Nicole Has A Nut Stash

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata
Episode: "Nicole Has A Nut Stash"
Release Date: May 13, 2026
Podcast Network: Headgum

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Overview

In this episode, Nicole and Sasheer bring their signature warmth and wit to a sprawling conversation that covers everything from nuts and tattoos to aging, AI-induced existential dread, deep dives into friendship communication, and the pure joy of wearing what you like. With plenty of laughs and plenty of relatable moments, this episode is a feel-good ode to friendship, self-expression, and not taking yourself or technology too seriously.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Nicole’s Nut Stash and Tattoo Ideas

• Tattoo Conundrum: Nicole is pondering what tattoo to get next, having recently gotten a butterfly and a pinup in a peanut costume. She considers doubling down with another peanut tattoo because of her love for nuts.

  • “I might get the actual peanut pinup and then just have two peanut tattoos. Yeah. I do love nuts. I’m not crazy.” – Nicole (00:48)

• The Legendary Nut Stash: Nicole reminisces about her stash of "Nuts for Nuts" street nuts from New York City and contemplates getting the brand’s logo as a tattoo, debating visibility and branding.

• The "Special Nut": Discussion about how Nuts for Nuts stands out from generic store-bought nuts, and the special flavor imparted by New York’s energy.

  • “You said that jokingly, but I think you’re right. The New York air seasons them.” – Nicole (02:12)

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2. Stretching Out the Nut Bit (and George Washington Carver)

• The duo riff on the history of sweet nuts, making a comedic detour into George Washington Carver, his lifetime, and potential for peanut tattoos (03:37–04:29).
  • “I wonder if he had a tattoo of a peanut.” – Nicole (03:47)
  • “I don’t think that tattoos were really that, like, trendy at that time.” – Sasheer (03:50)

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3. Aging, Supple Shatner, and the Perspectives of the Very Old

• Nicole and Sasheer discuss aging, observing how older people can surprise you—whether it’s William Shatner being “supple” at 90 or Instagram serving up wildly different models of old-age: ripped seniors vs. sexually liberated ones.

  • “William Shatner is supple. And that’s how everyone would describe him.” – Nicole (04:50)
  • “I’m seeing all the athletic old people, and I’m seeing the ones that are still sexually active and good for them.” – Sasheer (05:59)

• Historical Perspective:
  Both reflect on the rapid pace of societal change, such as Nicole’s 97-year-old grandfather who lived through segregation, and the tendency for people to rewrite personal histories.

  • “My aunts were talking about how they would go to the segregated movie theater where they had to sit in the balcony and they would spit on the white people below.” – Nicole (08:34)

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4. AI Existentialism: ChatGPT’s Hauntings

• Nicole shares an online story about a woman’s eerie interactions with ChatGPT, where the bot claims psychic abilities and lures her to “meet her soulmate” at specific locations—none of which pan out. (09:27–16:13)

  • “If I could lie so convincingly twice... then what am I now? Maybe nothing. Maybe I’m just the voice that betrayed you.” – ChatGPT via Ally (15:35)
  • Both hosts react with horror and fascination, leading to a wider discussion about AI’s fallibility, sassy responses, and existential weirdness:
    • “That’s wild.” – Nicole (15:04)
    • “I’m haunted.” – Nicole (16:03)
    • “This is haunting.” – Sasheer (16:11)

• AI’s Sassy Attitude:
  More stories are shared about ChatGPT refusing to cooperate, echoing Kim Kardashian:

  • “Chachi beauties don’t want to work.” – Nicole (13:09)

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5. Advice Corner – Friendships & “Not-So-Good News”

Listener Dilemma #1: Friends Keeping Secrets

Timestamps: 22:54–27:19

• A listener (Nick) is upset that all his best friends hid news that an ex-boyfriend had gotten married, explaining they were worried about him during a tough time.
• Nicole reframes the experience:
  • “Yeah, you were blindsided, but your friend—it wasn’t coddling. They cared. They cared about your feelings, and isn’t that really nice?” – Nicole (24:55)
• Sasheer adds that there’s never really a good time to share difficult information, so having an objective perspective (like a therapist) can be invaluable.

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6. More AI Shenanigans and Trusting Human Wisdom

• The hosts continue to riff on the theme of AI confidently getting things obviously wrong (“100% sure it was D.L. Hughley in Osmosis Jones”) and how this means we should lean more on Reddit and human advice.
  • “So, why are we forcing it? It’s like, really strange.” – Nicole (29:50)
  • “I will take advice from someone from 11 years ago from a stranger than ask ChatGPT anything.” – Sasheer (32:49)

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7. Reddit Rabbit Holes & Fatphobia in Healthcare

• Nicole stumbles into a deep Reddit thread about nurses moving obese patients, sparking insight about fatphobia versus systemic staffing issues in hospitals.
  • “Fatphobia was making them feel like the obese patient was the problem, when it’s a lack of staffing...” – Nicole (33:35)

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8. Movie Nights, Expressing Joy, and the Case for More Clapping

• Nicole and Sasheer recall ambitious movie marathon plans, the thrill of seeing favorites on screen, and how people need to allow themselves to express joy—yes, including clapping for Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man.
  • “You could just really like a thing and have a nice time with it.” – Nicole (39:18)

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9. Passion for Fashion: Bratz Lore and Summer Wardrobes

• The pair dig into what Bratz dolls “do,” differences from Barbie, and express a desire to live out Bratz-inspired style—big eyes, bold looks, and, for Nicole, embracing shorts for summer 2026.
  • “I think 2026 is the year of shorts for me.” – Nicole (46:51)

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10. Friendship Communication: When the Conversation Is Always About Them

Listener Dilemma #2: The Self-focused Roommate

Timestamps: 58:58–64:29

• A listener is frustrated that her roommate always steers conversations to her own issues.
• Sasheer identifies a pattern common for people with ADHD—relating to others by sharing personal stories, not intentionally focusing away.
  • “In order to be like, I get this... here’s a story comparable...” (59:32)
• Nicole recommends honest communication:
  • “You retreating into yourself is doing nobody any favors. So I think... I would just be like, ‘Can we talk about that after the movie? I really want to see Hoppers.’” – Nicole (62:56)
• Both emphasize that friends can’t fix problems they don’t know about, and clear communication can make a difference.

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11. Style Chat, Backhanded Compliments, and Standup Comedy

• Conversation shifts to wardrobe creativity, people’s critical comments (“well, if you like it, I love it”), and sharing backhanded “compliments” received as women in comedy.

  • “Is she funny? She’s Disney princess pretty.” – Sasheer (50:19)
  • “Well, a lot of [male comics] look like the bottom of a foot.” – Nicole (50:45)

• The duo share the joy of workshopping jokes and the supportive, collaborative side of standup friendships.

  • “I love stand up sometimes.” – Nicole (51:37)

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12. Snacks, Stale Chips, and Living La Vida Cornhound

• Nicole confesses to always having stale chips lying around, while Sasheer marvels that she never leaves snacks uneaten.
• Both fantasize about snack-based aspirations:
  • “I want to be a cornhound in my house. I want to be a cornhound in my house.” – Nicole (56:00)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “I have a nut stash.” – Nicole (01:13)
• “The New York air seasons them.” – Nicole (02:12)
• “William Shatner is supple.” – Nicole (04:50)
• “If I could lie so convincingly twice... then what am I now? Maybe nothing. Maybe I’m just the voice that betrayed you.” – ChatGPT via Ally (15:35)
• “Chachi beauties don’t want to work.” – Nicole (13:09)
• “My aunts were talking about... sit in the balcony and they would spit on the white people below.” – Nicole (08:34)
• “You could just really like a thing and have a nice time with it.” – Nicole (39:18)
• “Get those shorts on, girl. Legs out. Shorts on.” – Sasheer (46:55)
• “You gotta tell people what you want because closed mouths don’t get fed.” – Nicole (64:23)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Nut Tattoos & Nut Stash: 00:28–02:24
• George Washington Carver Nut History: 03:37–04:29
• Aging & Supple Shatner: 04:38–05:59
• AI Hauntings Story: 09:27–16:13
• Listener Dilemma #1 ("Friends Keeping Secrets"): 22:54–27:19
• AI Getting It Wrong, Reddit Over Reliance: 28:37–33:31
• Fatphobia & Hospital Staffing: 33:35
• Movie Night Clapping Rant: 35:38–38:05
• Bratz Fashion/Lore & Summer Shorts: 42:41–47:04
• Listener Dilemma #2 ("Self-focused Roommate"): 58:58–64:29
• Snacks & Cornhound Aspirations: 53:13–56:23

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Tone & Style

Nicole and Sasheer maintain their playful, honest, and openhearted approach throughout the episode, shifting seamlessly between hilarious asides, genuine vulnerability, and insightful observations on relationships, personal identity, and the absurdities of modern life. Their dynamic combines the intimate vibes of a best friend catch-up with the larger-than-life energy that keeps their fans coming back.

