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Hello and welcome to Nature Watch with Susie Welch. No, no. You know I love nature. But no, we are only starting with nature sounds. This week we are starting specifically with swan sounds. You knew those were swans, right? So this is the latest episode in our three part series on facing fear. Fear. And today we're going to talk about my fear. Specifically my fear of becoming me. Like the other two episodes in this series today is inspired by a listener. Right around the time that we were shaping this series on fear, a listener wrote in asking, did Susie the swan ever come back? And I thought that's our third episode. Because the story of Susie the swan is completely related to my own fear and how terrified I was when Susie the swan swan flew away. Yes, Susie the swan. She was a real swan. I had a swan. Well, she was not my swan. She lived by herself on a pond near my house. A few years ago, right after I became a widow, my husband had just died and I was grieving and I felt so unsteady, uncertain about who I was and who I should become. So let's just say I somewhat over identified with the swan to the point of naming her after myself. Which definitely freaked out my kids, but whatever. And then one day she laughed. That ended up teaching me so much about taking flight myself toward the one thing that scared me the most in life. Me alone. I'm gonna tell that story today and maybe I hope it will help you let go of something that is scaring you and take flight toward life anew. This is Becoming youg and I'm Susie Welch. Okay, let's start at the beginning of the Susie the Swan story because we have so many new listeners and a very warm welcome to you if you are new people who may not have heard the Susie the Swan saga as it unfolded a few years ago. And by the way, if you would like to go back and relive the Susie the Swan experience as it happened, it was the original episodes about Susie the Swan are in the show notes along with everything else under the sun about this podcast. But we're right here, right now. And so a quick recap. Almost exactly six years ago, on March 1, 2020, my husband died of everything. The official cause of death was kidney failure, but my husband Jack had been sick for about five years with several diseases and conditions you don't ever want to have, including cancer. And ultimately his body just surrendered. It is obviously never good to lose your spouse, your beloved. But I will say this, I was not surprised. I have a widow friend whose husband died in a cab ride home from work from a heart attack. He had never been sick a day in his life. I have another friend whose husband died when he was shaving one morning. Same thing, healthy as a teenager. And so these friends had grief and shock. I just had grief. Now, I should have been prepared, okay, not that it would have lessened it, but still, I should have been prepared because I am a savvy, generally very high functioning person. And I saw what was coming. I was going to be alone. Jack saw what was coming. And even though he did not like it at all, he repeatedly tried to talk to me about my life after he was gone. Like, he would say things like, if you're going to get remarried, Susie, please wait a year. And I would say, you know, I'm never gonna get remarried, Jack. And he would say, actually, I do know that about you, Susie. But he also tried to talk to me about the shape of my life and like, where I would live. For instance, he knew I was going to sell our place in Florida, for instance. And he would try to talk to me about that. And look, these are terrible conversations to have. The thing we talked about a lot less was work, my career, because Jack felt guilty about my career, which had been soaring along for many years. But then it pretty much went into complete hiatus when he got sick. I mean, at first, when he was sick, I tried to dodge and weave my career and its aspirations around his hospital stays and his overall general illness. But that got harder and harder until about two years before he died and I had to call cnbc where I had an online show. And I told my producer, this is it for me now. And I'M going to disappear and go take care of Jack. And she said, susie, we are here for you no matter what. Which was wonderful and I think actually true. But no one can really be there for you at such times, right? It's just you and the enemy, the sickness and then the medical industrial complex, and then eventually just you and your closest family and the hospice nurses who are saints, living saints. Anyway, while Jack was in hospice, he would alternate between talking about how he was still gonna beat this thing, which was very Jack, and how sad he was to be leaving. And occasionally he would say stuff like, look, I had a great life, now go get yours, Susie, when I'm gone. I took your life from you with this sickness, now go get your life back. And I would shake my head and I would cry and I would tell him I was gonna actually get into bed when he died and never get out, which is how I felt. I was just so exhausted.
