Is the Bartender Flirting or Just Doing Their Job? #175

Summary

Bellied Up Podcast – Episode #175

Is the Bartender Flirting or Just Doing Their Job?
November 13, 2025

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Overview

In this laughter-filled episode of Bellied Up, hosts Charlie Berens and Myles “You Betcha Guy” reunite at the original bar from their first episodes to take live calls from Midwest listeners. The major theme revolves around the blurry line between bartenders doing their job and actual flirting—brought home by a caller seeking advice about a potential romance at his local bar. Along the way, Charlie and Myles riff on quitting nicotine, Midwest bar culture, family dynamics at deer camp, and provide genuinely insightful advice—all with their trademark banter and Midwestern wit.

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Episode Highlights & Key Topics

1. Back at the OG Bar & Reflections on Quitting Nicotine

• Timestamps: 00:00 – 16:24
• Charlie and Myles are broadcasting from the very first bar they ever used for the podcast, celebrating their legacy with nostalgia and jokes about the bar’s legendary sturdiness.
• Charlie opens up about his journey quitting nicotine: from swiping half-smoked cigarettes as a kid to trying gum and Zyns, culminating in his current (mostly) nicotine-free lifestyle.
  • "I think I had one of the first Zyns that ever came into this country." – Charlie (04:51)
  • Myles humorously holds Charlie accountable in front of listeners, teasing him about relapses and support.
  • Insights into addiction, quitting strategies, and dealing with cravings.
  • Charlie’s advice: “You don’t need to quit forever. You just need to quit for 10 minutes.” (12:25)
  • Book idea: A diary-style addiction memoir that restarts every few weeks after slip-ups.

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2. Caller #1: Eric and "Is the Bartender Flirting?"

• Timestamps: 16:24 – 46:47

Eric’s Story & Dilemma

• Eric calls in with a smooth, radio-ready voice and a relatable question: does his local bartender in small-town Wisconsin actually like him, or is she just being friendly for tips?
  • He references classic bar tropes: heavier pours, occasional free drinks, teaching him bar dice rules, and deep jukebox chats.
  • He describes an interaction: "There is an energy... a vibe. This couple next to me just straight out asks me, 'Are you two dating?'” (25:27)
  • Some physical touch (a grab and hold of the hand) but nothing overt.

Hosts’ Analysis & Advice

• Myles & Charlie break down bartender behaviors: free drinks, heavy pour, chatting about music—all “good bartender” moves, not clear-cut signs of romantic interest.
• Physical touch and frequent, locked-in eye contact are possible indicators, but caution is warranted.
  • “You have described not someone who is necessarily interested in you, as much as you’ve described a good bartender, someone who's good at their job.” – Charlie (24:35)
  • "In the business, we call that sending doomy eyes." – Myles (28:20)

How To Move Forward?

• Strategies for ‘breaking the bubble’:
  1. The Ticket Approach: Secure tickets to a bluegrass show and casually offer her one; thoughtful but low-pressure.
     • “That might be giving a mixed signal, though—like maybe you’re not interested. Or you get three tickets, say ‘bring a friend’... though that could backfire!” – Charlie (35:12)
  2. “Touchpoint” Approach: Get her number for a music-related reason, send articles or record store finds, and see how the dynamic develops outside the bar.
  3. The “Help Out” Move: Offer help closing the bar—a very Midwest, low-key method.
• Both hosts stress maintaining the friendship and not making things awkward at the local bar if romance doesn’t pan out.
  • “You seem like a guy who's going for the full person, not just a one-night thing. And I guarantee everyone else in that bar... is going for that one-night thing.” – Charlie (40:25)
• Eric decides he’ll start subtle—via a sexy jukebox playlist—and will report back (“bellied update”).

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3. Caller #2: Ava and the Deer Camp Gender Divide

• Timestamps: 52:10 – 82:47

Ava’s Situation

• Recently returned to Chippewa Falls, WI, after a master’s in Barcelona; living at her childhood home, job-hunting, and mulling Midwest traditions.
• She wants to join her father and brother at deer camp—a space long dominated by men in her family, though her cousin Meg has recently broken that barrier.

Hosts’ Deep-Dive: Midwest Gender Roles & Deer Camp Politics

• Charlie and Myles frame the deer camp as a sacred “guys’ trip”—a retreat threatened by including women, at least in some men’s eyes.
  • “Guys are primal creatures, and they need that time... Guys being dudes, and that's hunting and golfing and stuff like that.” – Myles (62:13)
• Candid discussion about changing traditions, generational divides, and why there was resistance despite Meg’s inclusion.

Advice: Strategies for Fitting In

• The hosts suggest ways to “prove” Ava can hang at camp, tongue-in-cheek:
  • Start chewing tobacco, up the beer intake, engage in “locker-room” humor.
  • Find an ally among the uncles; use subtle bribery or leverage her tomboy skills.
  • “You gotta take the alpha dog status!” – Myles (73:37)
  • Consider differentiating herself by going for bow hunting.
• An improv family skit: Charlie and Myles roleplay her dad and brother to (hilariously) simulate the banter and hazing she’d face at camp.
  • "You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning." – Ava (77:44)
  • “You should have been a boy,” becomes a running, satirical refrain about breaking through these Midwestern barriers.
• Ultimately, the hosts encourage persistence, suggest that the time is ripe for Ava to assert herself, and leave her with the goal of “ripping and gripping.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Built like a brick shithouse.” – Charlie, describing the podcast bar (00:51)
• “The people who think they can pick up the bartender are the people who think like the government is following them.” – Charlie (19:37)
• “Is it love or a bigger tip?” – Myles, introducing a recurring bit (23:51)
• “If she sends you one text back or just a thumbs up... then you know.” – Myles, about low-key flirting vs. disinterest (39:08)
• “That song’s erotic, dude. If you watch the intensity in Lion King…” – Charlie, on choosing a jukebox playlist (44:43)
• Ava roleplays the deer camp banter: “You wish, Grant!” – Ava, shutting down her fake brother (76:40)
• “You gotta love some toxic masculinity in the morning.” – Myles (81:09)

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Call Segment Timestamps

• Quit Nicotine Story & Advice: 00:00 – 16:24
• Caller #1: Eric & Bartender Dilemma: 16:24 – 46:47
  • [Love or Tip? Segment begin:] 23:51
  • [Physical Touch Analysis:] 25:39
  • [Jukebox Song Strategy & Eye Contact:] 28:06
  • [How to Ask Without Being Creepy:] 33:46
• Caller #2: Ava & Deer Camp: 52:10 – 82:47
  • [Roleplay/Improv with Eva in Deer Camp:] 75:59

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Tone & Style

• Charming, self-deprecating Midwestern humor with plenty of running gags.
• Friendly, earnest advice mixed with comic exaggeration.
• Calls blend personal stories with improvisational bits, always circling back to the listeners and their questions.

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Takeaways

• For quitting nicotine: “Ten minutes at a time.” Small victories matter; the hosts’ humor makes the struggle relatable.
• For romance in Midwest bars: Most bartenders are just doing their jobs well; subtlety, friendship, and mutual interests are the best entry points for exploring more.
• For navigating traditional Midwest gender roles: Be persistent, prove you can fit in, but don’t betray your own style; self-assurance and humor go a long way toward breaking down old barriers.

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“Bellied Up” Take-Home

If you want to find out if the bartender likes you, pay close attention to their cues, but always err on the side of being respectful and not making things awkward. Whether quitting nicotine or breaking into deer camp, success follows honest effort, a thick skin, and a hearty sense of humor—all sprinkled with a little Midwest charm.

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Listen for: heartfelt advice hidden in jokes, relatable Midwest stories, and some of the best improvised bits you’ll find behind a (literal) Midwest bar.

Transcript

[A]

Hey, folks, welcome to the Bellied up podcast. I'm here with my buddy Miles. I pat him on the back at the wrong time. He was taking a sip of some coffee.

[B]

No, you're good.

[A]

It is.

[B]

It feels like it's 6:00am it does.

[A]

It feels.

[B]

Even though it's only 9:00am yeah.

[A]

Well, we are bellied up to, ladies and gentlemen, Charlie, the first bar ever from the Bellied up podcast. Those who know.

[B]

And there's been a lot of people wondering where that bar is in the comments. Right, Jared? Yeah. So here it is. We still got it. If you guys saw we lost it or, you know, I don't know how people. You just lose a bar of this magnitude.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But if anyone could do it, it would be.

[A]

It's true. That's true.

[B]

We still got it. Still sturdy. I mean, look at this thing.

[A]

Built like a brick shithouse.

[B]

Just a wedge of board to make it.

[A]

But I think, yeah, the. The structural integrity of our laziness in building this is well into play. I think we need four base is what we need. Yeah.

[B]

That's for another.

[A]

All right.

[B]

You know.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

But yeah, it's still here. This is episode one. We did this on. Right? And one and two. And what episode is this?

[A]

Roughly 175, 180 weeks ago. We did this.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

How old are we?

[B]

How long? How old are we?

[A]

How long have we been here? God. Yeah, it's. But this bar, man. Been here a lot longer than that. I'll tell you, this bar is probably been here like 3,000 weeks because I think it's.

[B]

You think this is B.C.

[A]

You think. You think. No, 3,000 weeks ago, that.

[B]

3,000 weeks?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Not years.

[A]

No.

[B]

I was like. You think that this is. This is older than Jesus?

[A]

No, I mean, it could be. Some of this wood, man. I. I don't know. I'm not sure I'd tell wood that old, but I can tell you this is old wood. Good wood. Old wood. This is solid ass tree, man. This is a first generation tree growth right here. You can feel it. So, Miles, how you been?

