Nicole and The Slap Heard ‘Round The World (Re-Release)

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata

Episode: Nicole and The Slap Heard ‘Round The World (Re-Release)
Date: October 23, 2024
Hosts: Nicole Byer, Sasheer Zamata
Notable Guest/Contributor: Kimmy Gatewood, Jordan Kim, Caller 1

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Overview

This episode centers almost exclusively on the cultural earthquake of "the slap": the moment at the 2022 Oscars when Will Smith walked on stage and slapped Chris Rock. Nicole, Sasheer, and Kimmy (joined by their producer, Jordan, and a caller) dive into their reactions, memes, social media discourse, and the broader implications for comedy, celebrity, and culture. The episode retains its exuberant, witty, and unfiltered tone throughout, digressing into their personal lives and listener questions, but always looping back to the event that "brought us all together."

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Main Discussion: The Slap Heard 'Round the World

[00:21 - 00:59] Breaking News at Sasheer’s House

• Nicole describes walking into Sasheer's house just as the Will Smith/Chris Rock incident unfolded live. She is bombarded with shouts about what happened and describes being overtaken with giddy disbelief.
• Nicole: “My life got better. I've never been happier. I've never laughed as hard. The memes were so good.” [00:49]
• Kimmy: “Black Twitter said, we unite everything we need.” [00:56]

[01:01 - 02:21] Social Media Reactions & Memes

• The friends discuss the immediate online reaction, especially Black Twitter's energy, and the explosion of memes.
• Nicole shares her favorite: a Jada meme with “Tupac would have shot him.” [01:25]
• Sasheer points out the absurdity—letting people sleep with one’s wife is tolerated, but a joke triggers violence.
• Sasheer: "Yeah, it's been fodder for a lot of really funny tweets and memes. And immediately... people firing off amazing jokes." [01:04]

[02:13 - 04:46] “It Was an Open-Handed Slap” — Recap and Admonition

• Nicole admits to having first thought it was a punch, was shocked at the audacity of an open-hand slap—“So disrespectful.” [02:21]
• Laughter is mixed with a firm stance against violence at major events.
• Nicole and Kimmy riff on the Wild Wild West joke (“This is 2022, not the Wild Wild West”), relishing how not everyone online gets the reference. [03:15]
• Calls out hypocrisy over Hollywood’s selective outrage (“get all the motherfuckers out here who be abusing... Will Smith just slapped a man on the floo”). [03:57]

[04:46 - 07:37] Oscars, Award Show Culture, and Taking Away Oscars

• Debate whether Will's Oscar should be revoked. Nicole jokes, “He did the Fresh Prince of Bel Air!” [04:32]
• Lightly roast the acting in King Richard versus Concussion and note the irony of Oscar boycotts.
• Listeners and their friends’ memes/jokes are shared.

[07:42 - 10:49] Will the Slap Endanger Comedians?

• Sasheer voices worry about the precedent set for live comedy performances—will unruly audience members start taking swings when they dislike a joke?
• Nicole and Kimmy riff about comics in cities like Cleveland being slapped for innocuous jokes: “If I can't get a take home glass filled with daiquiri, that's gonna be my Oscar that I won for slapping the shit out of you.” [07:13]
• Nicole shares a personal story of an audience member storming the stage and how comics already face physical threats.

[10:51 - 14:26] Dissecting Will Smith’s Justifications and Jada’s Reaction

• They mock the Oscar night acceptance speech—"He said he did it for love.” [08:54]
• Red Table Talk and Jada’s public persona are joked about.
• Discuss whether Will’s reaction was about one joke or accumulations of public scrutiny, “years of piling on”—from Jada’s “entanglement” to Tupac comparisons. [13:29]
• “I just love the discord... everyone talking about it... should it have happened? No. Very funny? Yes.” [14:04, Nicole]

[14:39 - 16:07] Security, Staging, and Audience Perceptions

• Nicole is stunned that no one stopped Will from getting on stage, suggesting there were so many people/so much security that it seemed almost “allowed.” [14:56]
• Hosts reflect on how everyone, Chris Rock included, assumed it was a comedy bit gone wild [15:36].

[16:10 - 18:30] Post-Slap Fallout and Conspiracies

• The crew jokes about alternate universe outcomes (“What if in 10 days you find out this was all a bit?” [17:35]) and cynically wonder if it was a stunt for viral fame or to promote Chris Rock’s tour.
• Sasheer: “Will keeps trying to reach viral status... you're already at the Oscars. What goal do you have past this?” [18:04]

[18:31 - 26:27] Award Show Hijinks Through History

• They recall other infamous award show moments: “Moonlight/La La Land,” Taylor/Kanye, Adele Dazeem, Lil Mama at the VMAs, Steve Harvey’s Miss USA gaffe.
• Debate the ongoing messiness of award shows and why things are never “a well-oiled machine.” [26:03]
• Signature banter: Nicole as tweet-encyclopedia, referencing meme reactions and Lupita Nyong'o’s viral face [26:18].

[27:01 - 29:38] Pure Joy, Comic Material, and the Meme Economy

• Nicole and Sasheer are “elated”—"I haven't been this happy in years." [27:44]
• Speculate on Chris Rock’s inevitable material about the slap; suggest his tour should be renamed to “The Slap Heard Around the World.” [29:10]

[30:02 - 32:58] Backstage Dynamics and Audiences Post-Pandemic

• Discussion drifts into comedians, post-pandemic audience behavior, and security at shows; Nicole and Sasheer wonder if audiences will become rowdier.
• “People are even more on their worst behavior post pandemic. Social graces have gone out the window.” [31:26, Sasheer]

[33:05 - 40:13] Listener Involvement, Internet Speed, and More Slap Jokes

• Jordan and a caller share their live reactions to the slap and its viral explosion.
• Callbacks to memes, international broadcast differences, and the global discourse.
• Nicole: “Anyone not talking about it? What’s wrong with you?” [39:43]
• Caller: “People have already made music from [the audio]…” [39:56]

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Listener Questions & Advice

(Non-slap content starts around [41:58] but slap references persist throughout.)

[41:58 – 43:18] Skate Gear for Plus-Size People

• Listener asks Nicole about plus-size roller skate safety pads.
• Nicole recommends 187 Killer Pads, noting they custom-make plus sizes and mentions Moxie’s collaboration with Courtney Shove. [42:31 – 43:14]

[43:22 – 44:29] Strawberry Sandwiches & Korean Food

• Sasheer receives a note about trying a Korean-style strawberry sandwich (strawberries and cream between bread).
• Hosts are open-minded ("I'm here for it. I want to taste it.") and riff on sandwich definitions. [44:26]

[44:55 – 47:05] Listener Fact-Checks: The Daniels Twins

• Caller provides background info on the Daniels twins’ fertility journey.
• Nicole confirms the story with a live Google, and both hosts react positively to the story of twins supporting each other.

