like, yo, dog walk them. They're a bunch of. They suck. Whatever. But like, they. Canada played great. The US Played amazing.

[Mark]

The goalie played lights out.

[Miles]

Nah, the goalie was amazing. This Guy. But yeah, absolutely. And they're all at 11 last night. They're probably still there. The flight got diverted to the best city to fuck pussy on the planet. And the beauty.

[Al]

It's awesome.

[Miles]

Beautiful thing about hockey guys is, like, they're not so famous that people know what they look like. Oh, yeah. So they have the money. Money of an athlete.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Miles]

They have like the. The puck chasers or whatever the girls are.

[Mark]

And then the prestige. If you just flash the metal, you're like.

[Al]

That's what the hoes are called. Puck chasing.

[Miles]

I don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Bunnies.

[Miles]

What is it? Bunnies or whatever. They got tons of nicknames. But they also have anonymity. Yeah. You know, I mean, they could operate in the world. Okay. In a very different way. Like, they'll be at. They could go to a strip club. LeBron can't really go to a strip club. Yeah. Right.

[Al]

Got you. Okay.

[Miles]

So it's like they're the most fun. Fun athletes to party with because they can actually party.

[Al]

What's their stature? Like, are they typically tall or. They're.

[Miles]

Some of the guys are tall, but some of the guys are kind of regular height. Because.

[Mark]

Stocky.

[Miles]

But they're not like big muscular guys up here. It doesn't require big muscles like legs. Yeah. Anyway, I'm talking about my ass. I don't know about hockey, but this is just from, like, talking to some guys. And like. So the guy. Jack. Hugh Shoes is 5 11, so they kind of look like regular guys.

[Al]

Okay.

[Miles]

Right.

[Al]

And he's my height.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Is.

[Miles]

You're right.

[Al]

Yeah. Keep going. Keep going.

[Miles]

Yeah, yeah. Tourette's.

[Mark]

You with skates on.

[Andrew Schultz]

Exactly.

[Miles]

Anyway, so they're the most fun athletes, like, they can actually get after and party and. And so they're just in 11 just going berserk last night because the flight got diverted. Isn't that. What a horrible thing. There's a snowstorm. We just gotta go to Miam. It's the only place they.

[Al]

They should celebrate, though.

[Mark]

Cash Patel hooked it up.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's a snowstorm on the flight for sure.

[Miles]

How the Cash Patel thing is so annoying because it's just like, can you just let them have a victory? You know, the second you. It's so selfish. Like, the second you insert yourself in the room, it becomes culture war.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

And it's like, let America have this great victory. These guys play their asses off. It's a dream win for the men's and the women's team. If you're in the Locker room, drinking beer because you're a big hockey fan. It's this completely selfish endeavor that puts these guys under the microscope. Right. Like, instead of being somebody we could all celebrate if they're treating Cash as if he's, like, one of the guys now, everybody just goes, look at these pieces of shit. Not judging Cash Patel for being there and all the things that he's been supporting. It's just like. Just stay the fuck out of it. You just stay the fuck out of it.

[Al]

He's corny, bro. Oh, Cash.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Yeah. You're saying the guy who wanted to be the FBI director is corny? You're saying the guy who wanted to spy on people for a living is. Is not a cool guy.

[Al]

I'm really. I just don't like this. He's always.

[Mark]

He.

[Al]

He wants too much attention. Like, just be behind shit and lock up criminals.

[Miles]

Yeah. Also, I don't like them having a life.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Like, anybody that, like, has, like, little hobbies and shit, like, I don't really got enough time to be part of it. Yeah.

[Al]

Be respectful. Do that shit in private, like on Epstein's island or something like that.

[Miles]

But, like, there was an island.

[Al]

Yeah, I want to see that shit.

[Miles]

Yeah, there was an island where they could have fun elites without the judgment.

[Al]

There you go.

[Miles]

So maybe if we were a little bit more open about their partying, then they wouldn't feel the need to do that.

[Mark]

He said he wasn't over there for the Olympics. He said he had other business to handle.

[Miles]

Oh, yeah? What was that?

[Mark]

Not the Olympics. Whatever you think it is, it was not the. He had to be in Milan to go do other FBI work.

[Miles]

Oh, yeah.

[Al]

Was his girlfriend doing some country performance in Italy or some shit? You know, she's a torn act guy.

[Miles]

What would the FBI have to do in another. Their country?

[Mark]

Well, I've heard both things on this. That's what's so annoying. People are like, no, dude, the FBI has to be there in order to protect the Americans in an official capacity.

[Miles]

That's the CIA.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

FBI is America.

[Mark]

And then they're like, no, he wasn't even there for the Olympics. He was just there to.

[Miles]

My man, just say you like hockey. Just don't be in the locker room and then put these guys through it, because these guys are dealing with it now. Right. It's like.

[Al]

And the other corny thing for Trump on the phone, he's like, you guys are coming to the White House. And, you know, I gotta invite the women, too, you know, So I don't get impeached. Some shit like that. He said some bullshit about not wanting to have the women there. And I'm like, yo, they won gold, too.

[Miles]

Let me tell you something.

[Al]

I thought it was America first.

[Miles]

No, no, no. You fucking cried.

[Al]

For a sport you don't give a

[Miles]

fuck about, you're not. Let me tell you something. First of all, don't ever say I don't care about hockey. The second, if it was. If it was like the Netherlands Speed Skating Women's day team, they will be invited to the White House, I promise you.

[Al]

N. They too old.

[Mark]

Come on now.

[Al]

Come on.

[Miles]

I'm just saying maybe the hockey girls aren't Trump's style.

[Mark]

Can we play what he said? Cuz I'm trying to figure out if it was a joke. Like, he shouldn't have said it as the president, but is he being silly?

[Miles]

Yeah, he's joking around.

[Al]

Why I try and give him it out. Shouldn't say it.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's so corny.

[Mark]

I just want to hear. I haven't hurry it.

[Miles]

And we have to. I must tell you, we're going to have to bring the woman's team.

[Al]

You do know that.

[Miles]

Pause, pause. A lot of people are going to talk about how they're laughing at the joke, but there's some guys in the background going 2 for 2. I don't know if you saw that.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

So they're not like, oh, don't bring them. They're proud that US hockey went 2 for 2.

[Al]

Yeah. They tried to turn him trying to shit on the women into a positive.

[Miles]

Regardless if they try to turn it or not. Clearly the guys have been very supportive. I just hate how, like, we bring athletes into this, we put them in these positions and then we drag them through the culture war. Oh, yeah.

[Al]

I'm not mad at the athletes. I'm mad at Trump at putting them in that position.

[Miles]

And the same thing with Patel. Yeah, yeah. It's like. Because apparently the US Men's hockey has been very supportive and, like, stoked about the women's hockey gold. And like, that is the idea. We should all just come together and be like, hey, this is American X excellence. America loves American excellence. We run on American excellence. This is an incredible thing and amazing accomplishments and we love it. And unfortunately, every one of these athletes gets just jammed through this culture war microscope and it's so exhausting. It's like, just let them have their fuck one. They're kids. They're kids. They really don't know much probably about the world. They've dedicated their entire life to these obscure sports. Like, we're asking them geopolitical questions. Like, they're aware none of them go to college.

[Al]

Do you know what I mean?

[Miles]

Like, we don't know that. Yes, we do. Yeah. These are elite athletes that have been plucked since they're fucking 12 years old or maybe even younger, and then put on track to go represent either the United States or, you know, the interests of, like, teams within the United States.

[Al]

That's so funny. I look at hockey players, I'm like, oh, just a bunch of firemen that decided to skate for a weekend.

[Miles]

Like, nobody plays this shit. You know, it's just a couple dads

[Al]

getting together and shit.

[Miles]

Yeah, maybe that is, like, maybe. Why don't these teenagers know more about the world? Why don't these teenagers have stronger opinions about what's happening?

[Mark]

He shouldn't have made the joke as the president, but if Kamala, as the vice president, called the women's team, was like, by the way, we have to invite the boys, it would be a little different.

[Miles]

I feel like, of course, bars.

[Mark]

Like, it's a locker room joke, pun intended, which I think is an approval for the president to make. But it's also kind of like, guy is a. He's around.

[Al]

I get it. But the.

[Miles]

Now the girls turned it down. The list of things we could be frustrated about. This isn't even on it. Like, this isn't even on it. Yeah, yeah.

[Al]

Like, I'm. I'm not caring about this. It's just corny.

[Miles]

Yeah, sure.

[Al]

Yeah, yeah. That's all I'm saying.

[Miles]

Yeah, sure. That's.

[Al]

And now, like, you said, it turning into a culture war because now the girls are like, oh, we're not even going to the White House.

[Miles]

They're saying, no.

[Mark]

Yeah, yeah.

[Miles]

So this is his way of getting out of it, you think? This is how he designed it. Okay. No, I'm curious about the. What. What did you guys think about the. Eileen Goo. Alyssa Liu.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

What do you think about this? The. This storyline has been quite interesting.

