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Earth's Hidden War with Aliens - Patrick Jackson - DEBRIEFED ep. 53
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Sierra Network is an AI based defense network that is wrapped around the planet and it's been here for pretty much forever. So it uses three layers of sphere architecture and is responsible for many paranormal effects including Holtegeist activity. And you can see the type 1B formation right here. And this is the type 2.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Okay. And they're illuminated because they're powered up.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
They're ready to go.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
They're ready to. They're ready to do what? What exactly does go mean? Fire a directed energy weapon?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Possibly, yeah. Oh my God.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And now it blew up and it's in outer space and it's no longer there.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So this was taken over Florida. And again, you can see the type 2 and the type 1 deformation right there. The type 1's here and the type 2 is taken off a cruise ship. This was over Barcelona. And then here you've got multiple examples of the same thing all over the. All over the world, all different times.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
They're always in this formation, always in the same formation. Do you speculate that the United States government, or at least some faction of it, is complet aware of this system?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
A friend of mine was in 30 East Drive. He was laying on the sofa. He said there was a big flash and he opened his eyes and he saw a woman standing and looking over him and she was in uniform. We did a search on the uniform and it was Space Force.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So what does that mean? Wait, hold on. What does that mean?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I think Space Force is well aware of it and I think that they probably work in tandem with them. We were filming this tunnel. Some of the sensors went off. We saw something like a figure, what looks to be Like a large grey kind of guy with big teardrop eyes. And he walks up to the strobe, looks down, looks at us and carries on walking. The problem is because we live on the surface and we produce all these high energy emissions that are going into space. We are announcing where we are exactly to trillions and trillions of solar systems with trillions and trillions of planets. All it takes is one of them to say, oh, you have something we want. The odds are against us.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
The Dark Forest Theory.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Hi, Patrick from Germany here. In July 2013, in Germany, near the French border, around 10:30 at night, my.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Partner and I saw a massive pitch black triangular craft that just descended and.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Stopped just 10 meters or 30ft above us. It had three bright lights, made no sound whatsoever and seemed to paralyze us. We couldn't move or react.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And the triangle, then, after performing a.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Sharp zigzag movement, shot off into the sky, just leaving streaks of light behind.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
It was so fast, we couldn't believe it. We felt confused, almost like time had warped.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That moment completely changed me forever.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Before I was a strict atheist and.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Now I just know that there's more out there.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
By your smile.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
I was tempted. Ladies and gentlemen, today I would like to welcome to the skiff Patrick Jackson, author of the Sphere Network. Now, I was really interested in the work that he's been doing because as some of you know, at home, I've also myself been sort of toying with this hypothesis of a network that is interacting with us. And it seems like you've done a lot of work into this little network or this large network, I should say, and I'm looking forward to discussing that with you today. Welcome, Patrick.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Thank you very much for having me.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Absolutely. Now, you flew in from the uk.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yes.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
You're in Cambridge.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Exactly, yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah. So thank you for making the trip out here. I hope it was seamless. I know it was a long trip.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
It was a long one, but it was fun.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So Patrick, so we're going to be looking through at first now, just for the audience at home, you stressed the importance of running me through this slideshow prior to our conversation. So we're going to have a conversation, we're going to delve into hypotheticals and all sorts of fun stuff. But prior to that, you Thought it was really important that I and the audience sit through a quick little slideshow letting us know exactly technically what exactly it is we're dealing with. But prior to getting into this, can you just give us like an oversight of what the Sphere Network is?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, the Sphere Network is an AI based defense network that is wrapped around the planet and it's been here for pretty much forever. It uses three layers of sphere architecture, is controlled from the ground up, and it's responsible for many paranormal effects, including poltergeist activity.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Interesting.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's where my interest started, was actually trying to reverse engineer what poltergeists were. I come from a background of IT and databases and reverse engineering. And I've always been like yourself, a very big skeptic of stuff. So I decided to hire out the most aggressive poldiguist house in the UK just to see if I could see anything. And I was there for four days and it was the longest four days of my life because within 15 minutes of being in the place, crazy stuff started happening.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Really?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
You documented this?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Oh yeah, it's all on tape, Everything's all documented and yeah, but what I went in there specifically for was to start to see if I could notice any patterns because 30 East Drive is a very small building, so it's very easy to start spotting the patterns compared to say a big building like a castle.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Because. Because you just wouldn't be able to. It's so large, you wouldn't be able to see anything going on. There'd just be noises all over the place.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
But in 30 east drivers, because it's so small, it's actually very straightforward to reverse engineer what's going on there because it's pretty much the same patterns keep reoccurring.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Now you say 30 East Drive. For those in the audience, maybe like myself, who aren't familiar, this is a haunted house. A famous haunted house in the uk.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. It's actually voted one one of the most aggressive poltergeists in the uk. In fact, the police don't even go in there.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Really?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. So over and it's been active for going on I think 30, 40 years. And he's had an army of priests go in there, he's had investigators going there, has had everything and it's still there and it still does, does all the same things.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
It's like a murder or something.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, I mean they try, they try and tie it to a priest who died there or something going back 40 years, but.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
But you have another idea of what this could Be.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, the fact in England, UK specifically, is that you'll be lucky to find a bit of ground where someone didn't die, you know, because of our history and all that. So, you know, you could take any bit of land and say, oh, someone died there 400 years ago, you know. But what. What these investors, what the mainstream paranormal investigators do is like a building will become active, and then all they do is they just hit the history books because they just assume it's dead people. And then they find, oh, there's a murder there 30, 40 years ago. They've come back to haunt it, and that's really it. And they roll with it, you know, and that's how. That's how the mainstream deals with it. But my approach was very different. I just went in there as a blank sheet and to start to see what I would find. Because what I noticed very first was the behavior patterns in this building specifically are not human behavior patterns. You know, humans have a very distinct behavior pattern. They're quite sociable creatures. Even. Even the bad ones, you know, even the ones in jail, they're very. So they're still sociable creatures. And. And they want to communicate, you know. And the fact is that, is that everyone's like. Everyone has an auntie who talks too much, you know, and tells the world everything. So if. If she died and she could get talked back to you somehow, she'll be telling the world, oh, it's awesome here. You know what I mean?
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
You know, you wouldn't just be moving stuff around.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
No. What you get in Poldiguy specifically is you get banging, scratching objects, thrown things.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Catching fire, cupboards opening, closing.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right. Yeah. You get. You get strange electrical effects. You get headaches, you get nausea, you pass out. Very. All very distinctive patterns. And this replicates all around the world.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah. And for those wondering where a good example of this might be, you don't have to look any further than what's happening on Skinwalker Ranch, really. And the history there of a large, vast history of poltergeist activity there. But not only that, just like you said, you've got people falling ill to what seems like some type of radio radiation sickness.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Correct. Yeah. Because it's the same thing all over the world. It's the same system all over the world.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Okay. So, I mean, this is really interesting. So all of a sudden we go from. You know, I didn't expect this turn, I'll be honest. Like when we started discussing this, to go from poltergeist activity. You know, I Can jump from that to aliens pretty quickly. Like myself, I can go, no, it's interdimensional beings. But going from what we're going to be looking at now in a second is we're going from poltergeist activity to AI. Yeah, I did not expect that leap. Can you talk us a little bit through that?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, I just have to get you to this slide here. So.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
We'Re going to be pulling these slides up as well in post so that you guys can follow along.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So just to give an example, this here is 30 East Drive. And you can see it's a normal building, brick building. And then you've got this bit attached to the side of it. And this bit here is the most important part.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
That's the haunted part.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's where the main events occur. Like the banging occurs. But actually all the activity occurs on the top floors here. But this is where the actual banging occurs down here. So if you. This is actually the staircase inside the building. And if you get your meters out, if you walk up these stairs right here, you'll feel dizzy. Every time you walk past these steps, you feel dizzy. And it's not. It's like. It's like a sudden dizziness. That's the way you describe it. But also if you have like your EMF detectors and other detectors and stuff, if you put it, put it at the top here, you'll get a very high electrical emissions, like literally off the scale. It's very high energy.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Really?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And you have footage of that and.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Documents all on my YouTube and X and stuff. It's all documentary.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Interesting.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So even if you turn, all the power off in the house is still there.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Electromagnetic fields.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, yeah. And you can say, okay, that's very strange, it shouldn't be there.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Is that like. Could that be like cell phones? Could that be like.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
No, no, because I'm the only one in there.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Or everybody else is outside or something. And this energy source is very pacific. And you can actually. It moves around. So you can. You can, you can put your detector there. It will go down and you put it up there and it goes up again.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Interesting.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So it's like, it's a. It's a high energy source that's moving around. And so this is the same staircase right here. And what people are seeing are these like, black masses moving around. This is actually very common. People see this a lot. They mostly see it in basements and ethics. And it looks like a black mass that moves really fast. It's like, it'd be there and then goes like that real quick. It's like instant acceleration. It can move without weight or resistance and it moves at a set rate of speed and it moves in a digital way. So it's not like speeding up. It just goes like that very, very fast. So I got hold of this image here. And this is the black mass as it goes past. And what you see this is like a filtered image to bring out the detail. And you have a lot of noise all up here. But then right in the middle here, just the top center, you see what looks to be a small bowl or sphere. And that kind of caught my interest because I was like, well, that's an artificial shape in noise. You know, that's from an it point of view. That's like.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right. A round object is, would be artificial.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right, right.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Digital object might be a little bit more jagged.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Correct. Yeah, yeah. So this is another image I got hold of and this here is again filtered image. And what comes out is a small silver ball.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
About the size of a baseball and it's hovering off the ground. And when I saw this I was in my. Because what, what my process was, I, I, I spent four days there and I had it all filmed and then I went, took it towards my workplace and then I'd start finished work at like 5:30 and I would work from 5:30 to 7:30 every night for like three months to try and find something in the noise, you know, something I.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Could just looking through footage, just looking.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I was obsessed with it prior to AI. Oh yeah, this is all before, before all that.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
A lot easier today.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. And so I was really obsessed with it. I would like wake up in the morning, five in the morning and it would be just on my head. It was like a machine in my head. And um, I explain it to people and they think, you know, it's, it's crazy, but it's like I, it's like I have a machine in my head that goes through all these different models. Like you can take all these data points and you can it.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
It can model all these different ideas and stuff and essentially a computer and I can't do it with anything else. I can't do it with maths or anything, but I can do it with this for some reason. And so anyway, I finally saw this and when I saw it it was like all the jigsaw puzzles parts all just click together.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So prior to this you didn't have working theory.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I had a couple, but they all fell through very quick.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
I see. And so, yeah, the whole sphere network theory wasn't something you were looking for?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
No.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right. Okay. I think that's an important distinction here because going into something like this, having, you know, some bias, could definitely. You could see how, okay, maybe that's a sphere, maybe that's this, maybe that's that.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I had this other theory which I worked on for a while, but it fell through within 15 minutes. I had a theory called quantum mirroring. That was it. And what it was, was I kind of thought, well, okay, well, if. Maybe there's a way that we're like in a. Like a parallel or the timelines can cross, something like that. And then you see projections from the past.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Sure.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And I was thinking, well, what can do?
