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Miles
Welcome back to another episode of the Bellied up podcast. I am a host of the podcast named Miles. You bet you guy. Here with Charlie Barron. Charlie, how you feeling?
Charlie Barron
Feeling good.
Miles
Fired up on this episode.
Charlie Barron
Look at this new sick hoodie. Look at the drip, drip, check. What are the kids say?
Miles
Yeah, you got it. Charlie's wearing the new Road Hunting for ditch Chickens Hunting sweatshirt, which you can find@oubet you.com. you're looking snazzy today, Charlie.
Charlie Barron
Thanks, Miles. I'm ready to go. Get me a grouse or a partridge or a pheasant.
Miles
Yep.
Charlie Barron
Any of them.
Miles
So, guys, hunting season. It's a great look for you out there in the ditch. Yeah, Charlie, guess where we're at.
Charlie Barron
Miles, where are we at?
Miles
We're in Bemidji, Minnesota, at Old Slim's Bar and Grill.
Charlie Barron
And Slim's Bar.
Miles
I tell you what, Charlie, being in Bemidji brings back memories for me.
Charlie Barron
Oh, no. Oh, no.
Miles
Hold on, Let me. I gotta grab the yearbook out of my bag.
Charlie Barron
No.
Miles
Oh, there it is.
Charlie Barron
Oh, yeah. What do we have here? Miles, is that you? That's me.
Miles
Division 2 college football.
Charlie Barron
Long flowing hair. What position were you, Miles?
Miles
I was running tight Quarterback. Receiver.
Charlie Barron
Running tight Quarterback. Back. Receiver.
Miles
Running tight Quarterback. Receiver.
Charlie Barron
Running tight quarterback. Receiver. I like that. Jack of all trades. A master of none.
Miles
Correct.
Charlie Barron
And master Jack.
Miles
The reason why this brings back memories, Charlie. We had a little rivalry back in the day.
Charlie Barron
Did you? With Bemidji.
Miles
With the Bemidji Beavers. Oh, we used to call it Beaver week.
Charlie Barron
Did you?
Miles
And we used to shave our beards and just have a mustache.
Charlie Barron
Really nice.
Miles
Awesome.
Charlie Barron
I want to see a picture. Do you have a picture of you.
Miles
With the mustard Somewhere I can find it.
Charlie Barron
I'd love to see that. I'd love to see that. Now, how did you guys typically do against Bemidji?
Miles
Usually win or I'd have to pull up the stats. We at least won once or twice. For sure.
Charlie Barron
Because of you or.
Miles
No.
Charlie Barron
Okay.
Miles
I. I helped you did you know I played.
Charlie Barron
Yeah.
Miles
Didn't actually, like, do a ton.
Charlie Barron
Yeah. But your career started to go downhill in college.
Miles
Yeah.
Charlie Barron
Football career.
Miles
100%.
Charlie Barron
Because you were the star quarterback in high school.
Miles
I was. But what's cool about the MSUM Bemidji State rivalry is they actually have a rivalry trophy called the Battle Axe.
Charlie Barron
Oh.
Miles
And it's one of the oldest trophies in college football.
Charlie Barron
Really? That Is that where. I mean, the Badgers and University of Minnesota, the Gophers, they have an axe.
Miles
To Google Midgie Msum. Battle axe. I'm. I. I'll go out on limb, Charlie, and say this battle ax is cooler than the Minnesota Wisconsin one, okay? Because isn't the Minnesota Wisconsin one Paul Bunyan's ax? Yeah, yeah, this is a battle ax. It's way different.
Charlie Barron
All right, hang on, hang on, hang on. Oh, I. I put in battle as. That's not what we want.
Miles
Good thing your safe search was on. On Google.
Charlie Barron
Yeah, Seriously, I can't find this. Oh, is that it? Barbarian. No, that's not it.
Miles
Here, let me do it.
Charlie Barron
Yeah, I just typed in Bemidji battle axe. Can't find it anywhere. Miles, does it even exist?
Miles
It does. Oh, there it is.
Charlie Barron
That's the best picture you got of this thing. That is badass, though.
Miles
It is badass.
Charlie Barron
Bad axe. Is that a. That's a walleye.
Miles
No, that's an axe.
Charlie Barron
It looks like a walleye on the other end, so, yeah, it was pretty cool. How come there's not another picture of that? How come you're not holding this ax here?
Miles
That was probably after my time, Charlie.
Charlie Barron
Okay. Okay, well, that's. Is it sharp?
Miles
No.
Charlie Barron
Okay.
Miles
But anyways, just thought I'd bring out the yearbook since we're in Bemidji, we beat the Beavers a couple of times.
Charlie Barron
Did you?
Miles
Felt good.
Charlie Barron
Well, I'm really proud of you, Miles, and that's what makes me happy to be your friend and bellied up to the bar here with you.
Miles
One cool tradition, though, that the Bemidji team has.
Charlie Barron
Yeah?
Miles
Is when they win on homecoming, I believe they go and they jump in the lake, pads on and stuff with.
Charlie Barron
All the pads on. That's cold, probably. Oh, yeah, yeah, that'll end. Is it. Is it the kind of thing where you. Shoulder pads and helmets and everything?
Miles
All I know is they did do that to us once. That's why I know that.
Charlie Barron
Yeah, well, I'm sorry for your losses, Miles.
Miles
It's all right.
Charlie Barron
But I do wish you the best Here.
Miles
Should we take some colors?
Charlie Barron
Let's do it. I also want to try one of these cookies here. Should we split one? Yeah youh want to split cookie together?
Miles
We should, yeah.
Charlie Barron
I wonder what they cost.
Miles
Yeah. Wonder who made them.
Charlie Barron
I wonder that, too. Was it Lauren?
Miles
They don't know that yet.
Charlie Barron
They don't? We'll see. We'll see.
Miles
Well, we'll text the callers, all right?
Charlie Barron
Sounds good.
Grant
Grant.