[Mark]

Yeah. People are comparing them, which is interesting.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Al]

They're both.

[Mark]

Both half American, half Chinese.

[Miles]

Born and raised in America.

[Mark]

Born, Raised in America, both of them. And Alyssa competes for the United States in figure skating, and Eileen competes in freestyle skiing for China.

[Miles]

And she chose, I think, last Olympics to decide to compete for China.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Mark]

I think it was, like, 2019 before the 2022 Olympics.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Mark]

And she chose up to go compete for China, and people were like, oh, well, she did it for. For money. So it seems like The. The sports bureau in China, like, paid her a few mil. Like, it's like five or six mil

[Miles]

or something like that.

[Mark]

Plus, like, all the endorsements in China.

[Miles]

It's. It's really the endorsements and, like, opening up to that. That market. I've looked for, like, confirmation that she got directly paid for them, paid by them, by China, and I didn't really see anything. It's very plausible that she did, but, like, I think she's one of the highest paid athletes in the world, and it's because of the endorsements.

[Al]

Get the fucking.

[Andrew Schultz]

Everywhere in China.

[Miles]

Get.

[Al]

Get the fucking.

[Miles]

So you say, get the bag.

[Al]

Get the bag. Get the bag.

[Andrew Schultz]

For.

[Al]

Especially for Olympians, like, they don't have that long and that many opportunities to compete.

[Miles]

She makes 28 million a year.

[Al]

Yeah. She might not have made that if she played for usa.

[Miles]

The question I have for you, she's

[Al]

the hottest looking Chinese, bro.

[Mark]

She is.

[Miles]

She's like, made in a lab. Like, we were joking about this last time. She's like, Ivan Drago, like, she is perfect. She's stunningly beautiful. She's like a genius. She went to Stanford. She had like an 1850s, her SATs or something. Okay. She studied. And she didn't study, like, communications or something. Yeah, she studied like, hey, is there any.

[Mark]

Exactly.

[Miles]

Well, you're working in it. But like. But like, she studied, like, some, like, physics or something. Like an actual.

[Al]

But that's like a seven. Walking down soho.

[Mark]

She studied quantum physics.

[Miles]

Quantum physics.

[Mark]

And then now is focusing on international relations. Makes sense.

[Miles]

Anyway, so. Yeah, she's like a supermodel. She's an amazing athlete. The best in her field, maybe like the best in history in her discipline and. But she was born in America, raised in America, trained in America, like, all the things that would lead her to supporting America. Like, my feeling is like, whatever country fed you, you gotta represent them. And if you don't make that team, then you could go to another one. But, like, I don't think it should be okay for, like, one country to literally raise you up from the ground up, and then when it's time to compete, you go somewhere else.

[Al]

What about soccer? Don't they do that a lot?

[Miles]

I. I don't believe that should be allowed. Like, I think America took on a bunch of, like, half American, half German players.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Because I think they were, like, born on American Navy bases or, like, military bases or whatever in Germany. But I'm like, well, if you ate schnitzel and you're a German, like, you got to play for them. Like, whatever country feeds you and trains you, you got to play over there.

[Mark]

But it happens a lot. There's, like, American dudes that are good at snowboarding, but they're not the best best. And then the Olympics rolls around. They're like, oh, I can go make the team in Italy.

[Miles]

I'm saying, if you can't make the team from your country of origin, then you could go for your other country.

[Mark]

So we're only mad at her because she's good.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Al]

So if she wasn't good, you wouldn't care.

[Miles]

Yeah. Go to China and play. I don't care 100%. Absolutely.

[Mark]

That's fair.

[Andrew Schultz]

If you're not good enough to make the American team and you go somewhere else, great.

[Miles]

But we train you.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Like, a lot of money was spent raising these. These and creating the opportunities for these.

[Al]

Her money, her family's money is not.

[Miles]

Yeah, but when she's, like, a junior, I'm sure there's, like, junior Olympic committees and that kind of stuff that are, like, trying to bring up these athletes and make sure that they'll be successful.

[Al]

Now you care about where your tax dollars go.

[Miles]

We do now. Caring about that every year.

[Al]

But come on, she gets to compete

[Miles]

two, maybe three times.

[Al]

Times. Get the bag. You work your whole life. You still competing. You're still the best in the world. Whether or not, whatever team you play for, you're still doing the same thing. I'm proven. I'm the best at this thing.

[Miles]

All right, so. So when. So when Judas took the bag to. Are you cool with that? Who? Judas took the bag.

[Al]

I don't know this story.

[Mark]

Yeah, it's about.

[Miles]

Can you break down the story, Mark? You might be able to share more details.

[Mark]

And I. Basically, Judas betrays Jesus Christ and tells the Roman authorities where he is.

[Miles]

He took the bag.

[Al]

That's to get somebody killed. That's way different.

[Miles]

How many opportunities is Judas gonna have to get the bag, Son? This is a hobby.

[Al]

She just skiing around some ice.

[Miles]

Skiing is life. He loves hockey life. Okay. He's obsessed. 100%. I'm telling you, man.

[Al]

And we still didn't. We didn't we win the whole of.

[Miles]

No, Norway did, but.

[Al]

So we beat China.

[Mark]

True.

[Al]

So her.

[Mark]

But she did kind of sell out.

[Miles]

She sold out. Why can't we be critical of talking about selling out?

[Al]

Get the out of.

[Miles]

So here's the question.

[Al]

Go back to your country.

[Mark]

I don't know if she shouldn't sell. I don't know if it's unethical but she did sell out.

[Miles]

Would she go if it wasn't for the bag? If we offered the same bag, would she go?

[Al]

You don't know.

[Mark]

If we offer $1 more. Yes, she was.

[Miles]

Would go to America. She would say here.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

So then it's just the bag.

[Al]

I'm mad at that.

[Miles]

But you're okay with that?

[Al]

Yeah, I'm cool with that.

[Mark]

But I think everyone would kind of do that.

[Miles]

This.

[Al]

Come on, son.

[Mark]

If the Scottish government.

[Miles]

This guy goes to Australia, says, yo,

[Mark]

Schultz, your mom's Scottish.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Mark]

You can become a Scottish citizen really easily.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Mark]

You're tech. You are ethnically Scottish.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Mark]

You get to compete. Compete in the paddle World Championships. Representing Scotland.

[Miles]

Am I the best in America? Sure. Not a chance.

[Mark]

And you're gonna get paid $57 million.

[Miles]

Nope. Any chance to represent America. Any chance to represent America over another country, I'm taking. There's not a single thing that you could convince me to do otherwise. 100% if you weren't so Cap.

[Al]

I wish somebody could offer him some shit. Switch up so fast.

[Miles]

I'm upset I didn't join the army, bro. I'm upset I didn't join the army, bro. I'm upset. It's one of the lines that you're going to tell. One of the greatest regrets in my life. I didn't join the army, man. It's one of the greatest events of my life. I wish I did. Bang. Bang. I ain't get to bang out on, bro. I don't even have a chance. I'm too old. My feet are too flat. Bang down on these ass. I'm sick of. Tired of being sick and tired.

[Al]

That is not too late. You could be ice right now.

[Miles]

They raised the age. They taking retorts.

[Mark]

They taking flat 50,000.

[Miles]

Taking. Taking everything in this.

[Al]

You can be ice right now.

[Miles]

That's different.

[Al]

47 days of training.

[Miles]

That's different. That's different.

[Mark]

What war would you have been in? Afghanistan. You would have been sent to Afghanistan.

[Miles]

I've been. I would probably went to all of them. What year do you guys. I would have went to all of them. I would. I would have been in any war available.

[Mark]

He graduated 2001 or 2002 or some shit, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

He would have been the first boots on the ground.

[Al]

03 in Fallujah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Fallujah.

[Miles]

Miss your boy. He would have been enriched for Strepo. I'm in there. I'm in there. I'm diffusing bombs. I'm a sniper. My. My hands shake too much for the sniper. But I probably find a way to be good out there. Now the bomb is you. The red wire. Got the red one.

[Mark]

I don't think they would let you serve food, bro. I'm not trying to serve food. They would let you do the salt shaker.

[Miles]

That's it. I could do the.

[Mark]

That's the only thing.

[Miles]

I would do, the salt shaker. I do whatever my country needs of me. What an honor to represent your country. You're a Judas.

[Al]

He's tell jokes to all the army guys.

[Miles]

I would keep my morale. I would keep my morale.

[Mark]

That's. We need that.

[Miles]

You need a morale. I'd be the guy with the. The flute at the front of the army. Yeah. What is it? The horn man. I'd be horn man.

[Mark]

The horn.

[Miles]

I be horn man. You need a horn man. So everybody knows which way we're going.

[Mark]

Exactly.

[Miles]

What I'm saying is. What I'm saying is I would have been in there, guys. The greatest honor. Do you guys not feel ashamed that you didn't get to represent your country?

[Al]

No, not at all.

[Miles]

Really?

[Al]

Not at all.

[Miles]

Oh, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

What branch would you go into?

