Ever wondered why progressive protesters often look... off? Why certain ideologies seem to spread like a virus, tanking fertility and promoting anti-life ideas? In this episode, we dive deep into Edward Dutton’s “Spiteful Mutants” theory — the idea that relaxed natural selection since the Industrial Revolution has allowed harmful genetic mutations to pile up, creating people who are not only low-fitness themselves but actively sabotage everyone else’s reproductive success. Think zombies, but real, walking among us.

We cover:

* How “spiteful mutants” explain everything from trans activism and antinatalism to atheism, BLM zealotry, and declining testosterone.

* Why progressive crowds resemble Rocky Horror Picture Show characters — but without the joy, just spite.

* The dark side of consent myths, age-of-consent debates, porn legalization saving kids from assault (yes, the data is wild), and why some leftists normalize predatory behavior.

* Parasites, modernity’s mismatches (processed food, EMF weirdness, sedentary life), and why we’re all a bit “mutated” now.

* The brutal choices ahead: germline editing, embryo selection, active eugenics in communities, or slow dysgenic collapse.

If you’re building a high-fitness family or just trying to understand why society feels increasingly deranged, this is for you. Shoutout to Jolly Heretic Ed Dutton for popularizing the concept.

Watch our other deep dives on urban monoculture, pronatalism, and human biodiversity. Subscribe for more unfiltered takes on saving civilization — one baby at a time.

Episode Transcript

Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today. Today we are gonna dive in to the concept of spiteful mutants,

Have you tried not being a mutant?

Malcolm Collins: which is a theory that most famously, ed Dutton has promoted the jolly

Simone Collins: her to himself.

Malcolm Collins: Golly Heretics been on the show, printed the show. We, he was one of the people we got in trouble for associating with, would Hope Not Hate did a piece on us.

How

Simone Collins: very Dare We? And I think he tried to warn everyone that like, Hey. Yeah. But it was after we had met was the guy, this guy’s fake. Yeah. I, I don’t, I don’t think we heard from him about this or they, he was just like, no one asked me. But like, I knew from the beginning that they were super suspicious anyway.

Yeah. Called late Ed.

Malcolm Collins: Well, no, what I like is, is Ed Dutton’s concept of Spiteful Mutant has entered the popular lexicon of the modern, right? Yeah. As much as munch as small bugs a cathedral or our. [00:01:00] Concept of the urban monoculture. It’s something that you hear across platforms, across users. Mm-hmm.

It’s just a useful way to, but what’s funny is the urban monoculture and the cathedral are sort of synonyms. I, I guess the cathedral describes the, really, it refers to the

Simone Collins: bureaucratic operation. The urban monoculture refers to the, the culture. Mm-hmm.

Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Yeah. The, the wider cultural system. Mm-hmm.

And people have asked us to do, why, why don’t you do your just urban monoculture video? And we’ve done a, a number of videos that could be the just urban monoculture video, but like, we’ve got fans and they don’t want to hear us go over something they already know about. Right? Yeah.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Tell us something we don’t know.

That’s the point. Yeah. Wes, the point issue. Let’s talk about spiteful mutants. ‘cause not everyone knows them. I think everyone can immediately understand though what is being referred to when someone talks about spiteful mutants, which I think is why the concept has caught on. It becomes so widespread.

Malcolm Collins: I, I’m gonna point, I actually I did not fully get, I actually had to go back to it because I was sort of thinking in my head, right, [00:02:00] like what I assumed that he meant by spiteful mutants is there was some sort of evolutionary mechanism that was causing some human animals to attempt to sabotage the reproductive success of animals around them or related to them.

When they were not having success in reproducing I assumed that it was describing some mechanism where that happened. And I just couldn’t think of like, what, what would be the biological mechanism there? Like how, how would that evolutionarily benefit anything? And that actually isn’t spiteful mutant theory.

