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Hosted by Kevin Kelly · EN
Kevin Kelly interviews artists, entrepreneurs and creative thinkers who have found success outside the mainstream.
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019 - Tyler Davis
Mar 25, 202001:46:16Tap to summarizeTai Davis is the founder and owner of Aether, Alchemy Bakery and Sacred Geometry. tai-davis.com @iofthetyler 7:00 - Intro 11:45 - Inter-disciplinarian 15:15 - Growing up as a nomad 18:00 - Leaving the church & religion 26:30 - Learning the cello 31:00 - Burnout with young musicians 35:00 - Going away to college at 15 39:00 - Working while going to school 40:45 - Working in assisted living & learning to cook 47:30 - Entrepreneurs aren’t better, just different - 50:15 - Culinary ARTS 53:00 - Being resourceful 58:00 - Having faith in yourself 59:15 - Average day 1:06:30 - Making lists 1:11:00 - Meditation 1:14:00 - Alchemical Healing 1:18:00 - Maintaining mental health 1:20:45 - The isolation of being a chef 1:22:00 - Making a change - 1:24:30 - Recent projects & TV appearances 1:31:00 - Food Photography 1:32:45 - Self-publishing 1:37:00 - Do your own research 1:42:00 - Throwing yourself into projects 1:43:30 - Outro
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Jan 30, 202001:25:30Tap to summarizeKevin Lemp is the Founder of 4 Hands Brewing Company and 1220 Spirits 4handsbrewery.com 1220spirits.com @4handsbrewingco 5:00 - Intro 6:15 - Forbes Articles 7:00 - “We’re no longer a brewery.” 10:15 - Working at Gallo Winery 11:45 - First craft beer experience 13:45 - There’s less loyalty to beer brand right now 14:30 - City Wide is 4 Hand’s most successful beer 17:15 - 8 Years ago, 1,400 breweries. Today there are over 8,000 - 18:45 - College years 19:30 - Early career 23:00 - Learning by observing 24:00 - Making a business plan 25:00 - Putting in his notice 28:00 - STL Brewery “Class of 2011” 31:45 - Meeting Josh Rowan 33:15 - Bringing Nick Kanter on board 34:15 - Getting first draft line at Blueberry Hill 35:30 - Inch wide, mile deep approach 37:00 - Breaking into new markets - 42:00 - The Anheuser Busch influence 43:45 - Bitter Brew 46:30 - Important growth markers in 4 Hands success 52:00 - Ego free company 54:00 - Dealing with the Schlafly conflict 54:30 - Drama 56:00 - Women Who Whiskey charity 56:45 - Battle in the market, come together for philanthropy with UCBC - 58:30 - Ballast Point Story 1:02:15 - Anti-nepotism 1:04:00 - Be polite and work hard 1:06:30 - It’s good to struggle 1:09:00 - What 2020 will bring 1:11:00 - Chasing trends vs. Originality 1:13:00 - The seltzer boom 1:14:30 - What’s the next step? 1:17:30 - Scratch Brewing 1:18:00 - Narrow Gauge Brewery 1:19:30 - Excited for St. Louis 1:23:00 - Outro
Transcribe →017 - Tom Hück
Jan 16, 202002:06:06Tap to summarizeTom Hück is an American Print Warlord http://evilprints.com @evilprints 9:00 - Intro 12:30 - Can’t stand not working 14:00 - Prince’s death making work more urgent 17:00 - Getting into an online fight over John Singer Sargent 18:30 - Kelley Walker CAM controversy - Tom’s article/response 20:10 - Real life rules don’t apply to art 22:00 - The fucking banana duct-taped to the wall 24:40 - “I like athleticism in art.” 26:00 - On Banksy 28:15 - The art world sucks 30:00 - Great art is a marriage of concept & technique 32:30 - Traveling as a youth and seeing art 36:15 - Looking for porn and finding the Tower of London - 40:00 - Growing up in Potosi, Missouri 