Martina Hodges-Schell has spent thirty years moving through design, from advertising in Germany at the dawn of the web, through Amazon and Yahoo in their early mobile years, to pioneering UX consultancies and a six-year run helping organisations build genuinely collaborative product teams. She is also an equine coach, working with horses as unfiltered mirrors for how leaders actually show up, beneath whatever they intend to project. It is an unusual range, and it turns out to be exactly the point.

This conversation moves between the very grounded and the genuinely surprising. We talk about what a horse can teach a leader that a coaching conversation over coffee cannot, about the boulder you cannot see around until years later when the fog finally clears, and about what it actually means to be a recovering perfectionist when your entire career has rewarded exactly that instinct. Martina has a particular gift for naming the gap between what organisations say they want from uncertainty and what they actually do to squeeze it out of every process. By the end, you understand why she thinks of uncertainty not as a problem to solve but as the material she works with.

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