Coi Leray on Love, Motherhood & Being “Really Her”

Summary

Podcast Summary: Coi Leray on Love, Motherhood & Being “Really Her”

Podcast: Baby, this is Keke Palmer
Host: Keke Palmer
Guest: Coi Leray
Release Date: April 7, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode features an in-depth, candid conversation between Keke Palmer and Grammy-nominated rapper Coi Leray, diving into Coi’s evolution as an artist, her entry into motherhood, personal reinvention, and her bold, multifaceted approach to music and life. The discussion spans mental health, familial relationships, navigating the music industry, her new music era, and her philosophies on love and success.

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Key Topics & Highlights

1. Getting to Know Coi Leray: Astrological Signs, Upbringing & Identity

• Astrological Signs:

  • Keke and Coi bond over astrology, with Coi identifying as a Taurus but also speculating she has Cancer rising energy.

    “I feel like the biggest Taurus in the world.” – Coi Leray (02:16)

• Multicultural Roots:

  • Coi shares pride in her Puerto Rican, Black, and Cape Verdean heritage and notes her desire to answer questions about her background in interviews.

    “Puerto Rican, black, Cape Verdean. … The ones that know, know.” – Coi (04:05)

  • Coi describes her nanny teaching her daughter Spanish and how food and family traditions shape her connection to her roots.

• Childhood Dualities:

  • Growing up between luxury and struggle, Coi likens herself to “Hannah Montana,” appreciating both privilege and hardship as formative.

    “I lived the best of both worlds… it really feels like to struggle.” – Coi (08:01)

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2. Influences & Musical Evolution

• Eclectic Musical Upbringing:

  • Coi grew up in the era of Kidz Bop and listened to everything from Lil Wayne and Black Eyed Peas to Avril Lavigne and Maroon 5.
  • She credits her love of “character and fusion” to these influences, enabling her stylistic versatility.

    “You really will hop into a character type vibe… you gave me character.” – Keke (09:10)

• Genre Fusion & Studio Process:

  • Coi describes her process as driven by mood: “I wanna pop my…[but] I could be going through some real life stuff and want to vent.”

    “I could go be this badass girl…or I could be on my…Cardi B… Or I could be … on my Katy Perry.” – Coi (26:06)

• Career Milestones:

  • Early song “Huddy” got her noticed, leading to a record deal, though it wasn't a chart hit.
  • Breakout hit was “No More Parties” ft. Lil Durk, followed by the viral success “Players.”
  • Coi discusses her approach to virality via social leaks and audience feedback.

    “If I would post a snippet… they blew up.” – Coi (11:25)

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3. Family Dynamics & Personal Growth

• Family Background:

  • Coi is the only girl in a family of five brothers, which shaped her tomboy persona and sense of resilience.
  • Her parents’ split and subsequent financial hardship made her a self-described “natural born hustler.”

    “I'm going to make nothing out of something. I'm gonna get it by any means.” – Coi (14:01)

• Work Experience & Education:

  • Worked various jobs, including a kids’ party venue and supermarket checkout, gaining hustle and people skills.
  • Dropped out of school due to necessity, attempted to get her GED but found it daunting.
  • Encourages listeners to finish school for the long-term benefits.

    “I recommend everybody to just finish high school. … You're in no rush to just be grown.” – Coi (19:00)

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4. Music Industry Realities & Defining Success

• Visions of Success:

  • Coi’s idea of success evolved from seeking global superstardom to valuing autonomy and connection with loyal fans.

    “I'm okay with knowing that I can sell out my own tour… Like NBA Youngboy or Playboy Cardi.” – Coi (21:53)

  • She prioritizes “diversifying” and “not being a slave to it.”

• Industry Politics & Labels:

  • Opens up about feeling restricted by industry politics, lack of access to fashion/cultural events, and having to be her own advocate.

    “No one's gonna market myself better than me… I can’t dwell on what I don't have.” – Coi (36:19)

• Branding & Business Savvy:

  • Keke notes how Coi thinks as a brand, not just as an artist, which Coi credits partly to her upbringing and being surrounded by boys (daring, hands-on, jack-of-all-trades).

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5. Motherhood, Love & Personal Reinvention

• Motherhood’s Impact:

  • Coi reflects on pregnancy and giving birth via C-section, sharing the physical and emotional realities.
  • Motherhood brought her fresh clarity and patience, transforming her as an artist, friend, daughter, and partner.

    “Motherhood has taught me patience… You want to give [your child] the best life you can ever think possible.” – Coi (49:40)

• Romantic Life:

  • Coi candidly discusses falling for media personality Justin, being hesitant yet letting love in after meeting on his podcast.

    “The moment I see him, like, we locked eyes… I fell for his personality… I’ve never been with anyone ever, that poured into me the way he did.” – Coi (61:30 – 62:44)

  • She now feels confident sharing her relationship in public, saying, “You shouldn’t hide your significant other … let the world know.” (63:15)

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6. Mental Health & Community Impact

• Personal Wellbeing:

  • The gym, outdoor activities, and staying active are important for mental peace.

    “The moment you just are stagnant is when the chaos comes because you sit with your own thoughts.” – Coi (56:55)

• Camp Courage:

  • Coi started Camp Courage to empower inner-city youth, inspired by her favorite cartoon Courage the Cowardly Dog, symbolizing bravery amid fear.

    “Even though Courage was scared, he was fearless every time.” – Coi (54:51)

  • She feels artists have a responsibility to give back beyond entertainment.

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7. Navigating Womanhood & Hip-Hop Culture

• Industry Realities:

  • Coi and Keke discuss the double standards in female rap—how industry and media often fuel controversy for business reasons.

    “If you ask me, it seemed like these labels are behind the female controversy… they see it pushes the records.” – Keke referencing Coi's tweet (39:32)

• Advice from Peers:

  • Cardi B gave Coi private advice during pregnancy: “Do what’s best for you and what you want to do. … Don’t let nobody change your mind.” (38:54)

• Asserting Her Worth:

  • Coi openly affirms herself, responding to accusations of “being difficult” in the industry by standing strong for her values and vision.

    “You’re only not going to be easy to work with when… they don’t want you to do what they want you to do.” – Coi (52:49)

  • She wants other women to give themselves grace and not compare their motherhood or journey.

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8. Fun: Female Rap Trivia & Nostalgia

• The show ends with Keke and Coi playing a lighthearted, multi-generational female rap trivia game, celebrating rap icons like Lauryn Hill, Queen Latifah, Missy Elliott, Meg Thee Stallion, Eve, and Roxanne Shante.

  “Queen Latifah is everything to me… Who do you look up to? Queen Latifah.” – Keke (66:25)

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Notable Quotes

• On resilience:

  “As much as I go through, I can’t be broken. And I’m really her. Like, I just feel like I’m a badass shield with some Louboutins.” – Coi (07:15)

• On industry validation:

  “You can go on the airport… and the moment you hear your songs on the airplane… you made it.” – Coi (34:40)

• On motherhood:

  “I look at [my mom] so different since I had a child.” – Coi (50:28)

• On competition among women:

  “I'm competitive, but at the end of the competition, I'll still be like, yo, we did this together.” – Coi (40:19)

• On affirming herself despite criticism:

  "You know, because at one point people try to say, like, coilerae is a little difficult…But I learned this. You're only not going to be easy to work with when they don’t want you to do what they want you to do." – Coi (52:49)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Astrological talk & early life: 01:47 – 08:23
• Musical influences & early career: 08:24 – 11:25
• Family, hustling & education: 11:37 – 19:00
• Breaking into music industry, “Huddy,” “No More Parties”: 20:20 – 21:37
• Success redefined, brand strategy, viral moments: 21:53 – 36:19
• Motherhood and pregnancy stories: 46:31 – 50:48
• Navigating the hip hop industry as a woman: 39:32 – 42:14
• Camp Courage & giving back: 53:53 – 55:32
• Nostalgia & trivia game: 64:11 – 68:26

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Final Thoughts

Keke Palmer and Coi Leray’s candid, energetic dialogue offers a deep dive into not just the music business, but the personal triumphs and challenges behind the headlines. Coi emerges as raw, self-aware, and transformative, embodying what it means to grow publicly while staying true to oneself. Listeners are left inspired by her journey, empowered by her honesty, and anticipating her next musical chapter.

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For more on Coi Leray’s story and new music, search “Baby, this is Keke Palmer” on your preferred podcast platform, or follow @kekepalmerpodcast on Instagram & TikTok.

Transcript

[A]

My next guest is a Grammy nominated rapper whose record players climbed the Billboard charts and took over TikTok. She's hit the biggest stage, she's gone viral and she's earned co signs from Busta Rhymes, Beyonce, Cardi B and more. But what I respect most about Coi Lerae is how she's grown in real time. From being open about mental health to stepping into motherhood and now entering a bold new era of music. She keeps evolving and that's what this space is. Evolution, honesty, becoming. So we're about to get into all of that and more. Cause baby this is geeky ballmer. No matter what we doin in the car, just chillin pop on Amazon music. Sit back and listen. Life, love, sex, science, hovering it all, especially the bad. Cause money always evolved. No matter what it is we gon make it make sense Nothing else will do but kick it with the homies and kings. So grab you a drink and a snack you enjoy and get into the vibe that only wants you know it's your girl baby it's just. This is Kiki, baby, this is Kiki Palma. Yeah. Please welcome Coi Leray. Hey, girl. You look so cute.