[Miles]

What branch of horn? No, no, what branch? I mean, my dad was in the orchestra. I'd probably go orchestra. I do orchestra. No, my dad was the army, so I do army.

[Al]

No, I don't.

[Mark]

I don't. I would do. I would do service in America.

[Al]

Yeah, that'd be fine.

[Miles]

Coast guard.

[Mark]

Coast guard could be cool.

[Al]

Which conflict during your lifetime that you would have been proud to fight China.

[Mark]

He never went there.

[Miles]

I'd be the first. Let me add him. Hey, Let me add him. Let me add him. Let me add him. Hey. Hey, Petraeus. Hey, Petraeus. Listen, y' all got the browns covered over there? Let's let me go over there and handle that.

[Mark]

But you're afraid of parachute.

[Miles]

I'm not parachuting.

[Mark]

How do you get in?

[Miles]

I'd be on the other side of that great wall telling him, I dare y'. All step over that. Hey, I dare y' all step. If you step over, see what the happen. This is Mongolia, property of the United States of America. Okay? I'm the king of Mongolia now. That's what I would do. It's the greatest honor in the world to represent your country. I literally googled. I was like, is there like an old people Olympics? I'm like, I might try this shit just so I could represent the United States of America.

[Al]

You should deadass. If they bring paddle to it.

[Miles]

If they got paddle and they have an Old Olympics. I'm in there.

[Al]

Cause all the best players aren't from here.

[Miles]

I would cheat. I just want to let you guys know. I would cheat for America.

[Al]

How?

[Miles]

Oh, in whatever way possible. The National Senior Games, often called the Senior Olympics, is a major biennial multi sport event. Multi sport event. The U.S. athletes in age 50 and older. Okay, so I got eight years of training promoting active aging and camaraderie. That's what I'm doing.

[Mark]

You could do para. Mark.

[Miles]

Mark, you're being rude right now. You're being rude right now.

[Mark]

I'm saying you said you would cheat.

[Miles]

Yo, look, low key.

[Mark]

You said you would cheat.

[Miles]

Low key. I don't think, like, there is a way to make the Olympics. Like, if you were committed, you could chop some shit off. Like, if you want to. If you want to be. If you want to represent your country,

[Mark]

bro, you could do both. You could join the military and then pair it back to back.

[Miles]

Wait a minute. Think about that.

[Mark]

All your life's regrets.

[Miles]

Dude, I could do it.

[Mark]

You could serve our nation and represent America.

[Miles]

I wonder if in the same year we change the age of the army ship now that it's drone war warfare. Oh, lower it. No, raise it up. Because if. If I'm at home, 15 year olds

[Al]

love video, but the kids, it's the nicest ones on a video game.

[Miles]

Yeah, but I. I could. I could. I could do that. Come on. You don't think I could do that? Come on now. Look at that. Oh, Russia. You don't think I could do that?

[Mark]

You put on Twitch.

[Miles]

I could definitely do that. I might start playing Call of Duty right now just to train. Yeah, White ops. That's what they call. So they call this Call of Duty. Yes, exactly.

[Al]

During this month.

[Mark]

Yeah, white off.

[Miles]

No, but for real, you guys don't feel that patriotism coursing through your veins? You don't want to represent your country?

[Mark]

Not for foreign intervention, but maybe something here.

[Miles]

Well, that's why sports is great.

[Mark]

Yeah, that would be cool. It would be cool to represent America, of course, or represent New York, but.

[Al]

But that's part of her heritage. That is fine.

[Miles]

I would love to represent New York within America and then America outside of America. I mean, that's a dream.

[Al]

I would do New York outside of America.

[Miles]

Point guard of the Knicks. Imagine you're point guard of the New York Knicks. But you. But you're also from here and you take your team to a championship, like, oh, to give that joy to that many people.

[Mark]

And you served.

[Miles]

And I served four years 100%.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Oh, God, guys. Are you kidding me?

[Mark]

You're kind of Forrest Gump. You're describing Forrest Gumpri.

[Miles]

That's my hero. That's my hero. That's my hero. Didn't he die of aids? That's my hero. Jenny did. He was so nice. He evaded it. He was plugging a girl with AIDS and didn't get it.

[Mark]

He goes, how amazing would my life be, bro, if I served in the military, came back greatest sport and became a greatest.

[Miles]

Greatest of all time. Help my black friend become wealthy.

[Al]

I open a strip.

[Mark]

I'm Lieutenant Dan.

[Miles]

No, for real, dude. That is a dream. Are you kidding me? What an honor to represent your country. The greatest country in the world.

[Al]

Yo, goo. Get your buddy up.

[Miles]

Ironically described Forrest Gump. How is Forest Gump not the greatest human being that's ever existed? Bro, the Guy got a 960 on his SAT, man. He can't read just like you, okay? Oh, my God. Look at Mark. Oh, that's what I'm saying, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

What would his lines be? And mom always said life was like

[Miles]

a bacon, egg, and cheese. Yeah. Life is like a chopped cheese.

[Mark]

Yeah. The bodega is like a box of chocolates.

[Miles]

100%. It's a lot of Jenny.

[Andrew Schultz]

You need a lot of Dominican woman in this situation.

[Miles]

Yo, out of New York. I can't believe that you guys don't have patriotism coursing through your veins.

[Andrew Schultz]

Dude, you would have met jfk. That's fire.

[Miles]

I can't believe it. You let the Communists win, huh? So you hate America now? You fucking hate America, dude. That's what it is.

[Al]

She loves both of her sides.

[Mark]

There's China, though, because she'll talk shit about America, and then they ask you about China. She's like, no, I love it here. It's great. It doesn't talk shit about what's wrong

[Miles]

about China, all right?

[Mark]

Doesn't talk about the Chinese government at all, to my knowledge. Maybe I'm wrong. Sorry, Eileen. But Also seems like.

[Miles]

Also, she won't say whether or not she renounced her US Citizenship. And China doesn't allow dual citizenship. So America allows. Allows it, but China doesn't. So they won't exactly say what happened. So in order to compete for a country, you need to be a citizen. So it's very likely that she. China, either made an exception for her or she renounced her U.S. citizenship.

[Al]

Isn't that fire. If China made an exception for. That's pretty dope. You get in China to do what you Want. That's kind of hard. That's. That's some American shit right there.

[Miles]

While she holds a Chinese passport to compete, she has never publicly confirmed she renounced her U.S. citizenship. Citizenship and ambiguity noted because China does not officially allow dual citizenship. Exactly.

[Al]

Maybe she's a spy.

[Miles]

So what do you mean maybe?

[Al]

No. For us.

[Miles]

Oh, Eileen.

[Al]

Yeah. You see, Eileen, you trying to blow her shit.

[Miles]

Eileen. My bad. Yeah, Eileen. My bad. This is all part of our design. We send one of our most brilliant students. Yes. Into China, infiltrate all their systems, do the knowledge. Eileen, Eileen, Eileen. Shout out to you. Yeah, listen, I don't even know if we should include this in the podcast. Include it. I don't even know if we should include it because I don't want them to know. Yeah. Oh, my God. Good job, Eileen.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

All right, but now can we talk about Alyssa Liu?

[Mark]

Yeah. From the. From the Bay.

[Miles]

From the Bay.

[Mark]

This is really SF versus the Bay. That's really what this is about.

[Miles]

Yo. Talk that.

[Mark]

If you think about it, because we're all making it. China versus America. It is SF tech. Silicon Valley versus Oakland. Yeah. Ar.

[Miles]

Right. Her story is crazy. Like, her dad was a. Like a political dissident. Yes.

[Mark]

Needless to say, I don't know exactly what he did.

[Miles]

I think he was, like, involved in, like, the planning of the Tiananmen Square.

[Mark]

On which side?

[Miles]

The good guys. Okay. All right. He wasn't. Yeah, he wasn't on. Well, who's the good guys to you? You go first. Communist. And then. So he dips out to America, has five kids by surrogate.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Al]

Is he the dude in front of the. The tank?

[Miles]

No, no, no, no. That was it. No, no, no, no.

[Mark]

Might be Tank man dude.

[Al]

Oh, no.

[Miles]

Because I think Tank man's part of the cement now. Didn't they run his ass over?

[Mark]

I'm pretty sure he lived.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, he got pulled away. They never heard anything about him.

[Al]

And he moved to America.

[Miles]

God. It could be.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Mark]

And I think he specifically wanted surrogate with a white woman for the max genetic diversity.

[Miles]

This guy's crazy.

[Mark]

I don't know if that's.

[Miles]

Can you confirm that that's crazy?

[Mark]

I'm pretty sure it's.

[Al]

Oh, he knew.

[Mark]

I don't think he got an egg donor.

[Miles]

There's nothing wrong with that, Al. There's nothing wrong with creating. Creating a family without having sex with your wife to do it. There's nothing wrong with letting doctors take you and your wife's reproductive parts and put the baby together without you.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Mark]

You want to rephrase that.

[Miles]

No, he wouldn't.