[B]

I've been good. How you been?

[A]

I quit nicotine.

[B]

Well, congratulations. Shut up, Miles. Congratulations.

[A]

Shut up. Shut up. Yeah, I quit. I quit. I quit doing it.

[B]

And how are you doing in that?

[A]

I'm doing fine.

[B]

Because there's a lot of people out there that are addicted to nicotine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And there's a lot of people who probably wish they weren't. And as someone now who's on the other side, talk me through what's going on. Well, what's it like?

[A]

It started off Miles started off a long, long time ago. I was. I was with my buddy Jay Riley and we were bike riding around town and we went up to church and outside a church that you were.

[B]

You went to church or you just.

[A]

Went by the church? We went to the church parking lot where people would put out their cigarettes and we would get their old used cigarette, but were in second grade and we would take them to the woods to smoke them. So that was my first introduction to nicotine.

[B]

How old were you actually?

[A]

Second, third, fourth. I just said second grade, but I'm trying to think when I actually met you.

[B]

I think that's crazy.

[A]

I think we were in fourth grade. Fourth grade. We were all years old. Yeah, we were biking around town, man. We were. We were biking through the woods. But you know, at some Jay's, at.

[B]

10 year old, you had your first cigarette. That's crazy.

[A]

Well, it was cigarette like it's. It was half a cigarette.

[B]

Yeah, but still. Cig.

[A]

I mean, but they were. Yeah, but we were just tasting them then. We didn't know what we were really doing. But that was my first introduction to nicotine.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Way back then. Yeah, you always knew some of them, the ones with the lipstick on, actually were pretty good. Oddly enough, whoever wore that red lipstick.

[B]

She would only smoke, had good taste in cigarettes.

[A]

Well, she would only smoke half the cigarettes, so we have more there. But yeah, Jay's dad would have a couple at night. So Jay knew how it was done. And you know, we were just, you know, we were just experimenting, just kids. But anyways, started back then. And then I never was a heavy smoker or anything like that, but I had a, you know, a heater. Yeah, a drunk heater.

[B]

Couple.

[A]

Couple heaters. And then. Yeah, you got going on that mouse nicotine. And then I was like, I gotta get off this, you know. And so I got on that Nicorette, or as my brother called it, all the penance, none the sin. And so then I was chawing away on that. And then lo and behold, I think I had one of the first Zins that ever came into this country. I was doing a show on or I don't know what I was doing.

[B]

Charlie Bear Zins over here.

[A]

Charlie Bear Zins? Yeah, yeah, it was early on. I had never seen one before. And there was a fellow of foreign fella from Norway or something. Sweden maybe. And that's where they make them. And he was dating a gal that I knew and he Pulled one out. I said, what is that? Because, you know, I could sniff out a nicotine if I didn't have.

[B]

I mean, you've been doing it since the second grade, you know.

[A]

Well, not. That's. That was just like, you know, that was my first date with nicotine, you know. But anyways, Miles, I'm. I'm going through the whole, like, history of me and nicotine.

[B]

I'm hearing it.

[A]

And so that's when I first understood what the Zinn was. And then I was like, oh, so there's no problem with this? You know, there's. There's no cancer thing. But we can't say that. We don't know.

[B]

We don't know.

[A]

We just know. I love how they put on the label. This chemical is super addictive. No shit. Yeah, that's why I'm coming back. I'll take two, you know. But yeah, I just. So I quit. I quit. I mean, my dad, I was ice fishing with him over the, over the winter and he opened up my car because I came around back in like four. You know how you turn your front seat. Your front seat in your car is just a garbage can. Correct. You know that you clear like once every two months? Yeah.

[B]

It's like you have different spots. You have the door right here. The door with the little, like, pocket on the door.

[A]

Yeah. And when that fills up. That fills up first.

[B]

Mine actually has a little one that's in. On the, like the center console. There's a little one. Yeah, I like one that's kind of out of sight, out of mind. It goes underneath your seat like it's on the floorboard, but it's all pushed up against your seat. And if you're sitting down, you can't see it.

[A]

No, you can't.

[B]

It's like you have a clean floorboard.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuz it's got that little, that little berm, that little trash BM right under there.

[B]

Put it right there. It kind of looks. It's kind of like the Mount Rushmore of garbage. You know, you got like a chuck wagon wrapper, you got a water bottle and.

[A]

Yeah, and here's the question. Never mind. So, yeah, anyway, my dad opens the door and then all it falls out. He goes, that was a man. You know, were you doing? You know what this does to your heart rate?

[B]

You know your dad's a doctor?

[A]

My dad. Yes, yes. And he gave me that, that lecture and what's it like?

[B]

Lecture like that at 37?

[A]

My dad's a scary man. He's like, the hell is the matter with you, huh? You use your head, you know, like so, you know, Now I, of course, ignored that for a long, long time, you know.

[B]

So what was the straw that broke the camel's back?

[A]

I think it just. I. I was just like, up. I think it was not good for general. I. For just for anxiety. I think it was just like keeping me up, you know, because it's like a stimulant. But yeah, if you get the heart rate going.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And. And also, you know, I. I went to the doctor and doctor was like, you know, your cholesterol is a little high. And I was like, but I eat healthy, you know, he's like, well, how's your stress level? I say it's fine. It's good. Where are my zins? You know, So I was like, all right, maybe I should try cutting back on that and then see if that helps. So. But so far it's been really stressful not being on it, Miles.

[D]

And.

[B]

But anyway, how, how long you've been.

[A]

You've been clean, you know, a little over a week.

[B]

You were playing that up like I am three months, so.

[A]

No, no, I mean, look, I had. I had a couple slip ups. I had a couple slip ups, but I've been. I've been on it for about a month. I've been off it for about a month, minus a couple slip ups. Okay, a couple slippy, slippy dippies, but a couple.

[B]

Charles, you need to stick with it, dude, because you need to be the success story that all the people listening need to know and hear. Know that Charlie Barrons, with his lack of willpower, can still quit nicotine.

[A]

I know. Because, you know, the funny thing is what you do with those ends because, you know, a lot of people will put them in their mouth and then, you know, use them till they're done. And then they'll be in a social situation, so they'll take them out of their mouth, put them in their back pocket. Just a wet Zen people will do that.

[B]

No, I know, but. But why does that matter?

[A]

Because how. How many loads of laundry do I need to do where the lint trap is just old zins, you know, like, how, how much. How many do I have to do? It's been enough. It's been enough. It's been enough time. But yeah, you're right. I'm going to stick with it. And I'll be honest with you, because now it's not.

[B]

You're not holding yourself accountable.

[A]

You need.

[B]

You now have accountability of all the viewers.

[A]

I didn't want to do this. That's not what I wanted to do. I want to come up here and tell you how I could really go.

[B]

I just want you to know that if you relapse, you're letting down the entire bellied up audience bellied up.

[A]

Look, I got to tell you this, Miles. They'll forgive me, okay? No.

[B]

Half of our audience are going to be like, quitter.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

What an idiot. I knew you couldn't stick it out.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know.

[B]

Barons is a wuss.

[A]

I bet he was only doing threes.

[B]

I thought he was chill. Turns out he's a narc.

[A]

I had a show. I had a show out in London when the. The packers were playing out there. So I was out there, and they. Out there in Europe, dude, they only sell like 15 milligram ones. Like, it's. I'm like, what is wrong with you people? You know? But they. They would. Yeah, they just had to, like, like, and they. Sometimes they don't even say the milligram. They just have, like a little meter on it that says, like, high, medium, low, you know, and you just have to get the.

[B]

The hot sauce at Buffalo Wild Wings. You know, you pick up. You pick up a packet says blazing challenge on it. You're like, I don't think this sounds good at all.

[D]

And the, The.

[A]

The equivalent of that of Zen is like, drive to California with no brakes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

24 hours straight, zoot o'. Clock.

[B]

So, I mean, one. I'm proud of you, Charles.

[A]

Yeah, thanks. Thank you.

[B]

Thank you. You know, what's the message you would say to someone out there who's thinking about doing it or knows that they need to, how do they get over the hump? Well, after being a guy who's quit for a month, kind of, and then for a full week now, as a such a big success story, what would you say to the folks?

[A]

Well, you know, I. I would say I. First of all, I think it's a lot of placebo. Like, like, you would be amazed how little of a difference there is not having it, minus the moments where you're like, damn, I could really go for one. But if you wait it out, if you waited out, like 10 minutes, you wait out the. The craving 10 minutes, you. You don't want anymore. And. And then over.

[B]

So, yeah, you don't need to quit forever. You just need to quit for 10 minutes.

[A]

10 minutes at a time.

[B]

And if you gotta set a timer, you know.

[A]

Yeah, seriously. And, oh, also, someone told Me, this. If you think about the emotion or the thought that made you want. What's the thought?

[B]

Trigger.

[A]

The trigger. The thought that made you want to have.

[B]

But.

[A]

But some people have a trigger to the word trigger. So some people are triggered by the word trigger. So I don't just relax, though. Well, I want to relax. Give me a nicotine. Do we have one? No, but you just write that down, you know, and you just look at that and then wait 10 minutes. Actually, I think I'm waiting 30 minutes. And then if after 30 minutes I still want it, they said take it. And so I haven't wanted it yet.

[B]

There we go.

[A]

Except for the few times that I took it.

[B]

Well, there you go, though. That's. That's the Baron's form, the Bear Zins formula.

[A]

Bears.

[B]

In this formula, you could write a book, Bears.

[A]

Although I feel like that I started writing this book.

