Armchair Anonymous: Unauthorized Evacuation III

Summary

Armchair Expert: Armchair Anonymous – Unauthorized Evacuation III (May 8, 2026)

Overview

"Unauthorized Evacuation III" continues Armchair Expert's beloved tradition of inviting listeners to share their most harrowing, hilarious, and human stories of unexpected bodily emergencies ("evacuations"). Hosts Dax Shepard and Monica Padman engage callers in honest—and often uproarious—conversations about the unpredictability of the human body and the humility it can force upon us all. With a blend of empathy, self-deprecation, and lighthearted banter, Dax and Monica create a confessional space that turns mortifying memories into moments of shared humanity and laughter.

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Key Discussion Points & Caller Stories

[Kayla’s Ulta Incident] (02:18 – 17:18)

• Background: Kayla, from Orange County, shares her college-era story. Juggling two jobs and school, her stressful lifestyle led to 6 days of constipation.
• Trigger: Prescribed a laxative after finally visiting the doctor, Kayla downplays her inexperience at the pharmacy, claiming she’s used it before. She takes the medicine at her busy job at an Ulta cosmetics store—an unfortunate choice.
• Incident: Feeling a “rumbling,” Kayla bets on it being just a fart. Instead, she experiences a full-blown accident while wearing a long black skirt and thong. She runs to the bathroom, cleans up, throws away the underwear, and rushes home to change.
• Aftermath: Upon returning, she discovers traces left in the store. Furtively cleans with makeup remover and alcohol. Weeks later, the manager vaguely references "the cameras" but never explicitly confronts her, leaving Kayla mortified and ambiguous about what was actually seen.
• Reflections: Kayla’s accident becomes an icebreaker for her, eventually a badge of survival, though initially deeply embarrassing.
• Hosts’ Analysis: Dax and Monica debate the manager’s actions: whether corporate complaints or hazmat concerns warranted a mention, or if ignoring would be kinder. Dax concludes, “What makes this one uniquely cruel… you still had a whole shift to get through. Most people we hear abscond” (15:05).
• Notable Quote:
  • Dax: “I really like when it happens to girls. Makes me like those girls so much more. I like a girl who's had an accident like this more than one that hasn't.” (14:41)

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[Josh’s Teacher Training Fiasco] (23:27 – 32:04)

• Setting: Recent graduate Josh describes his first day at a summer school teaching fellowship on the East Coast.
• Build-Up: On the morning bus ride to the school, Josh’s stomach becomes uneasy—likely nerves, he thinks. By arrival, it’s urgent.
• Incident: While trying to find the staff bathroom, he settles for an empty boys’ room. Just steps from his goal, he fails to make it in time. Fortunately, his boxer briefs contain the worst. He cleans up, tosses his underwear, uses copious paper products, and rejoins his cohort commando-style.
• Teaching While Commando: Faces anxiety, self-consciousness all day—especially wearing khakis—with nothing to “hide” behind. Successfully finishes the day without anyone noticing.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Dax: “Quick inspection, khakis look. Okay, go rejoin the group. Really, I'm not going to say anything to anyone.” (30:02)
  • Josh: “It’s just a weird feeling to not have underwear on in front of a classroom of children in khakis…” (30:54)
• Lesson: Always carry extra clothes—advice for all teachers in their first year.

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[Rachel’s River Tubing Disaster] (36:14 – 47:03)

• Story: Rachel (an alter ego), from Wisconsin, nervously recounts a memory she’s repressed for a decade. New to the area, she joins a group tubing trip to make friends.
• Trigger: Eats a mayonnaise sandwich (left out overnight) before drinking on the river. About halfway through, food poisoning hits hard—multiple rounds.
• Incident: Weighs privacy versus imminent disaster. Ducks to the side of the river, attempts to “splash around” to cover up, but ultimately has to relieve herself three times while still among the group.
• Sandbar Scene: At a crowded sandbar, unable to escape, fears being discovered, but manages to maintain plausible deniability by avoiding eye contact and not looking at the water.
• Aftermath: Never sees the group again. Boyfriend is too distracted by his own extreme sunburn to notice. Rachel dissociates from the event; Monica assures her this is far more common than she thinks.
• Notable Moments:
  • Monica: “You'd be surprised how many people have dealt with that.” (46:18)
  • Dax: “You kind of got lucky. Of all the places, I got away with it.” (46:07)

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[Cara’s (Seattle) Young Life Camp Catastrophe] (47:12 – 58:29)

• Camp Context: Cara describes Young Life camp in BC, Canada—a Christian retreat accessible by boat, surrounded by wilderness.
• Set-Up: After a hungry night, Cara eats three fiber one bars, ignorant of their effects.
• The “Caribbe” Ride: On a group banana-boat-style tube, a high-speed turn tosses everyone into the water. Water jets up Cara’s swimsuit, triggering abrupt “fiber one bar poops.”
• Minestrone Soup Analogy: Poop escapes the spandex shorts; Cara is surrounded by floating debris in the inlet. She panics, attempts to discreetly “stir” the water, then endures a half-mile no-shoes walk back to camp in soggy, soiled shorts.
• Resolution: Cleans up in camp bathroom, ultimately dives into the pool, reasoning chlorine will sanitize, displaying peak adolescent logic.
• Collateral Damage: A cabin-mate breaks her nose in the same accident, handily distracting everyone from Cara’s disaster.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Cara: “So you know like minestrone soup? If you were to, like, dump that out into a tub that already has water in it... but then you sit in the tub with it...” (52:43)
  • Dax: “Percentage wise, there’s six passengers—one broke their nose and one shit their pants.” (56:41)

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Additional Highlights & Memorable Quotes

• Dax’s Theory on Empathy: “What unites us all… if you haven’t had an unauthorized evacuation, you’re going to at some point.”
• Kayla’s Father’s Naming Story: “My dad said he found [my name] while sitting on the toilet in the baby book.” (02:24)
• Monica on Solidarity: “You'd be surprised how many people have dealt with that.” (46:18)
• Dax on Corporate Blame Game (re Kayla): “Hey, when you shit on the floor, you gotta tell me. Because customers complained.” (16:05)
• Cara on Youth Camp Irony: “The emo teen to Young Life staff to therapist pipeline is crazy.” (49:01)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:00] – Episode opening, banter and context for “Unauthorized Evacuation” stories
• [02:18] – Call with Kayla (Ulta constipation/laxative story)
• [17:18] – Hosts process Kayla’s story; transition
• [23:27] – Call with Josh (teacher training, bus ride fail)
• [32:07] – Call with Rachel (Wisconsin river tubing disaster)
• [47:12] – Call with Cara (Young Life Camp, fiber bar / banana boat incident)
• [58:33] – Host reflections and wrap-up comments

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Thematic Notes

• Emphasis on turning shame into camaraderie; stories are told without judgment.
• Running joke: Always blame “the kids” or “the dog” for accidents in public.
• Acknowledgment that almost everyone, at some point, experiences a loss of bodily control—it's simply part of being human.
• Hosts repeatedly advocate for compassion, normalization, and humor in response to bodily mishaps.

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Tone & Language

The episode retains its trademark Armchair Expert blend of wit, self-deprecation, and genuine empathy. The hosts’ laughter is contagious, and their support for callers transforms moments of horror into sources of healing and hilarity.

