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What's up, everybody? Welcome to flagrant. We've been abandoned. Let's just call it what it is, okay? We got no outcomes.
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Hunger Games.
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We got no fucking mark. Is Al and I holding it down Corona style? Okay, we're throwing it back to you. Alex and Shifty seem to be under the impression that the K pop Demon Hunters is an English American made movie that just happens to be about a K pop band and not a Korean made made movie.
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No, it's a Korean made movie. But it's made in English.
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No, no, they dub it in English.
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No, it's made in English. All the words of the animated are English words.
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You don't think that that's originally a Korean song?
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No. That it won't slap the same? Come on. I have the answer, but I'm going
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let y' all find out.
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That don't slap the same. Does dad slap the same?
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Al, we don't have our Asian representative or our cauch Asian representative here for you to be making these jokes, okay? Al, you need to keep your racism. You even got the beef and broccoli on. Is that why you put that Timberland over there? I'm about to take chopsticks to my pizza. I take back what I said. If Al has the beef and broccoli on, he's allowed to do gas.
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There you go.
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Okay. I'm just trying to keep the wheels on the bus. I'm trying to keep the wheels on the bus. Miles. I'll move back in the frame. Don't you Worry. Get some AC going on in here.
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Yes, we need some AC. Okay. It is St. Patty's Day, yo.
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Happy St. Patrick's Day.
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Yes, thank you. Shout out to the Irish.
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I'm Irish.
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No, you're not.
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I am. I'm a quarter Irish.
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You. You just want to be something, bro.
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Brother. Are you Puerto Rican?
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Yes, but I'm real Puerto Rican.
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How?
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Because my mom was born there.
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We don't know that. There's no proof of that. What proof do you have of that? What proof? Call your mom right now. See if she was actually born in a hospital with no electricity.
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No, no, no.
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There's no way that she was born. There's no fucking way.
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You know she was born in a bathtub. That's how they do it.
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That is
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Trump. Threw him a fucking paper towel and shit.
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Al.
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Cleaned up the blood.
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Al, you gonna. It's gonna be just one of us. Next episode.
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Keep it up. It's gonna be me, baby. Yeah, you tuned into bet.
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We're down to two. We're down to two.
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Listen, is this a setup? Like, I feel like I'm gonna open this and it's gonna explode.
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No, no, that. Did that get dropped. But it's. It's Guinness. There's no bubbles in it.
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Miles, you wanna open this?
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You fucked it.
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I think you white people have, like, a better. Can you do beer better?
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Listen, can we. Can we all just have a moment. Can we have a moment right now to just acknowledge it's hard out there for white boys with motion? Can we just have a moment to
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acknowledge that's what you're going with?
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Can we just acknowledge it?
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Are you a white boy with motion?
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It's also hard with Puerto Ricans opening a fucking channel.
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I told you white people do it better.
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Yeah, boy.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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That made me feel uncomfortable. God damn, that really made me feel uncomfortable.
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Are we being silly or not?
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No, don't do that. I'll just. The Tourette's guy. That's what the guy said at the bafta.
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There we go. Got it.
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Good strong hands, baby. Yeah. All right. Okay.
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So.
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Yeah. Do you think it's. I mean, Jack Harlow and Timothy going through it right now.
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Tell me how hard it is for white boys when.
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I need you to lean back here.
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Right. I know.
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Let me just. Oh, my bad.
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Maybe we could just go to that wide. The wide is really not even that wide today.
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No, it's not.
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You know, you really just need one camera for this.
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Yeah.
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Okay. We're doing Weekend Update. That's what Al and I are doing. Okay. It's. No, no, listen. I'm not here to complain about the journey of the white male.
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Nice.
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Al, there's nobody else for me to talk to. I need you paying attention.
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Oh, yeah.
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The whole time.
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No, this is gonna be uncomfortable. I gotta, like, lock eyes with you. This is like a date right now. Move over a little bit.
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I am a little closer to you.
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Yeah, right.
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Like, what the fuck is that? I am occupying space. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I am. I don't care.
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Come on.
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What the fuck?
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Is this, the west bank or something? Get outta here.
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Al, do we have to get political immediately? What's your favorite city in the West Bank?
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Don't know anything.
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There we go. Put your Ukraine flag back on, bro.
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I stand with the people.
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I stand with what the Internet says. That's what we do. Cheers.
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Cheers.
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Okay. Free everyone except white boys with motion.
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All right, tell me about this.
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You have no take on this as a black dude.
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I mean, did you listen to.
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First of all, did you listen to Jack's album?
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No.
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Okay, so that makes both of us. So we're gonna give you strong opinions on this.
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We heard, like, 15 seconds of it in the elevator with Duff.
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Yes.
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And that didn't sound too great.
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But that's not fair. You would never judge a Jay z album on 15 seconds. You've never judged anybody's album on 15.
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But he's not singing. So R and B is singing, and he was just, like, doing the little whisper talking stuff. So it's like that already is like, oh, if the whole album's like that, don't call it an R B album.
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So you want to see vocals for an R B?
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Yeah.
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Is there anybody that doesn't have vocals, but they're just so musically inclined? You're like, fine, you get to do it.
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Kanye 808 in heartbreak. But he used autotune to make him
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to make up for the fact that he couldn't sing. Yeah, okay. Okay.
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So if he just said this is an alternative album. Got it.
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You know that there's no way that he's. No matter what he said, he was gonna get cooked for this.
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I think. No, I don't think so. If he just said that. Yo, I'm. I'm making an alternative album. Yeah, but now it's not a black.
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Oh, so you think the criticism comes from the fact that it doesn't sound like R and B. But he called it that. What did he ever say it was an R and B album?
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I'm pretty sure that's the whole rollout that he's putting out an R and B album.
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I don't know. Do you want to play this clip? Play this clip.
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I'm saying you didn't retreat into a wider genre.
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In fact, you arguably went into Deeper into black music. Deeper into. Is that. That's where. That's what most people have seen from the clip. Okay. That's what most people have seen from the interview. And all the opinions about this roll up, roll out come from that one right here. Right. There's an extended version of the conversation where the two interviewers, they're basically being politically correct, and they're, like, being white guys about asking him this question, which is like, yo, you see a lot of white artists, they retreat to white music. Once they get on. You didn't do that. And they basically want to say, you got black. They want to say that, but they're not saying it. So he says it, and then he goes on and you can play more of the clip. Was that conscious Was that a little twist on the typical move that white
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rappers make, which is to retreat back
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into traditionally white sounds?
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It certainly made what I already wanted
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to do even more appealing. Absolutely. Because you like pushing that boundary, that line. I think I love black music. I love the sound of black. Who among us. Pause, pause. That's such a funny moment. Because he's like. Cuz you like pushing the boundary. He's like, nah, bro, I just like black music. And then they interview some music. He's like, yeah, yeah, me too.
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Yeah, I know.
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Yeah. And I think that this is handled perfectly. Like he's saying, hey, I love this music. I. This is what I wanted to make. This is what's inspiring me. He says I got blacker because that's what the interview is trying to say. He's saying it almost sarcastically, but he
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shouldn't have let the either let the fucking interviewer say it if he's not going to say it. You don't need to take.
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Everybody stop podcasting, bro. Everybody got to stop podcasting. I know. It's got a podcast. Turn it off. Everybody got to stop podcast because there's nothing you could do.
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It's not just white people need to stop podcasting, son.
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It's not just white people who's black getting in trouble. Jack Harlow just got in trouble off of a podcast, bro.
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He's black.
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He's blacker than ever, dude. Come on. Alright, so now this is interesting. Is it just black? Is it just white people get in trouble podcasting?
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Nah. You got Jack, you got Chalamet. Black guys get on, say wild shit and podcasts. Them shits blow up. You got Shannon. Shannon Sharp.
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Shannon. Shannon sends him up. Like everybody goes on. Shannon gets into some. But that.
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But it's like blows up in a good way. Cat Williams goes over there. It's the biggest podcast ever. His tour is selling out ever. Like it's a good thing for them.
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Interesting. So you think it's just white people get in trouble?
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Yeah. Y' all crap in the battle ass niggas, bro.
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That's it. Is it white people tearing down white people?
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Yes. Because you're not with Jack Harlow. Your barrel is getting smaller because minorities are growing.
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But the Jack hall response is not from white people.
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It's a little bit of both. But black people, because he said, I'm getting blacker. Like, I don't like the sound of that. That was a little cringy. I get what he's saying and if you watch the whole clip, I agree with everything he's Saying. But if you stop it at right there, he's like, oh, yeah, I'm getting blacker. And it's like, we have a history of all this fucking. What's it called? The. Who's the guy? The Culture Vultures. Like, we've had a history of that. So it's like, it looks that way.
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Yeah. But you can look at him and be like, oh, he's being sarcastic.
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I don't think he's being sarcastic.
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He's using language that's sarcastic.
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Yes, yes. If you watch the full clip. If you just stop it at I'm getting blacker sounds.
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Sounds crazy. But R and B sounds crazy. Isn't any blacker than rap. Like, they're both black music forms. You're not more black if you do R and B than rap.
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I would say R&B's blacker. Oh, Jesus Christ.
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R and B is blacker. I need someone else on the podcast. I need rhythm and blues, but I
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don't got rhythm or blues.
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We got blues Blues Brothers.
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But you don't have. Rhythm and blues is a black art form.
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You do have rhythm. White people invented dancing, bro.
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You invented, like, skipping and shit like that. Like, yeah, dances.
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White invented this.
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Your dances are 1, 2, 3, 4. Rhythm is just like, hey, we feel it.
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Can you show me. Can you show me some rhythm now? You feel it?
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N. I've been hanging around too many whites, man. I'm losing rhythm.
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I think Jack Har might come more
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rhythm than me right now.
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Feel that for a second.
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But I get why the Internet's upset. They shouldn't be if you watch the full clip. Because he got put in a position and he said the thing you're supposed to say. He's like, hey, I like the music. And so I'm just leaning into the music that I like. But at the same time, you know, it's a little bit easier for white people to switch genres than it is for black people.
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Easier in terms of.
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So white guy like Kim Post can go to white music country, and no one's giving him shit. We're going.
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I think white people can go from black to white. Very easy.
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Very easy. Yes.
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It's like a welcome home. Right? But can. Can a traditional, like, rock musician drop a rap album? No. That's hard.
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Okay, do we have any examples of a black artist that started in a white genre and then went to hip hop?
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Oh, oh, wait a minute.
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That's what this would be.
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No, no, no, no, no, no. But there is. Oh, no, that's a totally different one. Hootie and the Blowfish. Was that the guy? Yeah, Wagon Wheel.
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Yeah.
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So he started out drunk, but he started out doing what? What was that like?
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I think he started at Hootie, but
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yeah, he started with Hootie. But what type of music was it? It was just like pop music. Yeah, pop. And then he went to, like, country.
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Yeah, then country.
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But I guess he didn't get any. Maybe he did get some shit. Maybe we're just not fucking aware of it because we don't know what the hell is happening in country music. My point is that, like, this is like. I think this is perfect example of just like the Internet is one big outrage machine right now. It's like the only thing that gets clicks and the only thing that gets views. It's like reaction, outrage, Reaction, outrage. And they got to find things to be outraged by because maybe they're exhausted being outraged by real shit. Like there's war going on. And they're like, all right, we got all that outrage out. What can I be outraged about? That doesn't really matter. Like Timmy Chalamet talking about, like, ballet or opera. Doesn't fucking really matter.
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Yeah, it doesn't.
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Like, nobody really. Like, I grew up in a dance family. Let me tell you. Like, I grew up in a dance family.
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Gay.
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Yeah. Yes.
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So did he, though.
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I did and he did and he knows it. Like, my wife came to New York to be a ballerina like this. The ballet is completely supported by donors. Like the tickets you do go to see the Nutcracker doesn't pay for ballet.
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Holy shit. Is that why you liked your wife? Because she reminded you of your mother?
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My mom was a ballerina.
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I thought she did all dancing. Ballet was part of it.
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No, no, no. My mom was a three time US Ballroom Dance champion. That put some respect on her name.
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Oh, so your wife didn't live up to what your mom did in the game?
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She didn't become a three time US Balloon Dance champion.
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And you all shit on your wife.
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I'm just saying she didn't achieve that.
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See, I'm doing like the New York Times guys do it to you right now. There's no way you could answer this
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the way they would ask it. They'd be like, so how do you feel about what your wife has accomplished? And I'd be like, I think she did a great job. Yeah, of course she did a great job. That would be that line of life questioning. But I'm very proud of all my wife's achievements. I don't Compare her to my mom at all. Thank God. I know you don't compare your wife to your mom because you're with a white woman.
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I'm with a Spanish woman. I'm with a Spanish woman. I speak Spanish and my mom speaks Spanish.
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So you know what, Alex Harlow? You. You created an R B album in her belly one day. You know what I mean? How dare you criticize Jack Harlow when you trying to create more whites. You doing everything in your power.
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I'm trying to create more white people. I'm trying to make more black. Listen.
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No, no. He's trying to get blacker. You not.
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No.
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Hey, hey.
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There you go, Dita.
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Hey. Jack Harlow is trying to be a blacker.
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You say we don't call Barack the first white president.
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You out here.
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We call him the first black.
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You out here selling St. Patty's Day, you cracker ass. The first thing you say. You didn't celebrate Black History Month. Not one day last month, Al.
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I did a little bit. What did you do?
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You went to Spain with your white wife.
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Spanish. Spanish white. Let's get that straight. She's a Spanish wife.
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She's a beautiful, beautiful lover.
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Beautiful Spanish.
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Beautiful, lovely lady. White as could be Spanish, definitely from northern Europe and migrated to Spain to help kick out the browns. Her family was probably one of the people that kicked the moors out.
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No, no.
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When Dubs. When Dove's great grandma and grandpa came over to take over Spain, it was your wife's family that was like, get these. I'm not gonna say the word. They would say.
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She embraced them because her dad's a biologist and they love that.
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We're trying to do a podcast. I didn't realize that Mark and Akash kept you at bay. Oh, yeah. Holy mo. You're just. You're. You're a bad guy.
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No, I love. God knows my heart.
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I hope the Internet does, too. I hope the Internet does, too. Damn. He just called Dove and his. And his family. Did we bleep what he said?
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Yes, we did. Wow.
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Yeah, we did.
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I called them great people. That's what I did. We had to bleep. That was compliment. No, no.
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You bleeding it.
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No, but you believed it and now they're running with it, so they're thinking you meant something that you didn't say. Oh, fuck. Yeah, you're fine.
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That's way worse.
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You might as well just keep the thing you said. Damn it.
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So I really have to admit, Moore's are great human beings. Damn it. That sucks. Keep it in.
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We gotta work on Al's.
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I know how sarcasm.