[B]

I started writing this book after being sober from nicotine for one week. I am proof I improve that you can do it too. The book just stops like 10 pages in.

[A]

Because he just took it.

[B]

No, like chapter three. Like the book starts over. He's like, all right, so I relapsed. Let's try this again.

[A]

It's been three weeks since my last in Dear Diary. Yeah, well, you know what?

[B]

That would be the most accurate representation of addiction though, right?

[A]

It would, yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Books about addiction should be a diary. They shouldn't be, you know, advice.

[A]

I could probably publish that right now. I've. I've said. How long have I said I'm gonna quit these or I'm quitting them?

[B]

I mean, 180 episodes ago.

[A]

Yeah, 180 weeks ago. Yeah. So now I think I'm. I think I'm serious, Mouse.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Because the other thing you don't want is like you're. I've been buying them one at a time too. Because I'm like, I'm. I'm. This will help me quit, but it's just wasted so much of my time. Yeah.

[B]

Just making extra trips.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's.

[A]

It's just. Oh, well, Miles, what do you think? Should we. Should we take a call or there, pal?

[B]

We should.

[A]

Let's do it, guys.

[B]

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[A]

Miles, this week I'm coming to you from my shotgun seat to let you know that I'm going. Jordan Love, He's. He's thrown more than one half touchdowns. He's got to, especially after last week. All right, mark me down and watch for deer, Charlie.

[B]

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[D]

Hi, this is Eric. How are you?

[A]

Hey, Eric, it's Charlie. And I'm here with my buddy Miles.

[B]

What a. What a rich timber. There. You see this?

[D]

Oh, it's so nice to talk to you guys.

[A]

You should have a radio show, Eric.

[D]

Oh, thank you. Thank you.

[A]

You got a voice for radio.

[D]

How are you guys today?

[A]

Doing good, man, but I. I want you to. I feel like I want you to.

[B]

Yeah, give him a headline to read.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's actually a good idea.

[B]

You could do Charlie Bear Zins is one week sober off of nicotine.

[A]

Yeah, you want to do that one?

[D]

I would remember what you just said to me. I won't say it. Right.

[A]

Okay. How about flight Chaos continues amid shutdown.

[D]

Light Chaos continues amid shutdown.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Right? That's great.

[B]

That's great wire.

[A]

Also, I got to get on a flight soon. This is not a good idea. Maybe I should drive. Could you find that story and read me the whole thing?

[B]

It's going to be fine.

[A]

Okay, fine. All right.

[B]

I know a barren spiral when I see one. Helicopter.

[A]

Yeah, okay. Tailspin tail spins.

[B]

Are you flying?

[A]

Flying delta.

[B]

Yeah. Then you're fine.

[A]

All Right, Eric? Yeah. Eric. So we hear that perhaps a bartender has fallen in love with you.

[D]

Oh, I wouldn't go that far. But I do have some advice. I need some advice from you guys and I think it's something that the majority of your audience will probably have some empathy with. And that is. Yeah, I think, I think the bartender likes me.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

So the. Now there's like a universal rule. And so I watched my, you know, through my entire 20s, I have a good friend, Scott, and it was like a conquest for him. He had to pick up the bartender. That was like a thing. And it's watched him crash and burn and crash and burn and it was very entertaining to watch.

[B]

So his thing was like, he went to a bar and he's like, I, the only thing I care about tonight is trying to take home the bartender. That's what you're saying.

[D]

It was, it was, it was like a win for him. Yeah. And he was never successful and it was. But he, he's persistent guy. Love the guy. But it taught me that it's a kind of a universal rule and you tell me if you agree or not is. Is just leave the bartender alone. They're working. They kind of will, you know, learn or get some tips or whatever their strategy is. But yeah, you know, they're working.

[B]

The biggest thing is like, is like these guys or guys and gals have seen you in the form of a thousand other people. You know what I mean?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I feel like your buddy thought he was a little bit special. And it's like to the bartender, it's just another patron that's come in. You know what I mean?

[A]

The people, the same people who think they can pick up the bartender are the people who think like the government is following them, you know, like you got to have that much of an ego to think that someone would want you out of all the other people out there, you know? Right, right. And. Or they, or they've just done it once and now they think they have. They, they can do it a lot. But yeah, it's, it's. Does he also go to exotic dance facilities and the strippers are really into him.

[D]

I won't incriminate him anymore in that way. But yeah.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

In our 20s. In our 20s. Yeah.

[B]

He's got a classic I'm in love with the stripper personality. Yeah.

[A]

Can we also dive into the logistics of taking home a bartender? A bartender.

[B]

I mean, how late do you got to be up?

[A]

Yeah, you. Like the bar closes at 2:30 and then, I mean I've, I've done some bartending work in my life. And you now have to wrap all the bottles, you have to sweep the floor, you got to clean the vomit out of the, out of the urinals. You got to put all the freaking chairs up.

[B]

The garbage out.

[A]

You got a mop. Yeah, you got to take the garbage out. I mean, if there's a Greek. If you're cooking food, it's a whole other ball game, but usually the kitchen takes care of that. You got to clean all the glasses, man. I mean, you're there till 3:34 in the morning, you know, and then you.

[B]

Got to go somewhere, which is. Yeah, depending on it could be before you're doing any hanky panky, it could be 5:30 in the morning.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's like at that point you might as well just go to breakfast.

[A]

And you're gonna probably go to breakfast. And you know, a lot, a lot of bartenders do get off of work and you know, you got your third shift guys and there's a third shift bar or there's a third shift breakfast spot.

[B]

You know, it's also kind of strange that like, imagine, imagine just like being an accountant and just always have someone trying to sleep with you as an accountant. Like, you're co. Like people just like coming into your cubicle and just being like, so what are you doing tonight? You know, that's their job. Yeah, they're just, they're, they're paying their bills by being there and just constantly having people trying to sleep with you. Yeah.

[D]

I totally agree with that. And that's that, that kind of universal rule. It's like, let's be respectful to our bartenders. But let me paint just a little bit more of a context of my picture. Oh, good to get some, get some specifics here.

[B]

So, yeah, so let's dive into your scenario here. Let's.

[D]

Yeah. So I'm in Fremont, Wisconsin, and there's a little bar called the Bus Stop. And it's a small town, local Ivy bar. And so it's the same. It's a very small community, particularly in the off season of tourism. And so you're seeing the same people and really peeling back this onion here. My first question to you guys is, let's say, and you know, you have had a bartender crush in your lifetime, I'm sure. But yeah.

[B]

Tracy for me.

[D]

Oh, nice. I love that. So how do you know she was.

[B]

Also a blackjack dealer?

[A]

She's the one.

[B]

Really? She's the one that got away.

[A]

Sorry that.

[B]

It'S also funny because she was like 10 years older than me, too.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Anyway, sorry, continue.

[D]

Yeah. So there's. I've had, you know, just I'm coming in on a regular basis now. It's a small little spot. And how do you know that the bartender actually likes you? What are some of the criteria or some of the things you think a bartender does? What did Tracy do that let you know that she may be into you or whoever that person was for you?

[B]

Well, let's. Before we do that, let's you. You tell us what the bartender's been doing to you, and we'll let you know if. If she's into you or just trying to get a bigger tip.

[D]

Right, right. And I knew you were going to ask that question.

[B]

Yeah. Let's do a game called Love or bigger tip.

[D]

Right. All right. So some of the standard things are I'll get bored, a heavy drink. So bigger tip, bigger tip. Every once in a while I'll get a free drink. Pretty new. Pretty new to the area. And so she's been super helpful to help me understand all the bar dice rul. And, you know, the sign in and all the standard, like, Wisconsin bar gambling things and. But.

[A]

Okay, pause right there.

[B]

Pause. So far, these are all pretty standard bartender moves.

[A]

Yeah. You have described not someone who is necessarily interested in you as much as you've described a good bartender, someone who's good at their job.

[B]

Someone's just running a good rail.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Right, right, right. So as we get more. I think we've established a friendship, so we talk a lot about music. I like to play the jukebox and so giving me opinions on music. So we're having a good conversation about that. I'll play some of her stuff that she requests and. But overall, I think there's just like this. There is an energy. I don't know how to describe it. There is a vibe. And I was watching the Packer game a couple weeks ago and. And we're having interaction at the bar. The bar is full, and these, this couple next to me, they're just like. They're reading that energy and they just straight out ask me, are you. Is that your girlfriend? Are you two dating? Oh, so something there. Something there.

[B]

Has she touched your leg yet?

[D]

No, because she's on the other side of the bar.

[B]

Oh, I know.

[D]

But yeah, now she's like, we. She's like touched my hand or like, has, you know.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

And how has she done it? Has she been like, I Wish this was FaceTime I want to touch Miles hand and see which way it was. I just want to make Miles uncomfortable, but I won't do it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So did she. Did she, like. Did she ever grab your hand, like, to. As an exclamation point?

[B]

That was it. Or was it kind of like. Like a. Yeah.

[A]

Did she slide it right off and linger on the thumb? Or did she grab it, like, as an exclamation point to a.

[B]

Or was it one of these? Or was it like.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, did she slap it? Like, is a playful slap play. How did she do it?

[D]

No, it was kind of like a grab and a hold. Like an emphasis of. Hey, I see you.

[B]

Oh, I see you.

[A]

Wait, what did you say to her to make her. Did you just tell her, like, someone close to you died or something?

[D]

I don't remember. I don't remember what I was saying. Because that's the other problem is you have two tree drinks, and all of a sudden you're like, yeah, your memory gets fuzzy. So.

