Part Three: Romana Didulo: Queen of Canada

Summary

Behind the Bastards – Part Three: Romana Didulo: Queen of Canada (February 10, 2026)

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode is the conclusion of a three-part deep dive into Romana Didulo, the self-declared "Queen of Canada" and a cultish internet figure whose bizarre reign blends QAnon conspiracies, faux-royal decrees, financial scams, and a caravan-based micro-cult. The hosts explore the escalation of Didulo’s activities, the lives of her followers, cult dynamics, notable real-world stunts, infamous internal drama, and the collapse and aftermath of her movement—including the emergence of even stranger “royalty.”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Peak of the “Queen’s” Power and Fakery (02:16)

• Follower Count: By late 2021, Didulo had around 70,000 Telegram followers, her movement's peak ([02:16]).
• Financial Lifelines & Scams: Amid inflation and economic troubles, Didulo issued “decrees” abolishing taxes/credit card debt and handed out downloadable, self-print "promissory notes" usable as currency supposedly backed by the "Kingdom of Canada."
  • “It’s like a promissory note that you can print out from a downloadable template… You get to write your own number in. So it's a blank check for all of your… followers.” – Host ([04:09])
• Cult Economics: She made a show of helping followers afford groceries and necessities, but the “money” and decrees were meaningless outside the group.

2. The “Laws” of Didulo’s Kingdom (05:16)

• Didulo issued three core "laws," including violent retribution:
  • “If you kill, you will be killed. If you kill en masse… we will take out your family and your DNA strain. War and division are unlawful.”
  • The hosts highlight contradictions, noting her calls to violence against professionals but prohibition on social division.

3. Cult Logistics: RV Roadshow and Donations (06:23)

• Caravan Life: By 2022, Didulo’s movement became a nomadic caravan of about a dozen followers traversing Canada, fueled by $140,000+ in donations.
• Donor Profile: Most donations came from online followers, but some inner-circle devotees signed over everything to Didulo.
• Increasing Demands: As the scam wore on, Didulo expanded her claims, offering to teach “magical powers” to loyalists, including invisibility, learning to “run a country,” and negotiating hostages ([08:23]).

4. Science Fiction Meets Delusion (09:12)

• The Tomorrow War Obsession: Didulo became obsessed with the 2021 Chris Pratt film "The Tomorrow War," especially the female alien leader, linking this to her own mythos and power fantasies.
  • “[She] idolizes the queen Alien… the queen of the white spikes is stronger than all the males… Romana seems to really, really vibe with this.” – Host ([10:13])
• DNA X Fantasy: She blended conspiracy, science fiction, and the occult: “DNA X,” a tool she’d unleash thanks to “alien DNA technology… to make you live long and be all knowing” ([11:13]).

5. Cult Hierarchy, Control, and Internal Drama (11:27)

• Uniforms & Medals: As loyalty rituals, followers donned white button-down shirts with logo patches and what appeared to be Boy Scout medals.
  • “As soon as I saw the pictures… those do look like Boy Scout medals.” – Host ([14:17])
• Extreme Micromanagement & Punishments: Didulo demanded strict obedience and punished “treason” for infractions, e.g., threatening execution for a late RV rental pickup ([15:44]).
  • “The Queen called this treason and threatened to have him executed… being shot in the head or thrown from a helicopter.” – Host summarizing former inner-circle member’s fate ([15:44])
• Psychological & Physical Deprivation: Life in the caravan meant permission needed for basic activities like showering (often denied), poor meals, and exhausting days packed with pointless busywork.
  • “People would regularly work 16 hours at a time, but… all they’re doing is maintaining the caravan and handling bullshit work for her…” – Host ([23:33])
  • “Daisy estimates that she lost between 10 and 15 pounds.” – Host referencing a follower’s account ([20:52])

6. Surreal Rituals & Cult Identity (24:55)

• Rasputin Cult Anthem: Didulo made followers listen to Boney M’s “Rasputin” for up to 10 hours, and rewrote its lyrics about herself.
  • “There lives a fearless queen Romana Didulo. She may seem quite small but she's oh so powerful…” – Host reading cult anthem ([26:25])
  • “It's all. It's like 10 hours of fucking Rasputin. And I love that song... but 10 hours of that and her obsession with it is so weird.” – Host ([25:35])

7. Purges, Collapse, and Cult Fallout (27:32)

• Staff Ejections: Didulo routinely fired followers for “betrayal,” e.g., not seeking permission to run errands.
• Excommunication Consequences: Expelled followers faced doxing, public shaming, and veiled death threats online.
  • “Maybe he should be the first to hang publicly for all the other traitors to see what to expect.” – Host quoting a follower’s threat ([30:52])
• Desperate Cling to Belonging: Some followers were devastated to be expelled, expressing a profound need for group identity.

8. Real-World Escalation: The Peterborough “Coup” (39:39)

• Failed “Arrest” of Police: In August 2022, Didulo’s group attempted to citizens-arrest the Peterborough police—believing U.S. Special Forces and a “global military alliance” would back them.
  • “Frank Curtin starts by announcing, today we are going to turn the members of the Peterborough police station over to the US Special Forces military…” ([38:40])
• Cops’ Response: Police simply locked the doors, eventually arrested six Didulo followers, while Didulo herself fled responsibility.

9. The Richmond School “Kingdom” and Final Arrest (40:55)

• Cult HQ in Defunct School: A follower invited the cult to take over a closed school in tiny Richmond, aiming to set up a new HQ.
• Community Pushback: Locals tried to evict the cult, but some residents were already financially entangled due to Didulo's influence.
• Arrested for Intimidation: In fall 2025, Didulo was finally arrested—not for major fraud/abuse, but “intimidating four people, including a police officer.”
  • “They arrested her for being weird.” – Co-host ([44:14])
• No Major Harm: Despite high-profile stunts, there were no deaths or major acts of violence tied directly to Didulo.

10. The Aftermath: New “Queens” and Internet Royalty (45:33)

• The King of America and Rival Claimants: The self-declared “King of America,” David Carlson—once an ally, then rival—now appoints new “kings and queens” globally, including a new “Queen of Canada,” Charmaine.
• Satirical “Royal Seals”: The hosts gleefully describe Charmaine’s cartoonish pink royal logo and titles—mocking the absurdity of online conspiracy hierarchies.