Charlie Barron
Grant, what's going on? Belly up to this bar. Give us your rant, Grant.
Grant
Well, I tell you what, I work At a golf course. And I'm sick of these golfers not fixing their divots and their ball marks on the green.
Charlie Barron
That is a pain in the ass. From a former caddy, I can tell you that's annoying as hell. What golf course do you work at?
Grant
Well, I work at Lawrence Country Club. I'm a student at ku and that's kind of my part time thing.
Charlie Barron
So then you just got a bunch of work to do fixing the divots and the ball marks. Miles, you're a big golfer. What do you think about this?
Miles
I agree. I think you should fix your divots. It's gentleman's game. Now, I'm a play devil's advocate here. I'm not saying that I necessarily believe in this, but if you think about it, in any other situation, you are paying to play golf, but you're also paying to do a bunch of work. So you have to replace your divots. You have to fix the divot marks on the thing. You know, it's all this extra stuff that you're paying to do. I feel like that should be in your greens fee. Maybe someone there fixing your divots for you.
Charlie Barron
It's called a cad.
Miles
I know, but on a regular course, there should be one guy going around, I think. Yeah, well, I'm not saying I believe that. I'm just saying it's, you know, we.
Charlie Barron
Are looking to create more jobs in this country.
Miles
You know, if you go to a bar and you're done with your beer, they take the beer and throw it away for you. Whereas in a what, you have to go do that yourself at a golf course.
Grant
I don't know, Miles. I think if you're playing golf and you leave a divot, what about the group behind you? What happens if they got a hit out of your divot? That's no good.
Miles
Again, I, I don't think that I necessarily believe in what I'm saying. I'm just playing devil's advocate. There's a lot of holes in it.
Grant
I understand most golfers are pretty good. I'd say 98% do everything right. It's just really, it's the old guys.
Miles
And to be honest with you, I don't think there's a lot of golfers out there. They don't even have to worry about fixing divots on the green because they're not hitting the green anyways.
Charlie Barron
Yeah, I mean, that's my thing. You can't, you don't need to replace ball marks in the woods. So I. This Is really. For the two times a year I golf, I probably replace one. I probably scrunch up one. That's where you stick your tee in. Right. And you pull it up.
Miles
Yeah. See, Charlie doesn't even need to buy a divot fixer. He just uses his tee.
Charlie Barron
They sell like a divot fixer. Like, is that that little.
Miles
Is that the two prongs?
Charlie Barron
Yeah, yeah. Oh, I've seen that.
Miles
I've seen.
Charlie Barron
Sometimes you have a ball mark on that thing. Man. I tell you, golf. Golf is a silly, silly sport. It's fun. It's fun. And you like the. It's a meditative thing for you, Miles.
Miles
I do. I like getting out there by myself in the morning, playing nine holes, just thinking about life or not thinking about life.
Charlie Barron
You wear shoes?
Miles
Yeah, I do.
Charlie Barron
How do you feel about people that don't wear shoes when they golf?
Grant
I don't mind it. We got great grass, so if you want to walk around barefoot, go for it.
Charlie Barron
All right, so we heard the ball marks, and we heard the diva divots. What. What are the other things that piss you off about golfers? Well, give us the insight into the golf management business.
Grant
Yeah, I don't like when they drive up by the green. Like, I don't be lazy. You can't be driving your cart next to the golf green.
Charlie Barron
Are you clearly marking where their carts can go?
Grant
Oh, yeah, we got signs. Sometimes you got to rope it off because they just ignore everything.
Miles
Why do you think people do that?
Grant
Because they don't want to walk. You know, if the greens on a hill and they don't want to walk up the hill from the car path, they'll just pull up right next to it.
Miles
Yeah. I mean, you can't argue with that logic.
Charlie Barron
Pretty much the problem with, I think, golf is that you have all these rules, but you also serve so much booze on the golf course that it all goes right out the window.
Grant
Yeah. I think the golfers drinking the most are causing the least problems, though, because they're not hitting the green and they're not swinging the clubs too well, so their divots aren't that big.
Miles
Here's what we need to do. We need to upgrade the Ranger. So, like, the Marshall or whatever their name is, the guy who's kind of the cop on the course.
Charlie Barron
Oh, yeah.
Miles
We need to upgrade his cart, and he needs to start driving around and giving tickets, because it's like, right now, how it works is he'll come up to you, be like, hey, you're playing too Slow. We need you to speed it up. But don't even give them a scolding. Just hand them a ticket and say that they owe the, the clubhouse 20 bucks. That will get people to start behaving on the course. Soon as you start attacking their, their wallet, that's when change happens. If cops on the road were just giving people scoldings like the ranger does on the golf course, people would be driving 100 miles an hour, going all over the place. But as soon as they started handing out tickets, that's how you get stuff done.
Charlie Barron
This is what you do if you are the only golf course in town. If you have a monopoly on the golf courses, because otherwise they're gonna go over to like, you know, whatever the other the name. It's a country club. You said you're at.
Grant
Yeah, I'm at a country club.
Miles
What do you think of upgrading the, the marshals powers to be able to hand out tickets?
Grant
See, we don't even have a Marshall, so it's like we got to get that first.
Charlie Barron
You should, you should take it on yourself, dude. Vigilante justice, you know, I mean, get yourself one of those, one of those motorized scooters and get a Segway. Get a Segway. Get out there.
Miles
You need to be the Paul Blart of your golf course and start handing out tickets.
Charlie Barron
Almost like the sheriff and my stand.
Grant
And just fix everything behind them.
Miles
No, you gotta start handing out tickets so they do it.
Grant
There we go.
Charlie Barron
You gotta rule by fear as the ranger. Like they have no real power so you have to kind of invent some power. So tickets, if that's the thing other otherwise go around with a two iron, you know, and sort of flash your piece.
Miles
Yeah, flash your piece. Maybe give them their, their kneecaps an extra eye down. Yeah, do a little Tiger woods ex wife situation.
