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Matei Zatreanu is the CEO and founder of System2, a data science firm that helps institutional investors make better decision. His family immigrated from Romania, but for the first few years, his parents had to leave him and his brother temporarily behind as they settled themselves in their new country.In our conversation, we explored how early hardship, like growing up separated by your parents, builds a “figure it out” mentality, why storytelling is one of the most underrated leadership skills, and how something as simple as sharing a meal can become the foundation of culture and trust inside an organization.We went deep into the meaning of profit, the tradeoffs entrepreneurs face when considering outside capital, and the importance of understanding your own motivations before chasing growth, money, or status.Contact Dino at: dino@al4ep.comWebsites:sstm2.comal4ep.comAdditional Guest Links:Podcast: on SpotifyOn YouTube: youtube.com/@system2podLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/matei-zatreanu/Authentic Leadership For Everyday People / Dino CattaneoDino on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dinocattaneoPodcast Instagram – @al4edp Podcast Twitter – @al4edpPodcast Facebook: facebook.com/al4edpMusicSusan Cattaneo: susancattaneo.bandcamp.com

Eric Stone is the CEO and founder of Clear Path Ventures and the author of Jumpstart Your Workplace Culture.Eric started as a management trainee at Enterprise Rent-A-Car and spent more than 25 years rising through the ranks to become a senior executive in one of the company’s top-performing regions. Along the way, he led large teams across retail and administrative environments, built high-performance cultures, and developed leaders who went on to succeed at every level of the organization.In this episode, we talk about:What you learn from building a career inside one organization for decadesHow to hire and develop great salespeopleWhy belief is the foundation of effective sellingHow to build “culture carriers” inside your organizationThe sequencing of communication during major changeContact Dino at: dino@al4ep.comWebsites:clearpathventures.comal4ep.comAdditional Guest Links:Website ericdstone.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/eric-stone-clear-pathFacebook ProfileIntagram: @clearpathventures_YouTube: www.youtube.com/@ericdstone1Authentic Leadership For Everyday People / Dino CattaneoDino on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dinocattaneoPodcast Instagram – @al4edp Podcast Twitter – @al4edpPodcast Facebook: facebook.com/al4edpMusicSusan Cattaneo: susancattaneo.bandcamp.com

Today's guest is Lily Zheng, a strategist and consultant who has spent the last decade working with organizations of every size — from small nonprofits to Fortune 500 companies — helping them build workplaces that actually work for everyone. In a field often clouded by ideology, misinformation, and polarization, Lily brings something refreshingly different: data, systems thinking, and practical results.They were a guest on the podcast before, so today we just focus on their new book, Fixing Fairness: Four Tenets to Transform Diversity Backlash Into Progress for All , Lily argues that the conversation around DEI has gone off track — not because fairness doesn’t matter, but because we’ve failed to communicate and implement it effectively. Instead of slogans or superficial programs, they offer FAIR - a framework built around measurable outcomes, systems change, coalition-building, and true win-win solutions.In this conversation, we explore:Why being “pro-diversity” isn’t the same as creating fair systemsThe surprising data gap between support for diversity and belief in DEI programsWhat actually works — and what has failed — over 60 years of workplace reformHow leaders can build coalitions across differenceAnd why fairness may be the language that can move us forwardContact Dino at: dino@al4ep.comWebsites:lilyzheng.coal4ep.comAdditional Guest Links:Lily on AL4EPLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lilyzheng308Instagram: @lilyzheng308Lily on SubstackBooks:Fixing FairnessReconstructing DEI DEI DeconstructedAuthentic Leadership For Everyday People / Dino CattaneoDino on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dinocattaneoPodcast Instagram – @al4edp Podcast Twitter – @al4edpPodcast Facebook: facebook.com/al4edpMusicSusan Cattaneo: susancattaneo.bandcamp.com

