Faith Never Quits 10/23/2023

Summary

Believer's Voice of Victory Podcast Summary
Episode: Faith Never Quits
Release Date: October 23, 2023
Host: Kenneth Copeland Ministries

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Introduction and Welcome

The episode "Faith Never Quits" opens with vibrant greetings and expressions of gratitude among the hosts. Kenneth Copeland emphasizes a life led by faith rather than sight, stating, "I move by what I feel. I don't live by what I see because my God has made a way." (00:02). George Pearsons and Jesse Duplantis join in, celebrating the resurrection and the unwavering hope in Jesus' return, underscoring the importance of singing and rejoicing in faith (00:18; 00:25).

Establishing Faith Organizations

Andre and Jenny Rapert are introduced as guests, bringing attention to their "Faith Dome," "Faith Church," and "Faith TV Network" initiatives across Africa. Jesse Duplantis shares insights on divine calling, highlighting that God's purpose often transcends human strength and current circumstances (02:13). The dialogue emphasizes that the journey of faith is continuous and ever-expanding, with Duplantis remarking, "The walk of faith never stops." (03:11).

Faith in Action and Biblical Foundations

George Pearsons shares a personal anecdote about a faith symbol in his closet, illustrating how faith is a constant presence in daily life (02:13). The hosts delve deep into biblical scriptures, discussing the creation narrative from Genesis and its interpretation through the lens of faith. George emphasizes the significance of the term "Elohim" and its plural form, suggesting a deeper, multifaceted understanding of God (05:07; 06:10).

Jesse Duplantis reinforces this by connecting the creation story to the Book of Hebrews, stating, "He did it by faith." (06:30). The conversation highlights the harmony between biblical accounts and scientific findings, such as the fossil record, asserting that God’s creative work spans millions of years and was executed in six days, with divine intervention evident throughout (07:50; 08:09).

Great Faith vs. Little Faith

A significant portion of the episode focuses on understanding different measures of faith. Kenneth Copeland articulates that faith is not merely about its size but its quality, free from fear and doubt. He cites Jesus' admonishments to the disciples during a storm and Peter's faltering walk on water as examples where fear contaminated faith (11:02; 12:28). Copeland elaborates, "When faith is contaminated with fear, it reduces its power almost immediately." (11:48).

The hosts contrast this with instances of great faith, such as the centurion in Matthew 8 and the Syrophoenician (Canaanite) woman in Matthew 15. These examples showcase unwavering belief and conviction, leading to miraculous outcomes. George Pearsons recounts the Canaanite woman's persistent faith, which ultimately compelled Jesus to grant her request, demonstrating faith's transformative power when free from fear (15:30; 17:49).

Overcoming Challenges to Maintain Uncontaminated Faith

Andre and Jenny Rapert discuss the inevitable challenges and attempts to compromise faith. Jesse Duplantis emphasizes the necessity of remaining steadfast and not allowing distractions or negative influences to dilute one's faith (20:52). Kenneth Copeland reinforces this by referencing teachings from prominent faith leaders like Oral Roberts and T.L. Lowery, who advocated for unwavering faith even in the face of adversity (23:08; 23:37).

The conversation highlights strategies to protect and nurture faith, such as immersing oneself in the Word of God and avoiding fear-driven compromises. George Pearsons introduces the concept that "fear tolerated is faith contaminated," stressing the importance of rejecting fear to maintain pure faith (26:47).

Encouragement and Closing Remarks

As the episode nears its conclusion, the hosts encourage listeners to internalize and actively proclaim their faith. Jesse Duplantis uses the metaphor of becoming a "lion" inside, urging believers to roar with faith in every aspect of their lives (21:39). Kenneth Copeland and George Pearsons reiterate the importance of uncontaminated faith, shared through personal anecdotes and biblical references.

The episode wraps up with motivational affirmations and a reminder to memorize and vocalize declarations of faith, such as "God loves me, God loves you, and Jesus is Lord." This serves as a final exhortation to maintain a victorious and unyielding faith (27:56).

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Notable Quotes

• Kenneth Copeland (00:02):
  "I move by what I feel. I don't live by what I see because my God has made a way."

• George Pearsons (05:07):
  "The word 'seek' can be translated to 'research,' connecting our pursuit of faith with diligent study."

• Jesse Duplantis (03:11):
  "The walk of faith never stops. If you think it's ever going to get easy, you are missing it."

• Kenneth Copeland (11:48):
  "When faith is contaminated with fear, it reduces its power almost immediately."

