Faith for Your Family: Instill Faith In Your Children 06/11

Summary

Faith for Your Family: Instill Faith In Your Children

Believer's Voice of Victory Audio Podcast – 06/11/2025
Hosts: Kenneth Copeland, Kelly Copeland, John Copeland

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on practical, faith-filled strategies for raising children with a strong Christian foundation. Through personal stories and scripture-based insights, Kenneth, Kelly, and John Copeland emphasize the importance of instilling faith, love, discipline, hope, and the Word of God in the next generation. The discussion also tackles misconceptions about spiritual discipline, the power of spoken words, and the enduring impact of a home saturated with faith for parents, children, and future family lines.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Power and Legacy of Faith in the Family

• Personal Testimony of Influence: The episode opens with a testimony from “Sarah,” a KCM staff member whose life trajectory was set by seeds sown through earlier broadcasts and teaching ([00:22]).
• Family Experience: Kenneth highlights that his teachings come from direct, decades-long experience:

  “All of the things that we’re saying comes from hands-on experience.” ([03:19], Kenneth Copeland)

• Faith in Everyday Life: Kelly shares a formative moment when her father’s words changed her mindset about sickness:

  “You’re not the sick. You are the healed, and the devil’s trying to take your health away from you.” ([03:54], Kenneth Copeland)
  Kelly recalls:
  “It was a core moment in my life… it exploded in me.” ([04:21], Kelly Copeland)

2. Including Children in the Journey of Faith

• Kenneth and Gloria “included [their children] in everything we did” ([04:41]). They emphasize modeling faith as a family.
• Kenneth stresses that what has worked for their family can work for anyone willing to raise children by faith, not fear.

3. Hope, Words, and the Spirit of Faith

• The panel discusses the importance of positive words:

  “Faith is the substance of things hoped for.” ([06:23], Kenneth Copeland)
  He rebukes warnings against giving “false hope,” instead advocating for raising expectations anchored in faith.

• Kelly explains “rhema” moments, when a word of faith comes alive for someone:

  “…that was rhema. When it exploded, it’s just like a bubble burst in you.” ([07:06], Kelly Copeland)

4. Parenting, Discipline, and Biblical Structure

• Kenneth relates a story of apologizing to John after speaking harshly, tying humility and correction together.

  “I got down on my knees in front of him and apologized…” ([08:23], Kenneth Copeland)

• Discussion on discipline:
  • John notes that discipline must be “done in love” and with explanation, sharing his own family experience:

    “To do it in love is the key...it is effective, done the right way.” ([10:44], John Copeland)

  • They discuss modern attitudes, raising concerns that discipline is now considered abuse, rather than a loving guidepost.
  • John emphasizes consequences:

    “There are consequences for your actions…and if you never face a consequence for your action as a child, how are you going to know it as an adult?” ([12:33], John Copeland)

5. Respect, Not Fear

• Kenneth illustrates teaching through respect rather than fear—whether dealing with cars or heights ([15:58]):

  “You taught us to respect it.” ([16:02], John Copeland)
  “Not fear it.” ([16:05], Kenneth Copeland)

• The Bible’s blueprint for parenting is highlighted, referencing God choosing Abraham for his faithfulness in teaching his house ([16:23]).

6. Scripture, Faith, and Facing Life

• Extended commentary on 2 Corinthians 5, stressing eternal perspective, assurance, and Christian confidence ([16:22] and beyond).
• Faith over fear is a key refrain:

  “Fear tolerated is faith contaminated.” ([14:18], Kenneth Copeland)

7. The Importance of Love and Encouragement

• The Copelands discuss the healing power of loving words, sharing a moment when Gloria’s affirmation stopped Kenneth’s depression:

  “Jesus finds no fault in you, and neither do I.” ([21:54], Gloria Copeland recounted by Kenneth)

• They urge listeners to replace strife with love, citing Smith Wigglesworth’s testimony ([22:40-23:10]).