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• On Promissory “Currency”:
  “Real groceries with made-up money.” – Co-host ([04:01])
• On Cult Decrees:
  “If you kill en masse, commit genocide, crimes against humanity, we will take out your family and your DNA strain.” – Host quoting Didulo ([05:16])
• On RV Life:
  “She justifies these punishments… by saying, nobody controls my timeline. Anybody that screws up my timeline is going to be tried for treason and shot in the head.” – Host ([16:38])
• On Control:
  “Life inside the cult on the road. Sounds like a living hell to me… Every morning at 6 or 7am the Queen would play her favorite song, Disco supergroup Boney M’s 'Rasputin'… for the entire duration of a 10-hour drive.” – Host ([24:55])
• On Followers’ Despair:
  “She really thought it was her destiny to be there… when you finally found the thing that gives you belonging and you get kicked out, that's like losing a limb.” – Host ([29:36])
• On Police Response to Coup Attempt:
  “The cops lock the door. Just like, eh. Not dealing with this right now.” – Host ([38:42])
• On the Movement’s Endgame:
  “There’s no body count. Other than that cat, maybe.” – Host ([45:00])

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Notable Timestamps

• 02:16: Didulo at the height of her online following, issuing fake financial decrees/promissory notes.
• 04:09: Discussion and live reactions to Didulo’s fake “money.”
• 05:16: The Queen’s three dystopian “laws.”
• 11:27: Cult uniforms—white shirts and fake medals.
• 15:44: Case study: Extreme micromanagement and capital punishment threats.
• 24:55: Cult anthem: Rasputin on repeat and the followers’ own lyrics.
• 30:52: Death threats and shaming of expelled followers.
• 38:40-39:54: The failed citizen’s arrest of Peterborough police and Didulo’s escape.
• 40:55: The cult’s move into Richmond, community backlash, and Didulo’s 2025 arrest.
• 45:33-48:52: The “King of America,” rival internet royalty, and the satirical “Queen Charmaine.”

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Tone & Style

The episode is a mix of scathing satire, gallows humor, and genuine empathy for cult followers. The hosts maintain a playful, incredulous commentary while dissecting the surreal and pathetic realities of Didulo's delusions and manipulations. The running interior monologue is irreverent but sympathetic—especially toward those drawn in by the cult out of a need for meaning.

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Conclusion

"Behind the Bastards" exposes Romana Didulo less as a Machiavellian mastermind and more as a tragicomic figure whose con-artistry flourished amid social disaffection and online conspiracy-mongering. The saga culminates in a farcical self-implosion, with Didulo’s “royalty” ultimately usurped by rival cranks in an endless cycle of internet absurdity—providing a cautionary, strange, and darkly hilarious view of how cults can spin out in the age of social media.

Transcript

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[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Ah, welcome back to the podcast that this is part three of our episodes on Queen Romana Digilo of Canada and you know Canadians. Thank you for letting us talk about your monarch, you know, your leader that I know you all love and respect. And I hope that we're being, you know, positively deferential towards, towards your, your great ruler. You know, it's. I'm sorry, it's just so sad that Canada has to deal with having this crazy person run their country. You know, can you imagine what it would be like having like a crazy asshole in charge of your country? Just a delusion.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I don't wonder what is that like?

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Thank God it's the Canada problem. Jesus. I know. Sheesh. It's okay, guys. You'll get your shit together one of these days. Like we have in the Americas. Like us, I guess you're in the Americas too. Whatever.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

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[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

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[Robert]

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[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

So August 2021 to December 2021 were very busy times for the Queen of Canada. She hits like, you know, like her peak. At least this is when Christine Sartoshi says she hits her peak number of followers, which is like 70 something thousand on telegram. Now at this point in time, because inflation's a problem and because the economy's not doing great and because her followers haven't been paying their bills, she's focused a lot on like the fine, on providing like what look like lifelines to the finances of her people. Okay. She's Got like these grocery pages that are supposed to like help her followers like purchase groceries, find groceries that they can like afford and stuff. She's issuing like decrees eliminating taxes and credit card debt. And she's issuing like fake money. And it's unclear how this is supposed to work. It's like a promissory note that you can print out from a downloadable template with like instructions that says you can use this money wherever you are. They're payable by the Kingdom of Canada. She also describes this as working basically the same as like money at the, at like the Canadian Tire company, which like is. It's this company that like sells I think mostly used tires and they have their own like fake company currency. Right. That like you can use for stuff within. If you're paying for other products, you can like accumulate it. A lot of businesses do this and that's kind of which makes it very unclear how is this supposed to work? Who is supposed to accept this? Right. Like what is the. And that's actually never made clear to me. These, these promissory notes, I'll pull one up, I'll do a screen share so you can, you can see what these fucking things look like.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Real groceries with made up money.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah, I think that's the idea is like they're supposed to find.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

It looks like a check.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah, it looks, it looks kind of like a check. It's a promissory note. You get to write your own number in. So it's a blank check for all of your, all of your followers. I don't know. It's really unclear to me how even her followers were supposed to believe this stuff worked, but obviously it doesn't.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Of course not.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

But you do have people printing these out. And she issues them as they're driving around, they're stopping in towns and they're meeting up with whatever followers they have in these individual towns and she's handing these out to people. So I think some of them just believe eventually when this is valued, I'll finally be rich. That's part of the whole big idea that there's a chance change coming and it's going to completely alter my financial situation and that that makes you kind of want to have to believe her. Yeah, yeah. She continues making decrees. This is like the primary way that she interacts with her followers. And as sartechi writes, the Kingdom of Canada was guided by three basic laws. Quote number one, if you kill, you will be killed. Number two, if you kill en masse, commit genocide, crimes against humanity, we will take out your Family and your DNA strain.

[Robert]

What?

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

We'll go back to that in a second. 3. War and Division are unlawful. So if you commit crimes, we're going to kill your family and your DNA strain. War and division are unlawful. What?