[46:18 – 54:30] Friendship Lost Due to Jealous Partner

• A listener (“Caller 2”) shares a story about being cut off from a close, platonic ex due to his fiancée’s jealousy and not being able to attend his father’s funeral.
• Sasheer and Nicole offer empathy, validate the pain, and debate the “rightness” of blocking someone from a funeral.
• Nicole: “It’s okay to call and ask to go to the wake… it's not fair.” [52:56]
• Both advise the caller to grieve the friendship and cherish the good times, while recognizing not all dynamics are within one’s control.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Keep my wife’s name out your fucking mouth!”
  The hosts gleefully re-enact and riff on this now-iconic phrase from Will Smith, marveling at its meme status. [10:01, 10:07]
• Nicole: “I have never heard a man say that... that's a very, like, lady thing to say. Like, you know, gossipy. I was like, Will Smith, you’ve lost your fucking mind.” [10:10]
• On comic safety: “People are already on their worst behavior. Pre-pandemic, you had people literally walking towards the stage towards you.” [07:42, Sasheer]
• On the aftermath: “What a dream to be a pariah and also an Oscar winner. Just people being so scared of you.” [30:30, Nicole]
• Oscars & mess: “Award shows haven’t been good for a minute. They’re messy.” [25:59, Sasheer]
• On grief and boundaries: “One of the great things my therapist said was, like, all relationships are helpful... you are allowed to grieve them no matter how long or short they are.” [54:30, Nicole]

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Tone & Style

• The conversation is relentlessly playful, irreverent, and meme-drunk, laced with genuine affection for both the subject matter and each other.
• The show’s approach is to mine humor—and moments of heartfelt candor—from even the most shocking news.
• Advice is given directly and with empathy, but never loses the hosts’ comedic voice.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:21 — Nicole enters Sasheer’s house, the slap breaks live
• 01:25 — Favorite memes/jokes about the slap
• 04:46 — Should Will lose his Oscar? Acting-performance debate
• 07:05 — On-stage violence and the safety of comedians
• 08:54 — Analyzing Will Smith's “I did it for love” speech
• 14:56 — Security/crowd control at award shows
• 26:18 — Award show disasters and meme-ification
• 31:26 — Comedy crowds’ bad post-pandemic behavior
• 39:55 — Internet remixes and the meme economy
• 41:58 — Plus-size skate gear Q&A
• 44:55 — The Daniels twins’ fertility story
• 46:18 — Friendship cut off, handling grief and boundaries

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Final Thoughts

The episode is a whirlwind of laughter, cultural critique, and fellowship, using the slap as a springboard to discuss everything from comedy-theory to friendship loss. Nicole, Sasheer, and their friends expertly channel the collective energy and absurdity of the moment, reminding listeners to find joy—even in chaos—and offering pockets of empathy for the messiness of human relationships.

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Transcript

[Nicole Byer]

Hello, Sasheer. Hello. Hello. Hello. It's nice to see you.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It's nice to see you too. I saw you last night. You came to my house, and that was so wonderful.

[Nicole Byer]

I walked in the door, and everyone shouted at me that Will Smith hit Chris.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Everyone was like, will Smith, Chris.

[Nicole Byer]

But it was like four different people yelling it at me at different time. Everyone started a different time. And I was like, wait, what? And then very slowly, you were like, will Smith.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Hit, hit Chris Rock.

[Nicole Byer]

And then my life got better. I've never been happier. I've never laughed as hard. The memes were so good.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Black Twitter said, we unite everything we need.

[Nicole Byer]

I haven't stopped laughing since.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I mean, yeah, it's. It's been fodder for a lot of really funny tweets and memes. And immediately, like, show wasn't even over.

[Nicole Byer]

Nope.

[Sasheer Zamata]

The commercial break hadn't even ended. It was just, like, people immediately firing off amazing jokes. It was. Really brought us all together.

[Nicole Byer]

My favorite one was a picture of Jada, and above it, it just said, tupac would have shot him. And I have never laughed harder than me. Like, because it's so funny that that was the straw that broke the camel's back, not her entanglement. Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I was also seeing Table Talk. I was seeing tweets that were like, so he's gonna let people sleep with his wife, but if you make a joke about his wife, you get slapped?

[Nicole Byer]

I mean, it is truly incredible.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I.

[Nicole Byer]

Boy, oh, boy, Sasheer. Just literally right before I went to sleep, I was like.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

And then.

[Nicole Byer]

Cause I thought he punched him. But then I got to watch it, and I was like, an open hand.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Slap, and it's really disrespectful.

[Nicole Byer]

So disrespectful. And then I really love Chris Rock. Be like, will Smith is coming.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I think he thought, like everybody else, he thought it was a bit. He was like, oh.

[Nicole Byer]

He was.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Because he was laughing the whole time, like, oh, I can't wait to see what Will does.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Oh, shit. It is.

[Nicole Byer]

I don't. I. I've never laughed harder at, like, something so ridiculous.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

And then.

[Nicole Byer]

I mean, I don't condone violence. I don't think you should be hitting people when you're upset, especially on the biggest night of your career where you were the front runner to win an Oscar for being the biggest movie star in the world. I just. I don't. I don't think that's the smartest thing to do, but, like, boy, oh, boy, was it fucking funny. And there's a lot of people. So I think it was Mike Lawrence. He. He posted. I cannot believe Will Smith was not thrown out after that. This is 2022, not the wild, wild West. And I died. I laughed so fucking hard. And then people were responding because I reposted on Instagram. And then people were, like, responding like it was real. Like, we really thought that it was, like, so horrifically bad.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And, like, they didn't get the wild, wild west reference.

[Nicole Byer]

They didn't get the joke at all.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, my gosh.

[Nicole Byer]

And it really made me laugh. I, like, people were just like, yeah, I agree. He should have been thrown out. And I was like, no. I mean, if you're gonna throw out this criminal, you gotta throw out all the other criminals retroactively. What are we doing here, Hollywood?

[Kimmy Gatewood]

The bunch of criminals. She fucking sh. You better get Harvey Weinstein. You better get Woody Alley. You better get all of the motherfuckers out here who be abusing. Will Smith just slapped a man on the floo.

[Nicole Byer]

Think of any more abusers.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Just.

[Nicole Byer]

Just this two. Truly couldn't think of. Yeah, take away their fucking Oscars. Because the people were like, we want to take his Oscar. Oh. Oh, yeah. There's, like, a coalition to take Will Smith's Oscar. I'm like, no, no, he needs one. He did the Fresh Prince of Bel Air. And I.

[Sasheer Zamata]

That, yeah, this is a. This is retroactive for the Fresh Prince performance.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

It is.

[Nicole Byer]

Because King Richard was a theatiscule performance. I'll go on the record and say it. I thought he was better in Concussion, a movie he wasn't nominated for. And his wife boycotted the Oscars because he wasn't nominated. Yes.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah, Lord Jesus. Also, our friend Julia Rossi had a really funny Concussion joke. She said.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Julia Ross, she.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I hope Will Smith didn't give Chris Rock a da, da, da. And then the Concussion poster. And then you had a very funny bit where you put it on every social media platform that you had.

[Nicole Byer]

I hear I'm here for jokes. And then there's a ton of people who are like, this is going to embolden people to hit comics when they don't.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Like, I think that.

[Nicole Byer]

Do you. I think that if somebody got on stage and tried to hit a comic, I'd be like, I didn't insult your wife. He and I. Chris Rock insulted his wife. That was cause and effect. If I'm talking about the super bowl, and I'm like, yippity yap, yap, deep, deep. And then you come up and hit me. You're not married to The Super Bowl.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Even if you talk about someone's wife, no one should be hitting you. That's not like cause and effect. Like, he fucking deserved that. He did not deserve that. If you roast the shit out of somebody in the front row, you they still should not get on stage and hit you.

[Nicole Byer]

No, I know.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I was just saying you can't use.