[Mark]

Anyway, yeah, he got a white donor.

[Miles]

Okay.

[Al]

An egg.

[Mark]

White. White.

[Miles]

And.

[Mark]

And he said he wanted to ensure a diverse gene pool. And then married another Chinese woman, raised their kids in the Bay Area and yeah. Made a.

[Miles]

A champion tiger dad.

[Al]

He got a white egg, but then married a Chinese lady.

[Miles]

Wow.

[Mark]

Exactly.

[Miles]

Wild boy.

[Mark]

And then I think divorced her. Divorced her. And then like, she's still kind of like the mom of the kids. Like, I. I don't know the exact situation.

[Miles]

Wild cowboy.

[Mark]

But yeah. And then she becomes like a champion. She's like the greatest ever at like 16 years old.

[Al]

Wins.

[Miles]

He's world total tiger dad. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay.

[Miles]

Okay. Goes to the last Olympics. I think she comes in like six or something like that. But she was like, incredible. And then maybe didn't do as well as maybe she thought or America would have hoped for her.

[Mark]

But at 16, she won like Worlds or something. She won like an amazing, like, American honor as a figure skater.

[Al]

And then did he choose the gender?

[Mark]

That's an interesting question.

[Al]

Maybe that's why he moved out. Because he wanted to a girl.

[Miles]

You're doing the knowledge.

[Al]

Doing the knowledge.

[Mark]

Come on, bro. He's a feminist.

[Miles]

At 18, she says, you know what? This isn't making me happy. I'm going to find myself.

[Al]

And she's like the best, right? She's like, at that.

[Miles]

She's our hope. She's our hope in America.

[Mark]

She's a great half white hope.

[Miles]

She's a great half white hope.

[Al]

Yeah. Claiming.

[Mark]

No, you do this.

[Miles]

Don't. Don't say white.

[Mark]

Don't say white.

[Al]

Yeah, I did it first.

[Miles]

We were claiming her, y'.

[Mark]

All.

[Al]

You tried to claim her. That is all Asian.

[Miles]

I don't give a. She has the speed in which dub. And Tanya told us that Jack Hughes, the guy who scored the game winning goal for the U.S. in the Hockey finals, the speed in which that they told us that he was Jewish was remarkable.

[Al]

That was the first thing I found out.

[Miles]

Before the shot had entered the goal, there was already 40 Instagram accounts. Like, first bat mitzvah. Bar mitzvah. Kids represent America. I love how they waited until we won for that information. Like it was never at the beginning of the Olympics. Like, we're really proud to say, okay, but she goes and takes two years off and she's like, I'm just going to find myself. Takes two years off.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is one.

[Miles]

This is a sport where, like, you cannot take days off, right? Like, it's insane competition. You also have a small window it's not like 40 year old women are winning figure skin, right? Like with two years to go until this Olympics, I think. Was it two years ago in this Olympics? I think so or something like that. She basically goes, did she compete in the Olympics?

[Al]

Last one?

[Miles]

She did a little last one. She takes two years off. And then two years before this, she goes, you know what? I think I found my love again for figure skating. Maybe I want to try it again. She goes, I'm going to choose my coaches. My dad's not going to be part of it. He's too tiger dad. I'm going to do it my way. I'm going to have fun with it and whatever happens, happens. And they were like literally asking her questions. She's like, are you nervous about what's going on? She's like, no, I feel great. This is awesome. Even being here is amazing and I'm going to do my best. She is in an interesting way, way, when you compare her with or juxtapose her with Eileen Goo, who's like so media trained, so poised, like clearly brilliant, stunning, beautiful, very calculated, so calculated. Like spy, spy maybe type. But she's so free. Like this girl is like pure Americana in the most beautiful way. Like, I'm going to take control of my life. I'm going to do what I want with my life. I'm going to seek out the things that I'm interested in doing. And if this thing ends up being something that, that gives me joy, I'm gonna go and chase after it and try to be the best that I ever can be. And it's like she's just like this. There's this gravitational pull when you see figures like that. And like there's this love and support, like all of America is behind this girl. And they've tried to culture war her. She's like, oh, she believes in this. She's woke. But even that doesn't work. You even see like conservatives go, ah, we don't care what she does. It's awesome that she just embodies this beautiful American spirit. And I, I don't know, I think she might be more successful, make more money, do all the things that Eileen Goo probably would have ended up doing here in America. But I don't think Eileen Goo will ever have like the love or appreciation in America that, that Alyssa will. Yeah, simply. Yeah, yeah, she, she shows up. But what I'm saying is like Alyssa is an example of like there is a version where you can embrace this free spirit, this thing that only America Alone allows and be loved simply because you're great at this thing and that this thing doesn't define you completely.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

You know, and it's. I think it's something that maybe is unique to us in that way. Like I, I just watching the world like gravitate to her and this like beautiful free spirit and also like the energy she was providing the people she was competing with. Like there's these other girls that like this, this like little 17 year old Japanese girl got bronze and she didn't even know like, like if she could be a emotional and like she has to like be like, hey, be happy. This is awesome. Like is. Ah. Yeah. She's just, she's really special. So I'm curious to see what happens.

[Mark]

Brian.

[Andrew Schultz]

What? No, no, I'm allergic to

[Miles]

girl.

[Andrew Schultz]

I have horrible allergies.

[Mark]

Sorry.

[Miles]

Anyway, so it was, it was very cool to see.

[Mark]

Yeah, I'm.

[Al]

Yeah, that's a beautiful story. I didn't know any of this. This is dope.

[Mark]

And then she skated at the very end.

[Miles]

I know.

[Al]

She won the goal, right?

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

She comes now.

[Al]

Did she do any like tricks that no one else can do or they just gave her the award because it's a nice story.

[Miles]

One of the few people that can do like a triple triple and then do another three spins right in a row. But she did this cool thing at the end of her, at the end of her thing. Like I think she knows that she had an awesome run. I don't even know if she knows she's won at this point. Right. Because it's up to the judges. But she skates right up to the camera and then she goes. That's what I'm talking about. Like it's like Bay Area energy through and through.

[Mark]

Yeah, her hair is cool.

[Miles]

Yeah, let's go. How you not doing that?

[Al]

This. Send her ass over there.

[Miles]

That's the energy. That's the energy.

[Mark]

We got to get her paid. That's really what we got to do.

[Miles]

She got it.

[Mark]

The billionaires of America to come together and be like, yo, we're going to double whatever Eileen goo.

[Miles]

Whatever Eileen gets. She got to get double love that.

[Al]

If she don't, we don't love America.

[Mark]

Facts.

[Al]

Oo if China's going to bred up our people more than we bred up our people. We don't love America, bro.

[Miles]

That is a good point. Like why I'm shocked that like American companies or something didn't come together and be like, hey, what the is going on here? Like why don't we get some more sponsorship opportunities for this girl. This girl's going to win gold. She's prolific. Like, why are we going to let. It's. It's a stain on American dominance when we have athletes leaving here to compete in other countries.

[Mark]

Yeah. But also the payment to represent America. It should just be the joy, you know,

[Miles]

you're right. America, I don't need any money, man. You got a sniper position, let me know. Put me on a roof.

[Mark]

Put him on a drone.

[Miles]

He

[Andrew Schultz]

wearing a diaper, shitting on a roof. I could only imagine.

[Miles]

Dude.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Do you think they diaper up?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, they have to be out there for days.

[Miles]

Yeah, but the diaper doesn't really do anything.

[Al]

Yeah, you just sitting with it.

[Miles]

That's worse. You don't have kids. No. The second they in the diaper, you got to change the diaper. You don't get to just leave it in there for days. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, they take off the one diaper, but they're up there for days, like.

[Al]

Yeah, but why would they wear a diaper? You could just drop pants and just.

[Andrew Schultz]

You can't get up. You're laying there for days, pissing it. Roll that off to the side, hopefully.

[Al]

I think Miles is trying to.

[Miles]

Miles committed to something now he's trying to justify it.

[Mark]

Yeah, that's how are you invoking a fact check?

[Al]

I think. Yeah, let's fact check that.

[Mark]

Miles or Alex got a fact check? Let's see.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, do the knowledge.

[Mark]

Do the knowledge.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do the knowledge. Bro.

[Al]

Son.

[Mark]

Hotep

[Miles]

the way you said it. Can you call black people that? Is that pretend pejorative?

[Mark]

No, it's just. I'm gonna find out comments later. Miles, one of the videos. Could you tell me what to fact check?

[Al]

Where the.

[Miles]

Is Joey? Somewhere else.

[Mark]

Move on, bro.

[Miles]

All right, Joey, better relax.

[Al]

That robot gonna replace you, bro. Doing tricks on it.

[Miles]

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[Mark]

Yeah. Prince Andrew got arrested.

[Miles]

For what?

[Mark]

For it's connected to Epstein, but not in the way you think.

[Miles]

So it's not for all those girls that accused him of. Of.

