In this episode of The Australian Finance Podcast, your hosts Owen Rask and Gemma Mitchell are joined by money systems expert Andrew Fisher for Episode 3 of the Christian Hull Hot Money Mess series.

After unpacking Christian’s money story and coaching framework, this episode dives into the power of data and why understanding your numbers can completely change how you feel about money.

Because whether you feel like a total money mess or think you’ve got things mostly sorted, confidence with money starts by understanding what’s actually happening behind the scenes.

They cover:

– Why data helps turn money goals into momentum

– Christian Hull’s $2 million tiny home goal and how to track it

– Why spreadsheets aren’t for everyone (and what works instead)

– The power of monthly money check-ins

– Why net worth matters more than your bank balance

– How seeing the full picture changes behaviour

– Using financial dashboards to stay motivated and on track

– How to model big life decisions before they happen

– Why “can I afford it?” is the wrong question to ask

– Finding hidden spending leaks without tracking every dollar forever

– How better spending categories can reveal surprising habits

– The simple systems that make managing money easier

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Topics Covered

– Recap: Christian Hull’s Hot Money Mess journey so far

– Meet Andrew Fisher: money systems, behaviour and financial data

– Christian’s $2 million tiny home goal and building a money dashboard around real outcomes

– Why visual tracking makes big goals feel real and achievable

– Monthly money check-ins: the habit that matters most

– Why motivation disappears when progress feels invisible

– Net worth tracking: why it matters (even if you don’t feel wealthy)

– Seeing the full financial picture, not just fragments

– How dashboards can shift behaviour and reduce money stress

– Modelling major life decisions before they happen

– Why loan approval doesn’t always equal affordability

– Forecasting cash flow and stress-testing decisions

– Spending leaks: the hidden categories quietly costing you money

– Why categories tell stories about your habits

– How better budgeting categories lead to better decisions

– Practical ways to track problem spending without overwhelm

Episode resources

– Buy Gemma’s book “The Money Reset”

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