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Notable Quotes Collection (with Timestamps)

• Kayla (on her aftermath): “It bonded us for life. It was a good story afterwards, but… it took me a long time to admit that happened.” (14:33)
• Dax: “What makes this one uniquely cruel is… you still had a whole shift to get through. Most people we hear, people abscond… and you had to keep plodding along.” (15:07)
• Josh: “It’s just a weird feeling to not have underwear on in front of a classroom of children in khakis…” (30:54)
• Rachel: “I want to be a good friend impression. I don’t want to be the girl that shits her pants on the river.” (40:23)
• Cara: “So you know like minestrone soup… but then you sit in the tub with it.” (52:43)
• Monica: “You'd be surprised how many people have dealt with that.” (46:18)

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Conclusion

This episode revels in the communal awkwardness of being human. Vulnerability and laughter combine as the guests and hosts affirm: what could be more unifying than the humble, embarrassing, and ultimately life-affirming “unauthorized evacuation”? Whether in the middle of a store shift, a classroom, a river float, or a Christian camp lake, the body’s unpredictability is the great equalizer—and, with the right attitude, a source of the best stories.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome, welcome. Welcome to Armchair Anonymous. I'm Dax Shepard. I'm joined by Monica Padman.

[B]

It's your favorite day.

[A]

It's my favorite day. And I'm shocked. There's always been three. We must be titling them different.

[B]

We're titling them differently.

[A]

We must be. But this is unauthorized evacuation 3 Tell us about an unexpected evacuation and they're always beautiful. They are great and endearing and life affirming.

[B]

It's the thing that's going to bring us together.

[A]

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[C]

them both

[A]

Gotta know I'm gonna keep on shining.

[B]

Hello.

[D]

Hi. Dax and Monica.

[A]

Kayla. Are you from a long line of Kayla's? Are you the first?

[D]

I'm the first Kayla. My dad said he found it while sitting on the toilet in the baby book. So that's how I got my name.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Oh, wonderful. He was leafing through it.

[B]

The best ideas can come to you on the toilet.

[A]

Yeah. Also, I mean, pretty good. Dad. I don't know when you were born, but probably 90s. Were you born in the 90s?

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

96.

[A]

The fact that he's taking time to read a baby naming book. Not probably. Super typical.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

And I mean on the toilet. Maybe that's how we got to this story.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And if we make the opposite argument, you could also argue he only read it because he was stuck on the toilet and there was nothing else to read.

[B]

No, but we're glass half full here.

[A]

Where are you, Kayla?

[D]

I'm in Orange county.

[A]

And it happens even in sunny California. Unauthorized evac.

[B]

I don't like hearing that. Well, we know that's true. It's happened to both of us.

[A]

Personally. Yeah.

[D]

Honestly, wasn't my proudest at first, but you know, I've since been telling to like break the ice at work and at parties and, you know, it's funny now, so that's great.

[A]

All right, walk us through it. Tell us the year, what was happening?

[D]

So it was 2019. I was freshly in college. I honestly was like very, very stressed at the time. I was working a full time job at a makeup counter and then a part time job at this snow cone place and then I was also going to school full time.

[B]

Wow.

[F]

Wow.

[D]

I set that up to say I was very, very stressed. My GI wasn't exactly working.

[A]

So like periods of constipation then. Haunus.

[D]

Exactly. Yeah. It had gone like six days and my now husband was actually telling me and he was like, you know what? Like, I had to get an enema one time. Can't let this go any longer.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Six days.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

I was like, okay, I'll go to the doctor. So I went to the doctor and she was like, you're fine. Probably just a bit of constipation. You've had a lot of stress in your life. Like, you're fine. She's like, I'll give you something.

[A]

You probably never had a long enough window to sit down and relax, to let things start moving. You were racing from one thing to another.

[D]

Yeah, my diet wasn't great. It was probably a bunch of things. So like, I was like, okay, cool. Well, fast track it. Go to the doctor, get something for me. Great. Next day, go to pick it up at the pharmacy. I am late for work because I'm always late everywhere. But I go to the pharmacy to go pick it up and they do a consultation with you when you haven't taken the medication before. But I decided that that was the day I was going to tell a little white lie and say, oh, no, I've taken this before. Like, I'm good. Thank you. So left and then went to my job at the makeup counter. It was a Saturday, super, super busy. I popped the pill. You know, I'm just going about my day real quick.

[A]

Is this a store in a mall?

[D]

So, no, it's actually like in a shopping center. I'm not ashamed to say it was an ulta in a shopping center.

[A]

Oh, great. You know that Monica trusted brand.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Was super, super busy. I could not even leave the second just because there were so many people. And so I started to feel like a grumbling in my stomach and I was like, oh, gosh. Well, I don't have any time to go to the bathroom. I usually crop dust the back of the store. You know, just kind of like, take a little walk.

[A]

Sure.

[D]

But I couldn't. I was helping too many people. Color matching, doing all of that to get my commission. And so I felt the rumbling. Felt the rumbling. And I was like, okay. I know this feeling. Like, it's just a fart. I haven't even farted in six days. Like, this is totally fine. Like, I'll be okay.

[A]

What were you wearing? Can I ask quickly?

[D]

Yeah. That was actually a big part of the story. I was wearing a long black skirt.

[A]

Oh, okay, great.

[D]

Some tiny woman's underwear. And then, yeah, just like this cute little shirt. It had to wear all black to work. Anyways, I'm going to walk around the back of my counter. And I got a second to breathe and I was like, okay, I'll just let it go right here. So I let it go, and all of a sudden I feel something running down my face.

[A]

Ah. Are you in the center of the store? You behind the counter?

[D]

My counter is in the center of the store. And then I kind of have this little loop behind my counter where I can kind of hide from the rest of the people in the store. So that's kind of where I am because I was like, okay, no one's in the back here. Let me just step to the side.

[A]

But it is a public part of the store.

[D]

Customer totally could have seen me. And it's a very busy Saturday.

[B]

Oh.

[D]

I was like, oh, no, something's running down my leg. I was like, what did I take? So I go run to the back of the store where the bathroom is, assess the situation. And I'm just covered.

[A]

You're covered?

[D]

Diarrhea all over my thong. Inside of my skirt.

[A]

In your shirt because it was tucked in your skirt.

[D]

Shirt, skirt and shirt. My Shirt was tucked into my skirt.

[A]

Full wardrobe. Took out the whole.

[D]

Literally took out the whole wardrobe. I'm like panicking now. Thank God no one's in the bathroom the same time as I am. But I'm taking all the toilet paper, just like trying to like get it off myself. I throw away my thong because I'm like, there's no saving this thing. And I'm panicking. I'm like, what did I take? What do I do? I don't even know. I'm panicking. I'm not thinking. And I live right across the street at the time. Like, literally, like, I could have walked home, but I obviously didn't for obvious reasons. I get out of the bathroom, I see my manager in passing and I say, hey, I gotta go. Emergency, I'll be back. And she was like, everything okay? And I was like, I gotta go. So I just booked it out of the store. I sit in my car, can't believe that happened. I'm like crying. I'm like, oh my gosh, like, what am I doing? And I look at the pill bottle, Type in the name of the pill into Google. Sure enough, it's a laxative.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And I was not supposed to take it until I was at home or by a toilet.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Not at work. Probably the one they give you for a colonoscopy cleanse.

