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Gideon Resnick
Good morning. It's Friday, August 8th. I'm Gideon Resnick in for Shumita Basu. This is Apple News today. On today's show, construction is halted at a controversial detention site. The divisions over harm reduction policies for drug use and why Americans have soured on orange juice. But first to the Middle east, where Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that he intends for Israel to seize control of the entire Gaza Strip. He made his announcement in a Fox News interview. Will Israel take control of all of Gaza?
David Ovalle
We intend to, in order to assure our security, remove Hamas there, enable the population to be free of Gaza and to pass it to civilian governance.
Gideon Resnick
Later, Israel's security cabinet approved a plan to take over Gaza City after an hours long meeting. According to Netanyahu's office, a broader takeover would be a major escalation, one that defies the popular opinion of Israeli voters, parts of Netanyahu's own military and much of the international community. Netanyahu said temporary full control of the Strip was the only way to liberate the people of Gaza. But the UN said the move could have catastrophic consequences. Alexander Cornwell, who covers the region for Reuters, told us what he knew about Netanyahu's proposals.
Alexander Cornwell
Netanyahu has said publicly that he does not want to govern Gaza. He wants to hand it over to some kind of civil administration that would involve other Arab states. How exactly that would work is not clear. His main condition is that Hamas has no involvement.
Gideon Resnick
Full occupation would require an enhanced military presence and mass evacuations. But Palestinians have few places left to go and any increased military presence could have major humanitarian consequences. Over 60,000 Palestinians have died since the war began, according to the local health ministry. And the World Health Organization has recently said that almost 12,000 children under five in Gaza are suffering from acute malnutrition.
Alexander Cornwell
So Reuters were speaking to some Palestinians on Thursday ahead of the security Cabinet meeting. And some of them living in Gaza City said they're not moving. They have moved before multiple times and they've had enough. And there's this sort of sense of feeling of, well, if I'm going to die, I'm going to die in my home, as bleak as that sounds. And the question is, where does the population go?
Gideon Resnick
Netanyahu is under massive domestic pressure to secure the release of the remaining hostages. There are about 50 or so still being held by Hamas, around 20 of which are believed to still be alive. On Wednesday, there were large scale protests in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem calling for an immediate end to the war. The families of some of the Hostages also protested, believing that further escalation would put their loved ones at greater risk.
Alexander Cornwell
Now, the military at times has avoided operating in certain areas of Gaza that believed hostages were being held and captives that have been released. Hostages that have been released have said that they were told by the people holding them, their captors, that they would kill them if Israeli forces approached.
Gideon Resnick
The IDF's military chief is opposed to the move, partly on these grounds, and Israeli media has reported him as saying it would, quote, drag Israel into a black hole. But Netanyahu has dismissed that advice.
Alexander Cornwell
The messaging that we're getting is that the prime minister believes that the military effort has so far failed to secure the release of all the hostages, but to circle back. Most of them had been freed through diplomatic negotiations and not by military force or not by military operations.
Gideon Resnick
Cornwell told us, that this occupation would have to be achieved over a period of months, not least because the Israeli military is so stretched. It's also possible, he said, that this could be a ploy to force a negotiated ceasefire deal in Netanyahu's favor. But right now, those talks are at an impasse.
Alexander Cornwell
Hamas has said repeatedly it would end the war. It would release all the hostages and would have no further role in administration Gaza and hand over to a some kind of technocratic independent administration. But that would require Israel to withdraw. Israel counters and says Hamas is not genuine and we must defeat it and make sure that it can never come back.
Gideon Resnick
The Gaza Strip is recognized by the UN and the International Court of Justice as part of the Palestinian territories, and any seizure of territory on this scale would likely breach international law. It was a busy week of legal developments at the Florida detention facility known as Alligator Alcatraz. Yesterday, a federal judge ordered construction to stop for two weeks after hearing testimony from conservation and tribal groups who argued the facility violates environmental protection laws. It was hastily built and opened in a matter of days by the state on a federally protected nature preserve. The Trump administration requested it in response to overcrowding at ICE facilities amid rising detention numbers. And Florida's Governor Ron DeSantis invoked emergency powers that allowed the state to bypass the standard environmental review process. Meanwhile, there have been widespread reports of inhumane conditions. NPR senior immigration correspondent Jasmine Garsd spoke to us about the situation in Florida after talking with families of detainees.