[Nicole Byer]

That as an example to like Will Smith hit Chris Rock because he insulted his wife. Nobody's insulting your wife. So, like, you can't hit him. I'm just saying if you're going to.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Use that as no one.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

No, I had to readjust my scene. No.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Now I don't think everyone's going to use that, the context as the example. They're just going to see. One of the biggest superstars in the world got upset about a joke that he didn't like and walked on stage on one of the biggest platforms and.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Slapped the shit out of one of.

[Sasheer Zamata]

The best comedians we have living today.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

And then was. And then he got fucking Oscar, was allowed to party after that. No one sent him home. So if you're in Cleveland and you don't like the jokes that someone's saying.

[Sasheer Zamata]

About your fucking T shirt, you can walk on stage and slap the shit out of me.

[Nicole Byer]

If I'm at hilarities in Cleveland and they don't like my shirt, I'm walking.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

On stage, opening my hand, fucking slapping. And if I don't get a free daiquiri or french fries, what am I doing it for? If I can't get a take home glass filled with daiquiri, that's gonna be my Oscar that I won for slapping the shit out of you. So she Hilarity Cleveland.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I mean, it's a bad example.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

People are.

[Sasheer Zamata]

People are already on their worst behavior. People are already bad. Pre pandemic. You had people literally walking towards the stage towards you.

[Nicole Byer]

Oh, I had a man join me on stage.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Yes.

[Nicole Byer]

Because I said he didn't have a big dick. He said nine inches. And I said, you are not a tripod, sir. If you want to scream at me how big your dick is, get on stage and show your dick. And then he charged the stage. So I made myself big like a bear. Because you're supposed to do embarrassment. So I was like. But then he was so tiny, I was like, I could fudgeing rock him. But you're right. I'm kidding. I do not think. I don't think it's okay what he did. Funny, yes. Appropriate? No.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Influential?

[Nicole Byer]

Absolutely.

[Sasheer Zamata]

But if someone charger making of Course.

[Nicole Byer]

Something to go in the history books for 2022.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

We keep living in unprecedented times. We are living in unprecedented times. Will Smith has flown off the handle.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Never to be repeated, regurgitated, eaten up, spit back out. Revolutionary, visionary, creative.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

And then his speech was so insane.

[Nicole Byer]

He said he did it for love. He said he was a God, made him a vessel of love. Imagine he went to sleep the night before the Oscars, said, dear Jesus, I hope I win for King Richard. And Jesus goes, you better slap the.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Shit anybody talks about, Jada.

[Nicole Byer]

And then he was like, well, I'll let Regina King live, but Chris Rock, I've had.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

I know that's. I sent you that.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Chris Rock was not the only one making a joke about their family or Jada. Regina. I mean. I mean, who's going to. You're not going to.

[Nicole Byer]

You're not going to come for. Regina is amazing.

[Sasheer Zamata]

But still, also, like, I mean, someone. Someone quoted a Rebel Wilson joke that seemed even worse. Like, there's been multiple jokes at multiple award shows. Probably every award show he's been to this season because there's shit is so public. They've been so public for the last couple years. And it's like, well, yeah, of course people think you can. They can make jokes about your family or you or your relationship.

[Nicole Byer]

I mean, also, my absolute favorite part was Will Smith going, keep my wife's.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Name out your fucking mouth. You better keep my wife's name out your fucking mouth.

[Nicole Byer]

I was like, I have never heard a man say that. I've said it. I've been like, keep your name. Keep my name out of your mouth. I'm like, that's a very, like, lady thing to say. Like, you know, like, gossipy. I was like, will Smith, you've lost your fucking mind.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

And guess what?

[Sasheer Zamata]

He just starts, like, grabbing the air.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Keep my girl's name out your mouth. Out your fucking mouth. He starts patting his face. He's like.

[Sasheer Zamata]

He takes his earrings out.

[Nicole Byer]

He's rubbing Vaseline on his knuckles. He slips off his shoes.

[Sasheer Zamata]

He takes his nameplate earrings out.

[Nicole Byer]

Honestly, this is why it's good.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

We just generated 12 minutes of content.

[Nicole Byer]

Oh, my God.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I mean, yeah, it made the. The Oscars so exciting.

[Nicole Byer]

So exciting, because both of us were like, fuck the Oscars. We never want to watch it because John Milhiser was like, I can't come to dinner. I need to watch the Oscars. And we're like, loser. And then we were. All we talked about was the Oscars.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Absolutely 100.

[Nicole Byer]

And then Jaden, did you See what he tweeted? He was like, that's how we do.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I was like, interesting.

[Nicole Byer]

I love this family. They are our dynasty. I love them. They're our first family, the Smiths.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

I love them.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

They like.

[Sasheer Zamata]

God, I think I would be really embarrassed, really embarrassed of my dad, my husband. Anyone like I know did that. I'd be like, oh, he had a moment of elapsed in judgment. Oopsies. Not.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Yeah, that's how we do.

[Nicole Byer]

Another good tweet was, Will Smith just won an award for being the best actor, but can't act like a human when he hears a joke. And I was like, it. Really? That made me laugh because I was just like, most actors aren't humans. They don't know what real people do.

[Sasheer Zamata]

You brought this up, too. Will came from comedy. His opinion.

[Nicole Byer]

Yes. He's an absolute comic. He. He. Yeah, he does like.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

He.

[Nicole Byer]

He knows what jokes are. And then we never flashed to Jada again. I was like, get a camera on her. Was she pleased? Was she happy? Did she enjoy the slap? Did she. Did she enjoy the slap?

[Sasheer Zamata]

I did. I do want to know what her reaction was to that slap. She's like, that's my man.

[Nicole Byer]

And then everyone being like, chris Rock.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Can'T make fun of Jada. She has alopecia.

[Nicole Byer]

So when you write jokes for the Oscars or for an award show, they do not give you a rundown of everybody's things. Yeah. And then. I know, I know. I know. We. We shouldn't make fun of the way people look. That's not nice. It's not kind. But, like, also, she really could have just gone on Red Table Talk and been like, this hurts me. X, Y, and Z. And, you know, and then make that public, as well as her entanglement with this August person who.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

I don't know. Do you know this August person?

[Sasheer Zamata]

He's a singer.

[Nicole Byer]

I didn't know him when the entanglement news came out, and I never looked him up.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

I just know that he's the man who made Will Smith cry in public.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think. I mean. Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

Yep. Well, I guess Jada is the one who made him cry because his wife.

[Sasheer Zamata]

You know, the whole situation. But, yeah, it wasn't just August that made him cry. I think he was a little. And I guess it felt like this was a release. Like this was a straw that broke the camel's back. Like, it was not just the Chris Rock joke. It was the years of piling on, people shitting on Will's manhood. Like, his. The fact that his wife goes outside their marriage, the fact that he's not Tupac, like, all this shit. And he's like, you know what? This is it.

[Nicole Byer]

But I was like, really?

[Kimmy Gatewood]

This. This is the last straw. This was nothing.

[Nicole Byer]

Oh, my God. I've truly never been more delighted. And then I just love the discord. Like, I just love everyone talking about it. Like, some people have some hot takes, and I guess my. The hottest take I have is, like, very funny. Should it have happened? No. Yeah, I think that's my hottest take.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah. My hot take is. I'm really scared that people are going to think they can do this to comics on stage. And also just like, we got to stop this black on black crime.