[B]

Like, probably a powerful enema.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, that's what my friend was saying. She was like, sounds very similar to when I had mine. I was like, okay, great. But anyways, I have to go back to work. I need this job. I can't just like not show back up. I don't know what I was thinking. I probably could have called, but it was a busy Saturday. So run home, I get changed, don't think anything of it. And I'm like, I'm in the clear. That emptied me all out. I'll be fine.

[A]

Well, this is a two parter,

[B]

maybe three or four parter, I don't know.

[D]

Well, thankfully not a two parter, but it's not the best situation. When I get back, I get back and it's still busy in the store. And I'm now in like full heavy sweats just because nerves or whatever. Maybe the laxative, I don't really know, but I'm by my counter and my counter was like packed before. There's not a soul to be seen. But the store is still busy.

[A]

Oh.

[D]

I was like, oh my gosh. Just because I'm not here for a second. No one wanted to help Me like, what's going on? And so I'm walking around the counter and I'm like, oh, my gosh, like, something smells really bad over here.

[E]

I mean, yeah, yes, of course, if

[B]

it ran down your leg, it's gonna land stuff somewhere.

[D]

I honestly was like, no, the bad things already happened to me. There's no way, like, it can get worse. So I'm not thinking. We have kids all the time in our stores leaving stuff around the store, like food and all that. And I was like, oh, someone probably threw something away at my counter. So I like, open the counter doors and like, nothing in there. Okay. So weird. I was like, but man, like, this is really, really bad. So I go to walk around the corner where not a lot of people go, and sure enough, all over the floor.

[E]

All over.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

It was just such a tiny amount.

[A]

Okay. A lot of things. I'm so glad I didn't ask earlier because my first thought was I wanted to know, do you get any on the floor? But I'm glad that was saved. But how the fuck did your manager and none of the other employees stumble upon this pile of harness when you had gone home, changed, cleaned up?

[D]

That I don't know. But I'm assuming probably people in the store had to know because there was no one by my counter. I'll get to the part later about what happened after that to give you more of an answer of people like, new or not. But I frantically just used a bunch of makeup remover and alcohol that they have in the makeup stores, just cleaning it up, making sure no one would see me again. Back of the counter, I'm like, no one's here anyways. Like, it's fine. Clean it up. No one knows it's me anyways, right? Except if anyone was in the store and noticed I changed, which I like, literally just thinking about now. But anyways, I pick it up, throw it away, all is done. I'm like, okay, cool. Like, I only have a couple more hours of my shift. The worst is over. It's fine. It's okay. So that is my story. But a couple weeks later, my manager comes up to me and she was like, hey, is everything okay? And the reason she's asking me is because my mom was actually in the hospital a few months before dealing with a whole bunch of things medical wise. And I was like, no, everything was fine. And she's like, well, the day that you left, you know, you left in such a rush, such a hurry. Then you came back in New Clothes. And I was like, yeah, no, everything's fine. I was fine. And she goes, well, you know, there's cameras.

[B]

Well, then why did she ask you? She could have done the right thing and been like, you know what? This is what happened.

[A]

It's in order. There was, like, three great things to do before this one. Ignore it. The girl already dealt with it. She cleaned it up. This doesn't need to be addressed. It's not like she's going to start doing this all the time.

[B]

What if it became a king?

[A]

She's like, I just want to make sure this doesn't become a routine of yours.

[B]

Right?

[A]

And then. Yeah, second would be to come right out with it, like, so, hey, you know, I saw the cameras that you had shit all over the floor again. I don't even know what we're going to talk about. Okay, I'm sorry. So she says, there's cameras, and what do you do? You just die.

[D]

No, I literally was like, yeah, you know, I know there's cameras. And she was like, okay. And I was like, all right. And she's like, okay, have a good shift.

[F]

Okay.

[B]

So you never had to say, say it.

[A]

She tried to do it, and then she ran out of gumption.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

So I'm like, assuming. Obviously, she says, you know, there's cameras she's seen, but, like, till this day, I mean, unless she listened to this podcast, you know, I don't know. But we've never talked about it again. No one ever said anything. No one ever told me that they saw anything.

[B]

I feel annoyed at her.

[A]

You do?

[B]

Yeah. She already went through the worst possible thing that could ever happen to anyone on Earth.

[A]

Yeah, I know. I agree. This is a pointless thing to bring up.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Let's make a strong man case for her.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

She's a manager. Corporate's tough. These tapes are there. They could be seen. Should someone above her become aware of this? And they say, hey, what did you say to Kayla about her defecating on the floor of our showroom? And she goes, I haven't said anything to her. And they're like, you don't think you need to talk to an employee who defecates in the store?

[B]

No, because it's not something she does. It was clearly an accident. She came back right away, and most people wouldn't even come back. So I just really don't feel comfortable talking about.

[A]

We just have a. Well, we have a hazmat procedure for the safety of our customers and the other employees, so we probably should have did some Infected. I know. She used makeup. You're fired.

[D]

The hazmat situation is crazy.

[B]

Unfortunately, those employees were also bad employees, because they should have been like, what's happening over there? No one's going over there. Go look.

[D]

Like, ah. Oh, no.

[B]

Someone everywhere.

[A]

Yeah, Someone's diaper blew up.

[B]

Exactly. Some kid.

[A]

Yeah. Always blame a kid. Someone brought a dog in, we'd say no dogs. Yeah. Now, really quick, Kayla. I have just recently done the colonoscopy, and I wasn't backed up for six days. And even given that I had, like, nine or 10 rounds of quite active and like, whoa, there's still more. So I'm shocked. That was the only explosion.

[D]

That was the only one at work that day.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

I went home after, and I was miserable. The pain only got worse because I just had so much more and more coming out. I had the other job, like I said, but I called in that day.

[B]

Oh, good.

[D]

Funny enough, my best friend went through the same thing at the same time as I did. She doesn't have such a crazy story, but we were at a restaurant the next day, and her story happened.

[B]

Oh, my.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[D]

It bonded us for life. It was a good story afterwards, but, man, like, it took me a long time to, like, admit that that happened.

[A]

I really like when it happens to girls. Makes me like those girls so much more. I like a girl who's had an accident like this more than one that hasn't. Well, all things are equal. Identical twins. One has had this experience. I want that one.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

My dad would have been proud for sure.

[A]

Yeah. Like, you're a survivor. What makes this one uniquely cruel is that you still had a whole shift to get through most of these stories we hear, people abscond to back to their hotel or wherever, and you had to keep plodding along.

[B]

That's why you should be given a medal, not be put on blast.

[A]

Yeah. I love that you just doubled down. You're like, yeah.

[B]

And that was a great.

[A]

It was kind of a. You. You want to play this game of chicken? I'm going to make you say I. I'm not going to say you say yes.

[B]

I know there are cameras. We all know that.

[A]

Here's now what I think may have happened. Corporate got the complaint from a customer that there was human feces on the ground. The manager was asked to account for this. I don't know. I didn't see any. Go through the tapes. Oh, my God. It was Kayla. Maybe customers complain like, there's shit on the floor of your store, and it Came to her. She had to review the tapes. Otherwise she wouldn't have even known. If it's not that she didn't see it in action, someone would have told her, watch the tapes. Basically, what she wanted to get to was like, hey, when you shit on the floor, you got to tell me. Because customers complained. And then I got called, and then she panicked when you stonewalled her.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

That's also very plausible.

[E]

I know.