Charlie Barron
There you go. Well, I dug my butter into the side of his pretty little soup dub. Yeah, BMW. Anyways, well, we're sorry that those ass hats are not fixing their divots and.
Miles
Maybe it's a good time PSA Charlie. If you're out there on the course, do your part. Fix the divots, fix your ball marks on the green, respect the course and good karma will come back to you. You, maybe you'll hit a lower score.
Charlie Barron
Might I also suggest.
Grant
Yeah.
Charlie Barron
Golf less when you're golfing. Bring out a fishing pole, skip a couple holes. Those ponds, I tell you, they are just stocked, loaded, ready to go. You're going to get a fish on every cast. What's that we got good.
Grant
Back to our pod.
Charlie Barron
Do you. Do you get mad if people fish?
Grant
Oh, no, I'll go fish when the course is closed on Mondays. It's fun.
Miles
I like that.
Charlie Barron
Yeah, they're loving everything you're throwing.
Miles
Well, man, we appreciate you calling in today, and, you know, good luck with the Divot Bandits out there, the dip band. We appreciate you calling in today.
Grant
All right, you boys have a good one.
Charlie Barron
You too. Be good now. Rock and roll. Rock and roll.
Cara
I.
Miles
You know, he didn't seem to be open to fresh ideas. No, I'm not saying that it's broken. I'm saying I. I think you should fix your divots and all that, but I'm just trying to workshop other ideas.
Charlie Barron
Yeah, I like where your mind was going with that. You know, as, like, as a former caddy, you know, I flex those credentials every so often here on. I do. I do. And I gotta tell you, it's just very easy to get in the flow of the game and not think about, like, oh, I hit a great shot, or like, how many times do you, like, duff it in the fairway, you know, pull out, like, a whole hole, and then you're so pissed at the shot that you're just like, ah. And get back in the car and go. And you just left this gaping hole in the middle of the thing. And you gotta get over that. You gotta get over that. Anyways, should we take another caller? Let's take another caller.
Miles
All right, we have a. We have a patron from the bar, Charlie.
Charlie Barron
I love it. I love it when we get the bellied up guest IRL that stands for in real life.
Miles
You know, it's nice to get outside and touch grass once in a while. And this is the podcast version of Touching Grass is having someone in the.
Lauren
Bar here with us that also works here.
Miles
Okay, so she's not even actually a patron then. No, she's an employee of the bar.
Charlie Barron
It's. So Lauren.
Lauren
Yeah.
Charlie Barron
Where are you from?
Lauren
I was actually born in Colorado Springs, but I grew up in Bemidji, Minnesota.
Miles
Nice.
Charlie Barron
Lucky you.
Lauren
Yeah.
Charlie Barron
All right.
Miles
Why did you come to Bemidji from Colorado Springs?
Lauren
Honestly, My dad ran Sam's Club in Albertsons, and, you know, he didn't want to work on the road, so we moved up here, and he ran Lakeland Motor and Sport and sold dirt bikes and four wheelers.
Miles
I like that.
Charlie Barron
Oh, wow. So you grew up riding, huh?
Lauren
Yeah, I could probably beat you.
Charlie Barron
Definitely. You know what? I got a 2006 Mitsubishi that can get up to, like, 35 going downhill.
Lauren
Oh, I'm proud of you.
Miles
Last time I rode a dirt bike, I was on, like, a little mini track, and I tried to impress my friends going over a double jump.
Lauren
It didn't work out.
Miles
On a dirt bike, I pinned her down, made the first jump fine, but I was laying on the gas too much when I landed. And then when I went over the second one, I went flying. Literally flying off of the thing.
Charlie Barron
Oh, yeah.
Miles
Hurt my hip.
Lauren
So, yeah, you're fine.
Miles
Yeah, you're fine. We'll see.
Charlie Barron
Rub some dirt on it.
Miles
Now, this is all fun in games, but, Lauren, you told me you have something to get off your chest today, and it may or may not be about your manager of the bar who's actually working right now. Yeah.
Charlie Barron
Oh, wow.
Lauren
Tough guy.
Miles
Okay, so let's hear it. What's so wrong with your manager Chris over there?
Lauren
Every day he leaves me notes around the bar telling me how dumb I am as a joke, you know? And I just kind of want to make it. I want the you're dumb win here, and I want to say, chris, you're dumb.
Charlie Barron
Okay, so you came on here to just to make this statement to Chris that, in fact, you are not the one who is dumb, but he is.
Lauren
Dumb, and I'm going to win the challenge.
Charlie Barron
Okay, wait, what is the challenge?
Lauren
I mean, we try to always one up each other.
Charlie Barron
Try to one up.
Lauren
It's a battle.
Miles
So my question is, is, you know. Yes. It's like, oh, it's a joke. But the question is, has he done it enough to where it's starting to hurt your feelings a little bit?
Charlie Barron
Let's really dive in.
Lauren
Are you gonna be my therapist now? Am I gonna get billed for this?
Charlie Barron
You are every. As a bartender, you are everybody else's therapist. So now it is your time for us to therapize you.
Lauren
That was good.
Charlie Barron
Yeah. Thank you. I don't know if that was sarcasm.
Lauren
But I feel like I vent about it enough where people tip me more to pay for my therapy bill.
Charlie Barron
Okay, so you're in the actual therapy. That's good. It's good to be in therapy.
Miles
Yeah. We all need it, and we are not therapists, so.
Charlie Barron
Yeah, no, not really.
Lauren
I mean, I feel like you could be. But let me ask you.
Charlie Barron
Yeah, let me ask you this. When you're trying to get the bartender's attention, you're a bartender, Crowded bar, right? What is the rank it like, the five ways people try to get your attention rank it from best to worst.
Lauren
Oh, yeah.
Miles
What's the best way to get your attention?
Lauren
Best way. Say your empty glass forward. We have a ledge there. You can set it forward. Empty. Will typically see it and grab you another drink.
Miles
You say typically?