[Mark]

No, no, no. I think that was an out of court settlement. But this one was that the royal family just was like, yeah, let's Google Prince Andrew's name and see what comes up. And then they realized that when he was the trade envoy, he was giving these secret documents to Epstein and basically telling Epstein just like about his travel whereabouts. And they saw this as improper use of the office.

[Miles]

Now how could that be advantageous to Epstein?

[Mark]

Yeah, I don't know if it was done in like an official capacity. To basically give away trade secrets. Or if it's literally, hey, I'm going to be in Singapore this weekend. Do you have any women I can meet? And by saying that he's in Singapore, he's giving away confidential information. So basically they're kind of getting him on like a technicality to get him arrested based off of what's in the files.

[Miles]

So basically there's not enough in the files to lock him up forever. Or if you lock him up forever for what's in the files, it looks way worse on the royal family.

[Al]

You know, the family's really done with this guy.

[Mark]

Oh, he's like controversial for like.

[Al]

Cause that's something easy. You could, could fight that. Like, yeah, they.

[Miles]

Oh, I guess the argument could be like that if he's part of the trade envoy, that he would be privy to certain information, you know, financial information, for example, like the government's about to make a big investment in some like military firm or whatever. And if you gave that to a hedge fund, if you gave that to a guy like Epstein, he could make a big bet on that before it happens, which it seems like a lot of that was happening with these figures.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

You know, which is the, the myth of meritocracy, which is. This is one of my. One of the, the positive things that has been exposed through the EPIME files is that all these people that are making all this money, you know, in investing in companies like, as if they're using like this great due diligence to choose the company. It's like, no, it's not. You just know the deal that's going to happen before it happens. It's Pelosi to type. But this is. We knew that this is what very wealthy and successful people were doing. It's nice that it's exposed because then it lets us go, oh yeah, you're not smarter than any of us. You just have the answers to the test. You know, so there is something like now how do we get them to stop doing that? I don't know. But we also don't have to let them finger wag us at all about, you got to work hard and you got. I worked for 60 hours a week in a trading desk to build it.

[Mark]

You did not.

[Miles]

Of that you called your rich friend. He said that the British government is investing in this company. You put a lot of money in it. Or the British government is pulling money out of this company. You shorted it. You guys aren't smarter. You have the answers.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Mark]

And there's a lot of Countries that are like that, where meritocracy is not really prioritized at all. It's classist and hierarchical. That's just the way it is.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Mark]

In America, the issue is that we tout ourselves as being meritocratic. The cream rises to the top. If you work hard, you can be successful. And that's probably more true here than most. Most places. But with that said, it's not as meritocratic as a lot of people kind of believe.

[Miles]

Any business that can sustain nepotism is cheating. Any business that can sustain any business where, like, your kids can take it over and it still works. You're cheating because you can't guarantee the level of ambition, intelligence of your kids. You need some sort of competitive advantage. You might be the smartest guy, you might be the Steve Jobs. But Steve Jobs kid might be a. But if the company manages to continue with them at the helm, you're cheating in some way.

[Al]

What if you were grooming this kid for this position? I know bad jokes are weird, but, like, at a very young age. So it's like they just have so much knowledge to do this position more than the average person.

[Miles]

Have you hung out with rich people's kids?

[Al]

No, I haven't.

[Miles]

They're all drug addicts and idiots. Like, the majority of them are drug addicts and idiots. Right. But they got the answers to the test, you know, or the connections are there where they can have certain access to certain things.

[Al]

Yeah, but look at Baron. He's killing it in the prediction.

[Miles]

Yeah. Stuff he does with that computer. What the hell he does with that computer? How does he know these things?

[Mark]

Doing tricks him with that computer. I heard an interesting thing. Did I text you this? I can't remember if I did, but it was this guy, Alan Dubaton. He's like an author, he's a YouTube guy, philosopher. He did a pod with Chris Williamson where he's talking about the difference between. In America, you have this story where meritocracy wins, but it's not exactly the case in the way it's represented. And as a result, it creates a victim culture and like a blame culture, specifically in America, because if there's this story, like, hey, if you succeed, that's because you worked hard and you're successful. And if you work hard, you can succeed, then the inverse is also true where if you fail and you're a failure, it's because you didn't work hard and you're actually not smart and you're a loser. And then that creates this paradigm where people Are like, no, I've failed. I worked really hard, and I still failed. And so then they go, who did this to me? And then there's finger pointing and blaming, which maybe it's helpful, maybe it's not, but it comes from that place where they were sold this bill of goods about meritocracy that didn't actually hold up.

[Miles]

Yeah, it's interesting. It's almost like if you knew the system was set up to support the. The Nepo babies or the class or the cast of people that are at the top, maybe you wouldn't have that much resentment for it, or the resentment or their success wouldn't prove you to be someone who doesn't work hard.

[Mark]

Yeah. Hierarchical societies, I think, are more. More like, yeah, this is what it is.

[Miles]

Yeah. Yeah. They get all that and they get wealthy, and that's the game. And they're not gaslighting you, whereas we kind of gaslight a little bit. Yeah. Why aren't you working hard enough, man? Yeah, why aren't you grinding more, dude?

[Mark]

Feel like Blackfield probably knew this.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Mark]

People like us, like, I knew it too. Like, I. We're not so different. You know what I mean? I knew about this. I can't.

[Miles]

White people are just finding out the system is against them too. I know they are pissed off.

[Al]

That's the thing that's most interesting to

[Miles]

see, and I think. I think the right thing to do for black people right now is to be like, keep going. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Al]

We're not fighting back.

[Miles]

You're almost like, oh, you're getting it now. You're like, you're black too. You just didn't realize it.

[Al]

It's being hard for you guys to buy houses. It's hard for a lot of things. It's like, oh, school's expensive.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

This is how. This is what got us out of Vietnam. Yeah. Second they started drafting white kids, white people were like, what the Is happening over there?

[Al]

Yeah. I am glad to see it. I am noticing, and I'm just. Come on, guys. We're gonna come together.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Al]

Some heads need to roll.

[Mark]

Whoa, hell, come on. I mean, you gotta chill with that, dude.

[Al]

Legally.

[Mark]

Legally.

[Miles]

I mean, they do what happens. Who.

[Mark]

Who.

[Miles]

What is enough for people to go, okay, we've gotten some sort of justice.

[Al]

Luigi.

[Miles]

Luigi.

[Al]

What Majority.

[Miles]

He gets off.

[Al]

I just think he just needs to go on a. Oh, Jesus.

[Miles]

Jesus. Tourette's.

[Andrew Schultz]

Tourette.

[Al]

I joke. I kid, guys. I. I get. No, I don't want that.

[Miles]

No, you don't want that.

[Mark]

That's actually smart. You said the exact opposite. That's actually really.

[Miles]

No. Who needs to get arrested? Who needs to go down where people go. Okay. All right.

[Mark]

Well, we were talking about this a little yesterday. I think it's twofold where I think you need some key arrests of like, the people that we, the American public strongly feels is implicated, so long as that they're actually guilty. They got arrested, there's an actual trial, all the discovery's done. We figure out what was actually happening. Whether the United States intelligence is implicated or not. All the co conspirators are arrested.

[Miles]

Do we have names for that?

[Mark]

I mean, people throw out Wexner lot. But again, he hasn't been charged with any crime.

[Al]

I don't want to. No. But they named the co conspiracy.

[Mark]

They. They named some of them, like Rona Massey.

[Al]

Named all of them. Oh, I thought they named the ones that were. Yeah. That were like, let off during the first initial thing in 2008. So it's like take down these place to look. Yeah.

[Mark]

And then so long as that they're proven guilty.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Mark]

In like a legitimate court, that's great. But then on top of that, I do think you need to raise the economic conditions and that people can't feel so pinched economically. They can't feel like their. Their future is so hopeless. And that's probably. I mean, that's a way bigger issue, like housing prices and healthcare and all that, I think needs to come into the fray in order for people to feel, like, really satisfied. Because I do think a lot of

[Miles]

this is emblematic of that frustration.

[Mark]

It's rightly placed anger, but it is, I think, just a small portion of the overall economic issue that everyone's feeling.

[Miles]

Yeah. It's like there's nothing, no distraction. You can't be distracted when you're starving. Now, I'm not saying the people in America are starving, but the feeling like there's the starvation of hope and you're going to point to the people who have stuff. And then when it looks like all these people who have stuff are implicated in this horrendous scheme, now you have a perfect justification to hate them. You already hated them. Because you're broke. You can't afford a house, you can't afford college, and you can't afford health care, and you're like, these guys are involved in some way. I know. I don't know why. But them. And then you have this story that breaks where whether or not everybody's involved, we don't know. But enough people are involved. And it looks like they're taking care of each other and protecting each other, and it's just like, nah, nah, nah, nah. Yes, exactly.

[Al]

Like, we're recording this Tuesday. Tonight is the State of the Union. And I'm actually curious to see which direction Trump goes with this. Like, I wonder if he's just going to gaslight and be like, oh, stock market's up. Everything's good. I wonder. Because that hasn't been working.

[Miles]

Working for him.