[Nicole Byer]

We do. We got to stop it. You know, Also the wildest part to me is there's. I mean, I've only done one award show, but, like, oh, no. I presented at the Emmys, too. The Creative Arts Emmys. They wouldn't let me do PrimeTime and the VMAs. Oh, yeah. MVMA's.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

I've been to award shows. There are a ton of people in the wings. There are so many people in the wings. And there's security. I believe on the. Like, there was too many people there that. To let that happen on live television. Like, I guess you're just like, a producer is like, don't. Don't stop it. But, like, if someone's coming on the stage who was just made fun of, that's when your producers come out and go, hey, Will, you got to sit. We're going to let Chris finish, you know, this and that. Like, there's. There's a reason why they allowed that to happen. That's what. Like, it was allowed.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Well, it's also.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It's hard to know because Will has never done anything like that as far as that we've seen.

[Nicole Byer]

So. And.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And he does bits and also knows Chris. So, yeah, I would. And Chris was laughing, so I would assume, like, oh, they're gonna do a bit together. Or this would be like, a funny joke or something. Not, oh, he's gonna slap the shit out of him.

[Nicole Byer]

He's gonna open palm, slap another grown man.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Who could have predicted that?

[Sasheer Zamata]

I'm sure they're like, this is fun. Ooh, exciting. Nice little twist going on.

[Nicole Byer]

They're gonna have, like, a little rip.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Riff going on on stage. No violence. He chose violence.

[Nicole Byer]

I also cannot believe nobody in that audience went, damn.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Or was like, you can't do that. Like, no.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Well, they were. They were Laughing, I think, because they also thought it was a bit still. And also, Chris Rock played it off so well.

[Nicole Byer]

Yes.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And so they were, like, still laughing. But I think people were confused and then, like, hoping it was a bit and then being like, oh, wait, I guess not.

[Nicole Byer]

I wish Chris Rock burst into tears. That is, I wish. I wish he had started immediately crying and going, we love just, like, sobbing. I would have. Like, how funny would that have been?

[Sasheer Zamata]

But also, then we would have really felt bad for him and been really mad at Will.

[Nicole Byer]

And then, oh, God, how amazing would that be if he had a 20 minutes later accept the award and be like, sorry, I made that man cry.

[Sasheer Zamata]

He should have said sorry.

[Nicole Byer]

He should have said sorry. But he did say, love makes you do crazy things. And I'm. I'm like, I defend my family. And I was like, this is psychotic.

[Sasheer Zamata]

What really would have shown a great sign of strength is if you just pulled him aside backstage. If you can't wait till the end of the show, do it during a commercial break. You know how to get back there. Pull him aside man to man. You need to apologize to my wife. And he probably would have done it.

[Nicole Byer]

He absolutely would. What if we find out 10 days from now that this was all a bit.

[Sasheer Zamata]

That would be really nuts. And what would the end goal be?

[Kimmy Gatewood]

What would they possibly have to gain from that?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Either of them, I hope. I mean, I wish it would be nice if it was a bit, but.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

What on earth could have been the.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Best case scenario for that?

[Kimmy Gatewood]

I don't know. I was just saying, what if you got so mad?

[Sasheer Zamata]

I did. Well, also, I think I got so mad because it's not. That's not crazy. Like. Like, Will keeps doing these. He keeps trying to reach viral, like, status. Like, he keeps doing these things for big publicity stunts. But, like, you're already at the Oscars. You're already there, and you're already winning an Oscar. What.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

What goal do you have past this? That you need to use this as.

[Sasheer Zamata]

A launching pad for something else?

[Nicole Byer]

Who else was nominated in his category?

[Sasheer Zamata]

I honestly don't even know. I just knew he was campaigning really hard.

[Nicole Byer]

I saw King Richard, and I can't believe he won.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I.

[Nicole Byer]

And that's not. I love Venus and Serena. I think their story is really incredible. I just. The movie's really curious for me. Wait, Kimmy, can you look up who else was nominated? Was.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It was Javier Bardem nominated for the Lucy thing.

[Jordan Kim]

Denzel Washington for the Tragedy of Macbeth. Benedict Cumberbatch for the Power of the Dog. And Andrew Garfield for Tick, tick boom.

[Nicole Byer]

Oh. Hmm. Yeah, I guess I would have given it to Will, but I really did like, tick, tick boom. I don't know. I just can't believe, like, whoever knew the results wasn't like, we gotta switch this.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

We can't give this to him.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Well, that's the thing, that no one's supposed to know the results locked up by the accountants, which is wild. Why?

[Nicole Byer]

Why do the accountants know?

[Sasheer Zamata]

I don't. I. I don't even think they know. They just carry the lockbox in.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

What then? Who knows?

[Sasheer Zamata]

I don't know. The Academy. Now.

[Nicole Byer]

Also, don't accountants count. They count the ballots.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yes.

[Nicole Byer]

See, why accountants? Why not just a per. A ballot counter? Does it have to be like a numbers guy?

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Like, how hard? How hard?

[Nicole Byer]

One, two. Okay, one, two.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Okay, one.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Like, how hard is it?

[Sasheer Zamata]

It could be a bingo organizer.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Truly, I could do it. I can count.

[Nicole Byer]

Good. Boy, oh, boy. I can't.

[Sasheer Zamata]

No, but you would count it correctly, and then you would place the wrong envelope somewhere.

[Nicole Byer]

You are absolutely right. I would figure out a way to find it up. Oh, God. I still. I can't believe the magic we. We were allowed to witness. Boy, oh, boy, oh, boy, What a treat.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

Golly.

[Sasheer Zamata]

But, you know, we needed something to talk about. We really did. That wasn't, like, super stressful.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah, we talked. You know, we've been talking about the p. Pandemic for two years.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah, War.

[Nicole Byer]

War's happening. You know, we needed something light, like a slap. Emily Heller had a great tweet. Emily Heller said, we would know how to deal with this if NBC didn't. Didn't cancel the slap. I butchered her tweet. It was just really funny to me because I watched the slap. It was a television series event, and all it was was somebody slapping their friend's kid. And the aftermath of that, I mean, it's pretty wild. I mean, if someone slapped my kid, I'd be like, well, it's. That's not kind. Please don't.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, my God. Someone needs to jump on the miniseries of the post Will Smith slap. We need to see the ripple effect. We need to see Chris and his family. We need to see the Smith family. We need to see everybody who's produced the Oscars. We need to see what happened after the slap.

[Nicole Byer]

I honestly would love to see what happened. I also cannot believe that they were like, well, we. We gotta keep the show going. Everyone go home.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Everyone has to go. Yeah, we're done. We'll mail you your award.

[Nicole Byer]

I cannot believe 20 minutes later, he won. It's so funny.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It's so. It's like, of course he. Like, I just. Of course he won't.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

He.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And he probably knew he's going to win.

[Nicole Byer]

And he.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And still.

[Nicole Byer]

I mean, some of the discourse was just like, he was being bullied on a night that should have been special. He knew he was going to win, and he was disrespected for the last and final time. So he was protecting a black woman. And I was like, no, I think we just watched a man lose his mind a little. I think a lot of. I actually. Who knows? Well, I hope Oprah gets to the bottom of this. I hope Oprah. Oprah has Will on a Super soul Sunday. Or we have a special on abc and we get to the bottom of the slap.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, you know that. We're gonna first hear an exclusive on the Red Table Talk.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Jada already pulled that table out.

[Sasheer Zamata]

She dusted it off. She's polishing it. She's getting ready.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

I have Chris on.

