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Y'. All. Today's guest is a true comedy king. A writer, actor, producer, and part of one of the most iconic families in entertainment history. From flipping horror on its head with scary movie to giving us cult classics like White Chick, to his latest role as a football legend with a sinister side in his new movie, Him Baby. This is Marlon Wayans. He's getting into grief, growth, legacy, and the realest version of fatherhood. And his new comedy special about his trans son, Kai. And you know, I had to get into who the finest Wayans brother really is. Spoiler, Marlon. So let's get into the show. No matter what we doing in the car. Just chilling, pop on Amazon music, sit back and listen. Life, love, sex, science, covering it all, especially the bad. Cause money always evolves no matter what it is. We gon make it make sense. Nothing else to do but kick it with the homies and kids. So grab you a drink and a snack, you enjoy and get into the vibe that only you know it's your girl. Baby, this is. This is Kiki.
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Baby.
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This is Kiki Palma. Yeah. This episode is presented in partnership with Airbnb. Baby, summer's calling, and she's got one thing on her mind. Your next getaway. My take. Plan your trip by searching guest favorites on Airbnb because these most loved homes are ready for your next adventure. Let's get into it. Okay, Marlon, you know, I'm so happy to have you on the show because I've been wanting this for a long time.
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Well, I told you, you have to earn it. You know, I'm approved. I don't just give it up.
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Cause I'm like, why you on all the podcasts? You on all these other people's podcasts. You ain't came to. Baby. This is Keke Palmer. You know I'm your number one fan.
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I saved the best for last. See that? That boy know how to do it.
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You too slick. You too slick.
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That boy know how to do it.
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Now, y' all know we do the pre show. The pre show questionnaire. So let me see what you. What you. I gotta get into this chicken scratch.
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I wr. That's how you know who creative is. Possible creative geniuses are. Cause the handwriting is terrible.
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Yeah, you definitely up there. So today I'm giving dopeness with a side of goodness that feels good.
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That feels good. But read more because I'm sprinkling what you're sprinkling.
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Well, today's mood is a bit of I don't give a sprinkle on top sprinkled on top. I love that.
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That's how I sprinkle that. I don't give a. On top of dopeness and goodness. But you gotta sprinkle. So I' ma don't give a on this. Cause there's some judgmental nowadays. Can I curse on your podcast?
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You can curse.
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Oh, I thought we were still on Disney. I was like, I don't wanna disrespect your Nickelodeon deal, but we still love Nickelodeon.
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Money.
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Hey, get all that money.
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This is Amazon.
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Dang.
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Amazon's open. Amazon's open.
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Oh, get that, Bezos. Check.
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Now, wait a minute. It says. What did you listen to on the ride here? My thoughts. My own insanity.
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Yeah, I don't listen to a lot of music because you don't listen to music.
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That's kind of a new thing to hear you say.
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I never knew that because it's a distraction. I need to hear my thoughts. I'm looking for clarity. I'm looking for God. And so when I go walk, I like to listen to books. I want to think and grow rich. I'm thinking about, you know, legacy. I'm thinking about branding. I have so many things in my head. I'm thinking about sets that I don't want to listen to other people's material because I don't want to search out for my material. I need to search inward if I want great material. I gotta talk, think about my pain. I gotta think about my trauma. I gotta think about the trauma I've given others. And I gotta think, how do I make that and transpose that into hilarity? And if I'm listening to music, then I'm listening to somebody else's art. And I'd rather just create mine through God and silence.
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I'm not mad at that. Because sometimes if you're not insular enough, then you don't know what. What's your idea or what's someone else's idea? Obviously, we're all inspired by ideas, but you know what I'm saying. I was just talking to a friend about that, where I was sharing something and I was like, let me pull back for a second real quick because I haven't really formulated it completely with myself. So before you start adding on top of it, let me go back to the drawing board. Cause I don't want you to ingest my mind when I haven't really fully closed it out. So I absolutely.
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Let me finish my thought. But you know what? I don't watch a lot of TV anymore because where did that stop you think my mind is the tv? I'd stop when I said I know enough about the world and about people that I need to really figure me out. And I need to talk to God. Cause he's the source. And my therapist. Cause that's the other source. And I need to figure out how I can take myself and be a prism to infect the world with whatever lessons and drama and trauma I've been through and, and give them laughter. So that's.
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And I know with most of your material, a lot of times you do talk about your family and stuff like that, but when it comes to pop culture or like just conversational stuff that's happening in the culture and society, do you just get it from social media? If you gonna get into some news or something happening with the day, it's too easy.
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Yeah, it's too easy for me to look at a newspaper and go, okay, Nick, what did Trump do today? You know what I mean? Is slavery back or what? You know what I mean? It's always slavery back or what?
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Literally the. Or like when is it like.
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And when we do, do we get a day off? You know what I mean? You don't know. It's too easy for me to look at the newspaper, for me to look at pop culture music. You know what I mean? What did Kanye, what did his crazy ass say today? It's too easy. What did I go through that hurt me that I can go? What's funny about this? How can I rescue myself and others? I lost my parents. I lost my mother and my father and it's okay, but.
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But it's terrible. I'm sorry about that. I mean, we all will lose at some point, but it's terrible. I'm sorry.
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Oh yeah, you got yours, right?
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Thank yes.
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Oh yeah, boy, call me in 40 years when they go, I'm right here, baby girl.
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40 years.
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We enjoy em.
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I'll be 80. No, I'm not 40 yet. I'll be 70.
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You're 40?
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No, I'm not. I'm 32. But, but I mean, that feels 40.
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No, but you look like a baby. You still look like you on the street.
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You know, I've been working.
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Is it Disney or Nickelodeon?
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It's both. You know, I had to get every check I could have.
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You got two monies. Damn. You was competing against yourself, literally betting against me.
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We got jump in over here. We got Rags and True Jackson. Yeah, good.
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But yeah, losing your parents really give you some real self discovery because there's a lot of healing involved. In that kind of grieving process. And I learned when I did this, I did a special called Good Grief about my parents passing and how I got through it. That was, to me, my best work. Because I think comedy is the layers of an onion. And until you get to the place where you take the things that make you cry, you're in the center of that onion and the things that make you cry, and you find joy and humor in that. And then other people, when they go through it, they're like, thank you for that. Because now you become like a biblical story, right?
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There's something that I have to talk to you about that I've been. I don't want to say struggling with, but I've been tampering with in my mind. And as somebody who initially, when I came into the industry, it wasn't like I was like, I'm a comedian or something like that, but I always used performance in entertainment as a form of survival, as a form of coping. Like, it just was in my household. You know what I saw? The fact that my parents weren't always able to be emotionally available, what they were dealing with the stress of my dad getting up and going work at a factory and just all of that, I've transported that into my humor and my jokes, and I'll be the relief. But now, at 32, I feel something changing in me where it's like, well, what. What if it's not just for that? Do you get what I'm saying? Where it's like, if the only way that I get into this space is it in this place of service, and is it in this place of always taking something from my pain?
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Well, there's.
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It's both. I love it. But then also it's. You can.
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There's layers to it, right? So it's easy. When you're younger, your first material, your first thing you can pull from your parents, because that's your first loves, that's your first bit of trauma that you're going to get from people is from your parents, unfortunately. And there's no perfect parenting. As much as parents try to offer you the best life, they're going to make mistakes. Why did you send me to private school? I would have learned how to fight early. If I sent you to public school. These are the things that my kids are saying, like, what are you talking about?
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That's too funny.
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But then when you get older and you start experiencing your trauma and you have a baby, and then you have to deal with a relationship, and now you're Your mother?