[Al]

Like, it's really hasn't been working. His approval rating is at the lowest it's ever been.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Al]

So it's like, I wonder if he's maybe just has a real talk with the American people. I doubt it, but, yeah, I doubt it. Let's see what Cal she says about it.

[Miles]

Yeah. I don't. I don't even know.

[Al]

I'm telling. People are getting upset with this gaslighting.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Yeah. But I think, like, I bet you I would love to look this up, but I bet you after the French Revolution, there were some people that were like, all right, we killed Marionette. We chomped her head off, and then they were still poor and starving. They were like, well, it didn't solve all my problems. You know, Like, I think that there's. You need twofold. You need to actually hold the powerful people accountable.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Mark]

And then create a system where the poorest people in the country are not feeling like they're taken advantage of.

[Miles]

But that is a thing where, like. And we talked about this with Mangione, it's like, the people who have the money and power, they can only squeeze the American people or whatever country. It is so much before revolution.

[Al]

Revolution.

[Miles]

And, like, you know, the French Revolution is a great example of that. It's like, well, this is what happens when you squeeze them.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

And then the next person in charge goes, okay, guys, they're getting to the point of this level of squeezing where our heads get started getting chopped off. We have to do something about that.

[Mark]

They had a term for that, the noble oblige.

[Miles]

What does that mean?

[Mark]

That's like the obligation of the nobles. They have to do some stuff to make everyone happy.

[Miles]

Also, the, The, The. The. The framing of that. This is our obligation. No, no, this keeps you alive. This keeps you alive because people will show up at your house with pitchforks if you take too much. You can only squeeze people too much.

[Al]

The problem is they still do a great job of keeping us fighting against each other 100%. So it's like they keep squeezing, but they keep finding a Way. Hey, yell at your neighbor and ignore what we're doing up here. And I don't know if that's ever gonna change.

[Mark]

Exactly.

[Miles]

No. Cause we like yelling.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

You make a lot of money on yout too by yelling.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

And just infighting non stop, you know, and that's, that's so I don't know

[Al]

if that's what will be a revolution.

[Mark]

Yeah. And also we're placated enough because we like to consume and we just keep on buying. And we're like, all right, how bad can life be when you got like a hundred dollar flat screen? You know what I mean?

[Al]

100 flat screen.

[Miles]

No, they just make the TVs cheaper so you feel good.

[Al]

Oh, got it, got it.

[Mark]

And you got a Roku and you're watching TV and you're like, all right,

[Miles]

got a million different channels, dude.

[Mark]

Yeah. You don't need a. Come on. You're going to protest when Night of the Seven Kings was on season finale.

[Al]

Remember when they were season finale trash?

[Miles]

Yeah, it was trash. But remember when they were. When they were about to crack down on sharing the passwords?

[Al]

Oh, yeah.

[Miles]

And then all the nobles came together and they're like, they're going to kill us if we stop them from doing this. Just let them share the fucking passwords so we can live and make billions of dollars. Like, there's a perfect example because I think that password show went away real quick. Yeah, it did, right? They're like, we're going to, we're going to stop you guys from sharing passwords so we can make another 11 bucks per person.

[Mark]

No, no, no, no.

[Miles]

And then people like, all right, who's the CEOs? What's.

[Mark]

Yeah, so yeah, it's. That part's frustrating.

[Miles]

What'd you guys think about that Wexner deposition?

[Mark]

Oh, there's a couple funny clips. Like, it's interesting seeing powerful people in positions where they're getting up. Like, that's awesome. Like, seeing like these attorneys, like just like rip them is awesome. And seeing his attorney try to like course correct. So I mean, this is the part that was. Went viral is basically telling him like, hey, shut the up.

[Miles]

Question. Five words.

[Mark]

Okay. I mean, cuz he's just answering. They're like, so what was your relationship with Gleam Max? He's like, oh, yeah, I knew it pretty well. You know, we did. And like he's just like talking. And the lawyer's like, dude, shut the. What are you doing?

[Miles]

Yeah. Is there no curiosity in that lawyer?

[Al]

What do you mean?

[Miles]

Like, if I Was Wexner's lawyer. I would be sitting there going, I just say it all. I'm going now.

[Al]

He knows all the.

[Miles]

You think he's aware of.

[Al]

That's why he's like, yo, shutting client up.

[Andrew Schultz]

Privilege.

[Miles]

He could tell. He knows all the stuff. So there are people that know all the stuff that aren't even involved.

[Andrew Schultz]

There are people that know, like, the murder cases, and they just have to die with it. And then a lot of. Not a lot.

[Miles]

They have to. They don't have to.

[Al]

So many people in the FBI right now that have gone through all of those files unredacted.

[Miles]

Well, we have a chair, and it's right here. And if any of them would love to be a true American patriot. If you want a gold medal for being an American patriot, you can sit down. We're on this podcast and tell us all about it.

[Al]

I hope they'll be a whistleblower about this.

[Miles]

I hope they're not.

[Al]

Yeah, like, how they will die immediately.

[Miles]

There's nobody who wants a gossip. There's nobody who wants to just be at the bar with the boys watching the game and like, yo, like, this is crazy.

[Al]

Epstein was. And then he hung himself with his own hands.

[Miles]

He wanted to get to gossiping. You saw. You saw Nancy. Nancy Mace tweeted today. Oh, yeah, yeah, Nancy Mace. Congresswoman said, we are not sure that Epstein killed himself.

[Al]

See, like that. That's the type of shit that's like, stop doing that.

[Miles]

Why? Agree to cooperate and kill yourself.

[Mark]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[Miles]

Because the idea was he was cooperating. And I think that's been confirmed. He'd already begun that process, so it makes sense that they killed him once he agrees to cooperate.

[Mark]

Well, they say, hey, if you. The distinction I'm making is like, they gave him a window where they could.

[Miles]

Could kill himself.

[Mark]

Or, hey, we're going to come in and murder you. Or, hey, we're going to come in and torture you. Or you can just kill yourself right now and have a good.

[Al]

You're out.

[Mark]

But is it easier to convince him to do it than to send in a whole team, middle of the night, turn off all the cameras and the whole prison? That's the other thing I was wondering. Couldn't you look at the camera at the front of the prison? What you mean there's cameras all throughout the prison? The one in front of his cell died? That's the one that went out.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Mark]

So could we look at the camera from the hallway over.

[Miles]

Why are we trying to solve it like the camera went out. Yeah.

[Mark]

Obviously if this was in a movie,

[Miles]

nobody would believe it.

[Mark]

And the guards fell.

[Andrew Schultz]

Two guards asleep.

[Mark]

And they falsified their rounds records.

[Al]

And guys, every camera just stops recording for a minute. You don't know that.

[Miles]

Yeah, I've re cameraed, but like, you know what I'm saying, If this was in a movie, people would be like, guys, what are the chances that all this happens? Like, it wouldn't be believable. So once the camera goes out, once the guards are asleep, I could maybe believe the guards are asleep.

[Al]

Sleep, Yep.

[Mark]

How are we not investigating them? How is there not a timeline going minute by minute through their last three months, going through every email, every phone call they ever did.

[Miles]

How are they not on this podcast? Like, how are we not sitting down?

[Al]

We could probably get one of the guards.

[Miles]

You probably know them. I probably do. The. Find out. Find out who the guards are. Find out how much they pay for their Malibu homes. Because there's 100%. They got a nice chunk of change to just have no clue what the fuck happened. If they were actually sleeping, it is kind of of funny. Like, imagine they woke up and they're like, wait, what? What's going on? And they're like, wait, what? Epstein killed himself? Nobody's going to believe me. Like, right? Like whether. Whether they slept or not, nobody will ever believe them again. Yeah. And if they are guys that are like. Cos these are not guys that like, are built to keep secrets forever. Like, you work with these guys, right?

[Mark]

You have.

[Miles]

It's not like, Okay, a guy that has been groomed to be in the CIA since they're 18 years old. Yeah, maybe he's a secret keeper.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

A CEO can't wait to talk some shit. Yeah, like people know.

[Al]

Yeah, we got to check if he's paid. If he's not paid, then every other CEO knows what happened.

[Miles]

That's if he's paid. They know. Oh, yeah, because they're your friends. You're still playing in a fucking basketball league with them. Like, it's not like.

[Al]

Yeah, but they would get jealous that they didn't get any money, so then they would snitch so that you. If you, if you took money, you can't tell anybody, son.

[Miles]

We got to know somebody that knows them and 100% they said something. That's why them being asleep is like the most realistic. And maybe they drugged him or some like, I don't know. But like, there's no way those two guys are keeping secrets. There's no way you're going to go back to being a CEO.

[Mark]

I mean, what if they. What if they extort them? They go, hey, here's money to keep your mouth shut. And if you ever tell someone about this.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Mark]

These people are gone. We know where you live. We know where. You're kidding.

[Miles]

Let me tell you something. New Yorkers can't keep a secret. We can't keep information this valuable. We're just not capable of doing it once we know some shit. We're telling everybody. We're telling everybody.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

It's not even a question.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah.

