Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Guest: Chris Stapleton
Release Date: January 19, 2026
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Episode Overview

In this engaging and insightful episode, Dax Shepard and Monica Padman sit down with Grammy-winning country singer-songwriter Chris Stapleton at his barn in Nashville. The conversation traverses Chris’s blue-collar Kentucky upbringing, his early career as a behind-the-scenes songwriter, and the personal philosophies that guide both his artistry and his life as a family man. The hosts and Chris delve into topics ranging from the quirky realities of the Nashville music industry to family, fame, personal insecurities, and the nature of creative drive.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Childhood, Family Background, and Early Life (08:00–18:00)

• Roots in Kentucky: Chris is from a tiny town, Staffordsville, Kentucky. His father was a coal miner and small business owner who also had an engineering degree, and his mother worked for the health department.
• Family Dynamics: Chris discusses the influence of his hardworking, stern father and describes himself as the "middle child" between an older brother (Herbert, an FBI retiree) and a much younger sister. Dax and Monica riff on “little brother energy” and the social skills it imparts.
• Academic & Athletic Life: Chris was valedictorian (“There were two of us,” 17:30) and also a football player, admitting a love for the sport’s organized aggression.

"I think it's okay to have parts. Football games are an organized street fight, you know, where you get some aggression out between the whistles." – Chris Stapleton (18:54)

2. Path to Nashville & Becoming a Songwriter (21:00–35:00)

• Moving through Colleges: Chris began at Vanderbilt (biomedical engineering), hated it, switched majors, then transferred to University of Kentucky for business before dropping out.
• Meeting Industry Insiders: His big break came through a chance introduction to Steve Leslie, a salaried songwriter. Chris bombed some money from his uncle, moved to Nashville, and landed a publishing deal at Seagale within a week—a rare, nearly overnight success (25:53).

"I had a publishing deal in seven days, which is not anybody's story, but that's mine." – Chris Stapleton (25:53)

• Nashville’s Unique Writing Culture: There’s a collaborative spirit; often songs written with other writers/star musicians get picked up and recorded by major country stars without Chris even meeting the artist (30:27).

3. Dynamics of Songwriting, Creativity, & Ego (35:00–44:00)

• Co-Writing Protocol & Humility: Chris prefers to “show up and assess what I can contribute,” highlighting a low-ego approach to co-writing.
• Not Chasing the Spotlight: Despite being known as a frontman now, Chris never planned to be one; he relished the role of a Nashville “songwriter behind the scenes.”
• Blind Spots & Perfectionism: He describes himself as overthinking, averse to deadlines, and admits to struggling with mistakes and being “thoughtful” (meticulous) to a fault.
• Control Issues: There’s comfort in the creative solitude of songwriting, which Monica observes as a form of control.

"There's some safety in the space of a song because I'm not having to explain it to anybody. ... I can make this thing, and you can take it, and it can be yours." – Chris Stapleton (43:43)

4. Family, Fatherhood, and Loss (24:00–25:00; 51:00–52:00)

• Father’s Influence and Passing: Chris’s first album Traveler was written as a record his late father would have liked. He reflects on his father’s missed witnessing of his solo success.
• Balancing Career and Five Kids: Silence is rare and golden in his house, often marked by chaos.

5. Music Philosophy: The Magic and Universality of Songs (46:00–50:00)

• Universal Appeal: Dax and Monica note that Chris reaches fans across divides: “You unify, you span the gambit. ... That is very rare.” (46:11)
• On Emotional Connection: Dax praises Chris for allowing men, in particular, to feel and emote through his music.
• Music’s Unique Power: Chris calls music a unifier and “magic”—a way for people to feel less alone, find connection and community, even if only with a song.