[B]

Yeah, my memory doesn't get fuzzy after two drinks, but I can see how that can happen.

[D]

So I think, what. So what other things should I be looking out for? What would you add to that list? So you're talking about, like, physical touch. If she, like, reaches out and touches me in a.

[B]

You know, I'm guessing there's some tables in the bar, so she ends up on the other side of the bar and maybe, like, whips you with a towel. You know, it's kind of fun, playful.

[A]

Little thing, some little locker room play.

[B]

Like, I'm gonna hurt you.

[A]

No, no, I'm. It's not every locker room play, Miles. It's just fun, loving towel slaps.

[B]

Yeah, so that's a good sign, I think. I think you can tell a lot about love through the eyes.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Stop looking at me, Miles.

[B]

I. Oh, if it's kind of like.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Is she lingering on and making hard eye contact?

[B]

You know, if. If her head slightly turns away from you, but her eyes are still on you, you know, wow. Matters.

[A]

This went from uncomfortable to kind of erotic, kind of hot. Lord, Watch out, fellas. Belly up to this bar.

[B]

All right, so eye contact and how. How intense the eye contact can matter. Have you. Have you felt any locked on eyes?

[D]

Yes, absolutely. Yeah.

[B]

And I think in the business, we call that sending doomy eyes, you know, doomy eyes.

[A]

Yes. Is she sending doomy eyes?

[D]

But I. I'm gonna interpret that as yes. I'm gonna.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

That's a big deal. And also social proof is A big deal too, if other people are feeling the energy in the room.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, there's, you know, love is in the air.

[A]

No, can you feel.

[B]

Oh, you. That's what you need to start doing. You need to start putting romantic songs.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

All. All sex songs in movies start. Just do a. Do a run of that one night, you know, like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Can you feel the love tonight? Well, it starts between lions. Yeah. Cartoon lion. Sexy.

[A]

Yeah, Start soft. Start with the soft core.

[B]

Yeah. Soft cord, like necking, you know? You know, like in the movie, like them having sex is them just like rubbing their necks against each other.

[A]

Well, they were lions, dude. They're not going to show a full on Mufasa mounts there.

[B]

The Mufasa mountain. Spoiler alert. Mufasa was dead by then, Charlie.

[A]

Well, I mean, that's how we got Simba, who is obviously doing what his dad did. So you know, the Simba mount.

[B]

So maybe that. What's the song? What's the song in? It's an erotic scene in Top Gun.

[A]

Oh, yeah? What's that? Yeah.

[B]

Take my breath away.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, play that song. What other good ones are there? Maybe Play Pony. Do you know what song that is, Charlie? It's like the Magic Magic Mike song.

[A]

Yeah, I can't really. Oh, hang on, hang on. Miles, before you go on listening to songs, remember that she, the bartender, gave him some songs to play? Maybe there's a hint in the song.

[B]

What kind of songs you recommending?

[D]

Yeah, that's a good. I haven't thought about that. The. They're mostly bluegrass types of songs. Blues, blues songs. So nothing super romantic per se, but it's something that we've talked enough that we know we both will like. And, you know, it's a delicate balance because you're playing the jukebox, so you have to play something that the bar is gonna actually enjoy. But also it's. You're trying to communicate a message. So I really like this idea of a custom.

[B]

Yeah, I think what you should do is play Whop by Cardi B and just see what happens. I don't know if that's on a jukebox or not, but.

[A]

Oh, it's on a jukebox. It's on a jukebox.

[B]

The bluegrass version, though, right?

[D]

The bluegrass version. I'm sure that exists somewhere.

[A]

Yeah, that's. So she likes bluegrass, obviously.

[B]

Have you.

[A]

Have you asked her. Have you asked her, like, to. To an event outside of the bar?

[D]

Well, so that gets to this next part of my question. I'm unwrapping this onion here. So let's say you. You. You have that.

[A]

You pull back the layers of an onion, though you don't wrap it. But anyway, the.

[D]

So I'm in this little fantasy bubble right now. So I am going to the bar and I'm having a good time. I have a good conversation, a little bit of flirtation. This bartender is getting, you know, what she's needing or whatever that might be.

[B]

She's getting a happy tip is what you're saying.

[D]

I am. I'm being, you know, kind and being a good patron, you know, so if I ask her to something, you. You are bursting that bubble. You're right. You're. You're. You're. Do I. So the question is, is, do I stay in this little fantasy bubble or just. Just. It's nice and warm in here. It's great.

[B]

Well, we haven't discussed. Are you into her? Like, what's your feelings about the scenario?

[D]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, she. What I really appreciate about her and I think what this makes her such a good bartender is she just has a good soul. She's a very kind person, and that is just really attractive to me. And she has beautiful eyes, you know, She's a beautiful woman. So let's go. Yeah.

[A]

This is getting.

[B]

This is getting pretty hot.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Can we.

[A]

Can we play a little.

[B]

It's a little early in the day.

[A]

I know. I didn't know we were writing erotic novels here on the Belly dub podcast, but go on. So I like that you're really hitting the emotional chords here, too. You know, we don't even know what she looks like physically and.

[B]

But you're right, she is hot.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yes. Thank you. So, yeah, first thing. That bubble.

[A]

But.

[D]

So I would, you know, ask for her number or out to a bluegrass events. A great idea. Charlie. The. So I guess my last question here in this kind of thing is how do you ask. So you say that you are going to ask, how do you ask a bartender for their number without being creepy?

[A]

Well, without it first. You. I. Here's. Here's one way to play Miles. I'll give him one way to play it. You can give them another way to play it. Here's what I would do. She's a bluegrass fan, right? What's her favorite bluegrass band?

[D]

Oh, I can't say. She's. I think she just rattles off a dozen bands. She's a big, like, festival person.

[A]

Okay. Well, you should start by listening a little closer. But.

[B]

You find out her eyes are up There. Yeah, yeah, so.

[D]

Right, right.

[A]

Yeah, there is. There is. There are words coming out of her mouth.

[B]

She has a mouth, by the way.

[A]

Yeah. Mouse down here. Okay, so what you want to do is listen to what her favorite bluegrass bands are, see, when they're coming through Wisconsin. My buddy Adam is in horseshoes and hand grenades. They play a lot of the festivals around here. I could probably. Probably get you some tickets to that.

[B]

Oh, yeah, well, backstage.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Side stage, even, maybe.

[A]

Yeah, I bet Adam would do that for me. I'm not sure. I'd have to ask him real nice. But I bet, you know, if you found out who her favorite bluegrass band was and you. You. You got a couple tickets and you just gave them to her and said, hey, I got. I got two extra tickets.

[B]

Oh, this is smart. Then make her invite him back.

[A]

Yeah, I got two extra tickets to this show, you know, Or I. Or I got two tickets as a show. You could just give them to her. That might be giving a mixed single signal, though. Like, maybe you're not interested. Or you get three tickets and you say, hey, I got. Yeah, start off like. Like a group date. You know, when your parents are, like, in high school and they're like, you're not going out on a date with a girl. You get her pregnant. You gotta go on a group date, all right? You get other people there, so you guys can't sneak off and get pregnant. You know what I'm saying? So do that. Do that mentality.

[B]

This is the Charlie Barron's thing ever. Hey, ask her on a date, but make sure other people are there.

[A]

Yeah, well, it's a concert. Other people are gonna be there. Maybe. Maybe get. Maybe get four tick. I don't know what I'm saying. You. I. I feel like you don't.

[D]

Great idea.

[A]

Yeah. You get three tickets. You're like, bring a friend. It's me and your two friends.

[B]

That's. That's worse. Dude, don't do. Do not do that. This guy was divorced once. All right, so let's.

[D]

Yeah, I like the idea, Charlie. Give. Give a ticket and just say, hey, I'm going to the show. I happen to have an extra ticket. Use it or not.

[C]

And.

[B]

And then she says. Yeah, she says she can't go. And then you're like, ah, I don't want to go to this concert.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, then sell them again. But, you know, I like that idea, Charlie. And make it far enough out in advance that she can't be like, I have to work. Because that way, if she straight up Denies you with it, you'll know she's probably not feeling it. She'll think it's sweet, though, and it's a friend. It's a friendly move because you don't know if your friends or not. You don't want to creep her out. You want to maintain your bar. So just a nice gift, a nice gesture, something thoughtful that means you listen to her and. And whatnot. I don't. I think that's. That's my advice. Miles, how about you?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, that's. That's definitely the. The more work approach. No, it's. It's a good approach. I like it.

[A]

What's the lesson?

[B]

Trying to get more to the point with. Because, like, it is like asking her to a concert. There's like, is this a date? Is it not? Type of vibe. So if it. If she isn't into you and you do got. You guys do go to the concert, it's still not weird later. So I do like that a lot, but. Because every other scenario of asking for a number or something comes off as like, I'm into you. And if she's. If she's not wanting that, then you're right. The bubble is burst.

[A]

And then you lose not just the bartender, but your bar, you know?

[D]

Right. There's three bars in this town. Yeah. The bus. The bus stop is just. It's a classic. Wonderful town, town bar. I don't want. Whatever happens, I want to keep going to this spot. So you're right. This is kind of a delicate balance that. I don't want to mess that up.

[B]

No, I think you. There's a way you could do it for not messing it up is like, get her number in like a friend way, you know, if it's like something like a common thing you guys have talked about being like. You know what I mean?

[A]

Oh, yeah, Like. Like, you know, she likes this band. And so you find like an article on the band, you're like, oh, my gosh, I just read this great article on this band. Here, I'll send it to you. What's your number?

