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Welcome to another exciting edition of Are you Garbage? The show where you find out if your favorite comedians are classy individuals or absolute trash. Now, here are your hosts, Kevin Ryan and H. Foley.
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Hey, everybody out there. And welcome back to everybody's favorite podcast. This is RU Garbage. Oh, yeah, it's that little show. We sit down with your favorite comedians and we find that it's a group to be classy. Yeah, but they're just a big old piece of trash.
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Trash, trash, trash.
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I'm your host, Stage Foley, coming at you on a beautiful day. We're out back here at Tooties in a new edition. She was sliding off her seat at breakfast with the two guys we got here tonight. She's a big fan, very excited. Mike Cohes is coming at you from right next to me. He is the CEO of RU Garbage, and he is my best pal in the whole wide world, and I love him. Give it up for kj, Kevin, James Ryan, everybody.
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What up, gang? Shout out to you. Thanks for tuning in as always, please make sure you rate view subscribe on itunes. Full video available on YouTube. Then obviously the greatest website of all time, www.patreon.com re garbage. You go over there, you join the over 15,000 members of Patre Gang.
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Shout out to the homies. And gang, we couldn't be more excited to have two incredibly special guests here with us today for the first time for over 35 years, they have been an absolute force of nature. They have a brand new album out right now, the Knot. They are on tour right now, ladies and gentlemen, for the Juggalos, for the Jugglettes, for the Family, Violent J, Shaggy Too dope, Insane Clown Posse. All right, gentlemen.
We just watched the. The doc that they did on you guys about the. The gathering of the Juggalos.
C
It's very cool.
B
Loved it.
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Hell, yeah.
D
Which document? Which one?
C
It was the American Juggalo.
D
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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About the FBI shitting on it.
C
No.
I missed that one. No, yeah, there's a. I mean, it's so cool what you guys have created. And, you know, the. The. The family. I mean, for lack of a better word is what it's called. The family of. It is very, very cool. It's cool to see.
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It is, man. It's very unique. Maybe the last subculture in America.
C
I don't think you're wrong is everything kind of bleeds together a little bit. You guys have really carved out quite a world for yourselves. It's really cool.
B
We're gonna ask you about growing up, but what's this about the FBI?
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In 2011, the FBI named Juggalos a gang.
C
No shit.
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One of the top 10 gangs in.
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The country, along with Crips, Bloods, Ms. 13.
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Talking about no bad press. That's fantastic.
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That's what we said.
But then it started having repercussions. You know what I mean? You know, Juggalo started getting. If they get popped for a little bit of weed or some, you know, they get sentenced as a gang member. You know, they ended this gang member file and they get logged on as a gang member. And if they're fighting for custody with their ex or something, there's suddenly a gang member in the eyes of the.
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Law, you know, trying to get into the military, and they got hatchet man tattoo. They're tatted up, gang member.
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People started losing their jobs and it just got insane.
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See how it goes from like, oh, that's awesome. That quick.
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Did they loosen that up?
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Well, we had to march on Washington.
C
No shit.
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And it worked.
A
Well, first we tried to sue the FBI four times, and it got thrown out each time.
C
Dude, you're the first. You guys are the first guys to ever sue the FBI. And I fucking respect.
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What they did is they never apologized, they never took us off. But what they did is they just said, that list doesn't exist no more. We don't do it no more.
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Musician.
D
We want a apology.
B
Yeah.
C
No, I agree.
D
At least an official. No, you ain't. Because, like, there's still, like, little towns across America that get gang funded because they have juggles. So there's still people that take advantage.
A
That's really what the whole thing was. In these rural towns, you got the police force can say, hey, there's a gang here. So they get extra funding from the government to fight that gang. That gang ain't nothing but Juggalos hanging.
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Out the park and rural barnyard Ohio. You know, they got a bad gang problem out there, you know.
C
Now that's crazy.
D
They got two Juggalos that live in the town.
C
And so they. Then they get probably some sort of government $23 million funding.
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And that's the gang. You know, it's all just. You know, there was a book that came out about it. I. I couldn't even finish the book. I only got halfway through this. Giving me panic attacks. That's all.
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Those.
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Those little.
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Those little police stations get those brand new shiny suv, they get the tanks.
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And shit because they get this to stop the junk.
B
It's all ICP money.
A
Wow, man. But that, that.
D
That was and then it was repercussions on us too. A bunch of like retailers dropped our. Because it was now our conscience became gang rallies.
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The insurance went up, you know what I'm saying?
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All types of shit.
A
Yeah, we got it. It was rough. It was really rough. But after we did the march in 2017, it got so much press and stuff that we feel like its purpose was served. You know what I mean?
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We feel like it got attention brought to it.
A
It got so much attention. Everybody was like, that is so ridiculous. Love them or hate them, that shit's ridiculous. You know? So it feels like things have gotten better. We're back in hot know. We're back in. We're back in Spencer's.
C
You guys are doing hard brick and mortar retail. That's fucking awesome. That's crazy, dude.
B
Couple of movers and shakers. All right, let's change gears. Lighten it up a little bit. So you guys are both from Detroit?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Right. Start off with the same with the question, what was the grocery store that you guys went to as a kid?
D
From what I remember, it was either Chatham's or Farmer Jack's.
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Farmer Jacks or amp?
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Yeah, amp too.
C
Shout out. Amp.
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My mom used to work at an amp. No deli counter.
C
Very nice.
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Amongst a lot of other jobs.
B
What was the growing up situation? Who had it worse? Who had it better?
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I don't know. I think. I think we both had it shitty in different ways.
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Blue collar neighborhood.
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Oh, no question.
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Extremely poverty for me, man.
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Both of us.
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Extreme poverty. Food stamps, powdered milk block cheese. You know what I'm saying? Broken home. I've had three.
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Three dads, Drug addict, alcoholic family members. You know what I'm saying?
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Molestation. My real father left when I was two.
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Damn.
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You know what I mean? Child abuse. All of that good family, good old.
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Good old hardy hometown American shit.
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Understandable.
C
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Huh?
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Are you giving us check marks?
B
So far you're winning.
C
Don't worry.
B
You're killing.
C
I don't think it's a question of, you know, if you're garbage or not. It's how much garbage. Fucking love. What was the first? I mean, being that your musicians. One of the common questions. What is the first concert you guys went to as individuals, like as a kid and. Or a teenager or whatever.
A
It may have been the same one.
D
I. I want to say it was Boogie Down Productions.
B
Okay.
D
With our KRS1 in them.
C
That's a great. KRS1's a great first concert.
D
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it Was that.
A
My first one was Sir Mix A Lot.
C
No shit.
D
Oh, yeah, I forgot about Mix A Lot. Yeah, I think that's. But I'm not sure if I want to Boogie Down Productions or Mix A Lot first. But they used to always have these shits downtown in Detroit called Throw it the Joe Joe Louis Arena.
B
Okay.
D
Where they just like put on. Wasn't a tour or nothing like that. Cause there was no rap tours back then. And they just throw like five, six different rappers on stage. And there'd be, you know, like quarter of the arena filled and just fun fights everywhere. All types of good. But those were to go to because you just get to see such a mix of people, you know, It'd be like Ice Cube, Big Daddy Kane, third base and. You know what I'm saying? MC Light, you know.
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Look at me too, man. That's awesome.
B
MC sir the Gas Face. Great video.
C
You with the deep cuts.
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I know what's going on.
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That was it. That was a pop hit.
B
Yeah, that was my era.
C
What was the first job each one of you had? Like first proper, you know, got a caddy.
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Caddy?
B
No shit.
C
At a golf course.
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Ten years old, carrying golf clubs.
C
Holy.
B
Public course. Private course.
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Private course. My mom. My mom worked in. In Birmingham at a. Which is like a fancy neighborhood, you know, and she was a janitor at a church. So she used to drop us off at the golf course in the morning and pick us up on our way home from work in the afternoon.
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You know what I mean?
A
We got there caddying all fucking day.
D
Yeah, it's crazy shit because like the year before, me and my brother had met this fella. We were caddies at a different place. And so when we all like linked up, we all ended up being caddies at the same place. So.
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How about.
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Weird as all I was 10.
B
How and how old were you when I started?
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I was 11 once I.
B
When you guys met.
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2 years old in him. Yeah.
D
So he originally like was. Was cool. My older brother. Yeah.