[B]

But my guess would be that the customer would go to someone in the store. They're not going to wait till they get home and call the corporate. They're going to go some like, hey, there's something going on back there.

[D]

I would agree with you, Monica. I mean, where we live, the complaints we got in our store were, like, crazy. But weeks later, the reason I think

[A]

we can rule out someone flagged a manager in the store is the manager would have dealt with the shit on the ground. So the manager couldn't have known real time.

[B]

But I just think it's weird that they would call corporate. Asking someone up front like, hey, but

[A]

some bougie people, they live to call that number.

[B]

It's on speed, dad.

[D]

New perspective of this whole story. I would have never thought someone called corporate.

[A]

I would love to get a hold of the manager and it was her recollection and just say, like, walk us through this. And what was your game plan when you brought up the cameras?

[B]

I have some questions.

[A]

If you are an armchair. If luck is on our side and you are the manager and this sounds familiar to you, call us. Please call us.

[B]

But know that I'm going to have some tough questions.

[A]

Yeah. And you're not going to back down when she double down.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Well, Kayla, and I'm sorry that happened to you, but it's still a very cute story.

[D]

Thank you. Can I give a couple shout outs before I go?

[A]

Of course.

[D]

Well, I just wanted to shout out my two best friends who actually told me about this podcast, which are Aaliyah and Justin. They've been day one armchairs. I started probably during COVID You guys actually have saved me a lot. I'm two months postpartum, and I was deep in the trenches here for actually quite a long time. So your guys's podcast gets me through day to day. So I appreciate you guys.

[A]

Congrats.

[D]

Thank you. And my husband, who also listens, Brad, who couldn't be here, he's the IT guy. I hope I did this right.

[B]

You did great.

[A]

And I like Brad because Brad was getting involved with your bowels. Back in college, he was a like, I'm gonna have to get an enema for you. He's a good man.

[D]

He's got my back for sure.

[A]

Yeah. And your backside.

[E]

Oh,

[A]

well, Kayla, lovely meeting you. Have a great day.

[D]

Nice to meet you guys. Thanks so much.

[A]

All right, take care.

[B]

When I hear these stories, I have to say, like, ptsd. Well, yeah, I have ptsd. But also, I'm really grateful I was alone.

[A]

That you were alone.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. In public is really sad.

[B]

I can't handle that. I can't even handle, like, tripping in front of people.

[A]

I can't imagine what those people. When I had to go on the pch.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Because I just was unwilling to go in my pants.

[B]

I know. That's so strange.

[A]

You think, is it your instinct, like, don't get it on your clothes?

[B]

Of course. But then at some point you're just

[A]

like, okay, I know. I think the more polite thing to do would have been to just go on my pants. But I was just like, oh, we gotta pull.

[B]

Get out of here.

[A]

It's coming out. I gotta pull my pants down.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And there's a gutter.

[B]

That might be most people's instinct. It's just mine is like, I guess

[A]

people had to have thought I was homeless.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

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[C]

Good, good. This is wild.

[A]

Oh, it's not even gotten wild yet. Josh, where are you?

[C]

I am in Southern California. We'll leave it a little bit vague.

[A]

Okay, interesting, because we just got off the phone with someone in Orange county, and I got to tell you, we don't talk to a lot of Californians.

[B]

It seems to be that prompt is very California heavy.

[A]

Yeah, just considering we're 10% of the population. They're not 10% of our callers.

[C]

This story doesn't take place in California, though I have had plenty of these in California.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

Of course. I know, Josh. Me too. Me too. Okay, so walk us through this episode.

[C]

I, after college, was looking at different career paths and joined a teaching fellowship program to become a teacher. So that summer, we were on a college campus on the east coast, and they get you all together and it's intensive training. You're going through pedagogy and how to learn, how to make sure the students don't overrun your classroom in the first year and all of that good stuff. And then you actually do some summer school teaching as well, so they throw you to the wolves and they let those summer student kids really take the brunt of all of your terrible teaching. At the beginning, can I ask, was

[A]

this a rural setting or a city setting for the school you were going

[C]

to teach in one of the big cities, inner city school, which was similar to the environment that we were going to end up teaching in for most of us as well. So they tried to mirror that. The first couple weeks you're there, you're really kind of on campus doing some of these classes, and then summer school starts up and they essentially assign you a school, and then you get bused from the campus to your school every day. So you're up early, you're there before the students get there. There's some prep work that goes into it, and then you get to teach a day of school and, and really get that practice.

[A]

I'm so sorry, I'm, I'm getting mired in the details, but these are students who had to take summer school. Right? So this isn't the cream of the Crop.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

Yeah. Like my troubled kids had to go to.

[B]

Sure, sure, sure.

[A]

You're not teaching the gifted and talented program overachievers necessary. It's like kids who off and got too many detentions had to go to summer school. At least in my town, that's how it was.

[C]

I think it's a lot of that for high school. This was in elementary school. So I think it's also kids who are just maybe a little bit behind and need some of that ext.

[A]

Okay, great.

[C]

We don't need to dive into ed policy, but really a strong proponent of year round schooling for students because of that summer learning loss that happens.

[B]

Oh wow, that was good.

[A]

That's part of a Malcolm Gladwell book, the Gap, because.

[B]

Oh boy.

[A]

I know.

[B]

No, go ahead.

[A]

Socioeconomically there isn't a huge disadvantage when you start school. And if you end the school, it doesn't really matter your socioeconomic status. You guys will both get the same amount. It's the summertime that the kids from poor families fall dramatically behind because the parents can't oversee any activities. There's no reading happening.

[B]

Yeah, makes sense.

[A]

So that's where they're falling behind. If you went to school endlessly, that gap, is that right?

[C]

Exactly. And if you think about just the other advantages of like living in a house with air conditioning over the summer or having parents home to read to you when they're not working all summer long.

[B]

Even food.

[A]

Yeah, the food scarcity.

[C]

Yeah, exactly. But yes, you don't have the top readers in your class when you're teaching summer school.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Okay, you're on the bus 6, 36, 45 in the morning and then it's maybe a 15 minute bus ride to school that morning. Everyone's excited. First day of teaching, you get on the bus, you have your little bagged lunch and pretty early into the bus ride, I know that things are not feeling great. You know, you're okay. It's nerves. First day of school, Butterflies.

[A]

Uh huh. That's your explanation? You didn't go to my breakfast or my dinner or I drank too much. You didn't have any explanations yet.

[D]

Yet.

[C]

No explanations yet. I'm young, so the stomach's about as good as it can be at that point.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Five more minutes in and you're really starting to think, all right, I got to come up with a plan here. What are we going to do when we get to this building I've never been to before? And how are we going to go find a bathroom quick. So my mom was in schools for 30 years. And I know in the office there's usually an adult bathroom.

[B]

Okay, wow.

[C]

So we're going to get there, we're going to go straight to the office, find that bathroom, we're going to be okay. So we're pulling up to the school. Things are starting to get a little worse. And I'm like, do I need to start, like pushing my way to the front of the bus here? Like, what are we going to do?

[A]

Use the emergency exit door?