[B]

Hey. Oh my God, you are beautiful.

[A]

Right there. Right back at you, girl. Last time I seen you, we was together on New Year's.

[B]

New Year's. Living our best life, girl. Living too, girl.

[A]

After that I fell right asleep in the car. I was so ma. Girl, I'm so happy to have you on the show because this is supposed to be happening in 2025, but obviously you were pregnant. A lot of things was going on. You look so good. Thank you. Mommy to Miyoko.

[B]

She's here. She's here.

[A]

That's crazy. I get to meet her.

[B]

Yes. I'm have her say hi to you guys. I'm so excited. She's so freaking cute. Thank you.

[A]

Okay, but let's get into these pre show pull up questions to get into your mind a little bit.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So you're a Taurus.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But you don't know your sun, moon and rising.

[B]

I don't. And I'm ashamed of one of them that I think that I am. What is it do you think a cancer.

[A]

You don't like cancer energy?

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

You do give cancer because it's very. Love a girl.

[B]

Cancers are very. Lover girl are so emotional. I'm a cancer. Rising cancer is one of those. My rising moon, it's one of them. But I know for sure it's in there.

[A]

Do you feel very Taurus? You give Tourists to me as well.

[B]

I feel like the biggest tourists in the world.

[A]

Tourists are always somewhere looking cute.

[B]

And we're the best. Like, we really are. Like everybody says, like, I love a Taurus.

[A]

Stop. Because what do they do wrong, though? Honestly? They're really. They really are one of the signs that you don't have too much crazy to say. Except for they say y' all stubborn.

[B]

We're stubborn, but we keep it real. Yeah. Yeah, we keep.

[A]

So you do feel stubborn a little bit.

[B]

I'm very stubborn, for sure.

[A]

Okay. What are you most grateful for today? Waking up in nice weather.

[B]

Girl.

[A]

The weather has been crazy, though, for a while, though.

[B]

Yeah. Because, you know, I moved back to Jersey, so to be out here in LA during this crazy winter storm.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm like.

[A]

So you still live in Jersey?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. You never thought about moving to New York or la?

[B]

I lived out here for four years, but I moved back when I had got pregnant to be closer to my mom. I had bought a house like, five minutes ago.

[A]

Congrats on that.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And. But I've been out here working on new music and getting ready for the new year, so.

[A]

And you're feeling good in la. It feels good to be back as a mom.

[B]

Sunlight at a pool and Jacuzzi. I can go swimming any day. I love it here.

[A]

I love that. Okay. And then a relationship or friendship, non negotiable for you, I forgive. I don't for. So once somebody crosses you, they're done. Is that what you mean by that?

[B]

No, Like, I. I could forgive you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, honestly, you really got to do some crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy, sneaky stuff to me to make me hate you, but I don't have no hate in my heart. I. I could forgive you and not deal with you at the same time.

[A]

How does that go in your friendship? Sometimes? Do you feel like people really push you to the edge because they know you're so forgiving? Because I feel like that happens to me.

[B]

Yeah. They take my kindness for weakness. But it's all good because you could be forgiven and never hear from me again. So it's all good. Yeah.

[A]

What's a question you wished you were asked more in interviews? My nationality, but I know. Puerto Rican, black, Cape Verdean. Yes, yes. And I feel like you do share that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. You do share. Every now and then, if people just get a look in.

[B]

I feel like, yes. Like, the ones that know, know. But I feel like that is the main question that nobody asks.

[A]

How do you feel like, you relate to all three of those.

[B]

Well, I'm definitely got my Puerto Rican side because I love Spanish food. Number one, my grandpa is. You know, he speaks Spanish.

[A]

Do you speak a little Quito?

[B]

I don't, but I feel like. Pere de la albano, por favor.

[A]

Come on, Rosie.

[B]

Paris. I learned that in school. That's the only thing that stuck with me especially. But you know what's so cool? My nanny is actually Spanish, and she teaches Miyoko Spanish. So she goes, bravo. I don't know if bravo is really a Spanish word, but I know she goes, bravo. And then Yoko claps to Bravo. She be like, besito. I'm like, oh, my gosh.

[A]

Besito. That's kiss, I think. Yeah, Besito. So cute. Who is someone you met that made you feel starstruck? I'm actually surprised by this. LeBron James. Are you a basketball fan, James?

[B]

I feel like not. I'm a big sports fan. My mom is big on sports, okay? Especially football. Big Patriots from Boston. Tom Brady. Ain't things been the same since Tom Brady left? But I will say I'm forever. Patriots nation forever. Celtics nation forever. However, LeBron has something about him that not only as a. Like, not only as a basketball star and an athlete. He's a great father. He's a great. Just a friend.

[A]

Good brand and representation.

[B]

Yeah, like, like you, girl.

[A]

Stop la.

[B]

Like, real. Like, literally. Like, literally the Jack of all trades. Like, just can't do no wrong in my eyes at all.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. So when you met Levron, where were you guys at? You were at the game. First of all, you look. Oh, my gosh. Real quick. You looked so cute at the game. I don't know which game this was, but you had. You know, because a lot of times people overdo it at the games, but you, like, actually look like you was going to a game, but it was

[B]

still sun, you know, Celtics versus Lakers. I was so happy to be there.

[A]

It was like a casual, cute look, but you was still cute.

[B]

A little Chanel sweater, little Chanel sweats. I like. It's so crazy because everybody be like, coy. I'm stuck between coy, put some clothes on and coy. You have on too much.

[A]

Not.

[B]

It's never too much clothes, but everybody tells me that I need to wear clothes.

[A]

Well, it goes back to them early days, which I first. When I first met you in the pre. Pre. We talk about the hoodie era. We all love that queen because it reminded us of left eye. You know what I mean, it was like the industry had never been seen. Like, it was. Everything was so crazy. Always sexualized, blah, blah, blah. So, like, when you came on the scene, everybody's always thinking about that because we were, like, coy with them braids.

[B]

She had a million girlfriends that I didn't even know I had at that time. Hey, ladies.

[A]

We'll get into that. We'll get into that. Okay, the last question was, what's a mantra you live and why? I'm really her.

[B]

Really her.

[A]

I feel like I've heard you say this too.

[B]

I, I. It's so crazy because when I was writing that, I said, yo. I just tweeted this morning, I woke up and really had to remind myself, I'm that girl.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Like, you know, obviously, I start my day off with prayer, mandatory, but, man, I need that reminder, especially as a new mom, you know, coming, you know, in this industry, wanting to drop new music and beat your last.

[A]

What makes you feel like that I'm really her? Like, what does that. Like, how does that. What are those things that make you know that?

[B]

Because as much as I go through, I can't be broken. And I'm really her. Like, I feel like I'm just a shield. Like a badass shield with some Louboutins. Like, just imagine me as just a shield with Louboutins.

[A]

Yeah, you do feel like. You do feel, like, tough, but also still sweet at the same time.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

Let's take it back to Boston, where you're from.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So you're born in Boston, Massachusetts, but you grew up in Hackensack.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, so let's just tell me about Lil Coy growing up, how you fell in love with music. What was life like back for you growing up?

[B]

So I feel like I called myself Hannah Montana.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You was putting on wigs. No, I. I'm stupid. No. But I felt like I lived the best of both worlds.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Come on.

[B]

Best of both worlds. I lived the best of both worlds. I got to experience a side at one time where it was just a luxury, nice place, swimming pools and Jacuzzis. And then I also got to experience the side of what it really feels like to struggle.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And be starving. And I think both of those made me who I am and molded to be that her that I talk about.

[A]

You know, what were some of your favorite artists growing up that you watched and helped shape your sound?

[B]

You would say, oh, my God, girl, it's so crazy. Cause I feel like I grew up in an era Of Kidz Bop. Right. There was a time where like. And don't get it twisted, I love all genres and music, but it was just this time where there was no genre. Like Kidz Bop had Lil Wayne. Yes. Black Eyed Peas. Oh my gosh. I lived in the Maroon 5, like all on one project. I felt like, so Avril Lavigne and I was a big cartoon fan, so whatever celebrities and.

[A]

But I honestly feel like I can see that in you as an artist that you really will hop into a character type vibe. That was one of the things that drew me to you. When I first hit you up to be on my song Sticky, I was like, I love everything you're bringing because you gave me character. And then you were hip hop, but I still got that alternative vibe from you. She was a little punk rock with it when it came to your music. And I do think this is something that everybody loves about you. You play with a lot of fusion. How do you go into that when you're figuring out doing a song or coming up with something?

[B]

Well, it all depends. Recently I was just in the studio and I'm like, I wanna pop my. Yeah, summer's coming. I wanna be in the clubs and still have that booty shaking pop vibe. Throw me in the, you know what I'm saying? Algorithm with the pop that playlist. But I could be going through some real life stuff and then I wanna kind of just vent. So the beat changes, the vibes change. Just the other day I was in the studio with Mr. Hudson, shout out Ben. And he has the guitar, he pulling up guitar.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we start rocking up.