B
You guys fucking caddied together and now look at you. That's insane.
C
That's. What a fucking origin story, man.
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I worked over 50 jobs before. Before I started rapping for a living.
C
What do you think the best one was and what do you think the worst one? What would you hate the most?
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Probably the best one was at a place called Frank's Nursery and Crafts.
B
Wow. I know Frank's.
A
I worked at Frank's because I used to steal major from there. All the put about a dumpster in the alleyway. And come back and get it after work.
D
And we used to sell Christmas tree Hustle. They had the Christmas tree.
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Yeah. We used to give all our friends a happy Christmas every year.
C
I love that. Give back to the family.
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Yeah.
A
Also, the hustle was selling the Christmas trees because the people would come out to buy a Christmas tree, right? And they would see the price, and it would say, 50 bucks. And then it would be underneath it, it'd say, 50 bucks. You rip the bottom of the tag, give it to the customer. They would go in and pay for it. So then they would say, look, man, just give me 40. I'll give you 40 bucks right here if you just carry it straight out to my car. Be like, word. Yeah. You know what I mean? And just be carrying them straight out to the car, getting paid all night. I mean, I was making like 300 bucks a night doing that shit.
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You know, it's funny this came up because we were actually just talking about this type of earlier. My brother had a job at this gas station that he got through, like a family friend or something like that, you know what I mean? So it was like the. It was the night shift. So, like, he was in on it, you know what I'm saying?
C
Right away, he's in on it.
D
We would just go up there every night and rob the out of the place, you know what I'm saying? Just from the register and sniff gas.
B
Of course. It's the goddamn holidays. What are you doing? We used to have a. I mean, we used to have a little bit of a scam. We worked at Hess gas station. They used to have this promotion where if you got $10 of premium gas, you got a dollar off and you had a coupon that you'd fill out. But people would always get a floater gallon. It would never just be 10. It'd be like 10.6. So we'd add it all up at the end of the day and walk away. Whatever that cash was left over and.
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Fill out bullshit coupons right in that pocket piece.
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Any. Any. Any workplace scams. Great.
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Yeah, it is. I agree.
D
Yeah. It seems like, like, you know, when you're getting, like, menial jobs like that, that's the first thing you do is scheme how to rip them off.
C
Well, it depends on the. Always. If you got a good guy to train you who's like, listen, this is what you have to do. This is what you can get away with. That was always great in those shitty.
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Jobs, and there was so much you can get away with back then. We were young, you know.
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I was a bag groceries at a grocery store. And you know, saying, people come in with their. In Michigan, you got 10 cent bottle, right? So they come in with their little bag. Your homie would come up with, like 10 bottles. And you just ring them up for, like $30 worth of bottles. And they just turn in the slip or, you know, saying, somebody get some cigarettes. So you have to go this special room to get the cigarettes. They give you the key, just stuff cartons down your. You know, flip them hoes.
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Man.
C
I like it. Yeah, we are off to the right. We got. We got. We got huffing gangs and FBI.
D
We could be here for days. It's not work hustles.
B
Any pets? Growing.
D
Growing up. Yeah. I always had a dog.
A
Me too.
B
Okay.
D
And I assume not a great dog. No, it's always like mutts. And then, you know, they're like, I got. I got. We. We always rotate between, like, four or five dogs, depending upon what year it is. You know, me and my wife and my kids and all that. And we take such immaculate care of our animals, you know what I'm saying? Like, vets, regular checkups, you know what I'm saying? One of my dogs before swallowed a corn cob, a bull terrier. Ended up costing, like, 30 grand. You know what I'm saying?
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Sure.
C
Yeah.
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When we were kids, we had a dog. That motherfucker was sick, yo. So sad. Too bad. You know what I'm saying? Lock that motherfucker outside so he don't shit in the house, you know.
B
Shaggy, get the shovel.
I mean, you guys are doing very well. That's all behind us now, right? Yeah, yeah.
C
We'll take care of you.
D
I would love to be my dog. Sure.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
D
Get treated well, man.
B
What kind do you have?
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Now that's his understatement. I would love to be my dog too. Just sit around the house all day eating. Yeah, hell, yeah, eating. And. And that's what I'm Right.
D
Yeah. Yeah.
C
I doubt that's eating generic kibble either. It's probably on raw diets.
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And you don't even give a. What's on tv. You just don't even pay attention to it.
D
You just. You don't give a. Right? You're just catching some warm sun through the window.
C
These two guys out doing tours and jealous of their dogs.
B
Let me ask you this. How were the grades.
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Considering I got a fucking 9th grade education?
C
No shit.
D
I got.
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Listen, I'm no exaggeration over here. I failed second grade. So I had to do it twice, right?
C
Who the fuck failed second grade?
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Me. And also by the time I was in seventh grade, I failed it, right? But I was too old. You aged out for them to hold me back. You know what I mean?
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You can't be 20 years old in the third grade.
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You gotta start working in prank me. Anyway, get this to Frank's quick.
D
He had babies to feed.
A
And I come to find out that when you're in middle school, you can't flunk a class in middle school because then you'd be too. You'd be driving in middle school.
C
You know what I mean? They didn't like you driving to seventh.
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Grade, so they pass you anyway, you know. But I got straight ease all the way my whole life. I mean, I even. We put a book out and I got my old credit. What do they call them? Report cards. I got my report cards printed in the book. Straight E's, Ease and eyes. You know, for incomplete.
D
Yeah, I actually got a high school diploma.
B
Nice.
D
But not from high school.
B
Okay.
C
What year did you stop going to school?
D
I was 15 or 16 and I stopped going to school. And. Well, and when I was in school, I'd get all eyes, which are incomplete because I didn't go to school when I was in school. So I just go out and hustle all day and then just come home afterwards.
A
He's got a high school diploma, but it's not his though.
D
Yeah, it's been handed down through the family.
It's actually an heirloom, by the way.
C
It's my great great grandpa's, the only guy to graduate high school.
D
But no. So I dropped out of school, took a couple years off, fucked around, and then like, it broke my mom's heart, you know what I'm saying? Because like she, she. Nobody in my family, you know, never did shit, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, if you can't finish school, you ain't gonna do nothing in life type shit. So I went to like this, like, school, I guess.
C
Sure, yeah.
D
You know what I'm saying? And got my diploma. I'd go three hours a day. I go, go to sleep, do like two like second grade math sheets.
C
Yeah.
D
And then I got for like six months and they gave. They gave me a high school diploma.
C
What's that day? So you drop out of 15. 16. What's that day look like? You wake up 16, what are you doing?
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I don't tell them stealing.
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Yeah, I wake up, my boy pick me up and I go through the orders that I had for people, and I go, lift it from wherever. You know what I'm saying? Then, yeah, like, people would be like, yo, I want these kind of jeans, this and that. So you go, oh. And he was like. And you would procure.
C
As for stealing people, like, can you get me a pair of guests?
D
Right? So my. The main hustle was procure.
B
Good word.
D
Especially for like. For, like, teenagers, was like, beer and cigarettes, you know? And we. We, like, had so many scams where we just hit licks. Like all these, like, cigar stores where you go in the humidifier and they just have stacks of cartons. So you sell, like, cartons for, like, $10 a carton, you know?
C
So you were really just stealing, you know?
B
But still. Yeah.
D
Oh, yeah, no doubt. Yeah. Car radio. I mean, everything. You know what I'm saying? You can't even steal car radios.
C
Can you hot wire guys still trying to steal car?
D
I mean, don't nobody have a radio in their car? It's just a computer screen. What the do you steal out of that? Don't nobody want an extra computer screen. You know, he's.
B
He's a millionaire. He's still clocking the radio.
A
I get that out of there every time. My car stereo would get stole for the rest of my life. I would always think that's karma coming back.
D
Oh, yeah, no question. Like a house. Getting broke into a car, getting fucking broke into anything, it's just like, yo, I can't see shit.
B
Did you ever hit his car by accident as a kid?
C
What?
D
Yes, he did. Oh, I thought you meant, like, ran into me.
B
Why did you hit each other?
D
Well, he hit me. We'll still argue to the fucking death over what happened.
A
But one time. One time, we stole a car stereo, and it had our CD in it.
D
That's actually. Was a cassette.
A
The cassette.
C
Dang. These guys have been banging for a long time.