[C]

Yeah. It takes a while to get off those buses. Sometimes I see the building. We're like, okay, all right, we're going to make it. And then we kind of pull around to the side of the school. So we're not, as it turns out, going in the front entrance. We're going to go in the staff entrance, which is kind of around to the side. Not to disrupt whatever's happening in the front. The plan is to get everyone together, kind of do a tour of the school and then settle into our classrooms. And I see the door. I don't know what's on the other side of that door, but I know I need to be on the other side of that door as quickly as possible. So door's open, I kind of just make a run for it. Whatever people want to think at this point, it's better than what's going to happen.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

We're in the school and I'm looking around and I say, okay, we come across the boys bathroom. Is it an adult bathroom? No, but there are no students in the school. I feel okay about it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is the policy in general? Teachers aren't supposed to use those bathrooms or they can't.

[C]

I certainly did in my years teaching. But like after hours, I think it's pretty frowned upon to use the student bathroom while students are around.

[A]

That's a good policy for the guys.

[B]

Yeah, I never thought about that.

[A]

I trust the women.

[C]

Yeah, that's probably right. Okay, so we're approaching, we see the boys bathroom. There's no students there. And I'm like 15 steps away. And that's it really.

[A]

Oh, we didn't get.

[C]

Didn't quite make it.

[A]

Oh, are you wearing khaki pants? Pants.

[C]

Khaki pants.

[A]

Of course.

[C]

Classic teacher uniform. Khaki pants, button down tie, textbook. Thankfully, those boxer briefs are doing the Lord's work right now. We're not in great shape, but we're not in the worst shape possible.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

So we get into the stall, which as we've talked about is like Meant for a seven year old. It is so low to the ground. And under normal circumstances, this maybe isn't the worst thing, but the toilet paper and paper towel situation at schools is not good. We're trying to do whatever I can in there to contain it. I got to keep the pants clean. That's the ultimate goal here. There's no way for me to get back. I don't even really know where we are in this city. I had no change of clothes. So we're using the paper towel, the toilet paper, all of that. We kind of wad up the underwear. That's a lost cause. That goes right to the bottom of that trash can.

[A]

Sure, sure.

[C]

Throw a bunch more toilet paper and stuff on top.

[A]

Cover it up because you have manners.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Quick inspection, khakis look. Okay, go rejoin the group. Really? I'm not going to say anything to anyone. At that point we do the tour and really the rest of the day I'm in front of the classroom for the very first time. I'm commando.

[A]

Can I ask really quickly, how long do you think the duration was of that whole project? Because my hunch is you're gone kind of a while.

[C]

My absence was noted for sure.

[B]

They probably thought you were car sick from the bus ride.

[C]

That's right. That would be a generous, swampy ride.

[B]

That's what I would think.

[A]

Oh, he's got a sick tummy.

[C]

So then you're teaching for the next three hours and insanely self conscious about am I sitting over here? Am I trying to hide myself behind books and desks? And I'm not really probably getting up and engaging as much as I should. It's just a weird feeling to not have underwear on in front of a classroom of children

[A]

in khakis too, I'll add, because there's a lot of room for a lot of slip. Slappy and bouncing.

[F]

Oh no.

[A]

General penis and testicle plug.

[B]

Oh no. Yeah. Did you feel like I'm not a pervert but like I. I'm behaving like one?

[C]

It really is a weird feeling. There's no secondary layer. Thankfully to this story, you get through the day. No one has said or noticed anything. And you really just learn a couple of lessons about what you pack in your backpack to make sure you're. You're covered in these situations. Moving forward.

[A]

I know none of us is ever gonna carry a second pair of pants with us, but we should. But probably if we have a bag, why not just have them in there?

[B]

I mean, I have so much stuff in my bag. Why wouldn't I just have an extra little.

[A]

Yeah, you'd set off some bear spray and some mousetraps and shit en route to get the pants.

[C]

Once you have your own classroom that's yours, you kind of have a place to stash some extra clothes. That's what we ended up doing for the rest of my teaching career.

[A]

Well, wonderful meeting you, Josh. Do you wanna give any shout outs?

[C]

I do. Thank you for asking. My coworkers, Danielle and Caitlin are the first couple of people I found who were also arm cherries. So I appreciate them and obviously appreciate you guys.

[A]

Well, wonderful meeting you, Josh. Thank you for that.

[C]

You guys too. This is super cool. Thank you so much.

[A]

All right, take care.

[C]

You all too.

[E]

Hi, guys. Can you hear me okay?

[A]

Oh, beautifully. Is this quote Rachel?

[E]

It is.

[A]

How did you choose the name Rachel?

[E]

Oh, it's so funny you asked that. That's like an alter ego between my boyfriend and I so I finally get to use it for real.

[A]

Does Rachel only come out in the evening?

[B]

Yeah. What's Rachel like?

[A]

Erwin? Drinking.

[E]

Rachel's fun. Rachel gets a little bit tipsy. She likes her wine.

[A]

I had a hunch that's when Rachel came out.

[B]

She's like silly and frisky.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Everyone should have a Rachel.

[B]

Well, I have an alter ego. Sonica.

[A]

Sonica. What happens?

[B]

She drinks a lot of water.

[A]

Oh, yeah. It's kind of the opposite.

[B]

Yeah, it's really wild when she comes out. It's rare. What?

[A]

Well, I was just gonna say if drinking is like your main.

[E]

What?

[B]

Monica does not drink a lot of water. So if I'm drinking a lot of water, it's like, oh, Sonny's here.

[A]

I know. My point is, if you drink alcohol all the time, your alter ego can't be the girl who drinks wine. It's gotta be the one that drinks water. I just think that's a really funny reversal. That your naughty girl drinks water.

[B]

I know I'm funny.

[A]

Rachel, where are you in the country. Country?

[E]

I am from Wisconsin.

[A]

Oh, beautiful. Okay, so walk us through your unfortunate evacuation.

[E]

This is such a bittersweet experience to

[A]

have to meet us in these circumstances.

[D]

Right, Exactly.

[A]

Yeah. You'd rather be telling us about a first place trophy you got.

[E]

Well, I've never told this story. I told this story from the depths of my brain. I've never written it out. I try not to think about it. This is one of my deepest, darkest.

[B]

This is a big deal.

[A]

I feel so privileged. Thank you.

[E]

I can't even tell people that I'm on The podcast pass, because then it's going to be let out. So I will get started. This happened about 10 years ago now, So I was newly out of college. I was lucky enough to find a job right away up by where my boyfriend, we'll call him Corey. That's where he grew up. So we passed from Southern Wisconsin and we moved all the way up to central Wisconsin just a couple months after graduation. But we were new to the area. Even though Corey was from the area, we didn't have a lot of friends. So both of us were starting new jobs and we wanted to find some other couples to hang out with.

[A]

How do you do that?

[E]

Right. That's one of the hardest things as an adult to find adult friends and couple friends. So luckily, with that new job, I connected with a girl named Maddie, we'll call her. We have a lot in common, so we both kind of be outdoorsy types. We like fishing, hunting, and we thought maybe we could hang out outside of work. And we finally reached the summertime and Maddie was telling me about how her and her group of friends, who are also a couple, they were going to go tubing.

[A]

I love tubing. Had you gone before?

[E]

As a child, I had been tubing on the Little Rock river, but this tubing was actually on the Fox River. So it's a little bit bigger of a river, a little bit different of an experience.

[A]

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[E]

So we got invited. I was super pumped. So you guys are familiar with tubing?

[A]

Love it but for people that are not familiar, you get a bunch of friends and a bunch of inner tubes and you get a second or third empty tube. You put a cooler in it, it's chock full of beer and you float down a river and get hammered. Right?