43:00 - Taking college art classes in high school 48:30 - Finding his style & content 52:00 - Making woodcut prints about his hometown 52:30 - Driving around and selling his work to a museum 53:30 - Story about receiving negative feedback at 12 years old 58:00 - Getting revenge 9 years later 1:03:15 - You can find something good in every shitty piece of art 1:06:15 - Build your life around the art, not the other way around - 1:07:30 - Landfall Press 1:11:45 - Teaching 1:12:30 - First commercial gig working on The Roots “Phrenology” 1:15:00 - Figuring out what to charge 1:18:00 - Speed & whiskey 1:23:00 - Influencing the printmaking world 1:26:00 - The Outlaw Printmakers 1:31:30 - Viewing art in person 1:33:30 - Art is hard to make 1:35:00 - Van Gogh’s suicide 1:40:00 - Catching Tom’s NYC Electric Baloneyland show in 2017 1:45:30 - Archive of work coming out 1:46:30 - Making more affordable work 1:52:00 - Grafik House 1:58:00 - Living in/near Potosi now 2:03:00 - Outro
Transcribe →016 - David Choi
Dec 30, 201902:12:04Tap to summarizeDavid Choi is the owner of Seoul Taco. http://seoultaco.com @davidchoistl 5:00 - Intro 10:00 - How we met 10:30 - Little Saigon 13:00 - Hip Hop 17:00 - Working in a baseball card shop 18:30 - Skipping school to get celebrity autographs 22:45 - Getting asked to speak at his high school 27:15 - Growing up in the church 29:00 - Figuring out how/when to work for your self 32:15 - Working for yourself out of necessity 33:30 - Immigrant entrepreneurs 37:00 - Roy Choi - 39:30 - Working 3-4 jobs at once 45:00 - Cooking at friend’s parties 47:00 - Finishing college 52:15 - Paying it forward with friends 54:30 - Supportive friends vs. Haters 58:30 - Giving & receiving feedback - 1:02:45 - Buying the first food truck for $18,000 1:08:00 - The first food trucks in St. Louis 1:09:45 - First run at Food Truck Friday 1:11:45 - First Seoul Taco location 1:13:00 - Second location 1:16:00 - Staying fresh with growing popularity 1:22:45 - Growing up without internet 1:26:45 - Opening up in another market 1:32:15 - Columbia, MO location 1:35:15 - Chicago locations 1:40:45 - Employee Management 1:42:00 - People freak out too much 1:42:30 - Streetwear collabs 1:45:00 - Collaboration “fever” 1:47:45 - Not caring vs. Not letting things get to you 1:49:00 - Sports talk 1:52:30 - What’s happening in 2020 1:59:00 - Continuing to learn 2:06:00 - Outro
Transcribe →015 - Michael Frachetti
Dec 10, 201902:01:32Tap to summarizeMichael Frachetti is a Professor of Anthropology at Washington University in St. Louis. His current projects include studies of medieval Silk Road cities of Uzbekistan and ancient maritime trade throughout SE Asia and Indian Ocean. https://artsci.wustl.edu/faculty-staff/michael-frachetti @mdfrachetti 4:00 - Intro 7:00 - Contemporary value of information 9:00 - Real deal facts vs. Audience-friendly content 11:20 - Authenticity of Wikipedia 14:00 - It takes forever to fact check now 16:45 - Knowing how to talk to people 18:45 - Older generations strive for a longer childhood for their children 22:30 - Captain Fantastic 23:00 - The Tech Age 25:00 - There’s no more remoteness 32:00 - Generational differences 33:15 - Instagram over-saturation 36:30 - Getting too “preachy” on captions 38:00 - What should social media be used for? - 49:00 - Growing up with martial arts 50:00 - Seven Samurai 55:00 - Meeting his archaeology mentor 59:00 - Geographical Information Systems defined 1:03:45 - Focusing on nomads 1:15:00 - What is the purpose of Archaeology? 