[Sasheer Zamata]

She probably will have Chris on.

[Nicole Byer]

And then she'll make Will sit across from Chris and start crying again. I mean, how funny.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

How. I just. How wild.

[Sasheer Zamata]

How wild. Oh, boy.

[Nicole Byer]

What would you do if you got slapped after saying a joke on stage?

[Kimmy Gatewood]

What would you do?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, boy. I would be stunned. I don't. I don't know. I guess I would try to play it off, but then also, maybe I would cry.

[Nicole Byer]

I think I would burst into tears.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

And be like, I didn't deserve that. Just start hitting.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Just like Chris definitely throwing fists. Chris played it off the best he could because there's no good way to respond to that. You can't, like, also get upset. You can't also hit back. You can't just leave the stage because that's, like, a huge thing. He just, like, made a joke, kept introducing the next thing, which is also really shitty because it was, like, a moment of black excellence.

[Nicole Byer]

It was like a moment of celebrating blackness.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And it was like, now. Now we have to, like, watch Quest Love try to salvage this. Oh, but I got.

[Nicole Byer]

This is gonna go down as, like, one of the greatest moments in, like, award show history. Behind. I'll let you finish. Taylor, Adele, Dazeem.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

I'm trying to think of another one.

[Nicole Byer]

But those are, like, my. These are my top three.

[Jordan Kim]

Moonlight La Land.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, my God.

[Nicole Byer]

I can't believe I forgot about that. That was so beautiful to watch. La La Land. They all get up and then they go, oh, no. So sorry. We got to tell you something.

[Sasheer Zamata]

We got to tell you something.

[Nicole Byer]

God, what a dream. I love award shows.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I mean. Yeah, I guess now we do.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah, we got it. We have to watch. What's the next one?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, no. And now I'm scared that people are gonna keep trying to top that. Like, is there gonna be. Is someone gonna be like, all right, I gotta do the next big stunt.

[Nicole Byer]

At the poor show maybe. Oh, yeah. Lil Mama got on stage, I think at the VMAs during Empire State of Mind. Do you remember that?

[Caller 1]

Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

I'm like, get down.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah. Her career was never the same after that.

[Nicole Byer]

No, it wasn't. Then she went on Charlamagne show and cried.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

What was?

[Sasheer Zamata]

And then Steve Harvey did something.

[Nicole Byer]

Was that Miss USA or something? He announced the wrong Miss usa. Award shows haven't been good for a minute.

[Sasheer Zamata]

They're messy. And why.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Why are they so messy?

[Sasheer Zamata]

They've been happy for decades. It's like, you should have it down. It should be a well oiled machine by now.

[Nicole Byer]

It really should be, but it truly is not. Dang. I just, I feel like the reactions.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I like Lupita's face during which he's just like. Like it was kind of a smile. Like, wait, what? That's crazy.

[Nicole Byer]

Joel Kim Booster tweeted. I love how I've like all these faces in my head. I'm like a fucking tweet encyclopedia right now. Joel Kim Booster was like, she deserves as best supporting Oscar for the work.

[Sasheer Zamata]

She did at the Oscars.

[Nicole Byer]

And I was like, she really did. She really. She was the eyes for us all. You know, we were living through her because I had the same. The same face I just slap.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Keep my. My wife's name out of your fucking mouth.

[Nicole Byer]

And Chris is like, I will.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I will, man.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Don't hit me again.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah, just please don't hit me. Oh, my God.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, boy. Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

What a dream. What a living dream. So pleased. And just so everyone knows, we're rushing this episode out to be topical. This was supposed to be an evergreen episode. We have to talk about this. I had to talk about it. I just. I honestly, I haven't been this happy in years. The way I feel and have felt for the last couple hours ever since I saw it. You remember in Hawaii when I said I was the happiest I've ever been on this boat? I'm, like, pretty close to that.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I'm like, elated.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

It's so funny to me. I can't stop laughing. Slap.

[Nicole Byer]

And I mean, Chris Rock probably has written so much material already.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, I know. Is SNL on right now. I was like, can he go next week? Can he just, like, whoever is hosting, please do a monologue about this?

[Nicole Byer]

I mean, probably.

[Sasheer Zamata]

That's like, free material.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah. What a gift. Oh, my God.

[Caller 1]

His latest or most current picture on Instagram is. He's promoting a tour.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, he's definitely talking about this.

[Caller 1]

It's 80,000 comments of people just talking about the. About the Oscars on that one picture.

[Nicole Byer]

Oh, wow.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I mean, also great for ticket sales because we were like, I gotta see.

[Nicole Byer]

What Chris is gonna say, because he had been. I think he was prepping his hour because I did a show at the Comedy Store and he dropped in and. Yeah, I think he's, like, prepping his hour, and I think he's gonna have to do a little bit more prep work or he'll figure it out on the road.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Absolutely. Hoo, boy.

[Nicole Byer]

Boy, oh, boy. I mean, I would buy a ticket. I would love to hear. I would love to hear jokes about. I would love to relive this any way I can.

[Caller 1]

What if all this was just to promote the tour?

[Kimmy Gatewood]

That's what I mean.

[Nicole Byer]

What if we find out in 10 days the tour should be called the.

[Caller 1]

Slap Heard around the World.

[Nicole Byer]

Like, that should be the tour. Wait, what was his. He has a special called Black and.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Blue Bicker and Slapper.

[Nicole Byer]

Boy, oh, boy. I. I'm so pleased with how yesterday went.

[Sasheer Zamata]

My man did tweet something that was like, will Smith, bring the pain.

[Nicole Byer]

Chris rocks.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Bring the pain.

[Nicole Byer]

That's funny. There was one where it was like Hitch, but they switched it to Bitch, Bitch. And then the little subtext under was.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Like, keep my wife's name out of your fucking mouth.

[Nicole Byer]

Iconic behavior from Will Smith. You guys, I will never. I hope I get to work or meet with him because I'll be like, you gonna slap me too? Like, I would.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I just.

[Nicole Byer]

I just wouldn't. I would bring it up all the time. I wish we were friends. I wish I could text him right now.

[Sasheer Zamata]

You.

[Nicole Byer]

You slap him there.

[Sasheer Zamata]

There's video of him dancing at his after party and people. And there's. The comments were like, everyone is six feet away from him because they don't.

[Nicole Byer]

Want to be in arm's reach.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

I saw the video. Nobody was around him.

[Sasheer Zamata]

He was very solo. He's very in the middle of a big circle.

[Nicole Byer]

Oh, God, what a dream. What a dream to be a pariah and also an Oscar winner. Just people being so scared of you. I mean, the Oscar parties this year were probably so much fun because you get to be like, oh, I had a front row seat to that. Someone's like, I was in the back. I didn't quite see what happened.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Tell me in detail.

[Nicole Byer]

I mean, oh, boy, oh, boy, everybody. Yes. So that's what I mean. Will Smith gave us a gift. And there's going to be so many people at Hilarities in Columbus, Ohio.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Trying.

[Nicole Byer]

To get their daiquiri glass to take home. Imagine.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Imagine.

[Nicole Byer]

I just. I cannot fathom just a person at a show being like, I hate that joke.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

I'm going to slap.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I honestly can imagine that.

[Nicole Byer]

I know.