Lauren
Yeah, if we. If we're busy, it might take a little bit, but if we see it there, we'll always refill it.
Miles
So the best way to get the attention is patience.
Charlie Barron
Put an empty right there. Okay. And then they'll see it and will. Will you just replace the drink? Does that mean I just want a replacement drink? Okay.
Lauren
Yep.
Charlie Barron
What is the worst way to get a bartender's attention in a crowded bar?
Lauren
Whistling and doing the shake of the glass, you know?
Charlie Barron
Oh, like doing a one of these.
Miles
That was actually great. I just whistled, and Chris looked at me, got instantly pissed at me. That was great. He's like. He's like, should we fight?
Charlie Barron
Was it one of these?
Miles
Like, yeah.
Lauren
The one that I did have recently was a glass being shaken because I was talking to somebody across, like, the table, trying to get their order.
Charlie Barron
Yeah.
Lauren
And then the guy that was next to me took his beer and shook his empty glass and right in front of my face while I was trying to get an order of somebody else.
Charlie Barron
Oh, wow.
Lauren
And that was a hard, mean mug.
Charlie Barron
So give us a mean mug. Give us a bartender. Oh, damn. Something died in my soul.
Miles
I'm glad that went that direction.
Charlie Barron
Good lord. I feel like I got the evil eye now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lauren
So don't do that.
Charlie Barron
Okay.
Lauren
Okay.
Charlie Barron
What are.
Miles
Oh. Have you ever had to kick anyone out of this bar?
Lauren
Oh, honestly, we have great clientele that comes in here. There have been a time or two. Has been a time or two that I have.
Miles
How do you usually do it? You, like, grab.
Lauren
Do you want me to say it on the microphone?
Charlie Barron
Say it.
Lauren
If you don't knock it the off, I'll get you the out of here.
Miles
Okay. I like that.
Lauren
Yeah. Our boss is pretty okay with us taking the reins.
Charlie Barron
Taking it there.
Lauren
Taking the reins.
Charlie Barron
So why'd you have to kick them out? Oh, my gosh.
Lauren
You're in northern Minnesota. I mean, people get crazy tell us, screaming at other people in the bar, starting fights. I mean.
Miles
Yeah. That's classic.
Lauren
Yeah.
Charlie Barron
Have you ever seen, like, any nudity to get a drink? I was at this one bar in Minnesota where they have bras hanging up on the thing, and the whole game there is, you flash a bartender, your deal, you get to hang your bra up on the wall, and you get a free drink. I'd never seen that before, but now I've seen it all.
Lauren
I actually have not seen that before either.
Charlie Barron
Well, there's a lot of dust.
Lauren
What are you going to in Minnesota?
Miles
So hold on.
Lauren
I want to know.
Miles
So just for the listeners, if anyone's curious. I'm not curious. This bar is. But just what is the bar? What's the.
Charlie Barron
I think it's called, like, 1219. It was like a number or something.
Lauren
He's like, I need the address. Right.
Charlie Barron
Can go over there.
Miles
And she stays at home.
Charlie Barron
Dude, I, I, I'm telling you. But the amount of dust these bras collect on the ceiling is. I, I mean, and bras are expensive. I've heard.
Lauren
Well, nowadays. Yeah, Gez.
Charlie Barron
Yeah. Not like the old days.
Miles
So this is your platform right now, by the way.
Lauren
Oh, gosh.
Miles
Let's hear this. Will be starting a new segment on this podcast, Charlie, called Managers Complaints, and we want a list of some complaints you have about your manager. Number one, he can't even hear you right now, so you're good.
Lauren
That's good. He tells me I'm dumb.
Miles
Okay, number one, we've heard that.
Lauren
Okay. Number two, I mean, he seems like.
Charlie Barron
A pretty good manager.
Lauren
Really great manager. I have a hard time say anything.
Miles
Jesus Christ.
Charlie Barron
All right, all right. Complaints about patrons.
Lauren
Oh, how long is this podcast?
Charlie Barron
Hey, we can go. Oh, I was supposed. I got a note that said, ask you about cookies. What's up with cookies?
Lauren
So if we're gonna complain about patrons.
Charlie Barron
Yeah.
Lauren
We have a high demand over here who thinks he should get all the cookies that he wants and I should bake them at his needs. I bake the cookies for the bar.
Miles
Over there.
Charlie Barron
Yes. Oh, you make those cookies in that jar? Oh, my gosh.
Lauren
I make a lot of cookies.
Charlie Barron
That is impressive. Do you get. Do you get paid extra to bring those in?
Lauren
Not that.
Charlie Barron
I mean, they throw you a little change here, and, I mean, that's a huge win for a bar.
Lauren
Can I say a lot of cookies?
Charlie Barron
I mean, you are. Might be making this bar in a lot of ways. I mean, and I say that knowing there's a beaver playing piano above me. So there's a lot to compete with of what makes this bar great. But right up there. That's certainly one of them.
Lauren
One of them.
Charlie Barron
Yeah. So patrons, though. Patrons, biggest complaint.
Lauren
Ooh, I'm going to say it. Regulars that think that they own the bar and you need to cater to every need.
Miles
Now, I will say, are you a.
Lauren
Regular at a bar? Are you coming at me? Right?
Miles
No, I just, I've thought about this before, and I sometimes think that the regulars at the bar have put more money into the bar than the owners actually have. So it depends on the bar. That is the question mark.
Lauren
Okay. Oh, what regulars do you have? I mean, like. Okay, so the regulars here, they're not.
Miles
Obviously spending hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Lauren
Oh, God, no.
Charlie Barron
Look at them backtrack like that. God, you've made Miles just. Just. He's a big man, but he quivers real quick when you get.
Miles
I could tell you she got offended that I said the regulars own the bar.
Charlie Barron
Yeah.
Miles
And so I felt like I had to back for a little bit, you know?
Charlie Barron
What?
Miles
That I'm not backpedaling You.
Charlie Barron
You dipped your toe in and you're not shriveled up.