[Miles]

It's in our soul.

[Al]

We don't. We don't make for good, like intelligence agents.

[Miles]

No, no, that's a good point. That's it. No, we're telling everybody. I'm shocked they haven't been on every single. I'm shocked they haven't had a Vlad interview. The fact that I sat down with Vlad is crazy. Vlad, Vlad, Vlad. You've been cooking. That's the interview. It's crazy to me that.

[Al]

That is crazy.

[Miles]

We don't even know their names.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I think we do.

[Miles]

What are their names?

[Andrew Schultz]

Looks like it's Tova Noel to Michael Thomas.

[Al]

Tova.

[Mark]

Yeah, hold on a second, bruh. That's not real, bruh. Yeah, yeah.

[Miles]

I'm the two guys.

[Al]

I ain't never to check Tova down there.

[Miles]

I'm going tell you that Tova Noel

[Andrew Schultz]

I never seen fell asleep at their desk for about three hours and then they later falsified their related records.

[Al]

Telling you.

[Mark]

Who's Tova Noel?

[Al]

I'm telling you, I seen a lot of cos. I ain't never seen a To down there, guys.

[Miles]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark]

Hold on.

[Miles]

To Noel is All right, all right.

[Al]

Nah, he's like a monster.

[Miles]

Is it the girl or the guys? Tova Noel.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think the woman would be Tova. The guy is Michael Thomas.

[Al]

Oh, that's different.

[Mark]

But.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, Al's on a different.

[Miles]

On a different.

[Al]

Different women names. Women names is crazy. We know for something. Yeah, I thought we did.

[Miles]

I thought we solved it right there.

[Al]

I thought we did. She a little darker than I thought.

[Mark]

That's to.

[Miles]

That's to.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Hover.

[Mark]

J.

[Miles]

Hover. Yeah, I see it. Okay. All right. Yeah. We got to figure out we got something. I thought we were almost there. Like nobody else.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think they went to trial.

[Miles]

Like, I think they got charged and

[Andrew Schultz]

then for what they got charged.

[Miles]

You telling me she hasn't told everybody at the fucking Jamaican spot? You're telling me that when she goes and get her a Little oxtail, some fucking rice and peas. She's not saying low key. Hey, that didn't kill himself. We let them go in. We said they were sleeping. Like, come on.

[Al]

That's an honest woman right there. She takes some money and shuts up. She's honest.

[Mark]

It might be enough to make him shush. How much does it have to be? A few mil.

[Miles]

But if they get a few mil, people know.

[Al]

A few mil. 50,000.

[Miles]

If they get enough, people know. If they buy one thing, people are to know.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

You think they just drugged him?

[Mark]

Possible.

[Miles]

Or do you think that they got the two sleepiest cos and they. And they put him in there that night like n. These guys are out 100%. We have a two hour window where a nuclear bomb could go off and these ain't waking up.

[Al]

And it's crazy cuz he was on like suicide watch, right?

[Mark]

No, I think he taken off.

[Al]

Oh, took him off.

[Miles]

That's why they say like it's. Yeah, they killed his ass. You're saying they gave him a Thanksgiving dinner.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, the tryptophan.

[Mark]

What do they call that again?

[Miles]

What? The itis.

[Al]

Oh, yeah, the itis. You can't say that.

[Mark]

I didn't say it.

[Miles]

You just said it.

[Mark]

No, I didn't.

[Al]

You just said it.

[Mark]

I didn't say it.

[Al]

No. Miles bleeped it.

[Miles]

I heard you say it.

[Mark]

Yeah, bro, that's so funny.

[Miles]

I wonder.

[Mark]

Yeah, we got to get them on.

[Miles]

We definitely got to sit down with them. We got to. That's. That's a great. That's a great conversation.

[Al]

Come on. Tova.

[Miles]

Tova, we need you. Girl. Pull up and Michael Thomas, we need you.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do you know, because he died, his charges were dismissed.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's crazy.

[Miles]

Really?

[Al]

Oh, yeah.

[Miles]

He never got convicted.

[Al]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Mark]

Wow.

[Andrew Schultz]

Just. Just crazy. The end of that sentence. Just crazy.

[Al]

Dude, we. We don't know he's dead.

[Miles]

True.

[Andrew Schultz]

In late. In late 2021, feds dropped charges against the two Bureau of Prison guards responsible for monitoring Epstein on the night of his death.

[Mark]

Tova, Mike, need to come on. What? You're just like them New Yorker from New York.

[Andrew Schultz]

They perform community.

[Al]

Taking naps.

[Mark]

You take a lot of naps, yo.

[Al]

Taking naps.

[Miles]

I'm not putting a nap by anybody. I'm not putting a nap by anybody. Especially if you're working in overnight. What time does they kill him?

[Andrew Schultz]

They found him at 6:30 the next morning. So overnight.

[Mark]

So yeah, 2:00am, 3:00am I'm not putting

[Miles]

a nap by anybody. I'm not going to do that?

[Al]

Yeah. Come on.

[Miles]

That's something I'm not going to do.

[Mark]

Yeah. You're just like him, bro. You love a nap.

[Miles]

I like a nap. That being said, I feel like you would hear it. I feel like you would hear somebody killing themselves. You think it'd be complete silence?

[Mark]

Yeah, I mean, he's not fighting it.

[Miles]

Yeah, well, eventually your body fights it. It's like you ever hold your breath underwater and then.

[Mark]

Yeah, because you don't want to die.

[Miles]

How close is that? You think. You think that you could go underwater? You think you could drown yourself in a bathtub?

[Mark]

No, I mean I don't want to die.

[Miles]

If you wanted to, you think you could drown yourself.

[Mark]

People do this with auto erotic asphyxiation.

[Miles]

No, that's to nut. They want a nut.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Yeah, but then they get too close and then they. Their switch doesn't take them off. And then they die.

[Miles]

No, that's. That doesn't happen. How do they die? A massage agent comes in and takes him out. That's how he dies. How else do you think happen? No, nothing.

[Al]

Imagine if he was just trying to get a nut off, right?

[Miles]

With both of them. No, like maybe he just, you know,

[Al]

he's in jail too. He hasn't had no little kids around in a while.

[Miles]

Yeah,

[Al]

Just try to get one off.

[Miles]

Women. I forgot what thought you're gonna say.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, you didn't have any like women around. He's been around.

[Al]

Nah, no little kids. He's jerking.

[Miles]

Little egg dick.

[Mark]

That's a good point.

[Al]

He got an egg shaped dick. That's what they say. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Who else has an egg shaped dip?

[Miles]

Yeah, you also. You got a little egg on you.

[Mark]

No,

[Miles]

like a bat. You know,

[Al]

like a bat.

[Andrew Schultz]

Have you guys seen the timeline for the Epstein?

[Al]

No.

[Mark]

What is it?

[Andrew Schultz]

They say they find him shortly after 6.30am Someone is heard screaming breathe, Epstein, breathe. And an alarm is rung at 6:33.

[Mark]

They're saying his last name.

[Andrew Schultz]

They're saying his last name. Apparently at 6:33am he's at the hospital and pronounced dead by 6:39. So in six. They got him to the hospital in six minutes and he was. Was dead. H. That seems short. In nine minutes they find him CPR in a hospital, pronounced dead.

[Mark]

And didn't they send him out the the wrong exit with some boxes, Remember?

[Miles]

Well, somebody said that they tricked the crowd or whatever. Yeah.

[Mark]

In nine minutes.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Also consequently failed to photograph Epstein's body as it was found.

[Miles]

Guys, we don't have have to. We know they Kill them. Like, there's no question in my mind.

[Al]

I don't know. He's dead. I'm not convinced.

[Miles]

He's dead or he's not dead. Yeah, it's one of those two.

[Mark]

Yeah, I think it's 1% he's not dead. And that's gone up to like 5%, maybe 10.

[Al]

Oh, you're only there. Yeah, I thought you'd be higher.

[Mark]

No, I just think they could take him out. Like, they're just like, yeah, who cares? There should get ruin.

[Miles]

Yeah. Like, what value is he alive? That's why I don't understand why I

[Al]

thought he had kill switches.

[Miles]

I fig. I figured they found all the kill switches, and that's why they were able to. To take him out, because if they didn't, we would have had the kill switches.

[Al]

Or he's not dead.

[Miles]

And there we are keeping him alive just because he has the kill switches.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Miles]

So why wouldn't they put him into a black box room and start chipping away at his toes until he said where the kill switches were?

[Al]

Maybe that's happening, right?

[Miles]

And we're still waiting.

[Al]

I don't know.

[Mark]

He's got 10 toes.

[Miles]

It's a lot of toast. A lot of toast. A lot of toast. No, it takes time. Or give him that truth serum.

[Mark]

Oh, yeah, that's a good point.

[Al]

Somebody was slipping stuff to Wall Street Journal.

[Miles]

Well, wait, what happened with the Wall Street Journal?

