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Dax Shepard
Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert. I'm Dan Shepard. I'm joined by Monica Mouse.
Monica Padman
Hi there.
Dax Shepard
Today we have 12 time returning guest Ike Barinholtz. Now an award winning actor and comedian the studio the Mindy project Blockers, Neighbors, Running Point. And he has a new podcast out now that I have been on. I'm proud to say I hadn't been at the time of this interview and I have since. Yes, it's called funny. You ask and I'm telling you it is a blast. You do trivia and you shoot the shit.
Monica Padman
We do a little trivia in this episode and I want to just. I did not represent my people well, okay? Any of my people. Indian people, American people, women
Dax Shepard
under 40s.
Monica Padman
Humans really. I did a bad job and I'm sorry.
Dax Shepard
Mermaids. Bad look for mermaids. It really was came out of nowhere. In your defense, you were prepped.
Monica Padman
No, I'm just bad at trivia.
Dax Shepard
That's fine. What does it get you?
Monica Padman
If anyone wants to like give me lessons. Trivia lessons. Dm me.
Dax Shepard
Oh, I bet you're gonna get actually a lot of offers. Men love teaching women things.
Monica Padman
Oh, God, you're right.
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Ike Barinholtz
He's an object.
Dax Shepard
Chance.
Ike Barinholtz
Oh.
Monica Padman
Welcome back to our most returning guest.
Ike Barinholtz
Am I number one now?
Monica Padman
No, you're not.
Ike Barinholtz
Oh, I'm not. Who's gonna be. Who's it gonna be? Like Andrew Huberman's been on 17 times or some shit.
Dax Shepard
We've only had one Huberman appearance.
Ike Barinholtz
I was told I'm the first double video.
Dax Shepard
That sounds accurate.
Ike Barinholtz
Double penetration, double penny. That double. We're starting off right away right in that.
Dax Shepard
The blue.
Ike Barinholtz
Never work blue.
Dax Shepard
Funny, that's rule number one. Never wear, never work blue. It has been virtually a year on the dot, really, since your last appearance.
Ike Barinholtz
Makes sense.
Dax Shepard
It feels like a checkup, like a physical.
Monica Padman
Boy.
Dax Shepard
And then it got me wondering. How on top of that are you? Because I'm going to have my physical next week and I have a colonoscopy Monday, so I'm writing rows of lots of health scheduling.
Ike Barinholtz
I had my physical Monday.
Dax Shepard
You did? I did. Okay, great. A fasting physical or you got to just arrive.
Ike Barinholtz
I can't have anything but water in the morning, which is so hard.
Dax Shepard
And coffee, black coffee.
Ike Barinholtz
You can have black coffee. But I need like half and half. I'm such a basic little. I need my half and half. And that one morning I was like. I was like in a bad mood for like 45 minutes, but it was good. He's A great doctor. He checks my prostate for like an hour. Oh, it's like a full extended remix.
Dax Shepard
He has his worries or that's for everyone.
Ike Barinholtz
I tell you, I don't know if I told you this the first time I had him check my prostate. I didn't know what to expect. Personally, there's not been a whole lot in that direction in that place.
Dax Shepard
Right. Historically, you put your own finger in your butt.
Ike Barinholtz
Not really. Never really.
Dax Shepard
You were like. I was a teenager and I was like masturbating. And I thought, I wonder if this, like I was just trying every single thing.
Ike Barinholtz
There was just some things that I
Monica Padman
was just like, I don't need to do that.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Monica Padman
Not interested.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Ike Barinholtz
No, it's a personal thing. And even as like a crazy, perverted Jewish teenager, I was like, nah, I'm
Dax Shepard
gonna skip that one.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah, I'll skip that one.
Dax Shepard
So suffice to say, you probably never ever had anything in your body, nothing
Ike Barinholtz
substantial for more than a few seconds.
Dax Shepard
Okay, okay.
Ike Barinholtz
Wasn't a feeling I was longing to return to.
Monica Padman
Sure, sure.
Ike Barinholtz
Maybe like one point, like a long time ago.
Dax Shepard
Okay. A little tipsy broad put a pinky up. Sure, sure. A little tipsy feeling.
Ike Barinholtz
Anyways, he gets in there with his friggin hand.
Monica Padman
Oh, boy.
Dax Shepard
Whoa.
Ike Barinholtz
Felt crazy. I was like, oh, it's done in two seconds. And I was so happy. Was done. He goes, oh, your prostate is perfect. Oh, he didn't do that.
Monica Padman
Oh my God.
Ike Barinholtz
That would have been disgusting had he done the chef's prosthetic fingers in his mouth immediately. But he handed me like a box of tissues. You can use that to wipe the lube out. And for reasons I'll never know, I went, I'm fine.
Dax Shepard
Oh, like, it was emasculating the white.
Ike Barinholtz
I wanted us to kind of move past.
Monica Padman
Yeah, you want it to be over.
Ike Barinholtz
And I didn't want to be like, thank you. So I was like, good. And he goes, okay. And. And then like the next 10 minutes, I'm just kind of like sloppy slopping, sliding around, getting all squishy on the table. So now I wipe it out.
Dax Shepard
You have to.
Ike Barinholtz
I'm going to drive home down Wil.
Dax Shepard
Just like, yeah, potentially bleeding through under the seat. It's no blood seeping. Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. Leeching, leeching, leeching.
Ike Barinholtz
I don't need that stuff leeching into my Lincoln. Anyways, I went on Monday. It. Everything was really good.
Dax Shepard
And he got in there again every time.
Ike Barinholtz
The colonoscopy is only every couple years. The prostate's Every year.
Dax Shepard
The digital exam. They sent you the colonoscopy.
Ike Barinholtz
Have you ever had one before?
Dax Shepard
Oh, yeah. I've had so many.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah, yeah. You have like one a week.
Dax Shepard
I used to, because in my family, I had on my mother's side an uncle that had a colostomy, and then my cousin that was my age had to have one in his 20s.
Ike Barinholtz
That is family history, babe.
Dax Shepard
So I was going from 18 every three years. I can't tell you how many. And then I finally saw one out here and he goes, it doesn't really generally move on the maternal side. Like, you don't need to get this many. So then I backed off for a while and now I'm back in a five year rotation.
Ike Barinholtz
Good. I will say I love the nap.
Monica Padman
Sure.
Ike Barinholtz
Michael Jackson nap.
Dax Shepard
I'm already rehearsing my charming pitch to them. Okay. Because first they give you Versed to relax you, but then they hit you with the propofol really quick.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dax Shepard
But that little window of Versed is all I get.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dax Shepard
And it's once every five years.
Ike Barinholtz
Tell me, you know, drop the first, then go make a phone call, get some coffee, come back, and then we'll do Propofol.
Dax Shepard
Exactly. And so I gotta roll that out in the least addicty, most charming way possible, where they don't think I'm a drug seeker, just getting this procedure to get that 30 seconds of Versed. So it's a fine line I'm walking.
Ike Barinholtz
The worst part, though, for me is the prep. The night before the sue prep, I drink it. It tastes like poison that has gone bad.
Dax Shepard
Like, it's a spoiler poison turned poison.
Ike Barinholtz
And it is, like, comical how quickly you go from, like, I'm on a zoom, everything's cool to, like, fudgeing Lloyd from Dumb and Dumber. Just. Yeah.
Dax Shepard
Torrential is the only adjective.
Ike Barinholtz
Monsoon season.
Dax Shepard
Yes.
Ike Barinholtz
In my bathroom.
Monica Padman
Are you going to weigh yourself before and after?
Dax Shepard
You know how neurotic I am about all this. And also, my procedure is kind of late on Monday. So that day I went and I'm like, I'm going to lose like five pounds probably. So the last couple of days, I've been eating ferociously, knowing we have this moment of scarcity coming, but I kind of knew it was coming, and this didn't occur to me until this morning. So Kristin hosts the SAG Awards on Sunday.
Ike Barinholtz
Yes, I'll be there.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Monica Padman
Of course, you will be doing a bit for us, which we are very, very grateful for.
Dax Shepard
So what we did last year was Like, I bring the kids up and we hang backstage, and it's really fun. We get to see mom. And so that's, of course, the plan again this year. And then just this morning, brushing my teeth, and I said, kristen, I said, you know, love, I'm going to be evacuating every 15, 20 minutes on Sunday. That's my prep day. Oh, I'm a little nervous about the logistics of me juggling two kids. You can in a public diaper.
Ike Barinholtz
You gotta diap up, baby, baby, you gotta dip.
Monica Padman
Smells so bad.
Dax Shepard
And it's a communal bathroom, you know, and it's all my heroes. And I'm gonna be in and out of there with full torrential sounds.
Ike Barinholtz
Dude, you're gonna be just blasting off next to Stellan Skarsgard. I love sentimental value. He wins this award, and he's like, I just want to say Dax Shepard gave the best of my paint job before the real suffering.
Dax Shepard
I knew Suff shared a bit.
Monica Padman
This really does need to be thought through.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah, you got to make a plan.
Dax Shepard
I can already predict what's going to happen. I know me and I know my history. So I'm going to load up at noon and start the process. And I know by four, I'm going to say, it's all done. We're safe to go. Kids in the car. We know this is going to happen,
Monica Padman
but we can't make the show about your poo.
Ike Barinholtz
You're going to be hugging Ted Danson and you're just going, I can't not
Dax Shepard
go to this for Kristen and not bring the kids. So this is going to happen. But I already know that I'm gonna be way too confident. By 4pm when I leave for the show, I'll be like, yeah, I had four hours of it. There's nothing left.
Ike Barinholtz
Start earlier. Start at nine.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, but will that up the whole.
Ike Barinholtz
Yes. What do I think?
Dax Shepard
My second dose, right as I'm walking into the theater, I just decide, like, fuck it, let's go all in. This is gonna be miserable. Let's go for it.
Ike Barinholtz
Oh, no.
Dax Shepard
But these are the weirdest things you can't really anticipate or plan for. It's like we had a bulletproof schedule, and now I'm go gonna be flushing out my whole lower gi.
Ike Barinholtz
My mistake, I learned, was the day after because I was so hungry, and I was like, I'm gonna treat myself. And I ordered from Rest in Peace. Son of a gun. One of my favorite restaurants.
Dax Shepard
Was that a sandwich?
Ike Barinholtz
It was like a New England seafood place, but they had, like, lobster rolls. Crazy. It was a John and Vinnie's, people. That is like taking a riding mower onto the autobahn, you know what I mean? Where I was just, like, not ready for what that rock. So that's a bummer. So eat light.
Dax Shepard
You know what's funn? Every time I do it, I get the craving for the exact same thing. It's McDonald's french fries. Oh, yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
Those are good.
Dax Shepard
Second I get in there, I'll be like, oh, I'm about a couple hours away from McDonald's.
Ike Barinholtz
That's a nice treat.
Dax Shepard
That's a nice treat.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah. Yeah, those are good.
Dax Shepard
Makes the whole thing almost worth it. Now back to your digital exam on your prostate. Yeah. You. Mine must go to the exact same place mine does. 100%. I think even maybe if you could count us down on three. What do you want to do the second he puts his finger in your butt and you count us down from three. Let's see if we get lucky.
Monica Padman
Three, two, one.
Dax Shepard
Kahn River.
Monica Padman
Oh, wow.
Dax Shepard
Damn. I thought for sure we'd get that.
Ike Barinholtz
Wow.
Dax Shepard
That. What did you say?
Ike Barinholtz
I'm sorry. Oh, no, no.
Dax Shepard
C O M E. Spray, buff, pump, pump, spray.
Ike Barinholtz
Moon river is a reference from Fletch.
Monica Padman
Oh.
Ike Barinholtz
Which I forgot.
Monica Padman
I was like, what the fuck?
Dax Shepard
But I knew he. And then. And then Doc, Using the whole fist up there.
Ike Barinholtz
Doc. Did you watch the Chevy documentary?
Dax Shepard
I did.
Ike Barinholtz
I started and I stopped.
Dax Shepard
You did?
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
Tell me why.
Ike Barinholtz
Because it was just bumming me out. Full disclosure. I had heard nothing but horrible stories about him for years. For guys like us, he was a big, big guy. National Lampoon's Vacation. I'm sorry. It's like, one of my favorite movies still to this day. It's so fucking great. Fletch is great. He was just really funny. And some people, like, I understand, they didn't connect with him. I get it. Because his air is just not for everyone.
Dax Shepard
Arrogant. That's kind of what he's playing up.
Ike Barinholtz
But I heard all these stories for years, and then I started watching, and I was like, I just want to have the memory.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
You know?
Monica Padman
Okay.
Dax Shepard
There are several different things that could have been the things that took you out of it. So. So that's why I'm curious. Is it that, like, here's a guy who is now doing small shows to support himself? Is it that it's a bummer? Is it how he's treating the interviewer?
Ike Barinholtz
Bummer.
Dax Shepard
I loved him. And then just got more and more depressed every time I heard stories of people who worked with him. Right. But I watched the doc and I ended up with, like, kind of a lot of compassion for him. I mean, he had a very fucked up childhood for sure.
Ike Barinholtz
And I will say, seems like he's a really good dad and husband now loves his family. Yeah, it's tough.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. Here's what gave me the compassion is I think there is a category of person who's an asshole and they don't give a fuck and they're not even questioning it. And then I think there are people that are assholes and they themselves are suffering greatly from it. There's no, yeah, fuck you, and I don't care. And there's no wreckage or bill to pay. But when I'm watching that, I'm like, yeah, he's deeply uncomfortable a lot of the time in his own skin. And he's got impulse shit. And he's probably ADHD and all these things. And he's an addict. I don't think the guy's winning. It's not like he's feeling great about being this asshole.
Ike Barinholtz
But I guess to me, he was winning for so long. I never get someone who had it and then just kind of through, I would say, misbehavior a little bit lost it. It's hard for me to really find the sympathy there. Like, I don't think he's a hateful man, but I just want to remember him talking to, like, Eugene Levy in Vacation. And that will be my memory of him. I don't need to see him old and feeble and, like, yelling like a woman who's, like, asking him questions.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, yeah, cranky. Did you make it to the part, though, where they go through his talk show that he did?
Ike Barinholtz
No, but I remember that talk show.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Ike Barinholtz
The Goldfish piano. It was one of the biggest bombs around, like, 1994 was talk show mania.
Dax Shepard
Sally Jesse had.
Ike Barinholtz
Sally Jesse had one. Arsenio Hall, Joan Rivers tried one. It was a bit wiser. Only Johnny Carson, everyone started one. And then Chevy was like the big blue chip. New Talk show for 94.
Dax Shepard
I can't remember the exact year.
Ike Barinholtz
He was completely unsuited for it.
Dax Shepard
So that's the part I would have liked for you to have seen. Because this guy is defined by his confidence. He just starts right away on Saturday Live. Like, when you see that early footage of him, it's crazy how much swag he had. Yeah, so much fucking swagger. And then he's playing the piano confidently. He's doing everything he's ridden on this superpower of confidence. And he gets on that stage and they show the footage and he already kind of knows it's not going to be great. And to see him having lost that entirely, you can feel it as you and I and you. Anyone, anyone as a performance. But on stage, to watch that dude have to go out there every night with zero confidence and just suffer through it until they kill it. He certainly took some on the chin along the way. He gave a lot. He gave way too much out.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dax Shepard
But he also suffered like a.
Ike Barinholtz
He suffered, but I suffered when I watched Nothing but Trouble, which was very bad movie. Folks, folks. It's not good.
Dax Shepard
The other dog I wanted to ask you about that I presume you watched is. Did you watch the Scorsese one that I like, inhaled?
Monica Padman
He's your guy.
Ike Barinholtz
He's the boy.
Dax Shepard
He's the guy.
Ike Barinholtz
All of his movies, anytime they're on tv, I'll watch all of them. He's the greatest. And the doc was amazing. I could have watched another three or four parts of it.
Dax Shepard
Okay. But now any sadness now I guess you run the risk of like, he was on the show and maybe he'll be back. So maybe you have some personal relationship with him.
Ike Barinholtz
He's a coaster. He's a close friend. I had breakfast with him this morning.
Dax Shepard
Is he. Who dropped you off?