8. Salvation Invitation and Ministering to Listeners

• Kenneth shifts gears to specifically address anyone battling suicidal thoughts, commanding,

  “Stop it right now, you suicide demon…Take your life, give it away…give it to Jesus.” ([24:47], Kenneth Copeland)

• Leads listeners in a salvation prayer, emphasizing new birth and the infilling of the Holy Spirit ([25:42 - 26:24]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Rhema experience in faith:

  “I always picture myself right where we were standing. It was a core moment in my life when you said it and it went straight into my soul as a rhema.” (Kelly Copeland, [04:21])

• On discipline:

  “Discipline. Your children need to be disciplined. Otherwise, they’re just…they’re lost, and they need that structure.” (John Copeland, [13:31])

• Parental humility:

  “I got down on my knees in front of him and apologized...that’s not okay what I did and said.” (Kenneth Copeland, [08:27])

• Faith vs. fear:

  “Fear tolerated is faith contaminated. You don’t tolerate fear.” (Kenneth Copeland, [14:18])

• A loving correction:

  “Jesus finds no fault in you, and neither do I.” (Recounted from Gloria Copeland, [21:54])

• Encouragement for raising hope:

  “Get to jack their hope up as high as they can get it. Faith is the substance of things hoped for.” (Kenneth Copeland, [06:23])

• On faith in adversity:

  “Instead of fighting and finding fault with one another…you can change it with love and faith.” (Kenneth Copeland, [21:54])

• Salvation invitation:

  “Take your life, give it away…give it to Jesus. He’ll take it and do something with it right now.” (Kenneth Copeland, [24:47])

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Key Timestamps

• 00:02–01:50: Introductions; testimony of influence and the value of KCBC
• 03:05–04:41: Early family faith moments and the importance of formative “rhema” words
• 05:58–07:47: The prophetic power of hope-filled words; responding to “rhema” moments
• 07:47–10:44: Humility in parental correction; the Biblical model for discipline
• 10:44–13:37: Discussion of modern parenting, discipline “done in love,” and consequences
• 14:18–16:05: Teaching respect, not fear; faith vs. fear
• 16:22–21:54: 2 Corinthians 5 – eternal perspective, the confidence of faith, and loving one another
• 24:47–27:47: Salvation call and ministry to those in crisis

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Conclusion

This episode weaves together practical advice, family stories, and scriptural teaching to create a compelling case for making faith central in parenting. The Copelands emphasize open communication, loving discipline, setting godly expectations, respecting (but not fearing) life’s challenges, and the necessity of speaking the Word over children. Their stories and transparent moments offer encouragement and actionable wisdom for parents seeking to raise faith-filled children. The episode closes with a heartfelt invitation to know Jesus personally—a testament to their belief that faith begins with the decision to receive God’s love.

Transcript

[Kenneth Copeland]

I move by what I feel. I don't live by what I see because my God has made a way for me. Hello, everybody. I'm Kenneth Copeland and this is the Believer's Voice of Victory Broadcast. This is Kelly Copeland and this is John Copeland. Now let us know if the Victory Broadcast has encouraged you to believe God and live by faith. Share your testimony. Kcm.org story In 2019, I was a KCM partner living in Georgia. Pastor Greg Stephens was a guest on the BVOV broadcast and brother Copeland called him professor, then mentioned that he, Pastor Greg was one of the instructors at kcbc. Prior to that, I was aware of KCBC but had no desire to be a student there. But when I realized that what I was learning from Pastor Greg on the broadcast I could learn on a weekly basis as a student, it caught my attention. Two years later, I moved to Texas, attended kcbc. I've since graduated and now I'm on staff at KCM in the communications department. I'm extremely grateful the Lord used the BVOV broadcast to finally get my attention so that Kenneth Copeland Bible College could help equip me for all that God's called me to do. Thank you, Sarah. And I want to mention to the audience it is an accredited college. And so the credits will go and will be honored. And immediately we had letters from Oral Roberts University and another. Tell your students they will go ahead. Come on here. We'll take all their credit. And that's important. It's not anyway. And let's go now to the Second Corinthians, chapter five. Now, I want to say something to you that I thought of back there a moment ago. Of course, I'm not bragging on my children. I'm bragging on this book.

[Kelly Copeland]

That's right.

[Kenneth Copeland]

And I want you to notice you.

[John Copeland]

Can brag on us too if you want.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Yeah, well, I'm. Well, I am. Glory to God. It's not bragging when it's true. Kelly knew it said that. I knew where it said that. But here's the thing. January 24, 1967, this ministry began and they were there just very, very, very young. John was just a baby and Kellie was what, three? Yeah, right out we drove in there and she said, jesus lives here. Day one.

[John Copeland]

Are you talking about at Oral Roberts?

[Kenneth Copeland]

Yes. I mean, an old beat up car. We wrecked that other one. But both of them aware and they've been here all the time since. So all of the things that we're saying comes from hands on experience. Well, Kelly came home from school one day, and she said, daddy, I've had. I've just had the symptoms of the flu. That's when this phrase came out of my spirit. I didn't think it in my mind. I said, kelly, you're the healed, and the devil's trying to take your health away from you.