[E]

That's absolutely right.

[A]

And it's about the most fun you can have.

[B]

Drinking it is really fun.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Until you go over a waterfall.

[B]

Yeah, I wasn't going to bring it.

[A]

Was that the first time you had gone?

[B]

No, I used to go in Helen all the time. But that was very low key.

[A]

Okay, great.

[E]

For this trip it usually takes anywhere from two to four hours depending on how high the river is. On this day the river was a little bit low. We were expecting a pretty long ride. We're getting ready. We're very excited. Maddie decides to drive with us. It's about an hour and 15 minutes away from where we live. I had a last minute thought I hadn't eaten yet and I was going to be on a river all day. I just really quick throw my stuff together. I grab mayonnaise from the counter to make a chip.

[A]

If this was a show or a movie, there'd be a close up right now and a push in on the mayonnaise on the counter.

[E]

Yes, that's exactly right. So Corey, like I said, he's coming with. He has a notorious midnight. The mayonnaise was out on the counter. I turned to Corey say hey, do you think this is okay to eat? And he very confidently said yeah, it's probably fine. Built the container, it was still a little cool but no problem. We're probably safe. Good to go. I whip up the sandwich, scarf it down, we hop in the car and we get going to the river. Once we get to the river, we meet everyone. We hop in the a school bus. So you have to drive up river to float down. We got our cooler full of goodies. So finally we make it to the river. I'm still feeling good, you know, it's a good ride, It's a good day. It's super hot. It's very sunny. We were about an hour and a half into the ride and everyone was just hitting it up. We're having a good time.

[A]

Have you had some beers at this point?

[E]

Oh yeah, absolutely.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great, great.

[E]

However, I started getting this feeling in my stomach.

[A]

Stomach.

[E]

Like something's not quite right. If you guys are familiar. It's that feeling that starts at the very top of your stomach and it. And it gets really bubbly and then all Of a sudden, it's moving lower and lower into your intestines.

[A]

You can feel it.

[E]

All of a sudden, I'm sweating.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

I'm clamming. I'm very quickly assessing the situation because I know one of two things is going to happen. I'm either going to push the feeling off. It's going to go away. I'm going to be fine. I'm going to keep it together, or this feeling is going to keep on happening over and over again, and it's going to be more and more intense until I finally don't have a choice.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And if I'm you, okay, I'm really quickly. I'm going. Okay, so I could go. I'm going to veer off to the bank of the river. I'm going to pee in a bush, which would be weird because everyone's peeing in the river. So you kind of are already outing yourself that you're really going to shoot. But that's one option. Get off the river, shit in the woods. Second is just pull your bathing suit aside, let it rip. But the problem there is you're in a current, and there is a good chance that that excrement will float on top.

[E]

Oh, no.

[A]

Come into the group. So you got to consider that. Right. So then you're like, do I try to get my tube way out in front of everyone or way behind? This is all the modeling I'd be doing. Were any of these thoughts crossing your mind?

[E]

Absolutely. I was looking at the water.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Where is it? Kind of rocky and slurry. So it was around. And you won't be able to tell. I don't need floating scent anywhere near silver lining. I'm wearing a black bikini bag. Okay.

[B]

We love that.

[A]

Great start.

[E]

The river is lined with private properties. The trees are really thin. There's really nowhere I can go without getting caught for indecent exposure. And again, I don't want to out

[A]

myself and I'm stereotyping. But in Michigan, this is fine. At least in my friendship group. Like, if there's a gal on the trip and she had to, like, this isn't a big deal. I feel like Wisconsin's similar. No.

[E]

Maybe around people, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

It's basically a date.

[A]

That's fair.

[D]

Right?

[E]

So I want to make a good friend impression. I don't want to be the girl that shits her pants on the river. Well, unfortunately, I got to the point point where I had no choice, so that's exactly what I did. I kind of frolicked Around. We were a few drinks deep at this point. I figured people probably thought I was a little tipsy, so I went to the side of the shore, laid in the rock, went under the branches of the trees like a child.

[B]

This is good.

[E]

I made myself feel a little bit more comfortable. And I figured fish poop in this water all the time.

[D]

Fine.

[E]

This is not clean water. I'm not. Not dirtying anything that isn't already ruined. So I let it.

[A]

Here's the problem. You know the thing with the harness is it's floaty.

[E]

Yep. So I didn't really know. I didn't want to look.

[B]

Yeah, no, just leave it.

[E]

Right. So I splashed around. I got my tube cleaned out. I don't want the little inside of part of my tube poop either.

[A]

It's kind of playful too. Splashing.

[B]

I'm so carefree. I'm so Rachel. You were so Rachel right then.

[E]

Yeah, I was. I wish I could say that the story ended there. I felt better it was done, but I can't. So unfortunately, at this point, I was experiencing full blown food poisoning. I figured it had to be from that sandwich. Now I'm telling you, if I was at home, I would every 20 to 30 minutes be visiting the bathroom.

[A]

Right, Right. Did you have any compulsion to throw up? Up. Thank God. It sounds like you didn't have to throw up, though.

[E]

Correct. So I evacuated.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Not one, but three times. Oh, did you do your playful thing every time?

[B]

Did you keep going back?

[A]

Did you alternate strategies?

[E]

Honestly, I got to a point where it was so unfortunate I was in a situation.

[B]

Did you tell your boyfriend end?

[E]

I did, but he went through his own trauma during this trip. So I actually don't know if he remembers me telling him this or not.

[B]

Oh, this sounds like crazy.

[A]

Did he jump off a bridge?

[E]

3rd degree sunburn, full of blisters. Couldn't sleep. Wear sunscreen when you go to bed.

[B]

Also, also don't have mayonnaise before.

[A]

Talk about rough showing for the couple. You know, it's like a movie kind of. It's not the lead characters. It's two folks. Folks were comedic relief that have joined the trip. And one shits herself three times. The other guy's getting fucking blasted with sun.

[E]

We did not make a good impression.

[B]

You didn't tell them, right? You didn't tell the friends?

[E]

I don't think so. One part of this story that I want to share is this trip had what's called a sandbar. It's an area where about 75 to 100 people gather and party and hang out and take a break from floating down the river. Our group decided to stop, take a break. I unfortunately was not done with my situation. So I was way too close to strangers. I'm not saying I looked anyone in the eye while it happened, but I could have.

[A]

Okay. Huh. Wow. Boy, this is great. You never consider when you're out, you're swimming.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

One or two of the people are going through this.

[B]

Were you worried about the sound?

[E]

Not so much.

[A]

Okay, that's good because you're submerged, right?

[B]

Yeah, but it's still.

[A]

You would be worried about the sounds that. Did you ever see some floaters?

[E]

I didn't, but like I said, I tried not to look.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's best. You were disassociated.

[E]

Yeah, yeah. Pmi, probably. But the feeling of it felt like there probably wasn't much solid matter.

[A]

Yeah. Rounds two and three were probably liquid. You know, Rachel, this is a highly successful story if you have to be in this situation underwater 100% and no one even knew.

[E]

Yeah, I got very lucky.

[B]

What about the car ride back?

[E]

I'd be worried about 45 more minutes left of the float after we left the sandbar and I had an hour and 15 minute drive home to just sit in the back and salt.

[B]

Okay. But you were done of evacing, so that's good.

