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Dixie de La Tour
The following podcast contains true stories of sex, kink, gender, or body image. Thanks for being a consenting adult. Cause here we go.
Peaches (performer of song lyrics)
All of my life I've never fit But I won't complain and I won't quit I am enormous.
Get used to it.
Everyone tells me I'm too much maybe it's just you're not enough for me can't you see I'm the kind of woman I'm supposed to be? Hey, my vagina is eight miles wide. Absolutely everyone can come inside. If you're ever frightened, just run and hide. My vagina is eight miles.
Kelly Dunham
What?
Dixie de La Tour
Well, hi there and welcome to the Bawdi storytelling podcast. I'm sexual folklorist Dixie Delator, and this week we have a story from non binary polyamorous storytelling nurse, comedian, ex nun Kelly Dunham. I've had a busy couple of weeks of traveling and then getting laryngitis, so I couldn't record a podcast. But I'm back and I've missed you. I want to tell you about some of the things that have happened because of body and traveling with the show. Well, I went to Portland, Oregon to go to Sex Geek Summer Camp, which is Reid Michalko's sex education camp to help people navigate the world and running a sex positive business. It's very restrictive out there in the world. Everybody's getting shadow banned. Everybody's getting shut down. Nobody wants us to talk about things like sex education that will make. Don't, Dixie. Don't go on a rant. I'm trying not to go on a rant, y'.
Kelly Dunham
All.
Dixie de La Tour
But we want to. We want to keep giving people body autonomy. We want to educate them about their bodies so that they can make choices that are right for them. And Sex Geek Summer Camp is a great way to do that. I had so much fun. It was a real struggle to get there. I went to a mechanic to have the AC treated and he blew up the electrical system on Edna. The minivan had. She may be dead, and I'm very upset about that. I still don't know what's going on. So I ended up renting a car and driving to Portland. I love driving. It's such a great way to get away and have time in my head. Listen to podcasts. I love road tripping. And when I got to camp, I was several days late because I'd been waiting on the mechanic to fix my car and everybody was firmly connected. I felt a little on the outside because I was coming in late, but it was the largest camp they'd ever had. And it was the last camp they'd ever had, so people bonded fast. We had an epic talent show. We showed love for Reed for 10 years of producing this sex education summer camp for us. Plus, there was a lot of hot action, I have to say that. And then right after camp, I had my first body in Portland in eight years, and I was nervous. You know, when you come into a city, it's just kind of like, will they get what we do? But it was the minute I walked on stage, it just felt so comfortable. The room was full. We had two great shows. First, we had a curated body storytelling. And there's this thing I love to do at the show, which is give people a reason to communicate with each other. We all know it's hard to connect, and the world's getting harder all the time, so I like helping people connect. You may have heard me on, I believe, the last podcast episode. I read an email from say who said that they had just moved to Portland, they'd bought tickets and were gonna be at the show. And they wondered if, since bawdy gets you laid, can bawdy help you make friends? Because they were having a very hard time making friends in port. And from what I understand, that's not uncommon. Portland is known for that. So at a certain point in the show, I announced, hey, is sei here? In the audience, people looked confused. And then eventually, someone on the second row went, I'm Sei could not see them. It was dark. So I reached out, put out my hand. They climbed a couple of steps to hold my hand, and I pulled them up on stage. They were so nervous being on stage that their shaking while holding my hand was shaking my voice on stage. That's never happened before. And I said, y' all say just moved here from Albuquerque and is having a hard time making friends. And that's what body does. Body connects you in every sort of way. And I'm gonna put out the call. I want y' all to make say feel welcome here in your city. I got an email early the next morning to say, dixie, thank you so much. I have a feeling your Portland show may have changed my life. I got some numbers and some cards as well as some Instagram handles, and I'm really excited to see what they bring. To me, the show was incredible. It blew my expectations out of the water and the atmosphere in that room. Someday soon, I hope to be as cool as the people at your shows. Well, guess what? Say you were at the show. You are that cool. And that made me so happy to know that it worked. The next thing I did that night was there was somebody who was at Sexgeek Summer camp who had told me they were about to turn 50 and they would be celebrating at camp that week. Well, the show in Portland came together really fast. Usually if you're doing a show in a new city, it takes months and months to put together. But we put this one together in about a month. The venue wanted us so bad, they moved something off the night to put us in, because you can't usually get a date a month out. Have to wait three months to be able to lock down a night. But they put us in. We loved working with Curious Comedy Theater. In fact, I'm talking to them this week about bringing the show back to Portland. And when I