Jasmine Garsd
I am getting reports of people who are detained, who have gone a day without eating, who have been sleeping on the floor for weeks, insect infested cells and communicable disease, and reports of no air conditioner.
Gideon Resnick
Governor DeSantis has denied the reports of conditions inside the facility. The Department of Homeland Security has accused detainees of complaining, but the administration has made it clear they want this facility to be a blueprint that's replicated across other states. In fact, just this week, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem announced that DHS is partnering with Indiana to build a new facility to expand detention capacity. There's. And she said that other sites are being considered in Arizona, Nebraska and Louisiana. Gars told us that if the Florida model is followed, it could be worrisome.
Jasmine Garsd
I think if there's one thing that I have learned from weeks being in Florida is the expansion of this detention machinery and detention industry with very little accountability about who is going in and how they are being treated when they're in.
Gideon Resnick
Across the country, the number of detentions is rising far faster than the rate of deportations. The detention system is over capacity by at least 13,500 people. And Garz says that the number of detainees with no criminal records is also rising.
Jasmine Garsd
There's close to 60,000 people in detention right now, and around 72% don't have a criminal record.
Gideon Resnick
And she says she's hearing a lot of concern about federal immigration enforcement tactics, and not only from migrant families.
Jasmine Garsd
From what I can see from the polls and from interviewing people who voted for this, in many cases, it's not part of their political landscape for masked agents and unmarked cars to pick people up. I sense from conversations with Trump supporters behind closed doors that there's a deep, deep discomfort with how this is playing out.
Gideon Resnick
If you're listening to the news app, stick around after today's show. Jasmine Garsd was Shamita's guest this week on Apple News in conversation where they discussed where Trump's immigration crackdown is heading next, let's turn to the way in which the Trump administration is looking to change how states and local areas combat the overdose epidemic by pulling support for a public health approach referred to as harm reduction. Harm reduction tactics are used to help people with drug addictions without necessarily involving abstinence. They can include providing overdose reversal medications like naloxone, sterile needles for injections, and test strips for fentanyl. In a recent executive order targeting unhoused people, Trump singled out harm reduction and safe consumption as things that facilitate illegal drug use. The order specifically seeks to bar any federal funding from going to safe consumption efforts.
David Ovalle
There's only three of them operating in the United States as government sanctioned facilities.
Gideon Resnick
David Ovalle covers addiction and health for the Washington Post.
David Ovalle
This is basically somewhere where someone can go and use their own illicit drugs under the supervision of someone that has Narcan there that knows how to revive them if they overdose.
Gideon Resnick
Critics argue these facilities fuel crime and public drug use, and a Democratic Council member in Philadelphia told the Post she was against the proposed local overdose prevention center. The administration says they keep people tracked in cycles of addiction and that federal money would be better spent on educational and community programs aimed at preventing drug use.
David Ovalle
And there's some thought that some of the more progressive harm reduction groups have really gone too far with the messaging of drug use being acceptable and there shouldn't be any stigma attached to it.
Gideon Resnick
But the early research into overdose prevention centers has shown promising results. According to the National Institutes of Health, these facilities are associated with less public drug use, crime does not seem to rise, and they help to reduce demand on local healthcare and emergency services.
David Ovalle
It's also seen as a way to get people in the door, get drug users connected to care, wound care, healthcare and rehab if they want to do that.
Gideon Resnick
Even before Trump's order, by law, federal dollars were not allowed to be used to directly fund these facilities, and they couldn't be used to purchase supplies like syringes. But the order also mentions reviews into drug production sites to look for evidence of distributing drug paraphernalia. That phrase has not yet been properly defined, but it could mean that grants for a much broader number of facilities could be pulled if they provide certain services that fall under this category. Groups involved in harm reduction services worry that Trump's order is a sign of bigger moves to come at the federal level. It promises to end funding for programs that fail to achieve adequate outcomes, but does not define how it will measure the performance of these programs. And harm reduction groups worry the order could inspire states to slash their funding as well.