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Yeah.
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And now you're going, how do I take and rescue my mom from through myself? What am I not gonna take that she took. Where am I gonna. Or what am I gonna learn that my mother tried to teach me that. Oh, in this moment, I should behave this way.
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And how else can I deal with my trauma outside of performing?
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That's what. That's the gift. No, but that's the gift. And that's why you're so talented, because you have absolute adhd.
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I know for a fact, the two.
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Of us together, we need Ritalin, bro. Like, we're the ad itself. It's crazy. We are. Whatever drug. What is that? What's the drug? ADHD drug. What's that?
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Ritalin. We're the ads.
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What's the other? It's Ritalin and something else.
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Adderall.
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Adderall. Oh, man. We need to do a nigga. We need to do a whole sponsorship.
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Cause it's us.
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Today's podcast is brought to you by Ritalin.
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Well, we'll be like this. Today's podcast by Ridley Focus.
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But yes, I mean, that's a gift. And that you learned that you take your pain, or you take your love, or you take your hurt, or whatever you take. And it could be goodness too. See, when I was younger, I was silly. My comedy was different. They were like, Marlon too silly.
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Oh, no, always. My fa. I love all the Wayans brothers, but you know, that's cause I was closest to your age.
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You was like, no, my Damon too old. I can't have a crush on homie to clown.
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But the way I did hear. So you've always been the finest, funniest, my favorite Wayans. That's the fact.
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Shawn is definitely the finest.
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But why do people always say no? No, he was not. He just.
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If I was a girl, I'd be like, marlon, make me laugh. But I'm Sean.
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But I heard that Damon is the one stealing people's girls. Like, what is this?
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You was watching tmz? No, Damon, No. TMZ asked me. Cause Damon had dated one of a girl that my nephew had dated, and he actually fell in love. It was one girl that Craig was talking to, but he wasn't in love with her. Damon actually fell in love. And then TMZ asked me, and in my family, there's no drama. And anytime you come to me with drama, I'm an answer with comedy. So they asked me, what do you think about Damon stealing your nephew's girl? I said, that's just Damon. All he do is steal people girlfriend. You gotta stop stealing girlfriends, Damon. You stole my girlfriend. You stole Kenan girlfriend. You stole Damon's girlfriend. Damon is Damon. You steal everybody's girlfriend. Your kid's girlfriend. Damon, stop doing that. And I do that to be funny. Damon don't really sit around. He's actually the opposite. Damon, Damon been super religious a long time. So we be in clubs.
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Wow.
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And just when I'm about to like, land close a deal, here come Damon. Can I talk to you for a second? And he Jehovah Witness. So he talks to the girl about God. And I'm like, I'm trying to close the deal right about nothing.
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He's trying to close the church deal.
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Do you think Jehovah would really respect you if you went home with this right now? Anybody in there was like, I'm good. It's Saturday night. I'm going to Kingdom Hall Sunday. But thank you, Marlon. He was turning them out, sending them home with watchtowers. But that's Damon. Damon is not like that dude. Damon's actually always been. And all of us were solid men. My parents, my mother, my father. And we've always had. God have raised us to be solid men.
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What's it like at the barbecue? Who's on the grill, who's talking, who's quiet? Because again, as performers, everybody think everybody's always performing all the time. But that ain't how it is. A lot of times I'm one in my family that's quiet when we all get together. So at the Wayans house, who's who, what's what.
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Right now, them is old. So I'm the. I'm the everything. I'm cooking, I'm talking, I'm cracking the jokes. I'm the uncle that's putting too much gas on the fire. I'm serving people. But you know, when we sit down at the table, it's all fun. We just pass the baton and we just enjoy each other's company. And everybody in my family, my nieces, my nephew, my kids, everybody, everybody in our family is funny. And even though we're all funny, we all have our inside jokes about each other.
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Yes.
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And that's the fun part. And then don't let company come over and don't let something be wrong. Cause we going, we got our weigh ins code. It's like you ever see a baseball team and the coach is telling you to steal base. And you know, they don't do that. They just pinch their ear and they communicate. That's how we communicate. That Means look at the toes.
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Look at the toes. Hilarious.
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Oh, speaking of Wayans, I want to give you something.
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Wait a minute.
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No, I bought something for you.
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I love gifts.
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I know, but listen, it's not that fly. I didn't put tissue in the gifts, but it's nice. But, you know, I wanted to bring you some of this from my website. Because that's official. Because you're official Wayans family. Yes. So I want to bring you an official Wayans brothers shirt and a hoodie just in case you get cold. And then I bought you this truck here, Marlon. So, you know, that's on my website@marlon wayans.com. and as you see, we're brothers. We're happy and we're singing and we're colored. Give me a high five. Yes.
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You know, I know.
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Well, here, you don't have to hold that. I don't want you like that. But I just wanted to gift that to you. Cause I feel like.
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And you know, I just bought the whole Living Color set. They had it on Amazon Prime. I bought the whole set.
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Holla. Let's watch it. I'll watch it with you.
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You have to. I mean, I don't know.
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We should sit down and watch it. You know what I want to do one day? We should do like a dope schedule. I think that'd be fun. We would have so much fun.
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Marlon, all you have to do is say the word and I'm there. I need to ask you this because this. First of all, you know I grew up on. Don't be a menace. I'm going to get you, sucker. I mean, everything that you and your family have done, because not only was it funny, but you guys were such a saying things within it. And this is something that I feel. And I need to ask you what you think about that's missing with satire. First of all, we don't really have satire and parodies anymore. And if we do, they're so surface and it's just a bunch of blanket jokes. They don't really connect to anything real. It's not connected to a true message. Like, even when you think about don't be minister, South Central message, message, it's like you guys were also saying stuff in it to the community about our representation in media. Even when you go all the way back to Hollywood shuffle, Right? So I gotta. What has happened to the art of satire?
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I don't think nothing anything's happened to the art of satire. Except for social media, I think, has come along and has spit out a Narrative that people don't laugh no more. And you know it's not true that you can't make fun of each other no more. Those are bots from other countries that hate the fact that our United States of America was getting along, learning to laugh and at each other's differences. And they wanted to put a kibosh on that, and they did. And then the media picks up, social media. Cause they've been very lazy. So they basically send the programming out to the executives. And the executives say, hey, you can't say this. And they tell the artists. And then we don't have a point of view anymore. But that's why me and my brothers joined back to scary movie 6. Cause we feel like it's time for people to get in the movie theaters and laugh again. And what your movie proved, you and Issa Rae's movie. Thank you. Congratulations.
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Thank you.
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Because people wanna laugh. Who are you to tell us that we people don't wanna laugh? I'm on stage every weekend. You can't say that. No, you can't say that. I could say you can't do white chicks nowadays. No, you can't. I can. We did the first one. You don't think I know how to make the second one? That's why I stay on stage. Because I wanna be a scientist when it comes to the art of comedy. Don't tell me that I can't say it. Tell me how I can. And so I don't think it's the audience. I think it's the narrative that social media has put out there to the media that's infected. And now everybody's so scared to spend their money. But I think for artists like you and I, we go, that's a good thing. Because, you know, now, trust me with the joke. I know how to do this. Trust me with these stories. I know how to infect my people with my story and bring in a new audience as well.
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And the saddest part about it is when we don't approach it from that lens, we don't get the opportunity for comedy to do what it really is supposed to do, which is it's the medicine or the conversations that we want to have. Even if I go all the way back to Norman Lear and we think about the Jefferson, you know what I mean? Or all in the Family. Like, those conversations were so racially charged, but there was humor and comedy.
