Transcript
A (0:05)
Good morning. It's Monday, December 1st. I'm Shemitah Basu. This is Apple News today. On today's show, as more details emerge about the National Guard shooting, President Trump shuts down all asylum routes to the U.S. the winter storms causing havoc for holiday travel. And what really happens to those Black Friday purchases? You're returning, But first to a Washington Post story that's drawn major scrutiny to the US Military and recent orders by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth as questions grow over the US Strategy in the Caribbean. The Post reports that Hegseth issued an order back in September to kill all crew members aboard a suspected drug smuggling vessel after an initial strike. A drone feed showed two survivors clinging to wreckage. Then, according to the Post, officials carried out another strike to kill them, too, something the administration never publicly acknowledged at the time. It was the first incident in what's now been a string of US Strikes on boats in the region, which have killed more than 80 people to date. Alex Horton is a national security reporter at the Washington Post who broke the story with his colleague, the Joint Special.
B (1:23)
Operations Command commander Admiral Bradley, with Hegseth's orders in mind, made a determination based on the idea that these men could still call some of their colleagues to come pick them up and pick up the drugs and therefore were still viable targets. He ordered another strike to comply with Hegseth's order to kill everyone.
A (1:47)
Since this reporting came out, Republican Senator and Chairman of the Armed Services Committee Roger Wicker, along with Democratic Senator Jack Reid, have vowed to conduct vigorous oversight to determine the facts of the case. Hegseth has continued to say that operations in the Caribbean have been lawful, and he dismissed the reporting in general terms as, quote, fabricated, though the Pentagon didn't directly answer the Post's questions. But some ethics experts say this alleged follow up strike would constitute a war crime, even in a situation where the US Were definitively at war with drug traffickers. Horton told us that if the alleged traffickers were seen as combatants, you must.
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Follow this sort of conduct and protect people who cannot fight back or defend themselves, such as the case of shipwrecked combatants. The other side of the coin is if they're not combatants, then this is unlawful killing or murder, these experts say. So that's where we're at is like which one of these definitions is true.
A (2:47)
Even before this reporting, some lawmakers were already questioning the legality of the bombing campaign in the Caribbean, where Horton said that many Congress members have described the few briefings they've received from the administration as unsatisfactory. Yesterday, Republican Representative Mike Turner, former chair of the House Intelligence Committee, was asked about this on CBS's Face the Nation and he said if the Post's reporting was accurate it would constitute an illegal act.