David Ovalle
There's the fear from a lot of groups that anything with harm reduction in the title, anything with harm reduction as sort of a brand of services might get defunded strictly because harm reduction is now sort of a bad word. In the same way diversity, equity and inclusion has become for this administration.
Gideon Resnick
The administration does support federal funds going to some harm reduction initiatives, like test strips for fentanyl and providing naloxone. But within the federal Substance Abuse and Mental Health Administration, officials have been asked to review online documents and Web pages that mention harm reduction to consider editing or removing them. And multiple pages have been taken down. And that agency sent guidance to states last week saying in part that harm reduction is being used to advocate for policies that are incompatible with federal laws. Before we let you go A few other stories we're following Colleges and universities that receive federal funding will be required to give admissions data on race after President Trump signed a memorandum yesterday. The administration says they want the data to see if schools are preferencing race in the admissions process. That follows a 2023 Supreme Court decision that largely banned affirmative action. Any college or university that participates in the federal student loan program is already required to give the government certain data pertaining to financial aid, enrollment and graduation rates. This move would push universities to report details about who applies as well. Turning to sports, some history will take place tomorrow in the world of Major League Baseball. Jen Powell will make her major league debut as an umpire, making her the first woman to be an umpire in a regular season game in the league's history. She's been a minor league umpire since 2016 and once played softball at Hofstra University. The move comes 28 years after the NBA broke the gender barrier with game officials by having Violet Palmer ref a game. Powell will work a doubleheader this weekend in her introduction to Major League Baseball. And finally Advertisers once called it sunshine in a glass, and it was synonymous with warning off colds and boosting your vitamin C. But America is souring on orange juice. The Washington Post reports that this once ubiquitous staple of American fridges has been declining in popularity in recent decades. They attribute it in part to a growing realization that it has a lot of sugar and it's also becoming harder to produce. Climate change induced weather events and even bacterial disease have impacted orange groves across the world, affecting the supply. One specific disease has been a blight on groves in Florida, where the state's production has fallen by 92% over the last two decades. In summarizing the change of fortune the citrus has seen, the Post writes that it is symbolic of today's inflation, disease and climate change. You can find all these stories and more in the app News App. And if you are already listening in the News app right now, stick around for Shamita's full interview with Jasmine Garsd. That episode of Apple News in Conversation is coming up for you next. And if you're listening in the podcast app, you can find it by following Apple News in Conversation. Enjoy the weekend and we'll be back with the news on Monday.
Release Date: August 8, 2025
Host: Gideon Resnick (in place of Shumita Basu)
Episode Title: Israel is planning a major escalation of the war in Gaza. What to know.
Gideon Resnick opens the episode by highlighting the critical news from the Middle East. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced his intention to seize control of the entire Gaza Strip during a Fox News interview (00:05). This declaration marks a significant potential escalation in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas.
Netanyahu's Stance:
In an interview, Netanyahu stated, “We intend to [seize control of Gaza], in order to assure our security, remove Hamas there, enable the population to be free of Gaza and to pass it to civilian governance” (00:42). This statement underscores his administration's commitment to eliminating Hamas and establishing a new governance structure in Gaza.
Following Netanyahu's announcement, Israel's security cabinet approved a plan to take over Gaza City after an extensive meeting (00:54). Netanyahu’s office described this broader takeover as a "major escalation" that contradicts the views of Israeli voters, segments of the military, and much of the international community.
Notable Quote:
“The temporary full control of the Strip was the only way to liberate the people of Gaza,” Netanyahu asserted, emphasizing the necessity of this move despite widespread opposition (00:54).
UN's Warning:
The United Nations has cautioned that such a takeover could lead to catastrophic consequences, exacerbating the humanitarian crisis in the region.
Reuters’ Insight:
Alexander Cornwell from Reuters elaborated on Netanyahu's proposals, stating, “Netanyahu has said publicly that he does not want to govern Gaza. He wants to hand it over to some kind of civil administration that would involve other Arab states. How exactly that would work is not clear. His main condition is that Hamas has no involvement” (01:28).