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I thought you was telling us to kill the doctors.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yes. Yeah, you got to kill the doctors. But you can't divide people. Prop. That's not.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

You can't divide. That's old school.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

That's unlawful. No dividing people. Kill all the doctors and the nurses and the school teachers and the business, but don't divide people.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

You know, we're gonna cut off your DNA strand again. I feel like that's gotta be a translation issue. Cause I'm like, I don't think. Do you. You might actually mean that because you're an alien.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yep. She does describe her office, the Royal office of Queen Romana, to be the highest court in the land. Thus, all Canadian lawyers are now defunct because they have. They're members of the British accreditation registry, as opposed to, you know, the real judicial system that she, I guess, hasn't gotten around to building yet.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

You know, commit to the bit, homie.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah. So In January of 2022, Romana's, like, tour of Canada really takes off in a big way. She's got about a dozen followers. She's got a group of RVs, and they start traveling, you know, initially into, like, downtown Ottawa. Um, but after that point, they just kind of continue going. Right? Like, she's meeting people at various small towns. She's expanding her conception of, like, what's, you know, my powers are. She's making declarations as to martial law, and they're just kind of, like, driving constantly. She's taking it. She's taken in six figures at this point. Well over $140,000 in donations. It's unclear exactly how many, but that's what's gotta pay for everything. Cause RVs are not cheap to drive, Right? And she's got to continue, like, paying that. She's got to pay for uniforms for her people, as we'll talk about. Like, there's a lot of. There's a lot of expenses due to this. So who's. Who.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Who's donating who?

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

She's got, like, 70,000 people on Telegram. So some folks, some of them are money, you know, and it only takes a few. And she's also got a couple of her followers that are in person followers. She's completely soaking. Like, they're signing over everything to her. Right. Like, she's doing that thing to too now, as 2022 goes along. She's the road trip queen of Canada. She's issuing these declarations, but she starts to expand what she's offering her followers because, you know, grocery lists and fake money only go so far. What people really want is magical powers. And In August of 2022, she announces that she has started teaching her followers her powers. To her followers, she gets on. Basically, she makes a video saying that, like, I've started teaching people, you know, given an intensive class and how people can think like me and act like commander in Chief. So I'm teaching them all how to run a country, if that's ever necessary. I'm teaching them how to like, take hostages and negotiate, which is not a great sign for your cult, per Christine Starteshi. Did you Low also said she's teaching her core followers how to cloak and uncloak themselves and how to use high level technologies, including 5G that Digilo claims will allow her trainees to see through the walls of buildings and homes. She contends that all science fiction movies and television series are disclosures, documentaries, and diaries. Both the television series Star Trek and the movie the Tomorrow War seem to have had an unusually strong influence on digillo. The Tomorrow War is her life storyline. Prap. Have you ever seen the Tomorrow War? No. No one did. I have not. I'm sure someone in the audience watched the fucking Tomorrow War, but statistically you didn't.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I did have no idea what you're talking about.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

No idea. Great. Great. It's a 2021 sci fi movie starring Chris Pratt in which soldiers from the future come back to the present day to warn humanity that in the future we're losing a war against alien invaders. And so they need to draft the whole present day military to go back to the future and fight them. And then when we run out of present day military, they just start drafting regular people to go to the future.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I think I purposefully said, ain't no way in the world I'm gonna watch this.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Nah, that doesn't sound good.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I was like, I ain't finna watch this. I know I'm bored, but I ain't finna watch this.

[Robert]

You lost me at Chris Pratt.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Not that bored. Chris Pratt.

[Robert]

Yeah, you lost me at Chris Pratt.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

So it grossed about $20 million in theaters from a budget of 200 million or so. So it does not do well.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

People are the only one analysis people.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Are like the writer and director of this movie are dragged out into the street and shot in downtown Hollywood. It is such a failure. But Queen Romana loves this movie because she idolizes the queen Alien. Like the bad guy of the movie, I think. I haven't seen this fucking movie. But the aliens are called the White Spikes. And the queen of the White Spikes is stronger than all of the males of her species. And Ramana seems to really, really vibe with this.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

He latched on to that.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Okay. Sarteshi ties this movie to Ramana's belief in something called DNA X, which she describes as God's tool that she plans to release to every living. All caps. I am in the world to go back to that weird little cult that we started this with. Dang.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

There it is.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

I don't know what this means, as best as I can tell. I think because the original I Am movement was based on this guy, this fucking dude hundreds of years ago who'd claimed to be immortal and all knowing because of magic. And. And the IM movement was like, no, there's all these. It's actually like this divine. There's this set of tactics that you can find. It is still quasi occult. And she's taking basically those claims and saying, no, no, it's not the occult. You can have all of these powers by alien DNA technology that will make you live long and be all knowing. Right. I think that's the gist of it. It's a little unclear to me exactly what she believes. Cause it's silly. Yeah, but that's because.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

What the hell?

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah, right. Because what the hell? 2022 is spent large in a caravan of RVs, one of which was gifted to her and several of which were rented. The exact makeup of her cult shifts rapidly at this point. For one thing, formerly loyal members don't last forever. Right. Like, people find this and think that it's a good idea, and then she starts to be a crazy asshole to them. And eventually they have enough and they're like, this isn't fun anymore. And they bash right other people. What?

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I need the water turned on. Okay.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Right.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I'm good.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

I'm tired of not having water.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Tired of not having heating.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah. So people will leave, but other people will come in. So there's kind of. And it's never large. The in person following is never bigger than like, much bigger than like a dozen people. But there is some, like, people will leave, people will come in. That sort of happening. Right. She's also purging people for making mistakes periodically, which keeps the numbers down. She has, at this point, by the time 2022 rolls around, her followers have unif. These are generally white Button up shirts with the Queen Romana logo emblazoned on them, often adorned with official medals that she awarded in her capacity as Canadian Commander in Chief. Right. Like, and these are. Cause, like, the question whenever you've got one of these people handing out medals is like, okay, what kind of medals are these? Are you like, what are these fake military medals? Are these, like, bottle caps? Like, what are we looking at here? And as best as I can tell, I think that these are, at least from what I have read, and I think this is Mac Lamoreaux who made this claim, and I'm sure he's right. These are, like, mostly Boy Scout medals. Like, these are, like Boy Scout awards.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Love it, love it. Change nothing.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

It's good stuff. Yeah.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Dude, how come nobody in this whole situation was like, can I meet a prince? Or. You ain't got no accountant. This whole king. I ain't never met nobody else in this kingdom.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Like, does anybody work for you?