[Sasheer Zamata]

People are even more on their worst behavior post pandemic. We're not post pandemic. We're still in the midst of the pandemic. But, you know, now that we're back in. In front of people again, people are loud and, like, vocal social graces have gone out the window. I really wouldn't put it past someone in the audience who walk on stage and try to fight.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

It happens. It already happens.

[Nicole Byer]

I know. And I just told a story about how it happened to me, and, yeah, I just. I mean, wow. It just sucks. It does.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It just sucks. I told. I texted.

[Nicole Byer]

I was like.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I felt so many emotions in the last 24 hours, like laughter, joy, jubilation, but also despair, disappointment, anger, confusion.

[Nicole Byer]

And I have only felt one emotion. Pure joy. Blissful about this. Oh, my God. I just. And there's been no statement from Jada.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Not at all. But she's saving for the table.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah, she's. Yeah, she's dragging that table out. She's having it refinished. She's inviting her mom. Willow, come on.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Maybe they're making the table longer. That's. Maybe that's what it is. Extending the table.

[Nicole Byer]

They're putting a new leaf in that table. Pull up.

[Sasheer Zamata]

We got extra seats.

[Nicole Byer]

Oh, God. Should we, like, help people? I don't know. I could literally talk about this for the rest of my life.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I know. We do have to. Yeah, we should move on from this. But how could.

[Nicole Byer]

Jordan, Kimmy, what are your thoughts? What are your thoughts? Jordan, Kimmy, how do you guys feel?

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Wrong.

[Nicole Byer]

Happy. Sad.

[Sasheer Zamata]

She take away his Oscar.

[Nicole Byer]

How you guys feeling? I mean, I said earlier I love award shows.

[Jordan Kim]

And I told Sasheer I was trying to get it on right when it happened, because then Twitter just exploded with 10 million. What happens? And I was yelling at my husband like, something happened. Turn it on.

[Nicole Byer]

And it was every. It was exactly what it was.

[Jordan Kim]

I'm like, Sasheer, I'm worried people will start slapping more. But Also, like, this has been a real good time. And have I read like seven articles about what happened last night even though I've watched it? Yes, yes, I have.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah, Jordan.

[Caller 1]

I watched it in live time and I. I honestly thought that it was a skit, which, which makes sense of how the audience reacted, because if you don't know what's going to happen at the Oscars, I guess, and you don't know who's in on what. And so from like the outside, like, oh, this is a funny skit. But then I realized that something was really wrong when all of a sudden it just got muted. And then the scenes were like, the scenes are jumping back and forth. And then I just remember watching Will Smith, like, in silence, just hugely mouthing.

[Nicole Byer]

Keep my, like the whole. I don't need to say it again. We all know the phrase keep my.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Wife'S name out of your.

[Caller 1]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Real emphasis on too, huh?

[Caller 1]

Yes, 100. You could hear how loud he was saying it, even in silence.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah.

[Caller 1]

And it was until I grabbed my brother and I was like, I think I just watched Oscar history.

[Nicole Byer]

I don't think this is a skit.

[Caller 1]

And he, he let me know that other people in other countries were like, oh, there's no censor to this. So, like, I could actually watch the video of, like, the full time of, like, what was actually happening. And I was like, oh, this is not a. This is real. This is not a skit.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Although if this was planned, Chris. Chris would be the perfect person to help facilitate it because he's a comedian and he's going on tour. And if it was a thing where it's like, hey, man, I'm a help you out. People keep shitting on you and your relationship. Use me. Use me as an example out of me on stage. No one's going to mess with you. And then, and then maybe the jokes will stop. And then, I don't know, when would they. When would they let up? When they let us know it was a joke. In a year is a slow burn.

[Nicole Byer]

I mean, I would enjoy a slow, like a year long delight in this before it was, like, taken away from me. I also really just love when Chris Rock was like the GI Jane joke, man.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I mean, and I was like, yeah, man, that it was. Of the jokes Chris could make. That was real light. That was a real light joke.

[Nicole Byer]

Mm.

[Sasheer Zamata]

God, yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

What a dream. What a fucking dream. All right, I guess we should help people.

[Sasheer Zamata]

All right. Yeah. Let's see what's up. What else is going on in the World.

[Nicole Byer]

I hope, Will not much. I really hope Will Smith has written an email being like, I slapped a friend last night, and I'm not sure.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

How our friendship will survive.

[Sasheer Zamata]

We've been friends for maybe 40 years, but last night, I don't know, I just. Something came over me, and I slapped.

[Nicole Byer]

The shit out of my friend on national television. But then I won an Oscar. What would you guys do? Love the pop, Will.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

What would you guys do?

[Nicole Byer]

Well, Will, I guess I would just chill with the Oscar and apologize to that friend.

[Caller 1]

Would you be more shocked or concerned if it was like, a punch instead of a slap?

[Nicole Byer]

I. Yes. A punch is like, oof, that could really hurt. Yeah. Break a nose, break a jaw. An open hand palm slap is wild.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I guess it's just like a warning. Like, hey, man. But a punch is like, I'm trying to fuck you up. Also, people were saying, like, I had a friend who got hit and hit. They fell back, hit their head, and they died. Like, people were like, this could have been dangerous. Like, he could have knocked Chris over. He could have fallen off the seat. A number of things could have happened, and it could have been much worse than it actually was.

[Nicole Byer]

Ain't Chris rock for no reason. He's solid as a rock, baby.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Can't knock him over. Yeah, really, we should feel bad for his hand.

[Nicole Byer]

Well, I was also, like, he really wound up and hit him, and you, like, saw his head move, but, like, didn't fall. Like, he didn't really move, move. So I was like, did it actually hurt? I need to know if it hurt.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I think it was just like, I just want to shock you. I don't think he actually wanted to hurt Chris because he could. He still has his Ali hands. He could have punched the out of him.

[Nicole Byer]

I mean, wow, What a. What a. What a. What a thing to do. You got a suit made. Your wife's in couture. She got a nice fade going on. Everybody else dressed up. Everyone took pictures. And you're like, I'm gonna fucking hit somebody that's crazy.

[Sasheer Zamata]

In the middle of the show. And then they're supposed to keep going as if that didn't happen.

[Nicole Byer]

Oh, my God. I think Quinta Brunson, she tweeted. She was like, it was a very West Philadelphia Oscars. And that made me laugh. Then she's like, abbott elementary tomorrow. That means, God, piggyback. Everybody was crushing it. Do you want to hear the joke I heard?

[Caller 1]

Yes, it was. What did Chris wake up to on his face this morning?

[Nicole Byer]

What? Fresh princess.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It's like, kind of good but also.

[Caller 1]

Bad at the same time.

[Nicole Byer]

No, that's. It's pretty good. It's the.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

I have a feeling these memes are.

[Nicole Byer]

Going to be great for a minute. God. Yeah, I just. What a dream. Anyone not talking about it? What's wrong with you? Get in.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Get in. People.

[Caller 1]

People have already made music from.

[Nicole Byer]

From the.

[Caller 1]

I will. I'll share it with you guys, please.

[Nicole Byer]

But it's truly.

[Caller 1]

They. They took what Will was screaming.

[Jordan Kim]

They already auto mixed dance.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, man.

[Nicole Byer]

I mean, what a dream.

[Sasheer Zamata]

The Internet moves fast.

[Nicole Byer]

It moves so quickly. And I'm grateful, very grateful for everything I've gotten to see in the last less than 24 hours.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Okay, let's hear from the other people.