Miles
Miles, the regulars on the bar.
Lauren
It's okay.
Charlie Barron
Wow.
Lauren
Work at one and tell me that.
Miles
I love that.
Lauren
I'm just kidding.
Charlie Barron
All right, so regulars who own the bar. What else?
Lauren
Ooh, God, I don't know. I.
Charlie Barron
What about guys who put their used zins in the urinal?
Lauren
I had somebody throw up in the sink.
Charlie Barron
Oh, geez, that's way worse.
Miles
It zooms in. The urinal is a piece of cake.
Lauren
Yeah, that's a piece of cake, Truthfully, because I've cleaned the bar in the mornings. That is a piece of cake. I had somebody puke in the sink, and I made them go in there, clean it up with their hands.
Miles
That's so disgusting.
Charlie Barron
I mean, do you. What'd they eat that night?
Lauren
Everything looked like.
Charlie Barron
Yeah, you don't do.
Miles
Were you a little concerned that maybe that the reason why they threw up is because they had one of your cookies?
Lauren
Never. Because I'll tell you right now, I've had nothing but good compliments.
Charlie Barron
Those cookies are good. I want to eat one.
Lauren
It will be one. And you throw up.
Charlie Barron
Those are big ones.
Lauren
Don't come looking at me.
Charlie Barron
All right, all right, all right. So vomiting in the sink. No. Don't act like you own the place. What if you're out back, you know, having yourself a smoke? I don't think you smoke, but let's say you did. Okay, Nevermind. And then they walk around back and they grab a beer and let you know. I grabbed a beer while you were out.
Lauren
Totally. Okay.
Charlie Barron
Totally okay. What about refilling things, fixing things around here? Like, you notice you're out of tp, filling that, going over to Sam's club, getting some tp, bringing it over, refreshing it. Do you like those helpful things, those acts of kindness from the patrons?
Lauren
They don't do that.
Charlie Barron
Oh, we're not doing that here.
Lauren
No, we do it as workers.
Charlie Barron
Well, I feel like that, you know, some of the locals need to step up their game.
Lauren
Yeah, they do. Actually, there's one. There's one local that will step up the game, and that's Mikey Love.
Charlie Barron
Mikey love. Shout out to Mikey Love.
Lauren
He likes. He likes double limes. And if we run out of limes for his drinks, he will go to the grocery store and get limes.
Miles
I like that.
Charlie Barron
God bless him.
Miles
I like that.
Charlie Barron
That's what you need.
Miles
Be a Mikey love.
Lauren
Be a Mikey love.
Miles
Mike. Be a Mikey love.
Charlie Barron
Be a Mikey love. Listen to Lauren.
Lauren
And he was here.
Charlie Barron
Oh, Mikey love was here.
Lauren
Yeah.
Charlie Barron
Wow. Geez. Anyways, folks, listen to Lauren. You got your do's and your don'ts when you're in your small town bar. What happened there? Oh, did he call you dumb again?
Lauren
He's talking shit.
Charlie Barron
Well, that's what bartenders do.
Miles
Ye, yeah.
Charlie Barron
Well, thanks for bellying up to the bar with us.
Lauren
Thank you guys for being here.
Miles
And guys, remember, always, always tip your local. Lauren. Charlie, Thanksgiving is right around the corner.
Charlie Barron
Is it that time of year?
Miles
It is that time of year. And you know what goes great? Well, first of all, what's your favorite kind of pie at Blueberry pie. Mine's pumpkin. I know, real original pumpkin. But you know, would go great with that blueberry pie of yours, Charlie.
Charlie Barron
Little Tippy Cow, Miles.
Miles
Vanilla soft serve. Tippy Cow. I mean, it's basically like having whipped cream or ice cream.
Charlie Barron
Oh, yeah, how about that? And hey, here at the bar today they got us. They make cookies here. Let's try the cookie with the.
Miles
I'm gonna get crazy, Charlie.
Charlie Barron
Mm, you're gonna dunk.
Miles
I'm gonna dunk.
Charlie Barron
Here goes.
Miles
Cookie dunked in Tippy Cow vanilla soft serve.
Charlie Barron
Pretty good.
Miles
That's very good.
Charlie Barron
I gotta try. Yeah. Donker Donking and ice.
Miles
So just when you thought there's not any more ways to enjoy Tippy Cow, we just found a new one.
Charlie Barron
Oh my God.
Miles
That was actually really good, wasn't it?
Charlie Barron
I'm glad we thought of this.
Miles
So guys, next time you're having pie at Thanksgiving or you got a just a cookie and a hankering for a little vanilla soft serve. Pickups. Tippy Cow and tip it on back. Cheers, Charlie.
Charlie Barron
Cheers, Miles. Listeners, listen up. Thanksgiving, it's just around the corner. Which means that it is time for football, family feuds, and maybe some backyard games. That'll get you a little out of hand. But hey, don't forget about those playful pups. Dogs bites happen more. I'm sorry? Dog bites. Dogs bites. Miles, what am I doing? Dog bites, they happen more often than you might think. If you end up in a bind because old Fido took a chunk out of your leg, don't worry. Nicolet Law here to help you.
Miles
Yeah, you got to be careful at Thanksgiving with those backyard football games.
Charlie Barron
Yeah. You pull a groin or something.
Miles
Yeah. Or break a leg.
Charlie Barron
Yeah. Hey, shoot, you know, if, if there, if there's an injury around, you get. Make sure you give nicolay a call 100% and he will get you that money that you need. He goes after the insurance companies so you don't have to. Nicolay Law, ladies and gentlemen. Give him a call.
Miles
Guys, we got big news in the bellied up world. We now have a voicemail line. We know that it can be frustrating to call in and wait for a long time. We hear you. That stinks. So by including the voicemail line, it will allow everyone to get a chance to have their topic heard. We'll listen to the voicemails, then line up calls with the ones that we love. This means the more interesting your topic and the more energy that you bring increases your chances of being featured on the show. So if you want to be on the show, call 218-303-5095. You can call in 24, 7. And again, the number is 218-303-5095. If you forget the number, it's in the description of the podcast, so don't worry.