[Kelly Copeland]

You said, you're not the sick.

[Kenneth Copeland]

You're not the sick. You are the healed, and the devil's trying to take your health away from you. She said, all right. She went in her bedroom, and by the time we had supper that night, all the symptoms were gone.

[Kelly Copeland]

You know when you know your heart knows when you get a rhema word. And it's funny, because those words you remember later. I always picture myself right where we were standing.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Yes.

[Kelly Copeland]

It was a core moment in my life when you said it and went straight into my soul as a rhema. And it exploded in me. And I just remember going, oh, yeah. And I went to my room and I just spent some time with the Lord about that.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Gloria and I included them in everything we did. And they. They had. We had fun. They had fun. So it's very important that. I mean, right from the very beginning, we went to Oru. They went to Oru. Well, and I was just thinking back there, December this year, I'll be 89 years old, and January 24th will be the 59th year of this ministry. And they've been there the whole 59 years. That's my point. Now, I know a lot of parents don't have that in their lives, but it can be. Yes, it can. Faith. Faith. I was in a. I was in a. I don't remember where it was. It was. But it was. No, it was a partner service.

[John Copeland]

And.

[Kenneth Copeland]

I was talking about children. I said. I just started saying. I said, some of you, your children are going to call you today. Today. But that came out of my spirit, as in the prophet's ministry. And I knew it. And I don't know, someone said it. I don't remember now who. You need to be careful about saying things like that. You give people false hope. No, I give them hope. Well, you don't want to get their hopes. That's exactly what you wanted. Well, they might listen, get to jack their hope up as high as they can get it. Faith is the substance of things hoped for. That comes with. That's the people telling you, better not do that. That girl called them that day.

[Kelly Copeland]

Daddy, I heard in my spirit that when you first said it, that you said what you said about your girl's Going to call you. That went off on the inside of somebody, maybe more than one. That was rhema. When it exploded. It's just like a bubble burst in you of.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Yes.

[Kelly Copeland]

And you grabbed it even before you realized he was telling a story about something in the past. Because the word of the Lord never returns. Void. It's still. That word you spoke then is still active today.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Sure.

[John Copeland]

Absolutely.

[Kelly Copeland]

And you put it out there and somebody grabbed it. So don't let go of that. Hold that. Believe it today and you'll see it. We want to hear your testimony. Email us at that testimony email because we want to hear that it's coming.

[Kenneth Copeland]

It's very important. We were in another store. I was with John, and I kind of barked back at him. He was something. He went on and said, ah, you don't need that. I really wasn't paying attention to what he was doing, and I saw it didn't sit too well with him. I went back around there and I said, son, come here. I got down on my knees in front of him and apologized. He said, oh, daddy, that's okay. I said, no, it was not okay what I did and said, that's not okay. And so he just called me and helped me. He helped me up. Now, train up a child in the way as he gets old, he won't turn from. Says, train him, instruct him, train him. I found out later about my dad. He would wait several days before he would whip me because he didn't want torture. Well, he didn't want to do it angry. He did not want to do that angry. And it wasn't just spanking. There's a good talking went with it. And remind me of the first covenant of promise. Honor your father and your mother, which I did. And my little sore rear end. Hey, do I remember it today? Absolutely.

[John Copeland]

You know, they've gotten away in parenting today from that and even to the point of considered child abuse to spank your children. But I think it's the way in which you say it as well.

[Kelly Copeland]

It can be.

[John Copeland]

It can be. If it's done out of anger, it's done in love. And you used to tell me, this is gonna hurt me more than it hurts you. And I was like.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Let'S talk about that. Now, here was the difference between the two. John would say, all right, let's get it over with. Kelly would turn into a lawyer. Now, you don't want to do something you're going to regret. Now, come on, Daddy. Now, come on, come on, come on. Listen, let's don't do that. I'll say Kelly Dean. No, I get tickled. But you have to do it anyway. She'd plead her case every which way she could think of. But if I said it, you do it.

[John Copeland]

But it's biblical. But it's. To do it in love is the key. You know, some people do it out of anger, some people take it too far, obviously. But I'm going to say it is effective, done the right way. And my children remember Courtney. Courtney will be the first to tell you that she was older, she was maybe 16, and she got a really good whooping. And she said it was a turning point point for her, but it was a sit down, let's discuss it, and this is why we're doing it. And so nowadays you can see, I don't know, you're out in public like me. It's like, man, that kid needs a whooping. You know, there's no discipline in that child's life. But here's. It is scientific facts that children desire and want discipline. They don't know it. Right. They don't really consciously understand that people, adults also want accountability and discipline. And, you know, it's like when there's no. When there's structure, structure is good, you know, and if you just. Dad was preaching the other day and it's like a child's nature is selfish.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Yeah.