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I know I'm not good. I'm not good.
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I'm not good.
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I'm not good. Al's like one of these guys that, at 35, is learning what sarcasm is. He even has his own tone and affect to it. This is good.
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I'm trying, guys.
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All right, listen. This is all I got to say is if there's one thing I hope that Jack can appreciate is it's some of the names that they gave him were hilarious. He seems like a funny kid. I hope. Naturally, you put out an album, you work really hard on it, people judge it, and it's going to hurt. But calling him January 6th in park is disingenuine. Is funny. No, De La Stole is funny. Most definitely not. Admit IRS1 is fantastic.
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That's great.
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Charlie Kirk Franklin.
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Nah.
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So Charlie Kirk Franklin is insane.
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Hold on.
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Yakub Kweli. Hold on. These are cooking right now.
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Wow.
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No, that's fucked up. They just called him straight up, Daniel Caesar. That's. That's mean to our friend, friend of the show, Daniel Caesar. We love Daniel Caesar. Amazing musician. That's disrespectful. Okay. Music. Rothschild might be my favorite.
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That's good. That's good. It sucks all the shit he's getting, too, because I like Jack. He's a funny guy. Good personality. I like him.
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Proud Boyz II Men is. Guys. All right, stop it. Just stop it. Just stop it right now, okay? So unfair. Unfair. With Jack's going through, would you rather that the album just be judged off the merits of the album and nothing to do with what he said in the interview?
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Yes, but then I don't think as many people will tune into it.
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So is there a version where, like, all the controversy gets people to go listen and then he is going to find the people that are into what he created?
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I think so. I think this. If the album's good over the long run, this helps it.
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Okay. Boom.
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Because, like, I probably wouldn't have tuned in, and now I probably will give it a listen just to see if.
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Because you talk so much.
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Yeah, I gotta. Actually. I don't give a. I'll keep talking, but still.
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Nah, that's insane. That one.
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Oh, these are awesome. Yo, the Internet is.
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Yo, can we watch? Because they just dropped the new trailer for Dune. We probably can't watch it right when we get clipped. If we watch it.
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Why we're reviewing.
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Yeah.
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Talking over it and, like, pausing and stuff. That's where we get caught, is we just play it Through.
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Oh, we play it straight through. All right, fair enough.
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All right, so pause it every moment. And you say a word.
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Take the beer from Al.
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Take the beer from Al.
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No, I'm not even cooking yet.
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No, you're cooked. What we need is a chalamet. Okay, so they just Dropped Dune Part 3. Were you a fan? Do you like the Dune stuff?
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I love.
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Okay. You're into Dune? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. How do you think of him as an actor in Dune?
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Great. Phenomenal.
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He's nice like this.
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I think he's a good actor.
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This is the revisionist history. I don't like.
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You said he's phenomenal actor.
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I think he's phenomenal.
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He's not phenomenal. He's good.
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Can you just give me baseline for phenomenal? Is Leo your baseline for phenomenal?
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He. Yeah, he's up there. Yeah. Yeah.
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Okay.
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And he's not Leo yet. Yes.
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Is he Leo at 27? How old was Leo when he was Gilbert Gray?
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I can tell you that was wild. That's funny. You didn't have to do that. He did say the name. That was why. And I'm the bad one.
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I'm not saying that you're bad, but, like, if I'm impersonating, like, if you do Forrest Gump, how do you do his voice? Do you go, I like chocolate? No, he was 19. Say what? He was 19.
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And we did.
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Oh, geez. No, Leo. Come on, son.
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Come on. This is just is. It's become trendy to hate on him. When did you notice?
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You just compared him to Leo, and then you asked the age, and now that Leo was 19. Acting better than Jame.
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We never seen Shalamet act mentally deficient.
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We saw Marty Supreme.
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No, Marty Supreme, I didn't see it, but. But Marty supreme, he was just orchard guy. What do you mean, my guy? I'm just being objective here. Well, I think he's a good actor. I think he's a really good actor. Phenomenal, actually.
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No, not phenomenal.
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You're lying.
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You're capping. And that's why we hate on it, because you're capping.
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I think he's phenomenal. All right, Cap.
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Keep going, Cap, though. That's bullshit. You think he's the same level as Leo, Same level as Denzel.
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No, I don't think he's the same level as Leo. I think, like, Leo, Denzel are in a different, you know, phenomenal. Yeah, Leo. But Denzel. Okay, fine. There's another level beyond it.
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All right?
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But I don't think that Michael B. Jordan is in a different level than. Oh, I don't.
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I don't. Yeah, I think they're the same of them.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I actually think. I know we're talking about this on. On Idiots, but, like, I think that. I think that. I think that the Oscars, they did the right thing just giving it to the youth because, like, you have to pump up the next generation of superstars in cinema. Right. You don't have the luxury of just giving Oscars to the actors that are absolutely phenomenal. Like, even if Leo did a better job in acting than both of them, it's kind of like in the best interest for the movie industry to. To Michael B. Or Timmy as the superstars. And they low key kind of did it. Like, who won the Golden Globe? I think it was a different. Maybe it was Mora or something like that. Wandermore or something. Yep. Wagner Moore. Wagner Moore won it. Right.
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And then that's a person or a movie.
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No, that's. That's a person. He's the. He's the guy who was Narcos, right? Wasn't that the first one where you saw him?
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He's in a movie called the Secret Agent.
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But, like.
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And yes, he's from Narcos.
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That's where we first saw him in Narcos. Anyway, then you got Timmy and then you have Timmy getting the bafta, right? Do any of us care about movies?
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No, not the bafta is the only thing we know about. It was the Tourette's guy. Yeah.
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That's the only show he won that. Yeah.
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Tourette's won baftas.
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Who won best actor? Robert. Oh, interesting. I remember Timmy winning something.
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Timmy just had a losing year, bro.
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I'm looking.
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He didn't.
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He didn't want that whole movie. Didn't win an Oscar.
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No, but I remember him winning some award. Maybe it was golden People's choice or like, what?
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Oh, yeah, give them the one that don't count.
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Why doesn't that one count?
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People's choice.
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What? Aren't you a man of the people, you industry hack? What Netflix deal or Warner Brothers deal? Did they give WTF for you to all over? Is it coming?
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Yeah, you never know.
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He won best best actor in a musical or comedy for the Golden Globe.
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Oh, okay, so. Okay, so. So he did win Golden Globe.
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Yeah, Best actor for musical comedy.
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Okay, okay, so basically my point is, like, they're starting to crown the next generation of. Of superstars, so I don't even know if. And I think that's part of, like, what this. These award Things are about right. It's not like, okay, on. I don't want to be. I want to take away anybody's merits, but, like, the industry has to be thinking, okay, we need to stay alive. We need to message to people out there in the world who the next crop of superstars are. So when we put $300 million into a movie like Dune, everybody goes out and sees it because this is the guy got it. Like Michael B. I didn't think they
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were looking at it that way. I thought they're like, hey, let's get views up. Everybody loves a race war. And just like, prize fighting, like, you make white guy versus black guy tune in.
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Yeah, that's.
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I thought that's what they made this out to be.
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Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I didn't. Did you feel like race was a huge component going into this?
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I didn't think with the BAFTA situation. Yeah.
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I mean, if it was Timmy who yelled it. Yeah. Then how do we know? Yeah. What a instant. Timmy sat next to him, and then he's like, no. I was like, yeah. So it's like. I don't know. I just feel like. I feel like kind of the. The. In a weird way, the industry got what it wanted, you know? Like, Michael B. Is a legit SAR superstar. He's going to be the head of massive movies for the next fucking five, ten years.
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Yeah.
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And then Timmy is a huge superstar on his own.
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Up and coming.
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Up and coming, sure. But he'll probably never do a podcast again. What's. What's interesting about this is that, like, this rollout that he had for Marty supreme was the. What I think most people are like, this is phenomenal. You got awareness out for this movie.
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Okay.
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For the most part, at least the first few months of it, it was like, he's white boy tomorrow. He's the coolest motherfucker. He knows everything.
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At a certain point, I felt it a little too much.
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So that's the thing. It was the. For me, it was the Charlamagne moment, when Charlamagne was hating on him, on brilliant idiots. Like, he was joking around. But it was about, like, the Kendrick thing. And I was like, oh, wow. This is the first moment I've noticed, like, what some people call overexposure.
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Does he get get compensated for going on doing promo?
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It's part of the contract.
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Okay.
A
Yeah. So it's like. But he put the movie on his back, and the industry was basically looking at this movie going, if this movie doesn't do well, like, if it doesn't crack, like, you know, 60 million or 80 million or something that then, like, we don't know if we can make movies that are about, like, obscure stories and no existing IP that nobody knows about. That was the talk. And then it did 150 or whatever it is, and they were like, okay, we're still alive. So there was this big sigh of relief in the industry.
B
But weren't they talking about the Leo movie the same way? They were like, hey, movies are done because this movie didn't do shit, and this Leo is supposed to have done stuff.
A
I think they put Leo in a different category as Timmy. So they're basically going like, yeah, Leo should make a movie crack. And when it didn't, they were killing terrified. And then Timmy comes in with this movie that's maybe even more obscure.
B
So that was either gonna confirm it or give him some hope.
A
Now, seeing the backlash from, like, this opera ballet comment, I wonder if execs are one gonna let him promote Dune like this. Oh, and I wonder if they're gonna let any of their big stars promote anything in this way.
B
Do you feel that the ballet comment even hurt the movie?
A
No, I don't think it hurt the movie, but I think that they're. They're looking at, like, brand, and they're looking. Protecting the brand. Like, star is a brand.
B
Gotcha.
A
And it's like, to what we were talking about on. On. On. Brilliant. It's like an actor when we were growing up, you really knew nothing about actors. Like, I don't know anything about Michael B. Jordan, and that's a good thing. I don't know anything about Tom Hanks. Right. Like, we don't know anything about these people. I don't know what type of food they like. I don't know if they speak other languages. I don't know where they vacation. I really know nothing. These people. And then they can become a character, and then they kind of are that character to us. Like, Tom Hanks is a little bit of Forrest Gump to me. Oh, yeah. You know, like, he. And he gets to live up to that. He gets to become that. The more we know a character as a person, when we see him not live up to that, one, it's trickier, Right? And then. Well, one, it's trickier. And then it's almost like seeing an. Like an athlete in a movie that's not playing themselves.
C
Yeah.
A
Do you know what I mean? Or like seeing Ed Sheeran in Game of Thrones. You're like, Ah, I love Ed. He's the best in the world. But, like, in that moment, I was like, oh, we're watching a show and I'm not just kind of like a voyeur in this.
B
It took me out of the world.
A
Yes. So I wonder if, like, sharing so much of self, like, we live in this fucking share culture where everybody knows everything about everyone. And I wonder if the advantage of the actor, the lifetime actors, is us knowing nothing about them so they could just seamlessly become these people. Like, Denzel Washington knows kung fu. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, Keanu Reeves is a master at martial arts. He might not be.
B
When did Denzel do kung fu?
A
Just in every movie where he can take away your gun or something like that. No, but to me, I'm like, I think he could fuck somebody up. I kind of believe it. So I wonder if the industry starts to go, okay, sharing your opinions with the world. It might be good for, like, a promotional pop initially. But the cost is every opinion you share is going to potentially rub somebody the wrong way who has a different opinion.
B
But then at the same time, I feel a little sorry for the actors. Not sorry, but it's like, I understand them wanting to get their personality out there because, like, me, for example, whatever actor, whatever your biggest role is, I just call you that. So it's like. Like Keanu's forever. Just Neo to me, you know? So it's like, imagine having to be a famous actor and then people are just like, calling you the character name when you pass by. That shit would be. That would piss me off.
A
This is the great advantage that, like, stand up comedians have. Like, if you like us for our comedy, that's who we are.
B
Yeah.
A
Especially if you're not, like, playing a character. So it's like, if you like me for the things I say, I feel really validated when you go, hey, I love your stuff.
B
Yeah.
A
And I wonder sometimes with actors when somebody loves them, I wonder if if in their head they're going, you don't know anything about me. You love. You love Neo from the Matrix. Like, you don't love me. You love this character that this other person wrote. And I wonder if there's that little gap there. And some of them don't have an ego. Like, I don't think Keanu has any fucking ego at all. It's like one of the most likable things about him. But I wonder if some of them are, like, annoyed. They're like, I got in entertainment because I want a validation from People. And I want people to love me, and they don't actually love me. They love these things.
B
I gotta be a little annoying. But then you can just look at your bank account and your lifestyle and be like, ah, you know what? I'll deal with it.
A
Some of them.
B
Yeah.
A
And I wonder if others are like, no, I gotta. I want to write my own thing. So, you know, so I'm getting the validation for what I've created.
B
So now I have to ask you. Because now you're going the opposite direction. You're going from podcasting comedy, where everybody knows you.
A
Yeah.
B
And now you're transitioning into Hollywood, so it's like, the veil's already down.
A
So it's like, is that gonna hurt you?
B
Help you worse? Are you gonna stop maybe showing yourself? Like, do you have to restrict yourself? I.
A
Like, there's certain things that I probably. Like. I don't really share much of my family. Like, if I am talking about my family, like, the whole fucking last special. Yeah. It's like. Like, it's in a version. I feel, like, safe. Like, I didn't feel comfortable telling a joke about Shiloh until Lincoln. Oh, wow. I was so. It was so hard for us to get pregnant. I was so, like, superstitious. I was like, God forbid I tell a joke. And this is silly to think, but, like, in my head, I'm like, is God gonna smite me? Like, I'm saying one joke about this baby that we shouldn't have even had,
B
and then I got a sense of humor, bro.
A
I know it's stupid. It's completely irrational thinking. I am aware of it, but I was so superstitious, you know, and. But I do think that, like, I think the roles, for example, that I've been offered and been able to do are roles that are not that dissimilar from who I am.
B
Oh, okay.
A
Right. Like, nobody's really asked me to act yet.
B
Gotcha. But do you want to? Do you want to get the role that forces you to Daniel Day Lewis yourself?
A
No, I don't want to. I don't need to be my left foot. No, no. Like, I would like to. Like, for me, what's exciting is, like, you know, obviously learning acting, learning how to be on set, learning how to tell stories, and, like, learning what is good and what to avoid and, like, getting more comfortable with it. But also I would like to, like, write or be part of writing and creating something, and then, like, if that creation is supported, I'll feel validated by that.
B
Gotcha. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay.
A
But I think just, like, being a character, that's nothing.
B
Podcast is safe, guys.
A
But, like, being a character, that is nothing like me. You know, it's. I don't know, maybe there'd be something nice to, like, you know, exist outside of yourself a bit, but. Yeah. I wonder if you get jealous of your creation. Like, I. I wonder if that happens to people.