Ike Barinholtz
He dropped me off.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Ike Barinholtz
He hangs out in LA and runs errands. He's great for airport pickup.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
I can be landing at LAX and right when they say turn your phone, I can text him. And wherever he's at in the city, he'll come and get me and the kids.
Dax Shepard
Robin.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah. He's got sadness in his life.
Dax Shepard
The things that I thought were really helpful is you just look at his career and the totality and you really ignore that. He had tons and tons of valleys and he had tons of back to the drawing boards. So that stuff is really encouraging, even in the doc. And he's be the first to admit it. If Leo doesn't come around and say, I want to work with you, don't know what's going to happen. He is not getting movies made and he is not getting people signing up at that moment in his career. And Leo takes him on a ride that is incredible. And he's a real savior at that moment.
Ike Barinholtz
Oh, yeah. Well, because he does Casino, which is bomb, but then he's so cool that then he makes like the Age of Innocence, which is like a complete departure from him. And then he does the Nick Cage movie, which again, totally crazy. Different movie.
Dax Shepard
It doesn't work financially.
Ike Barinholtz
Financially and stuff. Yes.
Dax Shepard
He owns it in the doc.
Ike Barinholtz
Leo, he definitely. Which makes me just love Leo.
Dax Shepard
As if you couldn't love the dude more.
Ike Barinholtz
I love that guy.
Dax Shepard
I like being reminded, yeah, you could be as talented as Martin Scorsese and then also the luck gods need to be on your side too. And then ultimately though, I will say, and this is super selfish, but he paid an enormous price to be as good as he was. He was so hyper focused and he ignored everything in his life. And all the wives will tell you that. He'll say it, the kids will say it yet. And for me, I was just watching it and I was like, I'm very sad with this. That's not the outcome I'm looking for. I guess I don't give a about being a genius.
Ike Barinholtz
Me personally, if it came down to my family, both the one I have here and the one in Vegas.
Monica Padman
Uhuh, sure.
Dax Shepard
And an Academy Award opportunity that made you ignore them for two years. Right.
Ike Barinholtz
I'm more of that guy where I'm just like, I'll work less. Whatever. He's not.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm grateful for us.
Ike Barinholtz
Hey, I'm very grateful. Grateful for that because of the work he gave us. But also there is something now about like seeing him with Francesca now and his daughter. And it feels like he is at peace now. He is connected to his family. I think their relationship is beautiful. I think she looks at herself as like a steward of his art.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
And also putting him. I don't know if you guys follow her on TikTok, but like the videos of her and him together are so, so adorable and wholesome.
Dax Shepard
Oh, I've never seen, I haven't seen it.
Ike Barinholtz
And so I had seen all that before the doc. Knowing where he's at now, that didn't hit me as much. I was just grateful. I was grateful he made it out of the 70s. Most of the great guys out of the 70s never made it out.
Dax Shepard
He spent a couple years inside doing coke with fucking aluminum foil on the windows.
Ike Barinholtz
A crazy man with coke and asthma condition and like going crazy. And so I'm just grateful that he made it out. Can you imagine if he didn't? We'd never had good fellas. Like it would be such a shitty world. So my takeaway was just like, I'm so happy for him. I know it sounds crazy for a guy that I worked with for like five hours one day, but my takeaway was he's a close friend. Him and Dave Stassen are my two closest.
Monica Padman
Ike you. Since we saw you have become a very winning man.
Ike Barinholtz
Hashtag winning.
Monica Padman
You've been winning. And how has it changed your personality?
Ike Barinholtz
I'm a dick.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
You know, on an interpersonal level. Now, I never had that before, but I'm very short, rude with my friends. Can we hurry this thing up, by the way?
Monica Padman
Yeah. I'm surprised we even came back, if I'm being honest.
Ike Barinholtz
Absolutely nothing has changed.
Monica Padman
But does it make you feel like, oh, I kind of want to keep chase. Like, now you're in this elite.
Ike Barinholtz
The funny thing is, for years you're like, I don't give a about award shows. Then you get nominated for one. You're like, I'm excited for this award.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
The only one that I actually won, I think, was the critics choice. But. But I remember I got nominated for an Emmy, and people who are well meaning and intentioned will say to you, like, you're for sure gonna win, right?
Dax Shepard
Oh, yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
Trust me. For sure. And then you start to be like, yeah, I'm gonna win.
Monica Padman
Yeah, I'm gonna win.
Ike Barinholtz
And then you start to craft little narratives in your head. You have people on your team, your friends, who are like, it's either you or Harrison Ford. And that's just what it's gonna be. And so I remember being not shocked, but being like, holy shit, I didn't win. Harris Ford and what the fuck? And being like, mad. And then the next day being so mad that I was ma.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
So I remember going into the critics choice being like, I'm not paying attention to this going in. This is wonderful. I'm honored, But I'm just like, I'm not going to allow myself to be caught being upset about it.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
Then I remember the second they call the category, I was like, oh, please, pick me. Pick me.
Monica Padman
Yes.
Ike Barinholtz
That's the honest truth, I think. And I think everyone feels that way, even if they say that.
Monica Padman
Yes, they do.
Dax Shepard
Had you written a speech that you were excited to deliver because you're a great writer and you're a live performer for the Emmys?
Ike Barinholtz
I did critics choice. I did not. Because I was just like, I'm not gonna win. I'm not gonna think about it. I'm not gonna put myself in that position again. So then I won. I was like, oh, fuck. So then I just was like, I love my wife. She loves me so much.
Dax Shepard
Please come up here.
Ike Barinholtz
Well, I did. When I got up there, the first thing I did Was just look in the crowd and locked eyes with Benicio. And I was like, nah, can't do that. Mustn't do that. It's too cool for me, man.
Monica Padman
Oh, cool.
Ike Barinholtz
Can't gaze upon him in general.
Dax Shepard
That show, the few I've been at with where it's at, it kind of sweeps. It's a insanely winning show.
Ike Barinholtz
I think it's won everything. It's been up for more or less crazy.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. So the vibe of all being together and going to the different things together.
Ike Barinholtz
Is this a party the most fun. Seth. He's the greatest guy. And Evan Goldberg is so fun. Katherine Hahn Chase. We wonders is the funniest. It's a great, great group and good people to be with at those things.
Dax Shepard
No. I want to ask this question. Is Dicey in that it may sound like I'm implying something. I'm not. I'm genuinely curious. You've been on a bunch of different things that have worked. I don't know what ratings are and stuff. Is America like, we are all the studio 100%. How does it compare to being on, like, Mindy or Running Point?
Ike Barinholtz
I don't know. I know that a lot of people come up who are not in the business. Like, I was just flying. We just flew to Canada, and the guy sitting in front of us was watching the studio, and I could kind of see it, and he stood up to go to the bathroom and looked at me and goes, I want you to know I was watching that before I saw you. I love when people not in the business love the show. Like, that is very cool. And I think they did a good job. Even though the show is no matter what about the business inside baseball, they do hit on themes that are pretty universal. Everyone's got, like, a boss who's annoying or they want credit for an idea. Like my friend Debbie, she's like, I want you to know my husband literally does not watch tv.
Dax Shepard
Tv.
Ike Barinholtz
He doesn't watch anything except Ohio State sports. He loves the studio. That's great. We're gonna like it because we know we've been in these situations. I think in this day and age, for a show to work, it either has to have huge ratings like Running Point or good ratings, slash great ratings. People love it. Critics love it. It wins awards. I imagine the studio kind of falls in that category where people watch it. It gets good numbers. But it's not like a Netflix like Running Point, which is like a big, big global.
Dax Shepard
Global. Kate Hudson global. It's global.
Ike Barinholtz
I'm a globalist but it's my favorite show to work. It's so fun. Everyone's so great. It's just wonderful people.
Dax Shepard
So you guys have already shot season two or you're in the process right now, my man. You're doing it right now?
Ike Barinholtz
We're doing it right now, literally.
Dax Shepard
And what is your work schedule like on that?
Ike Barinholtz
It's not light. We're able to break off a couple hours for this or that. For this. It is weird. It's not your typ show where it's like, okay, today is just Chase, and then tomorrow is all of us, and then it's just Seth. It's like, usually everyone's in every scene and the way they shoot it. I think there was a time where I got there and they were like, you actually don't think you're going to be in this? And I was like, okay. It's one of those shows where you just completely surrender to the schedule.
Dax Shepard
You're on call. You're like an ob.
Ike Barinholtz
I am. I've been doing some amateur ob.
Dax Shepard
You're kind of a hobbyist.
Ike Barinholtz
I'm more of a hobbyist enthusiast. Let's say OB1. Kenobi. Is that anything if your baby doctor's last name was Kenobi? My OBI is Kenobi. Oh, is that. Is that like. It's going to take a lot of riff on.
Dax Shepard
It's going to take a lot of setup. I'll just say that.
Ike Barinholtz
What if your last name was Kenobi? Yeah, you should probably go in Obsessed. Yeah, yeah. Like. Like, let's have some fucking fun, guys. Come on.
Dax Shepard
Okay, so you're doing that one right now. And then is Running Point in production?
Ike Barinholtz
Running Point is not a production, but we're starting to kind of get some ideas together for season three.
Dax Shepard
So you've already completed season two?
Ike Barinholtz
Season two is. It's what they call in the business in the can, baby.
Dax Shepard
Okay, nice.
Ike Barinholtz
Have you seen Song Song Glue, by the way?
Monica Padman
No. I've heard it.
Dax Shepard
I keep hearing it's great.
Ike Barinholtz
The movie's so good. Her performance, it's one of the best I've seen in so long. I was so happy for her because I remember her telling me about this movie. She's like, it's really fun. It's me and Hugh, and I knew the band that it's about.
Dax Shepard
You did?
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah, because they were in Chicago. People would be like, I was in Milwaukee last weekend. I saw this Neil diamond cover band, It's a Lady. And so I remember them. I remember Pearl Jam having Them open. That's in the movie. And then she told me about the movie and she's like. And I think she said, it's going to come out on Christmas Day. And I was like, Focus Features is putting a movie out on Christmas Day. They think it is really good. And I saw it, we went to the screening and like, months, months ago. It was so embarrassing how hard I was crying.
Dax Shepard
Oh, really?
Ike Barinholtz
It's emotional. And she is so great at it. I hope she wins the Oscar. She just kills it.
Dax Shepard
How much are you crying these days? You're approaching 50, right? You're around the corner.
Ike Barinholtz
No. What the fucking kind of question is that? I'm sorry, I'm way off.36. I gotta go, guys.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, I'm sure you're late to something.
Ike Barinholtz
I'm approaching.
Dax Shepard
You're 49, right?
Ike Barinholtz
49.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Ike Barinholtz
I just turned 49. I cry. Not maybe as much, but more violently and worse.
Dax Shepard
Oh, okay. So frequency is the same, but don't
Ike Barinholtz
maybe actually a little less. Yeah. Because before I was crying like, ab. Having fun watching tv. That's a nice commercial. Now I'm just stoic, stoic, stoic. And then life happens, or the external world happens, and I'll go into, like,
Dax Shepard
my closet and what are the triggers? Daddy daughter stuff. How do we do with daddy daughter stuff?
Ike Barinholtz
Daddy daughter stuff's not too bad. Only because I think my kids are a little younger than yours and they're still in the. We love dad and want to hang out.
Dax Shepard
But Interstellar, once I had a baby, it's like, oh, this guy's going to miss his daughter's life. I'm destroyed.
Ike Barinholtz
Yo, yo. I was in Italy for two and a half weeks, away from my family, and I'm flying back home. And I was like, man, I haven't watched Interstellar in a minute, so horrible idea.
Dax Shepard
And you just missed two and a half weeks of your family's life.
Ike Barinholtz
The scene when he walks in, he's like, oh, my gosh, it's my daughter Murph. I lost it on Alitalia. Like, Robert De Niro would analyze this. It. To me, it's more like we are at the age now where people are dying, where you have life catching up. You have friends with kids that get sick. That's the real. That's the stuff where you're crying. You don't feel silly about it, where you're like, I need to do this. And then there's just the random things. Like, I watched a clip the other day of. I want to say it was Maybe the Liverpool Football Club soccer match. Not gonna cry talking about it, but it was them and it was like
Dax Shepard
a scene with like, you're halfway there. Yeah. So give me everything.
Ike Barinholtz
It's like a. This sweet handicap kid and they show up at his school and they're like, who's a Liverpool fan? And he's like, I am. And they take him. They take him to the stadium and they meet every player and then they put him on the sidelines. And I was like, I'm an Arsenal fan, but, like, I might have to switch to Liverpool now. That was like eight. Oh, seven on the toilet sob. So. But it's still overall less than it was probably a year ago. A couple years ago. I don't know why. Maybe because I'm.
Dax Shepard
You're too busy. Maybe.
Ike Barinholtz
Maybe.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
Too busy to cry. It's the name of my.
Dax Shepard
Squeeze it in.
Monica Padman
Yeah. We have a theory that these older men, it's all burbled up their whole life and it's coming out all the time. Dax cries it every day.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah. Especially the older guys. Growing up in the 80s, if you cried in front of one of your buddies, it was like your whole family had a better.
Dax Shepard
Just been blown up in a car. Wasn't a thing.
Ike Barinholtz
There was a stigma to it. And then it started in the 90s, you started seeing, like, modern dads and now it is a good thing. Anyone who says it's bad, that's nonsense. It's good to see I can get it out. Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert if you dare.
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Ike Barinholtz
Well, you're very emotional. Like, I'm an emotional guy. I think you are more emotional than me.
Dax Shepard
That might be true, but I think it was very hidden.
Monica Padman
Well, you're sensitive.
Dax Shepard
I'm very sensitive. I bet I'm more sensitive than you. Yeah, yours are now what, 6, 8 and 12?
Ike Barinholtz
8, 10 and 12.
Dax Shepard
The 12 year old old. I have a 12 year old?
Ike Barinholtz
Yes.
Dax Shepard
Have we started to have any moments where they break your heart?
Ike Barinholtz
Oh, my God, yeah.
Dax Shepard
And were you prepared for it? And even though you'd been told about it, do you find yourself going like, wow, I'm so deeply hurt in this moment. And I know I'm not supposed to be.
Ike Barinholtz
For me, it's like small things. I try not to let it affect me. For instance, a couple weeks ago, I
Dax Shepard
love to cook five nights a week.
Ike Barinholtz
They say pretty much if I'm not shooting easy five nights a week, one night's burgers, one night, maybe we'll go get ramen or. Or something. But I cooked dinner so excited, made my daughter's favorite things. And at 4 o', clock, she was like, hey, I'm going to sleep at Lula's. And I was like, yeah, you should.
Dax Shepard
You should. Yeah. I'm so happy you have a good friend. Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
I would never be like, no, what the. I'm making cutlets and mashed potatoes. So there's moments like that once you get a little bit older, I feel like that's when it will really start to kind of hit more. I feel bad, like when they feel bad about something.
Monica Padman
Right.
Ike Barinholtz
That's like empathy kind of thing of like, oh, they're having a hard time with this. I get mad for my daughter when she has to do a ton of homework. Don't you remember as a kid being like the. Is this. Yeah. What a scam.
Dax Shepard
It's.
Ike Barinholtz
I go to school all day.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
Busting my ass. Meanwhile, I was not even then I gotta Come home and deal with this.
Dax Shepard
No.
Ike Barinholtz
And so I've always hated homework. And seeing them have to like hours of homework, I'm like, like, just let it be kids.
Dax Shepard
Have you had a Valentine's heartbreak yet?
Ike Barinholtz
No, not a Valentine. She has been perfect amount of healthy detachment when it comes to boys.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Ike Barinholtz
We're clearly like her and her girlfriends talk about. And some of her girls are boy crazy.
Dax Shepard
All of Timothy Shalam. Right? There's like some go tos, here's who they love.
Ike Barinholtz
Timothy is a big one. I get it.
Monica Padman
Yep, we all get it.
Ike Barinholtz
My oldest daughter loves Tyler the creator.
Monica Padman
Oh, great pick.
Ike Barinholtz
She just thinks he's so cool. She like wants to be his friend and then who else does she like? She had a huge crush on Anthony Davis. Played for the Lakers for years.
Dax Shepard
Oh, okay.
Ike Barinholtz
Who's like 7:14? She was like, he's so dreamy. Timmy and Tyler I'd say are the ones like. I saw Tyler at like cookbook.
Monica Padman
Oh, I know. He hangs out there.