[A]

Yes, I love that.

[B]

Yeah, I love the rock. I'm like, let me just try. I don't even know if people like,

[A]

you gotta come with that.

[B]

So you wanna do bend them knees.

[A]

I love. I live for the E Girl movement and I think we need that fusion when we think about hip hop. Like, when you were coming onto the scene, one of the things you got most viral initially was would you say Huddie?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, what did you say coming in, what type of artist you wanted to be? What did you want to bring to the game?

[B]

I came in raw. I came in gritty. I came in not following rules, doing what I want. And I think that's what kind of got me here today. I remember Huddie wasn't even like on the Billboard charts, wasn't making a lot of noise. It was in Jersey. I would say, yeah, and Huddie's what got my deal. That's What? You know, Monty and Avery, that's when they saw the potential from Huddie. And I kind of just took that raw and grittiness, just being this tomboy from Jersey wanting to pop my. The guys to be able to sing my lyrics feel comfortably. Yeah. And then I started just as I stayed in the studio, I just always created, created, created, created. But what stuck was the turnt vibes. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And, like, if I would post a snippet because I would leak all my songs on my hit records, I would say on my Billboard records, is because when I leaked it, they, like, blew up. Right.

[A]

And what you mean by leaked it?

[B]

Like, I'll put a snippet online, and then the traction that the snippet started getting, it would tell me, like, okay, let's go. Let's. We got to go. We got to drop.

[A]

We love a little piloting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you're the only girl in a family of six I have.

[B]

Okay. So I have five brothers in total.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All four. Me and my four brothers grew up in a household together. Yeah. Until we did it. My mom has. It's so confusing because it's like, I hate saying half brothers because they're still like my brothers in the day, but I got three on my mom's side, two on my dad's side.

[A]

But you grew up with the four.

[B]

We grew up, yeah.

[A]

And one of them was in the Huddie video, Right? Was one of your brothers in there?

[B]

Was one of them in Huddie? I don't think so.

[A]

I could be wrong, but I'm wondering how just growing up being, like, the girl with a whole bunch of boys, how that impacted just your vibe, your swag, and how you want to be seen.

[B]

I always felt, like, unstoppable, untouchable. I felt like I was the most toughest, biggest fee 5 foam person, and I was this small, little, skinny little thing, and I just felt like, you know, I was the biggest thing in the world with them because boys are rough. We always played fight. I grew up off tough love, so all that girly stuff, nails and hair and makeup, I didn't have. Well, it wasn't into until I got older. And then, you know, me and my mom were, like, always besties. So out of the boys, it was just me and my mom, and I'm like, you know what, Mom?

[A]

Yeah. I grew up with nine uncles, and I remember they had me climbing the wall. Nine uncles, girls. So I was. I felt the same vibe. And then I got into the real world. I'm Like, y' all not gonna go

[B]

up for me, right? Like, right.

[A]

The men in my family, they go up for me. Why y' all not going up for me? Girl, I was gagged.

[B]

Like, literally. What?

[A]

But you said that after your parents split up, things got really difficult. Just. Yeah, you know, I guess. Money discrepancy or just how it was living, like, how was. How old were you and how did that, like, affect your life all around?

[B]

So I was about 9, 10 years old when things took a turn. My mom and dad were together for about like 10 years and then they broke up. I only remember so much from my childhood, from like first grade to. Well, from first. Since first grade, I would say. And it's so funny because being in the industry, a lot of people think I have like this silver spoon and all this other stuff. And I know so much about, you know, my dad and what he's done. But in reality, I've learned more than I've ever known while being in the industry for the past six years.

[A]

And also a totally different time.

[B]

It's a totally different time. But I say that to say I don't know how he got it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I don't know how he lost it. Right, right. Me and him weren't close enough to have those conversations. I would say to try to understand, like, okay, where. How did you start this massive, you know, unbelievable, incredible moment in hip hop.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then how did you lose it? I feel like now that I'm older, we will be able to have a sit down one day and have that conversation.

[A]

I mean, when you entered and you started getting into the game, was how much of it was he a part of? Did he know or he saw you? He just. I don't. I only know from the outside looking in.

[B]

I'm the same. I'm the outside looking in. And honestly, you know, being the only girl and my dad always having to work, we didn't have the best relationship. So we didn't. We couldn't have those conversations. But I will say, when everything was gone though, we had to figure it out. And I'm so grateful for those times. Cause it molded me to this hustler. Like, one thing about me, and I don't know if it's a tourist thing, but I do feel like I am a natural born hustler and I'm gonna make nothing out of something. I'm gonna get it by any means. I might complain a little bit, but I'm going to go ahead and complain while I'm doing it at the same time. Because everybody's gonna do a little complaining.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, it's natural. It's only natural. It helps let off steam. You even worked a couple 9 to 5 job. What was like one of your craziest jobs and your most fun jobs?

[B]

My. My most fun job was working at this like kids party place. People would book parties like for their kids and we would have to be like, bring out the glo guns and bring out the pizza, bring out the cotton candy. I don't know. It was a fun environment. Kids running around hitting they head. It was just a bunch of things that you just had to be attentive to. The worst job, I would say, which I wouldn't say is worse because any. Any you getting money. I don't knock no hustle. I'm be honest. You can go pot that for real change. And I ain't gonna judge you. But I.

[A]

That's a hard job.

[B]

That's a hard. Okay. But I will say working at the supermarket, it was very repetitive. And as a cashier, you were bored. I was bored. I was actually like, I wanted everybody to come to my line. Cause I knew the faster I and the more I didn't watch time. Like I dined a dash up in the movie. Yeah.

[A]

Literally to ready next customer.

[B]

Literally.

[A]

When Huddie started to pick up and you decided to leave school, you later called that time, like humbling.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So like what did that season teach you and what made you want to go back in 2021 to finish school?

[B]

Well, I dropped out of high school in, I would say the beginning or towards the mid 10th grade. And I dropped out because an eviction notice came on that door.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I had to choose between work and school. The job that I actually landed that was paying me really good was in sales and it was from 9 to 7 and school was obviously from 8 to 3, so I couldn't do both.

[A]

Working in sales at 17.

[B]

16.

[A]

16.

[B]

Yeah. I was there like, hello, this is Coy Collins. Am I speaking with John, the owner of ABC Trucking?

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I'd be like, your business listing is outdated. What time do you open? Is.

[A]

He'd be like, I open at 5:00'. Clock.

[B]

Oh, well, how are your customers supposed to know this? I used to be running it up. Girl, that's crazy cold calling boots.

[A]

Hello.

[B]

My money.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What made you want to go back in 2021?

[B]

Well, I actually, between us, everybody that's watching this in the world, I dropped out and then I started working and then I obviously Just kept working because I wanted my own. I ended up moving out early, getting my own car and everything. This is before I started doing music. But it got to a point where when I, I didn't want to drop out. First of all, I wanted to go to college. I always felt like I could be like some physical therapist or something. I didn't have any long term goals as a kid.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I knew I wanted to graduate in my mind. And during those times, everybody that went to college was successful.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I never went and got my ged, nor have I graduated still. And I went to go try to take my ged and it was really hard.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I opened the book and it was like trigonometry, the first book. Trigonometry, yo, bro. I didn't even learn that in ninth grade. I opened the first page, I seen trigonometry and I said, oh yeah. Meanwhile, it's a class full of people.

[A]

Yeah, it's a lot. I've thought about going back to school. So I didn't really. It was the same thing for me. I was a child entertainer. My family was supporting them with my jobs. It got to a point where it's like, okay, am I going to keep working? I'm going to go to school. And I was like, well, I don't want us to have to like go all the way backwards. So I'm going to keep working. So I tested out of high school. I don't even know what I got really. Like, I don't know what you call it. It was just like a test out, kind of like an emancipation kind of thing, you know. And I've thought about going back to college or going just to get more education and you know, but it's, it's

[B]

totally different, you know, so different now I feel like these days you really have to. And because I dropped out and I didn't have a diploma, I always felt like I had to keep myself in books.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But one thing I will regret, not graduating high school. And I recommend everybody to just finish high school. If you look back at it, it's so quick. Like, yeah, you're in no rush to just be grown. Like literally have the best teenage years of your life. Because when reality hits, girl, it hits. And that makes me think about like

[A]

Ferris Bueller's Day Off. You ever seen that movie? No, it's like this old John Hughes movie. But the whole movie is really about kind of what you just said. Like, I think when you look at like high school or even college, aside from like learning and getting an education, which is great. Like, you get to like, up, I think, with us or people like us. Like, a lot of people have had to grow up fast. Like, we. We couldn't really mess up, right? Like, we could, but it might cost people stuff.

[B]

And I feel like in. In school you get to learn communication skills, you get to learn vocabulary. Something that I still till this day struggle with is my vocab being an amazing songwriter.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And I love writing songs. I love, you know, I'm not. But.

[A]

But you're just talking about words. I mean, just words.

[B]

You know, you'll hear me a lot. Ask on a regular day, like, what does that word mean? Like, somebody could just be having a full blown conversation. I would have to stop them and be like, wait, what does that mean?

[A]

We about to pull out that Scrabble. Words with Friends.