B
Yeah. That I can't see it not happening. That would piss me off.
A
Yeah. Like, what if you had. What if the thing you were most known for in the entire world was this? Something that would, like, I wonder. This with, like, Steve Urkel.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
Are you. Are you trapped by it?
B
Like, you just called. He just called him Steve Urkel. Yeah.
A
No, like, and the dude is Jaleel Way. Jaleel is not like Steve Urkel at all. Like, Jaleel's, like, this cool, swaggy dude. He played that character because he's a really fucking strong actor that could do it. But is there a version where he's like, I need to show I'm not that. I need to demonstrate that that's not who I am, because that's who the world will see you as.
C
That's what, like, kid stars do. Like, Disney actors go through, like, their Disney stage, and then they'll do something that's, like, overtly sort of sexualized or something that breaks them out of, like, the kid version of who they were. Yeah, that happens a lot with, like, children actors.
A
That's why I think sometimes actors do, like, a movie where they're ugly.
C
Oh, yeah, for sure. This is Jacob Elordi and Frankenstein.
A
Jacob Elordi and Frankenstein.
C
Or, like, prove he's not just six, three, and hot.
A
When Sydney Sweeney was in the movie where she was the female boxer. Oh, Chrissy. Yeah.
C
Yeah, Chrissy.
A
And it's like. And it's like, okay, I'm known for being this beautiful human being.
B
Yeah.
A
And a great actor, but maybe there's this part of your head where you're like, am I just known for being hot? I gotta play some ugly shit to show that my acting can carry.
B
And then when it backfires, you're like,
A
I gotta be a hot chick. I'm the handmaid.
B
That shit backfired so much. Nobody watched that shit. And then she follows it up where, hey, I'm the hot girl that the husband cheats on me with, and boom, that movie goes bonk.
A
You know what's crazy? That movie did 400 million, right? That movie did 400 million. And it's women that Supported it.
C
Yeah.
B
Because they hoes too. Women.
A
Like beautiful women with tits. No, but like, the idea, I think for a lot of people was like, oh, yeah, put her in like a skinny little outfit and like show it off and then guys are going to show up. No, that's a book women read.
C
Really?
A
If women read one of those books,
B
it's out of here. Oh, but they like that, that smut book.
A
If, son, if I. If I was a movie studio, I
B
got into it for a little bit. I was like, oh, these are. What'd you read? Ah, one of the ones.
A
Fourth Wing.
B
Yeah, yeah, I was in. I was in. I was watching.
A
You know, that's going to be a movie that's a billion dollar.
B
Yes. Oh, absolutely. I'm tuning. I'm buying early.
A
What is the point? What is the premise? Because my wife was reading it, she started to talk to me about it.
B
Yeah.
A
And it was like, there's dragons in it or whatever.
B
You know, like dragons, fairies.
A
You're not gonna make fun of me for watching sci fi ever again. You know what I mean? If you watch it, if you watching Girl Game of Thrones, like, it's fine. Yeah. So what's the premise of it?
B
Honestly, Miles, you could probably do a better job than me because.
C
I don't know. Fourth Wing. I never read Fourth Wing.
B
It was so.
A
It was a. I don't read that gay shit, bro. No, I just heard about nerd side.
B
He's like, I don't read the gay shit. I just hang out with the gay shit.
A
4th Wing by Rebecca Yarros is the first book in the Empyrean series, a popular fantasy romance novel about Violet Soren Gael, who was forced to join a brute brutal war college for dragon riders, despite her fragile body facing deadly challenges and ruthless wing leader Zaden Riorson, who is also her enemy. The book is known for its romantasy. Oh, that's what they're calling smut.
B
Oh, wow.
A
Romanticy.
B
Anyway, so yeah, the dragons are supposed to choose you and then apparently she's just some weakling, but she's special and somehow two dragons end up choosing her. So she's the only girl who got two dragons. And then she.
A
Miles, this is feeling Game of Thrones Y Miles.
C
I might check it out. I might have to spawn it.
B
It's good. A lot of smut shit.
A
Anyway, if I was a studio, I'm buying up every novel that women read and I'm buying up every video game. You probably can't even afford them now. But I'm buying every video game.
C
Well, this is like that post harry potter thing.
A
Tell me.
C
Harry potter comes out. It's a sensation. Crazy sensation. And then they do every book after that has like a young, like, teen who's like, going through the world and has something similar to that. You had eragon. You had the katniss one where hunger games.
A
Hunger games.
B
Yeah.
C
I mean, even all the way to the vampire one where the guy sparkles.
B
Twilight.
C
Twilight. Like, that's all post harry potter. They're all picking up, trying to make their next one.
A
You know, my wife told me that there was a line at barnes and noble when the new harry potter would drop.
C
I used to wait in those at midnight.
A
Like, that's how popping. Think about this. That's how popping a book was. Can you remember a line at barnes and noble?
B
No. Know the only ones I saw were sneaker drops.
A
We it was sneaker drops. It would be like. Remember sometimes a movie would come out on Thursdays. Yeah. Like, and then I would remember it would be late. It'd be like midnight Thursday. You would see a movie theater. Crazy. I haven't seen a line at a movie theater in a minute. That's another thing.
B
Yeah.
A
Like, remember on 14th street there was like a union square? Do you ever go to that?
B
Oh, yeah.
A
And there'd be like a line down a block.
B
Yeah. And then back now I'm aging myself. But when a new CD would drop, oh, hell, like, would wait for tower records. Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
Because there was only a few spots to get them. So.
A
Yeah.
C
I wonder.
A
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to think that is the one issue with the consumption. Not one issue, but, like, that's the issue with consumption online. Like, watching things streaming. It's not only. It's. I don't even care being in the movie theater. Watch something with somebody else. But in the same way that, like, when you go to a theme park, the line waiting to get on to the ride, there's like some, like, the energy and excitement in that line. That's kind of what I felt a little bit like going to a movie.
B
Yeah.
A
You know, especially a big drop, you know, like everybody.
B
It doesn't seem like you go to movies anymore.
A
Nah, bro. I mean, I think the last one I saw was wicked one.
B
Wow.
A
Was there another one since wow.
B
Yeah, the Wicked 2 came out.
A
I didn't see that.
B
I don't think I still go to movies. I like movies.
A
What was the last one you saw?
B
Oh, I saw marty supreme in theaters. I think there was something else I saw recently. Oh, I saw Wicked 2. Yeah, I think those are the last two. Yeah.
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A
Are you gonna see Dune? Yeah, I'm excited for Dune. When does Dune come out? Joey?
C
November 18th.
B
What?
A
Oh, we got.
C
I got tickets to Project Helmet.
B
Why are they putting the trailer now?
A
Oh, cause gotta build the hype. I imagine they thought Timmy was gonna win.
C
Oh, yeah, they had that shit ready to drop.
B
Oh, Timmy, you fucked it up, bro.
A
That's not.
B
Timmy, you fucked it up.
A
Timmy.
B
Yo, you dropped a bag, bro.
A
Here's a question. If he never says anything about ballet or opera. No. Or can we put on our little conspiracy hats, okay? Because the. The craziest conspiracy is obviously like, you know, some publicist or whatever was trying to bury his name leading up to this campaign, right? A publicist that obviously represented either Michael B. Or maybe one of the other people there, right? That's the most crazy.
B
That's the Charlemagne theory.
A
Yeah. Yeah, he started that shit. Yeah, people are going to do that right now. Like, as I'm talking, I feel like one of the New York Times journalists. I have to be very delicate with how I say. But like, he goes, so. So here's the thing. I don't think anybody. I don't think anybody is going, oh, let's snip that and put that out in the world and make Timmy look bad. Because I don't think there's anybody at a publicist office that could possibly think people could give a fuck about ballet or opera. Like, definitely opera. None of y' all even know where an opera house is. None of y' all can name a song in opera. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, so ballet may be a little bit more so. But there is a thing when something does gain traction. Can you juice it?
B
I think gas it. They just saw the moment. Like, if you look.
A
Who's they? Who is they?
B
The producers of that interview. They saw that moment, how uncomfortable he was.
A
You think they released it?
B
Yeah. And I don't even think with the intention of like, oh, let's harm him. They're just like, oh, this is gonna be a good clip. Which interview are we talking about with McConaughey? You see how uncomfortable Chalamet gets Immediately he's like, oh, fuck, I just. 14 cents. I just lost on viewership. And then now he's like. Then he tries to sing some opera to try to, like, you know, get back in their good graces. Like, he knows it's an uncomfortable moment, and they're like, oh, this is a clip right here. Who would not make that clip if
A
they put out that clip themselves? That's nasty.
B
Yeah, it's a variety. A variety of.
A
They put the clip out. That's nasty work. I didn't know they released the clip themselves and they put out the interview.
B
Yes.
A
Oh, that's crazy.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. If I'm a star of a movie,
B
I don't think they thought it was gonna go get this back.
A
Well, what'd they think it was gonna do? It was gonna win them the Oscar. There's no way, right?
B
Nah, they're just like, yo, we need these views. We need these clicks.
A
Oh, you already got McConaughey and Timmy. They agreed to do this. Neither of them are making any money.
B
Clicks, man. Come on. Y' all love to take my worst
A
moment to make a fuck, but is that.
C
Yeah.
A
Is that the Internet?
B
Did we ever tell the people the. The commercial we shot, how you took by one line. I fucked up.
A
It's amazing. Can you tell us? Yeah, we have. We have that. You have the. The Kraken commercial that we did for the holiday. And what's the line you're supposed to say?
B
I was like, you want to play the fiddle? You want me to play the fiddle, boss?
A
Yeah, you want me to play the fiddle, boss? Right. Al says it, right, like, five or six times.
B
Mad times.
A
And then once. Nailed it. He goes. He goes, you want me to play the flute horn, too? And I was like, this is the funniest thing that Al could possibly say. And I would. I was shocked. It made sense in the edit.
B
Yeah. No one called it up.
A
Nobody. It looked like we wrote it.
B
Acting. See, I'm just saying, sometimes the star is right here.
A
I think the problem with the way that we act when we shoot sketches is, like, not a single line that was written is what we said.
B
What you mean?
A
Like, I got a lot of respect for people who just, like, write a show, and if you just say those lines, it's gonna be funny and great.
C
Sorry.
A
Oh, shit.
B
Damn.
A
Oh, yeah. You got it. All right, go.
B
You want me to play the flute horn?
A
The flute horn, al. I spent $4,800 on this gift, Al. You break.
B
You almost break it.
A
You almost break it. Cuts right there.
B
And go.
A
Play it again.
B
Play again.
A
Cuts. Joy. Ride a horse. Pick some berries.
B
Oh, picking. Like, what else do they do there? You want me to play the flute horn?
A
The flute horn. Now, I spent $3,500 for this gift,
B
yo. And it gets such a big laugh in the room. I was like, oh, this is going
A
to be the one.
B
This is going to be the one.
C
But that's how all great things are shot. Like, if you. I think there's a famous scene where a guy breaks his leg in Hot Rod, and he's jump. Doing a jump, and he lands it, like, 100 times. And then the final one, he falls, breaks his leg, and they go. We're going to use one where he breaks his leg and falls. And like, like, all great. Like, the office or, like, 30 Rock. There's so many cutscenes where they have to move the camera because someone's laughing. It's so much better, bro.
A
You know who has some bangers? What's the guy's name, man? I can't believe I'm forgetting his name. The actor from the Office. He's also Guardians of the Galaxy.
C
Oh, Chris Pratt.
A
Chris Pratt.
C
He's in 30 Rock.
A
C. Rex. Sorry, not the.
C
He's got the best ones.
A
Bring up some of his shit from
C
Parks and Rec because I keep wiping and it just. Is there. That's the one where Aubrey Plaza breaks and they have to move the camera and she looks away.
A
Yeah, dude. There was a Key and Peele sketch where it was like, a rap battle or something. I don't know. Did you see this one?
B
I've probably seen it, but there's a
A
Key and Peele sketch where they have people watching in the back. Right. And what they're doing to one another. I don't know if you can Bring it up. Up, Joey. But what they're doing to one another, the battle, whatever it is, they. It's so funny that they tell the extras, if you have to laugh, turn around.
B
Yeah.
A
Watching it again, knowing that it's so funny. Just look at the people in the background that out of nowhere, just like. Yeah, yeah. See if you can get that sketch. Yeah, Watch. Watch some of Chris's.
B
Well, was Chris Pratt comedian.
A
I think he did stand up a couple times. He said that, I think, to Bill Maher, and then he. Then he did mostly comedic acting. But this guy's good. All right, go. Are you aware of what tennis is? Yeah.
B
What point comes after Deuce White? I did not know he's this funny. I have hot snakes.
A
Hot snakes.
B
It's when the diarrhea comes out like a hot snake. I'll wipe and I'll wipe and I'll wipe and I'll wipe 100 times. Still poop. Still poop.
A
Let me check. It's like I'm wiping a marker or something.
B
And practice.
A
Pause it. Great, Chris. Brad, is that dude, man.
C
He's so.
B
Yeah.
C
There's so many good shows that just. I can watch the bloopers. A tik tok will come up and it'll be the bloopers. And I'll just be like, all right, five minutes of this.
A
Here we go.
B
Is he the one in that weird ass religion?
A
No. No.
B
I thought he got in trouble for being in a weird religion.
A
No, he just got in trouble for believing in God. Yeah.
C
He just is 10 toes down on Christianity.
A
He's like, I'm a Christian. And they're like, you animal.
B
Why are we hating on Christ?
A
Listen, we're in. What? What are we in? I don't even know what to call it, because you don't really. You don't get fired. But we are in, like, outrage. We're just. Again, in outrage culture, where it's just like everybody's angry at everything.
B
Everything. But usually that means things are good.
A
Explain that.
B
That's like, when things are good. It's like you have to search for stuff to be outraged about. Usually that's a good sign.
A
No, that's a great point. We're in things are horrible and outraged culture. That's why this is too exhausting. It's like, there's enough to actually be outraged by. You don't got to be upset about opera, but right now we're upset about war and opera with the same level of vitriol.
B
Oh, I can't take it.
A
I'm Damn.
B
About to slip my wrist every other day.
A
Wait.
C
Jesus.
A
You just got tattooed, you know what I mean? You gonna cut? Hold on. You gonna kill Martin again? You can't kill Martin Luther King twice, Al. No, don't let the white people win.
B
I'm gonna give him a lineup.
A
Give him a nice lineup, okay? Oh, my God. Black leaders on his wrist just so he doesn't kill himself. That's how much I was trying to make it through the next day. Who you getting on that left forearm, bro?
B
God did Hitler so I can finish the job.
A
Jokes. No, he was on the right side of history. Right?
B
Yeah, right. Finish the job. There you go. All right.