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Valid idea, I think. Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And I thought, well, what can do that? You know? Well, gravity itself is connected to time. Maybe the alignments of the planets could somehow bend the timelines to cross over and then you see shadows of the past, something like that. And for a while I thought, that's a pretty valid one. That might work also.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Sounds like astrology.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. Yeah. So I thought, well, because there's also a degree of clockwork when it comes to these paranormal stuff. So I thought, well, stars are clockwork because they have a certain pattern and movement and the timing. So maybe the changes in the gravitational effects of the planets can affect the timeline, which can cause a blur, kind.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Of like the moon affects the tide.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. But the more I thought about it, the more it kind of fell to pieces. Because if that was the case, it wouldn't just be happening in one location, it would be happening everywhere.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Good point. Okay.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
You know what I mean? So everyone be seeing the same thing all over the planet. And then when I was in 30 East Drive on my first night, I was just upstairs and I just said, is anyone here? You know, and the door banged eight times. And I was like, well, there's no one downstairs. And I got that on tape as well. And there's no one there, and it's a sealed door and no one can get there. And it was very distinct. Huh. And I'm thinking to myself, okay, well, that. That broke that theory.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So that I just started from scratch again.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And I mean, as. As a magician and an entertainer, the first thing that I think is there's someone down there.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Or there's some sort of mechanics or technology.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Exactly. And. And so was there any way of ruling that out?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Oh, yeah. You can just go in there. It's just like an empty concrete room.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And the door and that's it. It's all sealed. There's nothing there. There's no. There's no. It's not like there's air going in and causing a suction or anything like that. It's a. It's a. Just a room.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah. We're assuming that this is paranormal, though. But there is, like, a part of me has to remain a little skeptical for that, because if this is a famous haunted hub, then, you know, rightfully there would be a reason to attract, you know, tourism to it as well. Am I incorrect?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, originally it was a private house. Right. But then after this, the. Because this has been haunted 30, 40 years. And if. Yeah, in the beginning, it was. It was a private house, but then eventually the people who owned it sold it to who owned. Guy who owns it now. Guy called Bill. And obviously, no one wants to buy it because it's. It was.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
But Bill probably runs tours and stuff. Like.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, he rented out. Yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Like, for me, that's, like, always got to be up there as well. Like, I mean, there is. Obviously that doesn't negate what we're seeing here, but it does. It should be added to the equation.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Oh, exactly. Yeah. And I. I would. I would think the same thing if I hadn't seen it before, but again, I. I just went in there, like, as a clear kind of like a. Yeah, like unbiased. Let's just go to see what I find.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Sure.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And this. This is what. This is what I found. So, yeah, we. We spied this. This small silver ball hovering off the ground. And when I saw that, it was like, okay, Eureka. And in fact, when I. When I. I've been working so long at this, when I saw it, I actually started shaking. It was like some sort of shock hit me, and I was like, oh, fuck.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Ontologically.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, because it completely changes or remaps your brain. And I was like, oh, my God. And I actually went down. I had to go down the pub and just drink myself down a pint. Down quite a few pints and sort of process it. And I was just sitting there like this, just like, staring into space for four or five hours afterwards because it all started clicking into place. So what you have really is, in this case, you have. It's basically a small.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
There's a video.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
No, this is a still shot, but there are videos of this somewhere. So. Yeah, let me just move to another shot. This is, again, four pictures of the same thing. And in this case here, you see it flying towards the door because it's got a trail behind it. This trail has also been replicated over skinwalker on their IR cameras. They have like a distinctive trail going by. It's like a lensing effect as they go by. And then this one here, then goes here, then it ducks back and then it sits there for a little while.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, it's wild. That's clearly, you know, there's clearly something.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Something there.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah. It's not just like a technical error on behalf of the camera. There's actually a. Some type of physical or non physical object or light source running through.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right, yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
That's interesting.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And then you got examples from 1903 where they are seeing like these glowing.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Spheres entering the home.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Flying through home.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
That's right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And back then, you know, even today they say oh, ball lightning, you know. But we'll get into that later because it's not ball lightning.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
I mean even ball lightning is inexplicable.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So yeah, so these objects, what they can do is a thing called quantum tunneling, which means that they can pass through solid objects. And it's amazing to watch because I've been in 3rd East Drive where we've got the camera set up and you see these little balls on the IR camera in the upstairs room and they'll fly through the ceiling into the lounge, do a couple of curls, then go up again. So it's clearly intelligent flight control. It's not like just random dust blowing around. But that's what this is, a depiction of what people were seeing in 1903. So this here is a few examples. So this was taken in the US So this was taken in the English field and this was taken in 30 East Drive. And you can see it's the same.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Little ball, little light orbs.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Light ball, yeah. The only difference is in this state here it's like in a low power state where all you see is like a silver ball and here as well. But in this one here you see it's glowing. And this is where people get confused where saying it's plasma orbs or silver spheres and things. But they're not, they're the same thing. What it is is that when these things are powered up or how it logically maps out is when these things are powered up, they're producing a high energy field around them which is energizing the gas molecules in the, in the, in the environment in surrounding them, which then produces a glow. It's, it's the same process as lightning in electric storms. The only difference is in electric storms you have a Buildup of charge, you see a big lightning strike and then it powers down again. Because in nature, nothing is constant. It's in a constant state of flux. But in this case, you see just a constant ball of light, which means the power source is artificial. So you've got to ask yourself, okay, so why are these small spheres in buildings themselves? Why are they there?
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Sure.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Why would they be performing physical actions to move people away? And why are people getting physically affected? So there's three things that these a drone would need to use, regardless of how advanced the technology is. One, it needs to send and receive signals. Two, it needs a network. And three, it needs AI. So this is also key to the repetitive actions as well. Because the door is a repetitive action, it keeps on looping. It's the same effect. So what you have is an AI process, a process that's occurring to execute.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
A position to action.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And it works. So the question is if, okay, so if, if these, if these are drones, I mean, have, has any like signals been received or anything? And the answer is yes. So what I'd done was I managed to sample the signals that are coming from these spheres at the time inside the building, and this is it. It's right here. So what it appears to be is an 18 bit signal. And you have two synchronization bit switches here and here. And then you have the main data packet right here. So what it appears to be is it's doing a thing called burst relaying. So it will power up, it will burst relay, send and receive signals, and then power down again. When it's powered up, it appears to be transmitting microwave data, but also it has a gamma radiation byproduct. And I think this is why it produces actions to move people away. But we'll get into that in a minute.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So you're essentially the theory is that these smaller spheres that are on camera here floating around, or that people are seeing with the naked eye or on their nest cams or whatever it is, are part of a network. Now their job primarily is to get people out of the way, is to move people in a certain direction based on an AI system that like triggers that event.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Correct. So the pre coded library of actions.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So like a library of actions, meaning a rap at the door or a vase falling off the counter and you have to go and clean it up or something?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right. It appears to either want to force you away from itself or lock you in place.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So if I was playing the Sims, you know, you know the game Sims, right. And I was to, you know, drop something in the kitchen. What happens to that sim?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right. He stays there to clean it up.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
He goes into the kitchen, hears a noise, a little bubble, he goes, ah, that's right. And he sweeps it up. And so in that time you're proposing that that sphere is maneuvering through the house or it's transmitting, or it's transmitting something and it doesn't want you to fall ill. Right, Yeah, I see, okay.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
It's all to do with the inverse square law radiation.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
It seems so far fetched, I'm not going to lie. But what's interesting, you know, hearing it right now seems far fetched, but it's interesting how once you start going into all the other sort of macro sphere of the sphere network, you're starting to see things that we can actually identify, you know, with cameras and airplanes and different sightings. And so this is like the microcosm of that sphere network, which, you know, is for me like the hardest pill to swallow out of all of this.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So if you. So as I said with, you have this drone, basically it's just a drone that flies around your house, or it's not just your house, it, it's like any network, it has to go where it needs to go the most optimal route.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So sometimes it will be like in a field, sometimes you'd be in a woodland, sometimes it was just a hole in the ground, sometimes a cave, sometimes under a bridge, all these areas. So it's a network that goes where it needs to go, but sometimes it has to route through populated areas and then it uses buildings. And in fact, if you map all the haunted buildings in the uk, I mean this is just a sample, but it makes a clear example if you look, they operate in lines and clusters, which basically mirrors our own microwave based communication networks. Point to point. It works really, it works over topology.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So it relays the information.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And because it's not a straight line.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right, yeah. And because it's using microwaves, it means it's line of sight, which means it's stealth. Which means unless you're directing that line of sight, you won't be able to detect it. Which is exactly what be good for a stealthy network. So getting back to the building with the door banging, this here is a coal shed door and this is what was banging. And while I was up here in the bedroom area. Up here. Now the electrolynic emissions are occurring right here on the top floor above the stairs in the attic area. Okay. So what is actually going on here? So when this sphere needs to broadcast and you've got people in the immediate area, it will bang this door. Because if you look at the layout of the house, the coal shed door is the most furthest part of the building. Like this, right?
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Leading you away, leading you away.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So what it does is it will bang the door. Everybody in the building will run downstairs to hear, and then here see this thing banging, going, what's going on? You know, it must be, you know, dead Auntie Elvis or something. And as a result, when it broadcasts, it's going through 1, 2, 3, 4 walls. So the radiation's been absorbed by every single wall. So what it's doing, this is evidence of artificial intelligence, because it's basically measuring where you are and then saying, okay, you need to be over there in the next five seconds. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Everyone goes down.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
How is it banging? Is it actually like banging itself against it, do you think?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I think so. So these things can pass through walls. So they've been observed to do a thing called quantum tunneling, which was observed during World War II. This is the same. It's the same thing as the foo fires. So the foo fires used to fly into the aircraft, fly around and then fly out again. And they used to machine gun them and the bullets would just pass over them or through them and they wouldn't touch them. So what it appears to be is when it needs to broadcast, it will fly over here. Because these things, According to the US government, these spheres can go from zero to Mach 2 in a heartbeat. So what it can do, it can fly over here, bang the door, like just physically against itself, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then it will fly back again and then everyone goes rushing down once you're out of range.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Classic decoy.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Exactly, yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And this is throwing a rock.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. So this is why poltergeist activity all around the world has the same library of actions. It bangs doors, it makes scratches, it will throw objects, not generally at you, but sort of around you. It will also cause fires as well. So it causes all these diversion actions to move people away from itself.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So what do you make of poltergeist activity when there's no one around?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, I mean, it's an AI system. So it will just trigger. It will just trigger anyone. It's a process that triggers.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Because I see like NEST cam videos where a chair goes flying across the room or something, but then no one comes to see the chair. Yeah, yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I mean, it is an AI based system. That would just trigger, you know, but if it knows it's some observation, it'll probably do it anyway.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
If there's a camera there, it will just do it. So that's what it appears to be. And this is why people faint and feel sick in these buildings because it's not spirits attacking them. You're getting a radiation burst.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, it's the electro, is the microwave emission.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. So this here is a picture. This was taken off a YouTube video I found. And these guys here were getting all this weird poltergeist activity in this building and they looked up to the attic and they see a small silver sphere bringing the. In the, in the attic. And this is exactly how it models out. So depending on the type of building it is, the steer will operate in one or two locations. In modern brick buildings, say like a two floor building with a roof, it'll operate in the attic. While in wooden buildings like in the States you have like a single floor wooden building with a basement, it will operate in the basement itself. And it's because the, the basement is the most shielded part of that building, not the. Yeah, it can't broadcast in the same room. It will use the basement. But the problem with that is those buildings themselves are actually the most active ones because you've got high energy emissions going up and down and people are in the middle. There's a lot of actions to move these people away.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And that's why these buildings are the most active buildings.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Interesting.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I modelled that these spheres are producing gamma radiation and microwave bursts. And this was also picked up by, by a scientist, Jim Segala. He put these sensors inside these buildings where the people were having paranormal like phenomenon phenomena occurring. Yeah. And he picked up exactly what I said, which is gamma radiation and microwave bursts.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Effectively what you would need to send signals.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Exactly. Yeah. So you ask yourself, like, what's the physical effects of gamma radiation? Well, you have. You have nausea and vomiting, fatigue and tiredness, headaches, dizziness, fainting, redness on the skin, irritation, weakness in lethargy and cognitive impairment as well. All of these effects are common in people who go to paranormal locations.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right. And also common for a lot of people who interact with like in the abduction sphere or contactees or experiencers. You'll, you know, mirror a lot of this as well.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Just from simply the. Not necessary. Well, I mean, I was going to say, you know, perhaps the craft itself, but maybe that craft itself is also sending off microwave signals to something else that you're getting in the way of.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, maybe so. Yeah. When you watch these TV shows of people fainting in these buildings and they're thinking it's demons attacking them.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Being possessed, it's not. You're just getting a radiation dose.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
It's so wild to replace demons with A.I.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Oh, yeah.