Ike Barinholtz
He loves it. I blow up a spot. But you don't know which one. Don't say which one. When I told her that I saw him there, she was like, what?
Monica Padman
Yeah, he's cool. So she loves Marty Supreme.
Ike Barinholtz
Then we let her watch some of Marty supreme. But it's was stressing her out a little too much. She loves Dune. Loves the Dune.
Dax Shepard
I do too.
Ike Barinholtz
So do I. Really?
Dax Shepard
He's one of these classic guys where it's like I am predisposed to hate his guts because he's the opposite of me. He's super cute, speaks French, every girl loves him. I'm already mad at him.
Ike Barinholtz
He's too good.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
Did you guys see Marty Supreme?
Dax Shepard
Yes. He's unreal.
Ike Barinholtz
He's so good. I'm gonna just throw shade. I don't care. I really enjoyed the movie.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
He's so good. What the fuck is the guy from Shark Tank doing in there? He's the worst actor I've ever seen in my life. Wait, who the fucking guy.
Monica Padman
Who is he?
Dax Shepard
What bald guy?
Ike Barinholtz
He's, he's Gwennis husband.
Monica Padman
Oh yeah?
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah. Suck. And he's up there with Timmy who's acting his ass off. And that guy's like.
Dax Shepard
His eyes are also decided to recently go to with Phineas's sister, Billie Eilish. I think that guy has decided that
Ike Barinholtz
sounds like a good, sounds like a good idea for a 97 year old man to attack a 20 year old. But I was just like, I know it's cool. We put non actors in Movies. In Marty supreme, the guy who played his uncle is a journalist named Larry Slowman, who was amazing. Mr. Wonderful did not do it. His eyes move around too much. He doesn't have the smoke.
Dax Shepard
He doesn't have the smoke.
Ike Barinholtz
I said it. Let's go. I'm going to start off.
Dax Shepard
So dialed in. The last time you were here, you educated us on gooning, which was we knew nothing about.
Monica Padman
Oh, yeah, that was helpful.
Ike Barinholtz
Be getting deep into the goon community.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Ike Barinholtz
We call it the gc.
Dax Shepard
The gc. Have you been asked to host any of these award shows?
Ike Barinholtz
I am hosting the AVNs this year, the adult video.
Dax Shepard
Oh, great. In Vegas.
Ike Barinholtz
I'm going to Vegas for a couple weeks.
Dax Shepard
They pay pretty well, right? You're getting 12 grand.
Ike Barinholtz
That's like, I have to fly myself out there.
Dax Shepard
I'm paying for local hire.
Ike Barinholtz
Local hire. I said I'd be a local hire.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, of course. It's so close.
Ike Barinholtz
Why not just drive there? It's fine. I actually, what I'll do, they'll give me $100, type in for a flight, and I'll drive and use the money.
Dax Shepard
Okay. For your hotel.
Ike Barinholtz
No, they haven't.
Dax Shepard
Would you.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah, Yeah, I think so. I mean, you instantly think of the worst ones. But then you think of Nikki Glazer.
Monica Padman
She killed it.
Ike Barinholtz
So funny. Conan, he's so good. So it's like there's people who are good doing it recently that, you know, you could be good. Yeah. But you just think of some of the rough ones.
Dax Shepard
Oh, I had this thought about you today when I was re watching a lot of stuff. You're kind of fearless in that you'll take on a lot of stuff. You pivoted in the same way I did. Acting wasn't working. Started writing. Writing starts working really well. Now you're acting again, back and forth. And we're going to talk about your podcast. You're doing that. Do you ever feel a pull when you watch Chappelle and he tells a story that is woven together with so much great history that we're not aware of? For the most part, he's always exposing some rad part of history that we've made, missed. And then he lands this plane and you're like, God, that was so moving. Not that I think I'm Chappelle. I feel like I have the capacity to try to attempt to do a standup thing that has some kind of substantive, lasting message. Do you get that, Tug?
Ike Barinholtz
Oh, my God. I made a very conscious decision years ago because people ask me, like, Come and do stand up. And probably a lot richer if I had 10, 15, 20 years ago. The reason I didn't. It really does come down to laziness because if you do standup, at least at first, you got to do it a lot. Yeah, you got to do it a lot.
Dax Shepard
That's the most consistent thing all comics say is like 10 years in, you figure it out.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah. And I was just like, that's such a big amount of time. I also didn't want to put myself in a position where I had that avenue and I could call an agent, be like, see if you can book me a Tempe for like six shows in three nights because I'm broke or I need money. And then I'm on the road. It was really the notion of being on the road. And this is even before I had kids. I'm a homebody.
Monica Padman
It's a hard life.
Ike Barinholtz
It's a hard life. I was just like, I would rather try to make it work here. But when you see a great piece of stand. Because there's a lot of stand up.
Dax Shepard
Sure, sure, sure.
Ike Barinholtz
Created so many standups. They glutted the market. Now there's guys that are just like, they don't even do jokes. I don't even know what the they do. But when you see someone who is giving something that's like you said, substantial and the last off, you're like, that is so cool to walk out on stage by yourself, big crowd, and you're doing not just like dumb jokes and crowd work, but profoundly funny and deep thoughts. And people are cheering. You're like, you know what I would want to do one day? I did like a little thing on Broadway in December, like a short little stint for the show all out. It was so much fun. I had never done Broadway before and I really loved it. And I've always wanted to do one of the greatest. I guess I'll call it a standup special, but it's more like a one man show is Eddie Izzard did a show called Dress to Kill. This is probably in like 2000, and you can watch it probably on YouTube. And Eddie gets up there and it's like 90 minutes. Most of it is just like history. It's just talking about why British people are the way they are and Americans and the Reformation and takes you just kind of on a tour of western civilization from 1500 on. And it's so deeply funny and so smart.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
And to do something like that one day would be like something down the road. I remember Chelsea Peretti, who's one of the funniest standups around, posting a photo years ago of her on her couch, feet wrapped in a blanket, watching some dumb show. Could not look more comfortable. And she's like, I have to be on stage at the impromptu off in 12 minutes.
Monica Padman
I know.
Ike Barinholtz
Like, I got cold.
Monica Padman
I know.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah. So one day. Not today.
Dax Shepard
This is neither here nor there. What was Christmas this year? Because you had a great story of getting not recognized. Recognized at a bar, but you had 20 family members with you. And I just wanted to know if that repeats what was last Christmas.
Ike Barinholtz
It did not repeat itself. Christmas was more lowkey. But I was doing this show on Broadway right around Christmas, so I was in New York around them, which you make that face.
Monica Padman
Little hot chocolate.
Ike Barinholtz
But the reality of it is when you're working and almost like living in Times Square.
Monica Padman
Oh, it's disgusting.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
Christmas, you can't move, bro. You can't move. And not even, like, Time Square. I'm talking like 58th and 8th, 61st and 3rd. You're like, why are there 7,000 people at this walk sign? And then when you're going through Time Square, it's crazy. Around Christmas, it's just like guys dressed as the Grinch, chain smoking and, like, yelling at someone on, like, an earpiece. And we had to do a show the night of Santa Con. You know what Santa is?
Dax Shepard
What? Santa Con? Santa Con or Santa Santa Con? Oh, okay.
Ike Barinholtz
It's one of the most depraved.
Dax Shepard
I can't believe there's not a documentary about it. Just hearing the name.
Ike Barinholtz
There might be, and they might have been like, we can't air this. These people are too sick. This is like a week before Christmas on a Friday night or a Saturday night. All these people dress as Santa and they just wreak havoc around New York. They go on a big bar crawl. They get blind drunk. My friend Abby Jacobson was doing the show with me, and she took the train in from Brooklyn and she said she got off at our stop and she's walking up the stairs, and there are four guys dressed as Santa. All four of them are pissing against the wall. And Abby takes her earbuds out. She goes, you're fucking disgusting. But it is a gross. You just see, like, girls dressed as Santa falling down, like, face down in the gutter. Like, guys walking into pizzerias with, like, vomit all over their fucking sant.
Dax Shepard
Everyone's living now. Billy Bob Thornton's Bad Santa.
Ike Barinholtz
How good is Bad Santa?
Dax Shepard
Oh, it's the Greatest.
Ike Barinholtz
I'm a lunch break. And that kid's like, do you want me to sandwich? What's with you and the fucking sandwiches?
Dax Shepard
What's with you and the sandwiches, kid? I'm not your fucking dada. Oh, it's incredible. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
You like that bad, Santa? Do you?
Dax Shepard
Another quick question. Back to studio. You and Seth combine seem to have about the deepest kind of Hollywood knowledge of people I know. When we were at it was probably the Emmys, and Dan Gilroy won for Andor. And I was really confused because I thought. And this is where my knowledge extends. Tony Gilroy was the creator of Andor. I didn't know that. And I, like, looked over, and Seth happened to be looking at me at the perfect moment. And I said, does he have a brother? And Seth goes, there's three of them. And I'm like, of course he knows that.
Ike Barinholtz
All I remember at that Emmy's was sitting there, Seth is in the front row, and Erica, my wife, and I are right behind you. And I couldn't have been hungrier. So hungry. And Dax and Cable are sitting right across the aisle from us. And I turn and I look, and he's eating a fucking hot dog.
Dax Shepard
I have the full spread.
Ike Barinholtz
And I was like, how does he have access to a hot dog?
Dax Shepard
Oh, I went out in Gen pop into the lobby and stood in a long line and got any snack they had left. I went late, and they were mostly all gone. I was really in the market for some popcorn that was gone. So I just wanted anything they had left in the hot dog.
Ike Barinholtz
That was crazy. Erica's like, where did he get that?
Dax Shepard
I'm like, I don't know.
Ike Barinholtz
And I just lost this.
Monica Padman
I hate it here.
Dax Shepard
Podcasters.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
But Seth knows a lot of it. I know a lot.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. So when you guys are geeking out and getting esoteric on set, who goes deeper?
Ike Barinholtz
I would say, you're trying to be. I probably. If we were to play, like, the movie game.
Dax Shepard
Yes.
Ike Barinholtz
Do not play the movie game. Name any movie.
Dax Shepard
Breaking Away.
Ike Barinholtz
Breaking Away. And I would say Dennis Quaid. And then you would have to say a movie that Dennis Quaid was in.
Monica Padman
Parent Trap.
Ike Barinholtz
Parent Trap.
Dax Shepard
And I say, what?
Monica Padman
Lindsay?
Dax Shepard
And I can't say Dennis Quaid.
Ike Barinholtz
Let's say you. You couldn't get one. You would get a letter, and it's like, horse.
Dax Shepard
Oh, great.
Ike Barinholtz
If we were to play the movie game, I would probably beat him. Oh, okay. But it'd be a long game. He knows more. I think about, like, the technical of, like, oh, the lens has to be exactly that. You know what I mean? Like, no, that was shot on a Panasonic. He knows. I think the filmmaking stuff more. I probably know the trivia, more jeopardy.
Monica Padman
I mean, you're a champ.
Ike Barinholtz
What'd you say?
Dax Shepard
Champion.
Monica Padman
Excuse me.
Dax Shepard
Oh, my God, you brought your Jeopardy. Mug. That's great.
Ike Barinholtz
So weird that I grabbed that one.
Dax Shepard
Okay, last topic before your new podcast.
Ike Barinholtz
You said nude to podcast, right?
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
You're in a movie called Artificial.
Ike Barinholtz
Yes.
Dax Shepard
And you're playing Elon Musk.
Monica Padman
Big deal, Ike.
Ike Barinholtz
Well, I hope so. I haven't seen it. I'm nervous. But he's such a great director, that guy.
Monica Padman
Yes.
Dax Shepard
The last name again?
Ike Barinholtz
Guadal.
Monica Padman
We're talking challengers.
Ike Barinholtz
Movies are. And I'm like, zendaya, oh, my God, you lucky girl. My dream.
Monica Padman
Who's the Josh O Conor?
Ike Barinholtz
That would be Andrew Garfield. And then the other one is. You're a bor off. It's not like challengers at all.
Monica Padman
Oh, my God, I'm so excited.
Dax Shepard
But it's a story of OpenAI and Sam Altman.
Ike Barinholtz
It's the Open AI story. They tell it in a way only Luca can.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. So walk me through how you end up in that movie. What your fear level is, all that stuff.
Ike Barinholtz
I got a call. Call where they're like, hey, they're making this movie and would like to talk to you about Elon. And at first I was like, I'm not interested. I don't want anything to do with that guy. But then they were like, it's Luca Guadagnino, and I'm a huge fan of. I've been a fan for a very long time. I don't know if you've ever seen it. What's the movie with Tilda Swinton and Ray Fines and Dakota Johnson. I love that movie. I loved. I am love his. I think it was one of his first movies. He's just like a beautiful storyteller, real master. So I was like, let me talk to Luca and we'll see. And I talked him and he's so charming.
Dax Shepard
But let's back up before he woos you. Is your reservation. There's people you don't want to play or you're afraid you don't have the talent for it.
Ike Barinholtz
Spend my whole life I wanted to die and never have Elon Musk know my name. That was one of my goals in life. So I would have to forsake that. But then I met with him.
Dax Shepard
So it's just your detest for.
Ike Barinholtz
I just Think they're dangerous guys. You will live a probably more blessed life if you're not on their way.
Monica Padman
Nothing to do.
Ike Barinholtz
Okay, that's just how I feel. But I met with him and I told him my reservation and he was like, well, it's not about you. It's about you finding what makes him think he is human. Which I think is a very smart way. It's not about whether or not you think he is, it's about whether or not he thinks.
Monica Padman
Exactly.
Ike Barinholtz
Very smart.
Dax Shepard
Well, it's a very age old. You can't be judgmental of a character you're playing.
Ike Barinholtz
You can't be.
Dax Shepard
Or you can be and it'll be a pretty cartoon.
Ike Barinholtz
Then it would just be like mad TV where I'm like, okay, everything's like so woke. Like, what are we doing? But this is like a random real movie and it takes place not necessarily in this moment where everyone is at their max levels. It's encasing many, many years and all kinds of things. And it was a great script and just great actors. Do you know Yur? Have you seen Anora? You guys saw that guy? Like the ball guy?
Dax Shepard
Yeah, he's incredible.
Ike Barinholtz
He's like the main guy in it. He is like a monster. Is such a great actor.
Monica Padman
Oh, my God.
Ike Barinholtz
Sweetest, most unassuming guy. But when you're acting, I think those big Russian eyes in your face, you're like, okay, all right, what are we doing?
Dax Shepard
How do you start trying to be him?
Ike Barinholtz
Watch.
Dax Shepard
Watching YouTube.
Monica Padman
Did you read the Walter Isaacson book?
Ike Barinholtz
I read some of it. The book doesn't help as much as watching. It's just like injecting poison into my brain and watching everything I could find and especially from that period. So it was just a lot of watching stuff.
Dax Shepard
Do you start though doing the accent for your wife first?
Ike Barinholtz
Well, it's such a sexy accent. It's so hot. Yeah, maybe a little bit here and there. The good news is we had a whole week of rehearsal. Oh, okay. Which you don't get a lot anymore. And we went to Italy and he had us at his incredible villa, like an hour and a half outside of Turin, where he cooks for you.
Dax Shepard
Oh, my God.
Ike Barinholtz
It's so crazy. We got to really work on it, but. And they were all nice. Andrew Garfield. Love the guy. And Monica and you know, it was great. His cool Cooper Hoffman.
Dax Shepard
You got two Coopers in that film. Two Coopers, Yeah. You got two Coopers in that film.
Ike Barinholtz
Who's the other Cooper?
Dax Shepard
I'd have to look it up. But this morning, when I was looking at the cast list, I was like,
Ike Barinholtz
oh, duh, yeah, duh, duh. I got Cooper. Got Cooper coming up from the Ryan Murphy show. He played one of the brothers who killed his parents and kissed his brother.
Dax Shepard
Hey, how you gonna forget Cooper?
Ike Barinholtz
It's a New York guy who loves Ryan Murphy. Have you seen the new show with Ashton Kusher?
Dax Shepard
You've seen Beauty?
Monica Padman
Beauty.
Ike Barinholtz
Beauty. Fuck me. Fuck. You know, his great actors have fucking Evan Peters. That guy, that guy. Great.