[B]

I play that. I play that. That's another good one.

[A]

It's a good little game.

[B]

I'm like on level 180.

[A]

You got your first RIAA certified platinum hit. Okay. And first Billboard entry was no More Parties featuring Lil Durk.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

What does that record mean to you and Lil Durk?

[B]

Free Durk. Free Durk, man. Free Durk. No More Parties was one of the most craziest times of my life. It was where I felt like, yo, you have to. You're either gonna do it or you're not. You're either gonna be big and successful and people are gonna stream your music or you're not. It's. You have one option here. It's either you're gonna do this music thing or go do something else. And I had to tell myself, like, yo, I gotta put the pain in the music. I can't run and hide, you know, I always wanted to protect other people and be cognizant of what I say in my songs. But then I was like, you know what? I'm gonna be very vulnerable. So if you listen to no More Parties, I explained my life story and, you know, it actually became one of my biggest breakout records. Hitting that Hot 100 on Billboard. I was so excited. And it created TikTok, you know, shout out no More Parties. No More Parties built a platform for all the young, talented artists out there that could showcase themselves and their music. Yeah, come on, come on.

[A]

She said I'm a pioneer.

[B]

Shout out TikTok for helping me. You know what I'm saying? We did this together.

[A]

What does success look like for you? Like, is it. I just want to make sure I'm touring. Is it. Hey, I want my streaming numbers to go crazy. Is it, you know, what does it, what is, how do you define it?

[B]

There was at some point where I felt like I wanted to be the biggest artist in the world. I wanted to be like Mount Rushmore, you know, faces. But I felt like over time it's so real. This industry will reveal itself over time and you kind of start, start looking at things and people a little different. And I started realizing now like I, of course I want to be a global superstar. I think everybody wants to be a global superstar, right? But I'm okay with knowing that I can sell out my own tour, right. I'm okay with knowing who my fans are, who's gonna come to the pop ups. It's kind of like a big inspiration would be like NBA Youngboy or Playboy Cardi. Yes, right. Like they're for sure two massive artists who can sit there and sell out arenas, sell out, sell tickets, sell merch, die hard fans. You see, Youngboy had like the, it's like Michael Jackson at the time where everybody was in the streets chasing him and he's just like police escorted everywhere. And you know, you don't, you might, but however, you won't see him at the Met Galage, you won't see him at the Red Carpets and stuff and I think that's okay, you know?

[A]

Yes, I feel that it's perfectly fine. I think a lot of times we confuse visibility with success. Like to me, success is like being able to do what I love, make my money off of it, go on a couple vacations if I want, you know what I'm saying? I ain't a slave to it, but have a little bit of freedom and just, yeah, being able to just stay diverse. Like I'm always diversifying.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are there other things outside of music that interest you? Like, would you see yourself acting? Would you see yourself?

[B]

I see myself acting. I could tap into the acting world, but. And I've done a little acting in my, my, my teenage days. I got a taste of it. The only thing is. And tell me if I'm wrong. Those call times, the 6:00am The 6:00am Keke, how do you do that?

[A]

Girl? You just, you just do it. You be like, I gotta do this is my job. You know what I mean? Like when you was doing the sales, right, it's like, I gotta just do it, you know, and then by the time you get outta here and makeup and everything, you done woke up, you know, you ready, but it's like you like it. You know what I Mean, it's what you would wanna do, so that's what pushes you to do it.

[B]

Speaking of acting, I'm sorry, but I see you on this billboard all over California. It is sickening. It's like you and four other people poking out a gate. The verbs Y.

[A]

Yes. I'm like, oh my God, the poking out the gate. Cuz it's so lit.

[B]

Like it's so eye catching. I'm like, oh my God, I can't wait. I love it. Girl.

[A]

I'm so happy about that show. We literally just got a billion views on Peacock, which I can't even. I'm like, how the hell you this global superstar?

[B]

The moment you get you a billboard driving regular, that's how you know you freaking one of the ones. Mount Rushmore. Nobody can mess with you carrying.

[A]

Oh my gosh. Oh my girl, I love you. That's why I love when we did our song Sticky Like I was like, yo, she dope real artist to artist. Because I remember I just hit you up and I was like, would you want to get on this? And you was like, yeah, like, like, let's go. And I remember you up on top

[B]

of that car and us on top of the counters. And she. Yeah, that was a good time.

[A]

It was such a good time.

[B]

It is such a great song.

[A]

Yes. Shout out to Sticki. Get into it, y', all, if y' all have it. But I have to let you know, one of the like dopest records of yours that gagged me like that through the spider verse.

[B]

Oh, self love.

[A]

I love that song. That's pretty much. That's the title track. And Metro shout out. Metro shout out Stara. She's so dope. How did that collaboration come about? I love your voice on that song.

[B]

Thank you. During the time Saint, he was like, this is the second spider verse that we have done. I was on the soundtrack of the first one and then the second one, you know, Metro was doing yes. And I couldn't wait to work with Metro. I got the call like, yo, Metro wants you on this song Self love. It's gonna be into the spider verse so good. And I'm like, who the hell's not gonna cut anything for Metro? Like, where's Metro grooming? Like he really one of them ones. He know what he be doing when it comes to the music. So I was like, hell yeah. It's a dream come true.

[A]

Oh my gosh, I just love that. I mean, you've collaborated with Gunna, you gotta hit with David Guetta. You hopped On Sabrina Komperta's Nonsense. Your range is crazy. What do you attribute your versatility to? I.

[B]

It's so crazy because I struggle with my versatility every day in the studio. I don't know if I want to sing and be, like, this specific. Like, it's like, okay, I could go be this badass girl and be like, yeah, like, very pop star and like, you know, my Katy Perry. Because I already say I'm the female black Katy Perry. You know what I'm saying? Like, I pop my. Like, I'm Katy Perry for sure. Or I could be on my. You feel me? Like, Cardi B. Keep raw, you know, Like Cardi Megan, all the. All the rap girls, for real. Like, they keep it raw, you know? And even when they do get vulnerable, they still give you that raw, raw, raw. Not saying they're not pop, but.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it's more straight hip hop.

[B]

It's more straight, like, to the point to where I'll just be going so far left sometimes. And I don't know if that's my lane, because I'll get a lot of noise over here, but then I won't get a lot of noise on the soft side. But then I'll get more engagement on my R and B sexy koi.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But then my turnt rap coi, they're like, all right, we missed the melodic. So I'm. I'm. I'm going through an identity crisis right now.

[A]

I mean, how do you decide what vibe you want to jump into next? Because now we're entering this Pink Sweats era, which I think is playing with, like, some masculine, feminine, like, which, again, we go back to OG Coy. We live for that. Like, yo, she low key on that left thigh. She coming at you with that T energy. How are you deciding that this was the vibe you wanted to get into in 2026? And what can we expect from it? Well, baby, this is icky Palma. Yeah. Do you hear that, baby? A warm getaway must be calling my name, because spring has officially sprung. We're saying bye bye to endless winter layers and hello to sunny beach season. I finally have a little time off coming up, and with my crazy schedule, that's rare. So I'm thinking of a long weekend escape with my family. The question is coastal Santa Barbara vibes or desert stay in Palm Springs. All I know is that when I'm planning a trip, booking a stay on Airbnb just makes everything easier. I just love having a whole house to ourselves. We can each have our own Space. No cramped hotel rooms to worry about and come together for fun movie marathons or epic game nights. In the living room, everyone can be as loud as they want because things can get competitive, y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

And let's face it, a meal is better shared around a table than a bed, especially when it's my dad's cooking. But here's the real magic we get to play. Locals wandering through neighborhood parks and popping into all the best family owned, under the radar restaurants on the recommendations of our lovely super host. Mm. You already know I love a good food tour moment. So if you're planning spring or summer getaways with your favorite people, find a stay on Airbnb. Trust me, that home away from home feeling can be topped.

[B]

I would say becoming a mom, your mind just comes a little bit more clearer, don't it? Foggier and clearer at the same time. The fog comes clear because you're not

[A]

who you used to be. That's the foggy part.

[B]

Yeah. You're not.

[A]

And you're like, so what stays and what goes?

[B]

Yeah. And I feel like, you know, I'm 28. I'll be 29 this year. Yeah. And I love that, you know, I came in the game when I was 21.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And I just feel like this new era is just very. I'm her. I'm her. And then also, too, I seen somebody tweet this. I don't know who it was, but this was a tweet yesterday, and it was like, I'm not for everybody, and that's okay. And I think that stuck with me, and I think that's the vibe that I'm going to into this new music, new album, new era is I'm not for everybody, and that is okay. The ones that get it, get it. The ones that don't, don't. At the end of the day, I make sure I just move with, you know, as a genuine person. Keep God first, you know, and just work my ass off. Everything else gonna just come with it.

[A]

Sampling has been a big part of your DNA. Do you love it still? Are you not, like, how do you feel about it? Do we get some more samples coming in in 2026?

[B]

I love a sample. Can I get a sample? I love a sample. I do samples. Cool. Because it's so dope to be able to recreate something. Like, for example, right now, my new song that I'm about to drop my milkshake.