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But what's crazy is now they try and act like racism don't exist. People are acting like what's happening within Our government, like, oh, it's all good. There was a time we used to protest. There was a time that we wouldn't stand for this. This is a generation of people that just talk on social media, but they're not willing to be present. Right. And so you have all these. All the heroes that we had, from the Harry Belafontes to the Sidney Poitiers to the Muhammad Ali's to the. They was a gener full of black men that were a voice for us. Who's the voices now? Nobody want to say nothing. They just want to let all this happen.
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I think we do have voices, but when they. Sometimes it gets to the point where. And I can even say for myself, sometimes there's apathy that ends up coming.
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Across because people don't use big words with me. Hell, you mean I didn't come over here to use the songs. What's happened at that point?
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I thought you were a doctor. According to your handwriting.
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Well, that's my handwriting. I cut a lot. That's just a nigga that cut class. I cut handwriting classes in English class. What's apathy? That's like Sympathy's brother, right? Apathy.
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Apathy. You get tired.
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Yeah, exhausting apathy. Like, you exhaust.
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Exhaust.
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I'm feeling real apathetic right now.
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Okay, Lope, dog, you get apathetic where you really feel like, you know, you don't know where it's going. But obviously for me, in my specific thing as an artist, I'm sure you feel the same way. I do what I can through my work. That's my voice. You know, I show it, I share it. This is how I feel. I wanna bring laughter, I wanna bring joy, I wanna bring perspective. But I do think it does get to the point where sometimes people don't know what their lane of that sense of refuge is.
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Because we are untethered from ourselves and from our community and from God. We live in a godless generation. Like, they're not really, you know, the youth ain't really talking about that. Like, you know, my parents, you know, they were strict, they took care of us. They nowadays, hey, play on the phone at 2 years old, you know, it'. I think the reality of it is we have to have a voice and lend our voice to that. In the 90s, what me and my brothers was trying to do, we were being rebellious. We was trying to do what they did in the 60s, the 70s and the 80s. And we just picked up the baton like, yo, we still have stories to tell. Yo, there are still a Lot of that's going on in our communities. Yeah, we have more jobs, but there's more jobs that need to be created. What about ownership? You know, so, yeah, ownership was big.
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What you got. I mean, what you guys did, that's.
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What we was trying to do.
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Ownership changed the game entirely. And even what you continue to speak about with Scary Movie and what that taught you, I remember when we sat down and you told me about that and spoke to the business to me on that. I mean, how do we recreate a space, especially community and culturally, for us to collab in that way again?
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Hey, man, I had a movie, right? I was like, yo, Kiki, I got this movie. I'm gonna send you the script. All right? Bet. I love your work. You know, you read the script. All right, let's sit down. Let's go to dinner. Come on. As one of the producers, let's go do this together. Yeah, right? And that's how you make things happen. By the way, we're working on a movie together. It can't announce it.
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They didn't even know.
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But we knew we doing it. We doing it. But. And it's real, but it comes here, right? It's not being afraid to reach out, not being afraid to talk. And we gotta talk collectively. What are the agendas? What are we missing out on?
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And even what you just said, too, about, like, whatever religion is or your background is, or your community is, whatever, I think the crux of what I'm also hearing is like, what is it of substance that you're bringing? What is the intentionality behind the joke, behind the conversation, behind the work? And, yeah, I do feel like sometimes that, you know, I don't know. When I'm looking at something, I'm seeing something. I think that person is talented, or I think that this is dope. But I'm wondering what their reason is.
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Message. What is the message?
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What's the reason?
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And it's true. What is the message? What are you saying? Whenever I do something, I try to go, what is the elixir? Right? Even when I'm doing comedy, it's not that I'm just doing a bunch of jokes. I'm going, what is the elixir? What is the character? In my journey? And that's in standup, I put some story. What is this character getting? What is he acquiring? What does he need? Because that elixir, you give to the audience, and that makes them feel good. The jokes is great, but they come back because this way they left. They were infected with something. Different. And that is the elixir. My elixirs are usually love. I got a stand up set about my dead parents and the elixir was here's how I got through grief and here's how I got to acceptance. And I used that same kind of elixir when it came to acceptance with my child. I have a whole hour on my. I have a trans child. And I was just like, yo, here's the journey I went through.
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That's your new show, Wild Child.
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Yeah.
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Where you get to talk about.
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Nah, I'm gonna do a special on it. I'm probably gonna call it the special Somewhere under the Rainbow. And I plan to film that in the summer and figure out who's gonna.
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Congratulations on that.
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Thank you. I'll figure out who's gonna distribute it or what streamer it's gonna be on. But, you know, it's a beautiful hour and people are love. The fact that, you know, I start here and I say all kinds of crazy from this angle, but then I get to. And that's in the five stages of grief that I went through to get to acceptance, which is denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and then acceptance.
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What was the place of acceptance that you think you like? When you got there, what was it that you had to accept the most.
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That it wasn't for? It wasn't about them. God put me through this journey and they were just a vessel for my personal growth.
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This is your parents that you're talking about?
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No, this is my child. And what I went through with Kai, I was still healing from my parents and didn't understand that I haven't accepted yet. And when I got to that acceptance and I was just like, oh, this is what God is trying to do. He's trying to lighten my load. He's trying to uplift me. And through this vessel, this thing that I have to change for because it's my child, I learned acceptance. And that God writes your story personally for you. If you think you are God and you're gonna judge your child, you are wrong. God has only given you that mirror for you to look at yourself and go, I need the healing. It's not them. They're doing what they gotta do for their journey to be happy. And then God was like, what are you doing for your journey to be happy? And I was like, oh, so what.
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Did that make you want to figure out what your journey that you needed to be happy with? I mean, sure, many things.
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My journey after losing my parents, that do you know, life after death is a whole nother life.
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Yeah.
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And it's one that you have to come to grip with. And a lot of people struggle with, and there's a depression involved. And it really was a synonymous journey. My healing and grieving with my parents, and then my journey with Kai. And then through all of this, God gave me this little gift. As I was losing my girl and my daughter and I gained a son, God gave me this little gift called a little brand new, Little baby girl.
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Brand new.
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And look at how God gives you. Through the rain, there's a rainbow, which is Kai. And a little pot of gold, which is Axel. Damn, that was prolific. You know, I'm done. Damn it. Call Amazon. Tell them.
- [24:19]
A
Get this boyish show, Mark.
- [24:21]
B
Amazon called Nickelodeon and Disney. Damn, Bow, that was church. I made that up. On the top of the dough. I need to.
- [24:30]
A
No, he didn't.
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B
That was off the top of the drop.
- [24:32]
A
No, he didn't.
- [24:32]
B
I need. Listen, here's what I gotta do, y'. All.
- [24:34]
A
He's really remarkable. Ingenious. All this he wrote for.
- [24:37]
B
He came here off the top of the drum. Do not believe that's my painted towel on me.
- [24:40]
A
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- [27:32]
B
I started standing up late. That's why I always told you like when you was talking about doing standup, I was like, oh, do it. Cause you're gonna be brilliant. Because what people don't understand is it doesn't take me long. It didn't take me long to really grab onto standup. And once I did, it became dangerous, right? Because I was no longer telling jokes. Now for me, it's a show. I know how to do characters. I know how to do voices. I know how to remember scripts. I could do a whole television show in which is 40 something pages. I can do 47 pages. I can do that in four days. Even though they're changing what the material is, I own that. I perform it. They put it out there in the world to be seen. I don't need three years, five years to write and learn material and try it out bits by bits. No, I could take a whole hour, take it on the road, rewrite it along the way, and in four months, I could drop a dope ass special. You have a gift. And the fact that you have voices and characters and you could sing, bro, you. You understand. Like, you're a phenom already. Go do it. Cause you can do whatever you want in your show. And you're gonna find when you tour with your album, that you gonna bring humor. Cause you can't help it.