• George Pearsons (26:47):
  "Fear tolerated is faith contaminated. You can't mix the two without diluting faith."

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Conclusion

"Faith Never Quits" serves as a powerful exploration of unwavering faith, drawing heavily from biblical narratives and personal testimonies. The hosts emphasize that true faith remains steadfast despite challenges, fears, and doubts. By maintaining a high-quality, uncontaminated faith rooted in the Word of God, believers can experience victorious Christian living. This episode is a testament to the enduring strength of faith and its pivotal role in the life of a believer.

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Timestamp Reference

For ease of navigation, notable quotes and sections are referenced with their corresponding timestamps throughout the transcript. Listeners can refer to these timestamps to revisit specific parts of the discussion.

Transcript

[Kenneth Copeland]

I move by what I feel. I don't live by what I see because my God has made a way.

[George Pearsons]

For me. Here it is Monday. Isn't that wonderful?

[Jesse Duplantis]

Come on.

[George Pearsons]

I'm telling you, the resurrection didn't happen last night, but it could be fore dark tonight. Jesus is coming, I'm telling you now. And we need to be aware of it all the time and sing songs about it and just have a good time. And Father, we thank you again this week. The wonders of faith in action and the things that you've taught us over the years and the wonderful, marvelous things. And the more we learn, the more we find out how much we don't know. And we're hungry. I'm the hungriest man on this planet. For the word of God and insight and ideas, concepts, we thank you.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Hallelujah.

[George Pearsons]

And today we give you all the praise and the honor and the glory.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Amen.

[George Pearsons]

For all of the words spoken in Jesus name. Amen. Let's welcome again this week Andre and Jenny Rapert. I practiced on the way home and the reason this is sitting on my desk here this morning is they gave this to me and this is their logo and I have it in my closet. I have a walk in closet there and, and my suits are over here and support shirts and stuff. But right here there's a chest of drawers right there and faith looks me right in the face. I can't walk in that closet without seeing faith with that blood red star right over the top of it. Now you finish it and tell where that came from.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Hallelujah. Well, what a great, great honor to be with you again this week. And faith is now. Now. And really when the Lord spoke to us about building the Faith Dome, about establishing the Faith Church, establishing the Faith TV Network all over the continent of Africa, we knew that the job God had for us and the purpose that he had for us, Brother Kenneth, was not in our strength. We could not do it. And I want you to realize that that's the difference between where you walk and where faith kicks in. Because you walk in the natural. But what God's purpose and plan for your life is and the vision for your life is always something bigger than where you are right there. There's always a greater call, there's always a greater purpose. There's always a greater reason.

[George Pearsons]

God is never finished.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Never finished. And he's always stretching us. He's always. You know, we were joking the other day. We've been in ministry 32 years now and we were joking the other day. We Say, does it ever stop? And we came to realize it never stops. The walk of faith never stops. If you think it's ever going to get easy, all right. If you think it's ever going to get okay not to be in faith, you are. You're missing it. All right? The walk of faith is a continuous journey. When you give your heart to Jesus, you move into another level. You operate in faith, and you watch faith produce for you.

[George Pearsons]

That's right.

[Jesse Duplantis]

In every area. That's the joy, that's the pleasure of faith, is watching faith work on your behalf. And that's what the name God gave us. And that's where the logo came from. The goodness of God in every area of our lives.

[George Pearsons]

And these come in all sizes, but this is one in my closet, and I just brought it this morning to let you see it and realize what it means to me to have that.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Yeah.

[George Pearsons]

And Andre, I had this. This came up in my spirit in the night last night, and I haven't been. I mentioned it to you this morning about. In the beginning, God, right? And people don't research. Notice this in your mind. A ask, right? Seek and what? Knock. A S K. All right. The seek can be translated research.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Right.

[George Pearsons]

The blb. In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Come on.

[George Pearsons]

Well, so what? Well, I'll tell you what. So what? In the beginning, God. Come on. Elohim, plural, rulers, judges, divine ones, angels, Gods, Plural, intensive, singular, meaning God. God is godlike work or special possessions of God, the true God. Elohim. In the beginning, God created the heaven. The earth was without form and void. And darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, right. Come on, come on. The Spirit was moving.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Come on, come on.

[George Pearsons]

All three of them were there. El God. Elohim, plural. If you just read God, you've missed a major thing. Huge.

[Jesse Duplantis]

That's right.

