
OH WOW HELLO! This week Nicole and Sasheer cover Nicole’s travel mishaps and newest nemesis, what a manifesto really is, plane-snoring, airline etiquette, Nicole’s new friend Ed - the CEO of Delta, pilots who sleep at the wheel. Then, Nicole and Sasheer answer listener questions about how to feel okay about your ex/current friend moving on, and how to have hard conversations with roommates. Plus - roller crocs?!? Email or call Nicole & Sasheer with your friendship questions at: nicoleandsasheer@gmail.com 424-645-7003
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Nicole Byer
Hey, guys, we have a live show coming up on Saturday, July 16th at 8pm at the Largo in sunny Los Angeles, California.
Sasheer Zamata
These shows are really fun. We catch up, we tell stories, we make each other laugh and we make you laugh. We even do buzzfeed quizzes and we answer your questions right in the dang room. You come to the show with a freaking question. What? We'll answer it. It's a dang good time.
Nicole Byer
It's a dang good time. Grab them tickets for a dang good time for July 16th.
Sasheer Zamata
You absolutely have to do that line again. There's no way you got a good take of that.
Nicole Byer
Grab your tickets for July 16th and.
Caller 1 (Fern)
What?
Nicole Byer
What is happening? Grab tickets for July 16th, Keith, at largo-la.com. see you then in sunny Los Angeles, California.
Sasheer Zamata
Oh, wow.
Nicole Byer
Hello. Wait, should we just start? Yeah.
Sasheer Zamata
Wait, I thought you were starting.
Nicole Byer
I was, and then I stopped.
Sasheer Zamata
How are you?
Nicole Byer
I'm so sleepy. Yeah, I couldn't fall asleep last night.
Sasheer Zamata
Oh, when'd you go to sleep?
Nicole Byer
Like three. And then I kept just like waking up.
Sasheer Zamata
Damn.
Nicole Byer
Okay. Hello? Sasheer.
Sasheer Zamata
I thought that was the start.
Nicole Byer
Oh, was it?
Sasheer Zamata
We're gonna include all of this?
Nicole Byer
I. We should. This is great. How are you? I've already said it. I'm exhausted.
Sasheer Zamata
Yeah, I'm actually pretty well rested. I don't know how.
Nicole Byer
What a dream.
Sasheer Zamata
We got back from Mexico yesterday and I think I went to bed around midnight. And then I woke up somehow at like 8am just like all on all.
Nicole Byer
Wow, you love to see it. Yeah, I had to watch Spider Man. Gotta get home. And I don't know the second one, whatever the fuck it's called, and.
Sasheer Zamata
Gotta get home.
Nicole Byer
Gotta get Spider Man. Gotta get home. And then I finished it at like, I guess like one ish. And then I tried to go to sleep and then I couldn't go to sleep. So then I drank some Zequil. Zequil knocked me out for a. For like maybe an hour. And then I woke myself up snoring. And then I was like, you gotta get back to sleep. And then I kept waking myself up snoring. It was delightful. I loved it. Thrilling Adventures of Nicole Sleeping. It is what it is. I don't know, somebody told me I should do like a sleep study to figure out why I'm snoring. Also, the last time I had a physical, the lady looked in my mouth and went, do you have a boyfriend? And I was like, is this a hate crime? What are you saying to me? What is happening? And she was like, because you have a closed throat, so you probably snore. So she's like, do you wake up your boyfriend? And I was like, one, get out of my business. Two, I'm famously single. Three, I have a small throat.
Sasheer Zamata
I was really afraid that she was going to be like, you have a closed throat so his dick will not get back there. He's going to have a hard time getting back into that throat.
Nicole Byer
You are not a throat goat. Your throat is too tiny. I'd be so sad if someone, you know, diagnosed me as a non throat goat.
Sasheer Zamata
My official diagnosis is, you can't deep throat. Nobody.
Nicole Byer
Nobody. Sorry about it, honey boy, I'd be sad. But no, the diagnosis was, if I were to ever sleep with someone repeatedly, I would wake them up. Isn't that a wild thing for someone to say?
Sasheer Zamata
That is because, like, why. Why is that the main concern? It should be how is this affecting you, not the person you're sleeping with.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, yeah. She should have been more. More involved with me. She should have been talking to me. But, you know, it's like a movie doctor. And I don't know what her credentials actually are.
Sasheer Zamata
I see one of those people, there's like, you're alive. You can go work.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, Physicals for our jobs are so funny. Someone will look at you and be like, do you feel like sick? And you're like, no. And they're like, all right, sign these documents, you're cleared.