- [28:40]
A
Cause I have to.
- [28:41]
B
You can't help it to me.
- [28:42]
A
That is the language that I speak. We have to.
- [28:45]
B
That's why we love you. That's too damn serious. Exactly. Exactly.
- [28:48]
A
You gotta laugh. I mean, your brothers probably were. Obviously, they're your brothers, but also kind of parental figures. Cause they're a lot older.
- [28:55]
B
Oh, no, them was co dads.
- [28:56]
A
Yeah, Exactly.
- [28:58]
B
They were 16 years older than me. They were more on my parents than my parents was. My parents was like my grandparents, Kenan. We was Kenan's first kids. So before Kenan had kids, I know that he has Nala and little Keenan, but no, he had Marlon. He had Sean, Marlon, Craig, and Damion. And Shanta was his first batch of kids before he had kids. And his kids are like his grandkids. So I'm teaching his kids lessons about their dad that he tired of telling. Cause he told all of us. He's like, you tell them what I said. He don't even remember what he said.
- [29:36]
A
So what was it like? I mean, did you. You know, because I talk about this with my family a lot. We really look up to your family. Not just because you guys are hilarious and amazingly talented, but because you have created a lineage. Lineage that continues your legacy forward. Did Kenan sit at a table and he sit down and say, this is what we gonna do, and this is how we gonna do it? Or was it just keeping you guys around it and seeing who spoke to what or who felt what? Like, how did y' all decide? This is a We're the Wayans family.
- [30:01]
B
I think my father was a very hard worker, and he really loved God. And he was very disciplined about coming home to his kids. And having a father figure in our household was everything, because that spoke to us. No matter what happened during the day, no matter how many times my mother would curse my father out, my father was like, unweathered. I am coming home, and I'm gonna be with my children. I'm gonna raise my boys. I'm gonna raise my daughters. I'm gonna make sure that I am a figure. I'm gonna get up, I'm gonna read my. To be an example. My mother was just brilliantly talented, like a frustrated artist. And she was brilliant, and she gave us love. And what Kenan learned from my mother and my father was to be an example and to give us love. So Kenan just was that guy that he sent me and Sean when Damon was getting in trouble. Damon came out to California, stayed with Kenan, worked in the mailroom, worked his way up. Kim left college, finished college, and came out to California. And Kenan was like, here's what you do. Me and Sean and Craig and Damian. He would bring us out to California in the summertime or in wintertime and let us spend a week outside of the projects to see what it was to be in Hollywood. So he infected us by example. And it wasn't that he pushed this on us. It was just something that we wanted to do. And he was like, okay, well, this is how you do it, right? When I saw my brother on Johnny Carson, when I was.
- [31:29]
A
I mean, that's crazy.
- [31:31]
B
Five on a black and white tv. And, you know, I'm dreaming. Me and Sean, we in our bed at night watching wpix, like, oh, we're gonna be the honeymooners. We're gonna have our own sitcom. This is what we were saying at 5 and 6 years old. But to see your brother in black and white on the television, I was like, oh, wait, you mean these dreams that I have, I can actually make it a reality? And from there, that's all we do is try and be examples.
- [31:56]
A
I mean, it was like. I mean, you guys just got the big. I think. Where were we at the BET Awards, or were we at the naacp?
- [32:00]
B
NAACP Awards. And you got your award.
- [32:02]
A
You got your.
- [32:03]
B
Same night. We got our flowers same night.
- [32:05]
A
And it was the first time that I think I'd ever met Damon. And so I was, like, screaming. But I was also like, where's Kenan?
- [32:11]
B
I want Keenan.
- [32:13]
A
Where are you?
- [32:14]
B
Yeah, we wanted him home so we could pay tribute to him.
- [32:16]
A
It was so good to see all of you guys. But what I was gonna say was, oh, doggone it. I done lost my damn train of thought.
- [32:23]
B
See, that's that adhd. Can we get some Ritalin, please? Some. What's that called? What's the other one?
- [32:28]
A
Adderall. Adderall.
- [32:29]
B
I know.
- [32:30]
A
I was gonna say, I think they talked about it when they did the big tribute, but just that a lot of people, I really be wanting them to Pause for a moment and really understand all the different things that you guys have given us. Because the super bowl halftime show that started because In Living Color was such a huge show. They were like, oh, we need something in this time. And it was a living color that now that continued. But the first time was with that show. I mean, when you sit back and think of all the things that you've done, that your brothers have done, the cultural impact that you guys have made, what do you do with it? You get what I'm saying? Like, what do you do with it? And how do you feel about it in this time? I mean, when you were doing it, maybe you weren't thinking much of it.
- [33:13]
B
But we just keep doing it, right? We don't. We're not guys that. I don't look for my flowers or don't. I'm too busy planting new trees to try and pick up or accept flowers. My hands are dirty. I'm. About this work.
- [33:28]
A
That's right, Marlon.
- [33:29]
B
About this work. You know, Idle Hands is the devil's workshop. So I don't get in no kind of nonsense or trouble. My mouth may get me in trouble, but Marlon is a hardworking man. I try to be an example for my children, an example to my community, example to my brothers and my sisters that have raised me to be this way. I know my parents. My parents are still watching me. I know God has watched me. So I just do the work. So I don't. The first time NAACP Awards was the first time we picked up our flowers. Like, oh, wow. We made history multiple times. We're like, that's great. We. Back to work. I'm looking at this scary movie 6, and I'm like, I wanna knock this out the park. I need everybody to laugh again. The purpose of this right now is I need everybody in the theaters in droves laughing again at each other. We all need to. As a world, we need to change the frequency and we need about each other.
- [34:21]
A
And I love. While I do think it's important to get your flowers, and I always. Every time I see you, I wanna give you your flowers, to give you your family of flowers. I think it's so important. Also what you said is, at the end of the day, you do what you do because you love it. And I think a lot of times in our generation now, we spend so much time being, like, so and so's underestimated. By who, right? On what grounds, to whose standards? I'm doing what I'm doing. Cause I love it. And if it touched One person, then it's done what it's supposed to do.
- [34:46]
B
Because we always look at the standards of awards and things in that, these acknowledgments. I don't do it for that. I do it for whoever I infect in a positive way, then I'm for you. If you don't like my stuff, maybe I ain't for you right now. Maybe in 10 years. Or you go through something in your life, and then you'll figure out what the hell I was saying 10 years ago. But I'm not for everybody. But the ones I'm for, you know where to find me. And you gotta be authentic, right? 100%, 150% authentically yourself, right?
- [35:14]
A
Yeah.
- [35:14]
B
At all times. And either you with me or you off. It's a very simple thing. I don't ask people to do nothing. I just be me. And I hope that is good for you. And if not, a little bit of sprinkle of that, I don't give a On it.
- [35:26]
A
So speaking of Scary Movie, am I getting Shawn and you? Am I getting my duo?
- [35:30]
B
Oh, you definitely gonna see.
- [35:31]
A
Cause I need the duo.
- [35:33]
B
We trying to put the band back together.
- [35:34]
A
Yes, I need it.
- [35:36]
B
We trying to put the whole band back together.
- [35:37]
A
I mean, growing up with you and Shawn, it was just too much.
- [35:42]
B
I miss working with Shawn. I know.
- [35:43]
A
We missed y' all together. Y' all were the dude. Whether it was a show, whether it's Scary Movie, whatever y' all was doing. Also a sleeper. Mother Freaking the Sixth man.