[Nicole Byer]

All right, what if everyone just wrote, what do you think about.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

I would love it.

[Nicole Byer]

I would love it. Honestly, someone who's a devoted listener of this show, just send a reminder six months from now to write a letter to ask us about the Oscars to see if I'm still delighted about it. I bet I will be.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Hello to all you fabulous ladies who make me smile every week. My name is Katie. She her. And I was inspired by you guys to get my very own pair of skates to start my own skate gang with my friends. We could be the NorCal branch of your gang if you were so inclined. I spent birthday money on some holographic Impala skates that I think Nicole would wholeheartedly approve of, even though the laces are glittery blue and not purple as she would probably prefer. And I just got my safety gear order in the mail this week. Problem is I'm a plus size babe and my pads are super tight. What is a big fatty baddie to do? I want to set a good example for my stepdaughter who I got skates and gear for for Christmas. And always wear protective equipment, not to mention spare these 30s knees that have already had lots of wear and tear from dancing and martial arts over the years. But I want my gear to be comfortable too. Nicole, can you share what brand of spirit brand your safety gear is to help your girl out? Love you both to the moon and back.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah, it's 1:07 something. Oh, God, hold on, I'm gonna Google it. 107, 106 and park killer pads. Yeah, 106 in park. No, it's 187 killer pads. And I believe they have plus size pads. Mine were made for me, so sorry about that. But I do believe they have a plus size. Oh, they do. Custom pads.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh Nice.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah. So I think reach out to them and then there is. I think it's like moxie. I think they also have a plus size one. I think they did a collab with a plus size skater whose name except escapes me.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, the thick set.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah. There you go. That's her. What's her name? It doesn't have her name anywhere on it, does it? Maybe she's a tattooed, really stunning babe.

[Jordan Kim]

Courtney Shove.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yes.

[Nicole Byer]

I follow her on Instagram and she's great. Yay. Real babe. I'm glad we found her name. What's it?

[Jordan Kim]

Courtney Shove.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

Courtney Shove. I love Courtney Shovel.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Nice.

[Nicole Byer]

But yeah, that's my answer. Solved.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Solved.

[Jordan Kim]

Now here's one specifically for Sasheer.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Whoa.

[Nicole Byer]

Wow.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Hi, Sasheer. I heard you talk about getting a Korean style hot dog, which you can have dip into sugar. It's common in Korea. Korea. Because we love savory and salty and sweet flavors in one food. There's also something called a strawberry sandwich, which is a sandwich with strawberries and cream. My Canadian boyfriend thinks this is strange because a sandwich should be savory. But what is a sandwich but the things that you like tugged between two pieces of bread. Right too Loo. Oh, that's nice.

[Nicole Byer]

That is nice. Can you look up what the strawberry cream sandwich looks like?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah, I thought she was gonna say it was like, with meat or something.

[Nicole Byer]

Mm.

[Sasheer Zamata]

But if it's just like strawberries, it's like basically a strawberry shortcake.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah. Who fucking cares what? Oh, that looks tasty.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And is it like, on a piece of white bread?

[Nicole Byer]

I think so. I think it's cream bread and strawberries.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Interesting.

[Nicole Byer]

I'm here for it. I want to taste it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I'll give it a try. And I guess I'll give it. I'll give that sugar dog a try too.

[Nicole Byer]

You don't have to if you don't want to.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Okay. I don't actually want to.

[Nicole Byer]

Come on, let's drive back up to the very far place went to.

[Sasheer Zamata]

There might be a closer location.

[Nicole Byer]

Nope. Let's get in the car. Let's go.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah, we'll see. Maybe I'll be surprised. Maybe I'll like it.

[Nicole Byer]

Maybe. Should we do another?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah, let's do another.

[Nicole Byer]

Okay.

[Caller 2]

Hi, Nicole and Sashir. I just wanted to say that I'm pretty sure with the Daniels twins that one of them got cancer, it might have been Cynthia, and that she was having difficulty conceiving and that the other one served as a surrogate for her or gave her some reproductive, you know, materials to help her have A baby. I really should have Googled this before I called, but I guess that's what you have to be for. I hope that I'm not totally mistaking this for someone else. Okay. Love the show. Bye.

[Nicole Byer]

Okay.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Oh.

[Nicole Byer]

Brittany reveals she had a baby using her twin sister Cynthia's donor egg. You love to see it. You love to see it. That's sweet. That's sweet. That's nice. Oh, I love that for them.

[Sasheer Zamata]

So she, like, she's not acting, but she is having babies or which one was the. Which one had the baby?

[Nicole Byer]

I believe Brittany is the one who still acts.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And she donated her egg, I think.

[Caller 2]

Great.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Great, great.

[Nicole Byer]

Got it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Nice.

[Nicole Byer]

Good. Should we do one more? Uno moth.

[Caller 2]

Hi, Cystir, Nicole. Y' all are beautiful. I'm gonna get right into it.

[Nicole Byer]

I was.

[Caller 2]

Had an ex. Let's call him Bud. We were together on and off for about six years. I lived with his mom for some of the time. His family felt like my family. We loved each other a whole, whole lot, like twin shadow situation. We eventually broke up because we weren't romantically aligning anymore. But our friendship was hugely important to us. So romantic love evolved into deep friendship. I moved away, but we remained really close. And when we both started dating other people, our partners, like, knew the score. This was family. And he was very integral in my life. One of my partners even met Bud's family, as if, you know, they were my extended family. Bud started dating somebody. I love calling him Bud. It's so weird. Bud started dating someone who has massive trust issues from, I guess, her past. But she definitely had an issue with our friendship. She was super not okay with Bud meeting my partner. And I remember that her insecurities were. They eventually led to getting our visit cut short. And I hadn't seen Bud in two years. This was during lockdown. It was really hard. Yada, yada, yada, though they got much closer. And last year, he called to say that the only point of friction in his and her relationship was his and my friendship. And therefore, he needed to close the door to our friendship. And it felt like half of my world went dark. I swear, he was the one constant thing in my life that made me feel like I was home no matter where I was in the world. I mean, it was a deep friendship that felt horrible. And I later found out they got engaged. Soon after he called me. Okay, so the question I have, this is the crux of it. Thank you for bearing with me. Okay. Week ago, almost exactly a year after he called to end our Friendship. He called again to tell me that his dad passed away. And I loved his dad. This was someone who would still call me on my birthday even after we were not dating anymore. He just was an incredible person. And I unfortunately had to pull away from maintaining a distant relationship with the dad and the mom. Out of respect for Bud's boundaries. I reached out days after hearing the news to ask what his thoughts were about me coming to the funeral again. I want to Tris, so it gets.

[Jordan Kim]

Cut off for any listeners we have. Three minute. It's like three minutes, tops. You're allowed to leave a voicemail, so this one went a little longer. She leaves a following voicemail that basically just says she wanted to go to the funeral, but Bud said it would be best if she didn't. And she just. She's respecting that, but she just kind of feels like she's, like, losing her mind because she doesn't know if she's being unreasonable in how she feels, she's being reasonable, and this whole thing's kind of painful, and she doesn't know what to do do. So I think she just wants some encouragement slash insight, if we have it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, man.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah, that's some heavy shit. I. Do you have any thoughts initially, Sasheer?

[Sasheer Zamata]

I don't know. I mean, it's just sad.