[A]

Were you able to be joyful in between the rounds or were you a total dud on the floating trip?

[E]

That's a great question. I wish I knew. Like I said, I'm so dissociated. I want to say that I was cheerful and I was super personable.

[A]

You were probably just drunk and weird,

[B]

but also you were shitting out the beer too, so, like, you couldn't stay drunk.

[E]

The tipsiness and the intoxication was long gone after the second time it happened.

[A]

The adrenaline.

[B]

Oh boy.

[A]

Did you guys end up developing a good double date friendship with this group or was that one and done trip?

[E]

That is one and done. We never saw these people. I'm wondering, I am wondering, do they know? Did they find out? Is this a part of it? So I have shoved this so far in my brain it's going back in its little pocket.

[B]

They were probably boring, to be honest.

[A]

When you're on a tubing trip, everyone's pretty hammered. If you know you're bringing it up, it's not like top discretion time. I think you'd be like, oh, fuck, there's poop.

[B]

But then it's easy to be like, yeah, what?

[A]

Yeah, where'd it come from where?

[B]

It could come from anything. And even if it's on you, you're

[E]

like, it got on me.

[A]

Yeah, there's more on me. It's coming out of my butt.

[E]

Oh, my God.

[A]

So weird. It's got hit me.

[E]

No, I would not own that. If someone said there was poop, I'd be like, oh, my God, poop? Where?

[A]

Gross. We should kill whoever did this

[B]

again, like, best case scenario for this. Really?

[A]

Yeah. You kind of got lucky. Of all the places, I got away with it.

[E]

That's for sure.

[A]

Rachel, we hear a lot of these stories and you should tell people this. This is fine. People are not going to judge you or think you're gross. It's kind of an adorable story.

[B]

You'd be surprised how many people have dealt with that. This?

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

About 90%.

[B]

Yeah. I'm going to say 99.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

I can't be the only person who's pooped themselves on a lazy river.

[B]

No, that river was full of other people.

[A]

Yeah, I think I've gone. But intentionally, you know.

[B]

Yeah, people are doing it intentionally.

[E]

People aren't intentional.

[A]

They're terrible. Well, it's lovely meeting you.

[E]

Thank you guys. I appreciate it. And I just want to say quick, give a shout out to my friend Michelle for letting me borrow her Internet in her closet today.

[A]

Oh, thanks, Michelle.

[B]

Thanks, Michelle.

[E]

And Monica, just a special shout out to you for all of your big sis energy and helping me get through my 30s. I really appreciate it. So kind and so sweet.

[B]

Oh, that is really nice. Thank you so much.

[D]

Of course. Here's Cara.

[B]

Cara the hotel Kara or Cara. Oh, I think I was at Cara the hotel the other day. A couple armchairs came up.

[F]

Hello.

[A]

Is it Cara or Cara? Cara, Right?

[F]

It's Cara.

[B]

Cara.

[C]

Rob was right.

[A]

Wabi Wa was right, Monica.

[F]

I am a real follower to the most pain. So it just kills me that I couldn't make a fort because I'm at work.

[B]

You don't have to. You sound great. I need you to release yourself of that.

[A]

And I immediately need to talk about the little kind of anime cartoon you see on the wall.

[F]

I think this is Mira from the Demon K Pop. Yes. I'm a children's therapist and so I have lots of crafty things.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

Good for you.

[A]

It does look fun and inviting already. And then what's over your left shoulder on the wall?

[F]

It's like a collage of raccoons dancing.

[A]

Oh, very playful raccoons. Can you tell us what part of the country you're in.

[F]

Yeah, I am in Seattle.

[A]

Ooh. Okay. Wonderful. Okay. So you have an unauthorized evac story for us?

[F]

Sure do. Oh, we're so it is in the Princess Louisa Inlet in Canada at a camp. Are we familiar with Young Life at all?

[A]

No. And I also need to know, is that on the west coast or the East Coast? West Coast.

[F]

West Coast.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Up by BC Is Young Life, like the religious camp?

[F]

Yes.

[A]

Okay, Tell me more. I don't know about it.

[F]

It's a evangelical nonprofit that's a lot about taking kids who aren't Christians and trying to take them to these camps where they have these, like, spiritual experiences. And then they're like, I want to be a Christian now. I was a camper, and I was leader and a staff member.

[A]

Wow.

[F]

And now I am none of those things.

[A]

Sure, sure, sure.

[B]

Your life has taken a lot of turns.

[F]

Yes. The emo teen to Young Life staff to therapist pipeline is crazy.

[A]

And were your parents involved with that or did you initiate your involvement?

[F]

I grew up in the church. I mean, at the time, it was a great community. It really, I think, served a lot of purposes that I can still hold on to. And one of them was that, like, I had some really great times at camp. And this is where that camp was. It's called Mal, but it's not anything like Malibu, California, except that it is really beautiful. And this camp, you take one ferry and then you drive for a while, and then you take this boat that just has campers on it. It's a three hour, very slow boat ride to this, like, secluded camp that used to be where celebrities would go. They used to have, like, pictures of celebrities on the wall. But it's this beautiful camp that just shows up out of nowhere where there's an outer dock that you get dropped off at, and then there's like, a half a mile walk into camp.

[A]

Wow.

[F]

It's Christian summer camp where there's lots of activities. It's kids that do young life all over the world that will come to this. You're also there with just a lot of different people, not just people from your area.

[A]

This sounds so fun. If we could take up the scripture, I would be in.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Honestly, they do camp wonderfully, and it was a blast. And one of the activities that we do as a kid camp in the evening, we sing songs and they talk about Jesus and all that. And then we go back to our cabins and we do cabin time. I went to camp with some girls that I went to high school with, and at cabin time, it's like, what did you hear the speaker talk about? And you've been doing camp activities all day, and so you're super hungry and super tired by the time this cabin time comes.

[A]

It's for reflection. It sounds like.

[F]

Yeah, a lot of tears, a lot of. I've made out with boys. I shouldn't do that. I'm so sorry. It's also fantastic food. So we have, like, a lot of camp food, but at cabin time, we had a bunch of snacks, and one of those snacks was fiber one bars.

[A]

Oh.

[F]

I didn't have that reaction because I didn't know what they did. I just finished my sophomore year of high school, so this was in 2011. I was really hungry, so I had three of them because I didn't know what fiber did.

[A]

That was me and space cake in Amsterdam. I was like, it's just delicious. I didn't anticipate.

[F]

So I had the fiber one bars. We had the next day of camp, and our cabin activity for the day was going on a Caribbean ride. The inner tubes that go behind boats. That's, like, shaped like a banana, but, like, in a hot dog bun sort of. You, like, sit on the banana, put your feet on the hot dog bun.

[B]

Oh, cool.

[A]

You've seen those, right? And, like, five or six people can ride on it. They're pretty long.

[F]

Yeah. The videos make it look really easy to stay on them. I was very disappointed by the amount of time I spent trying to get on that thing to the amount of time actually on it. So we did that for a few hours. That's not true. That was really dramatic. We made. He did it for, like, an hour.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I also love the irony and the phallic nature of all the young Christian girls riding this humongous yellow dick around the water for an hour.

[F]

The horniness camp is crazy.

[A]

In reflection, it's like I had impure thoughts on the banana today.

[F]

They set you up for it, and then they're like, how dare you?

[B]

Yeah. Oh.