- [33:08]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
I think as a theory it's really interesting.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So what happened to me was I was in the 30 East Drive and I was. When that door bang was occurring, I stayed upstairs because there were other things going on in that room. And I got brain swelling. My brain started to swell in my skull and it was terrible. Like I didn't know what it was at the time, but I felt this terrible pressure in my skull. And in three days I went from being quite a fluid thinker and fast to really bristle and short tempered because of how I felt. It was awful. But yeah, this is the same thing has occurred at Skinwalker Ranch as well where one of them got skin brain swelling when they got close to these radiation bursts. So what's the analysis? So what you have are these small, what I call type three spheres which they're creating a dynamic network that basically can move around to its needs. You have a main network which is quite rigid. So you have buildings that have been haunted for 30, 40 years constantly. And then you have the more dynamic. So you know, in networking terms there's a thing called load balancing whereby if the main route is too busy, right. Or it's too, or it's obstructed, it will work around it. And that's what appears to be sort of dynamic network will reroute signals and shift around, will shift around when it needs. So this is why new buildings with no history, with no nothing happening ever, are haunted. Are haunted. And I actually was called to a building in London a few years ago and this is, this building was, was, this house was like a $7 million house, beautiful house. And I said, oh, we just bought a place. No, we've had it for like six years. But we didn't move in. It's terrible here. I thought. You're kidding. No. And the, the, the house was. Again, they're having polygyctomy around the house and the, the daughters wouldn't live there. And the, the, the, the, the parents were scared to death, but they couldn't. What are they going to do? They can't sell it.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And no one wants it. So, so yeah, that, that's, that's the, that's what it appears to be. So this model here, which is what I produced a few years ago, I gave this model to Senator Gillibrand a year before the US UAP hearings. And they were, from what I hear, they were all excited, all impressed, wanted meetings and then the door slammed shut and never heard. We even went to her office. We went to her office and said what's going on? And didn't want to know. So what it appears to be is. So you have the Type 3s down.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Here, which are the little ones?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, these little ones. And this here actually represents the ground.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Sure.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So these here are like 10ft, 15, 30ft off the ground. Operating in buildings and so forth. And then what's happening is they're linking up to the type 2. These are like larger variants of the same technology.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
These are the ones that people catch on videos.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right. And they're always over treetop lines, basketball size. That's right, yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Okay.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And these are about, you know, maybe 2, 3, 300ft, something like that. And then what happens is they link up to the even larger variants called the type 1B formation.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Like giant triangular formation of spheres.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right. Okay, so this is this and those.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Are the type ones, the bigger ones.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right, I see.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Okay.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. So let's move on. So these are, these are here the type 2. So as you can see that they're literally about basket pool size. And they will hover above tree line tree lines. And they operate, they operate also in lines. So you have maybe have three in a line. So what it appears to be doing is that depending from the distance from the Type 3 data network which is on the ground, it then has like a low energy signal which then boosts up to a higher energy signal to the type 2s and then it really amplifies it to long distance transmissions. So that's what that appears to be used for.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Now, right away, people seeing that image that you previously had up there, you know where this is going, a lot of people go, oh, is that the buga sphere? Instantly, that's where people's heads are going to go. They're going to go bugasphere bet sphere or all these other spheres that have been caught. A lot of them, many of them in South America. But you know, that one specifically comes up because it's been in the kind of like cultural zeitgeist recently. Real quick, as a parenthesis, Buga sphere. What are we looking at?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
From what I can tell from the. Because I, I had people in the lab. The moment that was, was the bugasphere was, was found.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And I had a real good look at it. I wasn't me, I looked at it through the cameras, you know, what they sent me. And when you get a. Well from a distance it looks pretty good, but when you get it up close it's, it's basically man made.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
There's irregularities that to you depict as man made. Is that in the, in the etchings itself or in the construction of the sphere?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
In both. Okay, so in the, in the. Yeah, if you look close to it, you can see where they've got like a, some sort of scraping tool to mark out the patterns and then they haven't actually fully erased them out. Yeah. So. Yeah, from a distance. Well, from up close, you can see it has many errors.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So you're thinking hoax, complete hoax. Yeah. Okay.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. And also on the X ray, you see like a bell inside of it.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yep.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
But what they do is in the images, they put it sideways, but in fact, if you put it like vertically, what it appears to be is like a heavy weight, like a pendulum. And what it looks to be, from what I can tell is like a very basic stabilization unit or system. So when it flies, it doesn't pivot like this.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Because it'd be on a string.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, it's on a string. And this weight keeps it. Keeps it kind of more stable.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right. So it's not bobbing and it's not bobbing.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Oh, I see. And that. That would account for the impossible, like, you know, trajectory that it has. Because, yeah, you would think that if something was on a string, you could see clear, it's on a string. But we do have technology and like you said, that's pretty primitive. That's not a gyroscope, that's in there. But it's something pretty basic that would counteract or counterbalance the sphere in those motions. Wow, interesting.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. So that, that, unfortunately, that one.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Do you think. Sigh up.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I think I just think it's just a clever hoax. A clever hoax used for a lot.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Of attention on it.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
I mean, if this is real, what you're saying now, it would be a good reason to throw, you know, throw something in the mix like that.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I think so. Yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
I think boys in the.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, I think it's just a way of making money.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, fair enough. Okay, what are we seeing here?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So the sphere network, how it appears to work is through an algorithm which basically triggers on airborne activity that's out of place. And one of these is air shows. So when you have like unusual air show patterns, it triggers the V formations. And in fact, you can see them right here. And in this formation, it's like a triangle that's up on its side. And through the process, I'll show you later, it means that it's actually tracking these right here. So what it's doing is saying, who are you? Who goes there? And then, okay, you're okay. And then it disappears.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
This is something I've seen. I remember watching videos, multiple videos of air shows and someone, because they're incredibly fast, but they're zipping by and it's clearly a metallic sphere. You're like well, that's like not a balloon. And I'd always wondered, what's the point of that? Why are you demonstrating this? But this makes way more sense that it is some type of system that is just basically checking up, making sure everything's okay. Because this is anomalous. It's not a normal flight pattern. And that would make sense that the AI would pick that up. So there's a video I'll play right now of one of those little spheres. It was recently in the UK as well, where they had the jubilee or something. They were doing something. Oh yeah, they had like one of those spheres fly by. Okay.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So I noticed that there's these operating two main configurations. So what you have here, you have the type of two sphere here and then you have the V formation here. And it's actually like on a flat plane instead of being up on its side. And then you have another type 2 here and you have another type 1V formation again on its flat plane. So what it appears to be is the mathematics. I'll show you in a minute. But in this case, it's tracking two targets. And what it appears to be is that for every one type 2 sphere, it can control one single cluster of three. So yeah, this was taken over Italy.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Italy.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Italy, I believe. Yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Was there a sighting that day as well? Was there like another UFO in the area?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I don't know. I don't know.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Because that's usually what they're there for, right? They're there to like pick up anomalous aerial activity.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, the interesting thing is from the mathematics, you can determine, well, from the formation and the distance the type 1 spheres are, you can actually determine the distance and location of the object they're tracking.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right. And from the direction of where they're pointing.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
They would like you could triangulate where that is.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right, yeah. So this here took me a long, long time to figure out, but this is the, the, the mathematics of how the sphere network works. It's using a thing called trilateration. So this is how, this is how it basically works. You have the Type 3 data network, which is on the, on the, on the ground here. So the, the sphere, the sphere network, it appears to be ground based, so it's all controlled from the ground up, which is highly likely to be underground. So you have the type threes are operating loads of the ground which are then linked down to the servers wherever it's being controlled.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right. So there's like a type 4, perhaps even maybe it's underground.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well. Or there's some sort of network server or something. Yeah, server or network. So this is connecting up to the type 2 locally because it's a low energy signal to here. This is then amplifying that signal to another type 2 which is local to the type 1V formation. And then where the type 2 is and the position of this, you can determine where the target is.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
You can literally draw a line through the middle of that triangle from that type two.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And find an object.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, yeah. And what it's doing is a trilateration system which is actually the same process we use for our own mobile phone tracking.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Okay.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Where instead of using three spheres, we're using three satellites.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Oh, wow.
- [43:37]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So it's the same kind of mathematics behind it.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Interesting.
- [43:40]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
But this is obviously, this is a drone based system, so. Yeah, so this is, this system here is a very high resolution tracking and targeting system.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Okay. So hypothetically we have some terrestrial based intelligence doing reconnaissance and monitoring for some type of celestial body that's entering the atmosphere potentially.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. It's effectively like an air defense system, right?
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah. But an air defense of foreign, not human.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, external. Yeah, yeah. So from this equation up here as well, depending on the distance of the spheres themselves, you can determine the distance of the target. The wider these think these spheres are, the wider the triangle is, the more distant and the closer they are, the closer. Right. And it works out to be like 1 to 10. So for every like 1 meter, it works out a thousand meters in distance.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Okay.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. That's kind of like this baseline here. So yeah. This triangle here is doing a two dimensional scan of the sky. And then this fourth one here is doing a distance calculation. And when you fuse that data together, you get 3D tracking in space.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Interesting. Very cool. Show us some examples of this.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So this was over this over the UK coast. And you can see the type 1B formation right here. And this is the type 2.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Okay. And they're illuminated because they're powered up.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
They're ready to go.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
They're ready to. They're ready to do what? What exactly does go mean?
- [45:17]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, they're ready, they're ready to fire a.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Fire a directed energy weapon?
- [45:22]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Possibly. Yeah. Whoa.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Okay.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. When, when they're. So it's strange, they, they seem to have a color code system which I haven't quite worked out yet. But they, they glow either red, green or blue. So it's almost like a traffic light system. But from what I can tell. Yeah. When they're powered up like this, it means they're ready for business.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So do you think we saw some of these during that drone flap in Jersey? Oh yes, yeah, there was a lot of that there.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. In fact I looked at some of the footage from that and you can clearly see the formations.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Formations.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
But what's actually happening there is you have the sphere network doing its thing, which is always the same formations and process, but then you have other drones that are tracking it. So it appears to be to American drones, most likely fuel cell drones, because they can stay up. They're high performance drones. They can stay up in the air for a long time and they're quick refueling as well. And they appear to be tracking the sphere network because it's going around doing it.
- [46:21]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right. So you got the sphere network tracking the drones, the drones tracking the sphere network, and then the sphere network perhaps tracking more of those drones and then this exponential monitoring system where we start monitoring each other.
- [46:34]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And the interesting thing is that the drones that people are seeing over New Jersey appear to have FAA lights on them. So what it means is, is that the spheres are doing their own thing, but the, the drones that are tracking them are using FAA lights maybe to warn off other air traffic. That's how it logically.
- [46:55]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, I mean that's something. It's kind of a conclusion that I came to myself with, you know, this whole system talk. Was that what we were seeing in New Jersey, you know, perhaps could have initiated with some form of non human interaction that we had some type of spacecraft monitoring, maybe us, you know, moving around a dirty bomb or you know, playing around with, you know, nuclear stuff. And then that triggered you know, a set of perhaps, you know, monitoring non human intelligence. And then we sent our monitors and now we're just looking at like this incredible cluster.
- [47:35]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, it started after Russia launched a. I think it was an ICBM in Ukraine. Into Ukraine, Yeah. But it wasn't like armed with nuclear weapons.
- [47:46]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's when it started. So.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, because you had a lot of stuff happen at Lakenheath at that time as well. Right. It was like a massive flap there as well, which probably not harboring anything now, but I would suspect did have some nuclear arms, you know, in and around there. Probably explains Rendlesham as well.
- [48:08]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, if you think about it, if there is an ultra terrestrial presence on Earth, they don't want us to go nuclear because it ruins their, their house, home as well.
- [48:16]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
- [48:17]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So they're probably keeping a, keeping a tab on things.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
That's a good reason to keep them safe.
- [48:22]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. In fact, I've got footage recently of the type 1V formations are taking out rockets over the Middle east, over Israel and Iran as well. They don't seem to pick any sizes. They don't pick any particular sides.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, but that's not the Iron Dome doing that.