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

You're the only one who believes you're the Queen. And I guess the people who live in this RV and the handful of folks that we meet traveling, you know.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Yeah. But none of them are a part of your court.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Like, who.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Yeah, where's the rest of your administration?

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Right? Yeah. Where's the rest of this? Doesn't feel like a government again, that gets down to the whole. I think there's a lot of, like, play acting. You know, it takes two to tango with something like this. I do want to show you guys these uniforms because they're not as elaborate as they might sound from what I. It's mostly she's just got people wearing, like, white shirts with fucking metals and stuff on them. But, yeah, like, those. And those are. As soon as I saw the pictures, like, yeah, those do look like Boy Scout medals. That's gonna look like Boy Scout medals.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Yeah. It's not a uniform. And those are Boy Scout medals.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah, they're just all dressed in white. They look a little sealed.

[Robert]

They look like golf caddies.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

He's got his all Access pass on. Like.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

And you can see behind him. Behind him is an RV that has, like, meet and greet, her Maj Queen Romana. Yada, yada, yada. Like, this is how they drive around. Their RVs are also billboards. He's got his finger pointed up at the sky, which is a thing that all of her followers do. I think they took this from. This is a thing in, like, the Muslim world. Like, you'll see, like. And it basically means that, like, you know, God's in Charge, right?

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Yeah, totally.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Right? Like that's the idea. Point at him. I don't know if that's what it means to her for her followers to do that, but they are. That is the gesture they're doing. And I'm sure that's where it came from. You must have just seen it on TV or something and liked it.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Dang. Imagine being that guy and then now you're like, that's on the Internet forever.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

That's on the Internet forever. You in this uniform with like whatever fucking ID she made for you hanging around your neck. And your Boy Scout awards for being the best special boy in the cult.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Whatever stage pass you have on, like.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

One day, that's a he's. Because the guy in this is pretty young. He looks like he's in his 20s, maybe 30. Like, if he doesn't have kids, he very well might one day. And someday they're gonna find out. Hey, dad, what is this? Are you in a uniform? What are these awards that say the Queen of Canada's arfy?

[Robert]

My goodness.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Let me tell you a story about the time dad made a mistake. Queen Didulo was incredibly is incredibly serious about her schedule. And one of the worst things you can do if you really want to get kicked out of this cult, the easiest way to do it is to cost her time, because that is a capital offense. Corey, One of her former inner circle members lost his position after a series of minor errors, including booking an RV to be picked up at 5pm instead of 4pm The Queen called this treason and threatened to have him executed. She'd done this numerous times before, and Matt Lamro notes that the methods varied from, quote, being shot in the head or thrown from a helicopter. So she's saying, like, I'm gonna have my men shoot you in the head. I'm gonna throw you out of a helicopter. Cuz you made me wait an hour to get in my new RV that you rented for me.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Ridiculous. I am royalty. Yeah, I need to borrow this rv, right?

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

She justifies these punishments to the rest of her followers by saying, nobody controls my timeline. Anybody that screws up my timeline is going to be tried for treason and shot in the head.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Except for the people that own the rv, right?

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

People that own the rv, they control your time. They might have more control over your timeline here, but you know who won't have you tried for treason and shot in the head? Prop.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Hey, better not.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

But they better not sponsor this podcast. Very rarely have people shot in the head. You know, I'm not gonna say Never. I'm not gonna say never. Might be doing an ad. They've definitely had some people shot in the head, you know.

[Robert]

Yeah, but can you stop naming brands, please?

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Sophie knows they've had some people shot in the head. It's fine. We don't. We all keep drinking the soda. It's okay.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

The soda can literally clean your car battery and we still drink it.

[Robert]

Royal, please bleep the name of the brand.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

No, they'll know what it is. When Prof. Said it eats car batteries.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

They'Ll know what we're talking about. Now you have to keep the bit.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

But still bleep it anyway. Here's ads. Foreign.

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[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

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[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

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[Robert]

You're killing me.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah, baby, we're killing everybody.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Just like, I mean, you doing numbers. We might. We might want that. That sponsor money. Though they did invent the visual description of.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

So, as I noted earlier, Corey and Daisy were foundational cult members. Romana wouldn't have gotten this crazy train off the ground without them, and this did not stop her from abusing them relentlessly. The people you are most reliant on are the people you're going to be most shitty on if you're this kind of cult leader. Yeah, totally. And in fact, the fact that they were so useful and key may have encouraged her to abuse them. Maybe she felt kind of insecure that she needed them so much and she was really trying to, like, keep them beaten down. I don't actually know, but the two were doing a lot. They went from managing her telegram channels to becoming her bodyguard, mechanic, and secretary. Daisy was also the royal bank account, setting up fundraisers and taking donations on behalf of the Queen. Diddilo made impossible demands regularly to these people. And whenever money came up short or the built in limitations of technology thwarted her whims of the moment, she would bully Daisy, who later said the abuse was nonstop. It was never ending. No proper meals, you know, no sleep. She continued. She didn't care. She said, if you work for the queen, you work for the Queen. You volunteered to be here. Why are you complaining? And like she got a little bit of a point. She's. She's got a little bit of a point. Yeah, like why are you have to be here? You knew what you were. You should have known what you were getting into with this, this dumb bullshit. Like come on now. Like you know what you were getting into. Yeah.

[Robert]

Do we, do we have any idea how old this married couple, Daisy and I've forgotten the name of the husband.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

I'm guessing they were mature adults, probably in middle age, maybe well past it. You know, a decent number of her. But they're not all. Some of them are pretty young. I don't actually know their like age range, but you know, they're. They're old enough to know better.