Dax Shepard
The fucking effects on that show, you know, Ryan Murphy.
Ike Barinholtz
I don't know how this guy sleeps. He's got fucking beauty. He's got the fucking JFK show. When does he sleep? And he's also. He's very attentive to his husband and his kids.
Dax Shepard
All in. So great actors. It was fun. Was it fun?
Ike Barinholtz
So fun. Shot in Italy.
Dax Shepard
What part of Italy were you in?
Ike Barinholtz
We were up north in Torino.
Dax Shepard
Is that where the Olympics were? Just at Milan?
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah, they were like around that in Milan. Cordona, Bologna.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
Home of the Ducati factory, is my opinion. Best food in Italy. Bologna, because it's that whole Emilio Campania region. That's parmigiano, that's beef. That's barolo. That's the. Some nice boccaccio.
Dax Shepard
Pounding where you put it.
Ike Barinholtz
I had to work and play Elon that body, so I was like pounding pasta negroni.
Dax Shepard
It was great, man.
Ike Barinholtz
I loved it.
Monica Padman
What are your go to meals that you make since you're a cook? I. I just want to know personally.
Ike Barinholtz
The thing I make best are chicken cutlets.
Monica Padman
Chicken cutlets.
Ike Barinholtz
Like I make a chicken cutlet that rivals any schnitzel. Any South Jersey Italian deli.
Dax Shepard
It would kill you to invite me over for that.
Ike Barinholtz
Or.
Dax Shepard
I mean, you're just like, whenever you're having it, you just text me, you want to try this? And I cry. Cruise over.
Ike Barinholtz
It wouldn't just be you, it'd be Kristen.
Dax Shepard
I prefer it was just me. I would like a break.
Ike Barinholtz
My family would prefer.
Dax Shepard
Would be best for my family. If your whole family came, it'd be
Ike Barinholtz
strange if you came. But that's something that I really love. I'm obsessed with potatoes. I really, like, went crazy, I think starting during COVID I was like, I'm going to become a potato master.
Monica Padman
Really?
Dax Shepard
It's a great, great foundation for everything. Right? Every shape they come in is great.
Ike Barinholtz
You know what I love? You gotta get big rusted potatoes. Those are the best, you know? And you cut them into like fries, but then you roast them in A ton of olive oil and a little bit of like, beef fat. Oh, those things are like, yeah, I'm going to make that tomorrow night. Boom.
Dax Shepard
Okay. Okay. Again, you have my number. I'll swing by short. I bring my family. I don't see.
Ike Barinholtz
Let's just let. I'm setting it for nine, so. I also love going on Instagram and just seeing what home cooks are doing now. There's this guy named, like Giovani Syracusa I'm all about now, like, what can I do for exactly 45 minutes from like my first chop to my plate down? And he does a lot of very family friendly.
Dax Shepard
Fast.
Ike Barinholtz
Fast, but yummy. Healthy. I try to cook as healthy as I can at home.
Monica Padman
That beef tallow.
Ike Barinholtz
The beef tallow is, you know, I only put a little bit in, man. Every dumbass thing that people are like seed oils. Seed oil. You take a seed oil, you're dead instantly. Beef tallow. Beef tallow.
Dax Shepard
And it's like, listen, it's become political.
Ike Barinholtz
It's become political. And I like beef tallow. Like when I'm making steak and potatoes, I use a little beef tallow. I just saw an ad where they're like, now our chicken tenders fried and beef tallow. I'm like, no, I don't want my chicken to taste like beef. Yeah, just use peanut oil. I don't get it. It's like a political thing now. It's just dopey. I don't get it.
Dax Shepard
I don't get it. Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
What if I took off my hat and I just completely.
Dax Shepard
Because you're not having any beef download still on PRP up there.
Ike Barinholtz
Oh, yeah, still doing that not too long ago.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Ike Barinholtz
My boys.
Dax Shepard
You got on the gas.
Ike Barinholtz
Got on the gas. Little xing shing. Shing, shing.
Monica Padman
Right.
Dax Shepard
I should try that. I'm doing a topical in the morning and at night and my hair is so greasy and gross.
Ike Barinholtz
Gross. Do you have like the yellow patch on your bed? Cuz I put the drops in at night. And then one day my wife was like looking at our bed. She goes, oh, yeah. There's just like, like a discoloration. Exactly. Where I play wordle.
Dax Shepard
Where my head's.
Ike Barinholtz
And it's like so clearly leave my.
Dax Shepard
You're finasteride.
Ike Barinholtz
It's like coming to America when they all stand up and they have. I still get my work done a little bit on that.
Dax Shepard
Okay, now we're here to talk about. Funny you ask.
Ike Barinholtz
Funny you ask. Do you guys know what a podcast is? Do you have ever Heard of this.
Dax Shepard
We are familiar format.
Ike Barinholtz
I thought it was a good time to get it.
Dax Shepard
Yes, it is an ideal time.
Monica Padman
Many years after we asked you to get in, by the way, you came
Ike Barinholtz
to my house and we're like, give your do this. I just didn't have. Have the thing. I didn't know what it.
Dax Shepard
I have no resentment. I have no bitterness whatsoever. Nothing but rooting for you.
Monica Padman
If you win the Golden Globe, we will be upset.
Dax Shepard
He will.
Ike Barinholtz
That will be.
Monica Padman
Yeah, that's going to be tough.
Dax Shepard
How did the idea hit you this time? You're in the shower.
Ike Barinholtz
I'm in the shower. I'm. I'm cleaning my butt.
Monica Padman
Getting that finger up there.
Ike Barinholtz
I have a mirror, the ceiling of my bath and I lay on my back and kind of hoist my legs up so I can watch myself cleaning.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
It's about a half hour.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
And then the next day I thought of the. Yeah, no, I was talking to this guy. We had a mutual friend and we were just kind of chatting over lunch and I, as you know, I love trivia. I love my Jeopardy. My millionaire. I love all that stuff. And I was just like, I love when I find out someone knows something about something. Like when you find out someone is randomly like, oh, yeah, no, I'm a fan of that and I can kind of answer questions about it. I was like, oh, what if I could just talk to my funny friends, ask them questions. And then riff entered the riff zone.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
And so we kind of just did it.
Dax Shepard
I have so much intellectual vanity that it immediately gave me anxiety because you invited me on and not only did I say yes, I've even reached out to you. Like, when are we recording? That's not typical of a guest.
Ike Barinholtz
No, I'm pursuing your show, which I really appreciate. I want to tell everyone to assuage you, no one is going to walk out where they're like, I didn't get any. Anything right. I'm a. I have to commit sepu. I need a second to administer the death blow. That is not going to happen. I write my guest questions myself and I make sure that I'm not going to like, make anyone feel dumb.
Dax Shepard
But here's where I'm talking about the intellectual vanity and anxiety struck me is you're going to cement it logically in whatever my presumed expertise is. Right. Like minimally, probably what I majored in in in college. But if we make it about Anthro and I it up, this is something else. But if you ask me about biology or neuroscience and I shock you because that's not supposed to be. Do you know what I'm saying here? I shine better when I like. Oh, I wouldn't have thought he knew anything about that. But now we're talking about the thing I'm supposed to know something about. That's where it gets tricky for me.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah. Again, my goal of it is to like make it to the front first round of questions. You should know them.
Dax Shepard
They're softballs.
Ike Barinholtz
I want to say softballs but if you know something about it, you'll probably
Dax Shepard
hardball about 40 mile hour pitch a anus pitch.
Ike Barinholtz
It's very high but can be difficult to hit. But then as it gets on, especially as we get to the later speed rounds and stuff, there'll be some ones in there that it's going to stretch your brain a little bit.
Dax Shepard
Oh my God.
Monica Padman
So they're going to be points. Is it like a score?
Ike Barinholtz
The scoring system, it's completely arbitrary and I make it up every time and I, I'll give you a bonus point if you answer the question in a funny way. So there's no scoring, there's no winning, there's no losing.
Dax Shepard
But you will rank the guests at the end of the year. Who is the smartest?
Ike Barinholtz
That's the call. She betting market. I have nothing.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Ike Barinholtz
That is a joke by the way. I am not affiliated with Ki. I'm affiliated with Kashi.
Dax Shepard
Kashi.
Ike Barinholtz
The granola. The mus. Not the other one.
Dax Shepard
So you've done, you've had.
Ike Barinholtz
Who have I had? I've had Kimmel. I've had Kate Hudson. I've had Tiffany Hadish, Dave Franco and Mindy Kalin.
Dax Shepard
Okay, so what was Mindy's category? Was it television? Funny.
Ike Barinholtz
Mini's categories were fashion.
Dax Shepard
Fashion gray.
Monica Padman
Love it.
Ike Barinholtz
80s Boston Celtics. Oh, and Indian food.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. Cuz her father was a huge Celtics.
Ike Barinholtz
She like grew up going to Celtics games and Indian food. Which I'm a big Indian food guy. So I had a lot of fun writing those. The most fun for me is writing the questions. I'm living my fantasy of being a Jeopardy. Writer. The guests ask me questions but 0% do I see those? Those are written by my producer Annabelle.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Ike Barinholtz
She's. She keeps them separate from everyone. So I am 100% fully compartmentalized. Yes. Honor system.
Dax Shepard
I bet you're experiencing the same joy I have, which is our Wednesday guests are always experts on some generally academic topic that I have to brush up on in anticipation of their arrival. And so I love that part.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah. Especially if I have A guest who has an interest like Dave Franco. One of his was movies from the year 1999. Oh. Which 1999, a lot of people think was like the best year of movies.
Dax Shepard
Really? What do we have? We're making a point lately that the Academy Awards is less and less relevant because there's 50 movies. Only one of them would have made the top 10 in 99. If that. There we go.
Ike Barinholtz
Here we go. Can I read you a quick little list? Here we go.
Dax Shepard
Cute glasses, too.
Ike Barinholtz
Thank you. All right, you ready for this? Magnolia. Eyes Wide Shadow. The Matrix. The Sixth Sense.
Dax Shepard
Oh.
Ike Barinholtz
Office Space. Being John Malkovich.
Monica Padman
Oh, my God.
Ike Barinholtz
The Green Mile. Fight Club. Hold on, I'm trying to think of some other ones. American Beauty was on there. Oh, yeah.
Dax Shepard
What a year.
Ike Barinholtz
Think what else. It's crazy.
Dax Shepard
This is my point. There are more movies that are going to stand the test of time in that list than there have been in the last eight years.
Ike Barinholtz
Was also maybe more volume.
Dax Shepard
It's a volume. It's. I'm not critical of any single person, but it's a total volume game.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah, totally. But anyways, for that one, I was so excited, cuz I got to just watch Franco.
Dax Shepard
Is that like, what age was he at? Why is that the year for.
Ike Barinholtz
He was just a young guy and he worked in a video store in like the Bay Area.
Dax Shepard
He knows them all.
Ike Barinholtz
All of his friends were like watching American Pie and he's like, you need to see Bing. John Malkovich.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah.
Monica Padman
I feel like I have no exact expertise.
Dax Shepard
No. You could do cheerleading, you could do the Olympics. You could do fashion.
Monica Padman
96 Olympics. Gymnastics only.
Ike Barinholtz
That is Atlanta.
Monica Padman
That's Atlanta.
Ike Barinholtz
That's Atlanta.
Dax Shepard
That was in Atlanta at the time.
Monica Padman
Actually in Tennessee at the time.
Ike Barinholtz
Did you see Richard Jewell while you were there? Do you know who Richard Jewell is? Richard Jewell, you know, the bomber. Well, the man who was accused of being the bomber, who was not the bomber.
Monica Padman
Centennial Car.
Ike Barinholtz
They actually made a movie about it a few years ago that Clint directed. Okay, that is low key. Pretty great.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Ike Barinholtz
You know Paul Walter Hauser? Yeah.
Dax Shepard
Oh, yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
He plays Richard Jewel. He's so good in it, dude.
Dax Shepard
He's great in everything.
Ike Barinholtz
His lawyer is Rockwell.
Monica Padman
Oh.
Ike Barinholtz
I mean, there's always going to be some weird shit in Eastern movie. Yeah, but his performance. The feds done him dirty, man. He was just a nerdy guy and they were like, sketchy guy. Looks like he'd be a bomber.
Dax Shepard
He might be a bomber.
Ike Barinholtz
Pam is the FBI agent. He's like this guy Might be a
Dax Shepard
bummer based on the fact that he's. It looks like a dude in high school I didn't trust.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah, exactly. He looks like a guy I bullied in high school.
Dax Shepard
I used to push a lot.
Ike Barinholtz
Fun movie.
Dax Shepard
What was Kimmel's expertise?
Ike Barinholtz
Kimmel was pizza pie.
Monica Padman
Oh, yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
Classic 80s music.
Dax Shepard
Did you hit him with any Huey Lewis trivia?
Ike Barinholtz
I know he's such a Huey fan that I withheld.
Dax Shepard
He might be the number one Huey
Ike Barinholtz
le fan that there's not a Huey question you could ask him.
Dax Shepard
He would outdo huey in a.
Ike Barinholtz
A 100%.
Dax Shepard
Thousand percent. You see how I just accidentally came over, said you go 100%. A thousand percent. I'm just impulsively. It's like my.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah, what you said times 10.
Dax Shepard
To the 10th. Whatever. He. To the 10th.
Ike Barinholtz
He loves Marvel Comics. He was like a big Marvel Comics Kate.
Dax Shepard
I must know.
Ike Barinholtz
Kate was female singer songwriters.
Dax Shepard
Well, that's very on brand.
Ike Barinholtz
Very on brand. Cocktails.
Monica Padman
Oh, nice.
Ike Barinholtz
She loves a good cocktail. And then her other one was. Oh, well, she was. It was 90s movies, but kind of more the whole decade. I threw in a couple Kurt Russell questions for her.
Dax Shepard
Did she get them?
Ike Barinholtz
Oh, yeah.
Monica Padman
Cute. And what are yours gonna be?
Dax Shepard
Can you remember what I told you? I'm presuming. Yeah, yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
One was motorcycles, and then the third one.
Dax Shepard
I think I would prefer cars over motorcycles.
Ike Barinholtz
I think it was cars slash motors.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Ike Barinholtz
Anthropologies or evolution tractors. It's not gonna be tractors. I don't want to read about tractors for an hour.
Dax Shepard
Well, Lamborghini made tractors. I have a boner for some of these 60s Lamborghini tractors. They started as a tractor company.
Ike Barinholtz
They did, yes.
Dax Shepard
But the Lambo style is in a tractor. It's so cool. And there's train track ones.
Ike Barinholtz
The good thing about it is you love that car maker, but you have all those crops out there that have not been cut.
Dax Shepard
Exactly.
Ike Barinholtz
So two birds, one stone.
Dax Shepard
Yes, yes.
Ike Barinholtz
One expensive stone that you have to transfer here from another country.
Dax Shepard
I think this story. No, that might be Duke money.
Monica Padman
This is actually interesting. So you have to pick categories that also are going to be interesting to
Ike Barinholtz
an audience a little bit, and that will also inspire.
Dax Shepard
Are you saying we lost people on the Lamborghini tractor?
Ike Barinholtz
I mean, this is actually a pretty good Rift, so we should save it.
Dax Shepard
Maybe the government did come to. I think Lamborghini was like, we need
Ike Barinholtz
you to make the attractive, but the sexy.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. In a kind of. You can put a four wheels on. And that is an Automobile.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah, but you still can smoke a cigar. You've turned off. You're just like in another place right now. You're thinking about someone doing a floor routine in 1996.
Monica Padman
That's right. Dominique Moanu.
Ike Barinholtz
That's right. I remember.
Dax Shepard
Sure, sure. And then it's obviously leading. It's a jump off point.
Ike Barinholtz
It's a jump off point. Just so we can have fun. It's just fun to ask you. I brought questions.
Dax Shepard
Is that a pack of cigarettes or
Ike Barinholtz
a pack of Trivial Pursuit questions I brought?
Dax Shepard
Yeah, okay, read.
Ike Barinholtz
These are. I have not read these.
Monica Padman
I'm going to be zero points.
Ike Barinholtz
Oh, oh.
Dax Shepard
We're going to do to each other.
Ike Barinholtz
I don't know. I don't know.
Dax Shepard
Okay, so how do we play this game?
