Ep 390 – Japanese Skin Care

Summary

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ASCP Esty Talk – Ep 390: Japanese Skin Care

Date: April 29, 2026
Hosts: Ella Crestman & Maggie Stasik

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Ella Crestman and Maggie Stasik dive deep into Japanese skincare—its unique philosophy, historical roots, key ingredients, and how it differs from both Western and Korean beauty approaches. The discussion unpacks the ritualistic, barrier-focused mindset of Japanese skin care and its resurgence in a marketplace saturated with fast trends and aggressive correction.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. What Sets Japanese Skincare Apart?

• Minimalistic & Ritualistic
  • Japanese skincare is “often described as minimalistic... ritualistic... and it’s very much skin first.” (Ella, 02:25)
  • Emphasizes long-term skin health over short-term fixes. Focus on prevention, consistency, and barrier respect.
• Rooted in Culture
  • The Western interpretation often oversimplifies a deep cultural philosophy centered on maintenance, patience, and ritual.
  • “It's about prevention, consistency and barrier respect.” (Ella, 02:46)
• Support, Not Force
  • Japanese philosophy supports natural skin function rather than “forcing change... with modalities.” (Ella, 02:51)

2. Ingredient Spotlight & Product Philosophy

• Signature Ingredients (05:48)
  • Rice, rice bran, fermented extracts: Enhance absorption and antioxidant activity.
  • Green tea (extract & oil): Antioxidant-rich.
  • Seaweed/marine ingredients and mineral-rich waters.
  • Emphasis on gentle, layering hydration with light, elegant textures.
• Fermentation
  • “The fermentation enhances absorption and antioxidant activity... still active ingredients, just in a different thought process, a different jar if you will.” (Ella, 06:13)

3. A Historical Look at Japanese Skincare

• Innovative Legacy (06:42)
  • Brands like Shiseido were early global innovators (1980s–90s), introducing advanced formulation science, especially fermented yeast extracts.
  • “They're known for ingredient technology and refinement.” (Ella, 07:00)
• Shift with Social Media
  • 2010s: Online communities and social media increased global awareness.
  • Korean K-beauty briefly overshadowed J-beauty, but “Japanese skincare still maintained the reputation for formula sophistication and cosmetic elegance.” (Ella, 07:42)

4. Comparing Skincare Philosophies: West, Korea, Japan

(09:10 – 11:27)

• Western: Correction focused (e.g., targeting visible skin concerns, active ingredients like retinoids, AHAs/BHAs)
• Korean (K-beauty): Innovation, trend-driven, focus on instant glow and glass-skin. “They move really fast... but not necessarily how [the skin’s] working.”
• Japanese (J-beauty): Balance and longevity. Fewer steps, focus on barrier health, hydration layering, sustainable routines.
• “Western would be identify, target, correct. Korean would be layer, enhance, glow. And then Japanese would be maintain, support, and preserve.” (Ella, 11:06)

5. Generational Shifts and Skin Health Mindsets

(11:44 – 13:24)

• Trend cycles—Japanese ideals are “what’s old is new again.”
• Younger generations focus on ritual and self-preservation (mental, physical, and skin health).
• “Not your mother’s skincare… or else I would be using Clinique.” (Ella, 12:03)

6. Cosmetic Elegance: Why It Matters

• Japanese products are praised for being lightweight, comfortable, but high performing.
• “They’re lightweight, they absorb fast, and they give results without heaviness, which I love because it delivers comfort and performance.” (Ella, 15:13)

7. The Meaning of ‘Lotion’ & Toner in Japanese Skincare

(16:01 – 17:29)

• Difference between Western “toner” (meant to rebalance after alkaline cleansing) and Japanese “lotion” (hydrating layer, preps for deeper absorption).
• “The lotion is hydrating because it preps the skin and it boosts absorption, so it allows for better penetration of the next product.” (Ella, 16:04)

8. Consistency vs. Intensity: The Real Secret

• “Consistency outperforms intensity.” – Emphasizes the benefit of frequent, gentle treatments over dramatic, sporadic interventions.
• “Instead of fluffy, we have to think of them as foundational, because if the foundation is strong, any structure you build on top… has a better chance.” (Ella, 21:02)
• Barrier health is fundamental, even for advanced corrective treatments like peels or microneedling.