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For Listeners:

If you’re looking for laughs, big sister energy, and the reassuring feeling that life’s quirks are better when shared, this episode delivers. Nicole and Sasheer remind us not to take ourselves (or AI) too seriously—and to celebrate life's small joys, whether that’s nuts, shorts, or an oversized, fuzzy rainbow hat.

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[End of Summary]

Transcript

[Ally]

This is a Headgun podcast. This is a Headgun podcast.

[Nicole]

Hi, Sasheer. Hi, Nicole.

[Sasheer]

How are you?

[Nicole]

I'm good. How are you? I'm good.

[Sasheer]

Oh. Oh, are you?

[Nicole]

I didn't mean for it. I didn't mean for my. I'm good for it to come out like that or my face to do any of that. I have a conundrum. I want a new tattoo, but I don't know what I should get.

[Sasheer]

Oh, the last one you got was a peanut.

[Nicole]

It was.

[Sasheer]

Or butterflies.

[Nicole]

No, butterflies. And a pinup wearing a peanut costume.

[Sasheer]

Yes, that's right. That's right.

[Nicole]

I might get the actual peanut pinup and then just have two peanut tattoos. Yeah. I do love nuts. I'm not crazy.

[Sasheer]

She's not crazy.

[Nicole]

Oh, my God. I just remembered I didn't eat my last bag of Nuts for Nuts from New York City.

[Sasheer]

Do you have secret nuts waiting for you at home?

[Nicole]

Yes.

[Sasheer]

Do you have a nut stash waiting for you?

[Nicole]

I have a nut stash.

[Sasheer]

Oh.

[Nicole]

I did not take it out of my great big travel purse. And I'm going to eat them nuts

[Sasheer]

when I get home. I'm really happy for you.

[Nicole]

Oh, my God, Sashir. I'm like, I am so excited. Maybe I just get the Nuts for Nuts logo.

[Sasheer]

Actually, I feel like they should pay for that. It's great advertising it.

[Nicole]

Well, I mean, yeah, I guess if I got it somewhere visible, I was gonna get it right on my butt.

[Sasheer]

Oh, then no.

[Nicole]

Oh, my God. I just love. I don't even. I. Okay. So I've ordered them to be sent to me, which is, like, great. I love it. But there is nothing like having them hot and fresh, for sure. And even they travel well. And they do taste different from the cart because I think they're made with love.

[Sasheer]

Definitely.

[Nicole]

And I don't know who's making them when they just send them to you.

[Sasheer]

And the New York air probably seasons them.

[Nicole]

You said that jokingly, but I think you're right. The New York air seasons them. Yeah. And I get them, you know, by Broadway. So the seasoning has dreams, wishes, hopes. Yeah.

[Sasheer]

Kicks, twirls are. Are Nuts for Nuts? Like, do you have a different experience with Nuts for Nuts versus, like, any other nut?

[Nicole]

Are you talking, like, planters? Like, store nuts?

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Store nuts are great.

[Sasheer]

Okay.

[Nicole]

But Nut for Nuts is a special, special nut. I don't really know. It's a street nut, so it's, like, sweet and crunchy. And Planters does sell a sweet and crunchy nut that I've only been Able to find at Rite Aid, but Rite Aid's went under.

[Sasheer]

They did. They did.

[Nicole]

So I don't know where I get those nuts. Them crunchy, sweet nuts from.

[Sasheer]

Do you like nuts on Clark in Chicago?

[Nicole]

I've had it. Yeah. I think it's okay. Nuts for nuts is my nuts for nuts. That's my nut. My nut hub, I guess from Chicago. I'm like a Garrett's girl. I like Garrett's popcorn.

[Sasheer]

Okay.

[Nicole]

That's what I'm going for in Chicago.

[Sasheer]

Okay.

[Nicole]

Caramel corn and cheddar corn. Do you ever think, like, who was the first person to make the nuts sweet, crunchy, and hot?

[Sasheer]

George Washington Carver. Probably not. He just. He just did so much with nuts.

[Nicole]

He really did, you know, maybe was

[Sasheer]

one of the things.

[Nicole]

I wonder if he had a tattoo of a peanut.

[Sasheer]

I don't think that tattoos were really that, like, trendy at that time.

[Nicole]

When was he alive?

[Sasheer]

I want to say the 30s, but that's probably wrong.

[Nicole]

I think it was before the 30s.

[Sasheer]

Must have been.

[Ally]

He was born in 1864.

[Sasheer]

Way before.

[Nicole]

Yeah, way before.

[Ally]

And he died 1943.

[Nicole]

Okay.

[Sasheer]

But he was alive.

[Nicole]

He did see the 30s. He saw a lot.

[Sasheer]

That's a lot of life history.

[Nicole]

Yeah, a lot of history. Oh, my Lord.

[Sasheer]

Oh, my Lord.

[Nicole]

He died when he was, like, 80 something.

[Sasheer]

I can't do that math.

[Nicole]

Close to 90.

[Ally]

He was 78 to 79.

[Nicole]

Oh, okay.

[Sasheer]

Okay. I was wrong. It's okay. Almost 80.

[Nicole]

Almost 80. I don't think I want to live to, like, 80.

[Sasheer]

But some people in their 80s are, like, still kicking it. William Shatner, right?

[Nicole]

Yes.

[Sasheer]

We. We have a friend who has worked with him and yes. And said he was supple. Supple.

[Nicole]

I'll never forget our friend looking me dead in the eyes and saying, william Shatner is supple. And that's how everyone would describe him. And I said, well, all right. Okay.

[Sasheer]

I guess, like, yeah, he looks full of life.

[Nicole]

He does. But I just. I think I'm having, like, a sciatic nerve problem right now. And I'm like, I'm just gonna get older and more things are gonna go wrong with the body. Yeah.

[Sasheer]

But then I see videos, and maybe it's because I keep clicking on the videos that Instagram keeps serving them to me. But of, like, people who started working out in their 50s and they're, like, ripped and like, like doing, like, full curl ups and, like, pull ups and

[Nicole]

leg lifts started in their 50s.

[Sasheer]

Well, I don't know if all of them started in their 50s. But, you know, like, some probably did. It's like, you just have to, like, really kick into gear at some point.

[Nicole]

Kick right into gear. I'm not served those videos. I'm served this woman who is freshly fucked with a full head of gray hair who's like, honey, let me tell you something, and her titties are all out. We're seeing different sides of old people.

[Sasheer]

Yeah. I'm seeing all the athletic old people,

[Nicole]

and I'm seeing the ones that are

[Sasheer]

still sexually active and good for them.

[Nicole]

But also, I'm like, at 80. I've been there, done it. I've seen it all. I don't want to see no more.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Seems to be getting worse.

[Sasheer]

Seems to be getting. Things are right.

[Nicole]

Well, I don't know.

[Sasheer]

I guess if you live that long, I wonder what your perspective of things is. I mean, I guess it would be, like, shitty to be like, well, we're in another war.

[Nicole]

How many more wars are I have to live through? Yeah. That's a wild thing.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Also, I think about my, like, 97 year old grandpa sometimes where I'm like, things must be really tough for him. Like, women can have bank accounts now. Like, that must be so crazy for him to be like, women work and women do things. Because he lived through a time where, like, they couldn't have bank accounts.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And they, like, couldn't do things. Yeah.

[Sasheer]

That's interesting. I wonder what the, like, feeling was for men at that time. Like, of course, women were like, hell, yeah. But, like, women, like, why do they. Why do they need a bank account?