- [48:43]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
No, no, no, no, no, no. These are fixed triangles in the sky.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Oh, you see them?
- [48:47]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, yeah. You see them taking out missiles. So it appears that they're keeping things, a lid on things. Sure. But that's what it appears to be. So this was taken over Florida. And again you can see the type 2 and the type 1V formation, right? This and in this configuration, the Target is at 1 o', clock.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
- [49:06]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And then here you've got the other ones here, you've got the V4, the Type ones here. And the Type 2 is taken off a cruise ship. This one here you can actually see the source that is tracking as well.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Where is that from the top one.
- [49:17]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's from there. I can't pronounce that. It's funny.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
This was over Barcelona. And again you can see the daisy chaining. As I said in my model. Type 2B formation, one o' clock position.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Interesting.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And then here you've got multiple examples of the same thing all over the world, all different times.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
They're always in this formation, always in.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
The same formations, doing trilateration.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Could some of these just be prosaic? No, no, none of these, not one of these could be balloons, like gone off at a party or something?
- [50:39]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
No, no, this is all very, a very distinct process that keeps replicating.
- [50:44]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So and you base that on the measurement, the distance between the spheres. And like there's like, it's not just like a gut shot. You're measuring these things, you're looking at these things, making sure. Have you found any videos where you're like. That's clearly Balloons or. That's clearly. Because that's important too.
- [50:59]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I think there are people out there who do fake stuff.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Even like, not even, like, even accidentally. Like if you let something go to party, some Chinese lanterns or something, you might. You know, three Chinese lanterns in a cluster looks like a triangle, right? It is a triangle.
- [51:11]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. But the difference is that these triangles. Triangles are highly distinct. What's the word? Concise. Triangles.
- [51:19]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Which means that they are exactly the same distance apart.
- [51:22]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Equilateral.
- [51:23]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, equilateral. Because for. For trilateration to work, they have to be perfectly distanced.
- [51:29]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Okay. All right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. So this one here is obviously the. The space explosion. B roll. I suppose you can mix that in.
- [51:35]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
But yeah, put that in here. That was wild to look at. So a bit of context. This gentleman was just filming the stars.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right, yeah.
- [51:44]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And then what can you talk us through?
- [51:46]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So, yeah, this was filmed for a telescope a few years ago, way before any of the disclosure stuff that's happening now. If you can see that and you can see that planet over there, these small lights kind of start coming in.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So that's a planet?
- [52:02]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, he thinks.
- [52:03]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
He thinks it's a planet. Not sure because it's bright. And he's like, oh, there's something orbiting this planet. You can hear him saying that.
- [52:09]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Hmm.
- [52:11]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And so out of curiosity, he's just. He's filming through his phone. He's filming the. The telescope. I'm going to be filming that planet. Just Right. Okay. So you can't even see with the naked eye.
- [52:26]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right. All right.
- [52:27]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So that dot that was there is probably the moon or something. But what he's looking at, you can't see with the naked eye.
- [52:32]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
- [52:32]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Check this out. And now watch this as he goes back to look at. Oh, my God, it blew up. What the hell? Something just blew the hell up. It was orbiting and now it blew up.
- [52:45]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And if you look closely, you can see there's a triangle.
- [52:47]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
It's no longer there. Oh, I see.
- [52:50]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
In that configuration, it's in a horizontal configuration, which means it's doing downward or upward trilateration.
- [52:57]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So there's something in orbit or above orbit, even past orbit or somewhere that's being completely obliterated. Clearly an explosion.
- [53:07]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And he noticed. So this person reached out to you specifically, or was he just filming this randomly?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
No, he was just filming it randomly. And I saw it because I noticed that the V formations. And then I looked at that and I saw again the V formations. It's like, okay, there we Go.
- [53:29]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So knowing the information, you know, you're scouring the Internet, seeing these videos, and you're going, oh my God. Yeah, it's happening again, again, again.
- [53:36]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And it happens all the time.
- [53:37]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Wild.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And to give you a bit of context, I think it's actually very common. Let me show you. So this was filmed in my own back garden here. And you can see these bright flashes deep in space. And you can't. You can't really see this with the naked eye. You need your night scope to see this. And it's not just in the same place. It's actually like a cluster of explosions. So, yeah, I think that these flashes are those explosions occurring in space.
- [54:06]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
See, to me, that could look like an airplane though.
- [54:09]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. I mean, but when you're actually filming it, I mean, this thing is so deep up in space, it's not.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And you can't see it with the naked eye.
- [54:18]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
You're saying it's very hard to see it with a naked eye.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
I see, I see.
- [54:20]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Okay.
- [54:21]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Interesting.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. So it appears to be like there's this, this AI based network around us that is using an algorithm to intercept and destroy external threats, including other groups that are coming here, including maybe meteorites, including our own, and maybe our own as well. I think nuclear threats.
- [54:43]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Like, I mean, if you have. Was it the big sur event where they shot a rocket up?
- [54:52]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right, yeah.
- [54:53]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And then some. But they said a disk came around and started zapping it and then took the rocket down.
- [54:58]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. It could be a disc, I don't know. But it does appear to be taking care of, should we say airborne threats, both from. On the earth itself, like between us, but also external as well.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Cool. Is that it for the slideshow?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's it, yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Well, very interesting. I mean, this stuff is very interesting. As I mentioned at the top of the episode, I've been toying with this idea of like through especially observing abductions and some of the online testimony that people have come forward with, claiming to have worked on a lot of these crash retrieval stuff, that it sort of behaves like a system. And if you look at the work that sky watcher was doing, you know, in my opinion, was probably also simulating war games. That's what I think. And I think that's what they were doing. Part of what they were doing, aside from the psionic, you know, stuff was throwing stuff up kind of like skinwalker's doing. Just like, let's blow stuff up in the air. Let's create. Look at you had. Was it Lou Elizondo talked about Interloper, Project Interloper, same thing. Driving a nuke out into the middle of the ocean to see if they can attract these things. It seems like now this would be pretty easy to replicate. If a jet can just summon them. What's stopping us from shooting them down and looking at them closer?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, I think they're very hard to shoot down, number one. I mean, World War II proved that. They were opening up machine guns on them and they wouldn't, they wouldn't fall down. However, I do think that there has been a number of them that have just malfunctioned and landed on the ground. Anyway, I've been on this for a long, long time. I wrote the book, my first book in 2015, which identified these spheres and buildings and also the V formations as well we're now seeing in the sky, which kind of correlates with what Beatrice, Dr. Beatrice has found. Well, she's found triplets up in the atmosphere. So we should coming and going in her slides. Correct.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Those are the ones that were. That she found. So for those wondering, Villa Royale, I think her name is Beatrice. She has put a lot of work into looking at these slides that she's taken from the past. You know, telescope slides, I believe, photos that have been taken of our skies and then noticed that a few of these bright lights would disappear when the Earth's shadow got between the sun and these objects, which, if it was a star, wouldn't be the case. So that's like a smoking gun, if I understand correctly. And this is prior to satellites, this is prior to us putting anything up there. There should be nothing up there.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's correct.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And yet these things are getting blocked out by the shadow of the Earth.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right.
- [58:14]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Which means they're quite local.
- [58:15]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right.
- [58:17]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And you're saying they're in triangular formation?
- [58:20]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, my model suggests. Well, from my data shows that these type 1V formations are in big triangles.
- [58:27]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So they've been here for a while.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
A long, long time. Because there's images of them going back for decades, if not hundreds of years. There's even pitches in, in religious imagery of type 1 spheres, what looked to be spheres in V formation. So been here for a long time. And in fact, I can kind of, kind of theoretically model how far long they've been here because they say the type threes are responsible for polygeist activity. And that's 100%. I'm actually 100% sure on that. And so all you have to do is Google when was the first recorded case of poltergeist activity, and it goes back to the first century.
- [59:15]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
But I mean, correlation doesn't relate to causality. Also, like, I mean, there could be both. Right. They could be mutually exclusive. You know, for people thinking, like, all poltergeist activity is these type threes, there could be a mix of things happening here too.
- [59:32]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, but the reason why I say it's the same, because it's the same library of actions that are occurring, the same signatures. I'm not saying all. I'm not saying that all paranormal activity is a type 3 sphere.
- [59:42]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Just specifically.
- [59:43]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Specifically, poltergeist activity.
- [59:44]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Poltergeist activity, yeah. Huh. And so, okay, let's say for argument's sake that this is what's happening, which I feel like you've presented pretty good evidence that this. This points to something like that happening, essentially. If this is true, what we're dealing with here is multiple species right off the bat, because we're dealing with one species that is controlling these things, preventing another species from interacting with this planet.
- [60:16]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Correct.
- [60:16]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So at least two more species.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
@ least.
- [60:19]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
What are your theories on what those species might be? According to lore and according to, you know, a lot of the research that previous researchers have done in this space.
- [60:29]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
All I can really say from a technical point of view is the sphere network is controlled from the ground up, which means that there's infrastructure, or a lot of infrastructure goes all around the world that controls this. In fact, on the Skinwalker Ranch, when they dig down 500ft, they finding what appears to be materials that are consistent with, say, buildings.
- [60:54]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah. Like a solid object down there.
- [60:56]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. So that's where you'd put your server rooms and stuff. In fact, I think it's probably all hidden in plain sight. So you have the main systems all under the ground, and then these other guys are probably living inside mountains or hidden inside, like huge. Almost like bunkers, I suppose, huge cities or something inside mountains themselves.
- [61:16]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
I mean, we have that though.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
- [61:18]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
We've got possibly hundreds of deep underground military bases, like, so deep. And probably a tram system that runs, you know.
- [61:25]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
- [61:26]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Through these all. So are you. Do you speculate that the United States government, or at least some faction of it, is completely aware of this system?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, I'll tell you a funny story. I was in. A friend of mine was in 30 East Drive, and he was laying on the sofa and he said that there was a big flash and he opened his eyes and he saw a woman standing and looking over him and she was in uniform and. And Then he saw like a ball of light come forward and big flash again and nothing. All gone. The whole sort of event lasted maybe three or four seconds. So we did a search on the uniform and it was Space Force.
- [62:09]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Ooh, okay, so this was recent. Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I've even spoke to other TV producers.
- [62:17]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So what does that mean? Wait, hold on, what does that mean? Does that mean they were using the Sphere network?
- [62:22]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I think Space Force is well aware of it and I think that they probably work in tandem with them.
- [62:27]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Oh, so you think there's like some type of agreement?
- [62:29]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, yeah, but it must be because. Well, yeah, I think there has to be. Yeah.
- [62:34]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
That's interesting. Yeah, because now we're talking about like back into the, you know, Eisenhower days and the Griata stuff and, and us possibly having a deal with them. You think it wouldn't have been a deal with extraterrestrials, but it would have been a deal with Ultra terrestrials?
- [62:50]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
More likely than not. Yeah.
- [62:51]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Some type of cave dwelling ancestor that's been here?
- [62:54]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Possibly, yeah.
- [62:56]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Reptilian maybe.
- [62:57]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I have no idea. I have no idea. But yeah. So all I can say is that the network control net, the control system for it has to be underground and it has to be up to date and adaptive as well. In fact, I've got images of the Tic Tac because recently, you know, they're trying to say that the Tic Tac is Lockheed or something like that. And it's not.
- [63:20]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
It's not. There's pictures of the TikTok going back years and I mean years, like decades.
- [63:26]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
You can show me the, we can pull up that image that you showed me earlier.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, it's in the book.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, it's in the book.
- [63:31]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
We'll pull that up. Okay. And what that does, what appears to happen is the network itself brings down so, so to start again. So the, the, the low tech crafts that are coming in are taken out early and you see them as flashes in the sky.
- [63:47]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Those are the ones getting obliterated.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, yeah, they're like the less advanced ones.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Why are they coming here?
- [63:52]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Oh, I, well, we may get into that later, but, but many reasons maybe. Yeah, many reasons. Okay, but, but so the, the lower tech ones get taken out at a distance while the, the higher tech ones get closer to the earth. In the same way a stealth fighter will get closer to a target because it can navigate through the network.