[John Copeland]

You know, they come out of, you know, they're two years old, they fight over toys. A child's nature is naturally where all of our natures are selfish. But it's not until that you have. You get Jesus in you that you become outward serving rather than inward serving. And so I don't, you know, we may get letters and all this about that, but I don't really care because for me, it's the truth. From the way I was raised, I needed, I didn't get spanked enough. You didn't know all the stuff I did right. I deserved everyone I got. Plus. But if I hadn't had the discipline, it would have not turned out. It wouldn't have turned out the way it did, you know, because I knew right and wrong. I was taught right and wrong. I knew it. And there are consequences. And you learn this, this is a fact for the rest of your life. There are consequences for your actions. And if you never face a consequence for your action as a child, how are you going to know it as an adult until you do it now? You have consequences. And it could be prison, you know, jail, your health. I mean, there's consequences for all of our actions. And so I just want to encourage people to study it out. But discipline. Your children need to be disciplined.

[Kenneth Copeland]

That's right.

[John Copeland]

Otherwise, they're just. They're lost. And they need that structure.

[Kenneth Copeland]

I was under double jeopardy. My mother would find out who my teachers are going to be the next year, and she'd invite him over to the house. And she said, now, if you have to spank him, you do it and you let me know. Because when he gets home, he's going to get another one. Well, that went a long ways toward me behaving in school now. And it's the words. You can't get away from words.

[Kelly Copeland]

That's the way the Lord disciplines us, is his word.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Now let's go here to second Corinthians, chapter four. Look at the 13th verse. We having the same spirit of faith, According as it is written. I believed, therefore have I spoken, therefore we speak. Fear is the exact opposite of faith. I heard the Lord say this one time, fear tolerated is faith contaminated. You don't tolerate fear. So in knowing that, and I think I mentioned this before, I took the both of them, before they were old enough to have a car, and took them out and showed it to them. Isn't this wonderful? One of these days, you're going to want one of them and you're going to have them, and Daddy's crazy going to get run over. No, no, no, no, no. Don't instill fear in them. Yeah, but look at the size of this thing. It squishy like a bug. But they're wonderful. They're a wonderful piece of machinery. We walked all the way around it. I said no. And anyway, I said, now, children, now listen. This means that you really need to be watching and looking where you're going when you start across the street or something like that, you look both ways. Yeah.

[John Copeland]

You taught us to respect it.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Yes.

[John Copeland]

Not fear it.

[Kenneth Copeland]

We didn't fear it.

[John Copeland]

You taught me to respect heights because I was walking along a wall that was pretty tall. And you're like, john, come here a minute. And you taught me to respect the fact that this is how if you fall, you could get hurt. But you didn't teach me to fear it.

[Kenneth Copeland]