A
Play this key appeal joint. This cracked me the upper. Listen, what the fuck is going
C
around?
B
Pause, pause.
A
How do you make a show that's just bloopers?
C
I mean, America's Funniest Home Videos.
A
No, no, I mean, like. Like, how do you make a scripted show? I think.
C
I think you can't, because the bloopers are what you're watching. Because they did it right for so long, you need them. You need a show to be beloved for 10 seasons to get great bloopers out of it.
A
I don't. I don't know if that's the case, because, like, even at the end of movies when we were kids, there'd be, like, the blooper reel.
C
That's two hours of commitment to the characters.
A
Sure, sure, sure. But, like, eight episodes. There is something funny to me inherently about seeing, like, you even watch an SNL sketch, and when someone breaks. Oh, yeah, it's funnier than the point of the sketch.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
And it's just like, maybe we're craving, like, real authentic moments. Like, somebody. Somebody was asking me the other day. They're like, do you. Do you laugh at stand up? And I'm like, yeah. Like, I'm like a laugher. I like to, like, if something's funny, I'd like to give it up. But, like, I. I do also, like, think about it. When I'm watching somebody funny, I'm like, oh, that's a good bit. Or, like, that. Like, I'll. It's like an analysis so much. But when something happens that's not supposed to happen, I die.
B
Yeah.
A
I.
B
Same savior.
A
Pranks get me because the other person is authentically reacting at that moment.
B
You know, I just love a thing that comics do. When you guys are in the room watching other comics. You guys just laugh incredibly loud like.
A
Like, out of support. Yeah. Like, why do y'. All.
B
Why do Y' all do that.
A
I don't know. Maybe it's just like, it's like one
B
of these unwritten rules that y' all
A
all do this, like when a baseball player tips the hat or something like that. It's. I think it's. Yeah, I do know what you're talking about.
B
They all do this shit.
C
You're trying to build the room a little bit.
A
Not. No, it's more. I think it's more just a message to the comedian. Like, oh, that was a good joke.
B
Okay.
A
Like, oh, you popped us.
B
Ah, okay.
A
Okay. That was fire.
B
Do you like when you hear the comic that lads a little laugh?
A
Always validating. When you hear your peers laugh.
B
Got you. Okay. All right. So that's why you do it. You always wonder, actually, that shit is so funny to me. Like, they'll be in the corner just
A
like, yeah, does throw some shit off. On some level there is problem. Probably like an attention seeking nature to it, you know? But like, I think the. The main core of it is like, hey, that was an awesome joke. And I would like you to know that I know that.
B
Gotcha.
A
Which is great. It's like, we ever hear like a director talk about another director. Like, favorite.
B
Yeah.
A
Or like even a musician talk about other music. You're just like, you imagine what that other musician or director is feeling in that moment. You're like, oh, he's got a love. Quentin Tarantino is just saying how incredible this person is.
B
Oh, yeah. If you're getting love from your peers, that's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's dope. That is fire.
A
Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know what's gonna happen in the world, man. So you've been stressed.
B
Yeah, but it's a lot to do with the seasonal depression. I get that every winter. And I think, are you out of it now?
A
That we had some good days towards
B
the tail end, but it's still whatever.
A
You know what's gotta suck? When people are depressed in the winter and then like the summer comes and they're still depressed and they're just like, oh, I got that shit all season, you know? Is that what you got? Like, but like that feeling, you know, like where you think, oh, it's just winter. The second some sun comes out and that sun's hitting, you're just like, I still want to jump off this building and feel the sun coming down, you know?
B
Nah. Yeah. That's why I feel it's like real pussy shit. That it's like, it's not Pussy.
A
It's a lot of people look at
B
the shit as like, really like, you know, my girl gives me no sympathy at all.
A
Oh, you were at that stage?
B
Oh, yeah, yeah. She's like, welcome, my mom. This is.
A
Some things you just tell yourself you are married, bro. Wait till they have a kid to take care of. You can't be tired again. Women own exhaustion once you have a kid.
B
When I used to get sick, she used to take care of me. She's like, ah, let me know when you're feeling better. I'm like, the.
A
My wife gives me one hour. Where's the soup?
B
Or something, man.
A
One hour. My wife is an amazing woman. She's incredibly supportive. Incredible. She. I cannot be sick for more than one hour. Yeah. To the point where. And I like making sounds. Like, when I'm hungry, you'll hear me talk about it. When I'm sick, you're going to hear me talk about it. And she got like one hour of tolerance for that. And after that, she just ignores me. When I'm making sounds in front of you, I want you to react to those sounds. Like, I'm like, oh. I want you to be like, is your stomach okay? Yeah, she'll just go the other way.
B
That's. Yo, that's nuts. How's she. Yeah, so my. She not there yet. She'll still react to the sound.
A
She thinks I'm being a pussy. She's like, man up. She's like, I haven't slept in three years.
B
She's been calling me that whole winter.
A
She just says, you're a pussy. Straight up. Not straight up.
B
Not straight up. I was talking about it. I was talking. It was me, her and one of my friends and I was like discussing it. And she just eye rolls, son.
A
They do that.
B
He was like. And he pointed out. He's like, what you did? She's like, you know, it's a New York thing. I'm like, what the fuck is on a New York thing?
A
That's how you know she's white, bro.
B
Cause no, if she was from Spain, if she was Spanish, very sun, you know, culture. They got a lot of sun over there. White.
A
Officially white, bro.
B
They don't suffer from low vitamin D over there.
A
If she was a Spanish Latina, she would be cooking you fucking a rose combo pollo. She'd be trying to nurse you back to health.
B
She should be trying to get me fat right now.
A
Your mom would never.
B
That's true. That's why I haven't told my mom, because my mom would Have. She would have damn near moved in.
A
Really?
B
Yeah.
A
She's like that.
B
Yeah, she's a nice.
A
Move her back to New York for a little bit, man.
B
No, she's taking care of my. I have another nephew. I got. I got two now.
A
What's the second one named?
B
Alexander.
A
After you. Yeah, but you're not even really Alexander her.
B
Why you gotta. Why you gotta kill it?
A
Hold on.
B
Why you gotta kill it? Hold on.
A
Your sister named her kid after your stage name.
B
Why can't it just be after me?
A
That's like naming somebody's kid Eminem.
B
That would be fine. More people know him.
A
Marshall, you go with the real name. Do people know your real name? Name? I'm not gonna say it because I know it's something you're embarrassed of.
B
No, I'm not embarrassed about it. I just like to keep the separation. It's no embarrassment.
A
So did she ask you. Hey, do you want me to name it off your real name or your stage name?
B
No, she was like thinking about several names. I threw Alexander out there. Well, I threw Alex with two X's out there. She was. She wouldn't do the two X's. I'm still trying to be like, it's still early enough. You can change it. But yeah. So she compromised. She gave me Alexander. Wow. Yeah, I know.
A
It's fire. And how did her husband feel about this?
B
Oh, so he's British and they do like long names. So it's like he got two of his names in the whole. It's like Alexander, Montague, James something. He's like five or six names in it.
A
You threw a Montague in there?
B
I think so. I don't know if she wants me to tell all this because now Montague is Shakespeare.
A
My boy. That's. No, it's.
B
He has a fire name. It's a nice strong name.
A
Can somebody tell me it's like royalty. The Montague's. Jesus, Alex, we were so close of just moving on. Don't put. Don't. Royals. Kids.
B
Ain't that what they're known for?
A
Now there is a royal. I mean, historically probably, or they cousins. That they do.
B
There you go.
A
100%. So that. So they're from Alabama. Yeah, that. That gene pool is a kiddie pool. Is just the shallow ends. But like. All right, what are you supposed to do if you were royal back in the day? Right?
B
Yeah.
A
And marriage got nothing to do with if you love someone or not.
B
Okay.
A
It's just. I would imagine. And you know, obviously you guys, Guys, you know, tap in here, it. I imagine it's just about consolidating power.
B
Yeah.
A
Right. It's like, we got to have another kid. Because if I don't have a kid, which is crazy pressure. If I don't have a kid. A man.
C
Yeah, Boy.
A
A boy. This whole kingdom goes to somebody else.
C
Okay.
A
Wild pressure. You could see why that king cut the wife's head off.
C
Oh, Henry.
A
Yes. Give me a boy. Is there a boy in there? No, but. Yeah, like that. That insane pressure. You gotta have a boy. You're just me. And then you're marrying somebody who's either, like, I don't even know if they can marry nobility. They got to marry another royal.
B
Yeah. Yeah.
A
So how many kingdoms are there, even of Europe? You got six different families that you can even choose somebody from.
B
Yeah. So eventually they're all kind of related some point, right?
A
Yeah. That was the thing. I think about World War I, like, it was just a bunch of cousins at war with each other. That's crazy, right?
B
Yeah.
A
And you couldn't have just worked that out? People, yo. Rich people, dude. They. That's what. That's what I've also figured out that, like, you know how rich people, like, don't pay taxes?
B
Oh, you.
A
No, I paid. I paid too much.
B
No. Well, you ain't rich enough then.
A
I. I know. Yes. I know this. But you know how they. They don't pay taxes. Yeah. And how annoying that is. That's what it feels like when skinny people take oic, Right. If that same feeling, it's like, you already got it, dude. Like, you got it already. Why do you need to go more with it?
B
But then the thing. It's like they end up taking too much, and then they look horrible. Yeah. So now I'm like, go do it. You know?
A
What are your thoughts on the Ozempic thing? You're someone who's fluctuated in weight.
B
You.
A
You're always.
B
I got close to. To it. I got close to taking it if I couldn't get my weight down, because, remember, I had. What's it called? High blood sugar. Yeah.
A
Wait, wait. So you would have a medical reason to do it?
B
No, no. So October 2024, I was pre diabetic. I got a physical. I was pre diabetic, so.
A
No way.
B
Yeah. So my doctor put me on metformin.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
And then I cut out all sugar. I went on, like, a super keto diet. I dropped, like, all. Almost £30 in about four months. But if I wasn't able to lose it and get My sugar on track. I would have did. I would have did the.
A
I didn't know that you were. Do you eat that much sugar?
B
You've seen me.
A
Yeah, but you're so diligent about your diet usually that, like, you can't control yourself.
B
But then I go off, and then. Yeah, and then it goes crazy.
A
Whoa.
B
So now it has to be all or nothing. Well, so I just don't do any sugar.
A
It doesn't have to be all or nothing. It has to be.
B
I don't have have. It has to be nothing.
A
That's what I mean. Because if it's all, you're going to lose a foot.
B
Yes. So now it's just nothing. Yeah, I can. Every time it's somebody's birthday, I don't indulge.
A
I need to understand your relationship.
C
Speaking of, your birthday is tomorrow.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
You got a snitch.
A
How old are you going to be?
B
35, my ass.
C
You've been 35 for four years.
B
Say, that's not.
A
What are you. What are you really turning 39? This is the worst birthday. 40 is liberated.
B
Yeah.
A
Because 40, you're the youngest old. You're the oldest. Young setting. You're the oldest, young. Right now.
B
I still look good for my age, though.
A
Nobody's questioning that. You're on Met Foreman. You have much. Foreman, you're cheating.
B
Not now, actually, I got my sugar on track, so I'm off everything.
A
You're not just continuing it?
B
Yeah.
A
Oh. I've been taking a statin every single day. I have no clue what really does. Yeah.
B
Oh, but that's for your heart. That's different.
A
What is it? What's up with my heart?
B
I mean, you were probably calcifying some arteries.
A
I thought calcium was good until, like, two years ago. My whole childhood was like, oh, you need to get your calcium. You need to get your calcium. I had so much of it that my heart is a stone.
B
Yeah.
A
So I had to get on this st.
B
I used to drink milk with, like, meals. I was one of those families.
A
Yeah, me too. Oh, yeah. I would have milk, like, after exercise, I'd be like. And then drink milk. What an insane thing to do right now. I know. If I have cereal. Dude, this is how old I am. If I have cereal, I have to be delicate with the amount of milk.
B
Why?
A
Because I just won't be able to walk for the rest of the day. I'll just feel stomach pains for the entire day. I used to put a whole bowl of milk in this. I want milk last.
C
You Want the milk after?
A
I want milk after. I might want to put the more cereal in there. Let's soak that shit.
B
Oh yeah. I run it back like a good two times. Of course, then you got to do the balance of a little more cereal, a little more milk.
A
I got a third of milk in there.
B
The milk got too warm. You got to have more.
A
You can't have more milk. I got a third of milk in there. And then I'm mashing the cereal into the bottom of the bowl.
B
Okay. Now that's.
A
Each bite can get a little bit of milk.
B
That's crazy.
A
It's either that or not being able to walk for a day. Cuz I had a bowl of cereal at 42 years old. Yeah, yeah. Nobody told you this?
B
Yeah, I can't do cereal anymore, dude.
C
The best part is when you get the end of the. The cereal bag. If you're doing something at the end and that of milk is.
B
Yeah.
C
Oh man.
B
Good old David.
C
You guys are talking about my drug of choice there.
A
It's cereal, right?
C
Cereal is my biggest drug. Like I could give up drinking tomorrow.
A
What you got in the cabinet right now?
C
I got it all, dude. I got healthy, I got bad.
B
No, no, no.
A
Give me the whole cabinet right now.
C
Unhealthy stuff is going to be.
A
Start with healthy.
C
Oh, start with healthy Special K Red Bears.
A
Okay, hold on one second. Cuz that's what I have. I. I've been hurt.
B
Is not that healthy.
A
I know. That's why I want to talk about it. I'm so passionate. The. The Special K. When we were kids,
B
we thought we were like eating salad.
A
It was salad. Yeah. And it was a different color, different texture. I think it had less sugar on it. Like they turned special canes of Frosted Flakes without telling us. Do you remember what it tasted like a kid?
B
When we were kids, I wasn't doing special cane. I was doing all the bad ones, son. That was Cinnamon toast crunch. Reese's one.
A
Cinnamon toast crunch is why people have strokes.
C
Yeah.
A
100% that's why people have stroke or Cookie Crisp.
B
Oh, yeah, I wasn't a big fan of that one.
A
Just the idea that you would eat a bowl of cookie. What the does some like refugee from Russia think when they show up to America and they're in somebody's house and there's just a bowl of little cookies. Cereal. Bor Don, this is breakfast every morning. Yeah, dude.
B
I would do the Raisin Bran Crunch. So it's like Raisin Bran was supposed to be the healthy One and they're
A
like, nah, do the granola crunch crunches in there.
B
Crunch and sugar in the mess.
A
Okay, go. So you got special care red berries, which is goat cereal.
C
Yeah, yeah.
A
Goat adult cereal. Sweet enough.
C
Yeah.
A
But you think because it's grandfathered in through the health, you think it's healthy.