announced that Body was happening right after summer camp, Jen, the person who was turning 50 said, oh, my God, this was my birthday wish. I've been listening to Bawdi Storytelling's podcast for years. I finally get to a live show. I've had that wish for years. That's my 50th birthday wish. Well, now that I know that, I sent somebody and had them do reconnaissance to find out what Jen's favorite cake was. Have them go get the cake and all the fixin so that we could have cake at the show. And right after I pulled say up on stage, I said, hey, Jen, can you get up here on stage? Set them on a stool, and had my stage manager bring out the cake with all the candles. I leaned over Jen's shoulder and said, it's your birthday. Make a wish. And the next morning, I got a text that said, dixie, I want to tell you what that birthday wish was. I had gone on field, and I had looked for a date in Portland to go to Bawdy storytelling with me. And I found somebody very last minute to be my date. We went out, and I had the best date of my life. We went out to dinner. We were really connecting. And then we went to the show. He'd never heard of your podcast, and he was a super fan within minutes. And then he called me up on stage and he got to see you and everybody sing me happy birthday. And when I wished on those birthday candles, I wished that this partner and I could really connect. Got a text the next day to say, well, it's happening. I had one of the best nights of my life, and he's already bought a plane ticket to come visit me in Wisconsin. So I'm very proud to say that Bodi can get you friends. It can get you love. The hardest thing is getting out of your own way and asking for it. And since people don't know who to ask, they usually ask me because I love doing that. I love helping you get the things you want in life. I know how hard it is to ask, and I'm so grateful to Sei and Jen for asking for my help. I love doing live shows, but I have to say that's the thing that you cannot replicate anywhere else. Being in a live show, surprising somebody and saying that thing you asked me for, let's make it happen right here, right now. All these people are gonna help us make it happen. It's like magic. And I want to say that Portland, I'm in love with you. I've heard the fuss for such a long time, but Portland has never been one of those cities that I was sure could work. And I feel like I can't wait to go back and do it again. I'm also working on some new tour dates. I'll have an announcement for you, I hope very soon, but this is what I love to do. Podcasting is a way to share these stories with you, but the live shows. There is nothing like a live show. Well, I'm doing it starting on Monday, July 22nd. I'm going to be teaching how to be body Dixie's secret system for uncensored storytelling. Have you ever wondered how people learn to tell these stories? Well, I have a special system and it makes it easy and fun. It helps you find your own noteworthy systems in your life. It helps you talk about sex, kink, gender or body image in an engaging, relatable way. And you'll get training on my system and custom coaching from me starts on Monday, July 22nd and each week we'll have optional office hours where you can get custom coaching from me. I'm planning some tour dates really soon, so I'm squeezing this six week course in before I start that. I love teaching storytelling and I'd love to work with you on your story. There's a link in the show notes. Space is limited so sign up now. I have a story I want to share with you and this one happened while I was on my east coast tour back in January and February. Beginning of March of this year, this story happened in New York City and as Kelly told this story, we had a medical emergency in the audience. In the middle of her story, Kelly jumped off stage and instantaneously shifted from storyteller to nurse to help out with the medical emergency. And then jumped back on stage to finish her story. And I checked in with Kelly to let her know that she was going to be on the podcast this week and she let me know that that show resulted in three dates with audience members. Three dates off of one performance at Body Body gets you laid, y'.
Kelly Dunham
All.
Dixie de La Tour
So let me tell you about this week's storyteller. Kelly Dunham is a non binary ex nun, polyamorous storytelling nurse comedian. You know, that thing that is so common in modern Brooklyn. Kelly has appeared on Showtime and the Discovery Channel, PBS Stories from the Stage, the Moth Main Stage, the Cinderblock Comedy Festival, the Women in Comedy Festival, and has appeared nationwide at colleges, pride festivals, fundraisers, and oh so many nursing conferences and even the occasional livestock auction. Kelly's latest show, Second Helping, is coming to Ithaca, New York this week on July 12th, to Ann Arbor, Michigan on August 2nd, and Oshkosh, Wisconsin. That is a hard word to say on August 16th if you hate live shows. Second Helping with Kelly Dunham Kelly's hilarious and earnest new podcast, inspired by all the questions she gets about asking for receiving and learning how to accept help, is produced by Kenna Hora Production and debuting earlier this fall. Sign up to be the very first to know when it premieres. You can also find Kelly on Kelly's Substack, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok and Facebook and there's a link to all of those in the show notes. By the way, former New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio once called Kelly a show off to her face. This storyteller is Kelly Dunham.