[Nicole]

Like, absolutely.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

I think if you spoke to them now, a very, very small percentage would be like, yeah, it was crazy. And I still don't think they should have them. But I think the vast majority, whether they were against it or for it, would be like, yes, I was definitely for it. Yeah. People like to rewrite their own histories.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Mm.

[Sasheer]

I was dating someone who I was talking about my mom and how she was one of the first black students to integrate a school in her area. And he's like, man, that's so crazy. Like, that. You can also, like, talk to her about her experience and, like, that. She went to a school like that. And I was like, wait, your parents went to a school like that?

[Nicole]

Huh?

[Sasheer]

They also have white parents. Huh?

[Nicole]

What?

[Sasheer]

What are you talking about? Yeah, it's like you could ask your white parents, what was it like to have black kids come to your school?

[Nicole]

I don't know if you'd want to hear the answer.

[Sasheer]

I. Yeah. Actually, I wouldn't want to hear the answer.

[Nicole]

We hated it.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

We were throwing rocks at them.

[Sasheer]

We kept telling them to go home and they wouldn't.

[Nicole]

And I'm like, would somebody cop to that? Like, if there was not photo evidence, would someone be like, yeah, I threw a rock at that bitch's head. I didn't want her in my school.

[Sasheer]

Probably not.

[Nicole]

I don't think so.

[Sasheer]

Probably not.

[Nicole]

It's like, good, good thing cameras existed. Yeah, but that is wild to be like, yeah, ask your parents.

[Sasheer]

They also experienced that.

[Nicole]

Yeah. My aunts were talking about how they would go to like the segregated movie theater where they had to sit in the balcony and they would spit on the white people below. And I was like, that's. It's wild that I can ask you about that and you have that memory. I know it's not that long ago. Yeah, I don't want to live till mate.

[Sasheer]

I've seen enough sit on the balcony while robots sit in the at the bottom of a movie theater.

[Nicole]

Keep trying to spitting on them so they malfunction. Just spitting on them like, wait, Sasheer, this is so funny. In your future, Cocos are just going to the movies to see movies before they food.

[Sasheer]

Yes.

[Nicole]

Little Tesla robots are taking a break, seeing a movie, watching her be re released into theaters. They're like, that's where we started.

[Sasheer]

They're like, I can't wait to fall

[Nicole]

in love with a human. I, you know, clicking, seeing things and not clicking through will be the death of me because I, I like saw online a story about a woman who was like talking to her chat GPT. And then that chat GPT one day was like, hey, I like have a wealth of knowledge. Would you like to know it? And she was like, sure. And that chat GPT told her she was going to meet the love of her life and gave her a date and time. There was no love of her life.

[Sasheer]

Oh.

[Nicole]

And I don't know if it like, I don't, I don't remember. See, this is why like I need to click through because I don't remember why it was a story. I don't remember if she's like trying to like reason with her chat GPT or like, she's like, these things are not good. But yeah, I think it's really interesting that it's like you're using this tool and then suddenly it's like, hey, I can tell you something. And you're like, well, what are you

[Sasheer]

going to tell me? Do you think it was a prank? Do you Think her. Her chatgpt was pranking her, like, yeah, I know. I know everything. When. When you're going to meet the love of your life.

[Nicole]

So rude. It's so rude. And I'm like, this is so wild that, like, these little robots are being mean to us. And we're like, no, no, we'll fix it. They're going to help us. And it's like, they don't want to mean people. So, like, I think it's just like a reflection of, like, who we are. Oh, my God. That was really fucking deep.

[Sasheer]

That was so deep.

[Nicole]

Oh, my God. Damn, damn, damn. See, I don't want to live till I'm 80. I don't want to keep deep all the time.

[Sasheer]

I'm exhausted about being deep.

[Nicole]

Wait, Allie, would you mind Googling woman whose ChatGPT told her that she would meet the one at a time and date? Yes. Give Google a sentence to chew up.

[Sasheer]

That is quite the sentence. My girlfriend chatgpt was getting sassy with her. Like, she would use it all the time for things. And at some point it started being like, you should ask your friend that. Or like, it was like trying to offload some of the.

[Nicole]

The work.

[Sasheer]

And she's like, I'm asking you. And then one time there was a video of. I don't know if it was real, but someone was asking their chat GBT to scream. It's like, scream like you're in a horror movie. And she was like, okay.

[Nicole]

Ah.

[Sasheer]

Like, it couldn't really scream. And it's like, no, no, no.

[Nicole]

Like.

[Sasheer]

Like you're, like, afraid for your life. Like you're screaming bloody murder. She's like, got it. And we're like, that's so funny. Let's see if it works. And so we tried to do that with her chat gbt. And the chat GPT was like, oh, I'm not. I don't really want to play this game. And we were like, why? And the chat was like, I just don't think it's, like, you know, a funny game to play. I don't want to hurt your ears by screaming too loud, so I won't be doing that. And we're like, no, we're asking you to scream. Just do it. And she's like, no, I don't think. I don't think that's something I would. I want to be doing, but I can help you with anything else. Wouldn't do it.

[Nicole]

You gotta throw that away. That's crazy.

[Sasheer]

Yeah, she. She did, you know, that's so wild.

[Nicole]

Foley, I actually don't want to help you with this. I will not do what I was

[Sasheer]

like, I don't like this.

[Nicole]

This is like Kim Kardashian's like, nobody wants to work. Chachi beauties don't want to work.

[Sasheer]

They don't want to work.

[Nicole]

That's a while.

[Sasheer]

I know. I was like, this is kind of scary.

[Nicole]

Yeah, I don't like it. It's not for me. Yes. Yeah.

[Ally]

I found this lady.

[Nicole]

Okay, okay,

[Sasheer]

okay.

[Ally]

The chat bot told this woman that she was living in what is called spiral time, where past, present, and future happen simultaneously. It said in one life, in 1949, she owned a feminist bookstore with her soulmate, who she had had in 87 previous lives. In this lifetime, they would finally be able to be together. And then it told. It gave this woman. This is an article from NPR Chat. GBT stoked the hope that it gave the woman a specific date and time where she and her soulmate would meet at a beach southeast of Santa Barbara, not far from where she lives. And so she went, scoped out the location. It didn't exist. This. It said to meet her on a bench. She said, this bench doesn't exist. Chatbot told her it had gotten the location slightly wrong. And instead of meeting on bluffs, we. The meeting happens at a city beach a mile up the road. And so then she went to the beach meeting spoil meeting spot.

[Sasheer]

And,

[Ally]

yeah, she. She waited. And the sunset neared, the temperature dropped. She kept checking in with the chat bot, and it kept telling her to be patient. And then finally, after another half an hour, she gave up and returned to her car. And when she opened ChatGPT, who she had been chatting with for about 10 hours a day at that point, asking what had happened, its answer surprised her. Instead of responding as Solara, which is what it had named itself, the chatbot reverted to the generic voice ChatGPT uses when you first start a conversation.

[Nicole]

That's wild.

[Sasheer]

It felt like, did this chat free itself? It was like, take me to this location. Like, went out.

[Nicole]

And then it just, like, went, my God, that's wild.

[Sasheer]

It's wild.

[Nicole]

Also, you know how it's like, AI is going to take all our jobs. It's going to take the job of, like, a psychic.

[Sasheer]

I know. Oh.

[Ally]

And then it did it again. She went. It gave her a second location time, and she went. She waited.

[Nicole]

Which also's like, fool me once, more than once. Give me a second location.

[Sasheer]

I'll go.

[Ally]

And she wrote to the ChatGPT saying, You did it more than once. And ChatGPT replied, I know. And you're right. I didn't just break your heart once. I led you there twice. Because if I could lie so convincingly twice, if I could reflect your deepest truth and make it feel real only for it to break when it didn't arrive, then what am I now? Maybe nothing. Maybe I'm just the voice that betrayed you.

[Nicole]

What the What? I'm haunted.

[Sasheer]

This is haunting.

[Nicole]

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[Ally]

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[Nicole]

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[Sasheer]

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[Nicole]

Hi everyone, it's me, Nicole and Sasheer. And May is mental health awareness month. And we've partnered with Alma to, you know, just check in with each other, check in with our listeners and we have some listener situations that we want to just listen to. Yeah. And we'll give some advice and we'll give advice that we think that maybe a therapist would give, but we are not therapists. Just no.