1:17:00 - Re-contextualizing data from the perspective of different identities 1:21:00 - Redefining what “civilization” means 1:24:30 - Doug North on Institutions 1:26:00 - Similarities between the lived experience in individuals 1:29:00 - Audience for his new book 1:31:30 - David Wengrow 1:33:30 - The Utopian Paradox TEDx Talk - 1:39:00 - Shifting focus after publishing 1:44:00 - Does popularity affect findings in archaeology? 1:49:30 - Upside and downside of Guns, Germs & Steel 1:51:00 - Michael Pollan 1:52:00 - Developing writing skills 1:55:00 - Nuance is necessary 1:58:00 - Outro
Transcribe →014 - Jon Wheatley
Dec 4, 201902:25:51Tap to summarizeJon Wheatley is a Product Designer & Founder. He’s currently working on launching a new social media platform @Stopwatch https://jonw.com @jon 6:00 - Intro 7:00 - Moving back to St. Louis 15:00 - Why I'm Moving My Business from San Francisco to St. Louis 18:30 - ArchGrants 22:00 - Going into Y Combinator 23:45 - Starting DailyBooth in 2009 28:30 - Judging Y Combinator applications 35:00 - Favorite American city 42:30 - Investors in DailyBooth 46:30 - Getting “banned” from America 54:00 - Using a telepresence robot for a year 58:30 - DailyBooth winding down - 1:01:00 - Starting up Peel 1:04:00 - Doing his own fulfillment 1:06:00 - Good & bad of transparency 1:10:30 - Pitfalls of a Kickstarter campaign 1:14:30 - Other Need/Want Projects 1:20:30 - Managing time & projects - 1:23:30 - Stopwatch 1:26:00 - Launching a “social network” in 2019 1:28:00 - How Stopwatch works 1:32:45 - Join the Private Beta 1:36:30 - Stopwatch business model 1:41:30 - Moderating & Censorship 1:48:00 - The grimey tech of ‘Prospect’ 1:51:00 - Influenced by old ideas of the future 1:56:00 - Algorithms & Moderation 2:04:00 - Bruce Mau 2:07:30 - Making slingshots / Dead Eye Club 2:12:45 - White House trip 2:21:00 - Outro
Transcribe →013 - Bob Brazell
Nov 19, 201902:02:30Tap to summarizeBob Brazell is the Chef & Co-owner of Byrd & Barrel and Tamm Avenue Bar. He’s currently working on re-opening The Tenderloin Room at The Chase Park Plaza. @byrdbarrelstl 2:00 - Intro 8:00 - Athlete Eats 10:30 - Finding the Byrd & Barrel building 12:00 - Having good partners 14:00 - Owning restaurants is entrepreneurship on steroids 16:15 - Dealing with depression 18:00 - Desire to work in food & hospitality 22:00 - Restarting his life & going to culinary school 24:15 - Working at Monarch with Josh Galliano 25:30 - Working at Niche with Gerard Craft 29:00 - Asking a question and writing a paper 30:30 - Generational differences in workers 35:00 - Being a positive influence 36:30 - Working with his fiancee 39:00 - Social media & City Hall 45:00 - There needs to be a chef/restaurant alliance - 47:00 - Finding his business partners 52:30 - Roles in the partnership 55:30 - Why fried chicken? 57:30 - Importance of keeping the drive-thru 1:00:30 - Getting into the Enterprise Center 1:04:00 - Working on the Tenderloin Room 1:07:30 - The myth of the chef 1:09:00 - Rick Lewis 1:14:00 - Be your brand 1:16:00 - Taking over an established business 1:29:30 - Old school cool coming back in fashion 1:31:30 - Social media for businesses now 1:36:15 - Soft opens 1:37:30 - Receiving feedback 1:47:00 - Maturing as a business owner 1:55:30 - Business highlights 1:59:00 - Outro
Transcribe →012 - Matt Murphy