[A]

Bring on a this girl. How did you flip this? Also you with Pharrell in general Feels like a match.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Have y' all worked together?

[B]

One.

[A]

Y' all did, right. Didn't something. I saw something with y'.

[B]

All. We had a song not in store come out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

For the doodle verse.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That he's done. And then we also have, like, six unreleased songs and my phone.

[A]

You guys feel like a very dope match to me.

[B]

He's amazing.

[A]

So make sure I bring out of the boys to the yard. So what? So, yeah. This is crazy. I can't wait to hear this girl.

[B]

That is so exciting.

[A]

It's so fun. You know who else I feel like I don't know who you did anything with. I don't know if you did anything with them, but Missy Elliot, I love her.

[B]

I got to be in a studio with her in a real session with her at some point. And she's also an amazing. She's dope. Yeah, she's amazing.

[A]

Who else would you want to work with that you haven't worked with yet?

[B]

The Weeknd. I really want a song with the Weeknd.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

Yeah. I feel like Sabrina Carpenter owes me a swap. I need one with Sabrina again, for sure. I love her.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, the music is so dope.

[B]

I just think her sex appeal and my sex appeal together on stage could just really make, like.

[A]

It goes very doting very fast.

[B]

Right.

[A]

She was daring with that cover art on the knees.

[B]

Ooh, girl.

[A]

I was like, okay, Ms. Ma'. Am.

[B]

I know that's right. I was. Let's go, Sabrina.

[A]

On mine, it would be the reverse. Get down.

[B]

No. Like this girl.

[A]

Straight up, leg square. No. Oh, my gosh. That's me giving that Jada energy. Anyway, players was a huge moment for you. Your first Billboard top 10. Yes. A Grammy nomination. You dropped remixes for the song. Even had Busta Rhymes. That's like, OG royalty.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When you saw it take off, did you feel it coming? Like, do you feel like, you know when you got a hit? Whatever that means?

[B]

I feel like everything I make is fire. It's just all about, like, when I. You know, what the people want. So I. That's why I teach, because in my mind, I'm like, I'm a number one fan. Like, I'm going to, if any. Let's let everything fly. But, you know, you got to. You got to talk to the fans. So I was talking to them, and when I leaked players, it went crazy. However, players dropped in December, and it didn't blow up till February. A lot of people don't realize that dynamic. Also, too, December is Christmas time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The label shut down. No, no. No more coins. They don't want to spend no money. The budget is closed. And they opened the budget right on up for players in the middle of Christmas, couple days before Christmas, and made it happen for sure.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But then you also said to Complex that during that time, you were a little bit unhappy due to things happening so fast. So what was happening so fast that we didn't see?

[B]

Well, I felt like now that I look back, back on things, I feel like I was at a place where, you know, you can't grow if people around you aren't growing with you. And I got to a, you know, I'm on top 10 billboard. You know how hard it is to get a top 10 record solo. Like, that's like. And still to this day, I want to beat it, you know, top time. Well, now I want a number one. I want a top five. And it's so hard. And I feel like during those times, I didn't get to maximize off my opportunity. You know, I never went to the Met galas. I never, you know, when it came to the award shows, me being a part of the award shows, other than just a red carpet, I really wanted to be in those award shows. Being a fashion girly, really, you know, it was so much I wanted to do that. I felt like I. I couldn't maximize on the opportunity because of the things that were going on behind the scenes.

[A]

And was it just kind of like not having the proper support? Because obviously, like, people. Hopefully people understand, like, when it comes to, like, the Met galas, there's got to be a designer that wants you. Somebody's got to want you at their table. You know, if you want to be X, Y, and Z, you got to have the glam. You got to be the budgets. Like, so what was actually some of those things stopping you just not having those political things in place or.

[B]

I felt like, yeah, like a bunch a mix of everything. You know, I even got to that point where I even learned, like, yo, you being nice is going to take you to the number one. And I even changed. I felt like my. My attitude and, you know, the things that I've learned within. And it still didn't get me to where I'm like, yo, I have a top 10 record in the world. I'm global. You can go on the airport.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, and the moment you hear your songs on the airplane. But you made it. Yeah. And I'm on the airplane playlist. I'm in malls. I'm in, you know, forever 21. And I'm just like, yo, something's not making any sense. Why aren't the campaigns getting bigger? How come the brands aren't getting bigger? You know, and as artists, we are just the artists. You know, we gotta have people out there pushing and still cold calling. Like when I was back in sales and picking up that phone, like, yo, what's up? What's up?

[A]

And my mom still sends out emails still, you know, like a freaking newsletter. Yes. Keke Palmer is doing this lately. And it's like, you are me, Sharon, what are you doing?

[B]

And a lot of people, I feel like they depended on my organic viralness.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

And I hate that. Yeah. Because I deserve. I don't want to keep making videos in my bathroom and then going viral just for you to now want to come to the store.

[A]

Well, because they make the money from that streaming. They make the money for being where they is. They don't make all the money when it comes to your touring, when it come to your merch, when it come to you getting a campaign with Dior. So it ain't on they mind. So it's very important what you're saying, because at the end of the day, those labels are just wanna. Gonna do what. Gonna get their money right now.

[B]

Right, Right.

[A]

And then it's up to us to figure out how to maximize our brand. And some of the things you're saying is so interesting to me because I wonder how that affects how your brand has evolved in terms of just like. I hate to use this word, but commercial. What people are expecting from female rappers, what people are expecting from women. So how, like, on that journey, how did you grapple with, like, I'm all these vibes, but, like, how do I stay true to myself but then also give myself a brand that I feel like I can scale?

[B]

I stopped looking and I kind of just. I felt like I was looking everywhere else but within.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then I had a reality check and I had to realize, I don't know, you would just have these days where you just wake up and you're like, hold on, on. I don't know if what blunt I was smoking that day or what was going on that day, but I was just like, no one's gonna market myself better than me. And I can't dwell on what I don't have. And I. And be mad at what I don't have because that makes me feel very ungrateful because there is so many beautiful blessings that's going on. Yes. So it Was playing mind tricks. I was talking to myself a lot. Just playing mind tricks with myself. Like, all right, you know, don't be ungrateful because God is blessing you with a lot. Even though you're unhappy and you feel like you deserve more, Keep pushing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And, you know, I'm still on that wave, and I feel like it's. It's. It's gotten me still this far. You know, I can still say that I'm very much in the top. Top female artist category. And really, her. And, you know, I'm a Taurus. I'm a competitor. Like, nobody's with me, like, and I'm standing on that.

[A]

I mean, in 2024. Let's talk about the Grammys really quick. Beyonce sent you flowers. Beyonce showed your girl.

[B]

I love. Yes.

[A]

I mean, real talk. Where were you at when you found out?

[B]

I was at home. I had opened up for her with DJ Khaled.

[A]

Which is crazy.

[B]

Which is crazy. Cause, no, I wasn't there.

[A]

I think I was actually there. I was at that show watching.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Yeah, I saw you.

[B]

And I had the blue pixie. Yes.

[A]

And you were eating. I live for that girl. You can wear any hairstyle, though. I ain't gonna lie. But I do love the pixie.

[B]

Yes. The blue pixie was a vibe for sure. It was fun. Beyonce is amazing. Then I seen her and Jay Z at a Michael Rubin's event twice, and she came up to me and she was like, oh, my God. Like, how's mommyhood? And I was like, it's going so good. Wait. I'm like, how do you know? Oh, you're watching.

[A]

You see me. Honestly, I feel like she really. I remember back day we used to think that she had, like, a little low key Snapchat page. She watching everybody. She got to know what the culture is doing because she got to know what we need.

[B]

And at some point, I'm like, somebody's running. It's. This account is ran by management. No, no, no. Y' all be surprised. Beyonce is out there watching. Honey, don't do her. She's very much in tune. I love you, B.

[A]

Who have been some of the sisters in hip hop that have lifted you up and supported you, you know, over the course of your career.

[B]

Well, shout out Cardi B. She was there during my pregnancy. During the pregnancy, yeah. Like, she helped. She gave me some really amazing advice.

[A]

I thought she was almost. She was in the hospital.

[B]

I'm like, she wasn't in the hospital, but she gave me some really, really great advice. Before I had my baby and after I had my baby, you would share

[A]

it, or was it like, low key,

[B]

super private, just more so? Like, you do what is best for you and what you want to do. That's exactly what her advice was. Don't let nobody change your mind on that. Do what you want to do in your heart. And I kind of. I stuck by that, you know, being pregnant and vulnerable and, you know, first pregnancy. It's a lot us women, we.

[A]

And as a career woman. Yeah. And in hip hop, like, I do remember when Cardi B at the top of her career, decided to have a baby, and everybody was like, she's done.

[B]

She's done.

[A]

And even after her most recent, when she had these kids, they're like, she's dead again, done. She just keep on moving.

[B]

And she just popped on now and hopped right back on tour so long,

[A]

you know what I mean? So I think that's really dope of her, you know. Now, back in 2024, you tweeted. If you ask me, it seemed like these labels are behind the female controversy. They see it pushes the records. I mean, I feel like we all kind of think that, you know, even if we're not in the industry, like, I think it seems at a certain point it gets wwe. But at that time for you, when you tweeted it, what was happening behind the scenes for you?

