Podcast Summary

Believer’s Voice of Victory Audio Podcast

Episode: "Consider Jesus, Your Everlasting Covenant"
Date: September 23, 2025
Host: Kenneth Copeland Ministries (Kenneth Copeland & Greg Stephens)

Overview

This episode centers on the enduring power and significance of the everlasting covenant established through Jesus Christ. Kenneth Copeland and Greg Stephens discuss biblical covenants, the meaning of Jesus’ sacrifice, the role of faith in the Christian walk, America’s covenantal foundations, and the parallel between Old Testament types and the fulfillment in Christ. The importance of considering Jesus—especially during contradiction and adversity—is emphasized throughout as they encourage listeners to live fully aware and empowered by their covenant with God.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Covenant and Its Contradictions

• Outline of the Five Steps:
  • As for me (personal responsibility in covenant)
  • Considering not the natural (only the covenant)
  • Considering Jesus, the Blood of the Everlasting Covenant
  • Jesus as High Priest of the New Covenant
  • The unchanging nature of Jesus (Hebrews: Same yesterday, today, and forever)
• Living by Faith, Not Sight:
  • “I move by what I feel...I don’t live by what I see. Because my God has made a way for me.” (Kenneth Copeland & Greg Stephens, 00:02–00:09)
• Connection to Abraham:
  • Abraham did not consider his own body, but only God’s promise (00:07–01:30)
  • Christians are to act on God’s word immediately, as Abraham did.

2. Jesus’ Sacrifice and the Blood Covenant

• Jesus’ Ascension & Blood on the Mercy Seat:
  • After resurrection, Jesus had to present His blood on the heavenly mercy seat—fulfilling the Old Testament type of the ark (02:52–03:18)
  • Moses saw the heavenly originals and created earthly representations in the tabernacle.
• Necessity of Human Blood:
  • The problem of Adam’s fall could not be solved “on the spot,” since the Word had not become flesh (03:53)
• All Covenants Pointed to Jesus:
  • The Old Testament sacrificial system moved humanity toward the promise of the Seed (Jesus) (04:20)

3. The Role of Love & the Law of Faith

• God is Love:
  • “God is love. It didn’t say he is power, but he is love.” (Greg Stephens, 06:30)
  • God’s desire to restore mankind led to the plan of salvation, which cost innocence (animal sacrifices) temporarily until Jesus came (06:30–07:13)
• Man’s Dominion:
  • “No, we were given dominion.” (Kenneth Copeland, 07:37) – reminding listeners that authority on earth is given to humankind.

4. America and National Covenant

• Covenantal Foundation of the United States:
  • Story of George Washington’s inauguration as a covenant dedication to God (07:41–11:09)
  • Washington’s act: Placing his hand on Genesis while taking oath, vowing to honor the covenant with God, and praying in St. Paul’s Chapel, New York.
  • The Liberty Bell inscription tied to Leviticus: "Liberty throughout the land"
• A National Contradiction:
  • There is a contradiction in the country’s covenantal foundation and its current state, which isn’t about politics: "It’s the love of money." (Greg Stephens & Kenneth Copeland, 11:33–11:38)

5. Abraham, Isaac, and Immediate Obedience

• Parallels to Jesus:
  • Abraham’s readiness to sacrifice Isaac; Isaac’s participation ("He was in agreement...he’s a grown man,” 14:09–14:13)
  • Abraham’s faith expected resurrection (Hebrews 11:17), just as the resurrection is key to Christian faith (14:26)
  • The ram in the thicket as a symbol of Christ—the substitute sacrifice (15:35)
• Immediate Obedience:
  • Abraham’s immediate action as the model for faith; today’s believers are “circumcised of the heart,” indicating an inward spiritual change that is visible to the enemy (13:10–13:14)

6. Consider Jesus—The Cure for Weariness

• Hebrews 12: Focusing on Jesus
  • “Consider Jesus all the time.” (Kenneth Copeland, 17:11)
  • Believers are instructed to lay aside every weight and look unto Jesus, who endured contradiction and suffering (17:22)
• Jesus' Suffering:
  • "Every place he bled reversed a curse." (Kenneth Copeland, 18:17)
  • The curses of stress, the sweat of the brow (labor), and internal wounds are all addressed in Christ’s suffering.
  • “He was bruised for all the wounds that you carried inside…” (Kenneth Copeland, 18:21)

7. Jesus’ Compassion Even in Suffering

• Jesus’ Words on the Way to the Cross:
  • Even while beaten and on the way to his crucifixion, Jesus paused to comfort and teach grieving women. He predicts future suffering and references to coming judgment (22:12–23:54)
  • “Don’t cry for me. How could you help but cry for him? He wanted to put a stop to that because they were hurting and...they were hurting more than he was.” (Greg Stephens, 23:23)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “He swore by Himself, better priest and better covenant. This same Jesus...is now the same yesterday, today and forever because he is the high priest of this blood agreement.”
  Greg Stephens, 01:12

• “God is love. It didn’t say he is power, but he is love. And we find out then that love wanted mankind back so badly that he devised a plan…”
  Greg Stephens, 06:30

• “No, we were given dominion.”
  Kenneth Copeland, 07:37

• “The day that George Washington was inaugurated was the day the covenant was invoked and America belonged to God Almighty.”
  Greg Stephens, 10:09

• “We have been circumcised by the heart. We are bought with the blood. We were bought with a price...there is a contradiction to our covenant with our nation. Right now, there is a big contradiction.”
  Kenneth Copeland, 11:09

• “Immediate action was...that day. The corresponding action was immediate. And that was a painful one.”
  Kenneth Copeland & Greg Stephens, 12:57–13:04

• “Consider Jesus all the time.”
  Kenneth Copeland, 17:11

• “Every place he bled reversed a curse.”
  Kenneth Copeland, 18:17

• “But right in the middle of all of that, he stopped and said, don't cry for me... He wanted to put a stop to that because they were hurting and... they were hurting more than he was.”
  Greg Stephens, 23:23

Important Timestamps

• 00:02 – Opening Declaration of Faith & Introduction to Covenant Thinking
• 02:52 – Jesus Ascending After Resurrection; Blood on Mercy Seat
• 03:53 – Necessity of Human Blood for True Redemption
• 07:41–11:09 – George Washington and America’s National Covenant
• 12:57 – Abraham’s Immediate Obedience and Its Painful Cost
• 14:09–15:40 – Abraham and Isaac Parallel to Jesus; The Ram in the Thicket
• 17:11 – “Consider Jesus all the time” (Central exhortation)
• 18:17 – Jesus’ Blood Reverses All Curses
• 22:08–23:23 – Jesus’ Compassion on the Cross & Relevance to Today

Conclusion

This episode offers a powerful encouragement to believers to focus steadfastly on Jesus and lean fully on the everlasting covenant. The hosts use biblical history and American history to illustrate how every promise brings a contradiction, but victory comes to those who consider Jesus and act in faith—just as Abraham did. The personal and national application of covenant principles is highlighted, and listeners are reminded to be immediate in faith-filled action, to realize the curses reversed in Christ, and to keep Jesus at the center of all considerations.

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