B
How sick is that? When you saw that, you're like, oh.
C
Did you put it back?
D
Install it back in at least two concert tickets.
A
I'm out there with a toolkit, trying to figure out how to install that back in.
B
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C
Hollow socks.
B
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C
Yeah, they're great with work boots, winter commutes and listen, we're in a dog days of winter right now.
B
Now.
C
And you lose your. You work outside, you got a long commute and a what? You lose your feet, you're done. It's like losing a room to the air condition. You can't. Your body goes. Any construction worker worth their worth, worth their weight and salt will tell you you got to take care of them tootsies. We'll spend $300 on boots and you throw two dollar, you know, Costco socks on and you're wondering why your feet are great. Point kids sweaty gross point. They have everyday socks. They have hunting socks, trade socks, compression socks. They got it all. For a limited time, Holo socks is having a buy two, get two free sale. Head to HollowSocks.com today to check it out. That's HollowSocks.com for up to 50% off your order. After you purchase, they're gonna ask you how you heard about them. You can support the show and tell them the boys sent you.
B
Do it, Kim. We got time out. Ora frames.
C
Shout out to aura. Aura. Aura frames.
B
Aura frames, baby. Talk about if you're jammed up on a gift.
C
Uh huh.
B
What do you get? Or frames, you get an order frame. If you're not jammed up, you should get an aura frame. Every broad in your life should get an aura frames this year.
C
Yes.
B
Grandmothers, aunts, girlfriends, wives, goomods, whatever. Get everybody in aura frame. They're absolutely fantastic. You throw it on the kitchen counter, you throw it on the mantle. They get to upload pictures and they get to know exactly what's going on. You don't think your grandma in Toledo would want to know what little Billy's doing every second of every day?
C
Mm.
B
Aura frames, baby. Yeah.
C
Also too these older ladies and gentlemen. Gentlemen, they're not great with technology. They think this is space age technology.
B
Yes.
C
They you're someone's gonna come over, gonna go look at what Billy got me. Look at what they said. It's updated pictures. He updates it every day with the week. The kids are on vacation. This is them in Florida. This is them ignoring my phone calls. The whole nine yards. You gotta do it. It's fantastic. Everybody they. I mean listen, every female in my life grandmother, both sides, everybody has gotten aura Frames and they love it.
B
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C
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B
Can you hotwire a car back then? Could you?
D
No, no. I knew how to like.
B
Like smash a window, pop a clutch.
D
And start a car.
B
Okay.
D
Hot wire though.
B
Yeah, that was always fun doing that. Popping the clutch.
D
Yeah. Because. Because a lot of. A lot of mechanics back then because there was a lot more stick shift cars. Like there'd be cars in there that just were like missing a gear. Like one gear was up. So they still work.
C
Yeah. What. Speaking of cars, what was each of yours first car that you owned individually?
A
80. 80.
D
Let me think.
C
And what year was this?
A
83 Valari. 83 Valari.
D
I don't know, a year.
It was a reliable piece of though.
A
I remember the year. It was a Volari and it was. It was doo doo Brown. Yeah, Doodoo Brown Vallari. My mom, God bless her heart, my mom was so proud to give me that car.
C
That's great.
A
You know what I'm saying?
D
I got.
My brother had got a car and it didn't work, so it got handed to me and so I got to work a little bit, but it didn't have no brakes, so you just had to idle down side streets and use your foot to stop.
B
Holy.
D
I only drove it a couple times. Yeah, that's better than walking. Of course.
C
Jesus Christ, man. And then what was the first car you guys. When you guys were like, did you guys have. Whose car were you using if you were going to do shows or. Once you guys started working together, what was that car?
D
We bought one together, but it ended up being his. A GEO Tracker. Fat wheels and purple lights up under it and ground effects and all that. It's so corny now. We were so geek, man. That thing was.
C
Man, those ground effects were big for a while, though.
D
Oh, they were bigger.
A
Started hanging off.
D
Yeah. They're all held up by speaker wire.
C
And up underneath them zip ties.
A
Brand new. It was a wreck after a week. You Know what I mean? Ground effects dragon.
C
Damn, you got it brand new.
A
No, no, it was at a lot. It was at a lot and it was tricked.
D
It was brand new to us.
A
They sold it at a lot. Tricked out like that.
D
Yeah, it came pre tricked out.
A
But once you hit a couple potholes and them ground effects crack up, you know what I mean? And it starts to look like, man, it was a nightmare.
B
What did you guys do with. Was there a moment where you got like one big check? Like when it happened?
D
No, not a big one. No, we never. Because whenever we get an advance or something like that, we just sink it back into our company.
A
So you guys, we got a big check.
D
I mean, I never got like cut, like, oh, here goes. I mean, first time I got a big check, it was 50 bucks. That was huge to me, you know, saying I bought a pair of shoes.
A
What about when Alex left?
D
Oh, well, yeah, but I'm saying, like, like from. That's. That was after years of work.
B
Yes.
A
We ever got a big check, though.
D
Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
C
Got the checkbook out?
D
No. Yeah, we. We like a million dollar check.
B
Yeah.
A
What happened was our manager.
Our manager was with us from the beginning and somebody tried to shoot at him. So he got real scared and he was like, I'm. I'm out of this business. I'm out of here. I'm moving out of town. I'm leaving. And so he met us at like a. Like a Slider Joe's or something.
D
A cow braised.
A
Like a braze hammer.
D
Yeah, a little greasy spoon slider.
A
He gave us each a check for a million dollars. And he was like, he never seen him again. Come to find out all these years later, he probably left with about 15.
C
He stole it. You know what I mean?
A
Like, now that we know, now that we're smarter now, there ain't no telling what he is ass left with. You know what I mean? But he gave me and Shaggy each a million. It wasn't no million. 200,000 was no 900,050. It just happened. Exactly a million.
C
No way around.
D
Well, I. I remember why it was exactly a million. Because that's how much you could get gift. You could gift somebody without taxes.
C
Like a one time.
D
Yeah. One time gift thing or receive it or whatever. Yeah. Tax free.
B
And what did you guys would you say you roughly had in your checking account or savings account when you got that? Oh, were you doing. I don't even.
C
I don't even think I had one check cashing place.
B
You got a check for a Million bucks?
D
Yeah.
A
What did you guys think?
D
I sat on mine for a minute. I didn't like, do nothing with it right away because, like, everybody was, like, trying to get away from the situation that happened to our manager. And I just, like, sat tight for me and I ended up buying a house and like, smart way the out, you know?
B
You two are smart with money now, aren't you?
D
No, really, man. Man, I'm the man.
B
Welcome to the show, baby.
D
Yo, Neither way.
C
Yeah.
D
I have no business getting the kind of money I get. Cause it goes right out my ass.
B
Really?
D
Fuck. Yeah.
A
Me too, man.
D
I have no clue how to hold on to money.
C
What's a recent. It didn't have to be recent or at any point is one purchase where you look back, you're like, fuck, I did not need to do that.
D
Probably drugs.
C
Okay, that makes sense.
D
You know what I mean? Like, big chunks of money on, like, fucking pills.
C
Yeah. What pills are doing Percocet and shit was.
D
I was Vicodin and Soma guy.
C
What's soma?
D
Muscle relaxing.
C
Okay.
A
Comes from the wrestling world.
D
Yeah, Definitely got right.
C
You guys. You guys had a wrestling and for.
D
A minute, Xanax like that. Yeah, but I never. Yeah, yeah, it was checking for a wire.
A
Shut up.
D
I mean, if I could get back all the money, because some shits are expensive on the street, man. You know, you go get a prescription, them shits are like $10. Then you buy the same amount. On the street, that shit's like 500.
A
You know, I know this, man. I do a lot better paying money back that I owe than saving money.
B
Gotcha.
A
You know what I'm saying? Okay, If I owe money, I'll pay it off quick. But if I'm trying to save money, it's gone.
C
Who would.
B
You always think I'm pretty.
D
Yeah.
A
Like, say, like, you know, I borrow money from the company. We have a company, right? It's us together, you know, that's where most of our money's tied into.
B
Yeah, we got the same situation.
A
So if we. We like, borrow money from the company or something, I'll have to. I'll have that pay back quick.
D
Quick.
A
But if I'm trying to save money, like, I don't owe nothing to nobody. My money ain't being saved. It's going out quick.