[B]

I just feel like you gotta think about it. Like, none of us female artists are from the same hoods. Schools grew up together. We don't. You know, I don't even think anybody's messing with anybody's boyfriends behind the scenes. That would do it. That would do it. And maybe they are. Who knows? But I don't think so. And I feel like, yo, there has to be some reason why these people are turning on each other so much. It just don't make sense. Like, I don't have a hate bone in my body. I'm competitive, but at the end of the competition, I'll still be like, yo, we did this together. Like, I couldn't do it without you at the end of the day. And I feel like everybody wants to feel like that too. I feel like all the girls want to feel like that, but there's so much trust issues and BS that goes on behind the scenes that it. It creates, you know, that wall that we all put up. And it makes. You might feel like you do have to defend yourself or you might be feeling attacked in some way. I'm not gonna lie. At the end of this next Song that I'm about to drop. I'm popping my. I'm like, get in the booth. You know, I ain't worried you can't dress. You know, I ain't worried you can't rap. You know, I ain't worried. Like, yeah, I'm popping it, but it's just.

[A]

I was ready for that. She said she ain't worried. I'm in the back. She said she not worried. You heard any words?

[B]

I know that is right.

[A]

So I mean. Cause my thing is, it's interesting too. Like whenever girls beef in rap, it's like, oh my gosh, it becomes so critical. But I mean, obviously we've had some crazy beefs even with male rap where got nuts. But I think like back in the day, a lot of times too, like, it seemed like more like sparring and it also was like a way to. It was almost like wwe. Almost like how twitch streamers pretend that they're arguing in order to bring attention to each other projects. Do you feel like that could be used more in female rap if the women actually agree to like, would you.

[B]

I feel like I'm down to do a little like, ain't nothing wrong with a. It's like a versus right? But at the same time, true talent gonna outshine everything. I feel like it's more than to our pen and it's more. It's more to being a female artist than your pen and just your music. And that's where I think the competitiveness comes from. Cuz it's like I could do a song and we could rap battle each other. But then it's like, all right, who gonna do the. Who going to look the best on the red carpets? I feel like. Or who going have that fashion week locked in? Or who's going to do the. Who's going to be the best performer and really take it there.

[A]

I think it's so interesting how you are so brand minded and then I think about what your dad created in culture. Yeah, you guys are very aligned when it comes to like aesthetic and just like what it means to have a whole overall cultural reflection.

[B]

Yeah, that's. It's in my blood flow.

[A]

Yeah, that's like. Because I'm like. You don't talk like just like, I'm just an artist. You talk like somebody that sees yourself as a brand.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. That's.

[A]

Where did that come from? Is that just how you think? Did you study?

[B]

Always since a kid, I've always felt like I. Girl, I played lacrosse one time. Did I ever Think I was gonna play lacrosse. Like, imagine being in high school. Like, yo, let's just go sign up and play lacrosse. Like, that was me. So. I don't know. I feel like I'm a jack of all trades. I can do anything. I'm very. But I think that's comes from being raised by boys, too.

[A]

Yeah. Feeling like you can't do anything.

[B]

They'll get on the bikes and ride down the hill, and then, like, know how to press their brakes. And then I'm like, okay, yeah, let me get on.

[A]

And I.

[B]

And I don't know how to press my brakes. And now I'm like, all right. But, you know, you gotta get in there to figure it out. So I'm. I'm. I'm the best at getting my hands dirty. And I don't mind unexpected.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm like, I'm a daredevil. I went skydiving before.

[A]

I've always wanted to go skydiving. Was it crazy girl? What's this? Like, tell me real quick. Like, did you just.

[B]

Like, I was suffocating in the air. I was falling out. Okay, wait. So I was falling out, and I was like, ah. And then the guy in front of me is, like, recording me, and I'm like. He's like, you're good. I'm like. I'm like, I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I can't breathe.

[A]

I'm like, help.

[B]

Meanwhile, we're falling in the air. And I thought I was gonna die. That was the day I was talking to God, and I said, there's no way I'm going out like this. I didn't imagine. And then five seconds later, the parachute opened. I was like. I was trying to cry. Tears are just. I was like, oh, my God. I'll never do it again. Though.

[A]

When you landed, like, what did you think?

[B]

You have to land with your feet like this because the guy lands on his feet. So I thought I was gonna die again. I'm like, all right, I didn't die this time. But we still gotta get on the floor.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

And you have to land in the grass. And he's like, you land. He's dragging his feet. And the moment you put your feet, you could break your ankles off.

[A]

Yeah, it's a lot of impact, but that is sick.

[B]

It was so fun.

[A]

I need to do that.

[B]

Yeah, you should.

[A]

Also, congrats on signing with Epic Records. Thank you. In 2025, you told the Hollywood Reporter they support me rather than tell me what to do. That Is very difficult to get a label to do.

[B]

Shout out, Zeke. Shout out Sylvia.

[A]

Zeke. Girl, let me tell you, back in the day, Zeke was literally my A and R. He's a songwriter. He was a songwriter. Everything when I was a kid, literally when I had my first record deal with Atlantic Records at 12, Zeke, I just seen him. He also does stuff with Silas. Shout out to you, Zeke. Love you.

[B]

He's the best.

[A]

I just saw him and I feel like he's aging backwards.

[B]

Oh, my God, he looks so good. He's so. He's such an amazing man. And I would say him being a songwriter and the CEO of a label and knowing so much is just because he's wrote in hits. A lot of people don't know that.

[A]

They don't even know on Icebox. That's him in the back. I don't even know if I'm allowed to say that. No, he wrote Icebox and that's him. I'm so cold.

[B]

Yeah. I'm so cold.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, I got the best CEO ever.

[A]

Back in the day. He was, I'm pretty sure a part of the clutch, which was like, Kari Hilson was a part of that. Zeke was a part of that. There was jq, There was. Oh, my gosh. It was another young woman, light skinned. I cannot think of her name right now, but that was a whole moment. They did so many hits. I even think they did four minutes for Avant. Y' all know nothing about Avant. Y' all know nothing about Avon, but that's dope. So you loving working with them and you getting ready to drop this album or the mixtape? Like, what all are we gonna expect in 2026 from you?

[B]

So we're about to come with records. We're gearing up for the album. I'm just not ready to drop an album right now. I just had a baby. I'm ready to get back outside, get in those trenches, get in the clubs.

[A]

Come on.

[B]

Club.

[A]

Yeah, the clubs aren't the same anymore, though.

[B]

Girl, girl, come to my section. Come to my section.

[A]

You know how great I feel like I'd be up in there like this.

[B]

Uh, I be up in there ready to. On top of cars. On top of car.

[A]

How did it feel having your baby? Not literally having. Cause ouch. It hurts.

[B]

I'm like, oh, well, I had a C section, so they like numb you straight down. And all I remember was looking at my mom, and my mom was like, staring at me like. Like, I don't know what the hell. She was just staring at me like, Are you okay?

[A]

Cause your insides were out.

[B]

Oh my God. And she kept going like this because it's occurring. She kept going, oh my God.

[A]

I was like, what? And you didn't feel nothing.

[B]

She's like your whole inside.

[A]

I'm like, wait, what? I'm like, I'm gonna die.

[B]

I'm gonna die, girl. It was crazy.

[A]

And what did you didn't feel none of it?

[B]

No. You just feel like a little bit of pressure coming out. But no, your whole body's numb. I was actually claustrophobic cause I couldn't move. So once they numbed all this, I was like. And I was 8cm dilated until she miss mama just wasn't coming out. They was like, we gotta do a C section. She ain't gonna come out.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

And I was like, no, I wear low waist pants.

[A]

I can't.

[B]

I say I'll push, I will get her. I'll do anything, just get out. And he was like, no, honey, that

[A]

whole thing was so crazy for me. I will never forget. I was trying so hard to like, you know, do the whole not epidural thing. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but I was just trying to be like. I wanted to see how strong I was. Girl, I was barely dilated. Yes. I got to ever do it so fast. And I was pressing that thing. I was like, yes, numb these legs. Numb these legs. And I didn't bear. I mean, I remember like feeling the pressure of my son, you know, coming out. And I just remember thinking, please don't let me squeeze my baby into a weird head shape because, you know, to get stuck on the coming out. And I'm like, I was so scared about that, but I just remember seeing my son and immediately being like, I'm so happy to meet you.

[B]

It's so crazy because. Do you feel like it like they say birth is such the hardest thing to do, but when you do it, you kind of look back at it. I don't know what's more hard, the pregnancy or actually giving birth.

[A]

Well, it depends because like the pregnancy for me I feel like physically it was fine. But when I look back, I think emotionally I was like so going through so much. But like it was. I was also weirdly happy. But I was also like, you know, also feeling like weird a little bit, you know, not totally supported. So it was like very strange. But then when I had my son, I feel like, yeah, I feel like that the birth was maybe more happy.

[B]

You don't wanna say easy. Cause it's like, hard. It's like. You don't wanna say easy. Cause they say giving birth is the hardest thing, but it's. Once it's done, you're like, anything for

[A]

nine months is tough. How about that? Like, with ingrown, you just doing it back hurts.