Kelly Dunham
So ex nun. That's another story. Also involves a surprising amount of sex. Or maybe a not at all surprising amount of sex, perhaps. So before I was age 40, I had two partners in a row die of cancer. That is not the sexy part of this story, in case you're confused. But you know what? Turn to the person on your right and say it's okay to laugh at the funny parts. It doesn't work right? When everyone turns to the person on their right, you're just saying it to somebody's butt. So sorry about that, but I need to loosen you up a little bit. All right, so had two partners in a row passed away from cancer. Now the great thing about losing two partners in a row, the lucky thing is that you get better at it. You know, Now I know when somebody's about to compare the death of my partner to the death of their guinea pig, I can stop them. You know, I can see it coming, something in the eyes and I Knew what to do. I joined a grief group. I did bad stand up comedy about death. So my first grief group after my first partner died was fantastic. The second grief group, I went to the same LGBT center, but they had had a budget cut, but they decided to have the group anyway. So they got this very sweet, cisgendered, heterosexual, mousy woman in her last semester of a MSW program to coordinate our group full of angry, raw queers. We weren't having a good time, but she was not having a good time either. And the thing about grief groups is, as it turns out, people of all different kinds die. This is a common experience. And so our grief group was full of, like, older men and young, you know, like almost youth and me and whatever I am. And there were these two matching twinks. We started calling them the twin Twinks. I will not call them the twin Twinks because that is way too hard to say. I will call them the two tiny twinks. And they had little, like matching butts and matching Levi's 501s. And unfortunately for our group leader, it was like she was majoring in problematic cliches. She kept saying, healing is possible. Which, you know, we agreed that was possible. It just didn't feel probable. And also, if you say it in a sing song enough voice, everything sounds wrong, you know. And at one point she said to our very diverse group of queer people sitting in a room, she said, well, you know, maybe if you all tried to move on with your lives. So we turned as a group on her, and if you. At that moment, she had to be wishing she was having a root canal, you know, somewhere else. It looked like she was going to shit her pants. And she quickly apologized, but we never forgave her. And I love my people. I love my people, but we are extremely stubborn. In fact, I would say if there was a collective noun for my people, it would be stubborn. Never mess with a stubborn of queers. So we started going out to the diner after group. We would all continue to go to group because, hey, free mental health care. But we would go to the diner afterwards and tell the stories that we should have been telling at group and cry a lot and that waitstaff did not get paid enough. We tried to leave big tips. Anyway, as we left the diner, we would split up and go to the subway. And the two tiny twinks would always go the opposite way, more towards the river in New York. And I just assumed that they were going to a bar. And they weren't specifically mentioning that because they Knew some of the group was in recovery. So one day I invited myself along and they were like, oh, Kelly, we're not going to the bar. And they said, we're doing something more fun. The bar didn't even sound like fun to me, but I thought it was. What they thought was fun was. So I was like, what are you guys doing? And they said, come on, more fun. And I was kind of awestruck. They were going cruising, and I was awestruck. Not because I'm a prude. I have spent many of the happiest nights of my life at play parties and. And dungeons and, you know, somebody's living room that's made up like the Star Trek Enterprise bridge in that weird way where you have a play party and you have Star Trek people and they just completely overlap in the Venn diagram. I wasn't against public sex when everyone involved is consenting. I just. These guys, I knew how emotionally devastated they were. I couldn't believe that they were connecting in this way to men. And they're like, no, it's not like that. Sometimes when you can't connect emotionally, the physical connection makes all the difference. And so that night, I went out with them as the lookout, which is. Do I need to explain what a lookout is? Just look out. Yeah, you just. It's not that complicated. I don't think I need to go into it anyway. So I did that for a while, and I was just so amazed. It gave me so much joy to see these guys that were so, so, so sad. Some of them also had lost. Were losing a second partner. So these were guys that are just emotionally devastated in the same way as I was. But to see them come alive was so amazing. We did that, I don't know, six, seven weeks in a row. And then they invited me out to Fire Island. That's the island of my people. And to be a