[George Pearsons]

And then you go to the Book of Hebrews and you find out he did it by faith.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Amen.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Right, Right. Come on, come on.

[George Pearsons]

That right there. I mean, those two things. Oh, Jesus. He did it. Oh, and listen to this. And here's another thing. And then I want you to just take it up and talk on what you were talking to me about this morning. But this was just so strong within me. In the beginning, Elohim created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form and void, and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. It had been flooded already. This was the first flood. Noah was the second one. And we can go to the book of Isaiah and so forth and see it. We can prove it. Yeah, but nobody even talks about that. But we need to, because he did it by faith.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Amen.

[George Pearsons]

What about the millions and millions of years? Didn't he do it in seven days? The fossil record does not lie. They're there. There are eons of time. The heavens prove it between those two verses.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Right.

[George Pearsons]

So there's no need for us to debate whether it was done in six days or not. It was most definitely redone in six days. And he rested on the seventh.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Amen.

[George Pearsons]

It was done. So now we know why he's the only one that knows when our star is going to shut down. He created it. He put it there. He knows the second that he turned it on, and that's his business. And anybody else tells you any different, you refer them to Jesus. That's in his prerogative.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Praise God.

[George Pearsons]

But to show the goodness and the awesomeness of our God.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Yeah.

[George Pearsons]

At the speed of light. I was doing morning services in a synagogue. We didn't have a place for the morning services in this meeting. And the rabbi came in and showing me in there, and he said, now, Brother Copeland, he said, this is my office and my study. He said, just help yourself. And I found in one of his translations, in one of his books. And God said, light be and light be. Wow. And Young's analytical comes that close.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Come on.

[George Pearsons]

So go.

[Jesse Duplantis]

The walk of faith is something that you have to be in a place of never quitting.

[George Pearsons]

Yes.

[Jesse Duplantis]

You know, Jen, we were talking and maybe let's talk about that a little bit. You know, great faith, little faith. And it's very interesting, there's different measures of faith, because I want to tie this in with those.

[George Pearsons]

Used those phrases.

[Kenneth Copeland]

He did, yeah.

[George Pearsons]

Or is your faith, o ye of little faith and no faith, marveled at their unbelief.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, but there's something very interesting, isn't it?

[Kenneth Copeland]

Well, you know what I love about the word is it just keeps on confirming itself all the time. And when Jesus spoke about faith.

[George Pearsons]

I'll say that again, Jenny.

[Kenneth Copeland]

I said that the word keeps on confirming itself again and again and again.

[George Pearsons]

If it doesn't, you're on the wrong page. Exactly.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Or in the wrong book.

[George Pearsons]

Yeah. Those promises are there. Peter called them the exceeding, great and precious promises. And that's what they're for. Amen.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Praise God. So when Jesus spoke about faith, which is so encouraging because we know that's we have no option. That's how we live. The just shall live by faith. So we kind of really need to understand everything we can about faith so we can live it because it's the only way we please him. And he would speak about the different measures of faith, just like Brother Copeland said. And you know what I found so amazing is when he spoke about little faith, whenever he used that phrase, ye of little faith, it always was associated with fear, worry, or fear.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Yeah.

[Kenneth Copeland]

So when we speak about it, when he spoke about the measure of faith, I don't believe that it so much was quantity as much as it was quality. Because every time faith is contaminated with fear, it just reduces its power almost immediately. And so we find, and I'll give you examples, when Peter spoke, or rather Jesus spoke about this little faith, remember the disciples when that huge storm was there, all on the boat, and they were terrified, they were terrified for their lives. And when Jesus stood up and you know, his first reaction was, oh, ye of little faith.

[George Pearsons]

That's right.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Because there was so much fear that contaminated their faith. The other time was when Peter was walking on the water, the most amazing experience I could just imagine anybody ever having, walking on the water with Jesus. But the moment, as we know the story, he took his focus off of the Lord and onto the circumstances around him. He got overcome and overwhelmed by fear and began to sink. But Jesus reached out, took his hand, pulled him up, and his words, oh, Peter, why do you doubt? Do you have little faith again?

[George Pearsons]

So again, he's the only one got out of the boat.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Exactly, exactly. Absolutely. We will always give him credit for that. But then I find also in Matthew chapter six, the same thing comes again when Jesus speaks about, you know, do not worry, do not be fretful, do not fear. And even in there, he speaks about, don't be of little faith. So every time it's connected to worry or doubt or fear, but when he speaks about great faith, it shows there's an instance of absolutely no doubt, no fear, completely persuaded, just like Abraham.