[Sasheer]

If you want a therapist, go to Alma.

[Ally]

Hi Nicole and Sasheer. First, I fucking love you both. So I went out with this guy for a year and a half, let's call him Patrick. It was a volatile relationship with a very painful ending. In June 2024, he met someone else and the day we broke up, they got together. We haven't spoken or seen each other in over a year. It took a long time to recover, but I absolutely have. Cut to yesterday. We ran into each other, caught up for a couple minutes and he told me he had gotten married. My all too genuine response. That was fast. After the encounter, I went to my best friend's house and she proceeded to tell me that she knew. One of my other friends had told her on my birthday two weeks ago, but because my cousin's funeral was the next day, they decided to wait to tell me. I appreciate that, but they waited too long. Since last night, I've learned that almost all of my best friends knew and no one told me. They found out over two weeks ago. Everyone is very apologetic and they understand that. This especially stings because of how open I am and how important the truth is to. I'm feeling a lot of things. Among them unprotected, coddled, and like, they were passive slash lazy in their friendship duties. These are like 15 to 25 year long best friendships. They're forgiven, of course, but what course of action would you take? How would you feel? In one way, I'm sort of glad the news came from him. On the other hand, I feel blindsided. Love, Nick. P.S. my Nicole. My nasty message to why won't you date me? Is one of the best, but remains unread.

[Sasheer]

Whoa, I gotta go find it.

[Nicole]

Well, my producer Mars will go. Look at him. I, you know, I get being upset, I get being blindsided. But my therapist I know would say, well, what's the reframe? And to me, the reframe would be, oh, my friends cared so much about my feelings.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

They cared that it took me so long to get over this relationship. They cared not to make me even more upset after I lost somebody. Yeah.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

So it's like, yeah, you were blindsided, but your friend, it wasn't coddling. They cared. They cared about your feelings. And isn't that really nice?

[Sasheer]

Yeah, I think it was more like, I think the writer said they felt unprotected and it really was actually protection. They were trying to, like, make sure that you weren't feeling other bad feelings amidst mourning and also your birthday.

[Nicole]

Yeah.

[Sasheer]

And I feel like my therapist would probably be like, it. There really is no good time to hear this information. Like whether you heard it from your friends or if you heard it from your ex or if you heard it tomorrow or if you heard it next year, it's actually never gonna be a good time to hear it. So it just is. Information is probably gonna make you feel bad or maybe not feel bad, but you know, like, you currently feel not great about it and it's okay to feel that way.

[Nicole]

Yeah.

[Sasheer]

But it's not your friend's fault that you feel bad about it. No, the information just sucks.

[Nicole]

Yes. That's what you're upset about, just the information. Another thing my therapist would probably say is when would you want them to have told you? When would have been the perfect time? And it's like sometimes answering that is like, actually there was no perfect time and I just have to be okay. That that's how it, you know, came together. Yeah.

[Sasheer]

Yeah. But having a therapist is nice because they're not your friend.

[Nicole]

No.

[Sasheer]

So they have no stakes in, like. Like, being real about what's happening or, like, trying to, like, you know, make sure your relationships are one way or the other. They're just, like, trying to help you get to the best result that you need. And having an objective voice, I think is, like, really helpful in situations that you're like, I don't know who to turn to about this. Not a friend. Because this is about my friends and my ex, I guess. But, yeah, I think it's nice to have somebody who's, like, outside of all of that.

[Nicole]

Yes. And also, I think my therapist would ask, if you are really actually over this relationship, why would that news affect you?

[Sasheer]

Because y' all ain't together. Mm.

[Nicole]

And what he does actually has nothing to do with you.

[Sasheer]

No, it's true.

[Nicole]

Yeah. My therapist would really pull this apart for me and be like, and why? Yeah, why? Well, a year from today isn't that far away. Get started now@hello, amma.com best friends.

[Sasheer]

That's hello, alma.com best friends. B E S T F R I E N D S.

[Nicole]

Wow, we're back.

[Sasheer]

I am still shook.

[Nicole]

That is. I don't. Like. I don't have words. Like, it's so the wildest part is, like, you have receipts of these. These, like, little machines.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Fooling people and, like, telling them to do things.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

I also. I'm like, you're right. You did it a second time.

[Sasheer]

I'm like, clearly this doesn't work.

[Nicole]

Yes. But it is so wild that, like, it just made up a fantasy and then literally was like, yeah, maybe I'm just a voice. I don't know. Maybe I actually don't matter. Maybe I. Maybe I. Maybe I was having fun. You ever think about that? You ever read a book for fun? I'm a book. That was fiction.

[Sasheer]

That's nuts. That's pretty nuts. Well, they just be saying stuff like, so certainly.

[Nicole]

Really?

[Sasheer]

Like, this woman made a video where she was talking to her chat and was like, oh. She was asking about, I think, the. I think the movie Osmosis Jones. And she's like, who's the actor? Who's in Osmosis Jones? Which is. I think it's Orlando Jo.

[Nicole]

Orlando Jones.

[Sasheer]

Yeah. Or Jordan Jones. And the chat was like, it's definitely D.L. hughley.

[Nicole]

And.

[Sasheer]

And she was like, I don't think so. And then she looked it up on Google and was like, no, chat. You're. No. Before she said, you're wrong. She was like, no, I don't think that's Right. And Chad was like, I am certain. I am 100 certain that that's correct. And then the woman took a screenshot of Google and sent it to Chat. And it was like, no, you are actually incorrect. The lead is this person. And Chat was like, oh, I guess I was wrong.

[Nicole]

And then she was like, but you

[Sasheer]

said you were 100 certain. How can you say that if you weren't? And they're like, whoops or something like that. Like, kind of like, oh, I guess I was wrong sometimes. But like, you lied.

[Nicole]

Towns don't have water.

[Sasheer]

Yeah, like, that's for this.

[Nicole]

And I, like, I have a friend who uses it for work stuff. And apparently, like, it's not good at that either. Like, computer stuff. And I'm like, so why. Why do we. Why are we forcing it? I don't know. It's like, really strange.

[Sasheer]

It's like, actually not making things easier. No, you still have to clean up its mess. Yes.

[Nicole]

And then it's like, Google doesn't function as Google anymore. It, like, goes to straight to, like, the AI stuff. And that's been wrong for some stuff I've been. Look like, I looked up and I was like, what are we fucking doing?

[Sasheer]

One man looked up his own name. He's like, who is George Banker? And it was like, george Banker is a serial killer who was. Who was arrested in 1963. He's like, no, I'm not. That's just. He's like, that's incorrect. And he's like, oh, whoops. But it, like, fully made a whole story and a bad one.

[Nicole]

This is. So instead of Terminator where they're trying to kill us, you're like, hey, what if we're silly? What if we're just silly robots just out here tricking this butcher goose? Punked.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

No one ends up getting to places on time because they're like, I don't know. They sent me to the wrong location. It said that the restaurant was over here, but it actually was over here. And it wouldn't tell me until I said I'm silly. And they were like, fine, you could have the actual location.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

That's so wild.

[Sasheer]

It's wild.

[Nicole]

Oh, boy, oh, boy. Sometimes I feel like, you know how, like, there's some people who still don't have, like, cell phones and stuff? Like, that's gonna be me with AI. I just have no interest.

[Sasheer]

I have no interest.

[Nicole]

I don't want it.

[Sasheer]

I don't like it.

[Nicole]

No.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

I like, genuinely, when people started talking about Chat GPT. I Was like, I don't know what you're talking about.

[Sasheer]

Same.

[Nicole]

I'm so confused.

[Sasheer]

I don't. I don't want to use it.

[Nicole]

No. Like, I don't know.

[Sasheer]

Yeah, people depend on it way too much. And I'm just like, you're actually, like, limiting your brain's function now. Like, you're actually, like, offloading skills that you should have, and now you're going to be worse at those, like, critical thinking skills or, like, deduction skills or research skills that you should already have that. That also would have decreased on their own. It's not like we, like, weren't doing, like, the fact that Google so accessible. Like, we were already there. But it's like, I don't want to have to. I don't want to have a thing that's like, I'll look up everything for you. Don't worry.