- [64:11]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So the ones that are, we see come close to the ground. What appears to happen is the, the spheres use a swarm tactic and they'll just swarm all around it, literally sometimes locking it. Locking it in midair just like. Like creating like a bubble around it. And what it appears to be is it. It'll either. Well, it appears to disable or destroy those targets that come down close, but it appears to disable them. And they land mostly in the ocean. And then what happens is the Tic tac will come in and then lock onto it, like through a thing called quantum locking. And then it will pull it out and then extract it out. And it's very, very fast, which is actually what those pilots saw, if you remember right, Those parts. Yeah. And they said they saw a disturbance in the water and the Tic Tac over the top, and they did another swing around and it'd gone. And that's what it appears to be.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And it was getting ready to like, grab one of those fighters.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
No, no, it's to grab. Just to grab the object that was under the water.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
I see.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, yeah. So it disables them. They land in the ocean and they get pulled out. And this would be logically correct because if you have a craft that can penetrate the network, then you want that craft because you need to reverse engineer it. You'd need to grab it, take it somewhere, analyze it, and figure out how it managed to penetrate the network.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Make your system better, and then you.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Adapt the system, make it better.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
That's something A.I. i feel like that's a very A.I. thing to do as well.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And this kind of proves why the sphere network is current and up to date. Because if it was like any arms race, if it was old, people would just. They would just be able to penetrate it, no problem.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right. Ooh, that's interesting. So many interesting connections that I'm hearing through this. You know, especially, I'm kind of obsessed with this one guy who came out on 4chan, which is, you know, not the most reputable site to come to be a whistleblower on. But this person said he worked on these crash retrieval stuff. And a lot of things that he's been saying, you know, we look back on, we're like, oh, wow, this is kind of, you know, what he's talking about. And it seems like a lot of these systems are in the ocean. Perhaps these servers are mobile. You know, for me, that would make much more sense than for it to be at a singular location.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Oh, yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Because there's way better places to hide the moon, you know, under the oceans if you have that technology. And so this thing's moving around. But it did say he did say it was really interesting because when they try to approach this thing with like nuclear submarines, they would just get obliterated. And he means into nothing, there's nothing left. And he's like electric electronics around them. It would, in his words, it would on anything electronic in the vicinity and normally would be evasive until you cornered it and then it would just obliterate you. And he said that if you ever did any sharp turns, that's where it would intercept. And so I thought that was interesting because now we're talking about an anomaly in pattern detection. Right. So if you're just a boat going across or if you're just a plane flying across and all of a sudden you do a sharp turn that signals to them, wait, what is that? We got to go check that out. I'm reminded of another story. There's something, somebody we covered recently. Carlos de los Santos, he was a pilot in the 70s. And there is an audio recording, it's like 20 minutes long, where three disc shaped objects intercept his plane, one on each wing and one under him. And he feels it and it kind of like locks him. And he had no control over it and eventually they let him go.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Is that something that you feel could be part of this network? Maybe an earlier version?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
No, I think that's probably some sort of extraction attempt.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So, like what the Tic Tac would be doing?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
No, no, I think that would probably be something external coming in to try and extract something from here.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
I see.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And then. Because if they go to the bother of locking onto a craft and pulling it up, why would they let it go? I mean, what would be the point? Yeah, only unless they're forced.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Or unless they're forced. Right. Or unless. Yeah, I guess, unless they, they're like, oops, my bad, wrong guy.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I don't think so.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, it doesn't really sound.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
It's like any, any action has deliberate, deliberate thought behind it.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
You don't think they make mistakes, the spheres?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, I think so, yeah. I think in the past they have misidentified targets. There is some footage of the early 80s where they'll be doing an air show and suddenly the wing will be torn off a plane and then it'll crash. But when you actually look close to the footage, you'll see these small silver balls or sphere like objects tearing like literally like projectile, like cannonballing through the wing. But that doesn't seem to happen now.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So Ryan Graves shared. This reminds me, shared a story. I believe this year might have been end of last year. About a, I believe, spherical object that hit a plane. Do you remember this?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
It rings a bell, yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
He said that there was actually physical damage to like the hull of the aircraft.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, the thing is that the type 2s, what their behavior signature is, they will hover, say loads of the ground, but they'll stay generally in the same place because they're creating a microwave link point to point, so they're kind of stuck in that position for a while. So if the sphere was higher and the plane hit it, then there's a good reason probably why it didn't move.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
You think an EMP would take them down if they're using that type of tech?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I don't know. I really don't know. I mean, I know that the spheres were all over. Was it Heathrow or. Yeah, right. Yeah, A few months. Few. About a year ago.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
It was on the tarmac and then just shot up, apparently.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, no, even before then they, they went over. Well, they, they blamed drones at the.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Time, but, but there was this one image that was circling around of like this literal sphere.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, there were, there were these, there was a story where two airports in the UK were shut, were locked down pretty much at the same time. One, I think one was Gatwick and one was Heathrow.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And they blamed drones. But the military went in there with all their toys and they couldn't knock him out.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And these drones, I mean, the average drone has what, a flight time of maybe 30 minutes and then it has to land. Even if you've got like a stack of batteries, you have to be within that kind of radius. And then you got to replace the batteries, put it back in again. But these things were there for hours, hours and hours. So these things aren't commercial drones. And the military wouldn't be flying drones over commercial airspace. So the army went in there and didn't. Couldn't find anything. When they got close, they disappeared and then they came back again.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, but I mean, that does, you.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Know, what I think is happening is that the sphere network will lock down particular areas. Sometimes if there is a threat in the air, general airspace, they will lock down the air traffic.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Sure. To not interfere with what they have going on.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, you stay down there while you deal with this.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
But I mean, this gets incredibly complicated when we talk about China and Russia's capabilities as well. Like, are, like, what are your thoughts on that? Are they also working in tandem with these things or are they aware of it?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I don't know.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
You would have to be.
- [72:06]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So, regarding. I Mean, they were trying to say that the drones over New Zealand, over New Jersey, were Chinese drones, but it doesn't make any sense because you need to have a power source on that drone. So what's it gonna. Is it gonna fly all the way to China on a lithium battery?
- [72:23]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, they said it was emanating from the ocean at one point, like some Iranian vessel or something was like the narrative, I think.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I think if there was an Iranian vessel launching drones into US Airspace, the US Would react very quickly.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
I would think so, too.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
- [72:41]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
But I mean, we had also last year, the big flap at Langley Air Force Base, home of the most F22 fighters. You know, that's like arguably one of the biggest protected military establishments or air force establishments in the United States. And yet for what, 17 days?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
- [73:01]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
There were things hanging in the sky.
- [73:03]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. So the. The power source that China can't replicate those power sources.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Or can Russia? I mean, there are things called nuclear batteries, but they're huge and they're heavy and they don't produce the output. So the. So the other option is lithium or its fuel cell, both of which are limited and they need to be refueled or replaced. So the energy technology just isn't there. Especially from China or Russia. Russia. People talk about Russia as some sort of superpower. I mean, yeah, they're a nuclear superpower, but they're not doing very well in Ukraine, So they're not. They're not militarily as powerful as people think. Nor is China.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, there's that argument of nobody wanting to show their hand. But also, at the end of the day, you could say that about anything.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I mean, the truth is, the only country in the world that has the resources to reverse engineer or capitalize on UAP technology is the US because they've got the budget.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah. And they've been doing it for a long time.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Potentially. Yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah. They're showing up at all these crashes all around the world too.
- [74:15]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So, yeah. The New Jersey drones are, as I said, it's path. Well, a big portion of it is the sphere network because of the formations that are repeating. And then they've been monitored by US Drones. It's that simple.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Fascinating stuff, man. This is really, really interesting. What's something that you looked at in the past, other than videos, that has convinced you a little bit more about this narrative?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, my experience inside 30 East Drive and all the haunting stuff and the patterns and what I call machine patterns. Also, I figured out how to trigger poltergeist activity as well in the building.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Really?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
- [75:05]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Well, that's interesting.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. In fact, there was a. There's a. There's a competition out there. Like, if you can prove, like, paranormal Activity or something, we'll give you like a hundred thousand pounds.
- [75:17]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah. A million dollars. James. Randy. Yeah, the Amazing Randy.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And I contacted them and I sent my video and they said, oh, no, you've got to have magic powers to do it. I was like, what? You know, so I said, look, I don't haven't got magic powers, but I do know technically how to do it. And they said, oh, no, you got to do it via magic psychic powers. So they kind of changed the goalposts on that one.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
They do that, though.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. So. Yeah. But in a nutshell, how it works is if you put a pram at the top of the stairs in 30 East Drive and you put a doll in it and it will be thrown down the stairs literally once or twice a week, maybe three times a week.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Why?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Because the AI is trying to hate babies? No, no, it's just trying to move you away.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So it's.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
I see.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I think. Whoa. So how it models out is like this is. The type 3 spheres are producing high energy emissions, gamma radiation and microwave radiation, or microwave signaling, to be specific. And then you have a thing called spontaneous human combustion.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
That's what I want to get into next. Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So if you look at pictures of people who have had this happen to them, their hands are just sit here relaxed. If you were on fire, you would be like this.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
You'd be running around the house.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. You'd be trying to fight the fire. But what's happening is it's happening so fast that the brain isn't responding. So you're just sitting there vaporized. Yeah. And so what can replicate that? Well, it's high energy gamma radiation, high energy microwaves. So what it appears to be. I mean, there's only been 200 cases of spontaneous human combustion. I think it's like. I think it's approximately 200. And there hasn't been any recent cases of it, but there was like a period of time when it was. And the way I look at it is that it almost looked like there was some sort of software upgrade that went out and then retracted, you know?
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Because.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah. Like a patch.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. And so you got.