B
These guys are awesome, dude.
D
Right out the window, mans.
B
I love it.
D
Soda popping whistles. Straight up.
B
What kind of credit cards you guys rocking with?
D
I got one because my wife had got one. You know what I'm saying? I Don't know. Some kind of, like, Delta.
C
Yeah.
D
Shits. I don't.
B
You guys are Delta men.
A
I don't think I got anything fancy. I don't even know.
D
I know. I know this. If I fly, I know I can go hang out in, like, the Delta Lounge if I wanted to. That's just a piece of shit up there anyhow.
C
We hate it. Yeah, we don't go either.
D
Yeah, I'd rather go to a restaurant. It's more packed in there than it is, like, at the normal gate. You know what I mean?
B
Sure.
D
But, yeah, I got. It's a fancy purple card. I don't know what the fuck. I know something you guys should get.
C
This is the one thing that we have learned through the business. You should get amex Platinum. A Delta. Amex Platinum. A lot of battery.
D
I'll forget that the second I walk out.
A
My manager, all that. Like, he's the one that's smart with the numbers and all that. Like, we. But he's not.
But, like, anytime I'm about to make a big. Invest a big purchase for something, I do it through him.
C
Yeah, yeah, Smart. That's smart.
A
Like, I don't know how to do that shit. I don't know how to. You know, I don't even have, like, a fancy credit card. I just go to him and say, all right, I'm buying this, and he'll take it out of my account, you know?
C
Yeah, he'll do it. Damn, you guys are awesome.
B
How do you guys feel about. If you got to go to a show? Do you guys fly separately? Like, do you meet there or do.
C
You, like, meet at the airport?
B
What's going on?
A
Yeah, we fly separately a lot or together a lot.
D
You know what I'm saying? It just depends. Do I got something to do that day where I can't fly at the same time? I mean.
C
Gotcha.
B
If you guys would.
D
Whatever's. Whatever.
B
Do you get to the airport early and maybe have breakfast together?
D
No.
B
Never. You don't. You don't need the airport?
D
No.
A
We work so much together for so many years, right? When we're at home, we're living our home life.
D
Right.
A
You know what I'm saying?
D
Straight family, dude. Like, I. I don't go nowhere. I chill at the crib and love hanging out with my wife and kids.
A
And he has a podcast he does twice a week. It's real successful. I run a wrestling promotion. You know what I mean? Like, we. We do our own thing at home. You know what I mean? We text all the time. But, yeah, we don't really hang out, you know what I mean? At home. Because we're always together.
B
On the road all the time, same way.
A
And that way, when we get together, at least we have stories to tell each other, Right?
B
Exactly.
A
You know what I mean? Because we're together so often, there's nothing left to say.
B
The odd similarities between the four of us, it's crazy.
C
Yeah, we're the same, dude. Sometimes we'll get on a floor, we'll be together for. You know. We'll be on tour tour for fucking 10 days. We'll get on a flight, sit next to each other and not say a word.
We've been on stage together. We've been on the.
A
You already know what he's thinking.
C
I know.
D
You know what I mean? Yeah. Just right on the phone to fucking Homescapes.
B
What's Homescapes?
D
One of those stupid games. Candy Crush style games.
B
Okay. I thought you were looking at real estate.
D
No, I don't know how to do that.
C
How old were you guys when you got your passports? And what was the reason? For work?
D
Yeah. Because we had to go. Yeah. For work. We had to go do a press tour in Europe. So I think. I don't know, like, 22.
C
Okay.
A
24? 25. Yeah.
D
23. I don't know.
B
From where you guys came from, was there a moment where you both. Did you ever expect to get here? Did you always want to get here or were you just doing it for the love?
D
We always knew we were going to be successful and whatever the fuck we set our mind to, but not now that we are successful. It's. It's. It's definitely like, I. I think about it constantly. Like, what the. This is crazy.
A
Yeah.
D
You know what I'm saying?
A
Like, we're not even done being as successful as we're gonna be.
B
Of course that.
C
I love that.
A
You know what I mean? I'm serious. Because we.
D
We got a lot.
A
For example, there's a lot going on with this band. People don't know. Like, take, for example, it's a venue in Wichita. Right. We've been trying to sell this out our whole career, all through the 90s, through the 2000s. We just now sold it out two months ago.
C
Oh.
A
You know what I mean? Like, think about that for a minute. People don't even know we're still playing.
C
Yeah.
A
But on the flip side of it, we're doing better than we ever.
D
It's like we're. We're selling out bigger places where we're doing festivals now and we're selling out entire tours. We've never like headlining festivals and it's crazy.
A
We didn't do that in the 90s when we had albums on the charts and all that. We didn't sell out no entire chore now. Now we sell out entire tours. We sell out half the tour at least now or anything. Like, the venues are bigger than we've ever played. It's never been like that.
C
Huh?
A
You know, and now we got. We actually got hits now.
D
And we were supposed to be that. Yeah, we were supposed to be like the hottest in the 90s, you know what I'm saying? But our career is like doing way better now than it was then.
A
You know, ICP don't have no hit songs. And what I mean by that is not that we don't have radio music. We don't have any songs that became chart toppers or nothing, you know, or were played on the radio all summer, that type of. But now we actually do have hits in a different format. It's because of Tick tock or social media hits, you know, viral songs and. And these trends on Tick Tock and. And now when we do a concert, sometimes we do a song we've been. We've been playing for 25 years, right? And now all of a sudden we hear this scream from the crowd coming.
D
When it comes out, we look at.
A
Each other like, what the.
D
Like, screen, like. Like we've never heard, like the girl scream.
B
Like, right?
D
And it's definitely happening. We look at each other like, what the.
A
It don't even sound like our audience always has.
Yeah. So I mean that, like, we've always known we were going to be successful. And you have to, man, you have to know without a shadow of a doubt what you're going to do is going to work. Because if you put any type of doubt in your mind, you're going to find a way to it all the time. You know what I'm saying? Man, if you put any type of doubt in your game, believe me, man, that doubt is going to be all you keep relying on.
C
What, though? You guys are awesome.
D
And the doubt will give you excuses why you're like, slacking or whatever. No, ain't no excuse, man. Get your ass out there and get it, dude.
C
What?
A
The failure cannot be an option, you know, you have to know you're gonna school it.
D
You know who doesn't make it in life?
B
Who?
D
It sounds so simple, but it, but it's a lot behind it. People that quit.
C
Yeah.
B
Of course, quitters don't make it.
D
You know, comedy, that's the same thing. And most, most, most people on earth are quitters, you know what I mean?
C
Sure, yeah.
D
I mean, unless you just hap it for real, the win in life is just being happy, you know what I'm saying? Happy and content, you know what I'm saying? Finding peace, you know what I'm saying? But. And if you find that great, it don't matter what you do, you know what I'm saying? You could be a fucking collect garbage from the beach if you're happy.
B
Sure.
C
When we moved up to New York, we started in Philly, but to pursue comedy, he was already up here for six months. And he's an intense guy and everything, but like we said, he was like, we leave here in a body bag. Like, we don't go back home.
D
There's no plan B.
C
We're here until it works.
B
No plan B, man, to get to this show, are you garbage?
D
Planning is the only plan?
C
Yeah, yeah, of course.
A
You know, you drive down the street, right? You look at all these businesses on both sides of the street, right? 90 of these businesses. Nobody dreamed about working there. That's just where the wind blew them, you know? Nobody dreamed about working at a Laundromat. The only real guy killing is a guy that owns the line of Laundromats.
C
Yeah.
A
You know what I mean? Like, nobody dreamed about ending up in these jobs. It's just an opportunity opened up or something, something.
C
Somebody settled for something.
A
It's like the wind blew them there and that's where they're at, you know? But, you know, when you set a goal, you know, that's what I tell my kids every time they're so young. I'm telling you, man, have a goal. Have a goal. Because if you, if you're not happy doing what you do for a living, then you, you're not happy. Because that's all we do is work. Yeah, everybody works more than anything else. You go to work whether you're living your dream or not. You work all the time. So if you're not happy at your job. Job, you're not happy.
B
Damn.
A
Flat out, you know? So don't end up where the wind blows you, man. Find out what you want. It doesn't have to be no big shiny, fancy, you know, fame involved can be whatever you love. If you love painting, find what you love and do that, man.