[Al]

You know, like the. The birthday book. Like, they got that before the government put that out. He would have his own birthday book.

[Miles]

Birthday book, perfect example. Trump got a signed note to Epstein, a boy birthday book they asked Trump about. He's like, I don't even believe in birthdays.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Do you know what I mean? It's just like. It's like.

[Al]

So he says, I don't draw some shit like that.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

It's like, not only is that not real, it's not mine, and I've never owned a pen. Yeah.

[Mark]

He said he didn't write it.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Mark]

And then they asked. They asked Wexner about the birthday book. He goes, yeah, I wrote that. So really, Wexner kind of sold out Trump.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Mark]

And then it was one of the funny things. They're like, all right, so was Epson your friend? He was like, he's never my friend. This guy used me. And he goes, oh, well, when you sign the birthday book, what is this drawing here? And he's like, it's boobs. And they're like, okay. And they're like, and why. Why did you Sign it. Your friend Leslie, he goes, I don't know why I said that. He was never my friend.

[Al]

It's like, bro, these.

[Mark]

How did you not anticipate this coming up? You called him your friend a bunch of times.

[Al]

Sign a lawyer. It's like, yo, shut the fuck up.

[Mark]

Ain't nothing.

[Al]

You saw like some people were taking that as like, yo, that's his handler. And he's like, yo, if you don't shut the up, I'm really gonna kill you.

[Mark]

No, that's.

[Al]

There's some people. Whore. No, it's way more fun to look at it.

[Mark]

The lawyer is your handler. Low key.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Mark]

When you're in the courtroom, that is your handler.

[Al]

But like on some real like, yo, I'mma kill you if you say the wrong thing after that.

[Mark]

No, I don't think that attorney is going to murder Leslie the waxer.

[Miles]

But somebody will. Yeah, y. Someone will.

[Al]

If he starts talking too much.

[Miles]

Yeah, yeah, someone will. I mean, that's just.

[Mark]

Yeah, it's crazy. So. And then apparently the. The dude in Norway tried to kill himself.

[Miles]

Oh yeah, the ex prime minister.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Of Norway, who is connected to Epstein in the files through like emails and stuff.

[Al]

He tried to kill himself.

[Miles]

Yeah. This is like a day ago or something.

[Mark]

And those guards didn't fall asleep. They found him.

[Al]

Oh, he's locked up.

[Miles]

Oh, shit. Yeah.

[Mark]

Can you fact check this?

[Al]

This is.

[Mark]

This all happened today. I don't know this super well.

[Al]

Oh, wow. I didn't hear about this one. That's crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Something from NPR came out this morning at like 3am about Trump files being pulled from the EP, things mentioning Trump being pulled from the Epstein list also.

[Miles]

Oh yeah, tons.

[Andrew Schultz]

54 pages.

[Al]

Allegedly. This girl, 13 year old girl who claimed. Claims that she raped her, that he raped her. The FBI interviewed her like four times. And then miraculously, three of the interviews have disappeared. And the one that's left, she doesn't mention Trump.

[Andrew Schultz]

And there's an interview with the mother also.

[Miles]

Was there a conclusion based on the FBI interviewing her and then which FBI interviewed her? Is it the current FBI or is the one from past.

[Al]

No, this happened. This happened. I think it happened in 86 or so or 89 maybe.

[Miles]

Yeah. And the conclusion, I just want to make sure. And the conclusion after those three interviews was that she was credible or she was not.

[Al]

We don't know. But to interview her four times, that's usually a crazy. It's like straight.

[Miles]

What I would say is that like if this is in the 80s, they don't go a Fuck about Donald Trump.

[Al]

He's still kind of making.

[Miles]

Again, I'm not trying to defend him. What I'm trying to say is it's. He's not in a position of power where the FBI and the real power brokers in the 80s are like, oh, we got to protect. Protect him. Unless there's something we don't know.

[Al]

Yes.

[Miles]

Unless he's aware of this even from way back in the day, or unless

[Al]

Epstein's like, yo, that's my guy. Don't come after him right now. I'm working him.

[Miles]

That's a good point. That's interesting.

[Mark]

H also, apparently there was a report that came out that the US government helped Epstein travel after his conviction. So in 2008, he gets convicted and that affects his ability to travel. And then apparently there's certain emails that he has governmental access in order to travel. And people once again are like, he. This, like, is just more intelligence proof that, like, the government is, like, facilitating his foreign travel, like, giving him clearances. And this is just some random article that I saw. I mean, I think it was. It was credible.

[Miles]

But it is really interesting.

[Al]

There's nothing there, guys.

[Miles]

No, no, of course it's a hoax. There's nothing there but assertions.

[Andrew Schultz]

What was it?

[Mark]

Inferences.

[Miles]

It's just inferences. But it is really interesting, though, that, like, they would release all of this and redact one. It makes you go, what the is redacted? Because there's already so much that is incriminating enough. The bare minimum the inference you can make is that he has incredible leverage and power that is unjustified by anything in the emails. In other words, like, the power is there.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Why are these banks using him as an intermediary? Why are wealthy people using him as an intermediary? What type of leverage does he have? But there's no justification in the emails as to why he has this leverage or power. And clearly, if we understood that, it kind of solves everything.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Now it doesn't solve why he likes children. He's a fool creep. And why all these other people might be into it as well. But the leverage and power, I think, is the thing that solves. I think the Internet and obviously us are just like, holy. All these incredibly powerful people are into, like, having sex with children. I also think they're probably above age prostitutes that they're banging as well. I don't, I don't subscribe to this idea that they're all like, no, we want them to be this specific age. Yeah, I'm sure There's some creeps that are into it, but like, if he's throwing parties on an island, you know, I don't know if, if Bill Gates is rattling off emails, they have to be 16 years old.

[Al]

And yeah, I don't think that.

[Miles]

But again, this is what is the most salacious, the most abhorrent, the most, you know, just diabolical. But I do think you solve the reason for his leverage and then everything starts to make sense.

[Mark]

Yep.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

But nobody and no one can thwart that. I've, I've seen certain people like, you know, try to make arguments. They're like, oh, well, the pedophile ring is overblown and there's nothing really there to substant in D D D, meaning this global blackmail pedophile. I've seen people make these arguments, which is like, you're brave right now to be the guy defending Jeffrey Epstein, but none of those people can justify his power leverage. I haven't heard anybody.

[Mark]

Yeah. And the fact that you got a former prime minister of a massive powerful country.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Killing himself or trying to kill himself to get away from whatever is going to come up in these files.

[Al]

Oof.

[Mark]

To me, it's like they're all guilty.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Like they did some fucking crazy shit, any of this. Like, because even I would try to

[Miles]

be the shame of fucking hookers. That's the thing. I don't think that that's enough. Right.

[Mark]

And then even like the insider trading, state secrets, I'm like, probably not. Like, it has to be some real fucked up shit to make you want to off yourself or to make Trump want to release UFO files. I'm like, oh, they got something. They got something. The second you're like, yo, guys, aliens are real. It's like, oh, they did something bad, dude. Trump hates aliens. And he's like, dude, got the aliens. I'm like, come on, dude, that's. It's a bad look. Bad, bad situation.

[Miles]

Yeah, he, he tried to kill himself. Yeah. I think we got to interview him on the.

[Al]

W. He could be a potential kitty. I don't want to talk to him.

[Miles]

That's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point.

[Mark]

That's a good ass point. You're protecting us.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Al]

You guys gotta be careful, you platform guys.

[Miles]

Good point. That's a good point. I just can't, I just can't imagine, I just can't imagine Europeans care that much about banging hookers.

[Al]

They care way more than we apparently, apparently care because they're punishing their.

[Miles]

No meaning. Like yeah, it must be something else because simply like cheating on your wife or whatever, isn't that like a European way of life? Like, isn't that. Again, that's just kind of. I don't see how my wife does. She moved here for a reason. I just see us taking it societally much more serious than they do, even if that's a stereotype. But like the French, you know, the Spanish, the Italian Italians, like, I don't see them maybe in the Scandinavian countries a little different, but like, I don't see them like thinking that having like a, a little side piece is like that antithetical to their culture. Whereas, like in America, it's like taboo. You shouldn't do that. Not saying we don't, but it's. It's enough. It's a taboo. This is bad. So it's like if they're killing themselves over like extramarital affairs, that's. It's hard for me to believe.

[Al]

Guy, he.

[Miles]

Some kids, some went down.

[Al]

Yeah. Allegedly.

[Andrew Schultz]

They have a whole city for prostitution.

[Miles]

Yeah. It's like a normalized thing there. Yeah. They're deviant people. Like, they're not like God fearing good people.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Miles]

It's like that's why the, that's why we left. Puritans had to come here.

[Mark]

That's why you wouldn't represent them in the Olympics for $50 million.

[Miles]

How much? Never. No. 100%? No. No, definitely not. Okay, guys, listen, let's talk about the Mexico thing. Yes. On Patreon. We'll do it on Patreon. We're going to patreon right now. Patreon.com Flagrant. We'll see you guys over there. Peace.