"The magic of music is it helps us all be connected in ways that even a conversation or a look or a touch doesn't provide." – Chris Stapleton (49:14)

6. Fame, Anxiety, and Handling Success (58:00–70:00)

• Reluctant Celebrity: Chris is uncomfortable with fame’s invasiveness (e.g., people showing up at his house), but accepts it as part of the job.
• The Timberlake CMA Performance (58:11–65:30): The key turning point in his career, resulting from a genuine personal connection with Justin Timberlake and a “favor” phone call, culminating in an unforgettable 8.5-minute TV moment.

7. Process and Legacy—The Search for New Fuel (85:17–88:08)

• Contentment, Burnout, and Next Steps: Chris confides he’s not currently driven to make another record or tour, reflecting on balancing career, creativity, and family life.
• Searching for New Dreams: Having already surpassed his early goals, he’s thoughtfully considering what’s next.

"I want to make a thoughtful decision about what I do with the rest of the time that I have on the Earth. ... I’ve done more than I ever set out to do." – Chris Stapleton (86:12)

8. Miscellaneous Memorable Bits

• Guitar Collecting & Addict Scale: Chris admits his guitar collecting is obsessive (“if you want to call that an addiction, then I’m probably a 25,” 55:01).
• Knives and Superstitions: Stapleton carries pocket knives for comfort and keeps his childhood chair as a habitual relic for studio sessions.
• Beard as Emotional Armor: He jokes about his beard being both physical and emotional protection (66:59).
• Process vs. Results: Both Dax and Chris agree the joy is in the creative process, not the fleeting moment of success.

Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• "I look for silence a lot. With five kids, silence is golden." – Chris Stapleton (07:14)
• "My dad, at some points in my life had to go to Cincinnati to work. The business got so bad ... He shut down." – Chris Stapleton (08:54)
• "I would have played football over playing music." – Chris Stapleton (19:01)
• "I had a publishing deal in seven days, which is not anybody's story, but that's mine." – Chris Stapleton (25:53)
• "There’s some safety in the space of a song because I’m not having to explain it to anybody." – Chris Stapleton (43:43)
• "Half of life, or at least the way I have gotten to live is showing up. Must be present to win." – Chris Stapleton (38:43)
• "Music is meant to unify us, though. The magic of music is it helps us all be connected..." – Chris Stapleton (49:14)
• "[After Timberlake CMAs] We had some shows booked ... they were gone. Like that." – Chris Stapleton (64:41)
• "I want to make a thoughtful decision about what I do with the rest of the time that I have on the Earth. ... I’ve done more than I ever set out to do." – Chris Stapleton (86:12)

Memorable Moments & Stories

• Stapleton’s One Guitar Lesson: Took one lesson as a kid. The teacher quit teaching the next day (19:47).
• Band Firing: Reveals he was technically kicked out of The SteelDrivers, dispelling myths (39:41).
• The Beard Incident: His beard once saved him during a grill explosion (67:09).
• Eight-Minute CMA Slot: Lobbied for unprecedented TV time for the Timberlake performance (62:41).
• On Luck vs. Talent: Chris insists 90% of the business is luck and timing, despite personal skill (71:28).

Important Segment Timestamps

• Chris on Growing Up in Kentucky: 08:00–18:00
• Publishing Deal in Nashville: 25:00–27:08
• First Brush with Fame & Father’s Death: 24:00–25:00
• Songwriting Mechanics & Ego: 35:00–40:00
• Tennessee Whiskey & Timberlake CMA Performance: 58:11–65:30
• Stages, Rituals, and Superstitions: 78:00–80:00
• Contemplating a New Direction: 85:17–88:08

Tone & Style

The conversation is relaxed, honest, and occasionally self-effacing, typical of Armchair Expert’s blend of humor and emotional candor. Chris Stapleton comes across as humble, thoughtful, and deeply intentional, often redirecting attention to the communal aspect of music making and resisting the “star” narrative.

Final Thoughts

Chris Stapleton’s episode is a heartfelt exploration of creative life and personal grounding amid fame. Listeners will be drawn in by his humility, his storytelling, and his deep respect for both the music craft and the people around him. The episode offers a treasure trove of wisdom for creatives as well as touching moments that humanize a musical giant.