lookout. And I was like, oh, yeah, that sounds fantastic. Fire Island's expensive. I would love to go on the lookout scholarship, please. So our very first night out, we went to the place known as the meat rack, which is an area of, like, scrubby pines in between two of the gay areas on Fire Island. And it's where men go to have public sex. And so we got out to the Meat Rack, and I was starting my. And we're having this conversation. I guess because we were in the wilderness, they got, like, a little bit, I don't know, unnerved because one guy's like, okay, if you see somebody coming, make the noise of a Whippoorwill. And I was like, a whippoorwill. You have watched some weird movies and related them to your life in a way they don't relate at all. And I said, you know, really, if somebody's coming, I'm going to cough or say, hey, somebody's coming. I think that will be simple. Well, we're kind of bantering about what exactly my cue was going to be. And then we heard somebody coming from behind us. And he said something and I didn't. It was not a phrase I was familiar with, but I knew what he meant. And so in my head I always think that he said to me, bottoms up. That's not actually what he said, but that is what he meant. And then one of the tiny twinks said, oh, no, Kelly's not. And then as he looked at me as he was saying this, he saw to his great surprise and mine, that I was nodding up in my head like. And he said, oh, Kelly just got done being lookout. And so the guy moved in front of me and he was this, he was obviously, he had that look of a well heeled gay man who had been on his way to dinner but decided to have an appetizer in first, you know, and he looked me in the face, not maybe knowing what I started life as or what I was assigned at birth. And he said, you are delicious. This man in penny loafer said I was delicious. And then it's pretty hard to argue with that, no matter how emotionally pulverized your heart is. And then I remembered that I maybe did not have the equipment he would be looking for. And so I was like, oh, how the hell am I gonna say that? So I just said, but with less confidence, oh, I don't think I have the equipment you may be looking for. And he was so sweet, you know, penny loafer guy. He just stared at me for like, what, it must have been a full minute. And he thought, and he said, let's give it. And he continued, an asshole is an asshole. So I looked over and the tiny, two tiny twinks were just beaming, you know, like it was their proudest moment ever. And they quickly ran away. And by the way, was not a lookout for me at all. And it was, it had to be less than three minutes between the time the delicious conversation happened and Mr. Penny Loafers was sticking his condom. And very extremely. I appreciate this. Well, lubricated penis inside my ass. And so he started to fuck me. And it was so amazing because I've had lots of stuff, I mean, not Lots, not hundreds of. But I've had things in my ass, right? Like, you know, a dildo, a butt plug, the occasional anal hook. But what was so amazing about his penis? Because it was attached, it was warm. It was extremely warm. And also because it was attached, he had an extremely efficient thrusting motion. And we've got both of us finished in a very, very, very short time. And he pulled out and very sweetly, like we're in the middle of nature. But he's trying not to get cum all over the sand or something, you know, I guess if you wear penny loafers, you don't want to spill your cum on the sand. So he pulled up, you know, kind of tied the condom in a note, and he came around in front and kiss me on the forehead. And that was such an amazing moment for me because what the boys had said was really true, is that when you're not, you don't have a capacity for that emotional connection. The physical connection can reach a bridge, right? It was a chance for me to.
Peaches (performer of song lyrics)
Have.
Kelly Dunham
That community without risk, without signs of domesticity, right? And Paul Monet, during the early years of the AIDS crisis, wrote that we must make love in between the bombs. And that's what it felt like to me. And it opened me up not just to that, you know, fucking in the wilderness, although that was kind of my thing for a while, but to experiencing physical pleasures in all the different ways. And hot showers, cold dicks, you know? And our failed LSW group leader might have thought that healing was possible in that room in the community center. But for me, I knew that healing could happen in between two scrub pines with a man in penny loafers trying not to spill his cum on the sand. Thank you.
Peaches (performer of song lyrics)
Sucking on my titties like you wanted me Calling me all the time that blondie Check out my chrissy behind it's fine all over the place like sex on the beaches what else is in the teachers of peaches huh what? Sucking on my titties like you wanted me Calling me all the time that Bondi Check out my chrissy behind it's fine all over the time what else is in the teachers of peaches like sex on the beaches what? Huh?
Right What? What? Right.