[Robert]

Yeah.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

And to rent an rv.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah, sure. So during her months with the Queen, Daisy estimates that she lost between 10 and 15 pounds. Mark Lamoreaux, who interviewed a number of former followers, describes the degree of control the Queen exercised over the day to day lives of her immediate tribe as pretty extensive. People would have to ask her for permission to even shower, which she periodically denied some individuals for days at a time.

[Robert]

Why would they like that? Why is that a thing?

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Well, that's pretty normal. Cult leaders. I know, that's what I'm saying. It's control over their bodies, over even like their ability to clean themselves. You're practicing, you know, you're in such close quarters.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Don't.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Where are you showering in the rv.

[Robert]

Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

You're in such close quarters and your.

[Robert]

Punishment is that everybody has to smell that person stink.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Well, she's not. She's. The RV where the people stay is different from the Queen's rv.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

True. Oh, I forgot she got the royal rv.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Okay. She sometimes had a separate RV just to use as a bathroom.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

This lady has figured something out.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Uh huh. Again, she is living well based on her previous life.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

She's doing really good in relation to. Yeah, but that's weird body control about smell. I feel like I would want people to smell amazing in front of me if I'm royal. If I'M royal. It's three showers a day. Y' all clean y' all booties.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

It's just about exercise and control. If you can get him to do that, you can get him to do anything, you know. True. And Romana spends most. Despite claiming that she's taking back Canada, she's the rightful ruler. All of her time is spent managing her followers. This very small number of in person, that's what she does.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Her most opponent, I came with like 20 of them.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Right, right. And that's most of her work, is keeping these people busy, you know, keeping these people too busy and too beaten down to leave or to realize that, like, they're in, like, how fucked up the situation is. Part of how she does this is she. She hands up every morning. The day starts with her gathering everyone, issuing them their tasks for the day. And we're talking a mix of stuff like we're all living in RVs, so there's waste tanks that have to be emptied. There's water tanks, they have to be refilled. There's food that has to be purchased. But there's also bullshit work, like we need new signs for the vehicles. I need someone to print out a bunch of these fake money things to hand out at the next stop. Right. And she's. The point of this is there's some stuff that has to get done. There's a lot of busy work. What's most important, though, is that she's keeping everyone busy all day. People would regularly work 16 hours at a time, but she's keeping them busy doing mostly bullshit tasks or like petty work tasks that they don't get anything done. They're not. They came here to be part of this crusade to fix Canada. And all they're doing is like maintaining the caravan and handling bullshit work for her, printing stuff out or making new signs or whatever. And so, and this is something former members will say is like, I felt like I worked all the time and nothing ever got done. Right.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Yeah, you're just running a.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

How cold, Steve?

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Running a Kinko's just basically.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

And you think about it, this isn't so unique to her. It's shabbier and sadder because this is just like 10 people or 12 people living in a series of RVs. But that's what Scientology is, right? That's the whole point. You have the Sea Org and you have all these people, these auditors doing. You have petty work and tasks to keep the people who are full time members of the cult constantly working. Right. That's true. You Want them always using up their energy. Otherwise they're gonna put that energy towards maybe realizing that they're in a fucking cult, you know? And Didulo's goal was to make sure everyone's exhausted and working all the time so they don't have time to plot against her. One good example of this would be the account of a cult member who claims Romana made her wake up at 4am to turn on her hotel coffee maker. She would do stuff like this, demand people do very basic tasks for her that shouldn't even be necessary just because it's an exertion. It's her use, like exercising control. Right? Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

That's some bully gang stuff right there.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah. Life inside the cult on the road. Sounds like living hell to me. Here's one description of how Romana like to start off their days. Per an article in Vice quote, every morning at 6 or 7am The Queen would play her favorite song, Disco supergroup Boney M smash hit Rasputin, about the well endowed Russian mystic of the same name. Often the funky vibes would last an hour. Once Dejullo played Rasputin for the entire duration of a 10 hour drive while her staff just sat and listened. Her followers even recorded their own version of the song with lyrics about her.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

And it's the worst auntie ever.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Like, yeah.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Oh man, it's all.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

It's like 10 hours of fucking Rasputin. And I love that song. It's a great. It's a great. It's a banger of a hit, don't get me wrong. 10 albums, but 10 hours of that and her obsession with it is so weird. Like there's a. I'll pull up. There's a. Like you should actually hear her followers version of Rasputin.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I need to. That was gonna be my next request.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

So if you listen in, check into the QAnon Anonymous episodes. I think it's the second one about Romana that has with Mac Lamro that has the actual audio of the song. I don't want us to get copyright struck and I'm kind of worried that we might, especially what with the Netflix thing going on. So I'm just gonna actually sing you the lyrics. So you're gonna get to listen to me sing. Yes. As best as I can recall in tune to the original song Rasputin by Boney M. Okay, Are we ready?

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Yes.

[Robert]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

There lives a fearless queen Romana Didulo. She may seem quite small but she's oh so powerful when communists amass to subjugate her peeps she summoned allied forces to obliterate Queen Romana lives for we the people Strong, benevolent and just. She's discreetly waking sleeping People daily building trust. Rah rah Romana Precious Queen of Canada she's taken names and she's kicking ass. Rah rah Romana Precious Queen of Canada Please hop on board or get off the bus. And there's a lot more to it. There's a fun line. She's liberating Earth with wisdom and with grace. But if her RV's rocking, she is dancing late. That's weird. That's a weird line to kind of makes me wonder if there's some weird sex stuff going on. I don't know. But, yeah, love it. It's great. Yeah. All of it.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Again. Don't change it.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah. Beautiful stuff. Beautiful stuff. We all love to see people repurposing Bonium's work for the good of the world.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