- [35:52]
B
Oh, you remember that one? That was supposed to be me and Sean.
- [35:55]
A
Yeah, but it was. It wasn't.
- [35:56]
B
And Shawn turned it down.
- [35:57]
A
It's. What's up, Kadeem.
- [35:58]
B
Hardison.
- [35:58]
A
Kadeem who we love.
- [35:59]
B
We don't like brothers, but, man, you know, hey, Sean said no.
- [36:04]
A
When did Sean be like, brother? I'm tired right now. I don't want to keep doing the movies like doing a duo.
- [36:09]
B
It wasn't that. I just think Sean and I, you know, like, he has a different pace than I have. I think if you look at our careers, Sean's slugging percentage is gonna be a thousand. That man goes up to the plate, he knocks it out the park. I'm gonna be the dude that gets on base a lot, that steals a loaded basis. I'm gonna make history a different way. My slugging percentage over time is gonna be 700. It may not be 1,000, but you understand, I'm playing all different kinds of positions. I don't just play the outfield. I play shortstop. I'm a dramatic actor, I'm a standup comedian. I'm drop. This is what I do. And I don't. As much as I love my brothers, I love Damon, I love Kenan, I love Sean, I love my sister. Yep, I love them all. I love all my siblings. I don't want to be them. I want to be me. And sometimes you as an individual, God gives you that time and that synapse for you to find you. And I have very opinionated brothers. And sometimes it's not that I'm a rebel, it's just that I know they raised me and they are trailblazers. But if I want to be a trailblazer, then to just follow their footprints, that makes me a follower. If I want to be a leader, I go, oh, I appreciate that path you got to. But look, we stopped right there. But maybe if we go over here with these bushes off and we cut this way, we gonna find that water and I may do that and fall off a cliff. But that's part of being a trailblazer because I got the next generation after me and I want them to know that. Follow me up until a point. Follow and use what works for you. But if you don't like what the I'm doing, do it your way, baby.
- [37:55]
A
This is Icy Palma. Yeah. Summer reading. More like summer listening. I've been living for Emily Henry's great big beautiful life on Audible, okay? It's got everything. A mysterious heiress, competing biographers, and that slow burn romance that makes you want to just throw your phone across the room but don't because how else are you going to keep up listening? That would be crazy. And that's what I love about Audible. You can dive into these amazing stories while doing literally everything else. Working out, listen, meal prep, listen. Pretending to clean, but really just dancing with the vacuum, baby. Listen. With over a million titles and thousands included with membership, Audible's got all the audiobook, podcasts and originals you could want. Your imagination deserves this. Head to audible.com for a free 30 day trial. And your first audiobook is on me. Visit audible.comke and sign up today. There's more to imagine when you listen. How's it been with this next generation for you? You know, you.
- [39:07]
B
Oh, they some hard headed little negroes.
- [39:10]
A
They sound like you.
- [39:12]
B
They are. But it's been great. Honestly, I'm so proud of them. I look at my son and he works with Sean's daughter and he works with their other daughter and she's doing music and they're doing directing and producing music videos, and they're writing movies, and Kenan's son is creating television shows. And I just look at all of our kids, and, you know, Sean's other son is a music artist, and Kai is writing movies. And this next generation is gonna understand and take the business of our business to the next level, right?
- [39:44]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [39:45]
B
We were great farmers and great agriculturalists. I'm into industry. That's my job. My assignment is to build us into industry. And then after that, we're gonna go into education. And then from there, from education, they're gonna take it to the next level, which is philanthropy and the overall branding of what we set out to do. And it takes generations to do that.
- [40:07]
A
Because there is the whole thing with the branding, too. Right? You know what I'm saying? Like, the Wayans brothers, y' all didn't just make movies. Y' all also created a lane for what it meant to, like, create a brand for individuals and then as a family. Because now we're dealing with comedians and talent in different mediums now. We have the Kai Senats, who that's, you know, drew skis, we have the streaming, that industry, and then we have some people that are kind of getting into the art of standup, but not often. We see sketch a lot. Not one centralized place outside of snl. What word of advice would you give to them on what it really means to build a brand, not just to go viral?
- [40:42]
B
I think you gotta do it. All right? The fear. I did a show called Funniest Wins, and we took people that were on vine, we took people that was on YouTube, we took people that did, like, TikTok sketches and stuff. And then we took one like, what are those people that do one woman shows? And, you know, they do sketch and do sketch on their Instagram, whatever. And then we took comedians, and the winners were always the comedians, because the comedians on the show, the ones that.
- [41:11]
A
Did stand up, right?
- [41:13]
B
The writing, incredible craft. You gotta know what the jokes are. As much as you're. When you're making a sketch, you have an instinct, right? It's when I first started doing comedy, right? When I was 19, I had great instincts, but they weren't as sharp as Sean's, it wasn't as sharp as Damon's, not as sharp as Kenan's. But me going on the road, it's.
- [41:31]
A
So crazy when I hear you, I want to interrupt you, but it's so crazy when I hear you say that when I would be watching these. These or these. Yeah, I'll just wear these then. Yeah, that's like. I mean, I'm thinking, do we have a problem? Like, how could that comedy not be?
- [41:50]
B
But that was me at 19 with the instincts that I had.
- [41:54]
A
They were amazing instincts. They're the instincts that I emulate.
- [41:57]
B
But. And it's good to have those, right? And that's what you have. You have an instinct. I know, but that's good that you have that. But over time, I think now I'm a much better artist than I was when I was 19. 19, I was working on instinct. Now I've been doing standup and I've put out now five specials. Working on my sixth special. I know how to rock a room when I get on the next set. When I get on this scary movie set, I know where the jokes are. I know why a scene's not working. Here's what this needs. You become a professor and a scientist. I start having Kenan's eyes. Not just have Marlon's instincts. So I got Marlon's instincts. Now I have the experience of Kenan and the experience of Damon to understand where the jokes are. They're here. This is what's needed. Cause the writer in my head, and it's by doing the work. So I tell every artist and get your ass on stage. Because then when you're doing your sketches, you know what's funny and you know what's not. You won't be inappropriate. Comedy's about appropriateness. You can go far as hell and sometimes you can go even further. But can you buy the audience back after that? Did you go far enough? Yes.
- [43:01]
A
Yeah. Where's the content? We lose so much of that also these days, quickly. Who's writing it? Are you guys all writing as a family? Is Kenan writing Scary Movie six?
- [43:08]
B
Scary Movie six. All of them. Me, Sean Ivory, Rick Alvarez and my nephew. What up?
- [43:14]
A
Ok, I gotta move because I could keep you here all day talking.
- [43:17]
B
Scary Movie 6. June 12, Scary Movie 6 Next summer, it's going, you know, we got these.
- [43:22]
A
Jokes, but we've also got him that's getting ready to come out. Executive produced by Jordan Peele.
- [43:27]
B
And you work with Jordan.
- [43:28]
A
Love Jordan.
- [43:29]
B
How cool is he?
- [43:30]
A
He's amazing, isn't he?
- [43:31]
B
Like, he's the nicest. Like, and he's like, quiet, like, and he's so funny.
- [43:36]
A
All the funny people I know usually are not like you or I.
- [43:39]
B
It's just me and you. They're usually like, we have too much coffee.
- [43:42]
A
Yeah. They're literally.
- [43:43]
B
Hello. That's. Cause they're on their meds. They on their Adderall adrenaline.
- [43:48]
A
They got the calm juice. Me and you still running off the but yeah. So how was it I was with you when you were just. You were filming. You were getting like you went through a physical transformation.