D
You see them that run like scuba shacks, you know what I'm saying? When you go to a resort or something. They love it.
C
Yeah. They made three coconuts a day. And that's. They're cool with that.
D
And that's how you. You could tell I'm awesome because I go to the scuba shacks and resorts.
A
Well, I want to ask you.
D
They go scuba diving.
B
You two have worked very hard. You've done very well. You deserve everything that you have. What kind of vacation do you like now? I didn't enjoy it.
D
I didn't even go on an official real vacation till like, I think it was like 20, 18.
B
Okay. 19.
D
Crazy dude never went on a real vacation. I mean, I like went camping and shit like that. That don't count. Saying is that's just getting out of town. That's not going on vacation.
B
Right.
C
That's letting the heat blow over.
D
Right. But. But that. Then me and my wife, we like, started going on cruises and then going like, like to like these Caribbean islands. Staying at resorts. Nice.
C
Like that. The beach.
D
Yeah. Give me a tropical beach, man. I'm, I'm, I'm there. I'll come back looking like, like James Brown, bro.
A
I hate traveling straight.
C
Yeah.
D
I hate it.
A
I hate it.
D
I hate it.
A
I don't want to go. No. I don't like staying in any hotel more than I have to ever. Really. I cannot stand it.
D
I don't like the traveling part, but I love seeing new, you know what I'm saying? Like, we got plan. We're talking about renewing our vowels in Greece, like on the Mediterranean and. You know what I'm saying? And all types of, you know what I'm saying?
A
All I want to do is lay on my couch, watch you.
D
I'm very happy. I'm very happy doing that shit too, man. I love being like, I've designed my house where it's just like, I don't want to leave.
B
Gotcha.
D
You know what I mean? It's like. It is like being on vacation.
C
Right?
D
You know what I'm saying? Everything at my house is.
A
I'm happiest at home, you know?
B
How far. Sorry, How. How far away are you guys from each other?
D
We're only like 40, 45 minutes away from at all.
A
Not even that. Really?
B
Both have a pool? You guys got pools?
D
I do. And I live in a lake.
A
I got a pond, some bodies floating in it.
C
Okay. You got a boat on the lake?
D
No, no. Gonna get a pontoon. Cuz it's not really a speedboat lake. It's kind of laid back. Yeah. So we're just gonna get, we're getting A pontoon too.
C
I love a pontoon boat.
B
I like it.
D
We live in Michigan. Everybody has a pontoon in Michigan.
A
I got a, I got a Bigfoot statue.
D
He does.
C
He's got a statue of big and.
D
A chicken and I'll order out of order. Chicken coop.
B
Do you have an empty chicken coop on your property?
A
I got a guest house.
B
Okay, very nice.
A
I got, I got. You know, we all live in mansions, brother. We don't. We don't.
D
We live in nice houses, but not mansions.
A
Yeah, we don't even go that route.
D
Mansions, you know, like I still drive through like some Mary's like, holy am.
A
I like to buy a big ass empty mansion. You know what I mean? We don't, we don't go that route at all, man. We live in regular houses, you know.
D
I live out kind of like we're all like the, the, the, the big corporate car be having their houses and all that, you know, so it's like, God damn. That's like.
C
Yeah, big mansion, I'm sure, huh? Okay, what's the, what's the day to day car you guys are whipping around in nuts?
B
None.
C
None.
D
I. I ain't got a license.
C
Oh my God. Jesus.
D
I lost that privilege a minute ago.
I've had a valid license. I don't even remember. But then, you know, I kept getting pinched and so finally I was like, I just gotta stop driving because I'll never get my shit back. I could get it back. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with me. Like, I don't know where the motivation's at. I gotta get it back.
B
How do you get around? The missus drives you.
D
I got a guy that picks me up and drives me around.
B
There you go.
C
Gotcha.
B
You and the Mrs. Are going out to dinner.
D
She drives.
B
She drives.
D
She hates it. She's carts my ass everywhere, you know? Say, I feel so bad for. I gotta get my license, man.
B
Jay, what about you?
A
Well, you know, I had a Tesla plan, but they start smashing them up and people get, you know, I don't want my kids driving it or nothing. Getting rich by people, you know, So I don't drive that no more. And, and I drive a Suburban now, but I'm about to get something brand new too.
B
Yeah?
C
What are you thinking?
A
Well, you know, I'm letting my kids decide. You know what I'm saying?
C
I like that.
A
But I was looking at a G Wagon.
D
Ford Ranger.
C
Okay, Ford Ranger, yeah.
A
There's a couple ideas I got, but I'm letting my kids decide. Because when my kids like, my kids have fresh cars themselves though my son's got a track hawk.
My daughter's got this tricked out Miata.
B
Got a.
A
It's so dope. And she got, she also got a bug. This, this. Oh man. My daughter is this man. If I start talking about kids, I'll never stop.
C
No.
B
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C
Uh huh.
B
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C
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B
I love it. So from where you guys came from, you guys like to spoil the kids a little bit?
C
Yes.
D
I like to say no, but we do like a. Yeah, spoiled more than you guys. Say no to them.
A
But my kids don't want nothing. They don't ever want nothing.
D
You know, I always catch myself like, you know, like being with my kids, man, if you had it like I had. But it's like I don't want them to have it like that. For what? They don't have to have it like that. You know, My son, my 10 year old, he's like, just like, he's the nicest kid you'll ever meet in your life. You know, the friendliest, most polite. And like when he was little, I'm like, all right, we gotta get you in boxing classes, you know, so he could be. He's a huge kid too. I'm like, whip some ass. He's like, I don't want to.
C
That's dirt bagging.
D
He's like, I don't want to. And I'm like, I'm like, you know what, it's cool. I don't need to teach my kid how to be a tough ass. He's not gonna need that, you know what I'm saying? And if he does whatever, he'll h a goon to somebody up.
C
He's still gonna win a fight, but.
D
But it feels good.
B
Call his daddy.
D
It feels good not not having to like, you know, cuz my older sons, I got, I got twin sons that are 29 and, and you know, I always, you know, made sure they were tough and you know what I'm saying? Because they, you know, grew up way.
C
It was a different time. Different, different way different.
D
I was on the road all the time, you know, and I was a drunk. So like, you know what I'm saying? It was just like, you know, a whole different situation. But, but it feels good. Good like raising my kids now to, to, to not have to like, look over their shoulder constantly, you know what I mean?
C
It's a great perspective you have of that as. As well, you know what I mean?
D
And I love it. You know what I'm saying? There's no reason why they should have to go through that.
C
Yeah.
B
Sharp.
C
Did your business manager suggest the G wagon?
A
No, my kids, because that's.
C
All right. That's a. That's a big. That's a big.
A
Impress my kids, you know, I love that.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
And.
A
And me and my daughter and me and my son are bo. Both looking for what I'm about to get, you know, Because I got the Tesla thinking that would impress them. My kids are like Teslas, you know what I'm saying? And I. I don't know anything about a Tesla. I'm not gonna lie. I got it because a friend of ours was like, you need to get this. I was about to buy a Corvette.
C
You know what I mean?
A
I used to have one when I was younger and I wanted another one.
D
I'm like, thank you for. Not you.
B
You, Corvette, Michigan.
D
A 50 something year old guy pulling up in a Corvette.
A
Exactly.
D
Just got his ear pierced.
A
I was single. I was single when I was looking at that. But then my boy was like, why do you want a Corvette, man? The Tesla's faster. It's the fastest car.
B
Yeah, but the Corvette looks better.
D
I know.
C
Sounds. I know.
A
And then toy blue ones and look like a toy. It looks so dope. It's baby blue. And I seen it at the auto show and I was just like, why not? I'm about to cop this, you know? And then he was like, get the Tesla, it's faster, you know? So then I got a Tesla and I wrapped it chrome. I wrapped it like a mirror, you know what I mean? It looks so sweet.
D
Right?
C
That's.
D
And.
A
And then next I start seeing on tv, oh, this guy got pulled off a Tesla, beat up, and people hate Teslas now. And I'm like, oh, that I want to bring that kind of drama if my kids are driving it or whatever.
D
Are you? Man, these teenagers are out of mine.
C
It's so funny to hear you beat up by a gang of teenagers. These goddamn teenagers are watching, man.
D
They'll put pistols on you with the quickness. I'm good without getting shot up by some dumbass teenager.