9. Ritual as Wellness Practice

• Engaging with skincare as a mindful, wellness-oriented daily ritual, not just a chore.
• “Taking those moments out for yourself is so enriching to your whole self, the wholeness. And I think what they're saying is it's a strong link to wellness by taking those times out.” (Ella, 18:32)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Western Over-Correction:
  “If we’re constantly correcting the problems, perhaps you’re creating additional ones.” (Ella, 03:54)
• Mindset Contrast:
  “A way to differentiate yourself as well is to be that practitioner who is nurturing and healing… you can absolutely turn back the hands of time by also rebuilding the barrier.” (Maggie, 05:12)
• Generational Humor:
  “Not your auntie's skincare necessarily. Or else I would be using Clinique.” (Ella, 12:00)
• Ritual Reflections:
  “I really don’t like washing my face at night… I’m just doing it. Hurry up, get through it…Versus having a 15 minute moment where I’m taking the time to do these things. And I like that.” (Ella, 18:16)
• Practical Guidance:
  “For the estheticians thinking of Japanese skincare, I would absolutely check into it because it helps think differently. More is not always better. Like sometimes less is best.” (Ella, 19:58)
• Foundational Skincare:
  “If you have a strong barrier, you’re gonna look good longer.” (Ella, 15:10)
• Industry Takeaway:
  “Healthy skin is rarely the result of dramatic interventions. Instead, it’s usually a result of patient, intentional and consistent care.” (Ella, 21:34)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:49 – 02:25: Introduction to Japanese skincare philosophy
• 05:48 – 06:34: Key ingredients & fermentation benefits
• 06:42 – 08:41: Historical context, Shiseido, and trend cycles
• 09:10 – 11:27: Juxtaposition of Western, Korean, and Japanese philosophies
• 13:27 – 15:13: Cosmetic elegance and lightweight product textures
• 16:01 – 17:29: Japanese concept of “lotion” vs Western “toner”
• 18:16 – 19:11: Personal ritual reflections, self-care in skincare
• 19:58 – 21:34: Advice for estheticians—consistency, barrier health, and foundational approach

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Final Thoughts

Ella and Maggie stress that Japanese skincare offers a vital paradigm shift:

• It’s not about always doing more or chasing trends, but about building strong, healthy skin over time through ritual, gentle ingredients, and barrier support.
• The episode urges estheticians to rethink “fluffy” foundational care as the essential first step for any results-driven practice.

Listeners are invited to share their J-beauty experiences via social media or email.

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Useful for Estheticians:

• Respect the barrier for lasting results
• Consistency trumps intensity—sustain habits and treatments
• Foundational is not fluffy—it's necessary

Philosophy Takeaway:
“The most effective skincare approach is also sometimes the most simple.” (Ella, 21:34)

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Transcript

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[Ella Crestman]

Hello and welcome to ASCP Essie Talk. I'm Ella Crestman, Licensed esthetician and Content Contributor for Associated Skincare Professionals.

[Maggie Stasik]

I am Maggie Stasik, licensed esthetician and ASCP's program director.

[Ella Crestman]

Oh my gosh. I'm so excited to talk about today's subject because it's interesting. It's so cool to watch things change and come in and go out and especially global trends. Today we are going to talk about Japanese skincare. Have you heard much about Japanese skincare?

[Maggie Stasik]

No, no. I am interested to hear about this as well and I want to know how this is any different or the same as K beauty.

[Ella Crestman]

Big difference. Let's talk about it.

[Maggie Stasik]

Okay.

[Ella Crestman]

Japanese skincare is often described as minimalistic, which I know we both like and also don't always subscribe to. It's ritualistic, which is something we've talked about and it's very much skin first. But what many people call Japanese skin care today is often a simplified western interpretation of a much deeper cultural philosophy. So Japanese skincare at its core is focused on long term skin health over short term correction. Which is interesting as we watch this movement go that way that this is the philosophy. It's about prevention, consistency and barrier respect. It supports natural skin function rather than forcing change with modalities. It's rooted in ritual, in balance and in patience. I already love it. I knew you would. It kind of reminded me about French philosophy. Remember we were talking about the French skincare philosophy?

[Maggie Stasik]

Yeah.

[Ella Crestman]

So the way that the Japanese approached skincare is there's a gentle cleansing, a layering of hydration with lightweight, elegant textures, but all of it with a barrier first mindset and then of course, daily sun application. The big idea behind the philosophy of Japanese skincare is to maintain skin quality rather than constantly correcting problems. Do you think this culture of constantly correcting, I say this as a corrective, as touted self proclaimed corrective esthetician, but if we're constantly correcting the problems, perhaps you're creating additional ones.

[Maggie Stasik]

I do, yeah. I think that our industry sometimes overdoes it. We do too much and that can strip the barrier. That can cause too much erythema, too much dehydration. All of those things can actually lead to the wrinkles we're trying to get rid of.