[F]

So something about my swimsuit to know is I was wearing spandex shorts in case something were to come off. So I just tried to keep myself secure. It's always on the last run, as we know. And so this was the last run before going back in, and we took a turn. Everyone falls off, and we all had helmets on. And I hear, like, a thunk. And then I fall in the water, and water shoots right up my butt.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[F]

Like a hose, just straight up. And then my fiber one bar poops come.

[B]

Oh, no.

[F]

So you Know like minestrone soup.

[A]

Uh huh, sure.

[F]

So if you were to like dump that out into like a tub. Already has water in it.

[A]

Oh no.

[F]

But then you like sit in the tub with it.

[B]

This is horrible.

[A]

Had your spandex shorts come off or just somehow the water passed through the spandex shorts and all the shit come out the pant legs or who knows?

[F]

It had to because there was some stuck in my shorts. But it had also all come out and I'm just seeing it floating around me.

[B]

This is horrifying.

[F]

Yes. And I'm like, can my cabin mate see it? And we're in an inlet and so I'm kind of pushing things around, making sure people don't notice. At this point my brain is just like, oh my God, that's my poop. And then I don't remember how we got back to the dock. Did I get back on the creek bait? Did I get in the boat? I don't remember. But it dropped us back off at the outer dock. So I had to walk the half mile back to camp.

[A]

Ooh, a half mile in wet spandex.

[F]

Wet poopy spandex, no shoes. And it's like a trail. The walk that you do when you're kind of like flexing.

[B]

God.

[A]

Because you thought you had to do more.

[F]

Oh yeah, there was definitely more.

[A]

Okay, so you're feeling pressure for another round?

[F]

Yes. I was like, we are not done.

[A]

Yeah. And there's maybe some sea water up in there too.

[F]

Oh yes, a lot. That needs to come back out. Put my towel tied around me. Left my cabin mates. I was like, bye, I don't care. And I just like did this clenched butt cheek waddle all the way back and also could still feel dripping on my legs and chunkies like on my feet.

[B]

This is awful.

[F]

And I'm a 15 year old girl. I'm like, I wanna die.

[B]

And there are boys there.

[A]

Are there boys there?

[F]

Yes.

[A]

Oh no. I somehow thought it was just all girls.

[F]

Boys were very attractive. Instead of going back to my cabin and I had this whole half mile walk to plan, I went to the bathroom. That's single person. You lock the door and people have to like knock to come in, you know. And I strip off my swimsuit and throw it in the sink and I sit naked and wet on the toilet and just like keep pooping poop until it's done. I'm taking toilet paper and like trying to like dry off and so then I have like that soggy toilet paper everywhere. I'm finally Done pooping. There's no poop on my body. I go and I rinse out my swimsuit in the sink. I don't want to put my, like poopy towel around me and I also don't want to walk in just the towel back to my cabin. So I put my wet swimsuit back on. That's still like a little bit poopy, but rinsed off, go to my cabin, get ready to shower. And then the girls go, we should just go to the pool now. And so I was like, yeah, you're right.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[F]

I was like, I think what would be better than taking a shower is the chlorine would just kill all the bacteria. So I just decided with my 15 year old logic to jump in the pool to clean off.

[A]

Well, in your defense, that was before they hung the signs up that said, if you have active diarrhea, do not swim are now ever present. But we didn't know then. It was a simpler time.

[F]

That's right. Now the girls who went to the camp with me will need to fact check me. But I talked to one of my friends who went with us last night, and I was like, was it me? And I'm pretty sure that the thunk that I heard when I fell off, I thought it was someone else's helmet, but it ended up being Gabby's nose.

[A]

What?

[F]

My friend remembers that she was on the Caribbe with us, that she broke her nose that ride. And Gabby was sitting behind me.

[B]

Okay?

[F]

So I think that's why no one really noticed that I was having my poopy incident. Because when Gabby fell off, she broke her nose.

[A]

Thank God for her broken nose.

[B]

Gabby.

[A]

But also, percentage wise, there's six passengers. One broke their nose and one shit their pants.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

You know, I feel like a waiver needed to be signed.

[B]

Maybe other things happened too that we don't know about.

[F]

And my friend who is on it with us, she also hurt her hip really bad the same ride.

[E]

This is disaster.

[F]

Yeah, you sign so many liability waivers when you go.

[A]

Not that you guys care, but I think what the problem with those big floating bananas is, they're underinflated a lot. So it's like when one kid moves it, shoves Aaron back, and then, you know, it's just a wild ride. Such a heartwarming story. It sounds like it could be in Meatballs the Camp Movie or Wet Hot American Summer. It's got that joyful patina.

[B]

It does.

[A]

It makes me nostalgic for a camp I never even went to.

[F]

I was looking at pictures of when I was at the. The camp and I was trying to have compassion for 15 year old me, but she was a horny, struggling. Oh, my gosh. I was like taking pictures with these hot boys and posting them on Facebook and I'm like, they don't even know who I am. This is crazy.

[B]

It's just so hard to be a person.

[A]

Did you ever have any hookups at this Christian camp?

[F]

No. I wish.

[A]

But there were hookups happening, right?

[F]

Oh, yeah. Because I also, like, went as a leader and a staff member and there was kids getting in trouble all the time for having sex.

[A]

Yeah. Well, you got to tell people, leave room for Jesus between you. Right. When they're dancing those dances.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then leave room for the Lord.

[B]

They're not really having sex. They're soaking and that doesn't count.

[A]

I think that's specifically.

[F]

That's Mormon.

[B]

Well, no, I have a friend who was not Mormon.

[A]

She did some soaking.

[B]

She hadn't had sex yet. And then she's like. But he put it in. I was like, wait, that counts.

[A]

Very liberal definition.

[B]

Exactly. She was very religious. And so you find your ways.

[A]

The anal one's always a fun worker. That's a fun workaround.

[F]

Yeah. Why don't you just.

[A]

Well, thanks for doing the Lord's work and working with children. Yeah. I feel like you're the perfect person for this.

[F]

I appreciate it.

[A]

This is delightful.

[B]

Have a great rest of your day.

[F]

You too. Take care.

[A]

All right, bye. Bye.

[B]

I just feel like if I was surrounded by minestrone soup, I would panic.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I would probably do something really, like evil. Yeah. Like who did this? You know, I'd start blaming.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blame the girl with the broken nose.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. Oh, she broke her nose and evacuated everywhere.

[A]

Gross.

[B]

Shit everywhere. Because her nose broke. Just let loose.

[A]

She's disgusting. That one reminded me of my mom's story of somehow they hung out with friends in Florida when my mom and dad were married and they were young and they had a boat. They took them water skiing, but there were alligators where they were water skiing. And so my mom was like in the process of trying to get up, and she couldn't get all the way up, but she refused to let go of the rope because she was so afraid to be in there with alligators that she just drug behind the boat for an incredibly long time. And it gave her a huge enema. And she had the same situation.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Happens to the best of us.

[E]

Sure does.

[A]

Always a blessing.

[E]

It is.

[A]

All right. Love you.

[D]

Do you want to sing a tune or something? We know a theme song.

[A]

Oh, okay, great. We don't have a theme song for this new show, so here I go, go, go. We're gonna ask some random questions, and with the help of Jerry's will get some suggestions on the fly rhyme, dish. On the fire rhyme, dish. Enjoy.