Ike Barinholtz
Just go around and we'll ask questions.
Dax Shepard
You have to go in order, top to bottom. Sure.
Ike Barinholtz
Or whatever you like. Whatever sickles you like.
Dax Shepard
Let's go top to bottom. So I don't want any like cherry picking.
Ike Barinholtz
What nation's Panol wetland is home to 270 bird species?
Dax Shepard
Okay, I have a guess. Argentina?
Ike Barinholtz
Close. Brazil. That's where you come to br. Ask me one.
Dax Shepard
Okay. What? Worthy Texas City opened the National Cowgirl Museum and Hall of fame in 2002.
Ike Barinholtz
I would say Dallas or Fort Worth. Come of Worthy.
Dax Shepard
I bet it's going to be that. Let's see. Fort Worthy.
Ike Barinholtz
All right, Monica.
Dax Shepard
We had a little clue in there.
Monica Padman
That was tough.
Ike Barinholtz
Monica, ask us one.
Monica Padman
I don't want to go top to bottom. I want to find.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah, find a good one.
Dax Shepard
Top to bottom.
Monica Padman
We got to find a good one.
Dax Shepard
I don't trust you. Oh, AE is one.
Monica Padman
What do you mean you don't trust me?
Ike Barinholtz
I don't.
Monica Padman
Okay.
Dax Shepard
AE is one of them.
Monica Padman
Okay, fine. I'll do ae.
Ike Barinholtz
Yes, that's arts and entertainment.
Monica Padman
Okay, great. You guys are gonna get.
Dax Shepard
This is my weakest one.
Monica Padman
What director claimed blondes make the best victims because, quote, they're like virgin snow. That shows up.
Dax Shepard
The count of three.
Monica Padman
Footprint.
Dax Shepard
Three, two, one. Hitch.
Monica Padman
Good job.
Ike Barinholtz
Which future Charlie's angel provided the singing voice of melody for TV's Josie and the Pussycats? Oh, this is one where it's like, I'm out.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, I mean, I don't know the names of all the angels. Farah Fawcet's one. She was one, but she didn't sing.
Ike Barinholtz
Jacqueline Smith was one.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Ike Barinholtz
Kate Jackson. And the answer to this one, I believe is Cheryl Lad. Go.
Monica Padman
Okay. Never.
Dax Shepard
I never like entertainment.
Ike Barinholtz
Go ahead, ask one.
Dax Shepard
Okay, next one. I'm Going to skip art? No, I'll do arts, and I'm going in order. Despite what beloved actor did columnist David anson eulogize in 2001 as the Paganini of panic? Pagani.
Ike Barinholtz
Paganini of panic.
Dax Shepard
Paganini of panic.
Ike Barinholtz
Which beloved actor died in 2001 of panic? Who was like, an actor who was constantly.
Dax Shepard
Panic.
Ike Barinholtz
Panicked.
Monica Padman
Who died in 2001?
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
Who died in 2001 who was, like, always scared?
Monica Padman
Was it Farah Fawcett?
Ike Barinholtz
For some reason, I feel like it's a male actor.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, it's a big male actor.
Ike Barinholtz
Oh, it is Marlon Brando.
Dax Shepard
Jack Lemon.
Ike Barinholtz
Jack Lemon, that's right. I should have known that. What? Jack lemon died in 2001.
Dax Shepard
He did not see 2002. I'm gonna go history or science or something, you know.
Monica Padman
Okay. What's sn?
Ike Barinholtz
Science and nature.
Monica Padman
What button is disabled in almost all elevators according to Global Elevator Technologies?
Ike Barinholtz
I know some things don't have a 13th floor, but I don't think that's it. Button is disabled in almost all elevators. I'm going to say this. Stop.
Dax Shepard
Okay. I'm going to say the door open button. I think it's door closed.
Monica Padman
Hey, good job.
Ike Barinholtz
Was it door closed?
Monica Padman
He got.
Ike Barinholtz
So when I see someone walking and I'm hitting the door close button, it does nothing.
Dax Shepard
I feel like it works for me.
Ike Barinholtz
I feel like it works for me.
Dax Shepard
But also, I would have thought doors open because if you're, like, mid transit, you're dropping floors and you're trying to hit the door open, it must be disabled. So you can't open the doors while it's in motion.
Monica Padman
Oh.
Ike Barinholtz
Or ever.
Dax Shepard
You shouldn't be able to prematurely have it open the doors. It should be in charge.
Ike Barinholtz
I agree with that.
Dax Shepard
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Monica Padman
I agree. And just the sleep quality is nice. Like, when you wake up, you feel like you really are refreshed.
Dax Shepard
Yes, because otherwise I wake up so sweaty, I'm taking blankets off, and then I get cold, and then I'm putting them back on. It's a nightmare.
Monica Padman
And then you're getting no sleep.
Dax Shepard
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Ike Barinholtz
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Dax Shepard
Learn more@adobe.com do that with Acrobat.
Ike Barinholtz
What Londoner ticked off her fellow designers in 2000 by narrating an anti fur video?
Monica Padman
Oh, I should maybe know this. An anti fur video.
Ike Barinholtz
Londoner.
Monica Padman
Her fellow designers.
Ike Barinholtz
Fellow designers.
Monica Padman
Diane von Furstenberg.
Ike Barinholtz
It's not.
Monica Padman
She's not a Londoner. And it wouldn't be.
Ike Barinholtz
I'll give you a. Her father is not from London.
Dax Shepard
Okay, Donna Vera Chichello. Whatever her name is. Donna is Italian.
Monica Padman
Versace is.
Ike Barinholtz
Father sometimes talk like this.
Dax Shepard
Well, but I thought you just said her dad was.
Ike Barinholtz
He's not from London.
Monica Padman
Okay, the dad is not from London, but she.
Ike Barinholtz
He's from a different British city, maybe Liverpool.
Dax Shepard
And he's a Beatle. Oh, Stella McCartney.
Ike Barinholtz
There you go.
Monica Padman
Good job.
Dax Shepard
That was. Good job.
Ike Barinholtz
Her dad wasn't from London. Dude.
Dax Shepard
Her father. Father once got up, got out of bed and ran a comb across his head. Okay, what American at Oxford was Britain's fifth most eligible woman in 2001 according to the Taylor magazine?
Ike Barinholtz
So what American at Oxford in 2001
Dax Shepard
was Britain's fifth most eligible woman in 2001? Oh, I have an idea.
Ike Barinholtz
Is it an actress?
Dax Shepard
I don't know, but the gal that was in the pirates movies.
Ike Barinholtz
Keira Knightley. Yeah, Kevin Knightley. But she's not American.
Monica Padman
Not American? Yeah.
Dax Shepard
Oh, American. No, she's certainly not American. What famous actress went to college at Oxford?
Ike Barinholtz
I'm gonna guess Natalie Portman.
Monica Padman
No, she didn't go to Oxford.
Dax Shepard
She went to Harvard.
Ike Barinholtz
My name's fucking Natalie Portman.
Dax Shepard
I'm gonna look at the fucking.
Ike Barinholtz
Snowed everywhere.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Monica Padman
Can you give a hint?
Dax Shepard
Yes.
Monica Padman
I don't think it's an actor.
Dax Shepard
Her father is Stella McCartney.
Monica Padman
God.
Dax Shepard
The clue I would give would be just so telling. I'm going to reread the question. Okay.
Monica Padman
Okay.
Dax Shepard
What American at Oxford was Britain's fifth most.
Ike Barinholtz
That would be my daughter, Chelsea Clinton. That's my daughter. Hands off. Hands off. Chelsea. I'd love to come visit you and your co ed in Oxford. Is that possible? I don't want to miss situation. We're good.
Dax Shepard
We're straight.
Ike Barinholtz
Are you sure?
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Monica Padman
They're testifying. I think very soon.
Dax Shepard
Right now?
Monica Padman
Right now, right? Yeah.
Dax Shepard
Should we go live to it, Rob? Go live.
Ike Barinholtz
I did not have sexual relations on Epstein's Island.
Monica Padman
All right. You guys like history?
Ike Barinholtz
I love it.
Dax Shepard
It's his. Go to.
Monica Padman
What Admiral was the first person to fly over both the north and south poles.
Dax Shepard
Wow.
Monica Padman
I have a hint if you need it.
Ike Barinholtz
I want to say Amidson, but I don't know if he was flying. I think he might have been pre flight because they said fly over.
Dax Shepard
This would be probably in the 20s.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah, probably in the 20s. Admiral Akbar from Star Wars.
Dax Shepard
I'm going to go with Akbar too.
Ike Barinholtz
It's not any of the discoverers. It's not Perry or Admon or Fitzgerald. Shackelford was another one. Was he maybe Everest? Shackelford?
Dax Shepard
Not the Edmond Fitzgerald.
Ike Barinholtz
It's not the record. The Edmund Fitzgerald.
Monica Padman
His last name is very accurate. Apropos flying over this south.
Dax Shepard
No, but Av.
Ike Barinholtz
Polar.
Dax Shepard
Snow. Jon Snow.
Ike Barinholtz
Jon Snow?
Monica Padman
Yes, it's Jon Snow. No, it's Richard Bird.
Ike Barinholtz
Richard Bird?
Dax Shepard
That doesn't even ring a bell. I never heard of that.
Ike Barinholtz
I actually think that's a fake name. What? Rodents meat. Do 3 out of 4 Peruvians munch believing it cures arthritis.
Dax Shepard
Easy. You right.
Monica Padman
Do three, two, one.
Ike Barinholtz
Oh, no.
Dax Shepard
I was just giving you time to. Because I feel like I know it, so I didn't want to be a dick.
Monica Padman
I don't know the capybara.
Ike Barinholtz
No.
Dax Shepard
What?
Ike Barinholtz
Guinea pig.
Monica Padman
Oh. Ew.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Ike Barinholtz
Hey. I'm obsessed with capybaras. My friend went to a capybara sanctuary where they, like, walk up to you and kind of sit next to you and get in your face.
Dax Shepard
They're adorable.
Ike Barinholtz
I'm not a big rodent guy.
Monica Padman
Sure.
Dax Shepard
Copy bars. Where is the sanctuary?
Ike Barinholtz
I think it's a meico.
Dax Shepard
They're the world's largest rodent.
Ike Barinholtz
They don't look like.
Dax Shepard
They look like cute little Shetland.
Ike Barinholtz
It's like a Star wars toy.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, like an Ewok. Okay, okay, here we go. How many blow holes does a baleen whale boast?
Monica Padman
I'm going to say zero.
Ike Barinholtz
I'm going to say two.
Dax Shepard
It's two.
Ike Barinholtz
I'm guessing I'm not a blow hole guy. I had my blow hole removed last year. I don't even like. I don't even like to think about it.
Dax Shepard
Blow hard.
Ike Barinholtz
What do you got, Monica?
Monica Padman
Okay, I really want to do a hard.
Ike Barinholtz
I have two more questions after this. I might.
Monica Padman
What South African Corporation sells 2 3rd of of the world's diamonds?
Dax Shepard
Oh, we know this. A three, two, one, Bears.
Monica Padman
Good job. Yes, the bears. You got it.
Ike Barinholtz
Where'd you get your wife's ring? The bears. What about what NBA superstar maintains anonymity by registering at hotels as Vladimir Mondingo? Oh, this one. I don't know. I'm looking.
Dax Shepard
Oh.
Monica Padman
Oh.
Dax Shepard
I mean, I think here's a time to go with your number one prime minister in the NBA, which is Shaquille o'. Neal.
Monica Padman
Oh, that's a good guess.
Ike Barinholtz
Yes, it is. Dax Shepard. I would have said like, you know, Durant or something.
Dax Shepard
Takes you to Russians. What was it?
Ike Barinholtz
Mandingo?
Dax Shepard
Yeah, he's always got a dick joke going. He infamously put a Subway sandwich in his shorts one time.
Monica Padman
I'm impressed.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, okay, that was good. What product did Singapore agree to let residents Residents use as long as they had a prescription in order to secure a U. S. Free trade agreement?
Ike Barinholtz
I think I know what this is.
Dax Shepard
I think I do too.
Ike Barinholtz
I'm gonna say chewing gum.
Dax Shepard
I haven't looked, but.
Monica Padman
How do you guys know this stuff?
Ike Barinholtz
Because there was a guy in the 90s, a kid who was in Singapore. People will say it's the cleanest place in the world. It's like Disneyland.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
The flip side of that is this American dude, I think just took a piece of gum and threw it on the ground or put it on a wall. They caned him and took a bamboo stick and ripped his ass like 10 times.
Dax Shepard
I feel like that was in the 90s.
Ike Barinholtz
Big news story.
Dax Shepard
And I went with my mother to Singapore in probably 98. And we specifically brought gum and chewed it. That's why. I knew it. We decided to just be outlaws by chewing gum.
Ike Barinholtz
Smart. Going to. Let's see if we're a foreign country where they have draconian laws, let's break a few.
Dax Shepard
That's our spirit. Chewing gum. Yep. You got it.
Monica Padman
Wow. Yeah.
Dax Shepard
Really good.
Ike Barinholtz
Give us one more.
Monica Padman
Okay, let's. Let's do this.
Dax Shepard
I'd love that you carry these. Bri and I used to. My ex girlfriend, we go to a restaurant and just have the stack of them in her purse. I love it.
Monica Padman
What veteran ABC announcer nixed NBC's invitation to work the Sydney Olympics, claiming Australia is too damn far away?
Ike Barinholtz
Abc. The only guys I remember from ABC were Peter Jennings or Sam Donaldson.
Dax Shepard
That feels like a Donaldson.
Ike Barinholtz
It feels like a Donaldson. Because he was a little more salty and kind of like, all right, I'm
Dax Shepard
going to say cantankerous.
Ike Barinholtz
He was contagious. Secrets. I'll say Donaldson.
Monica Padman
Okay, final answer. Jim McKay.
Ike Barinholtz
Oh, Jim McKay.
Dax Shepard
Jimmy Jammer.
Ike Barinholtz
My last one.
Dax Shepard
Jimmy Jammer.
Ike Barinholtz
What fruit was legally ruled to be a vegetable by the U.S. supreme Court in an 1893 tariff dispute? I know what this is.
Monica Padman
I hate.
Ike Barinholtz
Oh, no, I didn't.
Monica Padman
Yeah, because. Did you think tomato? Because it's the opposite.
Dax Shepard
I think tomato.
Monica Padman
No, that's the opposite. It's a fruit.
Dax Shepard
Tomato.
Monica Padman
It's not tomato.
Dax Shepard
That's my final answer.
Monica Padman
No, it's a fruit.
Ike Barinholtz
Right.
Dax Shepard
It was ruled as a vegetable for a tree trade agreement, but really, it's a fruit.
Ike Barinholtz
That's kind of my problem is I read too fast because I was like, it's bananas. Cuba, bananas, Hawaii. That's bananas.
Monica Padman
But then I feel like we would have heard that it got switched.
Dax Shepard
What they're saying is they're giving you the origin story of why there's confusion about whether it's a vegetable or a fruit. It's clearly a fruit. It has seeds. But it needed to get ruled as a vegetable to qualify for a trade agreement.
Ike Barinholtz
There was a sub ruling, though, that anyone who. When someone says, oh, my favorite vegetable is a tomato, and someone goes, it's actually a fruit root, you're legally allowed to slap that person.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
This is per US Code.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
Not my ruling.
Dax Shepard
That's the only great outgrowth of that trade agreement is that it is now
Ike Barinholtz
legal to slap someone if they correct
Dax Shepard
you on something obvious that everyone knows. If they tell you that the Phil Collins song In the Air Tonight is about a guy who watched another guy
Ike Barinholtz
repeatedly right there.
Dax Shepard
What other things? There's a few things that fall under this, you know, ruling.
Ike Barinholtz
Say the girl from Poltergeist is dead. You know, she died. Like, that's one where it's like, yeah, I know.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. Stop it.
Ike Barinholtz
Get out of here.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Monica Padman
Okay. Fun.
Dax Shepard
That was.
Ike Barinholtz
I like asking questions And I like answering questions. And I was like, what if we put this together with people I like? And it was funny.
Dax Shepard
I know it's really a gross part of my behavior, but I love answering questions. Like, shameful. Nothing gives me more joy.
Ike Barinholtz
Oh, God, I love it so much. Why?