- [77:29]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
We got the new expansion, the new exploding body expansion. Like. Yeah, maybe we dial that one back a little bit.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So it's like the. You have the type 3s in the building that when they need to relay instead of Producing very high energy emissions. They produce poltergeist activity to move you away and then they broadcast. But if you happen to stay in it or close to it, you either get a dose of radiation or you get a dose of spontaneous human combustion. That's what it appears. That's what it bottles out.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, they're like, ah, malfunction. Someone's here. They're not moving. Vaporized.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, it looked like a dodgy software patch that maybe made it too aggressive or something.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, I have no explanation for that. I mean, there's no other. That's the thing. That's one of the things that stuck out. I remember reading those books as a kid. You're flipping through these books and you just see this giant burn mark on a sofa. Nothing else is burnt around it, just this one shadow of a human or their legs are still there or some really strange.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So it's basically directional. It's not like taking your whole body. It's just a. It's a directional beam.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And if you look at the wall behind when. When he's it, you can actually see like a burn mark. Looks like a. Looks like a. Like a cross or something where it looks like like almost like a laser beam's gone through them and they've caught on fire quickly and burnt out and burnt the wall as well.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
What other paranormal.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Just to back up a bit.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
This is why in poltergeist activity they cause fires. It's the same thing. It's microwave radiation, gamma radiation, pyrokinesis. Yeah, it's causing fires.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Oh, that would make you run to another room, that's for sure. And so would throwing your baby down the stairs.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yes. Yeah, it's not a pleasant thought. But if you do that, it will trigger multiple times. In fact, there was a few about two years, a year and a half ago or something. There was. I was in 30 years drive and three major poltergeist effects occurred the same. The same event happened three times. I got it to replicate three times. That night there was meteorites exploded over the uk. So it's kind of thinking, okay, in my mind, when you're having polygeist effects, it means the network is at work. It's producing signaling and emissions and so forth. And then you got these meteorites exploding over the UK the same night within hours. So you're thinking, okay, that to me looks like they were intercepting that.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Are there more of these correlations between perhaps famous crashes and hauntings? Are there any other examples where you're like, oh, this is the day that this happened. But also something else happened.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Not at the moment.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
That's an interesting place to look.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, I mean, I can start correlating.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
That maybe, but what other paranormal events can be linked to this sphere theory?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So when I was doing my testing, I noticed. I set up a test where I stuck a GoPro camera on a picture or like a glass picture, like a glass surface. And this was using a. A proper GoPro adhesive. So it was really strong. Like you couldn't get the damn thing off if you tried. And I put it on there and I went outside and. And I had a flash in my, in my. Literally like a vision in my head of looking at it, like, clear as a bell. Like I'm looking at you clear as a bell. And once I saw it and literally like that, it flew down the stairs and hit the ground, like popped off the wall. So that's like totally against physics. And I don't know how it was done, because you look at it, it looked like it was. The adhesive was neutralized or something, I don't know. But it literally just popped off like a cork. And so it's like they can look at something and sort of send a signal to your brain and you can see it as a vision, something like that. So it's like they can send you signals and you can see as a vision, which kind of like correlates with like, religious. Religious texts because people are having visions. You know, they have visions of something and they write about it. So maybe.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So there might be a possibility they can interface with your mind somehow and project thoughts and imagery to allow you. Whatever it takes to get you out of that room or to get you away from the emissions that they're throwing your way.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. Or to maybe let you know that they're annoyed with you about something. You know, it seems to be. Yeah. They appear to have that ability.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right. So if you're in the way of their path and if you just hold fast, you're saying you'll probably end up sick or you'll probably end up, you know, there'll be activity all around you and you'll probably end up ill. Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
In fact, the sad truth is, is that mental illness is rampant in the paranormal community. It's rampant. People don't want to admit it, but that's the truth. The, the, the, the, the biggest, the where, where it's all gone wrong a little bit is the UFO community hasn't spoken or don't. Don't engage with the paranormal community.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah. Not so much.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. Because. And they're set in their minds that this is all dead people and spirits.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And then you have the UFO community who are very. Aliens and aliens and stuff.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So they don't really cross. Cross bridges very much, but that's what I kind of did. I crossed the bridges and then. Trying to figure out the connections.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Like a unifying theory.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, that's the sad truth. There's a lot of mental illness in the paranormal community.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Were you always interested in this sort of stuff?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
No, no.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
What initiated your interest in here? Did you have an event?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, yeah. It's quite a funny one, looking back, I mean. Well, I grew up in a UFO hotspot and it just became normal, really.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Roswell?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
No, no, in Cambridge. And like a little village in Cambridge. And I used to walk home at night and see these, like, golf, like. Like basketball size. Not basketball, baseball. Baseball size. Like glowing pearls of light, I used to call them. Just going over the. The street lights and I didn't know what they were. I just used to see them and I was like, oh. You know. And it used to be on a regular schedule as well. It used to be like every Friday night around about 11 o'. Clock. And they probably still do, to be honest. I just haven't been there at the time. But I used to see them, I would say once every three weeks, something like that. And then, you know, I had some paranormal experiences, I suppose. Like I was around my friend's house and he had like a middle flat, like it was like a big house. And the middle section was his flat and the one above was empty and the one below was a workshop. And we'd be sitting there playing PlayStation, you know, and late at night and you'd hear, you know, like, people stumping across the ceiling above you. Yeah. And you're like, oh, who's up there? You know, he's probably got, you know, someone's broken in or something. And you go up there, there's no one there. And happened multiple times. And then, I mean, I also had a. A funny one where I went down to the local village, like a pub. There's like a little social club. And I was actually waiting for it to open. It was like 7 o' clock in the evening. It was like late summer. And I was just sitting on the swing, minding my own business, really. And I just looked over to the left and saw this guy literally about 30, 40ft away from me, something like that, in a monk outfit and he had his hood up and it's all buttoned up. And I thought it was just like a local nut job who was trying to take the piss. Yeah, he was having a joke. So I just started shouting at him, what are you doing? You know, like, you know. Yeah, what are you doing, idiot? And just stood there like a statue. And so I had a laser pointer in my pocket at the time. They were all the rage, you know, And I had like a little red laser pointer and I put a laser on the ground and I remember it going on the grass and then going up his leg onto his chest and into his face. But he had like a hood up and just like a black mass where his face was just like a big black mass. And I put it right in his face like this. Because this wasn't like a, like a 10 second experience. This went on for about two minutes. And I had it like that, like that in his face, trying to get a reaction out of him. Just stood there like a statue. In fact, when the laser hit the face, it went half as brightness, which was weird. I was like, oh, that's weird, because it was bright on the ground, really bright, and then real dim. So I jumped up and I decided, because this is like my hometown, my home village where I grew up. And it's almost like he's been intruding in my garden kind of thing. So I just like, oh, you know, you. I'm gonna have a look at you. So I jumped up and I started walking towards him and I got within, I don't know, 10ft maybe, just disappeared.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
No way.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. And that kind of got me a little bit because it was a little bit.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
I'd be shitting my pants.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I was like, oh, you know, I was like a little bit uneasy.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
But I thought, okay, because that's not uncommon for. I mean, it's funny because I was just reading about a case yesterday, but I mean, we had John Ramirez here, who is, you know, ex CIA, signals intelligence guy who said that multiple times he'd have these hooded beings wearing these robes in his room. Like these monk robes. Absolutely. The monk robes shows up a lot.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Really?
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Oh, yes. Oh, my God, it is. Yesterday I was reading a case on Peter Curry, Australian guy who's had, you know, a run in with some, like, hybrids trying to seduce. It was a whole story. He had DNA evidence, by the way, of this. Like, he had a strain of their hair. But prior to that. Yeah. Beside his bedside he had again, these hooded robed figures. I can probably cite five or six off the top of my Head that all have monk robes.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I never knew that.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And like a varying number of species underneath them, from mantis to reptilian to gray to like gorilla type. Very strange. But, but so many people report. There's a few different uniforms that people report during abductions. There's like your typical onesie with like a belt and an insignia uniform type deal. There's military garm, there is lab coat stuff, but then there's the ropes. And the robes are very, very prevalent in ufology. So yeah, you should look into it. Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I never knew that.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
You might have been shining the light in the WR direction. Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Because all I just went to after I saw that and it disappeared. I just went to the local pub and it was open, opened and I just said to the, to the locals, the old pensioners who just work the land and stuff, I said, I just thought I saw a guy over there, dressed, robe or something, you know, and he went, oh yeah, that's the mad monkey haunts here. I was like, what?
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And I'd never heard and I haven't seen it since or before before that or since. So like a one off, very distinct event. But that's what kind of got me interested and it just kept bugging me and, and the thing is is that over the years, so I started watching like paranormal TV shows, the mainstream stuff like in the UK we had what was it called? Most Haunted and us got ghost adventures. But none of it gelled with me. None of it made any sense. I mean coming from like a technical background and it and stuff, I thought, look at. What are you talking about?
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, ghosts wasting their time knocking over flowers like, what are you doing?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And I had to love. There was one case, I forget what TV show it was. It was one of those where this woman, this family were reporting a haunting in their house. And so the story at the beginning was some guy died there, as it always is, Right?
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
But then after they did some research, they found out that no one died there. So this paranormal team, this famous paranormal team were looking all confused and so what they did is they got in their car and went down the road to find another house where someone happened to die and said, oh, we think it's this guy who just drops by and you know, bollocks.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, that's funny because then it would look like a hoax if there's no dead body. Yeah, that's interesting.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And the thing is that the problem with the mainstream paranormal is that there's no real investigation. It's a ghost train ride where you go into and go boo. And then you run out the other end and nothing really happens. They make up, they come up with some history, and then it goes to the next location. But the problem is that because you're not dealing with dead people, you're dealing with these spheres. Right. Type three spheres. And they're producing these emissions. They have a negative effect on your health. And a lot of these ghost hunters and stuff, they're now either cognitively or physically impacted by the emissions. But obviously they blame demons.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Do you think Havana syndrome.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Could have something to do with this?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yes.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So because you had the Cuban Missile crisis, which it might be a reason for the spheres to be present.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So I'll tell you a story. So what it appears to be is that the type 3 spheres, they have obviously a very exotic propulsion system and they appear how it models out, at least to have like a radiation effect, have some sort of radiation byproduct.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Sure.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
The problem is that we can't detect it. Right. And I say this because people have taken stones off the Drive, off 30 East Drive, and they take them home and their house becomes crazy active and they send those stones back in the post saying. With a letter saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Wow.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. And you wouldn't believe. I didn't believe.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
What's the reason there?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So what I think is happening is that the type 3 is obviously producing like a radiation byproduct which is contaminating everything from stones to the objects in the building.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
But an undetectable radiation byproduct?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I think so. And then when it's being moved to another location, the Type threes in the area can detect it. And then what they're doing is they're performing scarecrow actions around the objects to get rid of. To get. Force people to get rid of it, keep you safe. And in fact, I think that like old occults, occult practices used to have noticed this behavior. And what they used to do is take objects from these buildings and put them in other people's houses. Like they would put them under the.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
House, under the bed.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Under the beds. Or put them under the bed. And then. And back then it was a curse.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
You know, and I think that's. That's where they kind of got it from.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Oh, like cursed items would have been. Yeah, would. Would just have been some type of radioactive material.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. And there was a. There's another case I heard of, which is actually in my book, the first one, where this family, they bought a bed, like A, like a, like a bunk bed, wooden one, and it was like a secondhand one. And they put it in the kids room and the kids all started screaming.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And saying someone died in that bed.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Some, the kids will start screaming, saying they're hearing voices and things are moving around in the room and stuff and they're panicking. So the parents stayed in the room and they saw the same thing. So they got rid of the bed. They burnt it. Got rid of it all stopped.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So if the bed is contaminated with this radiation and then the spheres go in there and tell people to go away, then that's, that's. And then you get rid of the bed and it all stops.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So that appears to logically connect.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
That's interesting. Yeah, it is interesting. I mean, you've opened up a whole new world of exploration, which I think is really commendable and really fun as a researcher to look into because we're often turning stones that have been turned over a thousand times and reading old cases. But it's part of the fun for me is looking at these old cases through a new lens. Regarding, you know, if we have new information, namely some whistleblower comes out taking that information and holding it up against all of these other previous cases and how it correlates. This just adds to that a little bit more, I think. And it's, it creates, if nothing else, it creates just a valid theory that we can now apply until perhaps it gets broken because the next theory comes along. But this is really, it's really compelling.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, yeah, I mean, the thing is that the sphere network itself is creating the same formations all around the world. It's the same mathematical process. And from the formations itself, it's possible to reverse engineer mathematically what they're doing. And they're doing a thing called trilateration, which is a mathematical process of targeting objects in space.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, it's how we do it, it's how they would do it. But it also seems like this evolves, obviously, like you'd mentioned, like some type of patch update the material perhaps evolves, everything optimizes. Just like you would if you were in war or, you know, in a warlike scenario, you would continuously update and upgrade your, you know, your fleet.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, I think like any network of deployment, you have the new stuff and the old stuff. Yeah, you know, it's a blend. So you'll see some spheres that look a little bit different than others. Like there's one out there. Like a cube in a sphere. Yes, that one. But I mean, that one Appears to act like the type 2 because it's always like at that kind of altitude and it sort of hangs around like that, I think. Again, so you've got the old and the new, and I think the older stuff is slightly bigger and maybe chunkier, I suppose, and the newer stuff is more streamlined, but they all seem to have the same. They all operate the same roles. So you have the type threes that are in the buildings, you have the type twos that are above the tree lines, and then you have the type 1V formations.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Do you think we're in hypothetical territory at this point? Visitors coming from the outside are also deploying and sending drones here.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Highly likely.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And then our drones are just interacting with their drones because a lot of these bodies, again, they don't have genitalia, they don't have. They seem like biological drones.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Highly likely.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I mean, that's what we would do. I mean, if you look at robotics now with like Tesla bot, for example, give that another 10 years. Sure, that would be. I mean, I know that Elon's sending them to Mars.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So great. We would do the same thing, you know.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