[D]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And then you got the number. And then you. Over weeks time, you. You touch in outside of the bar, you know, like, maybe you're at the record store, you know, looking for some vinyl. You see one of her favorite bluegrass bands there at the vinyl store. You send her a photo of it, say, hey, you want me to pick this up for you? Or you won't believe what I saw at the record store.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All of a sudden there's a touch point.

[A]

Y.

[B]

Just keep touching in until the point and then you'll get the vibe of how long the conversation. She sends you one text back or does what my dad does and just sends a thumbs up.

[A]

Yeah. Then you know, then you know what, Miles? I like what you're saying. Like, like touch points, you know, like, like when you're like, you know, when you, when you're. When you're using like wood glue, right? Do you just do one line or do you do like a. A little. A bunch of like, do you. Do you do it like this? You know, so you got more surface area.

[B]

Touching area.

[A]

Yeah, you're not line. That's gonna rip off pretty quick there. You gotta. You gotta just. And then you'll find out and what you'll develop right there is a. Is a friendship, you know, and perhaps in doing this friendship, you realize that you like her more or that you're not that into her, you know, so. And yeah, and yeah, and I think she'll respect it because, you know, you're. You're going. You seem like a guy who's going for the full person, not just like a one night thing. And I guarantee everyone else in that bar is not everyone else, but enough people are going for that one night thing. So I think you're standing out by being genuine and going after that beautiful soul behind those eyes.

[D]

That's right.

[B]

And I think that that's two approaches, Charlie. And I think the last approach is it needs to be. It was the heat of the moment. So you need to wait. You need to wait until. Well, the doomy eyes from you and her are at its strongest where you can just cut it with a butter knife. The sexual tension in the room. And then you just need to just. Probably just be like, hey, do you want to get dinner this week?

[A]

I will bring in a fourth approach because at one point, Miles, I had a thing for a bartender.

[B]

Why are you taking so long to talk about this? I shared my feelings about Tracy.

[A]

Yeah, I know. Well, I kind of said what to do. But, you know, anyways, I. I stayed. I asked if she needed help after. She needed help cleaning up, and I helped clean up after.

[B]

And that worked?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, well, there you go.

[A]

So that, that's actually.

[B]

Yeah, that's actually maybe the best approach.

[A]

Yeah, it's a very Midwest way. Especially in a small town bar. You know, just. Just keep asking. Go there asking like you gu. Any tp I'm. I'm over at, you know, I got. My mom's got A Costco membership. And I'll get, I'll get you guys.

[B]

You know, you have a Costco membership. Your mom does.

[A]

I don't have, My mom does have one, but yeah, you know, just, just see what the bar needs. What's making her life, you know, better? Is her dice cup in good shape? You know, do you have a better broken in one? A good dice cups, like a baseball mitt, you know, you don't want like a fresh one off the deal, but you want a little bit of. But you don't want.

[B]

Yeah, let's, let's not over complicate it. Just ask her like towards the end of the night she'd be like, hey, do you my help, you know, closing up tonight? And then just see, because if she says no, then it's like, oh, you were just being nice, right?

[A]

And yeah, no harm, no foul. And, and that to ask if you need help, it's very Midwest thing, you know, like, like I, you know, you ask your neighbor if they need their gutters clean, if you see stuff growing out of it, you know, so.

[B]

It'S.

[A]

Very low, low risk because if she says no, you're still friends. Which is basically essentially what Miles just said. But I said it in like way more words.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, I appreciate this. You know, I have to say I've listened to the podcast for a while in a lot of time. You guys talk shit. But this was actually like, this is not bad. This is a good idea.

[B]

Is. Yeah, he's shocked with we need to podcast at 9:00am I know.

[A]

Yeah, you got us with our coffee, not our cocktail. Yeah, I mean, we're drinking both right now, but.

[D]

Nice. Where are you guys at?

[A]

Well, we're bellied up to the home bar from episode one.

[B]

I got a bar in our office and we're bellied up to the bar we made in episode one.

[A]

So we figured that for episode 197 we'd do something special and go back to the, you know.

[B]

No, this is, this is a result of Charlie's hectic schedule here.

[A]

Yeah, I, I, I gotta, I gotta go to Florida for my tour, which you can get [e-mail] I'm on tour right now. We'll see you guys out there. Would you like that plug? Do you like that? That was pretty nice and organic. It was, yeah.

[B]

Yeah, dude. Well, so we kind of gave you four or five approaches here. Which one do you think you're gonna start with?

[D]

I like the music playlist idea. So I think I'm gonna start with that. That feels. Because we're already talking about music.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, so you mean on the jukebox? Are you gonna play jukebox? Okay.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Let's go.

[B]

Yeah. I thought that was a long shot, but there we go.

[D]

It just seems like so subtle. And I'm already. I'm already doing that behavior, so I don't think it'll be out of. I'll just start sliding in some.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

I just gotta pick up some sexy.

[B]

Songs, movie sex scene songs.

[D]

I'm not doing. I'm not doing Lion King. I ve. Lion King.

[B]

But is it El John that sings that song? I mean, that.

[A]

That song's erotic, dude. And if you watch like the intensity.

[B]

What's happening?

[D]

What?

[B]

They don't have a clue.

[C]

Who.

[D]

You. You. You both need to open a karaoke bar.

[A]

Yeah, that might be Ditch chickens. I. The ditch chicken is going to be the name of our bar. And yeah, we'll have a karaoke section. We'll have a strobe light. Or not strobe light. A disco ball.

[B]

Strobe light. It's a small town bar with a strobe light is the strangest.

[A]

A disco ball. A disco ball is just fun to have. You know, you don't need it for karaoke, but it really brings the room together. It's like a rug. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. All right, cool. We're excited for you. We. We. We would love to get a bellied update from. You know how it went.

[A]

Yes, please call us back.

[D]

Yeah, that sounds great. That sounds great. I will decide if I'm gonna pop this bubble and not be creepy and figure out what I'm gonna do here. So I do appreciate talk with you guys today and your advice.

[A]

Ask her if she likes the band Horseshoes and hand grenades.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure she does. I do.

[A]

Oh, you like horseshoes. Nice.

[D]

Yeah, I'm a big bluegrass fan myself.

[A]

Oh, you are? Well, how do you not remember the.

[D]

Part of our connection?

[A]

How do you now remember the bluegrass bands she told you she liked?

[D]

Well, because there's a thousand bluegrass bands.

[A]

In the midwest, so. Well, start writing them down.

[D]

You're right. I need to be improve my listening skills, apparently so. Yeah.

[A]

All right, well, I get that. I ignore half the stuff Miles says and it shows.

[B]

Yeah, I know how the bartender feels. All right, dude. Well, we appreciate you calling in today. We're excited. You who definitely want to get a bellied update to how it went and. Yeah, you have a good day, dude.

[D]

Appreciate you both. Thanks a lot.

[A]

All right, be good now.

[B]

What's that say about us, Charlie? That he called in and we gave some pretty solid advice and he was shocked?

[A]

I mean, it says that like it says, Miles, that, you know, sometimes we just get a little. A little rambunctious here. You know, we just. We just. We're using our outdoor voices a little too much on this podcast. We're just doing too much.

[B]

And I think. I think his rich, timber, soft, nice voice kind of disarmed us. Like, what, are we gonna start talking to that guy? Yeah, Derek.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He sounds like such a nice guy.

[A]

Sweetheart, man, you know?

[B]

Know, but when, you know, guy comes in blazing hot, you know, we gotta match the energy.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Good. Good guy. I hope it works out for him. This is like. This is like the premise of a. Of a Midwest rom com.

[A]

It really is. Honestly, I feel like this is good. Like. Like it. Like, I like the serialized nature of this phone call because I feel like we could, like. Do you understand, Miles? This is my vision for Eric right now in this bartender. I'm feeling the connection and the way he's talking to her. I think it is a true thing. And I think, like, babies could be started by this podcast. And that just makes me feel so good, you know, Just that we're putting this energy out into this world, you know? Yeah, sure, Jared.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You guys are both looking at me like, being silly goose, but it's a.

[B]

Weird way to say, like, you're jacked because you're helping people get in la. Laid, you know?

[A]

Yeah, I mean, you know, but not just glade. I'm talking about souls fornicating, man. It's a different kind of thing, Miles. So.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, you did tell him that he should do the. The Mufasa mount, but.

[A]

Well, I mean, but that doesn't mean that Mufasa is not like, just, you know, it's not just a hard thing there. I mean, lions, they. They. They make love in. In sort of a different. You know, it's. It's hard to get that lion deal into that other lion deal, so they gotta, like. It looks a little aggressive, but it's. It's. It's with love.

[B]

It's like doggy style, but lion style.

[A]

Lion style, you know, and those claws gotta go somewhere. Okay, so, I mean, you can't change the anatomy of a lion yet. It still needs to reproduce. And what the are you saying? What do you mean, what the am I saying? Go watch.

[B]

Are you breaking down lion sex right now? For us?

[A]

You.

[B]

I think we got it.

[A]

Well, if you Got it. And why'd you ask?

[B]

Well, should we take another caller?

[A]

Let's do it.

[B]

Dude.

[A]

Miles, Deer camp is here, man. You know, and the thing about Deer Camp is you got drive to deer camp camp and on the way to deer camp, boy, you better watch out for deer, you know, like, because if you don't, you're in a wreck. And now all of a sudden, what do you do?

[B]

You call Nicolay Law.

[A]

Call Nicolay Law Nicolay. If you've been injured, he is there to. To get you by Nicolay Law.