C
I don't even convince myself. It's. I've heard some doctor say you'd. You should just eat the box. It's healthier to just eat. And I'm like, yeah, just. It's my drug of choice.
A
I got excited for Z. I was like, we could eat the whole box.
C
Honey bunches of oats with the almonds in it.
A
The blue box, that is. I'll be honest with you. That's ass, bro.
B
But that's when you think you're being fake healthy.
A
That's. That's the mom and dad cereal. You want to know mom and dad thought that was healthy. Yeah. So you're like, all right, it. Let me. Let me eat this grown up food.
B
Funny, because that was my mom's. And of course I finished mine. I would just go to that one. Yeah, yeah.
A
But it's kind of ass.
C
No, I love that one. But you can do honey bunches of votes. Just bunches that will ruin your life.
B
Oh, so that's just the sugar part.
A
Yeah. So they take the Nature Valley granola bars. Remember those hard shits that you could put like under a table that you're eating out at to level it? They just crunch those up and put it in the bag. 2,000 calories, easy to the face. Okay. Oh, what else?
B
Damn. I want to goddamn.
C
Captain Crunch Crunch berries. Captain Crunch Crunch. I don't like chocolate cereal. That's my one issue.
B
The Crunchberry one. That's fine. Miles knows his. I ain't gonna lie, miles.
C
Also 2% milk, cuz I'm a fat white kid.
B
Like, nah, that's healthy.
A
Right? 2% was. We would go whole 3%.
C
That's even. Yeah, that's even more like.
A
Hold on. It's only 3%?
C
I think so. I think.
A
I thought it was 100%. No, I thought it went. I thought it went.
B
I might be wrong. I might be wrong.
A
Wrong. After 2%.
B
Bet it was like mad water.
A
And not the skin was like. Like just. They just take the little titty in a cow and they just do one squirt into a gallon of water. I thought that is news to me. Miles.
C
It's 3.3.25%.
A
Get the out of here.
B
Yo, that is crazy. Crazy.
A
Yeah.
B
I just learned something.
C
And then skim's damn near fat free. It's like water, basically.
A
Yeah.
C
If you had skim milk. If I woke up and, like, there was just skim milk in the fridge, I was like, I'm going back to bed like this.
B
You might as well just put water in your.
A
My mom would eat skim milk and then eat a wheel of cheese at night. And I'm like, just pick your points. Yeah, I know, right? The you doing. You got a dairy factory in your stomach.
C
Oh, man.
A
Okay. Okay.
C
I. I mean, I just got. I'm like. I go to that bodega at night, and this guy knows me so well. This guy yoga hardly speaks English, and he just. If I don't buy cereal, he's like, are you okay? Like, is everything all right? Yeah.
A
Wait, did you hit us with the unhealthy yet? Crunch Berries?
B
The Crunch.
C
Yeah. Crunch Berries. I really like Reese's Puffs.
B
Reese's Puffs.
A
That's too much. I can't. It's too sweet now. And it's. It gets on the top of your sweet.
B
There's nothing too sweet.
A
No, you got a. You got a real thing, huh?
C
Cinnamon Toast scrunch. Cinnamon Toast Crunch rules. The only chocolate one I like is Cocoa Pebbles.
B
I used to use Honey Nut Cheerios and then add honey on top. I thought I was being like, ow.
A
I was cultured.
B
O. Because I was adding honey instead of sugar. And I would steal the honey packets from McDonald's.
A
These kids don't know about doctoring your own cereal. My mom would buy. Buy the. The. The Cheerios with no sweetener or whatever. Oh, God. Kellogg's. What was it called?
B
Like, the off brand.
C
That's just regular Cheerios.
B
Okay.
A
Corn Flakes or not Honey Nut Cheerios. Just Cheerios.
B
Cheerios. Yeah.
A
And then she would put the sugar on herself like some old. Like she was from communism or something like that. And, like, I'm not gonna lie. Putting your own sugar on the Corn Flakes.
B
Yeah.
A
Don't leave that up to Kellogg Milks, bro.
C
I did that.
A
You got to do that at home.
B
Yeah.
A
Legendary Honey on the Honey Nut. Cheers is weird because I don't think it would mix in, bruh.
B
You gotta keep. You gotta keep doing it. I'm telling you, it's nice.
C
My mom used to take the milk out of the fridge and give it one little shake because she had powdered milk. Sometimes as a kid, she didn't have a ton of money. And we'd always laugh because she'd Take it out.
A
I always shake the milk. You guys don't shake the milk.
C
That's to break up clothes lumps. I mean, it's like.
B
Yeah, I think your milk just went bad.
C
No, no, I never. Dude, the way I was eating cereal, our milk didn't make it through the night. Like I. We were doing a gallon in high school. In high school to gain weight. Because I was so thin and small, I googled like, how can I gain weight? What can I do? And I'd lift every day and I'd drink a gallon of milk a day. Go mad.
A
Wow.
C
Legit. A gallon of milk a day. Whole milk or 2% every day for like a year.
B
He do look like a milk drinker, son.
A
That's crazy. Yeah, my dad got pretty prescribed a milkshake a day from a doctor when he was a kid. That's what medicine was back in the day. People don't realize. That's why you can't trust these vaccines, man.
B
What?
A
These doctors will prescribe anything. Jokes about vaccines. Please don't clip us. But yeah, that was the prescription. He was a skinny ass kid. They wanted him to put on weight. And the doctor was like a milkshake. A milkshake a day.
B
God damn, I wish I had that problem. You know what I wanted today? The fucking Shamrock joint.
C
Ooh, Shamrock shake from McDonald's.
A
A Shamrock shake.
B
The green one.
A
Oh, from McDonald's. It's like a McFlurry or something like that.
B
But they only do it on St.
A
Patty's and you're not going to do it.
B
I was hoping I was. I'm not going to walk and get it myself.
C
Did you ever get.
A
Come on. Why not, Al?
B
No. I mean, I wanted for the show, but I didn't want to go all the way up to Canal.
A
Okay, all right.
B
It's only. Only place I get other people to do stuff, you know?
A
What were you saying?
B
Shut up.
A
What were you saying, Miles?
B
Keep going.
A
Talk, Miles. What were you saying, Mil?
C
I was just talking about. You were talking about things you can get at McDonald's that are seasonal. Were you ever hyped about the McRib?
A
No, I never got that shit.
B
What?
A
I never understood it. I don't even think I've eaten a McRib. Deadass.
B
You're a city boy, bro. This is easy. Grew up rich.
A
This is why I love rich beach community people. Yeah. Yeah. You guys grew up with a beach community. I did it. I'm really in these streets. And the reality of the matter is, is that McDonald's is a business that is made for profitability, ability.
B
Yeah.
A
If that was supposed to be eaten or legal to eat all year rounds,
B
they would keep it.
A
They would keep it. There's something about it that they can only feed it to us for like a month or whatever. So that was always weird to me, like.
B
Like the logic checks out.
A
Why would you. If everybody loves it, why wouldn't it stay on the menu?
C
Maybe it's just mad cheap.
B
Because then you wouldn't rush. You wouldn't have the rush to go get it.
A
I don't care about your rush.
C
Rush scarcity.
A
They don't care about your rush, Al. They know that that is going to kill you.
B
What's crazy is that it's, like, shaped like ribs, but not even ribs. No bones in it.
A
You don't even know what that.
B
We don't know.
A
And you ate it.
B
It was delicious.
A
Delicious.
B
It's a fish filet.
A
I had cheese with the cheese. Yo. Cheese and fish is another. What do we think? We didn't question. Question anything.
B
This is ghetto. I was a ghetto kid, guys. You don't understand the level of ghetto I used to be.
A
You know what we needed as kids? We needed conspiracies, man. We needed, like, conspiracy theorists as kids. We didn't question enough. Yeah, we would eat a fish sandwich from McDonald's.
B
Yeah.
A
No question what the fuck that fish was. McRib didn't have a single rib in it. They only had it for a month out of the year. We thought that's when ribs were made. Like, there was no way to. Like, we didn't. Did you question a single thing as
B
the beef from the Quarter Pounder and the regular burgers are just so different. And I'm like, why is the beef taste different? Like, that's a little nuance right there. See, that was. I was a McDonald's condo.
A
Can you think of a single thing you questioned as a kid?
B
I'm a MC Sommelier. Did I say that right?
A
No, no.
B
I tried.
A
You said sommelier. Right?
B
Oh, so then MC Sommelier.
A
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
B
You all right? Give me something on that. Where's the comic? In the corner.
C
I think McDonald's should give out a passport. There's an idea I had. They should give you a passport in America that when you go to McDonald's in other countries, you can get it stamped so you get like a McDonald's passport and then you go to, like.
B
Actually not a bad idea.
C
It's not a bad idea.
A
Y' all are fat.
B
We Are really Auto.
A
Y' all are both, like. You're both culturally and spiritually fat. Yes.
B
Yeah.
A
Neither of you are fat. I'm, like, spiritually fat, but I'm, like,
B
proud of it, though.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
Hell, yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, I've been through the trenches, bro.
A
I made it out. I need to try the finer things in life, like McDonald's in Sweden.
B
I still got both my feet right now. I made it out, baby.
A
I mean, my miles. You really want to travel the world, eat a McDonald's for.
C
I've never gone to a foreign country and not gone to the McDonald's in that foreign country.
A
Really?
B
You never, like, you check out the menu. It's all always different.
A
What about Saudi Arabia?
C
Went in the airport in Saudi Arabia. Went in the airport or went in Dubai. Went. Oh, no. I did Saudi Arabia inside the place where it did in that little fairground. So we did the. The comedy.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
I remember when he dipped off and went to the McDonald's, and he wanted to see that. Yeah.
C
It's a part. It's a thing you got to do. It's part of it.
B
Legendary, I suppose. Step it up.
C
You got to do it.
A
And what they have there.
B
Chicken.
C
A lot of chicken.
A
A lot of chicken, right? Yeah.
B
Was it covered up? Low key.
A
The way that they wrap the burgers is kind of like a burka. Yeah. You know?
B
Yeah.
A
There. I mean.
C
Yeah, The MC burka. They could sell that and just has a little.
B
Dude, I'll be fire. Come on.
A
Hey, man, they're not all going to hit.
C
Yo, don't let me bomb them.
B
There's only three of us in the room.
A
Bombing's a lot louder.
B
Yo. Bombing is a lot louder.
A
Just us, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're dealing with enough bombs over there. We might as well. Oh, I've been.
B
Open the straight.
A
I saw. Yeah, Open the straight.
C
Let the McDonald's free.
A
Let the oil out. Come on. Okay. All right, There's a. I saw this. This I thought was one of the most brilliant marketing ideas in history. This is a real thing. Okay. This is. This is a real thing.
B
Thing, right?
A
Do you know it's March Madness.
B
Yeah.
A
Kali is doing a $1 billion perfect bracket challenge, meaning the winner, if they get a perfect bracket, gets a billion. Gets $1 billion.
B
That's crazy.
A
The best bracket gets a million, let me tell you. And then they took a million to charity or something like that. Now the chances of getting a perfect bracket are like. Like next to zero. You can look and see if anybody in history Is ever done it right.
B
Oh really? I thought like several people win every year.
C
No, no, not a perfect the whole bracket perfect.
B
Oh, okay. Okay.
C
I don't think it's ever done. Warren Buffett used to sort of offer this.
A
The closest known attempt was in 2019 when a Bracken win 49 games without a mistake before breaking.
B
Wow.
A
It's harder than the lottery. Now this is. This is why I think it's brilliant. So nobody wonders, nobody's thinking like I can do it. But if you are going to fill out a bracket, if you're going to do one bracket, would you not do it in the place that you could win a billion dollars?
B
Oh absolutely. And also the way I don't even do this bracket but I'm going try. What's the buy in for it?
A
I don't know. We should look at that figure out what the buying but like it's like million dollars. I wonder if that's just free low key.
C
Yeah, I would imagine it's free.
A
It might just be free. Yes.
B
And then how the they going pay out?
A
Well they. Well this is how it works. It's actually really interesting but I imagine just sign up is the thing that's valuable. And then maybe when you sign up we trade on games whatever. But like this is. This is the genius. So the way these things work like when somebody does like a half court shot in an NBA game, the team doesn't pay you if you win. The team pays an insurance company a much smaller amount and the insurer covers the win if they hit it.
B
Oh wow.
A
So with this I don't know what the deal is but I'm curious. It's like nobody's ever done in history. So for the insurer it's a pretty safe bet. But yeah. How much do you have to pay to get a billion dollars of insurance?
B
Yeah.
A
Does couch you go okay, here's 10 million. Okay. How to claim your free Couchy billion dollar bracket entry.
B
Wow.
A
You got to visit calcium create a new account. Anyway so this is a perfect example right economy's Everybody needs a dollar.
B
Mm.
A
There's a free option to win $1 billion.
B
This is dangerous.
A
Listen, I'm saying it here right now.
B
There's already a couple of Nancy Carrigans taking out knees bro.
A
This is dangerous. You know what I you know what I thought with this is like. And I guess you can't do it because like every account is verified like cows you actually is different than the other ones where like they take your fucking information and shit. Like they Take your Social Security or whatever. But like my first thought before I realized that was with AI, why don't we use Claude or Chat, GBT or whatever to create half a million accounts and just try every permutation you possibly could.
B
Oh, you them over.
A
Well, no, but they, they make sure that they verify that you're a real person. That's the shitty way that we can't, you know, rip them off.
B
I mean, we got the migrants, son.
A
Exactly. We got them in the hotel. You give each one an iPad and it's like, yo, all day. Yeah, all day. You got to be signing up for accounts.
C
It's 1 in 9.2 quintillion.
A
Quintillion the chances. But again, it doesn't matter. I'm saying this here right now. I think this year somebody does it. I don't know if they're going to do it through them and they're going to wish they did. But I for some reason feel this year is the year somebody gets it. And then that's a bit like.
B
That's crazy. Yeah, I got it. I'm do it.
A
Look, don't you feel like I. I feel like I'mma do it.
B
I'm lucky. I be getting mad lucky.
C
1 in 9.2 quid lucky I got this.
A
And I think you got to go about it not looking at the seeds. Really.
B
I'll hit you up with a mill.
A
How much would you give me if you want a billion dollars?
B
A mil?
A
What? Just one. You got a billion? All right. The government going to take half. So now you're at 500.
B
500 though.
A
Yo, Al's mama gonna be living in the same house she's in before that billion. Let me tell you that.
B
Nobody get a new house. I'mma pay it off.
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A
Yes. What do you think about that?
B
I'm, I'm looking at Spain.
A
Is this, is this a different reaction than remember when like Rosie o' donnell and like who is the other lesbian? Ellen. Like they're like I'm leaving the country and then I think they ended up coming, coming back. Or do you think this is fundamentally different? Like people reacting to what is happening and them not feeling comfortable?