You know, that's interesting. Yeah. I'm just trying to think back on like all these different scenarios and all these different morphologies or, you know, sort of phenotypes of like all these aliens and how that would work, like, because if you look at the 1970s, like generationally and even through the decades, the species have changed, right? So the phenomenon, modern phenomenon, started with the crash in Roswell due to, you know, a lot of the nuclear testing that was being done there. And then from there we started seeing these type 1, type 2 EBES, which are these either big black eyes, you know, short guys, or like always the big bulbous heads and these little creatures. But then as you move into the 60s and 70s, we're starting to get humanoid looking species. We're getting the tall blondes, large foreheads, benevolent fishbowls on their heads for some reason wearing blue tights, flying saucers, that whole deal. And then after that you go into the 80s and 90s. Now it's purely gray, all grays, no genitals. I keep talking about. I'm not obsessed with their genitals, which I think is an interesting, you know, physiological trait. But we see this, right? And now into the 2000s, it's more of this hybrid talk. So I'm just trying to figure out how the spheres fit into all of that.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, all I can say from a technical point of view is that we found spheres in these buildings, the type 2s and the type 1v formations, and they keep replicating. In fact, I would say it's the only data out there that UAP data out there that replicates.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
That's constant.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Constant. Yeah. And I think when Beatrice can do more data analysis on what's up in the atmosphere, she'll probably find the same thing. I mean, that's my opinion.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
That's your opinion.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
She would. She. I can't speak for her, but that's my opinion. I'm 99.9% sure you're going to find triangles.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
You're very high conviction that this is.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
What we're dealing with regarding all the other stuff, like the different groups and stuff. I have no idea.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, because there is circumstantial evidence and sort of stories essentially of all these other things that does paint a picture as well. So what percentage of the phenomenon do you think is due to the system that you're talking about?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I would say the Sphere network is responsible for about 90% or 80% of paranormal effects.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Of paranormal effects.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Because poltergeists are the most common.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Sure.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
They're definitely, Obviously the type 2s that are there and the V formations are seen everywhere.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, I mean, from a, from a data point of view, it is pretty constant, as I said, regarding the other groups and what people are seeing. I really don't know.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, you're not ruling it out, you're.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Just saying it doesn't. I don't know.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
It could be multi. Tiered.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
It could be. Yeah, yeah. That's what I think too it could be very multicultural, you know, it's highly likely. I don't know. But I mean, one thing I can kind of say is the image in the book I got. So I kind of figured, okay, well, if this is like an ultra terrestrial group doing this, where do they live? You know, where are they? So I found a woodland in the UK where they've had lots of reports of paranormal activity. So I kind of thought, well, you know, maybe that's the type threes playing games down there and seeing what's going on. So the woodland is very distinct because there's a tunnel that it funnels through. So in order to get into the woodlands, you've got to go for a tunnel. So I went to that tunnel and it's a good, It's a good 15 minute hike into the woods and we've set up our cameras there and we, we. I, I kind of created what they call a dog whistle as well. Sure. Which I've made public and people are getting good results with it. So I set that up as well.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
What is the dog whistle consist of?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So there's two of them. One is like a strobe and the other one is binary code.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Okay.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, but we can talk about that in a minute. So what we did was we were filming in this tunnel and some of the sensors went off, but we didn't see anything, didn't feel anything, nothing, you know. So went home, looked at the footage. And the footage is it was at 60 frames a second. 4K. No, sorry, 2K. 2K. 60 frames a second. And we saw something like a figure. And when we set it up, you see what looks to be like a large gray kind of guy with big teardrop eyes. And he walks up to, walks up to the strobe, looks down, looks at us and carries on walking. And when you do the calculations, this was all captured in about 10 frames or at 60 frames a second. So you think, okay, well how does this work? How can something be that fast? So the only thing I can kind of compute is these guys are using a form of localized time dilation, which means that they can like press something on their watch or something like that. And it creates like a bubble of time around them, like a distortion. And we're all in freeze frame.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yep.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
We're like in freeze frame like, like this. And they're just walking around and it's all happening between the frame rate of our eyes.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And I think this is why. So I went to think about it. That's probably the Perfect defense. If you're going to walk around, you know, the shaved monkeys, that's what you would use because nothing can touch you. You can walk between bullets being fired at you.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
The old adage of where Neo becomes the one. You won't need to dodge the bullets anymore.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
No, that's right. And that's what it appears to be. And it's a crazy thing way to perceive it because to do that, the technology to do that and the energy to do that is off the scale. But that's what appears to be. And it kind of explains a couple of things because there are people who are experienced hunters who go out into the woods and they disappear and it's like, well, okay, well if you happen to be in their territory with a gun and they cross you, you know, they cross your path, you won't even see them coming.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
No, it'll be over in a second. You wouldn't even spontaneous combustion.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, you know, you, they can come up, look at you in the face and walk off and you wouldn't even see it.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Sure.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And I think this is why people go missing in these woodland areas.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So like the missing 411, there's also.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
An interesting thing as well. You might notice on the Internet now a lot of videos of people who go camping in woodlands to be woken up late at night. And people walking around the tent and it's like in the middle of nowhere, you know, and it freaks them out so much they get off and run. I think if you camping in their territory, then they're going to tell you to go. Because one thing I noticed in the image is that the size of the eyes, the eyes are very, very large and very large pupil as well, which replicates the animals that are nocturnal. Right. So these guys are probably not seeing the dark and they see in the dark as clear as we see in the day. So it's highly likely that they operate at night and we have the day.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
There's a lot of cases of all of that, especially with the gray types, where the time dilation thing is very, very real. I mean there's so many cases. There's a guy in Chile, forget what his name was, but he was with a group of six people, military guy, disappeared for 15 minutes, came back with a four day old beer.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Wow.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And the watch said four days later too. On his watch there was a lady who I think during her abduction she witnessed the grass growing between her toes. There was, if you look at Ariel phenomenon, the children looking at the beings that were up on the craft floating on the craft and jumping, they were moving in slow motion. They were described. But there's other people witnessing beings aboard crafts that are moving, like glitching, like moving super fast. And so again, this time dilation thing, I mean, even if you look at Bob Lazar, Bob did tests with the amplifier, the gravity amplifier. And when they were able to focus this gravity amplifier on a single point, they would put a candle in there. And the candle didn't flicker yet it emitted light.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
It just froze, which is very strange.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So, you know, that technology would. Yeah, obviously not only be present in the propulsion system, but all of their other, you know, military tech that they're using to, you know, remain stealthy or whatever.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
One thing. What happens when we're doing our dog whistle test? So the strobe, what it does, it is a coated strobe and it is designed to trigger the response of Sears. So what it really means is that you can go to, say, up a hill. And that's what we did. We went 3,000ft up a hill in Manchester, and there's no phone signal. There's no one there. It's like you could be on the moon, it's that remote. And you switch the strobe on and within 15, 20 minutes, you're picking up strange voices on your camera. You're getting weird electronic effects. Poltergeist activity starts happening like stones thrown against walls. People are seeing shadows go by. But one thing stands out is that it all goes very quiet. Yeah, there's no.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
No crickets. Nothing.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Nothing.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Which is time dilation. Right, because you're literally being slowed down and all the animals just go quiet.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
I did a podcast with a guy named Darren Bousman, who's here. He was the Director of SAW 2, 3 and 4. Big horror fan. Right. Obviously, he's done a whole bunch of horror films, but he did this one movie called 1111, and he shot it in near Barcelona in Spain. And he rented this old house. And when he wanted the house, the caretaker was like, no, not this one. You gotta find another house. He's like, no, this is the house I want. It's an old Victorian house by the sea. Beautiful. And so the caretaker takes in there. He doesn't go inside. He's like, you can go ahead and you go outside. And he's like, no, this is perfect. And it was actually. And there's books up here. I have umo. It was a place, a gathering place for people to get together to discuss the papers of umo. Umo was this, you know, these Thousands of papers spread across Europe. Apparently, you know, these aliens were communicating physics, sociology, psychology, all of their knowledge to humans. And they would get together and read this stuff. Super bizarre stuff. But he got a super eerie feeling while he was there. He's like, oh, there's. You know, the girl died in the basement. They buried her body. Like the whole, you know, the paranormal lore that exists. But the day they got there, first of all, half the crew got sick. Like, ill, ill, ill. His wife took one of the symbols off and she. That. That day, that night was in. In the hospital, throwing up fever, like so many people. But not only that, at one point, there's a guy to come in and he's like, hey, what's going on? One of his friends. And right where he was standing, the chandelier drops right where he was. Like, there was. In the actual movie. In the actual movie, the shutters in the back of the house raise up. Those shutters were tied. You had to do it from the outside. And they were tied down and nailed. Like they didn't touch those shutters and in the shot. So people thought they were practical. Was a practical joke happening. And then finally there was an incident where they were editing in the editing room and they had to scrap a whole take because there was like just some random screaming. And they're like, we were filming this. Nobody would have been screaming. We would have yelled cut. But there was some audio bleeding. So a lot of this paranormal, which I'm thinking now is really interesting. So that might. And that house was known to be haunted. So that might have just. And it was by the sea, right in front of the ocean.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So you think about that. There's.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, but that sounds like the Type Threes are operating from there. Because what the sickness would be, radiation sickness. EVPs are actually produced by the type 3. So I'll tell you how EVP.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
The voice stuff.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, yeah. I'll tell you how I figured this out is. So I noticed that from the recordings I had at 30 drive and my own house as well, because it followed me home as well.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Well.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I noticed that it was snippets of sound that were blended together. Right. So if you can imagine, like a machine sampling, say, two words off a TV show, and then it will sample some other words. Some other words, and it blends them all together. And then when you put that through an audio package to really look at the waveform, you notice the errors. It's like an AI that is cutting up bits of audio and then reconstructing it. To then give you a message. And the interesting thing, it does it very fast. It does it really fast, but it's rough. And also what's interesting is when these guys go to Quantity buildings and they say, oh, you know, this has been haunted for 500 years like a castle. But they're getting EVPs that are in English. Right. Like current English language, not like old fashioned language.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
It's because they're sampling the current.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, the AI is updated.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Interesting.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
You see, so that's, that's. And what it appears to be is, is so the spheres are producing like a directed radio wave that is going onto the circuit of the recorder or the camera, which has been picked up as electronic crosstalk.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right. So you're not actually hearing it.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So we can't hear it. But it's been picked up on the circuit and that's why the cameras pick it up.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
That's cool. I'm going to tell him that he's going to get a kick out of this episode too. He's. It's been a big. A big thorn in his side for a while. And funny synchronicity. He called me the other day and he was in a. He was in a. I think he went to like Palm Springs or something, and his wife speaks Spanish or, or Catalan and they were having a conversation with this couple beside them that was also. The gentleman was also from Spain. He's like, oh, you're from Barcelona? And the guy goes, yeah, just watch this podcast about Umo. And he watched his podcast. It was like a whole synchronous event that happened, but very interesting stuff. Patrick, I'm gonna go turn on the camera back here. We're gonna do some audience questions. All right. So for those that are new here, joining the membership not only gives you access to so many things. We got movie night, we got extra episodes, we got all this stuff. But it also allows you to have a chance to ask our guest some deep, meaningful questions. So pull that up now. First one here. Now a few of these. I didn't write the names for because they just. The questions were a little too long. But, but this one was from Picture a secret tunnel. That's his name. And I'll.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
There you go.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And he writes, do you think the spheres could be hacked and used against us?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, any, any machine or any system can be hacked, but it's probably highly unlikely that we could be able to do it. Highly likely that it's highly encrypted. So probably it is technically possible, but unlikely.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Unless it's some other hyper advanced civilization doing the hacking?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Potentially, yeah.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Ooh, ominous, ominous answer again, I'm sorry if I don't name you because we had like, I think it's 142 characters max on these things and I don't have room to put people's names. This one I think is from Helder Halsan, our moderator on our Discord channel. And he says, how do you distinguish if an electronic malfunction is true paranormal influence or just an error or technical fault? So, meaning when you're getting some type of signal or mixed signal, like is there any way for you to distinguish between what could be considered a prosaic, normal technical error or it's them. Is there any signature that you're looking for specifically?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
No. I mean, all you really see from an observable position is the paranormal, poltergeist effects. If it's an error or not. I don't know.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
There's no way of distinguishing.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, there probably is. I mean, if you had like radiation and microwave detectors in the building and there wasn't any signals flying around and it was doing it anyway, I mean, maybe that could be an error, a technical error. Yeah, maybe. But in order to do that you'd need, let's say you need a good sensor array around the building and then you'd need a database to record all that data, right? Then you'd need AI to analyze that data and then to come up with.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Patterns or what's your optimal setup? Then like, let's go down here. Here, let's say, okay, you got a billion dollars and I want you not only to unequivocally prove that this is a real phenomenon, I want to take one of these things down, I want to get them on every single intelligence gathering platform that I have. Where do you go and what do you do?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So first you have to set up a monitoring system. So you would put up sensors in every single very active building in the country.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Okay.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
They would then connect to like a postgres database which would then have collect data for maybe six months, something like that. Then you'd have a AI to run against it to look for patterns and processes from those patterns. Then you can try and reverse engineer what they're doing if it's encrypted. If it's not, it might just be numbers, telemetry data, you know, it's hard to say. And then what you do is you would then do signal warfare. So you would inject your own signal into to then provoke an action by.