[Ella Crestman]

I think so too, but I don't. I wonder. This is a. A couple pods ago I was going to ask you a question and remember I said pin it. Maybe don't remember, but I wonder if we, the practitioners are conditioned to think that pain is gain, so to speak, that these different active modalities, or what we would say or categorize as active, is the bread and butter equals efficacy. Means we're distinct and different versus like practicing with this philosophy of a certain approach, a certain layering with certain products. It's fluff. I think it was like that where we would call that fluff before, but there's actual functional stability in that.

[Maggie Stasik]

Yeah, I think that consumers are perhaps conditioned to think no pain, no gain. And the practitioner definitely is conditioned to think that our bread and butter is all of these modalities and that is how we are differentiating. But a way to differentiate yourself as well is to be that practitioner who is nurturing and healing and rebuilding. And you can absolutely turn back the hands of time by also rebuilding the barrier and nurturing the skin. So that's an opportunity as well for some estheticians.

[Ella Crestman]

I think there's balance in all of it and not necessarily subscribing to one camp or the other. Which reminds me of the ingredients that are in Japanese skincare a little bit different. Rice or bran and fermented extracts. Not something we've seen a lot of, but such a great skin benefit. Green tea, both in an extract and in an oil. And then seaweed and marine ingredients, some of my favorite. And then mineral rich waters. Mineral minerals particularly are so important for the skin. The key concept is that the fermentation enhances absorption and and antioxidant activity. So using still active ingredients just In a different thought process, a different jar, if you will.

[Maggie Stasik]

All, all of these ingredients, I think we don't see them used here often and they seem exciting.

[Ella Crestman]

Yeah, it's just different for sure. So when did it seems like it might be new, but when did Japanese skincare become popular? Really? In the 1980s and 1990s because Japanese brands led early global innovations. Do you remember a brand called Shiseido? Oh yeah, yeah. Awesome. They introduced advanced formulation science way back in the day before anybody else was talking about it. They're known for ingredient technology and refinement and for specific ingredients like fermented yeast extracts, which was revolutionary at the time. In the 2010s, global awareness meant that there was a gaining of traction through online skincare communities where perhaps maybe more western brands took the forefront, or European brands at that time. Now with the WWW and the birth of influencers or social media, we started to see. Oh yeah, I remember those were great. But what happened is there was an overshadowing of fast moving Korean or the K beauty trends, but nonetheless, Japanese skincare still maintain the reputation for formula sophistication and cosmetic elegance. When you think of Japanese skincare, don't you just think of elegance or is it just me? What do you think of?

[Maggie Stasik]

Well, when I think of the Japanese culture, yeah, I think elegance.

[Ella Crestman]

Yeah. And it has to translate that way. So now here we are, 2026 and we are seeing this come back again. And the reason why is because we're also talking about barrier preservation, low inflammation treatments where before we were talking about burn it and turn it. And then also what's way more popular now than ever is the idea of long term skin health and paying attention to that additionally with preventative. So we're moving away from aggressive correction and towards sustainable skin management for sure.

[Maggie Stasik]

What I think is interesting is that it seems like we're kind of in this moment of what was old is new again. So of course, you know, Japanese skincare from the 80s and 90s is now becoming popular again, as were so many things from the 80s and 90s. And I think the pendulum always swings. So, you know, medical aesthetics still is very popular, but it had its moment and now we're swinging back towards barrier repair and nurturing the skin.

[Ella Crestman]

Yes, I can see that. And I think it's also important to look at how it compares. You said I want to know how it compares to K beauty because they're close right in the, in the world. So if we look at that and where we are right now, we would say tell Me if you agree with this or not, that western philosophy is correction focused.

[Maggie Stasik]

Yes.

[Ella Crestman]

Korean is innovation focused. Yeah. The way they use things, the kind of mass that they have, the ingredients that they bring in. And then in contrast, Japanese skincare would be balanced and longevity focused.

[Maggie Stasik]

Yeah, that all jives for me for sure.

[Ella Crestman]

So if we look at the core approach in western skincare, dermatology and cosmetic science based or targeting of visible concerns. The primary focus is acne, hyperpigmentation, collagen stimulation, aging concerns. And we use high performing actives like retinoids or AHAs and BHAs or vitamin C in different forms and peptides. In contrast, Japanese side, very balanced preventative, looking to maintain the skin versus constantly changing it. The focus is skin health barrier, long term function and there's fewer intentional steps. But layered hydration, just looking at those two differences, I think there's a way to incorporate. Let's change some things and then let's balance it out. The difference between K Beauty and Japanese skincare would be they're way more innovative, they're trend driven, they move really fast. They focus on hydration like the glass skin, what the skin looks like, but not necessarily how it's working. They have glass skin ampoules where Japanese has lotion, what they, you know, they call lotion hydrating toners.