Dax Shepard
What's wrong? Well, we know. We talked about it last time.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah. But it's just like we spent our lives. People have spent their lives reading weird and wondering when is it ever going to pay off in my life that I could name the pope who started the Great Schism? When am I ever going to be in a position where I'm going to be asked that? And now you might.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, you're right. It's roi which we talked about last time, too. It's final return on investment. You've put some time into this for no reason. And now we finally.
Ike Barinholtz
This is a financial podcast, by the way. This is your return of investment.
Dax Shepard
Our next guest is the guy. Jim. What's his name?
Ike Barinholtz
Jim Kramer.
Dax Shepard
Jim Kramer.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah. He's.
Dax Shepard
He's following.
Monica Padman
You
Ike Barinholtz
saw him outside. Just running sprints back and forth. All right.
Dax Shepard
I. I love you.
Ike Barinholtz
You guys are the greatest.
Dax Shepard
Thanks for number four. I know. We'll see on number five. When are we recording, I guess is my question.
Ike Barinholtz
I think I have two days off from the studio and we're kind of locking it in there. You're going to be with great company. We got you. We got Russell Brand.
Dax Shepard
Oh, geez. I'm gonna take a rainy.
Ike Barinholtz
Who else is on there? BTK Killer.
Dax Shepard
Okay. And.
Ike Barinholtz
Oh, Henry Kiss. Anders. Ghost.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Ike Barinholtz
So I think you're gonna be with, like, people that you're gonna be like. This is kind of fun and splashy and Casey Anthony. Great.
Dax Shepard
This sounds.
Ike Barinholtz
We have our first trunch.
Monica Padman
Sure.
Ike Barinholtz
And then we have.
Dax Shepard
And then we have me in the gang.
Monica Padman
Second group.
Ike Barinholtz
You and the gang.
Dax Shepard
Do the sponsors know about the lineup for.
Ike Barinholtz
We tell them afterwards.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Ike Barinholtz
I look forward to seeing you on Saturday wearing a full diaper.
Monica Padman
Oh, yeah, that's right. Sunday.
Ike Barinholtz
Sunday. He wishes it was Saturday. And the actor goes to.
Dax Shepard
I mean, you're at backstage. I run out crying on stage. There's no toilet paper.
Ike Barinholtz
It's for my health.
Dax Shepard
Get our kids out of here. The kids need you. I interrupt the thing because I know I can't handle this.
Ike Barinholtz
Benicio's filming you.
Dax Shepard
I'm myself and the kids need something. You have to come on stage.
Ike Barinholtz
You've got to look at this video I got of Dax Shepard shitting himself on stage.
Dax Shepard
He. You he you for real?
Ike Barinholtz
He shit you for real.
Dax Shepard
All right. Love you.
Ike Barinholtz
Love you, baby.
Dax Shepard
He is an armchair expert, but he makes mistakes all the time. Thank God Monica's here. She's got to let him have the facts. Hi, 10 year old.
Monica Padman
Why? Because I'm wearing shorts and your hair
Dax Shepard
is back in a gray ponytail?
Monica Padman
Yeah, because I have to wash my hair.
Dax Shepard
It's a thousand degrees out, so it feels like Bali outside. Have you been to Bali?
Monica Padman
No.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Monica Padman
I haven't actually. That reminds me. I was playing a fun game yesterday.
Dax Shepard
Bajan.
Monica Padman
No, that's tonight. I was playing a fun game where you say the name of a country. Like I was say Japan.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Monica Padman
And then you, in your head, think of from a scale of 1 to 10, how badly you want to go there.
Dax Shepard
Okay, great.
Monica Padman
And then I guess your number.
Dax Shepard
Okay. Japan.
Monica Padman
Okay. For me. Okay. I have my number.
Dax Shepard
Oh, okay. Okay. For you, I guess. I guess nine.
Monica Padman
Yes. Nine. I really want to go.
Dax Shepard
Guess for me.
Monica Padman
Oh, oh, oh. 9, 10, 10.
Dax Shepard
But is that just dying to go?
Monica Padman
I'm dying to go, too.
Dax Shepard
And all my, like, idols, all my mentors in my life, they don't just go like, oh, I like it. They're like, you. You have to. For some reason, they think specific to you, that I'm going to really respond to what's happening.
Monica Padman
Let me tell you something.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah.
Monica Padman
I know this isn't fair. I do this to people. I tell them that their answers are wrong.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Monica Padman
Okay. I think your answer is wrong because. Because you don't. Or sushi.
Dax Shepard
I do like some sushi.
Monica Padman
You don't like real giri?
Dax Shepard
I like yellow tail and salmon on rice. That's. I used to get that from sugar fish. Sugar fish all the time. Okay, so I got a one bad order and I'll.
Monica Padman
And that's. Now you're not. So, like.
Dax Shepard
But also they do a ton of great steak. They do wagyu.
Monica Padman
Yeah. I just. I think food wise, it's not going to be your 100. You're 10.
Ike Barinholtz
Yes.
Dax Shepard
That's not.
Monica Padman
So I brought it down to nine.
Dax Shepard
Okay. Okay. Okay. The reason people want me to go there is that everything is executed perfectly.
Monica Padman
Oh, I'm so excited to be there.
Dax Shepard
Like, Tom Hansen's. Like, when the man is sweeping the cobblestone, it's like he's building a Swiss watch. Like, everything is done meticulously. I love that and I would love to witness that.
Monica Padman
I also think you're going to feel a little crowded on the trains and stuff. I think you're going to Feel a tiny bit claustrophobic and tall.
Dax Shepard
Slash grateful, because I'll be so much bigger than everyone.
Monica Padman
Okay.
Dax Shepard
I don't feel like Godzilla.
Monica Padman
I still think you're a nine.
Dax Shepard
Okay. I'm basing it on, like, what is my. Like, first of all, it's a hurdle to get there. It's. You're losing a day. Right. So if I got to pick my very next place I went to, it's my pick.
Monica Padman
Yeah, me too.
Dax Shepard
Like, I'm going to Budapest, which is high on the list, but it's more convenient to what's already happening. But really, the thing I most want to go to is Japan.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
That's why I got to set it at 10.
Monica Padman
I understand.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Monica Padman
That makes sense what you did.
Dax Shepard
What's your one that you like right now? You can teleport anywhere. What is it?
Monica Padman
Okay, now, see, this is hard.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Monica Padman
Because do I want to go somewhere new?
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Monica Padman
For my teleportation.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. It's got to be new.
Monica Padman
Oh. It.
Dax Shepard
For this game.
Monica Padman
Okay, then Japan. Yes.
Dax Shepard
That's your also top. Next.
Monica Padman
Yeah. The problem is some of my 10 are places I've been.
Dax Shepard
Sure, sure. Yeah. For me, too. Africa, to me, would be like, going back to Africa would be a 10.
Monica Padman
So where do you think Africa is? Well, Africa's a continent, but specifically, the
Dax Shepard
Grumetti reserve in Tanzania is where I would want to go. Or I really, really want to go to Mozambique. I want to go to the Akwanga Delta.
Monica Padman
Okay.
Dax Shepard
Okay. In Mozambique, which is the jewel of Africa, they say it's all water. You're, like, on boats, seeing elephants and stuff.
Monica Padman
And where do you think that's. That is on my list?
Dax Shepard
6.5. 7.
Monica Padman
6.
Dax Shepard
Okay. Okay. Yeah.
Monica Padman
Actually, 6.5. I just don't do 0.5s. But. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. I'm very. I'm very knowable.
Dax Shepard
I'm putting it a little higher than New York because I actually know how luxurious it could be. And you don't know that yet.
Monica Padman
Yeah, I'm sure I would absolutely love it. Yeah, I know I would. But as we discussed recently, it is a character defect. I'm working. I'm trying to work on it.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Monica Padman
I don't have enough appreciation for Nate. Nature, and I recognize that.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Monica Padman
And I wish I had more.
Dax Shepard
Boy, if any place would break through, it would be Africa.
Monica Padman
Yeah, I bet.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. I mean, as I said, you can tell it's the cauldron of life, right?
Monica Padman
Exactly. It's palpable yeah. But I think I'm gonna teleport to
Dax Shepard
New York or Paris. Yeah, yeah.
Monica Padman
Or London or Italy or London. I am this summer gonna try to go to London. London and Paris. Okay, so that's nowhere new.
Dax Shepard
Right.
Monica Padman
I'm not in the mood for new this year.
Dax Shepard
Will you be traveling alone there or will you be.
Monica Padman
No friends?
Dax Shepard
Okay, you what friends are.
Monica Padman
Anna.
Dax Shepard
She wants to go to Europe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Monica Padman
And we went to London together. When we all went to London.
Dax Shepard
Yes.
Monica Padman
And we had just the best time. And we talk about it all the time, how we need to go back.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Monica Padman
So I think we're gonna go.
Dax Shepard
It's great. Italy. So obviously, I think it's the best, personally. But it is unrelentingly hot in the summer.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
And then there's so many tourists. I feel so bad for the Italians. It's a mix of I feel so bad for them, and also that's such a huge chunk of their economy that of course I don't feel bad for them. But I just like, if you lived in Rome and 90% of the people you saw dayto day didn't live. Weren't your neighbors, didn't live there. That must get taxi.
Monica Padman
That's probably like. If you live in. On Sunset.
Dax Shepard
I don't know if it's that bad. I think when you're walking through Rome, you're seeing in the summer.
Monica Padman
If you live on Hollywood Boulevard.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, if you live on Hollywood Boulevard.
Monica Padman
Yeah, that's what I meant. That's what I meant. Or if you live in Times Square. That's tough.
Dax Shepard
If you live right in Times Square. Yeah. It could be. Be challenging to.
Monica Padman
You didn't. Didn't Alexander Skarsgard lived. Live in kind of somewhere horrendous right in the middle of Times Square.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like when I stayed. When they put me for baby mama. Initially at a hotel above a fire station in the police station across from Grand Central Station.
Monica Padman
Oh, ouch.
Dax Shepard
And I was like, they.
Monica Padman
They hate me.
Dax Shepard
We were just. This just came up in my Tuesday meeting. Just status. And I think especially when you're on sets and people are ranked and, like,
Monica Padman
literally ranked on the call sheet.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. It's like one year you're number 16 and. And you get allocated resources commensurate with that number, Right.
Monica Padman
Yes, you do.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. So I'm at the box above the, you know, fire department.
Monica Padman
Yeah. And where was, like, Amy, who's probably number. Amy and Tina were number one and two.
Dax Shepard
Tina and Amy live there.
Monica Padman
Oh, yeah.
Dax Shepard
So I'M trying to think who I would have had to go to next. Ultimately, they got me out of there and I went to the Maritime, which was great.
Monica Padman
Yeah. And there's ghosts there.
Dax Shepard
There was ghosts there. Yeah. And you're right in the meatpacking. There's great food in my area. It was lovely. Anyhow, that was just the topic on Tuesday, and a friend of mine who is about to go on a press tour was like, I just want to make sure I behave and don't get caught up in, like, am I in that picture? Am I not? Did they ask me to go to this interview or not?
Monica Padman
It's hard.
Dax Shepard
And he reached out to a fellow person, and I can't believe this. Brilliant advice. They were like, well, there's someone else in the cast that's younger and probably. Probably needs help that hasn't been here before.
Monica Padman
That can be your job.
Dax Shepard
Focus on that person.
Monica Padman
Yeah, that's love.
Dax Shepard
And he did. And he goes, I've never felt better ever. I never considered one of the things I did or didn't get. And the parents of this person thought I was so nice, and I told them, I'm not. I was just being selfish. I wanted to make sure I didn't act like a brat. And it was a joy to do it. And I'm actually grateful to you anyways.
Monica Padman
That's great.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. I was like, what great advice. What was this event you were at just now?
Monica Padman
I wasn't at an event.
Dax Shepard
I thought you were busy today.
Monica Padman
Oh, I was. I was. Record. I was. I had a meeting and a recording.
Dax Shepard
What was the recording?
Monica Padman
I ended up not doing it. I ended up having to reschedule it. But it was for.
Ike Barinholtz
We're.
Monica Padman
We're testing out a season two of Beth's Dead.
Dax Shepard
Oh, okay.
Monica Padman
We have a potential story, and so we want to record us at the very beginning talking about potential merits of it. Exactly. Exactly.
Dax Shepard
What's. Well, you can't tell. You'll tell me privately.
Monica Padman
I can't talk about it.
Dax Shepard
But someone contacted you, I presume, Actually.
Monica Padman
So it's funny because we, you know, we've been kind of keeping our ears open for interesting stories that are meaningful that will do the same thing that this first one did. So we're not just, you know, and we're not like, on a timeline or anything. It's just, if there's something good, good, we'll do it.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Monica Padman
So Elizabeth came across a couple stories, and she was telling me, and then she was like, it's kind of like this story that Happened to Andy. And then I was like, wait, what? And then she tells that. And I was like, wait, why don't I know about this?
Dax Shepard
What if you come to find out? Elizabeth and Andy are the actual.
Monica Padman
Yeah. Catfishers.
Dax Shepard
They have all these stories.
Monica Padman
I know. I did think I was like, what? Yeah. Well, we know what happened because I
Dax Shepard
have a suspicious amount of stories. You know, I often hear myself telling a story and I'm like, if I was this person, I'd be like, that didn't. You didn't get shot at. You know, like, there's no way this also happened and that thing had also happened.
Monica Padman
I know. Well, to be fair, this one isn't. It didn't actually happen to Andy. That's not really a fair way of me framing it. He was involved with people and this story happened to those people.
Dax Shepard
Okay. Okay.
Monica Padman
So I'm supposed to do that.
Dax Shepard
And then why is too hot.
Monica Padman
Well, I have to cut. Why? Because I feel bad. I just. I'm getting a tree delivery.
Dax Shepard
Okay. That's getting planted in your yard or
Monica Padman
it's in indoor tree.
Dax Shepard
Indoor tree.
Monica Padman
And it's very exciting. And there's three options and I really want to see them. And I really wanted it done by tonight because of mahjong and Charlie's party tomorrow. So today was the only day that's supposed to happen at 11, 7:30. Guess what? It's happening right now. Oh, so it really. It did. I got karma. It was karma. Yeah.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Monica Padman
I guess I'll leave it in because I'm honest.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So as you were walking out there,
Monica Padman
walking in virtually, like. I mean, I didn't see them, but I assume they're there right now. She texted me and it's hot.
Dax Shepard
It's a hot topic. Oh, no, it's physically hot out.
Monica Padman
It's physically hot.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. It's outrageous. Not only. Like, we get these blasts every year. We get these blasts of like three days of 90s in winter. We don't get. Or we're. We have two weeks of 90s. Like, I look today at the coming schedule for the next eight days out. It still never gets below 85 for the next 10 days that are on the map.
Monica Padman
Does make me anxious that it's happening in March. Like, what is going to happen in August and September? Yeah.
Dax Shepard
But again, I don't know that there's any indic. I don't know that it works that way.
Monica Padman
I hope not.
Dax Shepard
Again, tell you about the dinosaur show. I found that weirdly comforting.
Monica Padman
Well, you just said you're watching one.
Dax Shepard
I didn't tell you about the geology of it. More interesting than learning about the dinosaurs is learning about the history of the planet. This place is an absolute mess. So right. It started as one continent, Pangea. When that broke apart it blacked out the sky. It was like 100 degree cooler. Then there were these periods of like insane methane and carbon dioxide and it was in the hundreds. Everything died. Then it cooled off because of this and then it came back like I believe in global warming.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
But we are talking about us moving up like 2 to 4 degrees Celsius. And it's just interesting. Watch it show that the Earth has gone through cycles of hundreds of degrees
Monica Padman
Celsius couldn't sustain human life.
Ike Barinholtz
No.
Dax Shepard
But for the Earth's record, this isn't a skin knee. Like that's an interesting way to.
Monica Padman
But we've also changed the way our own requirements from the Earth. We demand so much more.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. And so did the explosion of trees. Like there was not trees. This was an interesting absolutely hard to believe fact. You know sharks have been here longer than trees. Whoa.
Ike Barinholtz
Really?
Dax Shepard
Like what it. Trees are like the green. The. The green of fine of the planet and there being oxygen here is so new in its five billion year history.
Monica Padman
Ding, ding.