Sasheer Zamata
I know at one time a doctor for a work physical felt my throat and was like, you're a throat coat. I'm just kidding. He was like. He's like, you have enlarged an enlarged thyroid. And I was like, yeah, I have gone to a doctor before and, like, they mentioned it, but, like, said it wasn't anything to worry about. I was like, do you think it's gotten larger? Do you think I should get this checked out? And he was like, meh, I don't think so. I was like, you don't think so?
Nicole Byer
Boy, oh, boy.
Sasheer Zamata
But you noticed it. And he's like, ah, it's probably fine. And I was like, oh, boy. Okay.
Nicole Byer
I. I love a medical professional who's like, listen, I don't know. I truly don't know. Don't know, don't know.
Sasheer Zamata
There's no way to figure this out.
Nicole Byer
I won't even go. Not one time. I had one physical. It was in New York, and I was living in, like, uptown at the time. I always lived uptown. And they sent me to this place, like, I'll never forget. Yeah, it was West 4th. And then I was like, ugh. I took the train. There was too many steps. West 4th, if you take the blue line down, you gotta go up eight flights of stairs. It's rude. And the elevator never works. So I huffed and puffed and I made it to the doctor. And he was like, boy, you're out of breath. And I was like, yeah. I was trying to make it here. I hustled. I was trying to be on time. He was like, okay, let's start your physical. You ever think about losing weight? And I was like, you know, maybe. Maybe once a month. I don't know, sir. And he was like, I think you should think about it harder. And I was like, can I do this job? And he was like, oh, yeah, you're cleared. But like. And then kept talking to me about, like, losing weight. And I was like. And also, P.S. he was huge. He was the. He was a very big man. I was like, all right, Humpty Dumpty. This is the pot calling kettles black. Leave me alone. I didn't like him. I wish him nothing.
Sasheer Zamata
I'm so sorry.
Nicole Byer
Like that lady on the plane yesterday. Oh, my God. We step. Okay, first of all, I hurt myself every day of our trip. You really did. I. We were in Mexico. I put a song in at karaoke to sing party in the USA. This is after I paid the DJ US$100 to never put in another song from this unruly table that I hated. I said, I will pay you to not be nice to them. And that DJ said, will do. So we put it aside Party in the USA Maybe disrespectful to do in Mexico because I'm not partying in the usa. I am in Mexico, but chose to sing it. And as I was skipping my heart out to get to the stage, I hear a. And felt up. And I said, oh, dear. But I finished the song because she's.
Sasheer Zamata
What? Professional at having fun.
Nicole Byer
And. And also I had eaten mushrooms, so I thought maybe. I was like, maybe it was a good pop. Turns out, bad pop. It was a dirty pop.
Sasheer Zamata
And.
Nicole Byer
And that was the first day. And then I was just, like, limping the whole time. We're there the second day. Oh, go to this beautiful beach. And then there was a pool floaty that I was playing on. Had a nice time. The floaty said, I reject this fun you're having. And it slammed into my acrylic fingernails, splitting my nail horizontally down the center. Blood everywhere. Covered in like. Truly came up from the ocean. What?
Sasheer Zamata
Just dripping. You Were dripping, dripping in blood. And I was like, oh, fuck.
Nicole Byer
Like a dream of mine is emerging from the ocean. Toss tossing a cute little afro of, like, little beads of hair. Someone being like, wow, look at that sexy woman emerging from the ocean. Oh, my God, I love her. And like, water dripping instead. I like, limped out of the ocean dripping in blood. Like the fucking boogie.
Sasheer Zamata
Like a horror movie.
Nicole Byer
I was like. I was like the lady from the ring climbing out of the tv. Except the TV is the fucking ocean. And our friend rushed to get, like, a medic wrapped me up. And then I didn't get hurt on ATVs, but I was stuck behind the slowest woman in America. Who didn't. Or no, I was not in America. Oh, no, I was. No, I was not in America. I was in the continent. North America.
Sasheer Zamata
Yes.