So, as you might expect, hearing hours and hours of the song Rasputin played over and over again, even though that song's kind of a banger, might lead some people in the cult to wonder, like. Well, as Corey put it, oh, my fucking Lord, what are we doing? What the hell? Yes. She's yelling, we got a war, people. Time to get up. And dancing around like a lunatic. So this start does start to wear short on some people. The ridiculousness is kind of hard to continue to stretch your sense of disbelief towards. One former member of the group told Vyse that one day he took one of their RVs out to do errands. Like, there were parts that they needed to pick up, I think for, like, their streaming rig. They needed to get food for dinner. So this was stuff he needed to do. But he didn't get Queen Romana's permission beforehand. Like, he didn't double check with her. I can take the RV out. I have to go on an errand. And she exploded at him, relieving him of duty alongside the members who had left in the RV with him. Just firing a bunch of her cult members and saying, you can't split up the convoy, otherwise our military is going to shoot you. Okay, where. Where's the military that's gonna shoot you? What military? Yeah, right. Yeah. What military? And the former member who gets kicked out is that guy named Cowan, who was. He was disturbed at how distraught one of the cult members was that she fires that. He's kind of, I think, done with it at this point. When she fires him, he's like, good, I'm out of here. But this lady's like losing her mind, weeping and stuff. Quote, she really thought it was her destiny to be there. And I think that that gets, that really gets to something important. I've tried to emphasize a few times, some people are begging to be in a cult, right? They are desperate for any kind of meaning, right? Yeah, even this, even something that it's something, it's more meaningful.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Belonging.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Go to work and pay your bills. Right? Yeah, Anything.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Yes. Something important. Nah, that's. Now we're getting at something because to weep about this rather than being like, yeah, this game is trash.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

This is, this was fucked up from the beginning. And again, it just, it's. There's something like almost physically painful to some people at being cut off from this. When you finally found it, when you finally found the thing that gives you a sense of belonging and you get kicked out of it, like, that's like losing a limb. Cohen, though, is, you know, he's fed up by the time he gets fired and so he takes his personal video and recording equipment with him. He's one of the guys who knew how to do things, who joined the cult. And the queen is not happy about this. She gets on telegram, she declares him a thief. She claims he's kidnapped other staff who left with him. She posts videos of, of Cohen along with his picture and links to his social media. She calls him a devil worshiper and she sentences him to death. And her followers, you know, attack him with as much zealousness as they'd attacked all of the other enemies of the group. Yeah. One follower posted, he will not survive what is coming. Another added that Cohen was, quote, a fan of Satan and a traitor. And another wrote, maybe he should be the first to hang publicly for all the other traitors to see what to expect. So that's kind of a blister of at least things that are adjacent to death threats. And all Cohen could do was sort of hunker down to avoid the storm. I didn't answer a single phone call, but my phone was constantly blowing up with telegram messages and text messages. Then a few people found my personal Facebook page and commented randomly on some posts. One of them, like a six year old woman who looks really nice. And she was like, you will burn.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

What?

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Well, it's just the amount of rage when you tell people like, this, your bullshit game that has become the entire core of your life. This is the only thing that excites you. This is like, this is your friend group. This is, you're addicted to this. And this guy doesn't believe it. He left even though he actually just got fired. Yeah. You get enraged, and in part, you're kind of taking out your anger at the rest of the world on this person, because at some level, they all know this isn't real. Right. And that makes them pissed. So as you might get from some of this, Ramona's not wildly loyal to her cult members. And in fact, she is so unsatisfied with the quality of her first band of cult members that she fires them all. This is one of my favorite things about her story. It also kind of hints at the weird resilience of her grift. From what I can tell, it sounds like the breakdown started because she was planning to extend her road trip into the United States in a desperate attempt to avoid going back to her normal life and to try to get some of that American money. Right?

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

But some of her followers, including Cory and Daisy, had children and were like, well, we were just going to Ottawa, and then you wanted to drive around for a few months, and we were down with that, but we can't do this forever. And so Roman is like, well, if you have kids, simply move them in with your family and then abandon them for the cause. And a few of her followers have kids, and they're like, what? Okay, I didn't think that's what we were doing, guys.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Abandoned ship, man.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yep, Yep. So this is all coming to a head as the caravan makes its way into Newfoundland, which is not a heavily populated part of Canada, and they're kind of in the middle of nowhere of Newfoundland, which is itself kind of the middle of nowhere. And the day after, she makes everyone listen to Rasputin for 10 hours while driving through the middle of nowhere Canada. Right. They're stopped. They're all tired. She probably keeps them up late. And then she wakes everyone up early, playing her fucking Rasputin song and yelling about how there's a war on, and says, everyone skip breakfast. We gotta start driving right now. And Cory and Daisy have finally had enough, and they close the door in her face, and they're like, no, we're gonna sleep. We're not getting up yet, and we're gonna eat. And Queen Didulo just leaves them. She abandons almost, it sounds like pretty much all of her staff 2,000 miles away from her homes. Takes the RVs. They have to, like, rent cars to get home. Okay. And declares them traitors and warns them to watch your backs. Right. Just leaves him in Newfoundland.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Traitors. All right. Yeah, yeah. She's smelling her Own stuff. Way too much, man.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah. So, you know, not long after that, In August of 2022, Queen Dejihlo carries out her next major real world endeavor. This is in a town called Peterborough, where she has gotten. Been convinced for a while and been ranting for a while about, like, the police in Peterborough and how they're enforcing Covid mandates and whatn. They're corrupt, we're gonna do a citizen's arrest. All that good stuff, right? Like, that's. This is all kind of like. And it's a little hard for me to tell, like, why she focuses specifically on this small town. I think maybe some of it is just that, like, well, this was like a small enough town that maybe she thought it would work. Some of it is that one of her followers, this guy Frank Curtin, lives in the town and he starts, like, he organizes, like, a mass event to do a citizen arrest of all these police. So I think it may have just been that, like, she had a follower who was like, no, it'll work if we do it here. You know, they have. There's this. They've got this meme going on that's like they're calling the police chief, the retire borough police chief because they're trying to get him to retire and threatening to arrest him if he doesn't. To quote from sartechi's piece about Frank Curtin, Curtin is one of digilo's most ardent supporters and provides a useful example of an active agent. Curtin came to believe in Didulo's idea after parting ways with his employer approximately one year before the Peterborough event. Problems began between Curtin and his employer when his employer received funds from the government to boost the manufacturing of hand sanitizer as part of the fight against COVID 19. Curtin considered this government funding suspicious. He believes that COVID 19 is fake and that his employer had collected that money illegally. These conspiratorial beliefs then allegedly led to Curtin's departure from the company. After leaving the company, Curtin began regularly serving Didulo's ceased and desist orders to public officials. He then specifically targeted Police Chief Scott Gilbert of the Peterborough Police Department. Curtin was upset about not receiving from the Police Chief Gilbert what Gilbert deemed to be an appropriate response to his complaint about his employer's supposed illegal activities. Curtin recorded himself serving a cease and desist order upon Chief Gilbert and posted the video on his YouTube channel. Right. So, yeah, this is a really good example of how these kind of things snowball, right? This is not a guy who's living with the caravan. He starts just. Just serving her cease and desists. But she's following him. He's posting as he's in the telegram. She's putting these up. He's talking about how corrupt the police are. Romana's like, oh, this might be useful. So she starts some memes about retire, you know, the police chief, and we're gonna arrest all of them. And it just becomes an increasing thing to her followers. And this kind of makes it inevitable that there's going to be a showdown in Peterborough. Right. Like, they're gonna have to do something there.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Yeah, yeah. This goes from funny to annoying to like, okay, you have to stop.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah, Right, right.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