Dax Shepard
So there's no trees and then there's too many trees. And then everything died and then it came back and there were all these crazy volcanoes that were just spewing forever and then it was D out and it's like wow, this, this thing has seen it all.
Monica Padman
It's been through it. Ding, ding, ding. Trees.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Monica Padman
There's a tree in my. Coming to my house.
Dax Shepard
Oh yeah. That is ding ding, ding.
Monica Padman
So that's cool.
Ike Barinholtz
Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert if you dare.
Monica Padman
The stakes of the tree coming into my house are high because it's not a small. It's a large tree.
Dax Shepard
Where does it live?
Monica Padman
In the living room. I'm so excited. It's going to look so pretty and
Dax Shepard
it'll get enough light and who will water.
Monica Padman
That's the part I'm having anxiety.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
Well, you have an automatic irrigation system.
Monica Padman
No, I'll water it. I'm good at watering.
Dax Shepard
That'll be no problem.
Monica Padman
I'm good at doing it. I just don't know if I'm. I do it right because things still die.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
You can chat it. Chat GPT. It'll probably tell you how many ounces of water to put in schedule. That's true. Probably a smart device you can get to that measures the soil moisture I bet you can automate the whole thing and fill up a tank once in a while and put nitrogen pellets in there. It'll probably just keep it perfect.
Monica Padman
Okay. I want to do that because it's an important tree, and if it dies,
Dax Shepard
you don't even know what tree it is yet, but it is when you see it. I know it's important. You know, it's a very important, important.
Monica Padman
Yeah. And I. If it dies under my water, you
Dax Shepard
just have tons of soil in your. You obviously. You have tons of soil.
Monica Padman
It's gonna be in a pot.
Dax Shepard
Uhhuh. This is an interesting idea, right? They have, like, a ton of soil in your living room.
Monica Padman
Well, it's in a pot.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, I know.
Monica Padman
Like, that.
Dax Shepard
That doesn't have soil because that's a fake tree.
Monica Padman
But let's pretend it was real.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. If there's a big, big pot of dirt over there, I bet we would smell it.
Monica Padman
It'd be fine. No, it has moss on top. It's fine. I have plants. You're.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Monica Padman
You're not a big plant. Plant guy. Just like. I'm not a big. I'm not really interested in nature. Yeah, you're not really interested in plants.
Dax Shepard
It's kind of like dogs. Like, there's a lot of stuff that's outside. I don't need to bring it inside. It's fine with me. That's outside. And then I can go visit it outside. But I like, like, you know.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
Do you.
Dax Shepard
Have you ever played Rummy Cube?
Monica Padman
I'm shook by the sim.
Dax Shepard
Oh, wow.
Monica Padman
Because what. The next thing that was about to come out of my mouth. Mouth was sort of like Rummy Cube Mahjong. Yeah. But yeah.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, there's tiles and. Have you ever played Rummy Cube?
Monica Padman
Yes, I have.
Dax Shepard
It's so fun.
Monica Padman
I like it.
Dax Shepard
Lincoln and I had the most. I mean, she's becoming my Erin Weekly as she gets older.
Monica Padman
Don't say that. You already have an Aaron Weekly. Well, he's becoming your Lincoln.
Dax Shepard
He should be nervous.
Monica Padman
You guys have your own relationship.
Dax Shepard
But I mean, in that. The way Aaron and I could in seventh grade get onto something that would last for hours and no one else was enjoying it.
Monica Padman
Oh, wow. Okay.
Dax Shepard
So she and I played Rummy Cube and we started singing at some point, and we sang for, like, two hours together playing this game. And it was. It was as fun as someone can have. And that came on the heels of watching the second episode of DTF. Oh, my St. Louis.
Monica Padman
What a show. I want. I. Yeah, I'm two in.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. What a show. As you might expect, I've left all these guys messages.
Monica Padman
Of course you have. Saying, yes, you're mad.
Dax Shepard
No, saying, well, I see that you guys are having a lot of fun talking. Talking about Peronies. Everyone's having a good laugh at the idea of someone having Peronis.
Monica Padman
It does feel like a personal attack. I will say.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. I mean, they go after having a good time with Peronis as they should. It's such a stupid condition. I just think it's also crazy that I can leave a message that I have had Peronis and I'm on the other side of Peyton.
Monica Padman
I know. Thank God you're on the other side.
Dax Shepard
Said to them, I know you guys think. Think it's a real hoot, but you should know that I was told it'll either heal by itself in a year or you'll have to have a operation, a C section that is 50% successful. And the other half of the time, you will never use your penis again. So I hope you guys know that that's what I had to deal with. And I know everyone's having a real good laugh.
Monica Padman
See, now you know what it's like. Now you know what it's like when someone's suffering. Suffering from something.
Dax Shepard
I know, but I used to call them.
Monica Padman
And then when someone's making fun of it, they don't understand what it's like to live with.
Dax Shepard
I think it's a bad comp. Because it didn't. It doesn't bother me at all. And ideally we would want it to bother me so that I would understand how other people feel.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
But that kind of confirms already my worldview, which is like, just get over it.
Monica Padman
But if you didn't.
Dax Shepard
If I had lost my penis.
Monica Padman
Exactly. You might have more sensitivity around, like. Well, you would have more physical sense.
Dax Shepard
I'd have no sensitivity. Some sense exacerbated sensitivity.
Monica Padman
If so, okay. It has no sensitivity. So you could, like.
Dax Shepard
I don't think it'll get erect, but
Monica Padman
can you feel anything?
Dax Shepard
I don't know. It didn't sound. It didn't sound good. Like, when they can't use your. You use it as a hammer instead.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
You start using it.
Monica Padman
Yeah. Use it as a real. A tool. As it's meant as a wedge.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. I didn't. I didn't. Like, I didn't do enough follow up questions. Because to be honest, when I heard that, I was like, we're not getting that procedure. I don't care what. I don't care if the penis ties itself into a bow. We won't get a procedure that makes it not ever work.
Monica Padman
Right. I see. Yeah.
Dax Shepard
Like, however bad the Peronis could have gotten, I can't imagine rolling the die, flipping a coin like that.
Monica Padman
It's a lot.
Dax Shepard
It's a lot. You got to conce. You got to talk to your partner about that. Of course. Yeah.
Monica Padman
But they might feel like, I. I want you to take no risk because I can't even, like, get this in.
Dax Shepard
I thought you're going another direction, which is. I hope that is the outcome.
Monica Padman
Oh, sure. Well, I guess they. They have a built in out. Even if. If it's all twisted up, they could just like, I'm sorry, I can't.
Dax Shepard
Like, I can't put a bow tie in there.
Monica Padman
Yeah. It won't go. And then you just be like. But I don't want you to change. So you just be you and you never have to have sex.
Dax Shepard
That's right. Yeah. It's the dream. Every wife's dream.
Monica Padman
It's a lot of wives dreams. Not all wives.
Dax Shepard
It's not my wife's dream. I don't want to paint that picture.
Monica Padman
Yeah, we're not painting that picture. But it's some wives dreams. Oh, my God. Let's see what else.
Dax Shepard
I keep thinking of movies to add to my list to show Lincoln. I'm so excited. Flirting with disaster. Like, of course. How could I have not shown her flirting with disaster?
Monica Padman
You showed me that movie.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. And it. And I'm due for a rewatch.
Monica Padman
Yeah, I would rewatch that. Can I come over for that? I would love to rewatch that.
Dax Shepard
Yes. And. And then Can't Buy Me Love commenter suggested. I was like, duh, it's my favorite teen movie of all time.
Monica Padman
Flirting with disaster. Ding, ding, ding. Richard Jenkins is in DTF St. Louis. And he's so good in it.
Dax Shepard
He's so prominent.
Monica Padman
He's very prominent. I think everyone needs to watch DTF St. Louis.
Dax Shepard
And do you watch Wednesday?
Monica Padman
I've dropped off on Wednesday.
Dax Shepard
But you would have. You've seen the first season, right?
Monica Padman
Yeah, I loved the first season.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. So you know her kind of nemesis that's black. She's like a Slytherin. I don't know what they're called, but she's like a shape shifter or whatever.
Monica Padman
She's got.
Dax Shepard
Got like, green eyes. She's the detective that Jenkins is battling.
Monica Padman
Right. She's.
Dax Shepard
And you get to see her real pupils for the first time, which is exciting. She's great.
Monica Padman
I have a Question. What are your. What's your opinion on what's going on with Love Story, the show about JFK Jr. And Carolyn Bessette Kennedy? Do you know there's drama?
Dax Shepard
No, it's the drama. I haven't watched it. The only thing I know about it is from you.
Monica Padman
Yeah. Because I keep watching it.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Monica Padman
Even though I. I know that there are some problematic things.
Dax Shepard
Right.
Monica Padman
Well, Jack Schlossberg, who is. I'm going to tell you, he is Caroline Kennedy's son in real life. Yes. Caroline Kennedy, who is JFK Jr. Sister.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Monica Padman
Son of JFK.
Dax Shepard
Yep.
Monica Padman
And daughter of JFK.
Dax Shepard
Daughter of JFK. Yeah.
Monica Padman
Caroline is JFK's jot. Jot.
Dax Shepard
Daughter.
Monica Padman
Daughter. His brother was JFK Jr. Yeah. Her son.
Dax Shepard
Okay. And you know, his grandson had he lived.
Monica Padman
Correct. JFK's grandson. What Caroline Kennedy has lived through is just so unbelievable. Like, you just are like, how can one person endure that much?
Dax Shepard
That's brother, uncle, dad, dad.
Monica Padman
Daughter just died, like, recently. Yeah. In December of cancer.
Dax Shepard
Oh, my Lord.
Monica Padman
Yeah. And she was like 33 or something. Tatiana, she's just endured the most, you know, And Jack is. That's his mom and she's in the show. She's portrayed in the show. Caroline is. And. And they all are. And like, Jack is very openly against this show. He's like, this is. Yes. This is not a correct depiction of anyone. And I totally understand that. And also, so. So at the beginning of the show, JFK Jr. Is dating Daryl Hannah, as he did. And the depiction of Daryl Hannah is really not flattering.
Dax Shepard
It's not.
Monica Padman
No.
Dax Shepard
What things did they.
Monica Padman
They just make her look, like, very dumb and ditzy and like, she's doing coke and like, she's just like a real. Like,
Dax Shepard
I've hung out with her once and I thought she was incredibly rad.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
I had noticed someone had like, a jacked up F250 pickup truck at this small gathering. I was like, whose truck is that? It was hers.
Monica Padman
Oh, that's cool.
Dax Shepard
And she goes, yeah, I need it because I put my snowmobile in it. I'm like, you snowmobile? I'm like, this is so rad. Like, you are a mermaid and you fucking have a jacked up 250 in snowmobile. I think she's like a tough, cool woman.
Monica Padman
Yes. So she wrote an article, an op ed that was basically like, very, very, very well done and. And said this isn't. This is all incorrect. Not just the, like, overall depiction of her, but some factual things. She was like, I've never done coke, whatever, all these things. So there's, like, some real criticism that I very much understand. And I'm like, why am I still watching? And I am. I'm in.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Monica Padman
And so I guess I'm saying I'm sorry and Daryl Hannah. And what I'm actually really saying is I. I can sometimes get on a high horse about people engaging in things that I think are wrong.
Dax Shepard
Uhhuh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Monica Padman
And you and celebrity gossip and, like, dumb stuff.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. But we love the crown.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Ike Barinholtz
That.
Monica Padman
That to me, doesn't have the same stink on it. Like, that's such a beautifully done show. This is Ryan Murphy. I mean, it is classically Ryan Murphy.
Dax Shepard
It's salacious.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
Scandalous.
Monica Padman
And yet here I am participating. But I guess what I will say the difference is I'm watching it, I'm enjoying it, and I am very much aware this is all made up.
Dax Shepard
Right, right, right.
Monica Padman
None of this is real or based on any real truths, so I can enjoy it and know it. I'm not at risk of getting, like, it's fan fiction. Yes. I'm not going to start thinking about Daryl Hannah a specific way or any of these people a specific way based on it. So I guess maybe that's where I find a wonderful.
Dax Shepard
Live long enough to be like a fringe character in remake of some drama, you know?
Monica Padman
Okay, who would it be?
Dax Shepard
I don't know. You'd have to go, like, one of my most famous friends. Like, if they did a movie about Ashton and Mila, somehow I was like, I made a couple scenes.
Monica Padman
Yeah. You'd be there, and then they painted
Dax Shepard
me, like, ERA in cra. Crazy.
Monica Padman
Well, then you'd be like, that's accurate.
Dax Shepard
They just mention I love snowmobiles and you can say whatever you want about me.
Monica Padman
Yeah, no, but yeah, like, if they. So if they, like, portrayed you as very dumb, it would be, like, to service the Ashton story. Right. Which. That was the point of this. She's a sidekick character. Because the point is to get it. Get him to Carolyn.
Dax Shepard
You want him to be with Carolyn.
Monica Padman
Exactly. So if they had you as, like, an idiot and it was to service some story for Ashton, like, it would suck. It would be like, that's not true at all. And now people think that about me and I'm alive. You're al. I'm saying you would say, like, and now people have this impression of me. I'm still a person and out in the world.
Dax Shepard
Well, that is what ultimately kept me from getting to do the show this. Best thing I've ever written. A false history of Daryl Hall.
Monica Padman
Oh, right.
Dax Shepard
And I had met with Daryl seven times. You know, seven. I met with him several times, and we got along great. And the conceit of the show is this is not his life. But I'm going to. I'm going to explain this catalog of 40 hit songs in story and give them these fantastical origins.
Monica Padman
No, I love this.
Dax Shepard
While plotting this bigger arc of his life, which wasn't his. His life at all. And then the tit of the show is going to be a false history of Daryl Hall.
Monica Padman
Yeah, yeah.
Dax Shepard
And, you know, somewhat understandably, he's like, you know, at the 11th hour, he's like, yeah, I just, like. I'm afraid people won't distinguish that.
Monica Padman
I understand.
Dax Shepard
And then, like, what if it's huge and then he's dead and who knows what thing people want?
Monica Padman
It's literally in the title.
Dax Shepard
I know it's in the title. Yeah. I mean, look, I thought it was very clear and that there was nothing to it and it would be very fun and such a fun and weird way to celebrate that amazing catalog.
Monica Padman
Yeah, yeah, that's. I think, in that case, I understand. It's your personal.
Dax Shepard
I'm gonna give the listener an example of one of the episodes.
Monica Padman
Okay.
Dax Shepard
All right. You know the song One on One, I wanna spin I wanna play that game tonight One on one I knew I know it. Yeah. So one on One. So it's a beautiful love song. We all know this is a beautiful love song. But really, in that episode, Daryl shows up to a show at the Roxy. They're gonna do this small thing for this, like, review thing. And as he shows up, he notices three guys unloading equipment from the bus. And they're not the roadies, and so he tries to stop them. It's three dudes stealing all the equipment, and they jump him at the beginning of the episode.
Monica Padman
Okay.
Dax Shepard
And they need a song. Like, there's always a thing. He needs a song. Blah, blah, blah. The whole rest of the episode, which is following the other grander arc of the thing. Then there's just some kind of resolution. He hears a third, and then he's walking down the street at the end of the episode, and he sees one of the guys that jumped on. And it's like, what? I want to play that game tonight. And as you're listening to those lyrics, you realize, oh, it could also very much be about finding the dude and being so excited to finally take on one of them.
Monica Padman
That's Great.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. So they all. All these things that you thought were about this. It's this exaggerated thing. It really was about. And it was so fun to write. Yeah.
Monica Padman
I think you could have done it.
Dax Shepard
And now I'm just too old.
Monica Padman
What if when he dies, it's even worse?
Dax Shepard
I wanted to play him. I. It would be hard for me to watch someone else play him. Well. Because we're both tall and blonde and when this thing was. Had legs. I think I was 40 when this was really in full.
Monica Padman
Okay.
Dax Shepard
Swing. And he was a little older when he got famous.
Monica Padman
So could.
Dax Shepard
I couldn't tell those songs because I'm 51 and we know those songs were written in the 80s.
Monica Padman
Oh, well, can't you.
Dax Shepard
And then I'd have to watch Justin. Justin. I'd have to watch Butler.
Monica Padman
Austin.
Dax Shepard
Austin Butler do it. He would be my pick.