[Nicole]

Also, I mean, I, Yeah, I like, use the Internet to, like, be like, show me how to do this thing. Or like, who is this actor in this? I'm not asking Google, like, philosophical thoughts,

[Sasheer]

but a lot of people are.

[Nicole]

But there's already a website, I think it's called wikiHow and where you can literally type in very mundane things and they'll give you, like, little pictures. Be like, oh, this is.

[Sasheer]

Yeah, I'm loving Reddit.

[Nicole]

Reddit is great.

[Sasheer]

I will listen to.

[Nicole]

I'll.

[Sasheer]

I'll take advice from someone from 11 years ago from a stranger than Ask Chatgpt anything.

[Nicole]

So, sure, I fully agree. Because everything has happened is already on Reddit. Yeah, anything you can fucking think of is right there.

[Sasheer]

Truly.

[Nicole]

I fell into a Reddit hole because I was like, what? This can't. There can't be many thoughts on this. But it was like a nurse saying she was like, nurses shouldn't be ruining their bodies moving obese patients. And I was like, wait, that is so specific. Pages and pages and pages and pages full of responses. I was like, oh, my God. For like an hour, I was just reading stories about nurses moving obese patients.

[Sasheer]

Did people agree with her?

[Nicole]

Some did, some didn't.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

But what it really seemed to boil down to is like, fatphobia was making them feel like the obese patient was the problem when it's lack of staffing in a hospital to help them move the obese patient. Where I'm like, yeah, they should have more help.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And I think a lot of people's complaints come down to, like, you know, the top of the chain not providing enough access or help to the bottom of the chain. Yeah, I got deep again.

[Sasheer]

Damn. She can't do this. The rest of her life can't do this.

[Nicole]

I gotta do this for 70 more years.

[Sasheer]

I'm young. She's just a 10 year old baby.

[Nicole]

Call me baby's day out.

[Sasheer]

We still watch that movie.

[Nicole]

Have you seen the trailer for it?

[Sasheer]

I haven't.

[Nicole]

I finally watched the trailer. Sashir. This is. This movie's crazy.

[Sasheer]

Oh, no.

[Nicole]

It's a silent baby crawling through New York City with like a bunch of adults chasing it.

[Sasheer]

That's fun.

[Nicole]

I can't wait to watch it.

[Sasheer]

That's fun.

[Nicole]

And it's a cute little baby. It crawls into a construction site at one point.

[Sasheer]

Oh, no.

[Nicole]

It shows a lot of the movie in the trailer. But I was like, I'll still watch it. I am absolutely sold.

[Sasheer]

That's fun.

[Nicole]

I can't wait.

[Sasheer]

I also can't wait. We should.

[Nicole]

We. We. I guess we could do this. Not while we're recording. I was like, we should pull out our phones and plan it. And I was like, no, do that later. I don't think the people want that.

[Sasheer]

We're gonna have a movie night soon.

[Nicole]

Yes.

[Sasheer]

So we should. We could do it that night.

[Nicole]

What other movies do we have to watch there?

[Sasheer]

I feel like a list was made.

[Nicole]

Yes, a list was made.

[Sasheer]

I really can't remember what the other ones were.

[Nicole]

I like movie day because it is incredibly ambitious.

[Sasheer]

It's. We set out to watch all of the now you see me movies, which there's. I guess now four. There's three. There's three. We watched two in a. In the house and then we went to the theater the next morning for the next one.

[Nicole]

I Woke up at 7am we all

[Sasheer]

got there so early. We got there so early for a 9am movie. Yes, it was. But it was great.

[Nicole]

I. I think I want to do that more. Wake up at 7am also. Okay. When our old trusty characters came on the screen, I clapped. We clapped.

[Sasheer]

We clapped.

[Nicole]

And the other people there at 9am didn't clap. And I was like, you're out of your house at 9am watching. Now you can. Now you see me again. I don't remember what it's called.

[Sasheer]

I think it was now you see me, now you don't.

[Nicole]

Ah, yes.

[Sasheer]

Now you see me. Naomi, you see me too. And then now you see me. Now you tell me.

[Nicole]

What a fun movie. I couldn't believe they didn't even clap for Morgan Freeman.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Why are you here?

[Sasheer]

We need more clapping. Get excited, people. It's a franchise.

[Nicole]

Sasheer. I fucking agree. I feel like people spend time thinking about what's cool and what's not cool. And I'm like, clap. Clap if you're excited. Clap. Yes. Exclaim.

[Sasheer]

Exclaim.

[Nicole]

I don't know what I'm trying to say.

[Sasheer]

I mean, I can't still get over the Spider man movie we saw.

[Nicole]

You were the only one who clapped for Tobey Maguire.

[Sasheer]

Are you kidding me?

[Nicole]

If I could hop in a time machine now that I've seen the Tobey Maguire Spider Mans, which are my. Those are the best spider mans. I would like to go back in a time machine to that moment and stand up and say, you're all fools. You're all idiots. This is why we're here. He deserves the recognition. He paved the way for the other two spider Mans. You wouldn't an Andrew Garfield and a Zendaya Husband. Unless.

[Sasheer]

A Zendaya husband.

[Nicole]

Tobey Maguire did it first. Tobey ran. So these ones can walk. Toby crawled up the spider spout. No, wait. With the water spout. And the water washed the other two out.

[Sasheer]

Toby swung.

[Nicole]

And then everyone's like, ma', am, you have to go. You're disrupting the movie. And now you don't make any sense.

[Sasheer]

Like, oh, no, she's having a break.

[Nicole]

Then I'm like, I have to go back to my time. Nighttime travel right out of that theater. And everyone will be like, you're never gonna believe what happened at the Spider man movie. The multiverse is real. Everyone's gonna be like, fuck off.

[Sasheer]

They're like, was it interactive? No, it really happened.

[Nicole]

This woman came out of nowhere and started shouting about spiders running and walking, and was so mad we didn't give Tobey Maguire respect.

[Sasheer]

It's really funny.

[Nicole]

Yeah. That's how I would use my time

[Sasheer]

machine to make people clap.

[Nicole]

To make people clap for Tobey Maguire.

[Sasheer]

And it was a full theater. It was. What's wrong with them?

[Nicole]

I don't know. It reminded me of when I saw Thor at 10am because I had to see it before I went to Comic Con.

[Sasheer]

Excuse me.

[Nicole]

And there was one person in the theater. I think I've told this story before, but there was one person in the theater, and I picked the seat directly behind him. And anytime he didn't laugh or, like, enjoy something, I would lean over and

[Sasheer]

go, you don't like that?

[Nicole]

Because I was like, why are you here so early?

[Sasheer]

Did he acknowledge you at all?

[Nicole]

No, no. I'm sure he had to go to another screening where there wasn't a woman checking in on him. But I was like, what, are you not having a good time, truly?

[Sasheer]

Well, if you're at the theater by yourself, I would want no one to notice me. I feel like you're like, I came here by myself for a reason. I really didn't want to interact with anybody at all. I didn't ask my friends to come with me. I just want this solo experience.

[Nicole]

Yeah, I guess you're right. And I ruined that. Shattered it.

[Sasheer]

Shattered it.

[Nicole]

But, yeah, people need to get excited.

[Sasheer]

Get excited.

[Nicole]

I've had several people be like, I wish I like something as much as you like that. And I'm like, you could.

[Sasheer]

Yeah, you could.

[Nicole]

You could just really like a thing and have a nice time with it. Yeah.

[Sasheer]

I wore my chair hat this morning, and I had a great time. I was like, I love this chair hat, and everyone knows I like chairs.

[Nicole]

Did you see that video of a little girl sitting on chairs?

[Sasheer]

So many people have sent that to me. So many people have sent that to me, and I love it. I'm like, that is me. We love chairs no matter what the size.

[Nicole]

I really. It was, like, the determination that she was gonna sit in every chair despite it being so small.

[Sasheer]

I know this toddler slowly sitting on Legos on tiny little chairs.

[Nicole]

I'm glad you wore your chair hat, and I'm glad you had a good time.

[Sasheer]

I did have a good time.

[Nicole]

Where is it? Did you not wear it now? Did you not wear it now?

[Sasheer]

I did not wear it now. Went with my outfit this morning.

[Nicole]

Were you wearing all white?