- [43:59]
B
I got buff.
- [44:00]
A
Yes.
- [44:01]
B
I had to slim down and get that off me. Cause I don't wanna live like that. I'm doing scary.
- [44:04]
A
You said I don't wanna be Dwayne the Rock Johnson.
- [44:06]
B
I don't wanna be big like that. You know it's too much to carry. And how could you sleep on. I'm doing scary movies. I can't be shorty like this, son. I can't smoke my weed. It hurts to pull that weed up. These muscles is too tight.
- [44:23]
A
Memo ole boy, take my good hand.
- [44:26]
B
Scare Movie 2 We gonna try and bring everybody back. When you see this anyway I think you gonna be People are gonna be happy about scary movie 6. Him is a different kind of movie.
- [44:37]
A
Yes.
- [44:37]
B
I think it's people seeing me in a different way. It's a psychological horror thriller set in the world of football. And what I love is Justin Tipping is the director. Wonderful shout out to him wonderful director like this.
- [44:50]
A
He also did kicks.
- [44:52]
B
Yes.
- [44:52]
A
He gonna be from the Bay.
- [44:54]
B
If you get a chance, please.
- [44:56]
A
Yeah, I know his words.
- [44:57]
B
Coolest guy. You should wanna work with him. He's a great collaborator. I just had a great time with Tyreek Withers. Tyreek Withers does a great job and.
- [45:05]
A
I liked his episode that he did in Atlanta.
- [45:07]
B
But that was cute when his movie but it' to hold it down especially against all the crazy stuff I was giving him for him to just stay grounded. Stay there the reactions and make you feel for his character the way he did. I just think he did a great job.
- [45:22]
A
So kudos to Tyree and Julia Fox plays your wife.
- [45:24]
B
Julia Fox is amazing in the movie. Plays my wife. But she has a.
- [45:28]
A
Now that's a couple for your ass.
- [45:30]
B
I know. I wish I was wishing for love scenes but man, it did me. Denzel, Pelican Game did me dirty. But anyway. And then there's me. I just think it's the most untethered I've been in a movie in a dramatic way that's grounded but crazy. That's off center. The performance it's.
- [45:51]
A
And this kind of covers that like you know Stanley Kubrick, Eyes Wide Shut. Like Illuminati. What happens in the corporate in the industry when you are trying to win. Like what will you do in order to.
- [46:02]
B
What would you Sacrifice.
- [46:03]
A
What would you sacrifice?
- [46:04]
B
Right. What are you willing to sacrifice? It's the question that all artists, you know, and they're crazy with all this Illuminati. This. I ain't never met no Illuminati. Nobody ever came to me and was like, hey, man, you suck this. And I'm gonna give you these movies. I never met that guy.
- [46:19]
A
Yeah. No.
- [46:20]
B
Never met. I never met the guy. Never. And if you ever do. And I would tell artists. That's why you take. And you equip yourself with true art, with the skill set.
- [46:34]
A
Yeah.
- [46:34]
B
So this way you're not desperate for opportunity because you create your own opportunity.
- [46:40]
A
Yes.
- [46:40]
B
I don't want to put somebody in something just so I can sleep with them. That's the law. I'd rather not sleep with you.
- [46:45]
A
Yeah.
- [46:46]
B
And just have you work with me, because that's great. I don't want to sleep with you if you sleep with me. I don't want you in my movie. I won't be around that all day long. Every. Hi, honey. That takes my energy away when I'm on set. And anytime people want to deplete you in that way, it's wrong and it's toxic. And I will tell people, people, don't sleep with.
- [47:05]
A
And this is in every industry also. Not just a lot of times. We hear about it in Hollywood, hear the concept of what people think Illuminati is. But it's in every industry. Politics. It's in the corporate offices. Anytime somebody asks you to do something you don't want to do that you feel you have to do because it's going to get. That's pretty much in my mind, the vibes of Illuminati. Don't say it because it'll be one thing after. Don't do it. It's one thing after the next, after the next, after the next. That's what that means to me. It's not as plain and dry that I think people have.
- [47:31]
B
If you have the skill set, you never need to do that. Right. If you look at, like In Living Color, Kenan equipped J. Lo with confidence. You are a brand. You're not just a dancer. You know what? You are a good singer. You can even be a better singer if you train. You know what you are? You're the biggest movie star in the world. What does Julia Roberts or Meg Ryan have that you don't have? And it's the possibility to teach people how to dream and to believe in themselves. Don't believe in the wizard of Oz. I am not The. The person pulling the strings. When people are pulling those puppet strings, they don't love you. People that love you just equip you with knowledge and the confidence that if you go out there and you get it, then. And that's why people love Kenan.
- [48:14]
A
Yes. Cause he tell you to invest in your damn selves. Not always coming out here with your hands out because they ain't gonna invest in the vision you want for you.
- [48:21]
B
Absolutely.
- [48:22]
A
And I mean, I just want to point on this. I think after, obviously everything was Scary Movie, you guys went and did Haunted House and broke off of your own complete investment. I just want you to just fool them real quick on how y' all did that.
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B
What happened was, you know, that's a movie I really was trying to do with my brothers, but my brothers were doing other things. And I was just like. And I remember I sat down with Kenan and I was just like, listen, I don't want your approval. And this was me growing up. I said, I just want your blessing. I have this thing that I wanna do. He was like, go ahead and do it. I got this vision of this. Okay, bet. And I remember they were doing Scary Movie 5. And I remember how that felt for me and my family. We didn't like it, and we knew we had more to give and how the franchise was ripped from us after Scary Movie 2. And, you know, I was just like, all right, well, I'm gonna create something new. Like we always do. I'm gonna create something new. When they canceled Wayne's Brothers, we was like, great. We're doing Scary movie. Just cause one monkey don't stop a show. Just cause one door closes, $1,000 open. So when Scary Movie was happening before it even happened, I was like, here's the next thing I want to do. Haunted House. Me and Rick sat down and we did that for a million and a half dollars. So I went back. $19 million was the first Scary Movie budget. I didn't have that. I had a million and a half dollars. And we wrote the movie. We did it in one location. Mike Titus, who's now the director of Haunted house, Haunted House 2, 50 Shades of Black and Naked, now as the director on scary movie 6. And so bless that brother too. Movie became huge. A haunted house. We opened at $18 million. We made the movie for a million and a half dollars. So we was already in the black first weekend. And so it's just teaching you that you always bet on yourself. I got the skill set. You can't steal my skill Set, you could take the franchise. Eventually, people gonna be, no, that. That's. That bull. That don't taste like Wayans. That's kfc. That ain't Popeye Chicken. I know the difference between audience ain't dumb. And so what I'm happy about is with Scary Movie 6, they get a combination of everything that I've learned over the years and a more seasoned group of artists bringing you, taking us back to the franchise that we created. Cause they don't know what to do with Frankenstein. The only person that knows what to do with Frankenstein is Dr. Frankenstein.
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Dr. Frankenstein.
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So they got Dr. Frankenstein back and scary movie six, we're gonna knock that out the park.
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A
I'm so excited. I just wanted to say that because I think a lot of times, you know, today, especially with our community, we spend so much time thinking about getting the validation from this place or that place or I need this person to say, all you need is you to say. And if you rock with it, and you got two people that's rocking with you, and they gonna help you make it to the finish line, that's all you need. And I think, you know, you guys are a great example of that.
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And you know what? We feel good. You know, what flowers are to us. Watching people like you that come along and pave the way for the next generation and still give the forefathers their love and their flowers and to know that we do it so that you can see it, so that you can do it so they can see it. So you keep doing you. And I'm glad that as peers and as artists, we're gonna do something big and great together. And thank you for having me on your podcast.