Cara
My name is Cara.
Charlie Barron
Hi, Kara. Belly on up to the.
Cara
How are you guys? I'm like so flipping out right now. I didn't think I'd get in touch with you.
Charlie Barron
Oh, well, thanks for calling in, Kara. We're excited you did. Belly on up to the bar and tell us what's on your mind.
Cara
Well, I would like to know if you have any advice on how to friend zone a guy in the most Midwest nice way possible.
Charlie Barron
You. This is the most Midwest question. How to, how to Midwest nice a guy into the friend zone. It's tough. It's tough because if you're looking Midwest nice, feels sometimes like they're coming on to you, extending conversations longer than they should, inviting you out to their cabin sometime. Yeah, we should get on the boat. You know, this is a tough one. So give us, give us some details.
Miles
What's been your current approach?
Cara
Just kind of ignoring the situation. But this, this has happened on a few occasions and it seems to be. Guys That I have been friends with for a really long time, and they tend to tiptoe across the line a little bit, Push the. Push the limit. And just wondering how to friend zone them without ruining the breast tip and hurting their egos.
Miles
Have you tried the technique of just being like, God, man, you're just like a brother to me. You know, you remind me a lot of my brother bro. What's up, my bro? Well, we talked a lot of bro. Talk to him.
Cara
Yeah.
Charlie Barron
And not step bro. Don't say you remind me of a stepbrother.
Miles
Yeah. Because that's definitely going to give the wrong effect.
Charlie Barron
Yeah.
Cara
No, I. I consider myself to be kind of one of those, you know, tomboy girls. Try one of the guys. But sometimes it's just that approach doesn't work, and I have to be a little more firm or I feel like I'm embarrassing them or hurting their egos in some type of way, like just by ignoring them. And it's just. I don't know. I don't know what to do. It's. It's frustrating.
Miles
Well, walk us through how we get to this point. Right. So what usually had sounds like this has happened a few times.
Charlie Barron
Give us the last guy, though.
Miles
The last guy. What was the steps? What happened? You started as friends, then what happened to the point where it went a little too far in your mind?
Cara
So I have a particular friend who I hang out with pretty frequently, and he's always trying to do nice things for me. Like my furnace went out. He came over and tried to help me fix my furnace. You know, just. He does nice things for me, and then I think he's expecting something that I don't want to give him. And the last incident, he came over to fix my furnace, and when he went to leave, he tried to kiss me, and it was very awkward. I turned my head. He ended up pissing the back of my head. And he hasn't talked to me since then.
Miles
Well, first of all, get a new furnace. It shouldn't break down that much.
Charlie Barron
Yeah. And call an actual furnace guy, you know.
Miles
Yeah. Hey. No, what. What he was doing was he was fixing something, but he also was breaking something. The old auto body shop.
Charlie Barron
Oh, yeah. So he'd have to come back.
Miles
Exactly.
Charlie Barron
Oh.
Cara
So I will say the next day, my water heater went out.
Charlie Barron
Did it really? Oh, yeah.
Cara
Yeah, it really did.
Miles
Well, you could have just kissed them to get free labor out of it. You know.
Cara
It just seems like. I don't know. I don't know how to be. I I'm a firm believer that men and women can be friends without any dreams attached. But it just seems like the closer you get to someone and the more they get to know you and the more the friendship grows when one person isn't feeling it and the other one is. How do you set those boundaries and in the most midwest nice way possible?
Charlie Barron
Well, I think what you got to do is say, oh yeah, so I've been seeing this guy, you know, you got to talk about your invented guy if you got no interest in this thing, you know, and talk about other guys you're interested in or, or something. Just make them know that like this thing is you're not even considering this situation.
Cara
Yeah, I guess, I guess that could work. I'm telling you to lie when you're lying.
Miles
No, call him. Invent about another guy that's always good out of the woods.
Cara
Yeah, and that's the thing is they've been around for numerous relationships that I've been in. They've been friends with my exes, you know, like, so they're still trying while I'm in a relationship still trying to, you know, so, I don't know, kiss.
Miles
You while you had a boyfriend?
Cara
No, but one did tell my boyfriend that if he wasn't careful, he was going to steal me, steal me away from him.
Charlie Barron
Well, it's a warning. That's. Yeah, no, I'm kidding. That. That's not what you want. Let me, let me ask you, trying to get a sense of how old these folks are. How old are you? How old are these?
Miles
You live in a town of like 10 people and you're the only girl. What's going on?
Charlie Barron
Yeah.
Cara
I just have a lot of guy friends, but I mean, these are people that I've been friends with for, you know, 20 plus years. I'm 39.
Charlie Barron
You're 39?
Cara
Yes.
Miles
Okay.
Charlie Barron
Are you looking for someone yourself or are you kind of like. Nah, I'm good.
Cara
I don't know, kind of, but not really more focused on myself and my career, so.
Charlie Barron
Well, what do you do for work?
Cara
I am in marketing in a. In the promotional products industry.
Charlie Barron
Got it. Okay. Well, I think, you know, what you really have to do is just start lying to their face. I think that's the best thing I keep coming up with. And even in that situation, you might have to take some, some tips from our east coast friends and just, you know, if the Midwest nice isn't working, you're going to have to tell them to go F themselves.
Miles
But, but that's Just going to make them want to be with her more.
Charlie Barron
Yeah.
Miles
I think you're. You're kind of in a. Like, you've become like the uncatchable monster fish in the pond, you know, Charlie, that makes you want to keep going fishing every day till you catch it.
Charlie Barron
Yeah.
Miles
So. So I think you kind of are caught in a bad situation here.
Charlie Barron
What about. What about just taking less care of yourself, you know?
Miles
Yeah. I think you're saying let herself go. Yeah.
Charlie Barron
Just let yourself go a little bit. You're clearly attractive and have way too good of a personality. You gotta start being just mean.