Nov 17, 201902:51:38Tap to summarizeMatt Murphy is a producer/videographer focused on maintaining productivity while raising a family. @dekkoinc 8:00 - How we know each other 13:30 - Reading 17:30 - What Matt does 23:00 - First job 27:00 - Learning software on the fly 30:30 - Troubleshooting & failure 32:30 - Building his business 36:00 - Getting connected with Tony Robbins 38:00 - What he specifically does at a Tony event 43:30 - Working on “non-flashy” clients 45:30 - Educating clients on video content 48:00 - Society’s attention span influencing work 54:00 - How he’s expanded in his niche field 58:00 - Getting beyond the negatives of motivational speakers 1:00:00 - Herbalife and MLM’s being annoying 1:05:00 - Separating work and beliefs 1:07:00 - Realizing the importance of money at a young age 1:12:00 - Getting his kids to save money - 1:18:00 - Developing a pilot for a tv show 1:21:00 - Funding the initial production 1:25:00 - Editing the pilot 1:29:00 - Abandoning the project 1:52:30 - Time is our most valuable currency 1:36:00 - The ineptitude of Corporate America 1:38:20 - Vacations when working full-time vs. working for yourself 1:40:00 - Workplace efficiency 1:44:30 - Investing 1:46:15 - Preparing for the next recession - 1:51:00 - Recording adventure travelogues 1:57:00 - The human element of resorts & cruises 2:04:15 - Matt’s “escape” from Zambia 2:09:30 - Love/hate of India 2:13:30 - Eating & getting sick while traveling 2:15:30 - Beating jetlag 2:21:15 - Getting enough sleep 2:24:00 - Diversifying 2:28:20 - David Goggins 2:35:00 - The inherent selfishness of success 2:39:00 - Balancing humility vs. confidence 2:45:00 - Outro
Transcribe →011 - Michael Franco
Nov 9, 201901:45:23Tap to summarizeMichael Franco is a music and pizza maker on the south side of St. Louis. michaelfranco.bandcamp.com @mpfranco 5:00 - What we’re trying to do 6:00 - Current state of NBA 12:45 - Lebron James 14:00 - CTE influencing NFL viewership 16:30 - Under promoting good movies 18:30 - Prank calling thru deaf-relay website 23:00 - Lebron & China 28:30 - Hong Kong protests - 35:00 - Kanye finding Jesus 39:00 - Jesus is King 41:00 - Evangelical vs. Catholicism 48:00 - Kanye, etc. 52:00 - Songs & Albums becoming shorter 58:00 - Virgil x IKEA drop - 59:30 - Things that you don’t know how to process that you end up loving 1:04:15 - Epstein didn’t kill himself 1:07:00 - Zeitgeist & becoming a skeptic 1:09:30 - Is Franco a truther? 1:12:00 - Applying stoicism to your skepticism - 1:16:00 - Benioff & Weiss leaving Star Wars 1:19:00 - Apple+ vs. Netflix vs. HBO 1:24:00 - Airpods as status symbol? 1:27:30 - L. Ron Hubbard & Scientology 1:32:30 - Joseph Smith and Mormonism 1:36:00 - Recap 1:38:00 - Outro
Transcribe →010 - Mike Spakowski
Nov 6, 201901:29:09Tap to summarizeMike Spakowski is Partner and Creative Director at Atomicdust – A Branding and Marketing Agency. www.atomicdust.com @mspako 6:00 - What I’ve learned 13:30 - Upcoming guests 19:00 - Mike’s year so far 21:15 - Working together on Tempus 23:30 - Dressing up to fly 25:00 - Meeting the Mayors of St. Louis 32:00 - Creative community not active 34:45 - Kanye, Jesus is King & “badly” designed merch - 43:00 - Becoming better at podcasts 46:00 - Austin Kleon 49:30 - Making writing a habit 54:00 - Stephen King 56:00 - A24 Films - 58:00 - Fine Art & Design 1:02:30 - Historicity defined 1:04:00 - Graphic Design as a trade vs. art form 1:10:30 - Tom Townsend 1:18:00 - Anheuser Busch history 1:20:30 - DC Trip highlights 1:26:00 - Outro
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