A full occupation of Gaza by Israel would necessitate an increased military presence and mass evacuations. However, the already dire situation in Gaza makes relocation nearly impossible, with over 60,000 Palestinians having lost their lives since the war commenced (02:11). The World Health Organization reports that nearly 12,000 children under five in Gaza suffer from acute malnutrition.
Palestinian Perspective:
Cornwell shared sentiments from Gazans who, after multiple forced relocations, express a strong desire to remain in their homes despite the dangers: “...the sense of feeling of, well, if I'm going to die, I'm going to die in my home” (02:34).
Netanyahu faces immense domestic pressure concerning the release of approximately 50 hostages held by Hamas, with around 20 believed to be alive (02:58). Recent protests in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, led by families of hostages, demand an immediate end to the war, fearing that further escalation could endanger their loved ones even more.
Military Reservations:
The IDF's military chief opposes the takeover, warning it would “drag Israel into a black hole” (03:16), a sentiment Netanyahu has dismissed, prioritizing his security agenda over military advice.
Potential Long-Term Plans:
Cornwell suggests that the occupation might be a strategic move to leverage a favorable ceasefire negotiation, although current talks remain stalled (03:44).
The Gaza Strip is internationally recognized as part of the Palestinian territories by the UN and the International Court of Justice. An Israeli seizure on this scale could potentially breach international law, raising significant legal and geopolitical concerns.
Construction at the Florida detention center, dubbed "Alligator Alcatraz," has been ordered to stop temporarily after legal challenges. Environmental and tribal groups argued that the hastily built facility on a protected nature preserve violates environmental laws (04:24).
Inhumane Conditions Reported:
NPR’s Jasmine Garsd reported distressing conditions within the facility, including detainees going without food, sleeping on floors for weeks, and living in insect-infested cells without air conditioning (05:35). Governor Ron DeSantis denies these reports, although the Department of Homeland Security plans to use the facility as a model for future detention centers across multiple states.
Rising Detentions:
With detention numbers surpassing deportations and facilities overcrowded by at least 13,500 individuals, concerns are mounting over the treatment of detainees, especially the approximately 72% who have no criminal records (06:25).
Public Sentiment:
Jasmine Garsd notes a growing discomfort among the public, including Trump supporters, regarding aggressive federal immigration enforcement tactics (07:07).
The Trump administration is intensifying efforts to dismantle harm reduction approaches in combating the overdose epidemic. Harm reduction includes strategies like providing naloxone, sterile needles, and fentanyl test strips to aid individuals with drug addictions without enforcing abstinence.
Executive Order Details:
The recent order targets federal funding for safe consumption sites, labeling them as facilitators of illegal drug use (07:37). Critics argue these facilities help reduce public drug use and connect users to necessary healthcare services.
Public Health vs. Law Enforcement:
David Ovalle from the Washington Post explains that harm reduction centers offer supervised environments where individuals can use drugs safely, thereby reducing overdose deaths and linking users to rehabilitation services (08:37).
Impact of the Order:
The order may redefine harm reduction, potentially leading to decreased funding for essential services despite evidence of their effectiveness. Harm reduction groups fear broader federal and state-level cutbacks, exacerbating the opioid crisis (10:43).
Affirmative Action Data Requirements:
Colleges receiving federal funding must now disclose admissions data based on race, following a Supreme Court decision limiting affirmative action (09:55).
Historic MLB Debut:
Jen Powell is set to make history as the first female umpire in a Major League Baseball regular-season game, marking a significant milestone in sports gender equality (09:55).
Decline in Orange Juice Popularity:
The Washington Post reports a decline in orange juice consumption due to high sugar content and production challenges caused by climate change and diseases impacting orange groves, particularly in Florida (09:55).
Gideon Resnick wraps up the episode by directing listeners to additional content available on the Apple News App, including an in-depth conversation between Shamita Basu and Jasmine Garsd. The episode underscores the multifaceted crises from geopolitical tensions in Gaza to domestic challenges in the United States, highlighting the interconnectedness of international and national issues.
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