B
Yeah, I think the latter because it's like you're just looking at the direction things are going in and it's like. And he's getting more and more brazen with the stuff that he's doing.
A
Yeah.
B
Like it's, it's low key. Scare me. And I think the economy is going to collapse because right now the, we don't want to get political but whatever. Like the way we went after Venezuela, China can go after Taiwan and we can't say shit. And if that happens and Nvidia stock gets affected, our whole stock market collapses.
A
That's the thing I don't understand about Taiwan and I understand that these systems are complex and like Taiwan doesn't just. We had what's his face on here on this pod. Oh man, what was his name? Geopolitical expert Indian guy. Yeah, yeah. And he was saying how like he was saying like these chip processing places like they rely on 15 different countries to even execute the chip. Like this country doing this thing and this country's doing that thing. So it's not just them, but it is shocking to me that chip processing that our entire stock market is kind of relying on the same way that the, you know, during like the dot com era, the stock market was like really heavily dependent on these.com.com stocks, these tech stocks. It is crazy to me that like we would allow it to exist in this foreign country that could be invaded at any point in time that we wouldn't try to shift that over here. And maybe that's what they're trying to do now. But like difficult.
B
It just must pick up the machine
A
and bring it over here.
B
It must be that difficult. And imagine if you have something and you're the only Place in the world that can do that. You're not giving that up to no nobody.
A
You might give it up to the people that are making sure that you not Chinese. You know what I mean?
C
True.
A
Yeah, but so you're, you're really concerned about like economic downturn. Now the question would be where would you go? Because I imagine these other places aren't like impervious to the negative effects of a global economic collapse.
B
Yeah, but there's a lot of places in Europe that like, they kind of don't get involved with this shit. Like Spain is one of these places like, yo, do your thing. We're not involved, involved, like, leave us alone. And they're not like, of course everybody's going to be affected. But I think the Euro will hold up a little bit more than the dollar will.
A
I don't know. Again, I don't know enough. But like, I think, look, if the American economy takes a massive, massive hit. Yeah, we're the biggest consumers in the world, bro. The whole world does not want that to happen.
C
That's true.
A
So it's like, well, what the, like, if every other country that's making shit all of a sudden doesn't have their biggest buyer, what does that. What happens to their economies?
B
I'd rather be in a place where people are used to getting by with less.
A
Well, that's, that's a decision that you can make for sure, which is like, here is your lifestyle.
B
It's going to get a little crazy.
A
You think it's going to get a little crazy? I think it's really. And would there be a place here that you would consider going and it doesn't have to be like some bougie ass place, but just like a community that you're like, you know what, this is kind of insulated. I like the lifestyle here. I like how people live. And I don't think it will be as reliant to on tech stocks that are all.
B
I don't know of any. Like, can you think of any. Yeah, where.
A
I mean, you know, you could probably go upstate. You know what I mean?
B
Yeah, I guess.
A
I mean there's probably tons of places that you could go to where, you know, these are just like nice insulated communities.
B
Matter of fact, why would you. Still cold upstate. It's still like, hey, oh, you want
A
some good weather too?
B
Yeah, like, I'm gonna pick some place. Let me pick something.
A
Just looking for an excuse to leave America and you're trying to blame it on their economy.
B
It's looking a little, it's not looking good.
A
Yeah, well, what it.
B
But it's not like I'm trying to. I'm just. I want the option if goes down, I want to be able to.
A
What does sh. Go down look like to you?
B
I don't know. I honestly did. Stock market collapsing and then people being hungry and then fighting crime.
A
Oh, you're worried about, like, violent uprising? Yes.
B
Whoa, whoa.
A
Yeah, well, yeah, that makes things.
B
Things. It's already pretty tight and no one's doing anything to make things better, bro.
A
It's. Yeah, it is. It is a concern. I never. Yeah, I didn't think about, like, violent uprisings because of, like, economic downturn. I thought about valiant uprisings because of, like, systemic issues and like, fighting for people's rights and fighting for their livelihood. Like, that's something that I think that we've, you know, seen in our lifetime, but simply from the point of like, we need food and we're gonna go. Go attack something. Because it's like that's a.
B
Are getting fired with AI and it's going to keep happening.
A
So that's faster and faster. Okay, so that's, that's the thing, right? Like the existential crisis of AI. Yeah, everybody is concerned about that. Like, there's these conversations about entry level jobs I'm sure you've heard of.
B
Yeah, but now it's even white collar jobs.
A
Of course. Of course. But like, I think. What, what. At least from what I've read complete casual to this, but like, they're saying that it could wipe out 30 to 40% of entry level jobs. Meaning like the assistant work or like, you know, a junior editor, for example, instead of, you know, organizing files and setting up these different editing documents, you can have your, I guess Claude potentially organize it for you, et cetera. So that would limit 100%.
B
And then anthropic release something the other day that says like, oh, coding jobs. Doctors, law assistants or whatever. Like, yeah, yeah, Josh, you have to get. Go to college for.
A
Yeah, so here's my question, here's my question about that. This is not the first time that there's been like, transformative technological advancements. There's no question that there's going to be a period where, like, people are going to lose jobs. But, but hasn't history shown us that other jobs will sprout up around the technological advancement? So computers come around and they wipe out whatever the fuck they wipe out. But now you have all these computer technician jobs. You have people that are creating new types of computers. You have competitive coding companies that are trying to develop more sophisticated programs, does that also continue and do the jobs just shift in that direction?
B
Potentially, but I think it's gonna happen to too many people too quickly, and there's not gonna be enough of the new jobs available for all the people out of work.
A
Right. And that also could be the case.
B
I just can't see a world where we create enough new jobs for everybody to pivot to.
A
Right.
B
And when that happens, our country already fights over how much taxes we pay and handouts this and that, and socialism. Like, I don't think we're coming to the help.
A
Well, I mean, that's going to be the circumstance where it's just like, people are going to need money to survive and the economy is going to need liquidity to survive. And by liquidity, I mean, like, people are going to need to buy things. Yeah.
B
You can pump some money into the economy for a while.
A
So. So does, does it end up being like that universal basic income situation where. Where it actually. They're not doing it because they're like, oh, we're worried that you're home hungry. They're doing it because they're like, Apple still needs to sell phones. Right. And we still need to make sure that there's money being exchanged in this economy.
B
But think about the resentment that's going to build between people who work and people who get the free money.
A
Well, what's the.
B
We already have the resentment right now for people on welfare.
A
Yeah, but I feel like, well, if
C
Go Go miles, the U of UBI would be universal. Everyone gets paid.
B
Yeah, but it's still like the people at home not working versus the people who work. Even if you get the extra money, there's still going to be some resentment.
C
It's like, even their lifestyle at home is not going to be the lifestyle of the person who has the same
B
thing that's happening right now to people on food stamps. And people still complain about those people.
A
Yeah, but that's whack, bro. Like the. I, I like, I don't think, like, really wealthy people are worried about people on food stamps or thinking about them.
B
Do you listen to politics? They complain about them all the time. People leeching off the government.
A
Yeah, but I don'. Having two or three kids and staying at home. I don't think those are the wealthy people. I think those are politicians that are representing people who are disenfranchised.
B
Yeah.
A
So I think they're representing voices that are, like, far more impoverished than, like, the billionaires. The billionaires aren't Even thinking about that, they're like, it's not my money that goes to the food stamps. I'm hiding my money.
B
I'm talking about the infighting amongst the.
A
Yes.
B
Lower middle class. That's where the fight is going to happen.
A
Listen, I've read stuff about it and all this stuff seems like a potential plausible outcome. But I'm also in this place right now where I'm, I think right now because things are so bad that many people have a very negative outlook on America. So what trends and what gets views. Is America bad? I. E. If you look at like any. This is a bad example. But like when the war first started with Iran, the videos that were getting all the views were America's gonna lose. And I think that, that not only is that interesting because you're probably like, oh, I thought we had the strongest army. How the fuck are we gonna lose? I think there's maybe also a part of it which is like, well, what the fuck is America doing? I don't know if it feels deserved, but like there is that. Like it's not a nihilistic standpoint, but there is this viewpoint that's just like, there's, it's negative. And we are trying to find a way to frame it where it's like, it's not like we want America to do bad, but because things don't look good, we're looking to confirm that feeling we have. Does that kind of make sense? So I'm, sometimes I, I at least try to treat the existential crisis content with a little bit of skepticism. Where I'm like, if is, is this real or is creating a piece, a YouTube video about how AI is going to destroy all the jobs, just the thing that gets the most views.
B
Gotcha.
A
You know what I mean?
B
I feel like I approach it that same way. I just would like just in case it is to have an option. Yeah, that's my thing.
A
I think that's smart. You want your bunker, whatever, your version of the bunker. Exactly.
B
Yeah, yeah. And then when you see got my concealed carry license.
A
Yeah. I don't know what the fuck is gonna go down. It's like when you see the rich people building bunkers, like wheel out to be suspicious too.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it.
A
So. But you do get where I'm coming from, where it's like if the, if, if the content is satisfying the feeling. And I think that's kind of like how the Internet works. It's like however people feel the content, like content is oftentimes audience capture so it's like when Timmy Chow Mei is the coolest guy on the planet. All the videos were, look how cool Timmy Chalamet is. Look how amazing his outfits are. Look how awesome his movies are. Look how dedicated he is to his craft. Then when it's Timmy Chalamet sucks and he shouldn't have done that. Now you see all the same creators doing content about how he sucks. So in a lot of ways I think that like, the content creation is a reflection of what people feel, not the other way. Where. Whereas back in the day before you knew what views were, like, when you were just making newspapers or magazines, magazines, you didn't know how many people really read it. Like, yeah, you know, who bought it, etc, but you didn't know what was resonating, what articles, etc. They kind of dictated information and then people reacted to information.
B
Ah.
A
So they could kind of dictate the feeling of the public, you know, like.
B
Yeah, but then isn't that. So isn't the content now more reflective of how the people are feeling?
A
Yes, 100, 100. And before you could propagandize way better, right? It's like, hey, we gotta, hey, we gotta go to war. Okay, all the media companies, let's get on the same page, page about why this is important, yada, yada, yada. What I'm just saying is that I think human beings in general have a more like catastrophic thinking when it comes to the world and outlook. It's, it's more rare for us to be like hopeful and optimistic. And I think that's why, like when specific, you know, figures like in Obama and these like, or like even Muhammadani, these like incredibly charismatic, optimistic people. Come on. It's, it's, it. You see, religious figures also do this, right? Where it's just like it. I mean, you see a lot of like, I don't know how you feel about them, but like the wealth preachers, like, you're going to be rich, you know, type of. And it's like, it's intoxicating in a lot of ways because it's a break from the catastrophic thinking that is probably more ingrained into our like, primal nature. Yeah. You know, like, we're always worried about how things are going to go bad because that's how you stay alive. So I try to, like, when I see trends on the Internet, I try to go, okay, is this real or are these people just creating what is going to feed off the fear and insecurities of the audience?
B
Got you. And you're not worried at all?
A
No, no, of course I have those worries. But I try to like talk back the worries. So I'm not just reading things that confirm my concerns. I'm not as catastrophic as like maybe be some, you know, where it's just like. Yeah, I, I, you know, I think like the global economy is so intertwined that like I, I think right now,
B
like, even when these billionaires are building bunkers and the people that are working at the tech places that are creating this AI are trying to warn you, like, yo guys, this is going to like collapse. Like, that doesn't.
A
Scary. Yeah, that is scary. And then I'll like ask Chat GBT an easy question and it'll get it wrong and I'll be like, nah, we got a few years. So it's like, is it gonna take over the world or does it not know, you know, the difference between red and green?
B
Yeah.
A
Or whatever. Like, it's, it's tricky. I just, I don't think that I haven't witnessed it. And again, like, we live in a weird space where we're. I'm sure we could use AI and I'm sure there are things that we do with AI in our business, but it's probably not as prevalent. If you're in a law firm or you work at like a CPA agency where you're doing taxes, you're probably like, oh shit, you're using Claude to do your job. And you're like, eventually we're not going to need a me.
B
Yeah.
C
I said this on Al's show we were on on Sunday. I said, I think a lot of middlemen or like, I don't want to call them middlemen, but like that job that is between an individual and a like industry.
B
Yeah.
C
Are a lot of people that are like, oh, those two might get a lot closer.
A
Can I, can I give an example of that?
B
Yeah.
A
Real estate agents.
B
There's. That was a job that. And it sucks because one of my guys is a real estate agent. But that's like been a job that I'm like, when are they gonna.
A
So like there's value for the real estate agents, I think in terms of like knowledge and awareness of an area when you're buying a place like them being able to go look, like, I know the history of this building. You know, the building's in debt. So if you buy in here, you're going to take on that debt. Like all these like little things that like you and wouldn't even think of when buying a place. Also knowing little obscure, like there's a subway project coming into this area. So now this street is actually going to be super valuable because, like, these other little intangibles. If you're just renting an apartment in a city that you only plan to live for, like, a few years, like, how is Zillow not worked it out where you just apply like you do for a restaurant reservation?
B
Yeah, I know. It's crazy.
A
Like, you. What are we doing here?
B
Like, Tesla doesn't have any dealerships. You order your car through an app,
A
and it shows up at your house. Get the fuck out of here. Like, there's no dealerships. Remember when banks did that? Remember when it was like, Charles Schwab or something? It was like, they were like, yo, no ATM fees. And we're like, what's the catch? And they're like, we don't got a bank.
B
Yeah.
A
And then we're like, so I could use any atm. They're like, yeah, you're like, all right, take my money. Like, I don't want to go to my bank. I want to go to the. machine, Times Square to charge me $12 to take out money.
B
Yeah.
A
So, yeah, I think that they're. Okay, maybe the. The. The specific jobs where they are middlemen, and you could see technology even without AI closing the gap. Like, it's. It is crazy. You should. You should be able to get an apartment by just reaching out directly to the person. Yeah, right.
B
Like, but, hey, that's a job. That's somebody's livelihood.
A
No, no, I don't want them to lose that. And I think when it comes to buying a property, it's this massive investment. It's like everything you've ever earned. I don't know if you would want to leave that up to a computer, but, like, when you get an Airbnb. This is why I think it's kind of obscure. When you get an Airbnb. Is there a real estate agent involved?
C
No, no, just the company itself.
A
Right. So it's like, you give your information. They do. Granted, it's for a shorter amount of time, so it's not that big a deal. But, like, how is renting your apartment, apartment, month to month different than an Airbnb? Like, it's not fundamentally that different. Yeah, right.
B
Or, no, you're not wrong. But I. That just scares me. It scares me for, like, luckily, I think I'm safe, but I said this on the show also. Thank you for coming through to the show. Miles is really opinionated, bro. This guy. Like, that is not true.