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A
Thank you for being here. You know, you and your family, y' all mean so much, so much.
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B
Thank you.
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A
Okay, wait.
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B
And I love your daddy. He gave me the biggest hug.
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A
Cause we love you.
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B
My daddy. One who told us Gang, gang daddy.
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A
He gave me the history on y' all family when I was yay high. So wait a minute. We gotta play a game. It'll be quick. It's called one's gotta go. I'm gonna give you a list of different things in different categories that are meaningful.
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B
This is the part that I get in trouble. This the part that get me canceled. Gone.
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A
These categories are stacked with beloved black staples. And, I mean, you know, one's got to go. Okay, so here we go.
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B
Well, besides this shirt that sells on my thing, I want to say I have a cigar line, Liga Tridente, if you need it. Check it out. Fox cigars online@foxcigars.com they sell my cigars, Ligo Chedente. Made in Honduras. And they're killing right now.
- [52:31]
A
How come everybody gets an accent when they say Honduras?
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B
Because you have to. You have to respect the culture. You know what I mean? And then he never said that.
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A
Honduras.
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B
Honduras. And then you have to roll the R's. Honduras. And then you can get this shirt on at Marlon Wayans. Marlon Wayans.com and these pants, I designed these. No, I don't have a name for them, but I designed them. I was like, I'm impressed. Some skinny Kravitz jeans. You know what I mean?
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A
Okay, one's gotta go. Rap legends. Tupac, Biggie, Nas, Jay Z. Yeah, get ready to Tupac, Biggie, Nas, Jay Z.
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B
Tupac, Biggie, Nas, Jay Z.
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A
Completely unfair.
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B
Here's the thing. I'm gonna keep it a buck, all right? And I've known. I met all them.
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A
You met all of them?
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B
Yeah, I met em all.
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A
You met Tupac and Biggie?
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B
Above the real. Me and Tupac were like. Me and Tupac were friends. That was my.
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A
What was he like? Would he have liked me?
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B
Funny as hell. Funny as hell was. He would have liked you.
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A
Why would that be the question?
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B
That's crazy. You want me to hook you up with Tupac? He's dead. But I just wanna know he would've hit this. That's all I wanna know. Cause I love his eyelashes. I want my baby to have eyelashes like Tupac.
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A
Skin was gorgeous. Eyelashes, everything. Okay.
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B
Anyway, Pac was a good dude, so. And with that said, I'm an East coast hip hop dude.
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A
Well, yeah, y'. All from you from New York.
- [53:57]
B
So you talking about Jay, Big, Pac and Nas? Pac gotta go.
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A
Aww.
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B
I love him like a bro. And I love Dear Mama, but come on, man. Nas, I love Nas. Nas, Nas. Even later on in life, his new albums is even as good as his old albums. Jay Z, come on. You gotta put Jay in the top. Because Jay Z's first billionaire in the game and a huge brand. And he married to Beyonce. How you not. Come on, man. He get 10 more points. Cause he married to Beyonce.
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A
I agree. Cause Beyonce, come on. 90s black sitcom kings. Martin, the Fresh Prince of Bel Air, the Jamie Foxx show, the Wayans Brothers.
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B
You trying to get me in trouble? I ain't gonna say. The Wayans Brothers, y'.
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A
All.
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B
We live sin. Somebody else gotta die tonight. You know?
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A
I love you.
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B
Gonna die tonight.
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A
Rest in peace, pops. Oh, he's the Best.
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B
The best man.
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A
The best.
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B
Bang, bang, bang.
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A
Oh, my gosh. I loved him so much.
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B
We didn't make it to NBC because NBC wanted to. We did the table read, and they thought he was too ghetto. And they wanted us to have a different father than us. They get like a Danny Glover type. And we was like, no, love Danny.
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A
But also, I love.
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B
It's the flavor of the show. We was like, it's John Witherspoon or it's not. Or it's nowhere or it's not. Or we ain't gonna do the show. And they was like, well, negro, you're not doing the show. And so we was like, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on. Danny Glover, you say? But then, you know, the WB was starting, and it was like, I think that's a great combination. So everything is God. One man's trash is another man's treasure. And it's not about the doors that close. It's the ones that open up. So with that said, you said Martin, who I called Fresh Prince. Martin made me laugh even when we was doing Wayne's Brothers. So he's off. I gotta put Martin over to the side.
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A
Fresh Prince of Bel Air and the Jamie Foxx Show.
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B
It's between Jamie and Will. Why you doing this?
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A
This is so fun.
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B
Okay, now, only because what happened. You said, who went home? No, only because of this. I just played, so I have an attachment now. I would have said Jamie Foxx.
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A
Okay.
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B
I would said Will Smith. Fresh Prince Bel Air. Gotta go. Fresh Prince. Gotta go box. I would have said that.
- [56:23]
A
You would have.
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B
I would have.
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A
But you are.
- [56:26]
B
Here's why. Because my son, I'm a Waynes Brothers type of. I like poor people's perspective of comedy. Cause that's where I come from. I come from the blue collar. I come from, hey. Looking in the closet and go, I don't know what we gonna eat today. Okay, what do we got? We got rice, eggs, and flour. We gonna have rice, eggs, flour, soup. You know, don't sound delicious, but that's what we got.
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A
But it's gonna get.
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B
And Martin just has that ghetto appeal in his physical. And Jamie. Cause he could sing and all that. Will. Fresh Prince. My son loves Fresh Prince.
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A
Because you said will.
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B
No, listen. No, not that. Will ain't funny. Will's funny, but my son like Fresh Prince. Cause he grew up. He is the Fresh Prince. He goes to the private schools. I don't know about private school, except we used to jump to the. And they had nice equipment to steal from. They had good Walkmans. So you want a good Walkman, Go to a private school. They got the Sonys with the sport one. They can drop them water for like five seconds. Here's the thing. So with that said, I just did so fresh. Let her go. No, I did.
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A
You were good. You played the dad. You were so deep on there.
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B
And it got me invested. So now I love Jamie and I love Bentley. Evans is one of my best friends. So I don't. Will gotta go. I'm sorry. Fresh Prince gotta go.
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A
It's done.
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B
Cause Will don't hang out. Me and Will don't hang out. So I gotta look at Bentley tomorrow when we smoking cigars. But we gonna pick him. So I want you to know. Hey, Bent. You know what I mean? Now, I may be fired off Press Bel Air, but, hey, nigga, they canceled anyway.
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A
He just dropped it. Breaking news.
- [58:04]
B
No, that's the fourth season.
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A
I'm playing.
- [58:05]
B
I'm playing and I'm on the fourth season. I'm sorry, Jamie. Gotta go. You ain't getting me fired. What if they decide to come back for season five?
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A
Pick one.
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B
Goodbye, Jamie. Jamie Foxx show. Gotta go.
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A
Movie franchises. Friday. Scream. House Party. Madea.
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B
White people gotta go. Scream. Gotta go. I am not gonna do that to any of our establishments. House Party brand. I'm not gonna hate on the Friday's brand. Ice Cube. As a fellow brother in this industry, we have too much to work toward. I can't go. Hey. Nah. Scream.
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A
Spy Wes Craven.
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B
Scream. Gotta go.
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A
We love you.
- [58:37]
B
Them white boys gonna work again. You know they gonna be fine.
- [58:41]
A
Okay.
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B
They gonna be fine. Nev Campbell gonna eat.
- [58:44]
A
I have another really hard one. I have another really hard.
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B
Stop doing this.