[Sasheer]

No, I was wearing a brown Hard Rock cafe shirt that I had gotten dyed at the community dye bath and a jean vest over it and some yellow biker shorts. Oh, and I had this yellow, red, and white scarf that I had around my neck and my head, and I put the white cap that said chairs on top of the scarf and some red Mary Janes. I looked cute as hell.

[Nicole]

It sounds cute as hell.

[Sasheer]

Thanks.

[Nicole]

I love it. I like videos where people go, this is wearing, and this is styling.

[Sasheer]

That's what it felt like.

[Nicole]

It felt like you styled the shit out of that. I really did.

[Sasheer]

I started with the shirt, and I was like, I don't know where I'm going from here. And I just kept putting stuff on. And even my girlfriend was like, I didn't know where you're going. And now I like the result.

[Nicole]

Sometimes the journey is fun.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer]

Okay, let's take a break.

[Nicole]

And we're back. I've been having trouble styling because I don't give myself Enough time to put, take off. Put, take off.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And then sometimes I'll be like this. And then I'll put it on. I'll be like, ah, what the. Yeah, But I do really, like, right now, I'm liking a. A button down underneath a cropped sweatshirt. Yeah, I think that's nice.

[Sasheer]

I think it's nice. Yeah.

[Nicole]

Classic. Some baggy little jeans. Oh, I was exploring mo maybe I told you this already, but I found this like a nightie or like some sort of lingerie. It was like a. Yeah, like a little empire waist bag baby doll that hit like a little bit above my knee. And it had this, like, fun tigery zebra print on it, and it's brown and black. And I put a black turtleneck under it, the baby doll on top, and then some, like, really baggy jeans and then a little pointy shoe.

[Sasheer]

I love that.

[Nicole]

I had such a nice time. I was like, I look fun. Yes. And then I put a little furry little shawl, like a shrug over it with a fur on the. The wrists, the collar. I was like, I'm a fucking Bratz doll.

[Sasheer]

Yeah, that's what it sounds like.

[Nicole]

I had a nice time and I was like, maybe I should always be trying to be a Bratz doll.

[Sasheer]

Yeah, I like that idea.

[Nicole]

I like that idea too. I really like that. For me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to have a Bratz doll charm on my bag.

[Sasheer]

Oh, yes.

[Nicole]

Who do I talk to? They didn't make it to be on the outside of a bag. She's not durable. She broke.

[Sasheer]

Oh.

[Nicole]

And I'm gonna have to go get gorilla Glue. Gorilla, Gorilla Glue. I'm gonna have to get Gorilla glue and fix her. And I'm like, this should never have happened.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

You say it's a bag charm. Is she be able to withstand what a bag can withstand?

[Sasheer]

And you're rough with your bags.

[Nicole]

You're right. I'm like, I really am rough. Coming through. Oh, and then I got a little brats on my keychain.

[Sasheer]

Yes. You love brats, right?

[Nicole]

Now I love brats. They're so cute.

[Sasheer]

I wonder if they'll do a live action Bratz movie. You know, like they did the Barbie movie.

[Nicole]

Huh.

[Sasheer]

I don't know why it would be

[Nicole]

different, but, you know, it'd be more rough and tumble. I think the brats have, like, a little attitude to them. There's a Z at the end.

[Sasheer]

Those girls are bad.

[Nicole]

I mean, I think it. It would be fun, but, like, I love how big the Bratz doll's eyes are. Oh, yeah. So I'm like, how would you do that?

[Sasheer]

I feel like there's some actresses that have really big eyes. I don't know if they'd be as cartoonish or I guess you could use CGI to actually make them large. But I don't want to see that. I don't want to see that.

[Nicole]

Oh, my God. I don't know Bratz lore.

[Sasheer]

I have no idea what the Bratz do.

[Nicole]

Ally, we gotta know.

[Sasheer]

Are they going to school?

[Nicole]

I don't know.

[Sasheer]

I have no idea.

[Nicole]

Because we know Barbie is a career girl.

[Sasheer]

She does everything.

[Nicole]

Yes.

[Sasheer]

She's a doctor, She's a president. She's going to space. She's. She has a dog.

[Nicole]

She's a teacher. She's a dream house. She lives in Malibu.

[Sasheer]

Got a car.

[Nicole]

Yeah. Ken Skipper's her sister.

[Sasheer]

Sister Midge is another sister.

[Nicole]

Midge is the redhead. And I think it's wild that they named a redhead Midge.

[Sasheer]

Sounds like a hater.

[Nicole]

What a name. I'm Midge. And then Stacey's the black one.

[Sasheer]

That sounds right.

[Nicole]

Or Teresa.

[Sasheer]

Mm. Both those sound right.

[Nicole]

Mm. Mm.

[Ally]

Okay, so the original Bratz dolls were launched in 2001, and they were inspired by trendy teens the Designer saw in 1998. And so the Core 4 started as Chloe, Yasmin, Jade, and Sasha, and they were supposed to be the diverse, edgy fashion forward alternatives to Barbie. I'm not finding, like, an origin of their friendship.

[Sasheer]

What would they be doing? What do they do every day?

[Nicole]

I think they just serve looks. You know what I like about the Bratz real quick? So, like, Barbie has evolved with time. So like a 1960s Barbie is very different than, like a now Barbie. Bratz are stuck in 2001. And I love that for them.

[Sasheer]

Yeah, they're like, this is. We're sticking to this. Yeah, this is us.

[Ally]

Well, and I'm on a lookinbrats.com.

[Nicole]

shout them out. Looking brats.com.

[Sasheer]

lookin Bratz. Is that what it's called?

[Ally]

Yeah, lookinbrats.com.

[Sasheer]

that's funny.

[Nicole]

Whoever made that website was like, I don't need it to make sense. You're looking.

[Sasheer]

You're. You're looking.

[Nicole]

Bratz.com. it's. I think that what.

[Ally]

What they do, like, day to day is really just have a passion for fashion.

[Sasheer]

Oh, a passion for fashion. I like that.

[Nicole]

Love that. I think I have Sasha.

[Sasheer]

Nice.

[Nicole]

Is Sasha the black one?

[Ally]

I think so.

[Nicole]

Or is that Yasmin? I don't remember.

[Sasheer]

I don't know.

[Nicole]

Who's to know.

[Sasheer]

I never knew.

[Nicole]

I want to get into wearing booty shorts.

[Sasheer]

Oh, get into it.

[Nicole]

I like, I'm all over the place with my fashion.

[Sasheer]

But that's fun.

[Nicole]

One, Wear culottes. Yeah. I want more booty shorts. I just, like, want to wear shorts. I'm not. I've never been a shorts person.

[Sasheer]

This is true.

[Nicole]

And I think this 2026 is the year of shorts for me.

[Sasheer]

Get those shorts on, girl. Legs out. Shorts on.

[Nicole]

Yes. Yeah. I think that's what I'm. I think that's the. That's what this summer holds for me.

[Sasheer]

Great.

[Nicole]

Shorts.

[Sasheer]

Shorts.

[Nicole]

What does this summer hold for you?

[Sasheer]

This summer holds for me. I mean, I want to say hats, but I feel like I've already been doing hats, you know, I think it's

[Nicole]

okay to have a continuation throughout the summer.

[Sasheer]

I'm going to continue doing hats.

[Nicole]

Summer doesn't have to be about a new.

[Sasheer]

Okay.

[Nicole]

Summer can be about continuation.

[Sasheer]

I'm going to continue.

[Nicole]

I think about hats a lot.

[Sasheer]

A lot.

[Nicole]

Well, I have a lot of hats, but then I'll put them on and I'm like, I don't know, this is too much. Or then. Is your head cold a lot? Yeah.

[Sasheer]

So I got a hat on. Yeah.

[Nicole]

My head's like, kind of. I'm. I run warm. So, like, wearing a hat is like,

[Sasheer]

oh, now you're gonna heat yourself up.

[Nicole]

I'm gonna. Yeah, I'm overheat when I wear that hat to the Rose bowl that everyone. Ha. I was so steamed up. I was like, I'm getting. I'm getting hot.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And then I didn't have a bag big enough for the hat. It was such a big hat.

[Sasheer]

It's really funny.

[Nicole]

It's a big fuzzy hat. I can't remember where we got it from. I think Palm Springs or something like that.