Right on sis IUD Stay in school cause it's the best IUD Sis stay in school cause it's the best IUD Sis stay in school cause it's the best iud S I s Stay in school cause it's the best Sucking on my titties like you wanna be calling me all the time like blondie Check out my Chrissy behind It's fine all the lexicon, the features what else is in the Teachers of Peaches huh what?
Fuck the pain away Fuck the pain away Fuck the pain away Fuck the pain away Fuck the pain away Fuck the pain away Fuck the pain away Fuck the pain away Fuck the pain away Fuck the pain away Buck the pain away Fuck the pain away Buck the pain away Buck the pain away the pain away the pain away what.
Else is in the teachers Peaches? Sex on the beach.
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Dixie de La Tour
I'm so sorry to be predictable, but is there a more perfect song for this story? That was the Pain Away by Peaches My substack, the Dixie Ramble is launching next week. I love Substack because you can not only read it, it's a newsletter, but you can also listen to it. It's audio or you can watch it. It's video. All of those options are available. I'm trying to figure out which one you want, but it's a way to continue what I started here with the podcast. If you love the Dixie Ramble, if you love to hear the stories about my life, I honestly don't get it, but you tell me you do, then you can find them there. I've got this great story in the works right now that just happened to me and as you know, my favorite thing is to help people change their lives. I think I did that. And you can read all about it in the Dixie Ramble substack. There's a link in the show notes. Be sure to sign up that Portland show you heard me talking about. You can watch it. We had it live streamed and there's a replay. You can access the replay of both the curated Main Stage Body and Body Slam, which I have to say in all my years of doing it was the weirdest body slam I've ever done. That thing they say about Portland being weird, it's true. There are several ways you can get that replay. The best one is to support us on patreon. We're at P-A T R-E-N.com B A W D Y or you can do a one time donation and I'll send you the link. I am working really hard to keep this podcast going and financial help is the way that you can ensure that we continue. There's links in our show notes to Our Cash App Venmo PayPal, Zelle Ko Fi Our Patreon Go there right now and support the podcast. And thanks for doing that. When someone takes the time to write a review for this podcast, it makes a huge difference. Not just to me, it really lifts my mood, but it also lets other people out there know that we're worth their time. There are so many options, but they'll choose this one because you took the time to tell them that you think it's worthwhile. Here's one I recently received. Don't be shy or embarrassed because this is a fun, joyous podcast. The stories are sexy, moving and educational, and you're almost guaranteed that your mood will be lifted after listening to an episode of the Body Storytelling Podcast. Thank you to the person who wrote that, and I would really love it if you'd write us a review. It kicks us up in the algorithms and it makes my day. Thank you for considering that. And while I'm saying thank you, I want to say thank you to the people who make this podcast possible. Thank you to David Grossoff, Domhnal Mooney, Mohsa Maxwell Smith, and podcast producer Roman Den Haudeker. I'm sexual folklorist Dixie de La Tour. This has been episode 296 of the Bawdy Storytelling Podcast. Thanks for listening.
Date: July 12, 2024
Host: Dixie De La Tour
Featured Storyteller: Kelli Dunham
This episode of Bawdy Storytelling centers around resilience, connection, and joy found in queer community, particularly within the context of grief and unconventional healing. Featured storyteller Kelli Dunham (nonbinary, polyamorous, ex-nun, nurse, comedian) recounts a transformative story of loss, friendship, and sexual liberation following the deaths of two partners. The show continues Bawdy’s tradition of blending raw honesty, humor, and sex-positivity through lived experience.
Storyteller: Kelli Dunham
Main Theme: Finding healing and connection through queer community and sex, in the wake of profound loss.
On the stubborn beauty of queer grief:
On physical connection during grief:
On spontaneous, affirming sex:
On queer sex as healing:
The episode blends irreverent humor, vulnerability, and sex-positivity. Dixie’s inclusive, warm style frames the stories; Kelli Dunham’s storytelling is both raw and wry, anchoring pathos in punchlines and candid sexual joy.
"A Stubborn of Queers" delivers a powerful testament to the resilience of queer community—how found family, humor, and sexuality serve as vital tools for survival after loss. The episode’s central motif: that healing can bloom in unlikely places, often outside of prescribed norms, and that authentic connection—whether platonic or carnal—remains at the heart of queer thriving.
For fans of honest, raucous, and poignant storytelling, this episode of Bawdy Storytelling does not disappoint, offering laughter, liberation, and cathartic healing with every minute.