Monica Padman
What? No, that's a bad pick.
Dax Shepard
No. He's so handsome and tall and I met him, you know, I. Yeah. I was so smitten. Carly almost fell over.
Monica Padman
I know.
Dax Shepard
My brother said, oh, my God, you're Elvis. It was a whole thing.
Monica Padman
I remember. But I'm just saying. Hold on, let me look up Daryl
Dax Shepard
hall in the 80s 80s blue eyed soul.
Monica Padman
Okay. Austin Butler.
Dax Shepard
What's the matter? No, because he.
Monica Padman
This guy is a real face.
Dax Shepard
Like me.
Monica Padman
Exactly.
Dax Shepard
Like a real normal face.
Monica Padman
Why don't you use AI?
Dax Shepard
Like I could have played him.
Monica Padman
Yes, you definitely could have.
Dax Shepard
I had that hairdo. Yeah, I got the blue eyes.
Monica Padman
Okay. I don't think this. This is dead in the water. I think that.
Dax Shepard
Or I could play Jono. What do you think?
Monica Padman
You could go either way.
Dax Shepard
But I think I wanted.
Monica Padman
That would be fun.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah. Yeah.
Dax Shepard
I really wanted pain you to play.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Ike Barinholtz
Well, it looks like Jorma.
Dax Shepard
Sure, sure.
Monica Padman
Yeah. I think that you guys could do this and use the new AI technology to make you look younger, but it's still you. I. You know, Ben just sold. Sold a big company to Netflix, so I think you could do this.
Dax Shepard
Okay, I'll do it.
Monica Padman
Okay.
Dax Shepard
That doesn't change how Daryl feels about
Monica Padman
it, but maybe time is changing.
Dax Shepard
Oh. The thing is, is, by the way, I could do this. He's a public figure, so. And. And there is a version where I could have done it without his permission, but I need the music. The whole show's a celebration of the music.
Monica Padman
Would you that. Would you.
Dax Shepard
I wouldn't want it.
Monica Padman
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dax Shepard
But the. The. There's no show without the music.
Monica Padman
Yeah. Did you ever think about doing it with another Musical figure that would say yes to it.
Dax Shepard
Well, the reason I didn't is because, you know, I had this like four year obsession with Daryl Hall. Hall and Oates, but Daryl Hall. I just. I, like, I. It was such an obsession that I was like, I'm being called to do something more than just listen. Listen to the music. Which is how I came up with the idea. I'm like, oh, I want to be more involved with this music than just listening to it.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
And I don't. I don't feel that way about the catalog of Sabrina Carpenter Sabrines. You could play her. Still brainy. Yeah. My window's closing of people I could play. You know, that's just. That's just a fact.
Monica Padman
New. A new category is opening up.
Dax Shepard
But no one's very proud, prolific in this period. Like, no one's trying to watch the third act of a famous singer's life. You know, you want to see the rhymes.
Monica Padman
You can be in the. You're not in the flashbacks, but you're in the current day.
Dax Shepard
Oh, boy. Okay, so it's me, current day, and then Austin Butler when we flashback.
Monica Padman
Okay, I think we can do some facts now.
Dax Shepard
Oh, I've done Ike Barinholtz. Fact.
Monica Padman
Yeah. Yes.
Dax Shepard
And I did his show.
Monica Padman
That's right.
Dax Shepard
Since he was on.
Monica Padman
And how was it?
Dax Shepard
So much fun. So much fun.
Monica Padman
You got caught.
Dax Shepard
I got a couple. Oh, I got several wrong. Is that what you mean?
Monica Padman
Yeah. But you said you thought you were. You were tricked on one.
Dax Shepard
Well, I was. He doesn't understand what anthropology is. Yeah. He got it confused with history, which is fine.
Monica Padman
Sure.
Dax Shepard
I did end up. I did end up getting it, even though I didn't really deserve it. Abigail Gilgamesh.
Monica Padman
My take on that was. You extra deserve it because it's actually not your skill set. And you still knew.
Dax Shepard
I didn't even give a great example to him when I was explaining why that wasn't anthropology. He's like, but isn't. Isn't. It's a study of man. I go, yeah, it's a study of man, but mostly the evolution to, you know, but really I was like, it's the study of man. Before we wrote and had written records of man. We don't need to. We don't need to do detective work. History historians tell us what happened in those periods through the written record. Yeah, it's pre. Written record that we're trying to figure out.
Monica Padman
Ouch.
Dax Shepard
Obviously it's not bothering me anymore.
Monica Padman
Clearly. Okay. The Moon river Fletch. Reference 1990. 5 movie Fletch.
Dax Shepard
Chevy Chase, not 1995.
Monica Padman
Oh my God. 1985. My eyes.
Dax Shepard
Oopsies.
Monica Padman
Cr. The song Moon river while undergoing a humiliating invasive rectal examination by a doctor. Yeah, and there's a video.
Dax Shepard
Play it. Drop your shorts and bend over, Mitch Babar. There we go. Oh, no, really, we don't need to. I. We don't want to do that, so. You know, my kidneys feel a lot better in this position. Maybe it's just that I'm not doing any calisthenics. You know, if I did some sit ups in the morning or bent over like this, I'd probably feel 100% Moon River. Thank you, Doc. Ever serve time? Breathe easy. Breathe easy.
Monica Padman
Oh, wow. There's more.
Dax Shepard
I was able to get that policy. I know there's a history of cancer in the family. There is? Yeah, as a matter of fact. Using the whole fist. Doc, just relax. Okay, that's enough.
Monica Padman
That's funny. I've never seen that movie.
Dax Shepard
You haven't? Well, I'm going to show it to Lincoln if you want to join.
Monica Padman
Okay.
Dax Shepard
You know, it's in a three way check tie with my top comedies.
Monica Padman
I know you love it. What year did Chevy Chase's talk show start and how long did it run? 1993 on Fox. It was canceled after six weeks. 29 episodes. His deal was supposedly $3 million. It was the first late night talk show on Fox since the Late show hosted by Joan rivers in 98. Ben Arsenio hall and Ross Schaefer. And it was the last until 2006. Talk show with Spike Far debuted. Then it got canceled because they promised 5 to 6 million viewers nightly, but delivered fewer than 2. The show's audience was generally misbehaved and the chairwoman of Fox Broadcasting said, quote, the show was uncomfortable and embarrassing to watch.
Dax Shepard
Oh boy.
Monica Padman
Ouch.
Dax Shepard
Not a great review. I didn't see it, so I don't have an opinion.
Monica Padman
Okay, Santa Khan, now I'm going to pull back the curtain here, okay? We're doing some fact checks in advance.
Dax Shepard
Uh huh.
Monica Padman
Which means I didn't pull these facts.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Monica Padman
Santa Con is an annual bar crawl where?
Dax Shepard
I'm confused.
Monica Padman
You'll see.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Monica Padman
Santa is an annual bar crawl where people dress as Santa in hundreds of cities around the world. It came to the US in 96 to Portland, and in 2013 it was in 300 cities globally. 30,000 people participated in the New York City 2012 event in parentheses. I, Sophia, am embarrassed to say I have participated in it. In my defense, it Happened to land on my 21st birthday.
Dax Shepard
Oh, how fun. Sophia was a part of Santa Crawl.
Monica Padman
Santa Con.
Dax Shepard
Santa Con.
Monica Padman
Yeah. Yes, she was.
Dax Shepard
I wonder what the arrest rate is. It might be the highest per capita of any distinguished group.
Monica Padman
I just. Can you imagine seeing all these drunk Santas peen in their.
Dax Shepard
Their Santa pants and stuff?
Monica Padman
Do you think Sophia was wearing a Santa costume?
Dax Shepard
Yes, I do.
Monica Padman
Wow. Or an elf.
Dax Shepard
Or. Miss.
Monica Padman
You probably got to go with Santa.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. It's not elf. Kh.
Monica Padman
Right. It's not.
Dax Shepard
It's not Mrs. Claus. We didn't even give her a first. Although he doesn't have a first name, so Santa. That's his last name.
Monica Padman
No, Claus.
Dax Shepard
Sorry. Yes. Stand corrected. Well, but does she have a name?
Monica Padman
Saint Cl. I mean, yeah, St. Claus, but Santa Claus, and then she doesn't have one.
Dax Shepard
Mrs. Claude. Her first name is Mrs. Yeah.
Monica Padman
What is the Dakota Johnson, Tilda Swinton movie Luca directed? There are two. They're both in two.
Dax Shepard
Oh, my goodness.
Monica Padman
A Bigger Splash, which was in 2015, and Suspiria in 2018.
Dax Shepard
Have you seen either?
Monica Padman
No, but I did. Did want to see Suspiria because it. They're like dancers, and it's. I think it's scary.
Dax Shepard
Oh, Tom York did the soundtrack for Suspiria.
Monica Padman
Oh, cool.
Dax Shepard
You know who that is?
Monica Padman
Yeah. Oh, he's a big musician.
Dax Shepard
Oh, my God.
Ike Barinholtz
Wait, what?
Dax Shepard
Radiohead singer of Radiohead, you say? Tom. Y. Tom York. Oh, okay. York. Yeah.
Monica Padman
I knew it was a lead singer of a big band because Rob said that. That before.
Dax Shepard
Great. I. I like his independent stuff even more than Radiohead.
Monica Padman
Oh, wow.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Monica Padman
What was the. Okay, what was the band that did Stereophonic?
Dax Shepard
Oh, it was Will Butler who was in Arcade Fire.
Monica Padman
Arcade Fire, Okay. Because. Ding, ding, ding. Sarah Pigeon, who plays Carolyn Bassette Kennedy in Love Story, was in Stereophonic.
Dax Shepard
Oh, wow. Multi hyphenate.
Monica Padman
Yep. What is the Ryan Murphy with two Ryan Murphy. Ding, ding, ding. Didn't even mean to. With two Coopers in it. She couldn't find a movie with two Coopers in it. The. The Menendez story has Cooper Cock and Eric Menendez.
Dax Shepard
All right. Because there's two Coopers in his. In Ike's movie.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
Show Running Point, there's two actors named Cooper. Oh, I think. And I said, you got two Cooper Coopers. That's pretty rare.
Monica Padman
Oh, and he said.
Dax Shepard
He said Bradley Cooper was in Ryan Murphy. He was in Nip Tuck.
Monica Padman
Oh, that's right.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
Monica Padman
Early days. Now, I think you don't be Mad at me because I didn't check this fact. Okay, okay. The fact is, did the government go to Lamborghini and ask them to make the tractors? Was it Ducati?
Dax Shepard
Not tractors, military equipment. They were a tractor company that got asked to make military equipment.
Monica Padman
Okay, I'm just going to read what this says.
Dax Shepard
Okay, okay, okay.
Monica Padman
No. Lamborghini Trattori is an agricultural machinery manufacturer founded in 1948. Lamborghini was founded in 1963 after Ferrucci Lamborghini had a fight with Enzo Ferrari about the faulty clutch in his Ferrari 250 GT. Maybe what Dax is talking about. Following World War II, the Italian government took control of Ducati and shifted them into motorcycle manufacturing, starting with the Cucciolo moped.
Dax Shepard
That's what I'm thinking of.
Monica Padman
Right?
Dax Shepard
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's. That's it.
Monica Padman
I love it when Sophia does the facts.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, it's great.
Monica Padman
You can't get even mad at me.
Ike Barinholtz
Yeah.
Monica Padman
Okay. Fun facts about capybaras. Biggest rodent in the world.
Dax Shepard
150 pounds.
Monica Padman
Yep. 4ft long. 2ft tall.
Dax Shepard
4ft long.
Monica Padman
That's disgusting.
Dax Shepard
Your height. Well, virtually. It's more heavier than you. It's bigger than you. It is.
Monica Padman
It is heavier.
Dax Shepard
It's a rodent bigger than you.
Monica Padman
You. Okay. Found primarily in Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia, Argentina. Lives in rivers, lakes, marshes, flooded grassland. So they're great swimmers. Not like me. They practice. Oh. Eating their own poop.
Dax Shepard
Oh, wow.
Monica Padman
Yeah, they can live in groups of up to 100 in some places. You can have them as a pet.
Dax Shepard
Maybe I'll get one in Nashville. Roaming around the yard.
Monica Padman
Sophia added a little tell Kayla. Really? Cuoco.
Dax Shepard
Oh, smart. Smart.
Monica Padman
Oh, wow. It says supposedly there was something called a Jose Fortigaggia monster. An extinct rodent species that may have weighed over a thousand pounds.
Dax Shepard
Oh, yes.
Monica Padman
Ding, ding, ding. Wow. Probably right after Pangea.
Dax Shepard
Probably in the megafauna era of the Pleistocene when we had giant sloths and moly mammoths.
Monica Padman
Yeah. And yeah, probably was the caning of Michael Fay in Singapore because of chewing gum.
Dax Shepard
Oh, you're right. No.
Monica Padman
American student teenager Michael Fay did violate the vandalism act, but not with chewing gum. He was arrested for stealing road signs and vandalizing 18 cars over a 10 day period. In September 1993, he pled guilty, but later rescinded his plea to the vandalizing but not the roadsides. To avoid caning, his sentence was reduced from six to four can strikes.
Dax Shepard
Cane strikes.
Monica Padman
She forgot an E. And it was carried out in 1994. He also was sentenced to four months in jail and a fine of $3,500. At the time, equivalent to $2,230. The student who pleaded not guilty was sentenced to eight months in prison and 12 strokes. Interestingly, many months after returning to the US he suffered burns to his hands and face after a butane incident incited butane abuse in his rebel. In his rehabilitation program, he says that snuffing butane made him forget what happened in Singapore. Ooh. In 1992, Singapore did ban the sale, import, and manufacture of chewing gum to reduce vandalism and litter. Chewing gum is not legal in Singapore, but selling or importing can lead to fines in the thousands. Still true today. Oh, I'm so sorry. Chewing gum is not illegal in Singapore.
Dax Shepard
Oh, it's not.
Monica Padman
But selling or importing can lead to fines in the thousands. Still true today.
Dax Shepard
Okay, so you can't get it. You can't buy it. So it's.
Monica Padman
So it's virtually not. It's like tobacco Easter egg for something else. That another. Another episode.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. But I'm really glad my mother and I were still outlaws and smuggled gum in.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
Also, you present me with jail time versus caning Cane away.
Monica Padman
Oh, yeah.
Dax Shepard
Right.
Monica Padman
I agree.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. Let's get Kane.
Monica Padman
But I don't want any of it. No, I just wanted.
Dax Shepard
But I prefer it to. To. If I have incarceration.
Monica Padman
Yeah, that's it. Great job, Sophia. On the facts.
Dax Shepard
Love it. And we love. Like, Barinholtz.
Monica Padman
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
We sure do continue to love him. And he'll be back.
Monica Padman
He'll always be back.
Dax Shepard
For. We can count on it.
Monica Padman
All right.
Dax Shepard
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In this engaging return, award-winning actor, comedian, and producer Ike Barinholtz joins Dax Shepard and Monica Padman for his fourth visit. The conversation is classic Armchair: funny, self-deprecating, and insightful. They riff on medical misadventures, career highs and lows, shifts in Hollywood, parenting, male vulnerability, and Ike’s new podcast "Funny You Ask." The episode offers a blend of personal anecdotes and pop culture commentary, with a lively trivia segment and memorable banter.
Notable Quote:
"It tastes like poison that has gone bad." — Ike on colonoscopy prep (08:42)
Notable Exchange (on awards):
Ike: “Absolutely nothing has changed.”
Monica: “But does it make you feel like…now you’re in this elite?”
Ike: “Funny thing is, for years you’re like, I don’t give a [bleep] about award shows. Then you get nominated…you’re excited.” (20:35–21:06)
Ike discusses his role as Elon Musk in Luca Guadagnino’s film "Artificial."
Tears, grief, being dads to daughters, and how male vulnerability emerges with age.
The episode is a lively, warm, self-effacing exchange that celebrates the messiness of aging, parenting, and pursuing creative work in Hollywood. Ike and Dax's chemistry is unbeatable—they oscillate between hyper-specific cultural trivia, personal vulnerability, and broad universal observations about life and showbiz. The playful trivia game punctuates a thoughtful, inviting conversation that feels both intimate and hilarious—classic Armchair at its best.