[Jesse Duplantis]

That's right.

[Kenneth Copeland]

And that happened. The centurion. Remember Jesus greatest day, I think, was in Matthew chapter 8. It was just one healing after the next. Great miracles, just wonderful. But do you remember when the centurion came and said, oh, you know, my daughter is so sick, I need you to come, please come to my house. And Jesus said, sure, I'm coming. Because he's always willing, always willing. But do you remember what the centurion said? He said, no, you don't even have to do that. Just say the word, just speak the word, and I know she will be healed. And Jesus stopped everybody, turned around and said, I have never found anybody, in fact, in this whole area that has as great faith as this man. Why? Because there was no doubt, there was no questioning, there was no fear involved. He was literally speaking from the conviction of his heart. He believed. He believed. And so Jesus called him, O you of great faith. Now, the other time he used it, which really touched my heart, was with the Syrophoenician woman, or she's also been known as the Canaanite woman. Just amazing. I believe she's in Matthew 14. And there again, you know, Jesus said to her, because she wanted her daughter to be healed because she was demon possessed and kept on hurting herself. And I remember Jesus saying to her, well, it's not my time. It's not my time to heal you. This is for God's children, the Israelites first. You're a Canaanite, if you paraphrase. And in fact, he insulted her and called her a dog, if I remember correctly. I'm thinking, wow, Jesus, you did that. But all he was doing was testing her to see how much she really was prepared to. Hold on.

[George Pearsons]

Let's take a look at this.

[Kenneth Copeland]

She knew he was. Amen.

[George Pearsons]

Hang on. Just here.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Matthew 15.

[George Pearsons]

Yeah, I will, but I'm going to look at something else here in. Jesus said, here?

[Jesse Duplantis]

Yeah.

[George Pearsons]

While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, saying, what think ye of Christ? Whose son is he? They said, son of David.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Yeah.

[George Pearsons]

Mercy in Hebrew is chesed.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Hmm.

[George Pearsons]

It's a covenant word that means the greater covenant becomes equal with the smaller. The greater brings the smaller up. Jehoshaphat inquired of the people, and they said, we'll put out singers in front of the army. What were they crying in the King James? God is good, his mercy God is good. His chesed endures forever.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Praise the Lord.

[George Pearsons]

The moment they did that, then God moved and turned that whole army against itself because of chesed.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Come on, come on.

[George Pearsons]

She shouted, son of David, Son of David, have mercy on me.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Wow. That's awesome.

[George Pearsons]

He finally had to do something.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Yes.

[George Pearsons]

She stepped out of time and over into what he would eventually be. And there was no way he just going to see how long. And the disciples came around and said, get her out of here. He wouldn't answer them either. He just kept on ignoring her. Finally, she called him Lord.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Yep.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Yeah.

[George Pearsons]

And then he said, well, okay, Son of David, do chesed for me. Bartimaeus Yep. Son of David. Son of David. Do chesed for me. Mercy. Have mercy on me.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Right.

[George Pearsons]

They stopped.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Yeah. Yeah.

[George Pearsons]

He recognized the covenant language.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Amen.

[George Pearsons]

Isn't that amazing?

[Jesse Duplantis]

That's incredible.

[George Pearsons]

And that's the reason. That's the reason Cornelius got his attention. He's a soldier.

[Jesse Duplantis]

That's right.

[George Pearsons]

And he said, one translation said, I am not important enough for you to come under my roof. You speak the word of mouth.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Yeah.

[George Pearsons]

And now you see something. Cornelius at the crucifixion said, this must have been the Son of God. And he kept praying.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Come on.

[George Pearsons]

And an angel came. If you check that area out right there. Caesarea. Right there. Close. Pilate was from the same area. They were right there together. He was a garrison commander. Only one centurion in that whole area. And it's Cornelius.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Come on.

[George Pearsons]

And the Lord picked him because of his giving.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Right?

[George Pearsons]

Right.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Wow.

[George Pearsons]

And the Lord said, you sin. That angel said, you send for a man named Peter. I'm so impressed you took this. The two of you took this assignment from the Spirit of God. Totally, completely impossible. You can't do that. There's too many buildings here. This doesn't work. No, no, no, no, no, no. Come on, Andre. Just forget this. You can't put this together. There's all these hodgepodge of buildings, and that doesn't work. Just. Why don't you just behave yourself, Essentially? That's really what they were telling you, weren't they?