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A
This'll be the last one.
- [58:49]
B
Why you be starting fights? I didn't come on here for this. You got nice lotion legs. Go on. Make sure you lotion yourself. Cause I'm used to a half dry foot, but yours is all the way through. Like, between takes, you got somebody oiling your foot.
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A
No. Marlon, you were so funny. Okay, iconic black TV moms. Aunt Viv. Yeah, exactly. Oh, because here it comes. Aunt Viv.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Florida Evans.
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B
Damn.
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A
Damn, Damn. Harriet Winslow. Lisa Landry.
- [59:24]
B
From what? From what? From what?
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A
Sister. Sister.
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B
Okay, Sister. Sister.
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A
Tia.
- [59:29]
B
Who else?
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A
So Harriet Winslow.
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B
Yeah. That's the mother on the Winslow show.
- [59:35]
A
That's the mother on the Winslow show. That's the mother on Family Matters.
- [59:37]
B
Okay? Now, if this was Urkel's mother, I'd have a harder time.
- [59:40]
A
It ain't Urkel's mama. You know what was so crazy is Urkel came on that show. That was Harriet's show.
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B
I know, but that's.
- [59:47]
A
Urkel came on there talking about something. Did. I knew that.
- [59:49]
B
But that's crazy.
- [59:50]
A
And it was.
- [59:51]
B
Now we call it Urkel because when you come to do something, there's no such thing as small parts. There's only such thing as small acts.
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A
And he actually was not even. I think he was like, maybe a recurring role.
- [60:02]
B
He was like the guest, funny as hell.
- [60:04]
A
And came on and literally by the eighth season, he was going to space.
- [60:09]
B
I just want.
- [60:10]
A
What the. The hell. He went from Stephan no Urkel to.
- [60:16]
B
Stepon when he could step on and try to be cute. I was like, man, if you don't get this grown man out these. When his voice changed, like, I do that. Come on.
- [60:24]
A
Yeah, he was. Yeah, I was like. It went from did I do that? To did I do that? It's like.
- [60:31]
B
And who was the next one?
- [60:32]
A
Aunt Viv. You know Aunt Viv. Either one light skinned or brother, I.
- [60:37]
B
Can'T get rid of them because he already got rid of her. So I'm not gonna do that to Aunt Viv. She ain't gonna get a bullet from Will Smith and one for Marlon. I ain't gonna do that. Then I'll be in the reunion episode and we gonna cry together.
- [60:50]
A
You know, I found out that the Aunt Viv that replaced the original Aunt Viv is married to Tim Reed, the father on Sister Sister.
- [60:59]
B
And I love Tim Reid, so I can't.
- [61:00]
A
And he's a pioneer and I can't hire freaking there. Okay. Anyway, back to.
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B
Who's my other option?
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A
Florida Evans.
- [61:08]
B
No, that's. You can never. That's crazy. That's Black Mom Goddess. Right?
- [61:12]
A
You know what I mean, Harriet Winslow. I know who you're gonna pick. Or Lisa Landry. Harriet Winslow. Family matters. Lisa Landry.
- [61:34]
B
Ah, man, you gonna have me beat up at the next NAACP award. I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say light skin.
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A
Au Viv gotta go.
- [61:44]
B
She gotta go.
- [61:45]
A
You went back and did a reverse. On the reverse.
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B
Okay, Lisa Landry. Cause I ain't watching a lot of Sister sisters. Apparently.
- [61:49]
A
You did Jack A. Harry.
- [61:51]
B
Oh, no, you can't get rid of Jack A. Harris.
- [61:53]
A
That's what I done said.
- [61:55]
B
You can't get rid of Jack A. Harris.
- [61:56]
A
Exactly right.
- [61:59]
B
Them hips on 227. You know how many times my young self masturbated?
- [62:03]
A
Oh, now why did you get Jack K. Involved?
- [62:06]
B
Wow, that's back when you could actually Touch yourself to sitcoms. You can't do that no more. Government don't allow for that. Oh, I'm wrong. I did it to cartoons. Smurfette got it. She should be pregnant right now with a little black baby.
- [62:18]
A
One thing I have to tell you that blew my mind is your level of honesty. When you sat up there on Ellen saying that you told Tiffany Haddish, you know, she had to get it together, whatever like that. I just had to pause for a minute because I love her.
- [62:31]
B
But, you know, a lot of people.
- [62:32]
A
Don'T know how to tell people no.
- [62:34]
B
But she told me. She asked me why she never did. And I was just like. Because at the time, you wasn't ready. Now she ready, it's different. And I was actually. When I was saying what she was then, and I was giving her flowers for who she was now, and I don't know if part of her was like, yeah, now you gotta give me my flowers. But I meant that because I be seeing y' all when y' all young. And to see you develop into the artist, you gotta understand, big bro is always proud. I have nothing but love for every last single one of my brothers and sisters. You can always ask me for anything. I will give you advice. I'm always here.
- [63:10]
A
But some people ask and people don't tell em. They'll never know, you know, or some people don't. You know what I mean? So I thought it was cool that whether it was. However it was received, I know you said it with love and I said.
- [63:19]
B
It, too, that you have blossomed into this thing and now you ready, because she is. And I love Tiff. And I think, you know, we haven't seen the best of her yet. I think she has so much more to give, and I'm proud of her. Keep getting your checks, mama.
- [63:33]
A
Period. I love you. You're amazing. Thank you for giving me so much.
- [63:35]
B
Now that you're gonna get me beat up by the whole black community. God damn sure. Who do we pick on the light.
- [63:40]
A
Skin anvil you said light skin unveil because you found out that Lisa Landry is Jack.
- [63:45]
B
Hey, I'm gonna go with the Winslow mother.
- [63:49]
A
She lost her show and now she's gotta go.
- [63:52]
B
I'm sorry. Well, she just. She's lost a lot, you know?
- [63:54]
A
But you know what? She's sugar mama on proud family.
- [63:57]
B
Yeah. You know, she gotta go. I'm sorry. You asking me these hard questions, yo. All right, one. Gotta go. I'm gonna ask you one.
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A
Okay? Okay. I'm excited.
- [64:16]
B
Kenan, Damon, Kim, Sean, Marlon, one of them gotta go. Oh, oh. We'll be back. When you see the Marlon Wayans podcast, I'm let you chew on that for.
- [64:31]
A
A couple of years, because that's really.
- [64:35]
B
Now you know how I feel when you ask me all these damn questions.
- [64:37]
A
Because how could you say one's gotta go?
- [64:39]
B
You know what I'm saying? Cause I be tell you right now, I be dead as hell. In my eyes. I'd be like, marlon, gotta go.
- [64:49]
A
Marlon's not going anywhere. Marlon, you're my favorite.
- [64:52]
B
Yeah, but I'm not my favorite. I gotta go.
- [64:57]
A
All right, y'. All.
- [64:59]
B
Did I just commit suicide on your show?
- [65:05]
A
That was so much more than jokes, y'.
- [65:08]
B
All.
- [65:08]
A
Marlon knows comedy isn't just about making people laugh, but it's about surviving, healing, and telling the truth, even when it's uncomfortable. And we can all try to find the light in the hard times. Laughter has certainly gotten me through so much in my life, and I know I'm not alone in that. And Marlon's movies and honesty. I mean, honestly, his whole family have been making me laugh since I was a kid. From In Living Color to White Chicks to Haunted House, the Wayans have been a constant source of joy for me. So having Marlon here today wasn't just special, it was personal. Y' all love you, and you know it's your girl. Baby, this is. This is Kiki. Baby, this is Kiki Palma. Yeah.