And we're going to talk about what happened next. But first, ads. We're back. So this guy, Frank Curtin has becoming gotten, you know, as a result of getting fired and losing his mind over, like, Covid stuff, both lost his job and is increasingly becoming unhinged. He's fallen into this rabbit hole of Didulo stuff and he's gotten obsessed with Chief Gilbert, his town's police chief. He's posting videos about how, like, there's this plane that he'll see flying every now and then that he believes the police chief is flying above his house to, like, fuck with him specifically. So this is not a well man, right? This is really not a well man. And he's incredibly angry about, like, the vaccines and the police are showing up at, like, Vax to protect vaccine sites because of crazy people like Frank Curtin. Right. And so this all comes to a head in August of 2022, which is when Queen Didulo's caravan shows up in Peterborough for her next major real world endeavor. She's gathered around 40 of her followers and she's told them these officers and their chief are all complicit in Covid crimes and we're going to arrest them. And so they show up in this town and she attempts to arrest the entire police department. Frank Curtin starts by announcing, today we are going to turn the members of the Peterborough police station over to the US Special Forces military, the Canadian military, and the Global Military Alliance WHO will pick them up once we detain them. The who? Well, it makes a lot of sense, prop. It's the U.S. special Forces military, not the regular military. They're not involved. But the regular Canadian military is involved. And of course, the Global Military alliance, they're all gonna show up after we arrest them. They can't arrest the cops themselves. All the militaries in the World, they don't have the power we the people have to do that. But then they'll detain them once we the people have detained them. In response, the police use one of the most dastardly tricks, right? These people show up outside of the police station. They say they're gonna arrest them, and the cops lock the door. Just like, eh. Not dealing with this right now. Let's see if they go away.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

I'm almost on break, fam.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Like, man, I don't want to deal with today. So Diddulo is reduced for a while to heckling them over a bullhorn, demanding the police turn themselves in. Eventually, the police reinforcements arrive. One man tells them they're under arrest. And the cops are like, no, I mean, like, you're actually under arrest. We are the cops. We have, like, the guns and stuff. Yeah, you're just.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

We're trying to be respectful, guys.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

We're really trying to find you.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Yeah, but you're not cops.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

You are definitely not cops. Yeah. The guardian summarizes what happened next. Speaking to supporters over a megaphone, Digilo fired up the small crowd, but fled to her RV when scuffles with the police began and some of her disciples were arrested. She was somebody who was boosting this effort and was very much in favor of it until it went south, in which case she threw all of her followers under the bus us. She's very big on self preservation. Clearly a quote from one of the observers. Yeah. Six people were arrested, two with assaulting a police officer, but there were no charges for the queen. And so her merry road trip continued. She gathered another gaggle of a dozen or so followers together. She bought a $62,000 RV with some of the donated money and had another RV donated to the cause.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Wow.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

And she attempted. At this point, I do think, though, she's starting to see it's expensive to drive around all the time. I want to settle somewhere, but I can't get. I still am not willing to go back to my normal life. Which is when she finds a small town called Richmond in 2023. And she finds this because one of the guys who lives in the town has bought Richmond, had a school. But it's a very small town, right? And it's one of those things. The school becomes defunct, you know, Okay. I think because there just aren't enough people to keep it going. And there's this local guy who's become a follower of her cult, or at least a partial follower of her cult who buys. Who's, like, purchased the school and the land that it's on. And he invites them to come over and move in. Basically like, hey, you can live in this old school that I technically own and live in Richmond, this tiny ass little small town in Canada. That sounds like a good life.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

This don't sound royal, fam.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah, so there's a mix of problems. For one thing, there's a couple of people in town who believe her. So at least one Richmond resident told W5 News that her father stopped paying his bills because DiGilo said so. But a lot of people are just unhappy about it. For one thing, they've been kicked out of at least one town prior to this where they showed up and were trying to set up shop there. And the mayor and a bunch of the local residents had it out for them and like, ran them out of town by banking it a really uncomfortable place for them to live.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

And they try to do that in Richmond. A lot of people do. There's a lot of complaints. There's local government meetings about it, but they're not quite able to kick them out of Richmond with the speed that they want to because in part they have a really good thing going. They have this whole school that they can live in that they're turning into like their government headquarters. So they don't. They don't want to go. Right.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Yeah. We finally got some progress.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah. Right. I think there's also. She's starting to lose followers by this point. She's not at her height. So I think there's this understanding that like, well, I may be near the end of this grift in the beginning, and I want to settle down somewhere where, like, we've got a stable place to live and whatnot. Like, maybe that's the. And mans, who's. The guy who's bought the property is also just kind of somebody who's. He's like a right wing crank who hates the COVID 19 vaccine. And so some of this is just. I think he hates everyone around him totally to piss them off. This is a huge issue in Richmond for a while. Right. There's protests. Some people do go a little bit overboard in being paranoid about the cult too. But I understand, basically they don't want these people fucking up their little town. Right. Yeah. It's weird. And she starts making claims and the cult does that. Like, well, there's a lot of us. If we all become residents, you know, we can vote in local elections and shift the elections. Doing what that cult in Antelope, Oregon did. That wild, wild country. They're talking about it, right? So this also really pisses off people. Like, I don't want my tiny town to be taken over by these weird assholes. Right? Yeah, it just sounds like. Yeah, kind of shitty. So this goes on for, I think, like a year and change. And it only really hit. There's like kind of an inflection point that came recently where a bunch of them got arrested very recently. Like, this is finally. Yeah, yeah, fucking finally. Right? In September, like the fall of 2025, she gets arrested. And it's kind of some bullshit. She doesn't get arrested for any of the actual, like, really fucked up shit that she does.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