B
You kids get back in school.
A
I got this Suburban, though, that I drive.
C
I love a suburb. Suburban.
A
It's so perfect. It's like I haven't been motivated to buy anything. I want everything. I want it's got the same chassis as a Cadillac. Everything like a Cadillac, you know, it's like, why not? Why, why, why do I need to upgrade, you know? This is everything I want. I don't really give a. I'm not even trying to. Not out here trying to pull chicks or anything, you know, when I.
D
When I. When I do. If and when I do get my license back, I will be getting an Escalade, though. That's what I. That's what I had all the way up until my license, until I stopped driving. What do they drive you, the couple of them?
B
What do they drive you around this.
D
This big. This big ass Ford F. Some shit. I don't know. It's got the big fucking comic book character, the juggernaut on the back.
C
Sure.
D
And it's. It his hood.
C
That's crazy.
D
His hood has a skeleton with a American and Mexican flag wrapped around it with a bullet belt.
C
Sister boy, that's awesome.
D
Yeah. Like, we thought it was like a car search. Will they be pulling up the places I see people looking like, what the fuck they looking at, man? I was like, oh, that's getting out.
C
Of that cartoon car.
D
I forget what fucking car I'm in. I'm over here in the fucking cartel car.
C
What. What's on the rider? When you guys are on tour, do you have any special requests? Water. Just water.
B
That's it.
D
Aquafina. That's it.
C
Aquafina.
A
Yeah.
D
Well, I don't give a fuck. I drink like. That's for people. I treat the people around me well. I get them Aquafina.
A
I think there's red bul.
D
Drink gallons of water. That's all I drink is water. I don't drink nothing else.
C
Really?
B
Coffee? Nothing.
D
Oh, coffee, yeah. In the morning.
B
Okay.
C
And Jay, you're a Red Bull guy.
A
We put him in the bus. You know, we keep the bus stocked.
C
I think.
A
I think there might be a couple things in the. On the rider, like whatever we like to have in the bus, we just pull it out of the venue every day and stick in the bus.
D
In my bus. Hate it. That's all there is, is water. I'm like, I ain't buying your popping, you guys.
C
You guys each do a butt. You guys each have your own bus. That's fun. We've done a bus a couple of times. It's a great way, obviously, travel through the road. Very comfortable. But the own bus.
D
Wow.
C
Got the. You got the. The room in the back, right? Like, yeah, queen size. Better.
D
Wouldn't.
B
How many people are on the bus.
D
With each year, it's me and the driver and usually like maybe like two or three other people.
B
Very nice.
A
If it's, if it's a regular tour, is. Is our runner dude, and me and my girl.
C
Cool.
A
But we tour with wrestling too. The wrestling promotion, I bring. And then it's when the wrestlers come.
D
Out, he takes them all out. I'm just like, God damn. It looks like a clown car. Everybo coming out that day.
Wrestlers coming out like, hey, brother, what.
C
Are they all are. They're all in the bunks.
A
They take up the bus and then there's like two or three vans also following the tour. Wrestlers, you know what I mean?
D
That's why I'm like, wrestling's his gig. You guys can't drive on my ass.
A
It's my favorite joy, you know, I like to watch our show every, every Thursday night on YouTube. I like to lay at home and watch the creation happen. It's a pain sometimes to get out there and shoot it. You know what I mean?
D
Mean.
A
But there's nothing can beat the feeling of watching a TV show that we're creating every Thursday night.
C
That's awesome.
A
It's called JCW Lunacy, by the way.
C
Check it out on YouTube. Everybody go check it out. Yeah. Damn.
B
Do we bite our nails or do we clip our nails?
D
I, I, I grow them till they break.
C
It's the first time we ever got that answer.
D
And then maybe I'll like, file it so it's not sharp.
B
Okay.
D
I mean, yeah, you could. I got snags for figuring out.
C
Well, you got the coke pinky nail too?
D
Well, it's a must.
C
It's a prerequisite for the coke.
D
Kid doesn't have a pinky. Now what kind of question was that?
C
He kidding me.
B
Gonna hit me? I thought you were a proper journalist.
C
It's crazy.
B
Jay, what about you bike?
A
I clip.
B
You clip Good. Any mannies or petties?
D
I used to get manicures when I was single. I like it like, nice. Now I wouldn't get painted.
A
I would not be called Violent J sitting up there getting a manicure. No way.
C
He's got his toes in the.
A
I'm way too scrubby, man. I thought this was called all you garbage.
C
What are you guys talking about?
D
Manicures for.
A
The.
D
Now you make me feel like a.
B
You are not.
C
No, no, no, not at all. What was, what age was the first tattoo for each of you?
D
I think I was 21.
C
21, that's.
B
Yeah, it's good.
C
Elder, what about you, Jay, probably 23.
D
Tattoos when we were youngsters, they weren't like they are now.
C
They weren't accessible. They weren't easily accessible.
D
Well, yeah, not only that, but it wasn't like, you know, saying getting a tattoo was a whole different. It wasn't just like, oh, this is part of my purse. It's like, you know, saying like kids now, 20, got their whole face tattooed. And you know what I'm saying that if you saw a. With a face tattoo back in the day, they would probably serve some time.
C
Yeah, definitely.
D
Or they're like, heavy in a gang. It's a gangster.
B
Are you guys Detroit style pizza guys?
A
Yes.
D
When the fuck did they start calling Detroit style?
B
What do you guys call?
D
Call it a square.
B
A square.
D
You get around a square.
A
We start touring and noticing people are calling it Detroit Pizza here.
C
They call it outside of Detroit. Yeah, yeah.
A
It's a square pizza. And it's thicker.
B
Yes. That's what, like a Sicilian crust around it?
D
Yeah. Like the burnt cheese going around.
B
And you guys have a favorite spot back at home that you like?
D
I mean.
A
Yes. It's called Novellas.
B
Okay.
D
Oh, damn. You want all mom and pops with it? I'm like, jets. I don't know.
C
I've never had jets.
D
No, there's a couple, like, little, little local spots around the house.
B
And do we like a cor. Do we like a middle.
D
Oh, you got to get a corner in a square. You got to get the corner.
A
I like to get. I go to Village Pizza and Barbecue and there's. It's called a corners pizza.
B
Yeah.
A
And it's just.
B
Oh, it's full corners.
D
Yeah. It's like two pizzas. Yeah. All corners. Yeah. Eight corners. Yeah.
B
Love that.
D
Eight corner pizza.
B
All right. Very good, Very good. Do we have a favorite fast food national chain, man?
D
I. I trying to. I'd say Wendy's probably.
C
Okay.
D
I With their breakfast.
C
Wendy's breakfast.
D
Breakfast, yeah.
B
That's great, Jay.
A
I don't with fast food, man.
B
Oh, do we. Do we cook at the house, I assume.
A
Yeah.
B
Who cooks?
A
Sarah, my girl.
B
Your girl?
D
Yeah, my wife and I I. In the summertime, I grill like a.
B
You hit the grill?
D
Yeah, I grill like a. Like, I don't know any famous grillers.
C
But I'll grill like them.
D
But I'll grill like one of those.
A
How do you like Guy Fieri or whatever?
D
Yeah, I feel. I. I like Guy Ra. Ramsay or whatever his name is.
C
Shout out Guy Ramsey.
B
How do you get the steak cooked.
D
How you want it?
B
No, no, how do you. How do you like.
D
If you want me, I'm not a steak guy. Really. I don't. I cook the out of them. From what I understand, they're pretty delicious. But I. Unless I'm going to like a really nice steak place. I don't fuck with steak. I eat hot dog. I eat me some Bar S. I got a Bar S hot dog tattoo on my leg. Really says Bar S and everything.
B
What do you put on the dog? Which would he like raw?
D
You like that straight? If you can't fucking enjoy a hot dog with nothing on it, what the fuck kind of hot dogs you eat, homie?
A
You know.
D
You know what I put on it? I put some of those French's onion boys on there.
B
No kidding.
D
I actually learned that from New York from these hot dog stands back in the day. They charge like two bucks for like two little pinches, you know what I'm saying?
A
Give me a up a New York strip with some blue cheese crumbles on that bridge.
C
Okay, now we're talking.
A
I'm living medium.
D
Okay.
A
Well medium or medium well?