[Maggie Stasik]

Oh, interesting.

[Ella Crestman]

They call it lotion. They have double cleansing. Very much ritual base, which I love. So Western would be identify target. Correct. Korean would be layer enhanced glow. And then Japanese would be maintain, support and preserve. Yeah.

[Maggie Stasik]

All of this is very interesting and to hear it laid out, it really makes sense. And I think depending on your philosophy as an esthetician, you either fit into one of these categories or you're pulling from really all of them.

[Ella Crestman]

I think so. Especially when we can. If we were to sum it up, Western skin care would ask how do we fix this? Korean skin care would ask what's new and what's exciting in Japanese skincare would ask how do we maintain healthy skin over time.

[Maggie Stasik]

Yeah. And let me ask you too, do you think generation is a factor?

[Ella Crestman]

Yes, for sure. I think you say what's old is new again. I think also we're looking for something different. Not your mother's skincare. Right. Not your auntie's skincare necessarily. Or else I would be using Clinique. What would you be using?

[Maggie Stasik]

It would be Clinique.

[Ella Crestman]

Clinique and Noxzema.

[Maggie Stasik]

Yeah, Avon.

[Ella Crestman]

Oh, skin so soft. But we look for things that match. We also came up in a generation that was go, go Go, go, go. And generations behind us are very much, I don't want to say ritual, but the focus is different. Focus on themselves in the best way possible. They're working on preserving their mental health, preserving their physical health in a way that I wasn't in my twenties. So preserving their. The longevity of their skin health would make sense here. Hold that thought. We'll be right back.

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[Ella Crestman]

Okay, here we go. Let's get back to the podcast.

[Maggie Stasik]

As I'm hearing these mindsets, the one that identifies with me is maintain, support, preserve. But also when I read that, I think, oh God, am I old?

[Ella Crestman]

You know, is it too late?

[Maggie Stasik]

Yeah, yeah. And then also I think, okay, layer, enhance, glow. To me that reads like a younger person, a 20 something wants to layer, enhance and glow. Or somebody who identifies, targets and corrects is maybe somebody who is really focused on anti aging. I imagine that could be any age. But I also look at that as somebody who is starting to age.

[Ella Crestman]

Yeah, I think we're all aging from birth. Well, yeah, that's what I tell people too. Let's fight it as much as we can. But it's very much Western is outside outside. And Japanese, I think, is still anti aging. It's just inside. And you see it in all of their culture, really through their food, through their habits, through the way they take care of their things and their communities and such. So Japanese skincare as a rising trend, very much about longevity. So still anti aging, even though you're coming away from that term, you're focusing more on long term skin function, not how's it going to look right now? How can it look better right now, but how can it look better for longer? Kind of like, I don't know, a good, I don't want to say band aiding, but you know how we just like quick fixes. Oh, good, I look good now. Come back in 30 days. Instead of I stay looking good, I stay on ready. Because you're still focusing on collagen preservation, antioxidants, daily spf. But barrier maintenance. If you have a strong barrier, you're gonna look good longer.

[Maggie Stasik]

Yeah.

[Ella Crestman]

The other thing is the cosmetic elegance of these products. They're lightweight, they absorb fast, and they give results without heaviness, which I love because it delivers comfort and performance. I don't like thick, heavy products. I don't know about you.

[Maggie Stasik]

No, I don't. But I still like to have a feel.

[Ella Crestman]

Yeah. Like, feel like it's hydrated. Yeah.

[Maggie Stasik]

I don't like products that feel milky or watery.

[Ella Crestman]

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[Ella Crestman]

Yeah. Very, very interesting. And then the other thing they have is that lotion culture they're calling toner lotion, where they're putting it on before. And I think we've gotten away. Myself, I've gotten away from toners.

[Maggie Stasik]

Yeah.

[Ella Crestman]

Because the word toners means you're going to reestablish the PH level of the skin. Because traditional or early adaptations of cleansers were very much alkaline, so you had to have something to bring it back. But in this case, the lotion is hydrating because it preps the skin and it boosts absorption, so it allows for better penetration of the next product to come on. So we see it coming back in Western skincare culture. A lot of pads, A lot of. Are you seeing that? Like the. The pads and the disc. So it's a toner, essentially, just in a different format. Yeah.