- [117:55]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Using what their Patterns were. You'd be able to replicate it.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
That's right. In fact, skinwalker is. I know from skinwalker that they are, when they do their tests, I think it's when, because we picked up 1.6 gigahertz.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Really?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. And 1.72 gigahertz inside 30 drive burst relaying. Exactly as effects were actually occurring in the building as well, which matches what's happening at Skinwalker. So it's the same type 3 sphere as a Skinwalker as it is in 30 strive. And what they are recorded at Skinwalker is when they artificially produce the 1.6 GHz. I think this is true. They're getting a signal back. Like they're sending one and they're getting one back. So in my mind what you do is you would say, okay, that's like a trigger. So that's like they're sending an action, they're getting a response. So what you do is you record the response and you basically have your AI in skinwalker trying to talk to their AI, you know, so you send a signal, get a response. Oh, try another signal, get a response. And you let the two AI start talking to each other. And that's how you would kind of break into it or kind of start cooperating with it or whatever you want to communicate with it. Doing big fireworks in the sky. This is good for the cameras, but doesn't really do any good.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Sure, okay.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
But you could theoretically do the same to any building as well. As long as you have an array of sensors and record the data, you can start finding the code and the protocols and start injecting your own signals into it.
- [119:35]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Cool, I would love to see that happen. Maybe in our lifetime. This is from Tess, I believe. Yeah. Okay, I'm getting this, right? Tess writes, what's the most probable morphology of the ultra terrestrial subsurface species controlling the network of spheres?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, in order for the sphere network to operate, it needs underground servers and networks which are kept up to date. It's probably all hidden in cliffs, in plain sight, inside mountains. In fact, there's been footage recently of spheres coming out of mountainsides as well. And so it appears to be all in plain sight.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So what does that mean? What's their morphology then? What does that point to? What species are we dealing with? According to what we know. Know, what does it point to?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Well, they're probably just much smarter versions of us.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So hominid?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
- [120:48]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Human looking?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Human looking, yeah, but. But just probably much smarter level.
- [120:53]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
The thing is, it's like Some breakaway civilization that's been here for a longer time, you think?
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I think they've been here since the beginning.
- [121:00]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I think, I think what it is, so how it models out is the spheres are like level one and two defense. Right. So you might have the ones in space, you might have, and you have the ones in the atmosphere as well, but then you have us around the surface. Right. Which makes us the third line of defense. Right.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So not a very good one.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, I mean it's not very, it's not the brightest of ideas or the, or the most nicest of ideas, but the. You gotta. Okay, let's look at humans. We are hybrids of primates. Right. So what's the point of making a hybrid of a primate? Well, a primate is very strong, very fast and very survivable. Very aggressive as well. So what we are is an, is an aggressive or an aggressive intelligent primate. Right. So if you want a third line of defense, you'd want something like an intelligent monkey to protect the surface. And in fact, I think, because if you look at the skill set of humanity as a whole, regardless of location or IQ level, we're all good at killing things. It's just the west is better at killing than other countries, but we're very good at killing things. And that's what it appears that we are the third line of defense. So if something crashes here, we are the ones who deal with it. We are the bigger, stronger versions of them. It's highly likely that they're much smaller than us and weaker, but smarter. But we're bigger and dumber.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
You know what I mean?
- [122:43]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Okay. Like a meat shield.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, like a meat shield.
- [122:46]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
And I don't like that.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I know, I know, I'll be honest.
- [122:53]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
I like that one bit.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
But I think actually that the dinosaurs were the original.
- [122:57]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
The original meat shield.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
The original. Because if a craft crashed on dinosaur Earth back in those days, you wouldn't last very long. You know what I mean? But it's highly likely that due to the animalistic nature of the dinosaurs and predatory nature, that they were probably chasing down the ultra terrestrials as well. Because they're just aggression, pure aggression. Right. So it's in my mind at least, we're the replacements.
- [123:27]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah. I do think the idea has legs, especially considering that you're safer underground.
- [123:33]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Indeed. Yeah. You can control the access point.
- [123:35]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah. And if you want to, you know, have a longer lasting species, you would live underground.
- [123:41]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
- [123:42]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
You know you can. No natural disaster is going to get you. No nuclear fallout is going to get you no asteroid is going to kill you. A smarter species would have a less fun life. A more optimal species would have a less fun life. But that also tells me that they aren't. That they might be AI themselves.
- [124:03]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
It's highly likely that they've also fused with AI.
- [124:06]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, because only AI would be like, it's optimal to be underground. And we're like that human passionate spark that we have. We're like, yeah, but we can also. To enjoy the sunshine.
- [124:18]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, but the problem with that is.
- [124:22]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Unless they're aliens from the uk, in which case they don't mind so much.
- [124:26]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I mean, the problem is that because we live on the surface and we produce all these high energy emissions that are going into space, we are announcing where we are. Exactly. To trillions and trillions of solar systems with trillions and trillions of planets, all it takes is one of them to say, oh, you have something we want. So, I don't know. The odds are against us.
- [124:45]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
The dark forest theory.
- [124:47]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah. And I think that's why the Sphere Network is doing what it's doing. But also, I mean, the Sphere Network explains a few other things. Like it explains the Fermi Paradox. You say, where are all the aliens? Well, the network keeps the bulk of them out, then explains poltergeist activity and explains spontaneous human combustion all in one. So it does. Does tick a lot of boxes. But yeah, I mean, from the image I got from my tests, these guys are nocturnal and because of the size of their eyes. And they would be suited underground because it's darker.
- [125:24]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah.
- [125:27]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Interesting. We got one last one here. And this one is from Gina, I believe. It's a good question.
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- [126:44]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Gina says if Earth is protected by an intelligent ADT, which is like a security software, and humans are the criminal element, who installed it and when did the police arrive? So again, it kind of answers what we just went over.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, but yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that humans are a criminal element, but we serve a role, we have a role in the system. In the same way that we don't talk to primates, I think these guys don't talk to us. And I think that's the block in politics as well. Like Trump said recently that he wish he could tell us, but it's not his decision. Which means it's their decision. Because the thing is, if the average IQ of these guys is say 200, 250, what have they got in common with us Most? The average IQ on Earth is between 50 and 100. So we would not serve any purpose to them in their lives. In the same way, a primate has no real purpose in the human domain domain other than being in the zoo.
- [127:48]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
So by that kind of logic they probably say, look, you perform a role, you're there to do a role for us and we'll just carry on doing what we do. So the future for humanity as I explained it in my book, is that we have to fuse with AI. It's non negotiable. We have to do it. So what it does is that the human brain currently would become, is currently the manager and processor. While what will need to happen is the brain will become the manager, but the AI will become the processor. So it means that we can all jump up to like 250, 300 intelligence level, IQ level. When you jump up to those levels, then suddenly you're much more compatible with these other groups.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And then it's like, okay, now you're smart enough, now the gates will be opened because now I can talk to you as an equal.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, I get that. I get that from a logical, intelligent, you know, sort of point of view, but I don't get it from a human perspective. You know, that's the, that's the part that I fail to like gel with is this idea that in order to survive, we have to give up what makes us human.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Oh, I don't know if we have to give it up, it just makes us smarter. I don't know, maybe, maybe the smarter you get, the more cynical you become or the more colder you become, I think.
- [129:24]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
So maybe, you know, if you look at computers, they don't really care, they feign emotion, whereas emotion drives a lot of our decision Making. And that is part of our downfall. I do understand that. But also it is what makes us unique on this planet.
- [129:40]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I mean, this, this is what Neuralink is all about, really. This is, this is the main mission of Neuralink because you're, you're interfacing the brain to a high speed interface to AI intelligence. That's the overall vision of it.
- [129:55]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, yeah. But I also, you know, I wonder, like there's gotta be, you know what I mean, like if that's, if that's all life is just to prolong and extend our physical existence. It seems a little silly considering the vastness of the universe and space and time itself, that we're just trying to prolong this little blip that we're here for. It seems like whatever it is we're here for serves a greater role beyond the physical. You know, it could be, I don't know.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Yeah, I mean, logically it does. It just maps out that way.
- [130:36]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
And you know, I, I do my best to keep away from emotional logic because it's blurry, but the, the black and white cold logic in my head just models it out like that. And that's, that's my thing.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Yeah, yeah. But that also means you assume that their number one priority is survival. That's your assumption. Well, I mean, that might not be true.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I mean, they're saying that Mars was destroyed by a nuclear event.
- [131:11]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Right.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Recently they said, I think on the news the other day that there's evidence to suggest that Mars was attacked by nuclear weapons. So maybe if, you know, maybe they are just worried about survival. You know, maybe it is that way. I think even President Trump said the space is a domain of war. So it could be that the night sky is, although as stunning as it is, is just like the ocean, dangerous. It's highly dangerous. Lots of animals, lots of predators, lots.
- [131:52]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Of all sorts teeming with life. Yep. Yeah, I mean, you know, the theory does answer questions, but it definitely sparks a whole new debate on so many more questions that are out there.
- [132:04]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Oh, completely. But one thing I can say is that the work that's been presented in the book is testable. All it needs is money behind it. Sure, it's testable, it's verifiable and it replicates. And if I can find data that replicates just with my own eyes, I'm sure with a budget I could find a lot more.
- [132:31]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Or perhaps with the help of the Internet, we've got our own resources here, our extensive branch of people watching this video, let me know in the comments or hit me up in discord or even reach out to Patrick here. You yourself found evidence of this sphere network. I think it'd be interesting to pull up on the socials, whether it's Twitter or Instagram, reach out, send us images of the spheres that landed in your backyard or perhaps, you know, video footage of certain celestial objects exploding. I would love to see more of this. It's really interesting. Or even just some paranormal hauntings that you think can be explained with this. I think is a really worthwhile conversation to have at the very least.
- [133:19]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I think so. And it's a breath of fresh air as well for the, for the community and for, you know, productions, TV and so forth.
- [133:29]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Definitely.
- [133:29]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
It's all been a bit stuck in the mud for the last 10 years.
- [133:32]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Sure.
- [133:33]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
You know what I mean? So I think something new is, is needed.
- [133:36]
Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Absolutely. And yeah, it's something that I'm definitely going to have to consider moving forward as well. So. Patrick, thank you so much for your time. I won't take up any more time here on in the skiff, but I do appreciate you. Where can people find me? You?
- [133:51]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
I'm mostly on X. Yep. Account is Patrick Q. Jackson, the Steer network. Just look it up.
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
Perfect. And I'll leave, I'll leave the link to the book in the description. You guys can check it out as well. Patrick, thank you so much.
- [134:03]
Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
No worries. Thank you very much.
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
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Host (possibly a podcaster or interviewer)
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Patrick Jackson (Guest, author of the Sphere Network)
Okay, give it a try.
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