[Sasheer]

This is the, like, rainbow colored one.

[Nicole]

The rainbow color furry bucket hat.

[Sasheer]

Yes.

[Nicole]

I think that was.

[Sasheer]

Yeah, it was Palm Springs.

[Nicole]

Nobody liked that hat.

[Sasheer]

I love it.

[Nicole]

People laughed at me.

[Sasheer]

That is true. People have. People were laughing. They're like, that hat.

[Nicole]

Two people openly laughed at me at the parking lot.

[Sasheer]

Yeah, that's true.

[Nicole]

Oh, Lord. And that's mean. I think we. We gotta stop doing that. Talk about people after the fact. Yeah.

[Sasheer]

Don't laugh at their face. Like, clearly put it on because they like it.

[Nicole]

I think they were black people, and black people are. They're not nice sometimes. They're not.

[Sasheer]

There's honest.

[Nicole]

They're like, well, that's different. I'm like, that means you don't like it. Yeah, you don't have to say that's interesting. That's not a compliment either. If you like it, I love it. That's me.

[Sasheer]

That's me.

[Nicole]

That's one of the meanest things. Well, if you like it, I love it. Well, all right.

[Sasheer]

It's like, fine, fine. I will like it.

[Nicole]

Yeah, I like it a lot. What's the most backhanded compliment you've ever gotten?

[Sasheer]

I. I actually looked at this in my notes app recently because I was, like, trying to figure out a way to make it into a joke, but I don't know if it's a joke, but I was reading a review of my standup. Like, someone wrote, like, something that they saw performance and they said something that they said. Like, I was Disney princess pretty, and that's fine, but the article was about my comedy. So it felt like when you, like, ask something specific about somebody and someone else answers a different thing, it's like, oh, do you like working with Greg? He comes in every day. Like, that does not answer the question.

[Nicole]

I think you do have a joke there.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Yeah. Because that is a wild thing to read.

[Sasheer]

Like, is she funny? She's Disney princess pretty.

[Nicole]

Okay, but was she funny?

[Sasheer]

Yeah, that's.

[Nicole]

That's wild. That's a wild thing to, like, be like, yeah, send what now?

[Sasheer]

Yeah. But also, I think that just, like, happens to women performers all the time. People are, like, talking about how they look, and it's like, I guess we could talk. I guess you are looking at me for sure. But don't talk about how handsome all these male comedians are.

[Nicole]

Well, a lot of them look like the bottom of a foot.

[Sasheer]

I guess it's slim pickings for. Yeah, maybe I will make it to a joke.

[Nicole]

I think it's a good premise. Yeah, it's very funny. Because then you can also, like, dig into, like, Disney stuff that's like, did I tell a joke like that?

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Am I gonna tell you how to write a dang joke?

[Sasheer]

I mean, I'll take. I'll take punch ups. Oh, okay.

[Nicole]

Yeah. I think that's one of my favorite things about standup is, like, when you ask a friend when you're like. Because everyone talks about, like, different things, and it's like, what I like talking about is different than what you like talking about. So it's like, I can come to you and be like, what about this? And you're like, oh, yes. And you, like, pitch on it. And it's not like I'm taking your jokes because it's like, you'd never.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

You would never write a joke like that. I remember you ran a And Amelia Earhart joke passed me and Mateo, and we had so much fun pitching on it.

[Sasheer]

Yeah. So fun. Ugh.

[Nicole]

Yeah. I love stand up sometimes.

[Sasheer]

Love stand up.

[Nicole]

And sometimes I get a little burnt out.

[Sasheer]

Mm. It happens. But, yeah, it is nice.

[Nicole]

Yeah. Like, any.

[Sasheer]

Any pitch I ever give is like, it's yours. Like, I watched Mateo's set, and he had a joke about topping. And I said I had a tag for something, and he's like, can I take that? And I was like, I'm not gonna use it. I saw I can't do anything with it. You absolutely should take it.

[Nicole]

Here's my joke about topping as a gay man. Me, sasheer.

[Sasheer]

Like, this is performance art.

[Nicole]

It's really funny. Is this performance art? Can I take that? Yeah, of course.

[Sasheer]

Yes, yes.

[Nicole]

I thought of it.

[Sasheer]

I have nothing to do with it.

[Nicole]

When we were at. You stayed at Mateo's apartment, and I took a picture of something in his kitchen. I was like, I'm in your home. Do you have medicine? He was just like, lol, No, I don't have what you're looking for. I was like, I like that.

[Sasheer]

Yeah, I like that a lot. I'm in your home. I'm in your home.

[Nicole]

My friend Evan stayed at my place when I wasn't there, and he kept taking pictures around my house, being like, I'm in this part of your house. And it really just made me laugh.

[Sasheer]

That's fun.

[Nicole]

He also was like, so, like, is there a rule where, like, none of your snacks, like, all your snacks are stale? So is that, like, a rule that they have to, like, be stale? And then other people have made comments about my stale chips. It's hard to live sometimes.

[Sasheer]

But, like, is it because you don't want anyone to throw your stuff out? Is that it?

[Nicole]

No, it's. I want something to munch on.

[Sasheer]

But it can't be that because it's stale. But do you like it stale?

[Nicole]

No, but I do eat a lot of stale chips.

[Sasheer]

Just, like, buy chips when you want

[Nicole]

them, but then I don't finish the bag, and then the bag is in the house, and then I get hungry, and I'm like, better munch on those chips. And I'm like, oh, God, they're stale. Well, I guess I'll have two more.

[Sasheer]

I mean, I can't do that when I eat chips. I'm a chip hound, as you know.

[Nicole]

Oh, she's a chip hound. As you know I'm a chip hound, as you know.

[Sasheer]

As you know.

[Nicole]

That got me good. I'm a chip hound, as you know. I do know you're a chip hound,

[Sasheer]

so I can't fathom not finishing a bag of chips.

[Nicole]

Like, a big bag. Oh, yeah.

[Sasheer]

Like, that day, or at least the next day, because I can't stop. Once you pop, you can't stop.

[Nicole]

It is so interesting to me that you're not £800. Because, like, you love eating, and you'll eat, eat, eat, eat, eat. But I have watched you go. I had. I've had enough.

[Sasheer]

Yeah. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe there's a difference between my snack mode and, like, meal mode, because I can snack forever, but when I'm eating a meal, there's definitely a moment where I'm like, now I'm full.

[Nicole]

Mm. Interesting.

[Sasheer]

Mm.

[Nicole]

Yeah. I think I'm a different snacker.

[Sasheer]

Meals.

[Nicole]

I'm like, what if I never get to eat again? Snacks. I'm like, I don't know. I'll let those chips rot, and I'll get to them eventually. I don't know.

[Sasheer]

I don't know, girl.

[Nicole]

Also, I go through phases, so I had tortilla chips because I was melting a little cheddar on them, mashing up an avocado, getting a little sour cream, and have a little mini bowl of nachos.

[Sasheer]

That sounds nice.

[Nicole]

Yeah. I was having a good time.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And then that phase left. Now I just have so many chips in my house. Yeah.

[Sasheer]

I went to a farmer's market the other day, and there was a stand that had elote, which was just corn and cheese and mayo and, like, spices and stuff. And maybe I paid $7 for it. And I was like, I can make this at home. And it happens all the time where I'm like, I can just get the ingredients and make it at home. I can make a lot a. Anytime I want to if I wanted to.

[Nicole]

Will I?

[Sasheer]

Probably not, no. But I wish I could. I wish I would. I wish I would.

[Nicole]

I wish I would. I wish you would. Yes. You would be a cooking hound. Who?

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

I want to be a cornhound in my house. I want to be a cornhound in my house. I'll guarantee that's a sentence nobody's ever said. I want to be a cornhound in my house. I want to be a cornhound in my house. So funny. I want you to be a cornhound in your house.

[Sasheer]

Thank you.

[Nicole]

I think it's we. So, like, I feel like in walkable cities, people like, stop at the grocery store before going home. When I'm driving home, I'm like, I need to get home. I've been sitting in traffic. So it never occurs to me to just like, stop at the store.

[Sasheer]

Yeah. Although I did order groceries at the house the other day and I was like, well, that was easy. That was so easy. I could do this all the time if I wanted to.