[B]

Because it's one thing, you know, to get injured on the way to Deer camp. And it's like, don't add insult to injury here. No, make sure you call and then you can have that peace of mind so that maybe you could still get in that deer stand that weekend and know that Nicolay Law is going to be taken care of.

[A]

Yes, don't add insult to injury. Add compliment to injury. And boy, that is a nice beard, isn't it, Miles?

[B]

It really is.

[A]

Nicolay law.com.

[B]

Charlie, it's fall. And you know what fall means.

[A]

Hoodies.

[B]

Hoodies. And pumpkin spice lattes. You know, everyone's drinking that pumpkin stuff stuff. Pumpkin spice stuff. Not us.

[A]

No, I'm not.

[B]

No, not us. You know, we are drinking a little Tippy Cow chocolate shake.

[A]

Tipping on. Back to the Tippy Cow. You know, I want to find a coffee shop that serves this because I've been putting this in my coffee from time to time. Miles, a little after dinner, decaf coffee with a little Tippy Cow. That way it doesn't keep me up, but it keeps me going. You know what I mean?

[B]

That's right. And Tippy Couch, especially the chocolate shake. Kind of a chocolate milk type vibe.

[A]

It is chocolate milk.

[B]

Love a good chocolate milk on a fall day. And chocolate. The chocolate shake is smooth, satisfying, and a perfect companion for any fall activities.

[A]

Miles, you're a perfect companion for me. Hey, it's nice that. Oh, God, that's my leg. It's nice that we could.

[B]

And Charlie, you bet you that Tippy Cow is made with real Wisconsin cream.

[A]

Oh, sure is.

[B]

Hey, speaking of, comes in a 750mil liter bottle, so it's perfect for sharing, which we're about to do right now. Bring it to the tailgate or the bonfire to that. Milk it for all it's worth.

[A]

I like what you did there, M.

[B]

Go on, Charlie, and have a cow.

[A]

Cheers.

[B]

Cheers.

[A]

Oh, you're real good at that.

[B]

Drink responsibly. Tippy Cow rum cream. Copyright 2025 Midwest Custom Bottling Pocket, Wisconsin. All rights reserved.

[A]

Hello, Ava.

[C]

Hey, Charlie.

[A]

How you doing?

[C]

Good. How are you?

[A]

Well, I'm good. I'm here with my buddy Miles.

[C]

Miles, how we doing?

[A]

Good.

[B]

How are you?

[A]

Do you hear that?

[B]

Tonal shift between Charlie is like, hi, Charlie. What's going on, Miles? I get it. I get it. I'm aware.

[C]

No, no, no.

[B]

I mean, I've said it before. I said it a million times. We and Charlie were drunk at a bar in Green Bay, and Charlie had gals hitting on him left, and I had sweaty guys hitting on me left and right. It's the way the world works.

[A]

That was. They weren't hitting on you, Miles. They were asking you if you needed to go to a hospital after that edible you took.

[C]

Lord.

[A]

Miles was okay, I thought.

[B]

Yeah, they were doing cpr. I guess they weren't trying to make out with me.

[C]

You never know.

[A]

Stadium View bar in Green Bay, New Year's Eve, 20. I don't know what. But they had these, like, Delta 8 edibles, which. God only knows what's in them. They were. I think they were selling them in the bar. But I was like, hey, Miles, I got this. You want it? And I was like, I wouldn't eat the whole thing. And it was gone. He ate the whole thing.

[B]

So that was the night after that. That was the night that changed my life. That was.

[A]

That was the night, Miles. I mean, that was the night you started working out intensely. And that's the reason that.

[B]

The catalyst for the whole weight loss scenario. Yeah.

[A]

It's not. It's not Ozempic. It's a Green Bay edible.

[B]

Yeah. One Packer game will do the trick. That's.

[C]

There you go.

[B]

One Packer game is worth a thousand Ozempics.

[A]

One pack.

[C]

Probably cheaper, too.

[B]

It's like, wow, those stadium beers cost a lot. So I don't know.

[A]

No, forget the keto diet. It's the packers versus Vikings.

[B]

Well, just hang out with Charlie Barrons and you're good.

[A]

So, enough about us. Ava, what's up with you?

[C]

Oh, not much. I'm actually up here in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin, in my childhood home. Yeah, I came up here back in September for a fishing trip. Trip. And I haven't left yet.

[A]

Yeah. So nice.

[B]

How is that. How are you even able to do that?

[C]

Well, so we still have our child or my childhood home, and we Airbnb it, and I've just been staying here. And also, it helps when you don't have a job yet, so.

[A]

Okay, so did you just graduate?

[C]

I did, yeah. I just graduated with my master's in business management from EU Business School. School in Barcelona.

[A]

Okay, nice. Congratulations.

[B]

Now, I don't want to be the burster of a bubble here, but are you a little regretting that decision, Going for a master's considering you haven't found a job yet?

[C]

Well, I've actually turned down a couple of jobs, so.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

It's. It's mainly just me trying to figure out exactly what I want to go into before I, you know, take the. The step in and then get sucked in into something I can't get out of. So I've been applying to a lot of different stuff and, you know, get answers back and go through the process of the interviewing, and some of them I actually have gotten all the way through, and I just, you know, say to myself, is this what I really want to do? So maybe it's me. Maybe I have a problem.

[B]

Well, what do you really want to do?

[C]

Well, right now I've been, like, applying for medical sales positions, so, like, pharmaceutical or medical devices, and I was also looking into business development for clinical research companies and other stuff. I'm trying to stay in the medical field or the biology field, because that's what I got my undergrad in, but we'll see.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Well, that. That is really cool. Now, how is your. Your dad, your mom? How do they feel about you turning down the jobs in the meantime?

[C]

Actually, they, like. They don't mind, to be honest. I'm staying with them, and I think they more just missed me a lot because I was gone for over a year in Spain, so they're like, you know what? We'll figure it out. And they also don't want me to really rush into anything if it's. If it's not something, you know, worth doing. Yeah.

[B]

So your parents are enablers.

[A]

See what's going on here? Yeah, because, you know, there's that one. There's that one Midwest dad where if he heard you turn down his job, he'd be like, you turned it down, huh? Well, you. You don't like money, huh? I wouldn't need your ass out of my room yesterday. All right, you go back to them. You tell them you're sorry, all right? What's your name?

[B]

Yeah, you got to start paying rent. If you're going to be here, you got to start paying rent.

[A]

You think you're going to turn down jobs on my watch? Okay, you get over to that Denny's, you start flipping some freaking pancakes because these lights don't pay for themselves. You understand what I'm talking about?

[B]

And also get out there and mow the goddamn lawn.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Hey, they still have me doing that, so.

[A]

Well, there you go.

[B]

That's why they want you around.

[C]

Yeah, I do all the heavy lifting in here.

[A]

There you go. No, I'm sure. I'm sure it's good and it's nice your parents get a little extra time with you, and, you know, life goes by fast. It's. It's good to enjoy. It is. Is the truth of it, you know?

[B]

Nothing.

[C]

I'm lucky, I guess.

[A]

Life does go by fast, Mom. Oh, it's a nothing statement, Miles. Okay.

[B]

Yeah, life's long, so you might as well just live it.

[A]

Yeah, well, you know that some would say that's good advice, Miles. Not that. That's a not. And some might say, oh, that's pretty profound. And I'll tell you that, Miles, because I'm a good friend. That's pretty profound.

[B]

You can find that on, like, every Hallmark card.

[A]

No, not every Hallmark card, Miles.

[C]

Just most.

[A]

Okay. Aa. Who's. God damn it. Whose side are you on? Ava, get your ass out there. Get a job, for crepe's sakes. You've been home long enough. Barcelona, Como ad say get a freaking job.

[B]

You have to cut him some slack. He just quit nicotine.

[A]

Seven days. Yeah, I did. I am in a different freaking world. Ava, you got an upper deckian right now. How is it.

[C]

You do?

[A]

No, I wish.

[B]

Well, Ava, why did you actually call in today?

[C]

So the reason I called in today day was because, you know, since the dawn of time, you have the men go and do deer hunting every year, and the women stay home. Or actually, in my household, when I was younger, my mom and I would actually go on a little girls trip. But every year, my dad and my brother and most of the Midwest go deer hunting. And I've always wanted to go.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Now, the problem is because I'm. I like. I'm a girls girl, but I'm also a tomboy a little bit.

[B]

Uhhuh.

[C]

And I like to do fishing. I like to hunt, I like shooting. And, you know, I. I like a.

[B]

True good Midwest gal. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, Exactly. Exactly. And I've always wanted to go. Now, that being said, I've had a lot of people that go in the group with my dad and brother say, oh, my gosh, yes, you should totally come. They've seen me shoot, too. And like, hell yeah. Like, get on out here. Have dad bring you. You have Grant bring you and I'm like, yes, yes, for sure. And I'll bring it up to my dad. And it's just kind of like a. Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah. You know, yeah, okay.

[B]

Yeah, let's.

[C]

You could totally come this year. Sure. And then I never actually. It's never like, okay, yeah, you're coming. Let's buy the tickets. Let's get you the license. Let's do all this jazz. It's kind of like, yeah, maybe let's. Yeah, we'll pull under that.

[B]

No, I mean, yeah, it's way easier.

[A]

This year, though, because there's no tickets to buy. You don't need to buy a flight home for this. You're already there and there. So there. There's no excuse this year.

[B]

So, Charlie, let's put. Let's put ourselves in her father's shoes.

[A]

Oh, I already know what he's thinking.

[B]

You know, it's like, we already, as men now have to go to baby showers. You know, like, when did that start happening? Why did all of a sudden they start becoming men and women go to baby showers?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, and now guys can't just do guys trip going hunting anymore. I'm not saying this is right. I'm saying this is what your dad's thinking.