No, the book will tell you the proper way to raise a child. The Bible said God chose Abraham because he would teach his children. Amen. Now we come on over here. Let's go to chapter five, because this is a key chapter on faith. For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a Building of God. A house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. For in this we groan earnestly, desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven. He's telling the truth because he'd been to heaven. Caught up in the third heavens, he wanted to go back. My captain was Bob deweese. And when we were flying together, he had a massive heart attack on a handball court. Massive. And he. And he said he and Charlotte were telling this. He said, suddenly I was in the most beautiful place I've ever been in my life. And he said there was a fence over here and over here. And he said, this is a small road. He said it wasn't a path, it was a road. And he said, far as I could tell, it was hand carved mahogany. He said it was absolutely beautiful. And he said, I saw the lights. And he said, and Bob's an athlete all of his life? And he said, kenneth, all of a sudden he said, I never felt so much power in my legs. He was not aware that he was out of his body. He said, all I wanted to do was run. And he said, I'm home. And he said, I started running. And he said, all of a sudden I was being pulled back. And Charlotte said. And all of a sudden he was in the hospital. And Charlotte said, you want me to tell you what he said? This is big. Did he say, charlotte, thank you for saving my life? He said, charlotte, what did you do that for? He didn't want to come back. Later, whenever there was a gathering going on there. I don't remember now what he said. Kenneth, come on outside with me. He said, heaven's pulling on me. It's pulling on me. That's what made me think of it. It was pulling on him. He wanted to go back. He said, it's pulling on me. I don't know how long I can stay. Well, it wasn't long. It's pulling on me. Now you know why and I know why. There's not more people that get anything more out of heaven than what they see in the book of Revelation and what this great apostle talked to about it. Because it'll start pulling on you and pulling on you. You want to go. You want to go back. So now, here we go. Therefore, we are always confident, knowing that while we're at home in the body, we're absent from the Lord. For we walk by faith and not by sight. We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body to be present with the Lord. Wherefore we labor the Cross reference says, we endeavor that whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. And I wrote out here, faith, explanation, point. We've already found that out. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that everyone may receive of the things done in his body according to that which he hath done, whether it be good or. Or bad. We were driving home one night from Southwest, and I was tired and John was driving, and he just reached over there and got me by the hand. All of a sudden I felt better. Faith and energy came out of him. Depression was just almost a way of life for me. The last time Gloria walked up behind me and put her hands on my shoulder and she said, kenneth, she never said anything. I didn't say anything about it being there. She sensed it. She and I are one. She put her hands on my shoulders. She said, jesus finds no fault in you and neither do I. Instead of fighting and finding fault with one another and fussing with one another all the time, well, you can change it with love and faith. Read the life story of Smith Wigglesworth. He told Polly if she went to church again, just not come back. He put her stuff out in the porch. So she just slept out there on the porch. And he went and got. She said, smith, you ready for breakfast? After I just shoved her out, it broke him. Love fails. Now, as we continue to read this, this is a pivotal, pivotal chapter in the Bible. We only have 30 seconds and we'll finish it tomorrow. But this is the one that tells us we're new creatures. Glory to God. We'll be back in just a moment. Foreign.

[Narrator/Announcer]

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[Kenneth Copeland]

Now I'm going to ask you a question that I've asked, I'm sure into the hundreds or maybe thousands of people. Personally, I know you believe in God, but has there ever been a time in your life where you just absolutely turned your life complete? Whoa, whoa, whoa. No. No. Stop it. Stop it right now. You stop it, you suicide demon. You stop it right now. In the name of Jesus. Take your life. Give it away. Give it to Jesus. He'll take it and do something with it right now. Where you just do this, and I'll just lead you right now. Lord Jesus. Come on.

[Kelly Copeland]

Lord Jesus.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Come into my heart.

[John Copeland]

Come into my heart.

[Kenneth Copeland]

I receive you as my Lord and my Savior. And according to your word in John 3:16.

[John Copeland]

John 3:16.

[Kenneth Copeland]

I am born again.

[John Copeland]

I am born again.

[Kenneth Copeland]

I'm a new creature in Christ Jesus.

[John Copeland]

I'm a new creature in Christ Jesus.

[Kenneth Copeland]

I thank you with all of my heart.

[John Copeland]

I thank you with all my heart.

[Kenneth Copeland]

And I believe the Bible. I am now saved. I am now saved. Whole.

[John Copeland]

Whole.

[Kenneth Copeland]

I'm healed and well.

[John Copeland]

I'm healed and well.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Fill me to overflowing with youh, Holy Spirit.

[John Copeland]

Fill me to overflowing with youh, Holy Spirit.

[Kenneth Copeland]

I now receive my supernatural prayer language. And I plan to speak with other tongues. I plan to speak with other tongues just like they did on the day of Pentecost. And according to youo word, according to your Word, this day I receive power in my life. Now just lift your hands and obey God. Oh, thank you, Jesus. Father, if there are things that need to be prayed, but and you need something to be prayed, use my voice. Use my words. Thank you, Jesus. Glory to you now. Oh, glory be to God. Oh, glory be to God. Oh, glory be to God. Oh, glory be to God. My spirit's moving like a river to move in, out. And put out the fire of doubt and put out the fire of sickness and disease. And put out the fire and the terribleness of adultery and the fire that is accusing and criticizing people. For just now, the love of God, the love of Christ has been shed abroad in your heart by the Holy Spirit.

[Kelly Copeland]

We thank you, Lord.

[Kenneth Copeland]

And oh Lord, we thank you for it in Jesus name.

[Kelly Copeland]

Thank you Lord.

[Kenneth Copeland]

We'll send this little book to you free and postpaid. He did it all for you and the little brochures that will teach you how to read your Bible and how to learn from it. These are great resources for your journey of faith. Thank you God. God loves you and we love him and Jesus is Lord. Hallelujah. If you receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior, request the Salvation Package from Kenneth Copeland ministries, free on kcm.org salvation.