This is part 2 of our conversation with Thiago Da Costa, serial entrepreneur and founder and CEO of a Datagrid AI, a company that creates agent and connectors to help companies work more efficiently.In part one we explored Thiago’s journey as a serial founder, and what it takes to scale companies from zero to meaningful revenue.In this second part, we go deeper into what truly separates great CEOs from dangerous ones. We talk about transparency, capital discipline, customer obsession, and the growing risk of the celebrity CEO—leaders who master distribution and attention before they build real products. Tiago shares candid perspectives on motivation, resilience, and why founders who aren’t deeply anchored to the problem they’re solving will eventually burn out.We also shift into a broader discussion on AI—why this moment is fundamentally different from past technology waves, where real opportunities still exist, and why so many AI startups are destined to fail.Contact Dino at: dino@al4ep.comWebsites:al4ep.comdatagrid.aiAdditional Guest Links:LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/thiagocosta2Corporate LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/datagrid-ai/Authentic Leadership For Everyday People / Dino CattaneoDino on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dinocattaneoPodcast Instagram – @al4edp Podcast Twitter – @al4edpPodcast Facebook: facebook.com/al4edpMusicSusan Cattaneo: susancattaneo.bandcamp.com

Francesca Gargaglia is the COO and co-founder of Amity, a tech company that builds ready to use social features that companies can easily incorporate in their websites and app to create their own communities. What’s unique about Amity is that even though the company was started very recently, it already has a very global feel: it has over 250 employees, of 30 nationalities, and it has offices in Thailand, Italy, the UK and the US. The companymirrors the personality and experience of Francesca. She is a relatively young founder, but she has lived and worked in four continents already.In our conversation we discuss how her experiences working abroad in several countries have shaped her into the leader she is, and helped her face the challenges of building a globally distributed high-growth startup.KEY TAKEAWAYS[01:36] - What makes Amity unique. [02:25] - Francesca shares how her travel led to the introductions that birthed Amity.[04:05] - The travel experience that changed everything for Francesca. [06:20] - Francesca shares how the variety of experiences in her career and her travels shaped her as a leader. [08:00] - How the elements of being a passionate expert fed into her work at startup Amity. [09:56] - Francesca shares how studying law helped her provide a structured framework for the growing team around her. [11:17] - How her curiosity and desire to create a significant impact led to Francesca's entrepreneurial path. [14:08] - Amity's fast trek growth from its roots in Bangkok to Milan, London, and the US. [15:34] - How Amity grew from a group of passionate people who wanted to change the world of social networking to a company bound by a set of core values.[18:00] - Francesca shares how the name Amity, meaning friendship, is embedded in the company's culture. [19:22] - Measuring success by measuring the impact of Amity's product on the end user and by personal growth. [21:30] - How being a woman in a male-dominated industry made Francesca more eager to keep pushing forward to prove herself. [23:46] - Francesca shares her secret sauce of leadership. [25:55] - Why she hires people with a focus on soft skills and a flair for accountability. [28:28] - Amity's mission to help organizations curate a positive social network to deliver a quality experience to their community. [31:13] - Where you can learn more about Amity and its mission to help companies worldwide use their technology to connect. [31:47] - How Francesca's background and love of travel feed into the multicultural diversity of Amity.[33:20] -Francesca shares the business expression she finds the most inauthentic. [34:21] - Francesca shares her food obsession, that's a nod to her Italian culture. [36:41] - CreditsContactDino at: dino@al4ep.comWebsites:al4ep.com or authenticleadershipforeverydaypeople.comhttps://www.amity.co/ Other Francesca Gargaglia links:Instagram: @fragargaglia LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/francescagargaglia AmityInstagram: @amity_hq LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/amity-hq/ YouTube: @Amity - YouTube Authentic Leadership For Everyday People / Dino CattaneoDino on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dinocattaneoPodcast Instagram – @al4edp Podcast Twitter – @al4edp Podcast Facebook: facebook.com/al4edpMusicWild Irish Moon by Susan Cattaneo Brave and Wild Album by Susan Cattaneo Also Mentioned:The Social Dilemma