[A]

You know, Miles, let's be honest. You're using this as a vehicle to just say you're thinking.

[B]

Well, it's like, would my wife love it if I was like, hey, I'm gonna come with. To your yoga class and hang out with you and your friends?

[A]

Honestly, probably.

[B]

No, there's no way.

[A]

Really? I don't know.

[B]

She would. I've never. I've never asked that.

[A]

Let me give Anna call right now. I just put this to the test.

[B]

You know, it's like. It's like, why guys are, like, love going golfing with their buddies. It's like their time to. To. To just. Guys are primal creatures, and they need that time to. They need that locker room vibe, you know, they need that just guys being dude scenario, and that's hunting and golfing and stuff like that. And, like, the way that they get that male bonding time. Now, I'm not saying it's necessarily right, and you should be able to go hunting with your family, but I'm saying that's probably what's on.

[A]

Going.

[B]

Going on.

[C]

Okay, see, I get that, and I get that that's like a time for them to, like, bond and all that, but there is a woman that already goes up there with them.

[B]

Is her name Marge, though?

[A]

Is.

[B]

Is her name Pat? Is her name Helga? Is her name Madge? You know, is it one of those.

[C]

My cousin.

[A]

Your cousin?

[C]

Yes. Her name's Megan. So a bit close on that, probably.

[B]

Meg.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Have you ever watched Family Guy? Meg, you know.

[C]

Yeah. So the thing is, now she's a bit older than me and she like brings her son, so they. And my uncle, which is her dad, also goes too. So she's been invited for these past couple of years. Five. Five. Maybe a little bit more. Seven years or so.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And so that's what I don't get, dude, is like, why is she. Why she gets the invite and I'm left out here to drive.

[A]

Well, listen, it's. It's not. You gotta thank Meg, because Meg, you don't know it yet, but she's like your Susan B. Anthony of Dear Camp.

[B]

She is.

[A]

She has opened the door that this is no longer just a guy's thing. And that has lasted in this family for decades and decades and decades and just hasn't been questioned because it's what been done. But Meg broke the frickin Broke. Broke the. The wood panel ceiling. And now it is just. It's a she. I guarantee you when Meg went up there too, she took the little sticky fly things hanging from the ceil down and it's just a new world up there. So I think you can go. I honestly, my hunch is this is the year you're going to get to go because there's no excuse of not needing to buy a ticket. There's no excuse of you're not. You have to work or anything like that. I mean, I think you're going this year whether your dad likes it or not. You just stay on his ass about it.

[B]

Well, and I think you got to start like helping yourself out here though, you know? Know you got to start. You know, what do guys like, you gotta. When. When you're talking about deer on. You got to start making some funny rack jokes. You know what I mean? Yeah, you gotta start whipping out some locker room talk to know that you can hang with the guys, you know?

[C]

See, and that's where I had trouble the. The other weekend we had this whole fishing trip, which I thought I was technically invited to, but I guess some people of the group didn't realize that I was gonna be there.

[A]

Oh, what happened there, man?

[C]

Oh, just a lot of like, you can't be doing that. That's too girly or stuff like that. And I was like, okay, let me like fix my mind frame and try to act more Like a guy. And I don't know. I guess I didn't really know what to say or. I mean, I'm. I'm the tomboy. Like, I like to do all these activities and it's not like I'm not drinking beer and, you know, playing music loud and all that other stuff, but it's kind of like a lot of comments of like, no, you couldn't be doing that. You're. That's too girly. What are you doing? I'm like, let's drink bloodies. It's nine. And they're like, what? I'm like, what do you want to drink? Mimosas or something? Like I said, I didn't think Bloody Mary's was a girly drink or anything, but even so. So anyway, this weekend was like.

[B]

I wouldn't say that it is.

[A]

Yeah. I think. I think maybe you're. You're adding some fresh blood into the fishing trip. I mean, the way you're sounding here.

[B]

Here's what it's. Here's what I think is probably going on. You. You see yourself as somewhat of a tomboy, but what they say, see is some fancy college grad who just came hot off the press from Europe, you know? What were you getting fancy cappuccinos over there? What were you doing eating. Eating oysters and. And French bread at 11pm you know, what were you doing over there? That's what they see.

[A]

Yeah, you. You guys stop calling it Barcelona, okay?

[B]

There's got to be like a Barcelona, like Wisconsin or Illinois or something. Just say that's where you did it, where you did your college.

[C]

Yeah, true.

[B]

Yeah. Like, where would there's a Paris, Iowa, or something like that, you know?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly.

[B]

Barcelona, Indiana.

[A]

Yes, yes. Still met. You were. So I guess.

[C]

How do I fix this then? How do I like one?

[B]

I think you're. I think you're gonna have to start chewing. I think you're gonna have to start dipping. Oh, that sounds so good.

[C]

Getting Charlie gone.

[B]

Because then they could be like, sorry. Because then they can be like, oh, wow, I didn't know she was chill like that.

[C]

Okay. Okay, so this is a real commitment. I really gotta step.

[B]

Need to get addicted to chewing tobacco, first off. Secondly, you gotta start upping your alcohol tolerance and you need to really start drinking people under table because there's nothing will disarm a guy more than being like, oh, God, that that gal can drink me under the table. Like, I got respect for her.

[A]

True.

[B]

You know it's true.

[C]

All right.

[A]

I mean, you could jeopardize your whole future, but it, it's worth it being that.

[B]

What, what other ways can she fit in with the guys?

[A]

Well, I, I, I'll give, I'll give a few more sack taps, you know.

[B]

Like locker room stuff.

[A]

Yeah, some sack tap, some ass at back ass patch, you know. Are you related to all the fellas here?

[C]

A good chunk of them, I would say.

[A]

Is there any?

[B]

Maybe don't sack tap your set.

[C]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

[A]

Is there?

[C]

I don't know if I want to sa. Backpack my uncle.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, he'd respect it. Make no doubt he'd respect it. You go up there, just, just fake the sack tap. Just give him a little pump fake. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You won't be expecting it.

[B]

Charlie does that to me on these bellied up stuff trips. Like he does that to me like once a day. Yeah, he pump fakes.

[A]

I had a little pump fake sack tap. Gotta keep him on his toes, you know?

[C]

Nice.

[A]

And you know, I, I, I think the real thing is, is just say like you walk in, say, hey, I'll take the couch, you know, you okay, you, you. Because also, it's a sneak move. You don't want to be sleeping in the bunk beds anyway. It's part city in there. So give yourself, give yourself a little peace of mind. Yes, the couch is going to smell like a fart, but it's not going to be an active fart. Okay. It's only going to smell like it when you warm it up with your body, body heat.

[B]

So another thing too to think about, you start adding more people into the mix. You know, there's only so much land and only so many places to put up deer stands, and there's only so many deer that are going to walk through at any given time. So then they're also thinking that there's another person that could be taking their trophy buck.

[A]

Yeah. Just adding any fresh body into a deer camp comes with some questions because. Okay, yeah, more, less sleeping room, less food on the plate. And again, more, just another, more sound in the woods, you know, new smells in the woods, you know. Yeah, all those things come into play. But I, you know, is there anyone in deer camp that you're not related to that like you can kind of like get some insight from, you know, that's not going to rat you out, can get someone on the. Because what you need to do is find an ally in there. You got to break the through and you guys start Fracturing the deer camp and get some of them onto your side. You know, you got divide and conquer this deer camp, and that best works with bribery. Unfortunately, you don't have a job, so.

[C]

Yeah, there goes all my money.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But I would say. I would say so. And I mean, like I was saying before, like, a couple of my uncles are like, hell yeah, come on up. Like, great show shot. Like, fun. Like, more fun. More fun. But like you said, I mean, I could definitely find someone to start planting some seed and, you know, getting them on my side, turning them over.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, what in your mind, if you really had to just cut through all the bull crap, what do you think is the main reason why your. Your dad and brother don't want you to come?

[C]

I think it's probably the bonding thing. I think it's because it's so sacred.

[B]

That I don't want to mess with the mojo.

[C]

Since my brother was very little, you know, he's been taking them up there, and I've been staying and spending time with my mom. So I think it's his. His chance to just relax and not be around me or my mom and spend time with my brother. Grant.

[B]

Yeah. So your. Your. Your brother's got daddy issues. Maybe that's the angle. Just start gaslighting your brother. Just start telling them that, like, wow, I see you got some daddy issues. You can't hang out. You can't let me hang out with them. Why? Wow.

[A]

Yeah. How old are we? Dude, we're. We're in our 20s now.

[B]

Does dad need to help you field dress your deer? Oh, that's so cute. A. Does he need to help you sight in your rifle? Your wife. Your. Your widow wife?

[A]

Too quick that way. Too quick that way.

[C]

Yeah. Do you need him to bring you some snacks?

[A]

There you go. There you go.

[B]

Oh, yeah, just start. Yeah, just start ripping into your dad and brother. Be like, oh, like, clearly, he's still on the teat, but the male teat, which doesn't make any sense to be useless.

[A]

He's on the meat.

[B]

Can't even get any milk out of that teat.

[A]

Yeah, you get a few good ribbons in there, Ava there. Your dad's gonna think you're the. You're the son of the. Yeah, you gotta.

[B]

You gotta take the alpha dog st Status.

[A]

Okay, let's hear the bar. Ka.

[C]

Oh, no.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

That's a dog. Yeah. All right, good.

[C]

Huh? All right, what you're stepping in.