C
I. I Pulled the mark AG on and just sat on that.
B
But it's like it was my business. For example, I've already pointed out ways that I can use AI to save money and, like, skim down on jobs.
A
What's. What's an example? Not saying you would do it, but what's an example?
B
Like, there's a lot of these AI things to cut clips where I don't need to have a team of people that cut clips for people I can save. I can right now save a bunch of money, and I'm choosing not to because the business is still doing well and I don't want to fire people. But if it comes to it, where the business starts to suffer, you're going
A
to have to find ways.
B
And like, that is the same thing that probably every business owner is thinking about right now.
A
Yeah, that's a tricky thing where it's like.
B
And I don't. I don't have, like, what's it called? Like, investors that, like, I'm not on the stock market, so I don't have to, like.
A
You don't have to answer to those investors. Exactly. You did. You got to show returns and you got. Yeah, yeah. That is the. Yeah. Like the, the ideal scenario, right, is like, every one of us could use AI to make our jobs easier and better, and everyone still has their job. Yeah, right. Like, the ideal scenario is like, Miles, you get to use AI to help you with. With your processes for production, editing, et cetera, and it cuts your work down, but you still make the money you make and you get to enjoy more of your life and you get to do other things with your time. Like, that is. Is just. That's the ideal scenario. But it. But as we know, we live in a system that is going to be built around profit. Not everybody is going to have a kind of communal office vibe that we have where, hypothetically.
B
And sorry, Miles, you're. You're the example in this. What if you saw Miles posting every day, like on a beach, drinking a margarita and. And all the work is getting done. Somehow he found AI automation to do everything? You'd be perfectly fine with it. Totally fine with it, that he's not
A
here and he's chilling the second he fucks up.
B
Oh, that is.
A
I'm going through his whole Instagram feed with him. Second he fucks. I'm going through. I'm like, why would. Why did this happen right here? Why? We want to be cheerful. Yeah. You know, so, yes, that would happen.
C
I'm aware of that already.
A
No, but I'M already aware. No, but like, for me, if. If the business is. Is profitable and everybody's eating and there's a fine. If there's a technological advantage that we can use. Here's a perfect example. It's not fucking AI, but when we. We first started a podcast, right? We would have to process three cameras of audio back in the day or video back in the day, right? It was like, then you'd have to sync up the cameras, sync it up to the audio, and then edit angles from all three cameras. And then I bought this thing called a switcher.
B
Yeah. You remember when we bumped into each other at B and H. Yes. We were both switch. I'm like, how can I make this job easier? So it's like, like, how can we streamline this? I'm like, oh, boom.
A
So it's like there's. I was like. I was like. Because basically what I asked is like, how do they do it on the new. Like, the news isn't pre recorded, so there has to be a way. And somebody explains to me that there's this thing called a switcher which allows you to record all the cameras, but what's recorded is only the camera that is, like, focused. They're chosen at the time. And I was like, holy shit. So you're saying, like, by the end of the episode, we have a fully edited episode now Things have changed. Now we have to make some changes or edits or insert ads or blah, blah, blah. But there was a time where it was just. We were rifling off the ads during the IT and, And I was like, okay, wow, there's a piece of techn. This piece of technology that makes Alex's life way easier. Now I'm sure my brain immediately went like, okay, now that you have all that extra time, can we cut some clips from the pod and do like, you know, I didn't stop thinking about other things we could do, but it wasn't like, okay, now that your life is easier, can we pay you half as much as you used to make? Like, my, my feeling was like, yo, if we're going to be here for eight hours and we could turn this work into two, two hours. What can we do with the other six hours? Can we film a sketch? You know what I mean? Can we have a cool brainstorm session? Like, what. What game could we add to the pod that would make it better? That's kind of what I. My thing. But again, I don't run like a factory that makes zippers. Yeah, if you run a factory to make zippers. You're not trying to do creative.
B
Yeah, yeah. So it's interesting, guys. It's going to be some fun times ahead, bro.
C
It's very funny. We've switched. This is like now inside baseball shit. But we used to use a switcher that I was live switching all times. We don't do that anymore. I just rewatch the episode, cut it back down.
A
And this is interesting. It's because you can sometimes with the switcher, you'll be on a single on out and then Mark will say the most hilarious bit and you miss it. And then we miss it. And it's like our logic is essentially like the audience is gonna miss a really fun moment. Yeah. So Miles takes way more time to now, you know, figure that out. There are other versions that you could do that might be less time.
C
Like we could, but it's gotten faster, it's gotten better. And like, it's really good now that we don't miss that shit.
A
I think I like when I watch it, I'm like, ooh, these choices are really good. Because when you're switching in real time, it's hard. You don't know who's gonna talk. You never. And also miss every joke. You miss every joke because a lot of the times, like the joke that's funny is you say something and then someone has a quick witty response or you have a quick witty response to somebody else.
B
So I do the switcher and. And brilliant. And it almost feels like an instrument, like a music instrument. And it's like it's. My fingers are kind of like just attached to the. You're not even thinking about it, not even talking. And then I'm even thinking about getting
A
the reaction of the laugh. Yeah.
B
And like I cut to that and it's like it's not. I'm not thinking, I'm not trying. It's just like I'm talking and engaging in the conversation and my fingers are just doing so.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
But that's just something that.
C
Just Nice.
A
Yeah. That's another thing. It's like it needs to become. So. What is the term? Like rote. Cuz if you're thinking about switching. Yeah. You can't. And you're contributing. Yeah, yeah. You're cook.
B
Yeah. Yeah. Trust me, guys, I don't. Yeah. Imagine and processing audio and pulling stuff up on screen.
A
Not positive.
B
Yeah. It was difficult times.
A
Can you tell me what the White Lotus Season 4 cast and location revealed is?
B
Oh, I didn't really about that.
C
The location is the French riviera Oh,
A
I knew that was gonna happen. I love that.
C
There's some huge names in it. Give me Helena Bonham Carter.
B
Who's that?
C
That is Lestrange.
A
I love her.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
She's Bellatrix Lestrange from Harry Potter. Oh, Bellatrix.
B
Okay, okay, okay.
C
All right.
A
She's great. Who's a wife? She's married to Nightmare on Elm. Not Nightmare on Elm Street. Tim Burton. Isn't she married to Tim Burton? She's married to Freddy Krueger. No, no. Didn't he do some Halloween movie?
C
He did.
A
He's Christmas Nightmare.
C
He technically didn't direct it, but yes, you're right.
A
It's Nightmare Before Christmas.
C
He just wasn't directing.
A
Kumail is on there.
B
Can we see pictures? Cuz I don't know these names.
C
They apparently broke up. Yeah, Kumail's on it. Kumar Kumail, the Indian guy who was in the Marvel movie.
A
I think he's Pakistani.
C
Pakistani. My fault. I'll scrub that. Clean it up.
B
Oh, you gonna get going?
C
I would never. Max Greenfield. Oh, yeah, he's from New Girl.
A
New Girl. He's funny, that guy.
C
He's so good.
A
Yeah, he's funny. Who else? We got?
C
Sandra Bernhard.
B
Who's that?
A
Oh, she's an og.
C
Og.
A
Yeah, she's an og. You recognize it? That one?
B
Oh, okay. All right. So she's gonna be the pillow popper.
A
You kind of got a little 100. Who is the holdover? Because don't they bring one person from each.
C
Yeah, let me find that out.
B
Oh, yeah. Everybody died at the end, right?
A
No, they had the. Didn't the black chick whose son came. Didn't she live?
B
Oh, the, the.
A
The.
B
Yeah. Yes. Cuz she wasn't at that scene where everybody got shot up.
A
And didn't she make money off it too? Like. Oh, that was what happened. She was supposed to start a thing with the Asian dude. She was. And then she got paid and she was like, I gotta go. Like, that's the beauty of that show. It just shows you. Everybody's a piece of. Yeah, like, it's.
B
It's real.
A
It is. It is crazy, though. Like, I want to talk to the creator. Mike White, I think is his name. Yeah, Mike White I want to talk to. Because, like, as beautiful as the creation is, like, is the cost of that having, like, a cynical outlook on humanity.
C
You got to get him. He would be so fun on this pod.
A
He would be.
C
He's awesome.
A
Because he's also, like, obsessed with Survivor randomly.
C
Like, he was on it and I think he's on the 50th season.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
Wait, he's a cast member?
C
He was a cast member once.
B
Oh, wow.
A
But, like, because he loves the show,
B
you know, he was already, like, producing tv.
A
Yeah. I think was already in the industry. Right. Like, he was on the Celebrity Survivor.
C
He wrote the Jack Black movie School of Rock.
A
Oh, wow. Okay.
B
Okay.
A
But, yeah, again, so it's like, is this just a thing that he's good at, or is this kind of his outlook on humanity a bit where he's able to access the kind of the most selfish parts of our being, you know? And, like, what's the cost of that? It's like, you know how, like, cops always deal with people lying to them all day?
C
Yeah.
A
So, you know, there's like, a little distance sometimes when you're talking to one, even off, you know, off hours, like, if he's not working, it's still. Everybody's trying you. So I think. I imagine you start to see people as little pieces of shit.
B
Yeah.
A
Did you feel that way? A little bit.
B
A little bit. The older I get, I feel more that way.
A
Interesting.
B
Yeah, it sucks.
A
Yeah.
B
Can we try to, like, galvanize the audience to tag somebody like that and get them on the show?
A
Yeah, we need.
B
I've seen shows do that, and that shit works.
A
We got to do that. We need everybody telling Mike White, we need.
B
We need everybody please tag Mike White. I know it's kind of corny. I feel even kind of corny saying
A
that shit, but I don't feel corny.
B
No, that's. We would love to get him on a show.
A
He would just be a cool person to talk to. Like, what is. And how does he observe these groups? Like, the way he did those group agreements? Girls.
B
Yeah.
A
There was. There was three girls on last season and nailed it. And, like, he nailed it to the point.
B
White girls, yo.
A
He nailed it to the point that my wife would be watching it. And, like, it was a. It was a combination of laughter and also cringe in that. She goes, oh, my God. I have friends that do that same. Like, oh, this is how girls are.
C
Yeah.
A
You got to be, like, back from every girl.
B
It's like, either they were one of them or they know. Most of them said they know. Yeah, my friend.
A
None of them was. You wanted them, too.
C
I think having an obsession over reality TV makes you addicted to, like, reality TV only gets people who are, like, the most boisterous in their own country.
A
It's like, the worst. The worst parts of humanity.
B
Yeah.
C
And he's obsessed with it. He was on Amazing Race. He obviously, obviously if he's in those shows, he's watching them all. And he's a great fan of reality tv and reality TV is almost White Lotus dramatized and like those characters.
A
That's a great observation, Miles. Yeah, it's like reality TV specifically has gotten so good at casting the reality star and there are like qualities to it, right? It's like extreme emotional reactivity, manipulative and a lack of self awareness. So where like you can behave in a way that most of us would feel like was reprehensible without even really realizing it. Like you kind of feel pseudo justified in whatever you do, at least in the moment, you can't acknowledge it. And yeah, that's every character on that show. They feel completely justified in their bullshit.
B
It's funny, before we started recording, Shifty was explaining these Mormon bitches.
A
Oh tell me, tell me, tell me, bro.
B
Like I don't know if I could break it down, but we have shit
A
coming out come out.
B
It sounded like an episode of White Lotus the way he was breaking this shit down. He's like this fucking Mormon bitch is fucking this guy. Then she went on a Bachelor and then she was like pregnant and then immediately off the Bachelor went back to the guy she was fucking. That guy is fucking all her friends and some old lady or some shit like that. Like he was just. It was. It seems like a dope show and I don't even watch reality tv, but I'll get it a watch just son it is like it sounds like episode of White Loaded.
A
It is like you watch. No, so my wife was. I hate when guys do what I just did.
B
So.
A
Yes, yes, you I hate cuz like look, nobody does this with Game of Thrones. Nobody does it. Like it don't matter if your wife puts it on. If you watch it, you say you watch it. But when it comes with fun heated rivalry or the Mormon wives or any of these like Housewives shows, it's always yeah, my girl was watching it and then I took part.
B
Whatever he rally I. Yeah, I hope it's always the girl.
A
It's. It's. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is. Anyway, so the. I actually told my wife about this one. She was on her housewife and I was like, how are you not a son? I'm plugged into the Internet. What's up with you? I'm plugged into the Internet that bro.
B
Who are you?
A
I'm Andrew Cameron Schultz, the son of Larry Schultz. Larry, first of my name.
B
Larry would be upset. He'd be upset.
A
He might so. He might so. Oh, God. But yeah. So how you put your wife on to reality? Yo, look, look, look, look.
B
Great.
A
Look, look, it's son.
B
I got painted nails and I'll be shaved to you, brother.
A
Son. It's son. It's insanity. Because I had to, like, broach it. Like, she kept watching like, Real Housewives or Potomac or some shit, and I'm like. I'm like, oh. Because I knew she wasn't watching it. I was like, what's happening in that. That Mormon wives show? And she's like, oh, I haven't watched that one yet. And I was like, oh, word? Like, it's crazy. Like, Like, I'm trying. And she's like, yeah, I'm just not into it. And I'm like, it's so crazy. Like, I'm trying to.
B
Why are you trying to get. Get an audit?
A
Cuz I wanted to watch it, but I'm not trying to sit there, abandon my family, my two children, my wife, watching some disp. Taste like Fruity P. As you heard, all the.
B
Was hot on this. He's like, yo, you knew I want to give this one a watch.
A
They got some lookers. We're not going to lie.
B
Shifty said it's a bunch of baddies on that.
A
They got some now. Now you know why that lake is salty. You know what I mean? It's some lookers on the show. Show. But they're crazy.
B
They're crazy. So what is it about Mormonism drives you crazy? Because they're too, like, you got to be a certain way, and then they just blow up and become.
A
They're. These girls are all kind of Mormon. Culturally, too. Yeah, some are, like, Mormon about it, and then some are, like, culturally Mormon in the way that they're. They're like religious Jews and cultural Jews.
C
Yeah.
B
Okay.
A
It's not like Christians and cultures called. Like. Like, everybody in America is kind of culturally Christian. Like, we celebrate Christmas and that kind of. This is a little different. Like, their community is a little different. Like, they might not go about all the things, but they're not drinking. You know what I mean? They might not go to church, but they're. It's just.
B
But I heard these girls is like,
A
they're not rejecting it. They're not. Not all of them are rejecting it.
B
Oh, really?
A
Yeah, there's some baby mamas on there, but they're not all.
B
What I think is, like, you know how there was like, the church girl who was like, the.
A
Yeah. You're thinking that they're having their own Springer.