[Maggie Stasik]

So two things come to mind. First, back in the 90s, Stridex pads were a thing for me, and I have an affinity for that kind of thing stuff still. But as an esthetician, I abandoned the use of toners because, like you're saying, you know, we had this mindset that, okay, you tone to balance ph, but then it was taught. No, we have evolved. Chemistry has evolved. You don't need to tone unless you're applying an active product. And so anytime I am toning now, it is because maybe I need a salicylic toner or glycolic toner, or I. I want to create some change in my skin.

[Ella Crestman]

Movement.

[Maggie Stasik]

Yeah.

[Ella Crestman]

So this is. Those are movement off. Theirs is movement in.

[Maggie Stasik]

Yeah, Good distinction.

[Ella Crestman]

Interesting. The other part about is the ritual aspect of it is consistency versus intensity. What that could mean for estheticians is job security. You have to come back more free. And I like that model even better than having someone come four times a year. I want them to come every four to six weeks, because I do have that consistent option. I am finding I am Doing a lot more barrier reparative style treatments now than I used to. And I do feel that that is because I'm into it right now. But also the mood, the vibes of the clientele need it because of the stress level, because the anxiety for whatever reason, that's primary right now. So anyways, also daily care as a mindful practice instead of just like, I really don't like washing my face at night.

[Maggie Stasik]

Oh.

[Ella Crestman]

It wakes me back up. Oh, interesting. When I'm winding down. Yeah. If it's earlier in the night, I'm about it, but if it's later, I'm not.

[Maggie Stasik]

Yeah.

[Ella Crestman]

And so that. Right. There is an inconsistency of when do I. When I wash my face, I'm just doing it. Hurry up, get through it, brush your teeth and let's go lay down. Versus having a 15 minute moment where I'm taking the time to do these things. And I like that. I'd like to adapt that because I do think that taking those moments out for yourself is so enriching to your whole self, the wholeness. And I think what they're saying is it's a strong link to wellness by taking those times out. So I'd like to get into that. I go through phases where I'm like, oh yeah, I can do that and then abandon it. Do you have rituals?

[Maggie Stasik]

Yeah, and washing my face is one of them. Like I can not go to bed if I have not washed my face. I'm the opposite of you. I look forward to that moment at night. It's like setting the stage that I'm ready to sleep.

[Ella Crestman]

I like that. I'm going to, I'm going to work on that.

[Maggie Stasik]

Like alternatively in the morning I'd be fine if I didn't wash my face.

[Ella Crestman]

That's when I want to wash my face because that's like I'm clean, I'm ready to go. Which is kind of gross if you think about it. The alternative, like I'm dirty, I'm going to go to. I mean, I'm not like I'm washing my face, I just don't like it. I use wipes sometimes with a makeup remover, washcloths. You know what I mean? I do that part. But interesting. We're different. That's why it works.

[Maggie Stasik]

Yeah.

[Ella Crestman]

For the estheticians thinking of Japanese skincare, I would absolutely check into it because it helps think differently. More is not always better. Like sometimes less is best. Also barrier health drives results for any treatment, any treatment that you have, even if you are the One that's like, nope, I only want to do chemical peels or I only want to do nano treatments or laser treatments. None of that's gonna be lasting if you don't have a strong barrier before and after. So important. And then consistency outperforms intensity. So I think it's out there. You have to just recognize it. It may not be a Japanese company, but they're there.

[Maggie Stasik]

Yeah. I think to your point here about consistency outperforms intensity, very, very true. And even if your focus is on things like chemical peeling, for instance, or microneedling, great. You still need your base treatments for those clients, to your point, who are perhaps not ready to receive or are in the healing phase.

[Ella Crestman]

Yeah. Foundational.

[Maggie Stasik]

Yeah.

[Ella Crestman]

Then I think that's how we have to. Instead of fluffy, we have to think of them as foundational, because if the foundation is strong, that any structure you build on top of that has a better chance. But if you have. If you're trying to build a skyscraper on sand alone, it's going to fall. And that's how I think of those advanced treatments is like a building. Right. So interesting. One thing's for sure, Japanese skincare reminds us that healthy skin is rarely the result of dramatic interventions. Instead, it's usually a result of patient, intentional and consistent care. In an industry that often chases the newest ingredient or trend, this philosophy offers a powerful reminder that sometimes the most effective skincare approach is also the most simple. Listeners, we really want to hear from you. Are you using Japanese skincare or are you open to it? Reach out via Instagram, Facebook, or send us an [e-mail] in the meantime, thank you for listening to ASCP STTalk. For more information on this episode, or for ways to connect with Maggie or myself, or to learn more about ascp, check out the show notes and stay tuned for the next episode of ASCPSI Talk.