Miles
Yeah. Start taking up smoking.
Charlie Barron
Yeah.
Miles
Maybe leak to some friends that you've picked up a disease.
Charlie Barron
Just the oral herp.
Miles
Not anything crazy. Just maybe leak that you have the oral harp, as Charlie would say.
Charlie Barron
Yeah. These guys do the Heisman with these guys more. You know what I mean? Keep them at arm slings. Start wearing a lot of boxy flannels.
Miles
Burp in public.
Charlie Barron
Yeah.
Miles
Yeah. Don't comb your hair. God, don't. Don't do that. Don't comb it.
Charlie Barron
Yeah, Tell them. Tell them.
Cara
That might work.
Miles
Could also let your armpit hair grow.
Charlie Barron
There you go. Yeah.
Cara
I don't know. I wouldn't say it's the attraction thing. I just think it's the. The personality and, you know, the building the friendship over the course of a couple of decades. It just. It sucks because I don't want to lose that friendship, but how much of a friendship is it if the other person isn't respecting me? So.
Charlie Barron
Yeah. That is a. That's a Jerry Springer mic drop right there. You know, they're not.
Miles
Do you.
Charlie Barron
Do you think guys and girls can be friends outside? Do you think they can legitimately be friends? Are there guys that you can. That you can honestly say are your friends and they've never wanted nothing from you?
Cara
Yeah. Yeah. Plenty of guys. But it's just a select few who I think started out attracted to me. I was with someone else. They didn't stand a chance. And they just became my friend over the course of several years.
Charlie Barron
Yeah.
Cara
And maybe, you know, they just tried and tried and tried, and you would think at some point you could only beat someone down so for so long before they give up, but they're just not giving up.
Miles
Have you tried. I'm gonna be. Gonna go crazy here. Have you tried just sitting them down and telling them the truth?
Charlie Barron
Wow.
Cara
Yeah.
Miles
I don't want to get crazy.
Charlie Barron
She tried it.
Cara
Tried it, tried it. Didn't work.
Charlie Barron
Who'd you Try it with.
Cara
This last person.
Charlie Barron
The guy who tried to kiss the back of your head.
Cara
Yes. Yes.
Charlie Barron
What'd you say to him on a.
Cara
Zoom meeting, by the way? I was working, I was on a zoom call for work when this happened.
Charlie Barron
You were on a zoom call when he tried to kiss the back of your.
Cara
Yeah, he tried to kiss me while I was working and on a call on camera. So all of my co workers, they all saw.
Charlie Barron
How did you bury this lead? So you're, you're running a zoom meeting, he's over there clink, clanking away, fixing your, your heater, and he comes upstairs, says, well, it's all good. If that water heater goes out, you give me a call. Did he go in?
Cara
Yeah.
Charlie Barron
Did they go in mouth open and everything?
Cara
I don't know. I just saw him coming in, trying to make the move.
Miles
And what did your co workers say?
Cara
They. Nothing. They were speechless.
Charlie Barron
Oh my. Did you record that?
Cara
I don't know if it's recorded. I don't want to watch it if it is.
Charlie Barron
You were sitting at your desk on this zoom call and he comes in, or was it a stand up desk? It's kind of a weird thing to walk into sitting.
Cara
Yes.
Charlie Barron
Did he know you were on a call?
Cara
I mean, people were talking and there were people on the video. I'm like on my monitors, so I would assume so.
Charlie Barron
Oh, no wonder. This guy's pretty forward.
Miles
Yeah, well, I think, Yeah, I just think he, this guy. At the end of the day, we all have too many friends anyways. Yeah, just, just cut this one. Cut this guy out. I mean, what? Oh, he's, he's a good conversation. When you go out with all the friends and you're afraid to lose that, that's replaceable.
Charlie Barron
Yeah.
Miles
You know, so you can find another person that can fulfill that. Just cut this guy out. Seems a little too aggressive for my liking. If you want Charlie and I to sit him down and talk to him, we can too.
Charlie Barron
That's what you need. You need a, you need a. You need a guy. 1. Your strongest guy friend. Yeah, the, the, the, your best friend who's never tried to hit on you. You need him to be your guy.
Miles
You need to be. You need a security team.
Charlie Barron
You're. Well, he's the one that should have that sit down. He should be like, hey, listen, you and her, it's not going to happen that way. It saves you the awkwardness. You've tried. You don't need to spend all your time trying and trying and trying. If it doesn't work after the first time. It's one and done. Sending your. Sending your dog.
Miles
You got to do what I do with my employees and just delegate.
Charlie Barron
That's it.
Miles
Delegate, delegate, delegate, delegate.
Charlie Barron
Now what. What does she give them in return for that, though? You then have to negotiate their gal pal situations. You have to wing woman on or something.
Cara
I can do that. Can handle that.
Miles
All right. Well, there you go. Well, we appreciate you calling in today. Good luck. Delegate that conversation out. And good luck.
Charlie Barron
And do not ask any guys to come help you fix your dryer. Whatever you do, keep them out of.
Miles
Your house when you're alone.
Charlie Barron
Yes.
Cara
I'm gonna leave it to the experts from here on out, I think.
Miles
Smart.
Charlie Barron
Yeah, There you have it. Well, you have a good one.
Cara
And thank you, guys.
Charlie Barron
Tell those fellas we say watch out.
Miles
For water heater repairman trying to kiss you.
Cara
Thanks, guys. And Charlie, I'll be at your show in York, Pennsylvania, so. Oh, excited to see you.
Charlie Barron
Awesome. Well, that'll be fun.
Miles
Guys.
Charlie Barron
You gotta check for the free plug.
Miles
You gotta check out Charlie's show where he's. Where's some places you're going. This is coming out in November.
Charlie Barron
Charlie be in lacrosse. I'll be in Pennsylvania. That. That I think was in October. So it's nice to see you at the show there. But all tickets, Charlie Barrons dot com. You can find them. Is it in October in Pennsylvania, by the way? Am I right about that?