So I’m actually wondering what, what did you think the spiteful mutant theory is before I go into it,

Simone Collins: that people who end up being progressive are in various other ways? Either through their life choices or just through unfortunate circumstances of birth malformed in various ways. And that you tend to see a correlation between people who are more [00:03:00] unkempt or intentionally.

Mutilated, like, well, septum, piercings, face tattoos or like, just, just general like markings or o obesity, like various elements that people associate with just not making the best decisions. Hair dying, that kind of thing, like weird colors or whatever. Mm-hmm. Either through choice or through circumstance ending up in these positions.

Malcolm Collins: So, that’s close and I’ll give you guys a, a quick summary of what the actual theory is because I’ve gone over a few of his videos just to make sure that I understand like where he’s coming from. Yeah, that’s true. ‘cause

Simone Collins: we, we, I, I haven’t actually consumed any of his. His original, this is what it is.

I’ve heard him mention them in passing, just like we do with the urban monoculture. So Fair point. Yes.

Malcolm Collins: I’ll, I’ll give a high level overview and then I’ll go into the, the details and I’ll also go over, you know, whether this is a useful concept, a useful framing or a true framing and concept. So specifically it sort of starts with just look at a lineup of like progressive [00:04:00] protesters.

They look. Malformed, they look weird. They look out of the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Right.

Speaker 3: We don’t want to interfere with their celebrations. This isn’t the Junior Chamber of Commerce, Brad.

They’re probably foreigners with ways different than our own.

Speaker 6: I’m just a sweet

trans.

Speaker 5: Day for the night, or maybe a bite bite. I could show you my favorite obsession.

Malcolm Collins: And Simone doesn’t like that. I point that out. But the, the the, when I see that and I see progressive protesters, it’s the same. Everyone looks a little bit deformed and off.

Simone Collins: Yeah. But my problem with, with your comparison to the Rocky Horror Picture Show is those are joyful mutants.

Speaker 8: In another dimension [00:05:00] with voyeuristic intent, well secluded, I see all

Simone Collins: That is how it should be. And they’re not trying to take over the world. They’re, they’re literally, spoiler alert aliens. No, hold on.

Malcolm Collins: Spoiler alert. Let’s actually look at the Rocky Horror Picture Show. They are a bunch of deformed humans. You can call them aliens, but they’re deformed humanoids, okay. That are like canonically.

They’re, hold on. They are gleeful at the opportunity to sexually harass and assault innocent children. That is what the show is about. They’re [00:06:00] young. The, the, the protagonists in this, in the Rocky Horror Picture Show are, I think in high school hold on, I’m gonna look this up.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Tell, let’s, let’s, let’s work that out.

I think they’re like young adults. I think they’re like a young couple. It’s just stupid and square.

Malcolm Collins: The reason why I think high school is because I think he has a Letterman jacket. I think he is noticed too,

Simone Collins: but that could be. And

Malcolm Collins: you typically have a Letterman jacket in high school, not in college.

Simone Collins: Yeah. Well, I mean, he could be a complete tool who continues to wear his Letterman jacket and college, but I’m curious to see what it says.

Malcolm Collins: So it says it depends on the source. Some high school, some college. So yes, Simone, that’s exactly what they are. They are a group of mutants getting their jollies at harassing and, and they are harassing and sexually assaulting them. Do you deny that that is the, the, the core source of joy that these mutants [00:07:00] have?

And I’d like to really point out here that the people who venerate this movie are the ones who would demonize individuals like Harvey Weinstein. It’s very clear that this is a very contextual demonization for them and that they normalize this type of behavior.

Speaker 12: So come up to the lab and see what’s on the slab. I see you shiver with

anticipation,

Speaker 15: Such strenuous living. I just don’t [00:08:00] understand.

Simone Collins: Well, the way that people on the left talk about it is that they are. Introducing them to elements of their sexuality that they didn’t even know they could explore, and that in the end, they like it

And I think that this can be seen as the core of leftist moral philosophy around sexuality. If they say they liked it afterwards, then it’s okay if you, no matter what you force ...