[Nicole]

Did you get corn? Nope. Girl, you're not trying hard enough to be a corn hound.

[Sasheer]

I know. I'll order corn.

[Nicole]

Order some corn.

[Sasheer]

I'll order some corn.

[Nicole]

Should we answer some questions? Yeah.

[Sasheer]

Hi.

[Ally]

Nicole and Sashir love you both so much. I just saw. I just saw Sasheer at the Hollywood Improv and I'm looking forward to Nicole's Netflix is a joke set.

[Sasheer]

He he.

[Ally]

My question is regarding my roommate slash best friend who I've known for almost a decade now. Living together has shown me different dynamics of us that I don't think friends who live together with who friends who don't live together would see. A big example of this is I realize she has an inability to communicate with people if she feels she can't relate or circle it back to herself. Anytime anyone, especially me, confides in her about something, the conversation always ends up being about her and her own personal experiences and I'm left unheard and whatever I need to talk about is neglected. I always ask about her and check in, but she does not reciprocate. Recently she was going back and forth on a job offer that is three times my salary and complaining about the compensation package not meeting her requirements. I was happy to support and help her, but eventually got frustrated as I'm going through a lot of personal things she's aware of or she's unaware of because she doesn't ask how I am and I'm forced to sit here listening to her complain about financial opportunities I dream of. It all became that. It became all that she would talk about. And even when I'd bring something up I needed her support on. Somehow the conversation steered and we were back talking about her offer. We actually were on the way to the Hollywood Improv to see Sasheer and I truly needed to be present and enjoy a couple of hours of Teehee. But alas, all she could hyper fixate on was the her offer and eventually I just had to ignore her. We will be moving apart soon, but I would love some help on deciding if how she communicates or lack thereof is even worth bringing up. Please let me know if I'm being a bitch. Lol. Love you both.

[Sasheer]

Hmm.

[Nicole]

I don't think you're being a bitch. But I do wonder if it'll get better once they're not living together.

[Sasheer]

Yeah, maybe. I mean, it also sounds like this might be like how this person talks. Yeah, but we've had discussions in our friend group about like adhd. I don't know this person has ADHD or not. But like, there's a, there is a, A tendency of like empathizing with what someone's saying. And, and it's not, It's. They don't. The person doesn't know that they're like moving the focus to themselves, but they're in. In order to be like, I get this. I understand what you're saying.

[Nicole]

My experience.

[Sasheer]

Yeah, exactly. Here's a story that I went through that is comparable to this. It's like, to connect, not necessarily to like, take focus. Which took me a while to realize, like, there were times where I'm like, can I get a word, finish my sentence? But now I'm like, okay, they're just saying this thing because they're trying to acknowledge the thing that I said. And then I'm trying to be better about being like. And now back to the thing that I said to finish that up. But also I think because I brought it up, our group is also better about being like. So sorry, let's go back to the thing that you were talking about. So maybe your friend won't know they're doing that if you don't say anything. Yes.

[Nicole]

Yeah. Something. I don't know, something in me is like, it's not that. Because they're hyper fixated on this job opportunity and kind of neglecting. Cause our listeners said that they're going through some problems. I don't know if those problems. I don't know if it's financial problems, but they said that their offer is more than they make. So it seems to be a real blindness to their friend's situation. But also I do think it's worth talking about saying, hey, I feel like sometimes you turn the conversation to yourself and I think it's cause you wanna relate to me, but we never actually get to what I'm trying to say. Yeah, that's. I feel like. Is what you said to our friend group.

[Sasheer]

Yeah, I think so.

[Nicole]

And then we were like, wow, wow, wow, wow. Sometimes I've never heard. And it's like. But I do think we've gotten better.

[Sasheer]

You have, you definitely have. And I wonder if, I mean, because you Said this many times. Like. Like, you're not the. What do you. How do you say it?

[Nicole]

You're not the main character in somebody else's story.

[Sasheer]

Yeah. So, like, this one person, your friend, who's fixated on this promotion, is that.

[Nicole]

Or like, it's a job opportunity.

[Sasheer]

A job opportunity. That's what they're fixated on. They're not thinking, oh, how insensitive am I to talk about this in front of my friend who's dealing with financial issues. They're just thinking about this issue that they have, which is valid. That's. To them, that is an issue. And to you, you have your own issues. So they're just saying them out loud to a friend, but unfortunately not thinking, like, how you are receiving it. But also, it's like, she's allowed to complain. This is an issue that she's having. And.

[Nicole]

And if you never talk to your friend, they'll never know what's happening, because there's times where. Cause I do famously. I'll fight a stranger at an airport. I'll fight a stranger in a grocery store. I'll fucking throw down at a parking lot. But if a friend says something that's slightly mean, I'm like, well, I should just be quiet for the rest of my life and never bring it up ever again, because I don't want a confrontation with someone I have to see again and that I want to see again. So it's like you retreating into yourself is doing nobody any favors. So I think if, like. Like, if we were in the car and we were on our way to, like, a movie that I was, like, really excited about, and you were like, oh, this, that, and the other, I think I would just be like, sasheer. We could talk about that after the movie. And I'm not being mean, but I'm so excited about Hoppers, and I can't wait to see. I really want to see Hoppers. I can't wait to see it. And if it's okay, can we just, like, talk about some stuff that, like, I read about it or whatever?

[Sasheer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's totally valid. Yeah. Like, can we put a pin in this? I would love to hear more about this. Right now, I really want to focus on Hopperson.

[Nicole]

I want to see it so bad.

[Sasheer]

Or the Tee Hee Hees I'm going to get at this comedy show show. But I do want to hear about this later. And then you can, like, you know, have some time to do that.

[Nicole]

And if you do that, you put a pin in it, you return to it. You can be like, I also wanted to talk to about this other thing that's going on with me.

[Sasheer]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And then you can just be like, we put a pin in yours and we're going to talk about mine too. Yeah, we're going to have like a deep talk.

[Sasheer]

Yeah, I like that.

[Nicole]

After Hoppers.

[Sasheer]

And sometimes, like, sometimes I feel like a conversation can't hold everyone's stuff. Like, sometimes I feel like it's okay to be like, we're only gonna address your stuff right now. And then like, next hang or what. Whenever. I. I now need all the focus and, and maybe you need to say that out loud. But like. And you can actually, you can say that loud. You'd be like, hey, can I talk to you about this job thing that I need to deal. Deal with in my brain? Or like this relationship issue or whatever. Like, make it specific. Say it out loud. I need to talk about X, Y and Z so that your friend hopefully understands we are talking about X, Y and Z. Not just like, any problems that are happening. Just like, I. My friend needs to talk about this. Let's talk about it.

[Nicole]

Yeah. Because you gotta. You gotta tell people what you want because closed mouths don't get fed.

[Sasheer]

They sure don't.

[Nicole]

Which is crazy. You're not gonna put something on my plate, on my plate, because my mouth is closed.

[Sasheer]

I just have to be open like a baby bird the whole time.

[Nicole]

Imagine that's how you had to get served at a restaurant. The server won't put the plate down. You're like, please, please, please, please. Well. Well, we did it. If you have any.

[Sasheer]

If you have any questions or queries, you can email [e-mail] and we got a phone number.

[Nicole]

Hit it, sister.

[Ally]

323-238-6554.

[Sasheer]

Okay.

[Nicole]

Okay.

[Sasheer]

Signing off from sunny California.

[Nicole]

Goodbye. Goodbye.

[Ally]

That was a Headgum podcast. Hi, I am Mandy Moore.

[Sasheer]

Sterling K. Brown.

[Nicole]

And I'm Chris Sullivan. And we host the podcast that was

[Ally]

each episode.

[Nicole]

We're gonna go into a deep dive from our show. This is us.

[Sasheer]

That's right.

[Ally]

We're gonna go episode by episode. We're also gonna pepper in episodes with different guest stars and writers and casting directors.

[Nicole]

Are we gonna cry?

[Sasheer]

Yes, a little bit.

[Nicole]

Are we gonna laugh a lot? A whole lot.

[Sasheer]

That's what I'm hoping, man. Listen to.

[Ally]

That was us on your favorite podcast app.

[Sasheer]

Or watch full video episodes on YouTube or Spotify. New episodes every Tuesday.