B
All right.
A
That's how the I'm living. And cut a potato up real thin and throw that bitch in a deep fryer. You know what I'm saying? Your own home fries, your own homemade chips or whatever. Sure, yeah, man. And some. And Mac and cheese. But the kind that comes with the cheese.
C
Squeeze the Velveeta.
A
Yeah, man.
B
These guys are the real ones.
C
You guys are true dirt bags. And I love it.
D
Anything that. Anything that is in sausage form. That's what I fuck with. That's my favorite Kielbasa Hillshire farm. Is that a sausage?
B
Yes, it is.
D
Okay. And I liked it burnt a little bit.
B
You gotta burn that 100%. Blister it.
D
Yeah, you gotta make it like twice the size.
C
Mm. Are there any red solo cups in the house right now?
D
Yeah, Well, I think it's like in some green and purple ones.
C
Okay.
D
We throw all kinds of, like, holiday parties for, like, the kids sports teams and all that. So whatever Holiday club season.
C
I know. It's really cool. Oh, sorry.
B
Any fireworks at the house?
A
Yeah.
C
Okay. You guys travel with it on the bus at all ever?
D
I used to make bottles. Bombs.
C
Okay. I wonder why the FBI is on your ass.
D
But ever since they started selling, like, the. The good fireworks in Michigan, every year, our Fourth of July, we go ham.
A
Oh, my God. He's. That's an understatement.
D
We buy like five to ten thousand dollars worth of fireworks.
C
Christ.
D
Yeah. And then my Boy comes over and we, like, he. We hook it up so it's all like, done on the phone and fucking, like the fuses go off by themselves and all that shit. And then after the grand finale, everybody, we. We just got piles of Roman candles. We have the biggest Roman candle fight ever. Every man for himself. You just go in the woods and everybody just lights each other up.
A
With Roman, I went to his house, all right, Last fourth of July, and I was there. And I was in the actual explosion.
D
Yeah, I'm down there lighting them hoes, everything.
A
I was in the actual explosion. Like, I was exploding on his lawn, in the back lawn. This giant fucking acreage with nothing but bombs going off.
B
And I was.
A
I was in the middle of them and I don't know how my skin didn't shred and my guts didn't fly.
D
Out because I, I. Yeah, there's no, like, there's no, there's no professional pyro technique there. I picked up on nobody with a license or nothing. How. How we still all have our fingers and no clue. Like, I probably should have blew something off a long time ago, man.
C
How many suits do you guys own?
D
Like, you know suits.
C
Yeah, you gotta go to like a wedding or something.
D
You know, it's crazy because I used to own a lot more because I used to go to court a lot, so, you know, he had to get court suits.
B
Sure, we know.
D
But I don't know, if I had to go to something with a suit, then I'll, like, just have to go buy one. But I got one suit that I've had that I. I probably gotta retire. But it's. It's all Stormtroopers on it. Yeah, it's like white with storm. The dog looks all like Stormtrooper.
C
Listen, you're losing that case and.
D
Hey, and I wore that everywhere. Fancy that. You need a suit that I'm rocking. A Stormtrooper.
B
Are you a Star wars guy?
D
Look at the front the of my neck. What do you think?
B
Yeah.
C
Shit.
B
Big star.
D
I know I peeped the fucking TIE fighter right when I said that.
B
Back there.
A
Oh, yeah, over there.
B
I got a ship back there.
D
Yeah. You know what's up about Star Wars?
B
What?
D
Trying to collect this. You can't, man. You go broke and you'll never have.
A
Enough room for this.
B
Do you. With the Micro Galaxy Squadron?
D
Yeah, yeah, they're. My adats are like my. My thing like the best.
B
Do you love rebels?
D
I watch. I know all. I know.
B
I know that.
D
I know all of it.
B
Ahsoka. Was great.
D
Ahsoka, of course. Fucking the acolyte. Suck dick.
B
Yeah.
C
Brutal.
D
Yeah.
B
Down with the Mandalorian.
D
I never thought that star. A product of Star wars would come out. That I would not just not like. But think, man. That was fucking horrible.
B
Yeah. Crazy.
D
Even the fucking. Even the sequels, I'm like, yeah, but if you watch it not part of the story. They're not bad.
B
They're not that bad.
D
No, they're definitely like big budget and they're pleasing to the eyes.
B
What about Cassian? You like that? That's dog. That's good stuff.
D
Andor Forget about it. Good stuff.
B
Come on.
C
Me and Jay have checked the out.
D
Come on, man. I'm. I'm. They're coming out with us. Obi Wan Season 2. I don't know how they canon up with that man a little bit. What the is he doing hanging out with Princess Leia when she was a baby and she don't remember what the.
B
Creeping on him and. And Luke doesn't remember what the fight in his house. Yeah, but those fights between Vader and him were.
D
Come on, dog.
B
Fantastic.
D
Yeah.
B
All right.
C
Let's get back on brand theater.
D
Enough nerd shit.
C
What was. What was the name of. If you remember Darth Vader?
D
Yeah, he's my favorite.
C
Absolutely. What was the name of the first strip club you went to?
D
The Atlantis.
B
No.
D
Was it the Dizzy Duck?
C
Oh, Dizzy Duck's a great Atlantis.
D
No, no, no, no, no.
A
18.
D
It's the one on Michigan and Wyoming right inside. Right there in Michigan. Not the Atlantis that was in. That's in Lincoln Park. Fuck it. I was 14.
C
Damn.
D
And I fucked. Well, what I did was I clipped fucking hair off a wig and I used that liquid latex sit and glued it like. Like strand by strand, made a mustache so it didn't look hokey. And then I went, oh, that was the Atlantis. But I went in with my homie. We got kicked out. They're like, what are these little fucking kids doing in here?
B
I got a mustache, lady.
D
I don't know how we got past the door. Guys. Guy.
C
But that's great.
B
That's fantastic.
C
Jay, do you remember? You're the Atlantis.
A
Oh, yeah. The Atlantis. It was only 18 to get in and we started. Man, we've been going to strip clubs our entire career.
C
You still go?
A
Oh, no, not anymore. But all over the country. Every strip club there is. We've been in there five or six times.
C
What do you think the best is? The best. I've never. We're not.
D
We used to like to go to scummy shitty ones.
A
Yeah, because that's the chance you can. That's the kind of place you can drag something out.
D
On top of that, you could, you could, you could kick back and actually have fun.
B
Fun.
D
You know what I'm saying? And you know, you know, you ain't got all these trying to hustle.
A
We don't go to one of these places where it's like, you know, it's all super expensive.
D
We don't go to the gentleman's club. We go to titty bars.
B
What about Magic City? Do you with Magic City?
D
No, that's too big.
A
Okay, that's.
D
Nah, that's. That's too much.
A
Everybody's walking around. There's a guy in the bathroom with the mints and the deodorant and all that. We don't go to them kind of place.
D
If I gotta get them all a bathroom, a dollar to take a shit.
C
Why are you at the strip clubs? Great.
D
Well, I, I took a little extreme.
B
Do we do cologne? Are we cologne guys?
A
Nah, I am. What do you like? I. I wear that savage once again.
D
When I was single, I would wear the Aqua du Jour.
C
You rocked a cologne shout out. Aqua du Jour.
B
That's good. Now that you're married. You hung it up. You retired it.
D
I just, I don't like the smell of this. I wouldn't wear it for me trying.
B
To bring them in.
D
You know what I'm saying? I like it gives me heartburn smelling that.
C
That's funny. If you have a preference, Pizza Hut or Domino's.
D
They both suck.
A
Domino's sucks ass. But Pizza Pizza Hut has those, those two slices on top of each other now.
C
Oh, I haven't seen that.
D
You know, covered pizza.
A
And it's like a. It's like a sandwich. It's two slices on top of each other. And they got like buffalo chicken version and they got like a. I don't know. It's good though. So Pizza Hut is coming back.
D
Domino's pizza is the worst ever made. But their garlic knots and like their wings, they said everything but their pizza is okay. But the pizza is the worst. It's like I, I've. I made a solemn vow to myself back in the day I would never eat dominoes.
C
I'm the other way. I'm more Domino's now than Pizza Hut all around.
D
Remember how magical Pizza Hut was when you were a kid?
