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Episode: What the government shutdown could mean for your next flight
Date: October 8, 2025
Host: Shumita Basu

Overview

This episode examines the effects of the ongoing government shutdown on U.S. air travel, focusing on its impact on air traffic controllers and airports nationwide. Shumita Basu also explores new developments in reproductive healthcare, a major Supreme Court case on conversion therapy, and covers other top news including the latest on the Nobel prizes, international social media bans for minors, and contentious Senate hearings.

Main Segment: The Government Shutdown & Air Travel

Key Discussion Points

• Air Traffic Controllers Working Without Pay

  • All 11,000 U.S. air traffic controllers are classified as essential and must continue working but are not receiving paychecks during the shutdown.
    • “All 11,000 of them are still working without pay in the government shutdown and some are now calling out sick during a time when they’re not getting paid.”
      — Pete Montine, CNN ([01:04])

• Increasing Sick Calls, Staffing Shortages & Delays

  • On Monday night, 12 FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) facilities reported staffing shortages.

  • Temporary shutdown of the Burbank, California control tower led to delays, forcing pilots to self-coordinate landings and takeoffs.

    • “It sort of switches over from kind of like a stoplight or maybe a crossing guard to a four way stop… pilots sort of have to self announce on a common radio frequency. Some call it… like a chat line.”
      — Pete Montine ([01:41])

  • Staffing-related delays were reported in Boston, Houston, Chicago, and Las Vegas.

• Systemic Vulnerability

  • Even small numbers of absences can cascade into major delays at highly trafficked airports.
    • “Frankly, pretty small numbers caused the FAA to implement flight delays, some of the biggest pieces of airspace in the country.”
      — Pete Montine ([02:31])

• Human Impact on Controllers

  • Many controllers are living paycheck-to-paycheck, with some taking side jobs to make ends meet.

    • “I even talked to a controller during the last shutdown that was starting to drive for Uber because they needed to just make ends meet.”
      — Pete Montine ([03:04])

  • The final scheduled partial paycheck for controllers is set for October 14.

• Uncertainty Over Back Pay

  • Reports indicate the Trump administration is considering withholding back pay for some furloughed workers, a reversal from a 2019 law designed to guarantee pay after shutdowns.

Supreme Court Hears Challenge to Colorado’s Conversion Therapy Ban

Key Discussion Points

• The Law at Stake

  • Colorado bans licensed professionals from attempting to change a minor’s sexual orientation or gender identity ("conversion therapy").
  • Lawsuit led by Christian therapist Kaylee Chiles, claiming the ban violates free speech rights.

• Arguments & Cultural Context

  • Chiles argues the law restricts religiously informed therapy and open conversation.

    • “The care that is at stake in this lawsuit is that we are allowed to speak freely… have a conversation without the government peering into our private counseling conversation.”
      — Kaylee Chiles ([05:12])

  • Survivors of conversion therapy highlight the practice’s profound psychological damage.

    • “That ends up stacking on levels of shame that a lot of people never recover from.”
      — Simon Kent Fung ([05:55])

• Supreme Court Signals & Possible Precedents

  • Justice Samuel Alito:
    • “…Looks like blatant viewpoint discrimination.” ([06:29])
  • Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson highlights longstanding governmental regulation of medical practice.

• Potential Nationwide Ramifications

  • LGBTQ advocates view the case as "blockbuster" and fear a decision against Colorado would undermine similar laws in over 20 states.
    • “If they throw out one in the form of Colorado, it spells doom and gloom for the other 23.”
      — Kate Saussen, The 19th ([07:22])

• Timeline: Decision expected summer 2026.

Under-the-Radar News: FDA Approves Generic Abortion Pill

Key Discussion Points

• FDA Approval

  • The FDA quietly approved a generic form of the abortion pill mifepristone, with little public announcement.
  • Approval criticized by anti-abortion activists and some Republican politicians.

• Political and Policy Reactions

  • The move conflicts with expectations that the Trump administration would make access more difficult.
    • “This is a huge disappointment to anti abortion activists…”
      — Natalie Allison, Washington Post ([08:53])
  • Missouri Senator Josh Hawley and former Vice President Mike Pence both criticized FDA leadership and urged stronger restrictions.

• Legal and Scientific Context

  • FDA is required by law to approve safe and effective generic drugs.
  • Major medical associations, including the American Medical Association, oppose further restrictions on mifepristone.

• Trump's Delicate Balancing Act

  • Trump administration signals some support for current access, despite activist pressure.
    • “He has said that he has no interest in removing access to the abortion pill.”
      — Natalie Allison ([10:14])

Other Notable Stories

Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing ([10:28])

• Attorney General Pam Bondi faced tough questioning, often refusing to answer and turning to personal criticisms.
• Notable moment during exchange with Congressman Adam Schiff:
  • Schiff: “Someone can and cannot accept personal slander as an answer to those questions.”
    ([11:29])

International: Denmark Moves to Ban Social Media for Minors ([11:42])

• Denmark will ban social media for children under 15, joining moves by Australia and Norway.
• Danish PM: “We have unleashed a monster…”
  — Mette Fredriksen

Human Moment: Nobel Winner Out of Reach ([11:42])

• Immunologist Fred Ramsdell discovered he’d won the Nobel Prize after emerging from a cell-service dead zone on a hiking trip.

Memorable Quotes

• On controller hardship:
  “When you think about not getting paid, their thoughts sort of deviate to, well, how am I going to put food on the table?”
  — Pete Montine ([03:04])

• On the impact of conversion therapy:
  “First, there’s the shame that you feel for just being different…when you can’t actually change.”
  — Simon Kent Fung ([05:55])

• On potential precedent:
  “If they throw out one in the form of Colorado…it spells doom and gloom for the other 23.”
  — Kate Saussen ([07:22])

• On the abortion pill approval:
  “Trump… has said that he has no interest in removing access to the abortion pill.”
  — Natalie Allison ([10:14])

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Government Shutdown & Air Travel: 00:54 – 04:00
• Conversion Therapy Supreme Court Case: 04:00 – 07:48
• FDA Abortion Pill Approval: 07:48 – 10:28
• Senate Hearing / Attorney General Bondi: 10:28 – 11:42
• International Social Media Bans: 11:42 – 12:00
• Nobel Prize Winner’s Missed Call: 12:00 – 12:50

Conclusion

This episode offers a concise but in-depth look at how the government shutdown is directly affecting U.S. air travel and the people behind it, while also highlighting major ongoing stories shaping national policy—from the courts to Congress to classrooms. Through interviews and experts’ insights, listeners gain both a practical understanding of the day's top news and a sense of its wider social impact.