[Jesse Duplantis]

Correct. Correct. Every opportunity that the enemy had through people to be able to try and chisel away our faith, try and break down what we were believing, what God had shown us was another way and another opportunity that they were trying to. Can I use the word in a sense? Break us down to cause us to.

[George Pearsons]

Well, they thought they were doing you a favor, because this is never going to work, and you're going to be disappointed. Don't get your hopes up, because they will be dashed. But that's what people do. Well, not all of them, but some.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Correct. And the thing that we have to learn, and that's what Jenny was saying over here, is so critical.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Don't be distracted.

[Jesse Duplantis]

You cannot allow yourself when God gives you a word. When God speaks to you, you cannot allow yourself to be distracted. And you cannot allow yourself to listen to the voices in the wilderness and those that have not heard from God. Those that haven't got the clarity.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Right.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Those that haven't got the Word on it. And that's. That's the amazing thing about the Word.

[George Pearsons]

Yes, it is.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Once you've got the word on the inside of you.

[George Pearsons]

Thank you, Jesus.

[Jesse Duplantis]

You become a lion on the inside of you. You have to roar with faith.

[George Pearsons]

Yes, you do.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Faith just has to come out of you in every area.

[George Pearsons]

Having done all that, and whether it's.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Sickness over your body or whether it's a lack of finances or whether it's family dynamics or problems that you're facing or situations that come, or work environments, whatever, you've got to understand, all of these things are trying to break you down. For what reason? To allow fear to come into the situation. That's why I wanted Jenny to share that, because here's the key. When fear gets in, you move from a position of great faith into a position of little faith.

[George Pearsons]

Compromise.

[Jesse Duplantis]

You compromise. Your faith is. Now it's the same faith. It's the same faith, but your faith is then officially contaminated.

[George Pearsons]

Yes, it is.

[Jesse Duplantis]

So what we have to do as children of God is we have to make sure our faith is never, ever contaminated.

[Kenneth Copeland]

And you know what? It's not even that you need the great quantity, because we've all been given the measure of faith. But Jesus said it just has to be as small as a mustard seed.

[George Pearsons]

Yeah.

[Kenneth Copeland]

It's just little faith. As long as it's uncontaminated faith.

[George Pearsons]

And it can increase to great faith. Yes.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Yes. Absolutely.

[George Pearsons]

And she proved that. Cornelius proved that.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Yes.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Come on.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Hallelujah.

[George Pearsons]

Forgive me for interrupting you. Jenny, go ahead and finish what you were saying.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Praise God.

[George Pearsons]

I've noticed this going on 57 years now. Yeah. And I had wonderful training. Oral Roberts and Kenneth Hagin and T.L. lowry and men like that and others. T.L. osborne. And I've noticed this. There will come an opportunity to compromise.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Come on. That's right.

[George Pearsons]

You're going to get the opportunity.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Yeah. Yeah.

[George Pearsons]

And Brother Roberts preached on that on the fiery furnace when he preached on the fourth man.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Come on.

[George Pearsons]

And he said, whatever you do, don't compromise your faith. He said, you bow, you burn. If you don't bow, you can't burn.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Hallelujah.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Come on, you.

[George Pearsons]

Just like Jenny said, you keep that faith on the line, right? And it'll just keep growing. And you go over there at the Book of Luke and you find out faith is your servant. Jesus said so.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Praise God.

[Jesse Duplantis]

That's right. Amen.

[George Pearsons]

Glory to God.

[Jesse Duplantis]

Hallelujah.

[Kenneth Copeland]

Thank you, Father.

[Andre Rapert]

Uh.

[George Pearsons]

Oh. The sign went up. We're out of time. Okay. Well, let's see. Oh, yeah. Hallelujah. Thank you, Lord Jesus. We'll be back in just a moment.

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[George Pearsons]

Many years ago this phrase just flowed out of my mouth. The Word of the Lord came and he said, fear tolerated Is faith contaminated. You can't mix the two of them without diluting faith. And that's what the devil is out to do all the time. And it is. You cannot tolerate that in the name. I mean just look it right flat in the face and say take your hands off my body. It doesn't belong to you. It belongs to Jesus. Now get. Amen. Hallelujah. Hey, hey. You know what we're going to do tomorrow? We're going to take up right here. Come on and just have a big time. So remember this. Always remember this. Get to where you just memorize it. You say it all the time. That God loves you. Say it. God loves me, God loves me. God loves you, we love you and Jesus is Lord. Hallelujah. Praise God Forevermore.

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