[B]

I had an ingrown toenail one time. I've never knew that you can even get. I'm like, nah.

[A]

This pregnancy, half of my body became a different color as well. I don't know if that happened to you.

[B]

Mine is dope.

[A]

Like, it was just totally this color. Like, what does that do to affect the B.

[B]

And it has, like, this little line going down. Yeah.

[A]

What did it mean? You know, like, how did that help the baby? Literally, anyway, it's. It's a journey. What would you say motherhood has so far taught you about yourself that you didn't realize, if anything, Baby, this is Iki Palma. Yeah.

[B]

Motherhood has taught me patience. I had to sit pregnant for a very long time. Well, because it feels like forever, but. Yeah. You sit for nine months and you have to wait. It's a waiting game. And then when your baby comes, you know, you want to give her or him the best life that you can ever think possible. You know, and just imagine trying to give somebody the best life. Like, the best. Like, you get everything that I did not go through. I want everything I did not go through to happen. I want you to live better than me and, you know, use it as motivation. And I feel like it's changed me a lot. Not only as a mom, as an artist, but as a friend, as a girlfriend, as a daughter. Like my mom, I look at her so different since I had a child.

[A]

That happens real fast.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When I realized that I'm my mom's baby.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because the way that I feel about my Leotis, I'm like, mom, you feel like that about me? Girl, I'm so sorry. And I love you down Boots. Cause it's so crazy when you feel the love of having your own child.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You realize everything that probably scared your mom. Yeah. Everything that your mom had the courage

[B]

to do for you. Sacrifices.

[A]

The sacrifices.

[B]

And we're lucky. Cause we're so blessed to have, you know, the luxury and the success that we've been. Was able to provide, you know, for ourselves and our kids, our parents. So can you imagine? And I also feel for so many, like, mothers out there and single mothers out there, and the ones who are just like, shout out to all of y', all, I wanna let you know Y' all do an amazing job, for sure. Everybody. God's time is always on time. Everybody's testimony and journey is different.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Never compare yourself to other moms. Give yourself grace and be easy on yourself, please. Because I feel for you, girl.

[A]

A lot of times, that's the main thing we need is just a little compassion and gratitude for ourselves. I mean, you've grown in the public eye from Internet backlash to chart success to now motherhood. When you look back at your career, what version of yourself are you most proud of protecting?

[B]

I feel like being an artist and a female artist and then a female artist in hip hop, your passion can be mistaken as being a bitch or having an attitude or. But no, I'm always someone who knows what I want, and I'm not settling for anything less. Obviously, you want to move with kindness. You want to be sweet, you want to have grace, you want to be an empath. But now I'm standing on anything. And everything I've ever went through and ever said in this industry, I'm standing on it. It made me who I am, you know, because at one point I said to say. At one point, people try to say, like, you know, coilerae is a little difficult or coilerae is crazy, or coilerae might not be the easiest to work with.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. But I learned this. You're only not going to be easy to work with when they don't want you to do what they want you. What they don't. When they don't want you to do what they want you to do.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That's the only time you become difficult. Yeah. And I had to stand strong and believe in myself no matter what. No matter what, you know, and. And not let that affect me and the people around, you know, having to go to. Having to meet people in real life and in person and be like, hi. Like, hello, I'm. I'm coy. Like. And people be like, oh, my God, I didn't even know you was. I didn't know you was that cool. A lot of people think I'm cocky. I didn't know you was this humble. So, yeah, people.

[A]

It's interesting. Cocky people say that, but it's also, like, you seem to affirm yourself, and I think that's really awesome.

[B]

I'm her. Yeah.

[A]

Like, you should. Why. Why shouldn't we affirm. Just cause I'm her don't mean you, not her. You know what I mean? Like, that's what I think the thing is, is people gotta know. Just cause I'm saying I'm dope. I ain't saying you not dope. Right. You know, you care so deeply about mental health, which I think I found out about your Camp Courage. You started Camp Courage. You know, it's a nonprofit that's dedicated to empowering and uplifting youth in inner cities. Was that something you always wanted to do, or did it kind of find its way to you?

[B]

I feel like as a female artist or a public figure, you have to make. It's like the brand thing, right? What is your purpose? I can sit here and make music, travel the world, but, like, what is the purpose behind all this stuff? And I might not be the best role model. Right. I don't want to ever. And I don't mind being a role model because I'm a really great person.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm very smart, so I. I should be. I am a great role model for whoever needs a role model out there. But I just know that there's a bigger purpose to everything. And all these club nights and all the traveling that we do and all the glam and the glitz, and what about the people that aren't that don't get to experience this lifestyle or they don't even get to see it? And coming up with Camp Courage World, Courage the Cowardly Dog is one of my favorite cartoons.

[A]

That's a good cartoon.

[B]

And that's how I came up with the name, because Courage was somebody who. Who protected his family no matter what. Even the grandpa, he was so mean to him, and he still, no matter what, made sure he protected Miriam, and he protected him, and. And he was scared, but was fearless every time. Every obstacle and every demon that came, courageous way he fought it, and he did whatever he needed to do to protect his family. So I feel like with Camp Courage World, you know, outside of just looking cute and everything, us female artists, or all artists in general have to come together in a way to give back and share, shed light in other ways that people can relate outside of just what we got going on.

[A]

Yes. I love that. You know what that just made me think about when you were saying that was just like. You remember the song Ladies Night?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I be the one smoking your papa graduate. Like, it was all the girls, you know what I mean, Coming together. We haven't had something like that in a really long time. With all the rattles.

[B]

We tweeted about that, like, four years ago. I'm like, damn, there's never gonna be another Ladies Night.

[A]

I wish. So I feel like you could champion it. I Mean, totally.

[B]

And it's. I feel like if we do a lazy night with everybody, everybody's gonna be like, I wanna go first, I wanna go second, I wanna go third. Like, or, I wanna have. Or someone's not long enough here.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. And then now they done heard your verse, and now they want a new verse.

[B]

Now they want a new verse.

[A]

Girl, you should have showed up from the beginning.

[B]

You should have just showed up. Baby, get in the booth. No, I ain't work.

[A]

You've. What's helped you. Would you say, personally protect your piece as you've grown if there are things that you do, like, are you into, you know, meditation or yoga or family?

[B]

The gym helps.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, I do like the gym, too.

[B]

I was in the gym, like, at 108 pounds, but I wasn't going to try to get the body. I was going because I needed a hobby. Like, I would wake up and be on my phone and just be on my phone and score. I'm like, nah, bro, you gotta wake up and do something. The moment you just are stagnant is when the chaos comes because you sit with your own thoughts and your brain will, like, literally have a mind of its own. So I feel like, you know, going on walks. I like camping, I like fishing, I like hiking.

[A]

Oh, my gosh, yes. Cooking. I love camping and I love fishing. My dad used to take me fishing a lot back in the day in Chicago, you know, Midwest, girl, we be eating sardines.

[B]

All type sardines out the can with the hot sauce. You know what I mean?

[A]

It's just those memories to me that that's the type of stuff that money cannot buy at all. What are those things that you can't wait to show Miyoko, your daughter?

[B]

I can't wait to take her around the world. I feel like that's something I've always wanted to do still till this day, like, being. I've been around so many places and I didn't even get to experience the place because it was just like work, you know, you come in, you come in for a show, and you're in and you're out. But no, I want to take her all around the world. I want her to experience new food, just that tourism experience, you know, I want to. I don't want to just go and go to the. The Ritz Carlton resort and chill on the beach for a little. I'm trying to hit the excursions, jump off the mountains, go to the museums.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I want her to learn that there's so much out there in this world than, you know, any negative negativity or anything that can cloud her mind. Because you'll be surprised. Like, have you been to India?

[A]

I just went to.

[B]

You went?

[A]

No, I went to Indonesia.

[B]

That's still very far, though. Well, I haven't been to India. I'm saying it like I've been, but it's like, bro, that's one of the main places I really want to go.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, because you want to be on that. Nam yoho renge kyo.

[B]

I want to just go experience. I want to feel the fabrics. I want to see the sandals. I want to see girls hairs. I want to everything. I want to learn about the culture,

[A]

the traveling, traveling, traveling. It's so awesome. I remember I was talking to. I went to abff of like, the gala that they do, and I was sitting next to Mario Van Peebles, and he was like, telling me how him and his son went to Costa Rica and lived for a year when he was a little boy. And I was just like, that is so cool. And I was thinking to myself, 69 years old, I could do that.

[B]

I want to retire on a farm. You know Bretman rock.

[A]

Oh, Bretman Rock. The influencer.

[B]

Yes. Yeah.

[A]

His hair is everything.

[B]

I'm so. Listen, I'm jealous, okay? I want him. I want his whole life. Come on. He wakes up in Hawaii with these mountains behind him. He feeds his chickens. He got his avocados now.

[A]

When did he move there?

[B]

He's from there.

[A]

He been always there.

[B]

I think he's always been there, but maybe he was out here working. But sure, sure, he go on his TikTok.

[A]

Girl, girl, I just live for that. There is something about me that wants to be off the grid.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I still got some stuff that I gotta do in the grid, but I would love one day to just be like, where y'?

[B]

All.