[Nicole Byer]

It's just really sad.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And I feel like it would be nice if she could go to the funeral. I'm really glad Bud called her and told her that it happened because obviously he could. He still. He knows that that's. That she would want to know that that's important to her.

[Nicole Byer]

I. I missed why he wanted to close the friendship.

[Sasheer Zamata]

What was it he said that his partner.

[Nicole Byer]

Yes. Okay.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Like, didn't feel comfortable, but, like, that was, like, the last piece. Like, the only thing that's, like, in the way of, like, a great relationship is his friendship with the. Our caller. And so he had to end the friendship. And then. And then I guess right after they got engaged, because they were like, okay, did it.

[Nicole Byer]

We.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Our relationship's perfect now. There's no other issues other than that friend, which is, like, not true. But.

[Nicole Byer]

I think she could take solace in knowing that that woman is not a strong woman and doesn't trust Bud all the way because that's the only reason I can think of for having a man end a friendship with a woman. So I think you could take solace in that and that it is her, not him. Or at least I don't think it's him. I don't think you're being unreasonable about wanting to go to the funeral. No, I think it's a little unreasonable to not allow you to go to the funeral. I think that's like really cruel and unfair. So I think you should show up to the funeral and when Bud is speaking during the eulogy, you should go up to him and slap him. And then sit back down and say.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

You better keep my fucking name in your mouth when you talk about your dad or your family.

[Nicole Byer]

I'm sorry, I couldn't help it. It's my favorite story of 2020. My favorite movie was the Batman. My favorite incident is the slap. But genuinely, I do think it is okay. I think it's okay to. If the funeral hasn't happened yet, I think it's okay to call and be like, can I please come to either the wake or a part of the funeral so I can pay my respects. It is for me. It's not so I can see your family. It is so I can feel better and I can have closure with this death because it is not just your death. When someone dies, I understand how it feels personal. Like when my dad died, a lot of things felt very much like it's me who's suffering. But then I'd be like, oh, my sister exists, his siblings exist, his parents exist. So it's like we all have to figure out how we get to grieve together because he's not just for me.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Right.

[Nicole Byer]

I also think if the funeral has happened, you are within your, your like, rights or whatever to ask where his gravestone is or ask where his ashes have been spread. So you can leave flowers, say what you want, and grieve the way you want to grieve because it's not fair.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah, that's good. And yeah, I think making it like, you know, this is for me, it would, yeah, it would make me feel like connected to this person again that I did love for years. Hopefully your friend would understand. But I think maybe it sounded like a fear based reply, like, oh, I don't want my, my wife to see you. But it's just like I would hope it's a funeral. It's not. Yeah, a part. It's not your birthday party. But even still. Yeah, I don't like the, I don't.

[Nicole Byer]

Like anyone saying you can't be friends with someone. I think that's toxic.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah. And like that. I mean, it just sucks that this person would be so insecure about their relationship that they're cutting, they're making them cut people out of their life.

[Nicole Byer]

Mm.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And people that they clearly love like that.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Have been in their life for years. Um. Yeah. I don't know. But then you can't. Yeah. That's up to. That's their relationship. That's up to Bud and his wife. There's nothing you can do to change that. They made their decision. But.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah. And I also think it might be good for you to mourn your relationship with Bud, because that has come to a close, and you owe it to yourself to grieve that. One of the great things my therapist said was, like, all relationships are helpful. All of them teach you, and you are allowed to grieve them no matter how long or short they are. And it does suck that this person's not going to be in your life long term, but you can celebrate the times that you did have together, but it is a part of your heart. I think you need to protect and not think too much about it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah. Also, we don't actually know what conversations Bud had with his wife. We don't know what the wife saw that made her think that, oh, this is actually not a relationship I want him to keep. Because maybe Bud is, like, actually feeling. Feeling still like you guys dated and you guys became friends. But it's. I don't. I. I don't know a percentage. I don't know if there's been studies on this, but, like, I don't know how many friendships post relationship are actually pure friendships. I think it's possible for sure. But it's also possible one person feels more like a friend than the other person. So who knows? We. And this is just like a me spitballing a different option out of here. I don't know. I don't actually think this is what's happening, but it could be. Maybe the wife was like, oh, shit. My man actually feels a different way than I. Than I see him feeling for other friends. For this particular friend, I need to nip this in the bud. Or maybe he said something. Maybe he's like, I don't. I don't know. I like keeping her around because I love her. But, like. And he. Maybe he didn't even realize. Oh, no. It's maybe actually a different kind of love that I need to only have for my wife.

[Nicole Byer]

I. Yeah. And I think either option really sucks. And I think. I don't know. I never want to be in a relationship where I can't trust my man. Like, if my man is in love with somebody else, as much as it hurts me and as much as I might protest and as much as I might scream, go to that person. Do you know what I mean? Don't string me along. That's why, like, I don't think I'll ever be like, you can't be friends with so and so. Although when I do start dating someone, they're not allowed to be friends with women ever.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Can't look at a woman and can't think about women.

[Nicole Byer]

No women. If you ever say a woman's attractive, I will. What?

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Slap you with my hand and scream, keep your eyes off that fucking woman.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Because yeah, if someone cheat, they're going to cheat.

[Nicole Byer]

No, no, keep going. I didn't mean to cut you off.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Okay, I was going to say if someone's gonna cheat, they're gonna cheat. You being paranoid and protecting them and giving them rules isn't gonna stop that. So you may as well just like, let them live. And if it happens, then you have your answer and you can make decisions from there. But keeping a tight grip is not going to prevent anything.

[Nicole Byer]

No, not at all. They gonna go where they wanna go. They wanna fuck a man with a a month for a name. They gonna do it. August. Oh, wow.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Damn.

[Nicole Byer]

It's deeply rooted in my brain.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Never left.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

I cannot talk about anything else.

[Nicole Byer]

Well, if you would like advice words.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Solely on the slap.

[Nicole Byer]

If you want to hear me give.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

You advice based on Will Smith slapping Chris Rock. You guys, I can't believe it happened. Two living legends. One.

[Nicole Byer]

One will enter and one will slap. Okay, so you can email nicoleand sashir gmail.com or you can call us or text us. 424-645-7003.

[Sasheer Zamata]

We also have [e-mail] best friends.

[Nicole Byer]

We also have what? A live show this Sunday, April 3rd at 8:30pm Go to largo-la.com for more details.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And don't you dare get on the stage and try to slap us. Don't you dare. Don't you.

[Nicole Byer]

If you fucking do it, I will lose my mind. But Sasheer, I may ask you to reenact this. Laugh with me and I might ask you to learn the script. Like the lines, word for word. I really want to play Will Smith, but I'm happy to play Chris Rock if you would like. I'm not really picky on the role. Happy just to just to be cast.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I want to be Lupita. Just a gas like lastly, don't forget to rate, review and subscribe. That's the easiest way to support this show.

[Nicole Byer]

Yes, and the easiest way to support Will Smith is by letting him keep his Oscar and getting him a tremendous amount of therapy.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

That's it. Roving reporters from the 49th annual Oscars.

[Nicole Byer]

I have no idea what year this of Oscars. I don't know if the 49th or.

[Sasheer Zamata]

The 50th, I think it's like. Or the 106th.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

I don't know. Signing off from live coverage of the 62nd annual Oscars, it's Toshir Zabayda and Nicole Byer. Good night, abc. I love you.

[Nicole Byer]

I think it was on abc.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It was okay.

[Kimmy Gatewood]

Good night.