Cara
Yes. I think it's the 23rd.
Charlie Barron
Awesome. Well, we'll see you there. I'm looking forward to it.
Cara
I'll be there. Can't wait.
Charlie Barron
We'll see you soon now.
Cara
Thanks, guys.
Charlie Barron
Thank you.
Cara
Bye.
Miles
I feel a little dirty after that call. I feel like that guy went a little too far.
Charlie Barron
We gotta talk to the fellas. Fellas, my guys.
Miles
Just cause a gal asks you to come over to fix your water heater does not mean green light go.
Charlie Barron
No, it. It doesn't. You gotta feel it out more. You know, I.
Miles
You got to read the room. If she's on a zoom call, she's not exactly looking to get hot and heavy.
Charlie Barron
Yeah. Toss a couple feelers out there for. Don't go right for the kiss either. Do one of those accidental handhold things, you know, like where you accidentally like, like.
Miles
I'll see you later.
Charlie Barron
Yeah. Oh, and then if she does the thing where she grabs your leg, at any point did you get hard there?
Miles
I currently have a half chubb.
Charlie Barron
You're welcome. I mean, that's a good indicator if she's putting that energy out there. A lot of eye contact. Miles, please get your hand off my leg.
Miles
See, there's a feeler. That's how you do it.
Charlie Barron
And, ladies, you can be that direct. Are Miles and I still friends? Yes. Did he put his hand on my leg and I rejected it. Yes. So it can all happen. Can all happen. We just. It's communication now. That actually feels nice, Miles. And I see those.
Miles
Just listening. I touched his hair, not something else. Okay.
Charlie Barron
Yeah. The hair on my head.
Miles
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, guys, that's another episode of the Bellied up podcast. We appreciate calling in. Also, make sure you go check out the Bellied up merchandise.
Charlie Barron
Blaze orange Road on for ditch chickens, baby.
Miles
Look at that. Ready for hunting season. Charlie, we'll rock. Oh, you bet you, Dot com. Check it out. We'll see you in the next one, folks. Tip your bartender.
Episode Summary: The Art of Friend Zoning #127
In episode #127 of the Bellied Up podcast titled "The Art of Friend Zoning," hosts Myles "You Betcha Guy" and Charlie Berens dive into a mix of nostalgic banter, listener rants, and heartfelt advice. Recorded at Old Slim's Bar and Grill in Bemidji, Minnesota, this episode blends humor with genuine discussions, offering listeners both laughs and relatable insights.
The episode kicks off with Myles and Charlie reminiscing about their past in Bemidji, Minnesota. Myles pulls out his yearbook, sparking a playful conversation about their high school football days.
Myles [00:34]: "I'm ready to go. Get me a grouse or a partridge or a pheasant."
Charlie [01:03]: "Long flowing hair. What position were you, Miles?"
Their discussion unearths memories of the Bemidji Beavers rivalry and the coveted Battle Axe trophy, a storied prize in college football.
The hosts share laughs over photos and anecdotes, setting a warm and engaging tone for the episode.
The first caller, Grant, vents about golfers neglecting to fix their divots and ball marks, a common annoyance for someone working at a golf course.
Charlie empathizes with Grant, sharing his experience as a former caddy, while Myles humorously suggests integrating divot maintenance into the greens fee.
The conversation evolves into a playful debate about enforcing rules on the golf course, with both hosts offering tongue-in-cheek solutions to Grant's frustrations.
Next, Lauren, an employee at Old Slim's Bar, shares her struggles with a manager who leaves her notes calling her "dumb" as a joke. She seeks advice on how to address this without damaging their professional relationship.
Charlie and Myles discuss the delicate balance between humor and respect in the workplace. Charlie suggests taking on a more assertive role in managing the situation.
The hosts delve into broader bar management issues, from handling difficult patrons to maintaining a positive work environment, offering both practical tips and comedic relief.
In the focal segment of the episode, Cara reaches out for advice on friend-zoning a guy in a "Midwest nice" manner. She describes her frustration with male friends who overstep boundaries despite her clear lack of romantic interest.
Myles suggests a gentle approach by emphasizing brotherly affection to create distance without outright rejection.
Charlie adds his own strategies, recommending honesty tempered with tact to maintain the friendship without encouraging further romantic pursuits.
The discussion highlights the challenges of setting boundaries while preserving longstanding friendships, blending sincere advice with the hosts' signature humor.
As the episode progresses, Myles and Charlie engage in playful banter about cookies, bar traditions, and Thanksgiving preparations. They sample cookies paired with Tippy Cow vanilla soft serve, adding a personal touch to their conversation.
The hosts wrap up the episode by promoting upcoming shows and encouraging listeners to engage via voicemail, fostering a sense of community and anticipation for future content.
Friend Zoning with Empathy: The episode emphasizes the importance of clear communication and setting boundaries in friendships to prevent misunderstandings and preserve relationships.
Workplace Dynamics: Lauren's story sheds light on maintaining professionalism and respect in a bar setting, highlighting the delicate balance between humor and authority.
Listener Engagement: Through callers like Grant and Cara, the hosts demonstrate their commitment to addressing real-life issues faced by their audience, fostering an interactive and supportive community.
Notable Quotes:
Myles [06:22]: "You have to replace your divots. I feel like that should be in your greens fee."
Lauren [15:56]: "Every day he leaves me notes around the bar telling me how dumb I am as a joke."
Cara [30:04]: "I would like to know if you have any advice on how to friend zone a guy in the most Midwest nice way possible."
Charlie [34:19]: "What do you really have to do is just start lying to their face."
Conclusion
The Art of Friend Zoning #127 offers a blend of humor, nostalgia, and heartfelt advice, making it a quintessential episode of the Bellied Up podcast. Whether discussing the intricacies of maintaining friendships or sharing the everyday challenges of bar management, Myles and Charlie create an engaging and relatable listening experience for their audience.