[A]

If that don't work, that don't work. You. You shoot bow no. Okay, go. Go get a bow. Start doing that because you got bow season. Because there's. Look, we're giving you our best advice. There's a good chance it's never going to work out for you, but if you start. If you get a bow and you start going bow season, you know, I mean, that's. The season starts earlier. You can get a bigger buck, and. And then that's something that your brother can't do. And also, I think it's a harder way to shoot a deer, and you might get some points. You might kind of like, get elevated. The deer camp, if you're starting to get bucks during bows season, you know?

[C]

Okay, see, we don't have bow season down in Florida.

[A]

Oh, you're in Florida. Go hunt an alligator then. Jeez. Yeah, go hunt a boa constriction Constrict. You know what I'm trying to say?

[B]

He's a week off of nicotine. Comes.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah. I can't talk. Damn. Oh, fl. We're in Florida.

[B]

I, I. You could have told me that she was in Wisconsin this whole time.

[A]

Yeah, I know. And now the bar.

[C]

I mean, I am in Wisconsin.

[A]

Yeah, she's. Dude, she's in.

[B]

Wait, you guys go to Florida to hunt deer?

[C]

No, no, I live in Florida.

[A]

No, you.

[C]

I'm up here in Wisconsin.

[B]

Got it. Got it.

[C]

We all live in Florida, but we have a house up here, like my, My childhood home. I told you. And we still have it. So we came up here, and I just don't have a job, so I didn't buy a ticket home. Home. Well, now I do have a ticket home, but, God, it's not for a couple of weeks.

[A]

Deer camps in Florida, though.

[B]

No, they live in Florida. Deer camps in Wisconsin.

[A]

Well, same. Okay, okay, I get it. I get it. Okay. Stay in Wisconsin. Start bow hunting in Wisconsin. Whatever.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I got so confused, Charlie.

[B]

I want to do one more thing. I want to see if she can hang with the guys. A deer camp. So you and I, you be her dad, I'll be your brother.

[A]

All right?

[B]

And we're, you know, this is like the night before. We're, like, going out to the deer camp, and we're just sitting around, you know, I'm scratching my nuts right now, you know. Hey, you want to grab me another beer? You want to grab me another beer? Yeah. Okay. Sis, relax. I know you're kind of a lightweight. Hey, Dad, I was at the. The bus stop.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, the bar in town the other day, and the bartender was hurried up the bartender was totally sending me doomy vibes. Right?

[C]

Yeah, you wish. You wish, Grant.

[A]

Tell her.

[C]

Tell her.

[A]

Yeah, tell her this son of mine's a Sally. A tell you.

[B]

Dad. Dad, she's being mean to me.

[A]

Do you think he's got daddy issues, Ava? Huh?

[C]

Oh, hell yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Big Sally over here.

[B]

Hey. Hey. I. No, I. I don't.

[A]

Yeah, well, tell us about that bartender, Grant.

[B]

Well, she. She's. Yeah, she. She's hot.

[A]

I'll grant you, she didn't have a damn interest in you. Listen to your sister, all right?

[B]

I've been here for how many?

[A]

Why don't you go get both of us a beer? How does that sound? Hustle your ass.

[C]

Yeah. I'm thirsty over here. God damn it.

[B]

You know what, Eva?

[A]

I was thinking, should we do beer, or what do you think about Bloody Marys?

[B]

Dad.

[A]

What? Shut the hell up. You think for woodsies? Ava changed my mind. She got me drinking at 9 in the morning. I'm seven sheets to the wind.

[C]

Oh, yeah, you can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning.

[B]

Shut up, Ava.

[A]

Grant, why are you still here?

[B]

Suck my dick. You had to show up and ruin this whole thing? Why don't you go back to Barcelona and eat your cappuccinos?

[C]

Did you just fly back to Florida, Grant?

[A]

Did you just tell your sister what I think you just told your sister? I don't know what you think this family is, but we are not. Daddy, get the hell out of here.

[B]

We're on the same team here.

[A]

Yeah, we were on the team. But before you miss that buck this morning, what the hell was going on there? You're lucky I don't pull that beer out of your hand. You can't. You seeing two deer shooting for the mill. One you miss, God damn it.

[B]

But, Daddy.

[A]

Don't Daddy me right now. Oh, God.

[B]

What kind of family are you in? Your brother's telling you to suck his dick, and now your brother's hooking up with his dad. Your brother. Dad, what the hell's going on?

[C]

Oh, God. This is. This did not go as well as planned.

[B]

Yeah, see, you kind of felt like the bullets were flying there, weren't you? Yeah, that's what it's going to be like.

[A]

You know, you just got to be prepared, Ava. I mean, look, do you want us to take you to the gym and just have you do stretching? No, we're putting the weights on the rack here, Ava. All right?

[B]

This is called resistance training here.

[A]

Yeah, if you're out in the woods and a tree falls on you, you want to be able to push that tree off you, or you want to just die under the tree?

[C]

Yeah, definitely not die under the tree.

[A]

Well, then you just buckle up, buttercup. All right. Sorry, I'm still in the dad character. No, this is good. Eva, I think. I think we gave you some good advice here. Let's just gaslight her into thinking we gave her good advice.

[B]

That was good, wasn't it?

[A]

It was.

[B]

Right?

[C]

That was good. Great. I mean, the improv was top tier.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Your brother's got some issues, man.

[C]

I can't believe he's gonna hear this, and he's gonna be like, what the. How did I become the one with all the issues?

[B]

Would.

[A]

Do. You would. Would Grant say you got the issues, Ava?

[C]

I don't. I don't have any issues, but I don't think he.

[B]

Oh, God.

[C]

He has that many issues.

[A]

He doesn't have that many issues. So you just building them up to be why you say daddy issues? Aa.

[C]

No, no, no, you guys.

[B]

No.

[A]

Why?

[B]

The tape.

[A]

You said that about your brother. You said that about your brother.

[C]

I did not.

[A]

Yeah, Grant. Grant, keep listening to us. Your sister is the one.

[C]

So it sounds like he has daddy.

[B]

Issues because of what you said.

[A]

Yeah, but you. He didn't just pull that out of thin air. He didn't just pull that out of his. His rump pole. No, you. You said it. And he's just putting. You can't put a bunch of pieces on the table. Expect Miles not to put the puzzle together. All right?

[C]

All I said was that that was their time to go do whatever they want and go hunt and I guess. Yeah, that does sound like.

[A]

It sounded too sweet.

[B]

That was. We just put on a master class of gaslighting right there. That was.

[A]

Yeah, she just.

[B]

She just admitted. Yeah, that does sound like I said that.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

We want.

[A]

Yeah, we are toxic. Miles. Good night.

[B]

Like, you gotta love some toxic masculinity in the morning. Let's go, Charlie. And this is what you're gonna get at deer camp. You know, you just got another lesson right there. Did you take notes there?

[A]

Did you know we were doing that?

[B]

I did.

[A]

Another lesson in there. You're gonna have to listen back to this episode, Ava.

[C]

I really am.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm falling behind here.

[A]

Yeah, sure are.

[C]

I shouldn't have left. I shouldn't have graduated. Need to go back to school.

[B]

You should have been a boy. Is what's. What is the moral of the story here. Yeah.

[A]

If you wanted to get Invited to deer camp. You gotta go back to the womb and. And find a few strings. Yeah, yeah. Get yourself another or a different chromosome. Right? Isn't that.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. That's a biology major. She knows.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Oh, Y.

[A]

That's right. X and Y. X and Y. Yeah. Go find. You go. You go get a time machine. Go get an X. All right.

[C]

Oh, Y. Yeah.

[D]

Oh.

[A]

Why. Why is this the case? Because she already has an ass. Everyone's got an X. Yeah, well, I. I. What the do I know? Anyways, you keep her moving, Ava. Right? And watch for deer out there, all right?

[C]

For sure. Hopefully, I will be an alligator. Well, thank you, guys. I appreciate you taking the time.

[B]

We gave you the playbook. You have to let us know if they let you go. And, yeah, all else fails, just start ripping in your brother for having daddy issues, and I think you're gonna be just okay.

[A]

Ripping and gripping. Ripping and gripping.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All right.

[C]

All right. Well, thank you, guys. I appreciate it.

[A]

Yeah. Cheers, Ava. See you.

[B]

Hey.

[C]

Cheers. Tell your folks I says hi.

[A]

Oh, and do watch for them, dear.

[B]

Yeah, and make sure you change your filters, dude.

[A]

Yeah, I would do that today.

[C]

Oh. Oh, okay. I'll do that.

[A]

All right. Real good. Real good. I like that. Change your air filter, smiles. It's really rolling off your tongue.

[B]

It really feels. It feels natural.

[A]

Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, she's. She's nice, man.

[B]

I think that call went as good as it possibly could.

[A]

I mean, we did. We did it way more work than we should have. You know, we were.

[B]

Yeah. We should send her a bill for what she just did.

[A]

Yeah. Therapy sessions over here. By gosh. By gosh. By golly. Okay, well, Miles, is that. That another episode here?

[B]

That's another solid episode here at the OG bar. Episode 178. What a great. What a great episode.

[A]

No nicotine.

[B]

Miles, what a great episode to bring back the original bar. Such a milestone stone.

[A]

Yes, it is. And it's. Folks, we are all about celebrating the big mon. Monumental moments here on the Bellied up podcast. So you. You just got to stay in tune next week for what we bring to 178.

[B]

So, guys, thanks for tuning in. Remember to tip your bartender, and we'll see you in the next one.

[A]

Bye.

[B]

Okay, hope you guys have a good one.

[C]

Goodbye now.