[A]

Y' all ain't see Kiki, where she at?

[B]

You know, her farms is next to each other.

[A]

I'm be like, you buy me more

[B]

milk from the cows, girl.

[A]

My friend, one of my close best friends, she has chickens. She was living in New Orleans. And I don't know if she. When she moved, she changed. But she used to give me eggs,

[B]

and she never ran out of eggs.

[A]

Never ran out of eggs.

[B]

As mess. As much as expensive eggs were shout out to everybody that got their own chicken coop.

[A]

But, you know, we gotta get into this love because, I mean, you're in love, girl. Like, it's like, honestly, it is not easy to find partnership at any stage in your life, but especially after you have a kid as a single mom, you know, just being busy, even let alone the emotional capacity. How did you find yourself back in a relationship and even be okay with sharing it with us?

[B]

Yeah, I. Okay. So it's so funny because I didn't expect to be in another relationship. Sure. Anytime soon. And I was very focused and locked in. Still very focused and very locked in. But I was like, you know, coming from my last situation, I'm like, nah, I gotta. Just me. My daughter does work. Nothing else. I am a robot. Don't talk to me. Don't talk to me. That's how my mind was.

[A]

I am a robot.

[B]

I'm like, robot. Don't talk to me. I am not real. And then I met Justin, and we did. I. I went on his podcast. He gave me mad flowers. And it's so crazy, because after the podcast, like, I didn't expect what to walk into. I didn't know what he looked like. I ain't know what. I just knew that, okay, I'm coming to release new music. It's time to promote. Girl, the moment I see him, like, we locked eyes. So crazy. But what? Yeah, but, girl, I know. But after that, I was like, nah, this guy. I ain't about to let him run his movie on me. Like, I don't trust it. I got my guard up. So I dubbed him for a couple weeks, like. But he applied pressure.

[A]

He just kept hitting you up.

[B]

He kept hitting me up. He's like, yo, I want to take you out. I want to take you out. He's like, let me take you out. I'm in the city. You're in Jersey. Like, let me take you out. And I'm like, no, Justin, you not about to run your movie on me. I don't have the mental capacity to get my feelings out.

[A]

And Are y' all the same age? Is he older? Is he younger?

[B]

He's 34.

[A]

So just a little bit older.

[B]

A little bit, yeah. But it's very. It's giving. Grown me angry.

[A]

And so what did that first date entail? This little laugh that just. That was crazy. She said, yeah, I'm blessed. That's too funny. What did he say? What was on this date, Girl, because y' all have. I've seen, like, y' all been locked in ever since that we saw y' alls together. Like,

[B]

I just felt. I think I fell for his personality. He's the most funniest person ever. He's such A good vibe. He's such a good time. But also too, like, you know, now that we're together, I've gotten to experience, like, the way he pours into me. And I think that was the main thing that I fell in love with, because I've never been with anyone ever, that poured into me the way he did. You know, it doesn't feel like a competition.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It doesn't feel like there's ego there. It doesn't feel like, you know, he's. He doesn't care if I'm more successful as an artist, and I don't care if he's more successful, you know, as. As in media. But it just seems like we're so.

[A]

What do you think made you unafraid to be public again? Because I've never even really been that public. And the little splashes that I've gotten, it's like, I don't want anyone ever to know, you know? So how did you be like, I'm gonna do an interview, and we gonna do Pac and, like, you know what I mean?

[B]

What makes you feel organic, girl? I'm telling you, like, if I could just play you guys a timeline of everything, and you could just see, like, behind the scenes, you'll be like, oh, wow. Like, it just fell into play. Like, we just end up. I don't know who posted first, him or me. I think he posted me first. First, and then I posted him. But it was just, like, in the moment. And then also, too. I'm a tourist. Like, yes, my man. Let me show y' all what's going on. Like, I honestly feel like you shouldn't hide your significant other. I'm. I'm standing on that. I think that you should let the world know. You don't have to make it your lifestyle, but I do think that you should let the world know. Like, y'.

[A]

All. Jayla told me that she was like, if that's your man, that's your man.

[B]

That's your man.

[A]

What the hell? Virgos are like, hell, no. Y' all, like, what, man? I'm a man. Well, you know, we're all healing.

[B]

I know that's right.

[A]

You know we're all healing.

[B]

I know that's right.

[A]

Well, I guess I gotta let you go. But before I let you go, boo, we've got to play a little game, okay? Female rap is one of the hardest genres to break through, period. So when we talk about legacy, we're really giving flowers to women who kick the door open. So today, I wanna see how well you really know female rap across generations. So we're gonna go head and some female rap trivia. This is ladies who Rap quiz. Okay, we're gonna take turns, so I'll let you go first as the guest.

[B]

Which female rapper became the first rap artist to win a Grammy for album of the year?

[A]

Who's my choices?

[B]

Lauryn Hill, Cardi B. Moni Love, Lil Kim.

[A]

I'm gonna say Lauryn Hill.

[B]

That was a good answer. Cause that's the right answer.

[A]

Yes, that's a good answer. Okay, who was the first female rapper inducted into the Rock and Roll hall of Fame?

[B]

A.

[A]

Queen Latifah. B. Missy Elliot.

[B]

Missy Elliott.

[A]

Damn. That's true. That's.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So are we on a timer now?

[B]

I'm like Missy Elliott. She knew I couldn't wait to answer that one. Shout out Missy.

[A]

Shout out Missy.

[B]

Your alternative, baby.

[A]

Exactly. It's my win. Now I. I can't say. Oh my gosh, I love you, Missy. Anyway, your turn.

[B]

Okay, who was the first female rapper, or rapper in general to perform at the super bowl halftime show? Nicki Minaj, Missy Elliott, Mary J. Blige or Queen Latifah?

[A]

This is tough.

[B]

It is tough.

[A]

This is tough. Queen Latifah, Mary J. Blige, Nicki Minaj or who?

[B]

Missy Elliott.

[A]

Missy Elliott.

[B]

The first female rapper to perform at the super bowl halftime show. Just think about who you haven't seen on there.

[A]

Cause I feel like we ain't seen Nicki. No, we definitely ain't. I mean, Mary J. Blige isn't a rapper. We've never seen Queen Latifah. Have we seen Queen Latifah? I feel like it wasn't a.

[B]

Uh oh, uh oh.

[A]

We seen her unit Y. It was Queen.

[B]

Eh,

[A]

yes.

[B]

Come on. Queen Latifah.

[A]

That's crazy. Queen Latifah is everything to me. She was like. I was that little kid that was like, who do you look up to? Queen Latifah.

[B]

My favorite Queen Latifah moment. I'm sorry. Is day after day, she'd be like,

[A]

I hate that they shot her.

[B]

You cried.

[A]

I cried.

[B]

I cried too.

[A]

I can't even watch that movie like that. And in the scene when Jada Pink and they playing I'm missing you. Yes, yes, that.

[B]

I cried.

[A]

Get on my nerves, girl. Okay, which female rapper had her own self titled sitcom in the early 2000s? Foxy Brown, Lisa, Left Eye Lopez, Eve or Remy?

[B]

Eve. It was Eve, right, Stevie? Eve. Yes. Cause Eve had a show.

[A]

She did, and it was really good. I used to love Eve's show, but it was weird because her name was like something else on the show. Yeah, it was like Eve. The show was like the Eve show, but then she was Shelly in it.

[B]

I'm like, uh, who's the director? Who wrote that script? I need to see. I need answers. Like what? All right, all right. Which female rapper was the first woman to win best rap song at the Grammys? Meg Thee Stallion. Nicki Minaj. Ice Spice or Doja Cat?

[A]

Ice Spice. Got Doja cat. Well, I know it ain't Nikki. Cause she's mad, so it ain't her. It is her.

[B]

No.

[A]

Yeah, it ain't her. It had to be. It probably. So name the other people again.

[B]

Ice Spice, Doja Cat. Meg thee Stallion.

[A]

I'm gonna say Meg thee stallion. Yeah, it was Meg.

[B]

She won a Grammy.

[A]

I'm a savage. Classy, bougie ratchet. That was during COVID too, right?

[B]

She had us. She had. Had the. Had Covid locked for us all. Sure was.

[A]

Okay, this is gonna be hard, so I'm gonna make the last one a little bit. Mm. Which 90s female rapper was part of the Juice Crew and known for rap battle or battle rap? We have MC Light, Lil Kim, Roxanne, Shantae, Missy Elliot.

[B]

It's gonna be between Roxanne and MC Lyte. I'm gonna go with Roxanne.

[A]

And you would be correct. Oh, let's go.

[B]

My mom is a big Roxanne fan.

[A]

Roxanne. Roxanne, y'.

[B]

All. I love it. Thank you Foo so much for coming.

[A]

You are awesome, and I'm so happy for everything.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I love that conversation. Come on, Coi Leray. You don't always get to see every layer of an artist in one setting. From the grind to the growth to stepping into motherhood and a whole new era, she is owning it, and that's powerful. Make sure y' all stream the new music and tap into everything she's building, because something tells me this next chapter is about to be major. I'll see you next time on Baby, this is Keke Palmer. Baby, this is. This is Kiki. Baby, this is Kiki Palmer. Yeah.