C
They lost it. Listen, they ran in 90s and they lost it. But they're bringing back. I don't know if you've seen. They're bringing back some. The Of. Of the. In dining, the buffet and the experience. They're trying. It's too late.
D
It's too late, man.
C
I gotta give them that. They're trying, huh?
D
Because everything else was failing.
C
I know. Because they had. They had a rough time.
D
I remember there was the most wig blowing when they announced Pizza Hut would be delivering. I was like, what the.
B
It was really the beginning of the end.
C
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
C
Have either one of you ever saved a crown royal bag?
D
No, I used to.
C
No, but I.
D
But I can not one up you. I can one down you. When I was a teenager, I'd. I'd take all the labels off the Colt 45 40s that I drink and paste them to my wall. So my whole wall is like wallpaper.
B
Like a football tackles. That's awesome, huh?
C
Okay. Okay.
A
Save the crown royal bag.
C
That's a big one. Because a dirt bag sees that it's purple and it's cloth. You're like, I could use this for something. You know what I mean? This is too expensive to talk.
D
Use that to put my tabs in.
B
Will you guys dance at a wedding?
A
I. I will.
B
Yeah.
D
I mean, I don't like to, but I'll do it.
B
Okay.
D
Me and my wife. Me and my wife. Well, she. She stuck with it and she was a. She did competitions and all that ballroom dance.
B
Okay.
D
And I want. I. I started going too, because my whole goal was to go to a wedding and just make everybody look like.
C
Yeah.
D
You know what I'm saying? But I didn't make it that far.
B
Gotcha.
D
But we're going back like, because, like, she would like, dance with some dude and I. I dance with some chick learning how to do it.
B
Really.
D
But we want to go back and just learn how to do it together.
B
That's the sweetest thing.
D
You know what I'm saying? And then just go, Just go to. I'll crash a wedding and just fucking murder everybody on the dance floor.
B
Let's say somebody's getting married. All right. One of your friends, kids, Close friends, kids, let's say. All right. What are we looking in the envelope? What do we do?
D
What do you mean?
B
Gift wise?
D
Oh, fuck. I didn't know until recently you're supposed to give fucking that.
B
This cake was.
D
I just been showing up, man.
A
If I care about the person off, man. Yeah, yeah. I chip them off. Probably like two or three grand.
C
Two, three grand.
D
Pens upon how much I'm sitting on at the time. You Know what I mean?
B
Right.
C
Wait, that still fluctuates like that?
D
Yeah, man.
B
Really?
D
You bet.
B
You know what you're sitting on right now?
D
I'm sitting on some.
We gotta get our ass back out there and do some more shows.
B
You got. You're on tour right now, right?
A
You guys are going to.
D
We just. We just got. We just wrapped it up. Yeah.
C
Okay. Two, three grand is. That's. That's a great couple grand.
D
A couple grand? That's. That's. That's.
A
You know, somebody gave that to me when I got married, you know, so I was like, damn, I appreciate that. So I've been following that. You know what I mean?
B
When.
A
If I care about somebody and they're getting married, that's my wedding gift. You know what I mean?
C
Fantastic. Yeah.
D
You didn't give me.
B
How was this work?
C
I didn't give him anything either, Jay.
B
How was his wedding?
A
I wasn't there.
B
Oh, you weren't.
A
You were there.
D
What the fuck? He was there for a little bit, but in all fairness, he was only at his own wedding for a little bit.
C
Holy.
A
No, his wedding was beautiful, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
D
I got all fucked up on Soma's and had to go to the hotel room and take a nap for a while.
C
That's crazy, dude.
D
Well, the thing is, like, I broke my neck, so, like. Okay, so, like, I started after I started getting degenerative disc disease. So basically, like, it's. My whole neck is fused right now.
Wrestling.
B
No.
D
Oh, wrestling. And then stage diving as well. I broke it twice. Once wrestling, one stage diving, man. But. But, like. So at my wedding, I was in the middle of a bout of degenerative disc disease, so basically, I was, like, locked up like a idiot.
C
So you needed. Right.
D
Well, I didn't need as many as I was taking.
C
He's trying to give you the benefit.
B
What's the point of that, Right?
C
Yeah.
D
I don't know how to be responsible. You know? Who takes fucking one?
C
Fucking nerds. I mean, listen, I don't. You know, I think. I think we got them both dead to rights. They're fucking trash.
B
I tell you what. Unbelievably solid, guys.
C
Great, great, great story.
B
Unbelievable. What you've done, the people that you've brought together. It really is fucking an American success story. And it's fantastic.
C
It's really.
A
We love you both.
D
Yeah, A lot.
A
We appreciate that. Big time, man. You guys are the man.
C
Thank you.
D
What's. What's.
B
What's.
D
What's. I guess better or worse is garbage or trash? Like if you're trash, is that like, I think trash? You call somebody trash, is that worse than calling them garbage?
B
I feel like it is trash, trash. Saying trashy is a little bit of endearing. It's like you call somebody trash, that's kind of mean we're garbage.
D
To me, you two certainly aren't. To me, if you, if you use the word crap, sometimes it's more impactful than like, what is this crap?
B
Yeah.
D
To me, that's worse than what is this?
C
A little more degrading. Yeah.
B
Like, what is this crap?
D
It's so bad, you can. Don't even give it a curse word.
B
We like, we like to keep it light hearted. You two are rock solid guys, but 100%.
D
Thank you.
B
Gentlemen. The new album out the knot, right?
A
Yes.
B
Check it out, guys. We love you, Kippy. You got anything for them?
C
Guys, we're on tour right now. Tour dates available at our you, garbage.com, the Met, affiliates. Our biggest show ever. We're coming home December. Get them tickets. We'd love to see you there, guys.
B
We love you.
C
Yeah, appreciate you.
A
Love you too, man.
B
We love you. We'll see you next week.
Episode: Insane Clown Posse!
Released: December 4, 2025
Hosts: Kevin Ryan & H. Foley
Guests: Violent J & Shaggy 2 Dope (Insane Clown Posse)
This episode of "Are You Garbage?" dives into the lives of Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope from Insane Clown Posse (ICP). The hosts, Kevin Ryan and H. Foley, put the iconic duo through their signature comedic "garbage" test—exploring childhood struggles, wild teenage hustles, the Juggalos' subculture, run-ins with the FBI, and the grit it took to build ICP into a legendary musical and cultural phenomenon. The tone is raw, hilarious, and sometimes poignant as the group discusses poverty, hustling, success, and everything in between, peppered with Detroit nostalgia, wild anecdotes, and some real talk about happiness, family, and sticking it out.
On poverty and hustle:
"I worked over 50 jobs before I started rapping for a living." —Violent J (08:44)
On lawsuits:
"You guys are the first guys to ever sue the FBI. And I fucking respect.” —Kevin (03:11)
On money:
“If I'm trying to save money... it's gone.” —Violent J (25:28)
On Star Wars collecting:
"Trying to collect this—you go broke and you'll never have enough room for this.” —Shaggy (54:12)
On career durability:
“People that quit… that’s who doesn’t make it.” —Shaggy (31:52)
“Don’t end up where the wind blows you, man. It doesn't have to be no big shiny, fancy... can be whatever you love.” —Violent J (33:33)
On fireworks:
"We buy like five to ten thousand dollars worth of fireworks... My boy hooks it up, so it's all done on the phone. Piles of Roman candles—biggest Roman candle fight ever." —Shaggy (52:17)
On being garbage:
"Anything that is in sausage form, that’s what I fuck with... That’s my favorite... And I liked it burnt a little bit." —Shaggy (51:24)
"You guys are true dirt bags, and I love it." —Kevin (51:22)
"I have no clue how to hold on to money." —Shaggy (24:43)
On their audience:
"Now we actually do have hits in a different format. It's because of TikTok or social media hits... We hear a scream from the crowd... we look at each other like, what the...?" —Violent J (30:31)
The episode is candid, hilarious, self-deprecating, and steeped in Detroit/Midwestern working-class grit. Jay and Shaggy joke openly about their scrappy past, laugh about scams and "garbage" habits, but also get deep about what real happiness and success mean. Hosts Ryan and Foley match them beat for beat, creating an atmosphere where no detail is too trashy and no wound is too old to get a laugh.
If you listened to this episode, you learned:
New Album: The Knot is out now.
Tour Info: Insane Clown Posse & Are You Garbage dates at their respective websites.