B
Yeah, but that's. Then it's like because they had to be repressed for so long, they became ultra sluts.
A
This. This show to me isn't about sluttiness.
B
It's about sleeping around is peeing on mouths.
A
And it's, it's. They're like married girls on it. It's a lack of R. Kelly without the. No, no, no, no, no. It's. I'm telling you, brother, it's a. A lack of shame. There is no. There is. There's a term in Spanish. I mean we have it too, but like sin Bena. Like, like my. My buddy would call me, like, why
B
they do that to me? Can I be the Puerto Rican nigga?
A
Nah.
B
Why you gotta out Spanish me? I ain't even.
A
Oh, you acknowledge the Spanish as white?
B
No, you just outspanish. Are you culturally appropriate? My culture boats are right here. You can't trust these guys.
A
My boy would always call me Sinber or Sinberguenza when I was living in Spain and he was a homie out there. And it was just cuz I. Because I was like, I would just do crazy. I was like, I wouldn't care. Like I wouldn't care. And still, still, still kind of there. These women are without shame or without embarrassment to an extreme. Like the girl got her pussy surgered up and like just showed the girl. Other girls and like the camera crew and the lights and the audio team is there but like they had to blur her pussy.
B
But I thought Mormonism is super buttoned up, super image, super perfect.
A
This is the thing that people get wrong. They're incredibly sexual just with the person you're married to. Once you're married, it's. It is divine to be.
B
Can they do an only fans with their husband?
A
I think that would be sharing it with other people.
C
Yeah.
A
Okay, but being into your husband and having crazy sex. But then some of them aren't talking
B
about this slutty they doing with their husband.
A
That's fine because it's not slutty. It's sex with the man that you are. You love.
B
I mean, well, talking about the sex with the man that you love, they're
A
way open, like too open.
B
But then they can't show it publicly.
A
No, they. They show.
B
But she showing a lips on.
A
Give me that.
B
No pussy lip.
A
Put the on n. Dude, it is so. It is like they are just wildly open caddy. None of them really seem like friends, but like they're connected through this Tik Tok. It's crazy.
B
Worth, like, I don't do reality tv, but it's this one worth it.
A
It's not. It's. You just watch the clips. You don't got to get into the stories. Just watch the clips.
B
Watch the clips. Okay.
A
It's. It's. The clips are worth it.
B
People send me the good clips because I don't even know where to start. I just know that was Fruity Pebble.
A
They throwing accusations on people. Dude. Like, a guy's a yo, I hit. And the girl confronts him like, you didn't hit. And then, like, we never find out.
B
And then, like, Shifty said some girl wrapped the wire around her dude's neck. They had to, like, cancel the season.
A
They got one shorty like today. Yeah, I think it was. Yeah, this. This. This girl. Shout out to. I think her manager is a fan of the show. Shout out to you. My bad. Yo, we want her on. Bring that little felon on here. She's.
C
She treat it like an insane asylum. Take her shoelaces away.
A
Shorty is bat. Shorty. He is bat crazy.
B
Miles is into the choking. He'll like it.
C
Also, you know what's funny is we're talking about. When you said he. She choked him with a. With a phone wire. I went old school. Like telephone.
A
That's what I thought. What's a phone wire?
C
Charger.
A
Hilarious.
C
I bet it's a charger house phones anymore.
A
And she did that to someone on the bed Bachelor.
B
No, to her dude.
C
Yeah, to her dude.
A
But isn't she on the Bachelor? She. Isn't she the new Bachelorette?
C
I know nothing about this. I just was making a point.
B
Shifty got to break it down. Telling you he was breaking that down. This Shifty shift.
C
Shifty's been gun shy on the camera and the talking.
B
Telling him you making everybody in this office you.
A
What I do.
B
They step here, you talk, and then they never want to get back in front of the camera anymore.
A
Damn, bro. I got to get better at that.
B
Yeah, you do, actually.
A
What did I. I'm just asking about this shot.
B
Great people here in the studio and they camera shy because of you.
A
I don't know if they're camera shy because of me. That might be other reasons.
B
You.
A
You might be wars happening in the world.
B
No politic.
C
No politic.
A
Okay. What is that?
B
No politics. No politics.
A
No politics. Secret Lies of Mormon wives pauses Season 5 filming due to domestic violence investigation into Taylor Frankie Paul and Dakota Moore Morton son Damn.
B
Crazy.
C
Crazy sucks, bro.
A
Hey, man, we want you on the pod.
B
Free Dakota. Stay up.
A
Yeah, free y'.
B
All. Free Dakota, but we'll take the other.
A
No, no, Dakota's the guy.
B
Yeah, he got his neck rang up.
A
He's free. The girl is locked up.
C
Al, you know how jail works.
B
I'm just saying, whenever a guy has to go through that.
A
I've dated a couple Latinas Charlemagne called Al a bailiff, and that kills. Why? Why even ask? Bailiff ass.
B
Look at your cute little bailiff over there.
A
Weren't you a bailiff?
B
I was a court officer. We went through the same big, bad bailiff.
A
The same. You were the bad guy in the court. Same.
B
Same procedure that every police officer has to go through.
A
Yo, but you were the bailiff about it, bro.
B
I was a court officer. Put some music shout out to my court office offices.
C
We got some breaking news, too.
A
What do we got? Breaking news. Morocco has been announced as AFCON winners with the final result overturned by cif. What does that mean? Senegal.
B
Why are we happy? What is this?
C
Cuz doves Moroccan.
A
Oh, no, go back, go back. That's right.
B
There was this.
A
Wait, what happened? I remember this story.
C
So there the Moroccan players were trying
A
to take the towel from the goalies.
C
There was, like, some contra controversy on air.
A
Yeah, they leave.
C
Senegal leaves.
A
They're like, no, this.
C
We're not doing this. They leave for 18 minutes and then they resume the game. So I assume that this panel saw that as forfeiting the match and gave it to Morocco.
A
So they got rewarded for their fans trying to rip the towels off the goalies. Yeah, they get.
C
They got rewarded because Senegal left the game in protest for an extended period
A
during the game is what I saw.
B
But then when they come back to Senegal win.
C
Yes.
B
You don't want that win.
A
Wasn't there something else?
B
That's a shitty win.
A
There was something else obscure about the.
B
Can we bring Dub in about this? He'll like this.
A
He don't know what's going on here.
B
He knows everything. Is there. Is these Moroccan Jews or just Moroccans?
A
Just Moroccans.
B
Oh, never mind.
C
Also, I do want to bring up that every time you guys give me some shine on the pod, which I really do appreciate, we end up talking about McDonald's, and I don't want that to be my.
B
My legacy. You jumped in on the McDonald's. Nobody said, hey, McDonald's. Hey, Miles. How you think about that?
C
We were talking about cereal, and then I get.
B
Just light up.
C
You get me all hyped up like
B
a kid on Christmas Day.
C
Yeah, you get me all hyped up. It's like McRib season.
A
Look, we don't care. Can we just be honest? We were trying to care here. We were trying to care about the Moroccan African Cup.
B
Give a.
A
We don't care about the African Cup.
C
Nope.
A
That's not what we care about.
B
Nope, nope.
A
African Cup. They don't put that in their bottom lip, You know? I know that's not Morocco. I know that's not Morocco. That's a different place. But you know what I'm talking about. We're just out here riffing. Yeah, we're just out here riffing.
B
Just like. I don't care about the Spanish baseball league.
A
Go.
B
At all.
A
Exactly.
C
Spanish.
A
The World Baseball Classic.
C
Yeah.
B
Only people who care about it.
A
Spanish people is Dominicans. That care.
B
Dominicans and Puerto Ricans. That's the only two people that care. And the Central America and South America, they love it.
A
They love it. Americans love it. The Italians love it.
B
Americans.
A
We don't give a. The Japanese love it.
B
Do they? The finals tonight, But Americans don't give a. You. I heard the coach up like he. Like he did something right. Can you.
A
You break it down?
C
He thought that they had already advanced into the knockout round, and they didn't.
A
So Italy beat them, and then Italy
C
had to win their next game for the U.S. to advance or they would have been knocked out of the group stage.
A
And then they lost, and then Italy
C
ended up winning, which still brought the US into there, but the US Went into it with the assumption after three games that they had automatically qualified.
B
So he thought they clinched, so he put the B squad in hilarious just to give everybody some playing time.
C
And then we almost lost.
A
Yeah, we're not taking Got drunks.
B
Yeah, we not taking this.
A
We got to lock in, boys. We don't get to lock in.
C
We're playing Venezuela.
A
All right. Get on their neck like Taylor, Frankie pole. You get him. He would be on their neck like a Mormon wife. Okay. Shout out my girl. Taylor, Frankie. Paul. This girl is bat, let me tell you.
B
But in a good way, right? Cuz we want her to pot.
A
I can't confirm that, but, bro.
B
But we want her to pod though, right?
A
I think it would be an entertaining. Look at her. Look at her. Tell me that's not a shift.
B
Oh, she got crazy eyes, but she's beautiful.
A
It's like that's not a shit full of bat right there, my boy.
B
I can't even go to another. Sorry.
A
I can't even go to another p. Sweet Woman.
B
Yeah. I can't even say.
A
Tell me. Tell me I'm lying when I say that. She's a shit full of bat.
B
She's like, you not. And we know how to spell.
A
Oh, a bat full of shits, Y'. All. That's a shit full of bat.
B
That's a full of b.
A
Look at her. Look at her.
C
Look at her.
A
She crazy. Yes, but you know it's grippy.
B
You know it's grippy back in the day.
A
You know it's grippy. You know it's grippy.
B
The crazier the eyes, the better. Come on.
A
The better what?
B
Just the better.
A
It's just the better the grip.
B
Grip.
A
What is that grip?
B
Like we stop. She's a married woman.
A
You ever seen them wide receiver gloves?
B
You ever seen
A
she got a grip like Alex?
B
Yo, get her. Get up on the screen.
A
Come on, come on, come on.
B
Married woman. She's a married.
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She's not married.
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She not.
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She not. I'm a married man.
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Yeah, I'm just not married.
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She's crazy, but she's not married. No. That's why she was going to be on the Bachelor.
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Oh, so fuck this bitch.
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No speak like that. Nah, I don't.
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But in a good way. Fuck this bitch in a good way.
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Al.
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Just got to interpret it good, Al. It's like black women call other girls bitches. And it's like, good.
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That's my bitch. You gonna blame black women. Fuck.
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Damn it.
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Or you are a black woman. Your two options in this situation.
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I'm to trying trance. The fingernails. Get me out of this. Get me out of this.
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Charlemagne said the only way Timmy Shalam can win an Oscar is if he does the Caitlyn Jenner biopic.
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Boom.
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Yeah.
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Why does he love. Just take it down.
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Oh, the white boy's with motion, right? Oh, you got. He loves that.
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That.
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He loves it. Don't come in the Breakfast Club with no motion, white boys. Nah.
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We need you on the pod crazy.
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Come on now. This is a mom with crazy grip. Mom with crazy grip.
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Okay, Crazy Grip, we need you. That's your name now.
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Crazy Grip. Miles, you were the one that brought it up to me. The grip was so dizzy.
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Alone is so funny. Well, there's no one else to help.
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Miles told me she took the the lug nuts off a wheel bare handed. She said, Ma says she changed the tire bare handed.
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She went.
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Said the grip was that crazy.
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You need your tire change, Colt.
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She said the grip was that crazy.
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Oh, I just hurt my dick.
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Good man. You need something to grip that up. You got to get your girl to grip that up.
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Y.
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It does confirm that's a respectful thing.
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Yeah, I guess it is.
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Nothing disrespectful about our girls gripping. With all due respect.
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All due respect.
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We're not going to sit here and say that our girls don't grip. With all due respect.
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Nah. Grip us.
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You know what I mean? Grip us.
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Everybody loves Chase Infinity. What the fuck is that?
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She's an actress from one battle after or another, is she not?
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Yes.
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Yeah. Beautiful.
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I thought you talk about a credit card.
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Al hates black women, bro. Dead ass hates black women.
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Chase got a new credit card that everybody loves.
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I was like, what's the points? Can I get corporate points? Yo, can we just celebrate black women for one second, bro?
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She's black.
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And the podcast. This guy. She's black and your girl's white.
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No, this looks like Kylie Jenner.
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Well, that's what they going for, right? Isn't that.
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No, no. Stop it. Stop it.
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You don't. Oh, guys, stop. Now we get. We've gotten too horny. Everybody stop. Stop. Stop it.
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Whoa.
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Stop being disrespectful.
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Academy Award.
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There you go. Put. Bring the sandlock.
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God damn.
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Bring up sandlock. Sandlock.
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Kid.
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That's not sandlot.
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Yes, it is.
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Pitcher got a big butt.
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Pitcher got a big butt.
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Who's that?
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That's sandlot Miles. You don't.
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You never. Shane, he's not sandlot. No. You're telling me that's not the catcher from the sandlot?
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That is. No, Miles is definitely Son. That is definitely him. You don't know you're white.
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See, you're right. You're right. You're very.
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Yeah, I think that that's. Is that not hima Patrick Rena. Is that not the same person?
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No. Yes. He got the oic.
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Wow, dude.
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But can we go back to Chase? I want that card.
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Ow. You have.
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You have a.
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A. A married woman of color at your house right now. I want to get into this podcast.
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I want to Chase Infinity card.
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There is no such thing.
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Yes, there is. It gives you all the points. All the points.
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No, it is not. You trying to give her a point?
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No, no, no. Three times when you buy restaurants and shit.
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No, stop. You're being disrespectful.
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Who is this? I've never seen her ever.
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Did you not see one battle after another?
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Yes, but she was in it.
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I can't do a podcast with you anymore.
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Oh, that's the main bitch.
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God damn. Ow. What am I saying wrong? You can't call black women that. That's the word.
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No, I can, but it's endearing. It's like, my nigga,
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Wrap up the pod and the pot because I can't talk anymore. What's going on? We'll see you guys on Patreon. Man.
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She's an amazing actress.
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If you think we're brilliant, Patreon.
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Release Date: March 18, 2026
This episode finds the Flagrant crew, primarily Andrew Schulz and AlexxMedia, holding down the studio with Akaash and Mark away. They riff on pop culture drama affecting "white boys with motion" (i.e., Jack Harlow, Timothée Chalamet), racial dynamics in entertainment, award season gripes, and get into the wild world of Mormon reality TV. The conversation is as irreverent, playful, and boundary-pushing as ever, with hot takes on music, acting, AI, American society, and cereal preferences.
This episode is a rollercoaster of comedy, candid social observation, and pop culture inside baseball—a must-listen for fans of iconoclastic humor that also manages to sneak in moments of keen insight. If you want to know where the culture wars, AI anxiety, and the mysteries of Mormon wives meet, this is your pod.