She gets arrested.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah, right. Like, she gets arrested. It's not even that. It's just like they. They don't arrest her for the actual bad stuff. They arrest her for, like, intimidating four people, including a police officer. And like, basically for intimidating people in town as opposed to being weak. The time she tried to get people killed or tried to have all those police arrested or got people to stop paying their bills, it's like kind of like witness intimidation almost.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Yeah, he just arrested you for being weird.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

They arrested her for being weird. And she's, you know, she livestreams the arrest. There's this satisfying moment where the officers are like, leave the phone. You're under her arrest. Part of what prompted the RCMP to raid in the first place was that there were pictures of guns from inside the property, but they turned out to be replica handguns. I don't know how far this case is going to go. There's a good chance she gets fucked over just because she is representing herself, which is a bad decision. So she might stuff herself over here. But the charges aren't super crazy, right? Like, she's not getting charged with most of the actual bad cult leader stuff. Maybe she'll successfully fundraise off of this. We don't really know where things are gonna go from here. Right.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

But there's no body count.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

No, there's not a body count. Other than that cat, maybe.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Other than the cat.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

It's a pretty tame story, right? It's just. I thought it was fun. I thought we'd all have some fun.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Great, man.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Just. It's good stuff. It's like, yeah, like, you don't make fun of, like, people who fall into cults because, like you said, you know, glass houses and stones and all that, you know? And then on the other hand, it's like, bro, you stopped paying your utilities. And that wasn't. I feel like I can make fun of you for that.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah. Now, there is a nice little postscript to this cold. Cause we don't know what's gonna happen with Ramona. But I do wanna talk for just a second about the King of America, David Carlson.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Okay, yes, please.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Because he did crop up a year or two ago, and people started talking to him. And at first he was very positive towards Ramona, and then he kind of soured on her and he started making it clear, like, oh, I didn't say she was the queen. I said she was, like, in the running to be the queen. Like, she might be. Right.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

That's not what I said.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

The two of them have had a break, right? And there's a. I want to read. I'm just gonna read the start of this. This Vice article about him because it has a really funny opening. Wearing a Florida Gators T shirt, an Arizona man in his mid-40s attempts to convince the hundreds of thousands of conspiracy theorists watching his laptop livestream that he's the real leader of the United States. King David Carlson explains that he still has a few million people to take out before he's finally done with his plan installing qanon kings and queens around the world.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Around the world.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

He's great. He claims they've replaced Joe Biden was taken out on election day. We've replaced sheriffs and other leaders, you know, and he's been appointing a lot of kings. He's appointed a king to the kingdom of Britain, which I think already has a king. The king to the kingdom of Sweden, which I think already has a king. There's a king of New Zealand, which I don't think had a king.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

He was Maori.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

There's a. There's a minister of North Carolina. There's a Queen Helen Edwards of the kingdom of Australia, and then there's Her Excellency Karen, Minister of New Jersey, obviously.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Oh, these guys are. They're so wonderful, man.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

They're great. This is fun.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

They're great, dude.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

My favorite is that since Queen Romana has fallen out of the king's favor, she's no longer the Queen of Canada. But he has appointed a new queen of Canada, a Quebec woman who was a follower of Queen Romana and wrote a fan poem about her, but has now been appointed the real queen of Canada. And so I guess took the throne in a coup of some sort.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

This is great.

[Robert]

Wild time.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

And there's a great. I'm gonna show you. The last thing I'll show you is I wanna show you the royal seal of. I think who we can all agree is a better pick for Queen of Canada, Queen Charmaine. And I just. I just love this. I love this.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Please show me Queen Charmaine.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Queen Charmaine of Canada. First of her name. It's like a pink logo with a very airbrushed face of a blonde woman.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Oh, my Lord.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Queen Charmaine written in Tyler's and tiaras. Yeah. Natural law, zero politics, royal decrees, benevolent monarchy.

[Robert]

It's like if Mar a Lago face in Toddlers and Tiaras.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

This is.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

This is.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

She does have some Marlon face going.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

On on Instagram who shouldn't be on Instagram keeping all them filters on her face. Yup, yup.

[Robert]

Wow.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Queen Charmaine.

[Robert]

Thanks for sharing, Robert.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Well, I know for. For my part, I now have. Am declaring my allegiance to Queen Charmaine. You know, I will take your allegiance. Yeah, let's do it. All right. Queen Charmaine it is. Everyone. All right.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

As long as. As long as I could shower.

[Robert]

Listen.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Sure. Listen. She looks like she showers.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

She showers a lot.

[Robert]

All I gotta say is listen to hood politics with.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

Please listen to politics with prop. With some more of this foolishness.

[Robert]

Oh, my gosh.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

My lord. Thank you. Thank you for this. I. I needed this. I really.

[Robert]

This is refreshing. Thank you, Robert.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

All right, everybody.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

This could have been a reverse. I ain't gonna hold you, like, just.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

For the rest of it, you know.

[Robert]

Go to hell. I love you. Is that what you said, Robert?

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

Yeah, I say that sometimes.

[Robert]

That's nice.

[Co-host or guest commentator]

All right, bye.

[Robert]

Behind the Bastards is a production of Cool Zone Media. For more from Coolzone Media, visit our website, coolzonemedia.com or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Full video episodes of behind the Basterds are now streaming on Netflix, dropping every Tuesday and Thursday. Hit Remind me on Netflix so you don't miss an episode. For clips in our older episode catalog, continue to subscribe to our YouTube channel, YouTube.com behindthebastards. We love about 40% of you. Statistically speaking.

[Host (possibly Robert or main narrator)]

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[Robert]

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