Nicole Byer
No, I was in Central America. Wait, no, I think it's North America. I'm North America. Okay. Slowest woman in North America. And my God, we were going up a hill. And okay, to be fair, she was like a little. She was. She was plus size. And they, like, clocked plus size people and put us on bigger ATVs because it helps you go up the hill, especially if you don't know how to shift. And they told us how to shift. You just got to be in a higher gear to go up a hill. And boy, oh, boy, she got stuck. And I was like, shift up. I'm screaming, shift up. In the clearest, clearest of voice. She turns around and she's like, excuse me? And I was like, shift up. And she's like, what are you saying? I was like, shift up. And she was like, what? And then the guy, like, came over and did it for her. I was so mad. And then I wanted to be like. And then you downshift. Whatever. She kept going so slow. But finally I got to the end of the line so I could do whatever I want. And we were on it for six more seconds. Then a long, roundabout way to get to this plane. So. So we're putting our luggage in the overhead bin. Sasheer. I love for Sasheer to just sit down and I'll put her stuff up. I don't know why I need you to enjoy your time on a plane. I love planes.
Sasheer Zamata
You're a gentleman and I appreciate that.
Nicole Byer
Thank you. I am your plane gentleman. So also, I took a wheelchair down because I have this terrible limp. And then people, I guess, don't believe that you need a wheelchair if you can stand up later, which is very interesting. So I was Putting the suitcases up. And this lady was like, it's not going to fit. That suitcase not going to fit. Also. We're sitting there. It's not going to fit. And I was like, ma', am, it's going to fit. And she was like, this is going to fit. I try to fly a lot. I said, it's going to fit. Don't worry about it. And she's like, are you sure? And I was like, you have a lot to fucking say. She was so rude. I hate her. I wish nothing for her. I hope she got lost on her way home. I hope her children say, mommy, I hate you. I. I wish her husband filed for divorce when they landed. I hope her food wasn't good and her butthole blew up when she got home. I hate that woman. I do not like her. You know what? I should call Delta, get the manifesto, find out her name and figure out where she lives and send her some dead flowers and go, you're like, these flowers to be dead? No, that's a threat. I could never threat.
Sasheer Zamata
You threatened to kill this woman.
Nicole Byer
I guess I shouldn't. I guess that's wrong.
Sasheer Zamata
I also like that you said you're going to get the Delta Manifesto. What is that?
Nicole Byer
Isn't that what the plain list is called? A manifesto?
Sasheer Zamata
Absolutely, that.
Nicole Byer
Can you look that up? I feel like it's a plain manifesto. It's a list of all the people.
Sasheer Zamata
So I feel like that's like your thesis statement. Like, give your, like, mission or your mission statement for, I don't know, your world views.
Nicole Byer
Oh, wow. Why do I think it's called a plane manifesto?
Sasheer Zamata
Hopefully, manifesto is just landing in the right spot.
Jordan
There's a Delta manifest request form.
Sasheer Zamata
Oh, but I. Manifest. It's close.
Nicole Byer
Yeah. What is it called? What the. Like, the list. They're like, we have the manifesto, or maybe they've never said that. And I'm making. Where did you hear that? I feel like it's like the passenger manifesto.
Sasheer Zamata
I don't know, but who said that?
Nicole Byer
I feel like I heard a flight attendant say, we have the manifesto.
Sasheer Zamata
Oh, no. Maybe they're planning something.
Jordan
There is a thing on Google that says, what is a plan? Plane manifesto. A manifest, comma, customs manifest, or cargo document is the document listing the cargo, passengers and crew of a ship, aircraft, or vehicle for the use of customs and other officials. Okay, I guess you were right. I didn't even know about this.
Nicole Byer
Interesting. I probably never heard anyone say this, and I. I don't know, because it.
Sasheer Zamata
Seems like, you know, a Lot about planes.
Nicole Byer
I love planes. Listen, listen. Our friend. My friend Tessie, our friend. She's your friend too now. She couldn't go. She had to go back to Portland. And she was trying to get into the Delta Lounge, and they said she couldn't be in the lounge. And then I looked up online. You could be in the lounge if you are first class or if you were flying international. And I was ready to fucking get on the phone, hop on the horn, and get it done. What I did was I took a screenshot and I sent it to her. She was like, I already told them. And I had half a mind last night before going to sleep to call Delta and say, excuse me, you tell me exactly what all the rules are right now. But then I was like, I have the credit card. I'm fine. But I just don't want my friends denied.
Sasheer Zamata
I mean, it doesn't make sense because that's been the rule for the longest, that if you're on an international flight and you're connecting, you can be in the lounge and your first class. She should have absolutely been in the lounge.
Nicole Byer
Absolutely. But, you know, on the way to Mexico, I did hear a man in a cowboy hat say to his friend or acquaintance, they're making it easier for any old person to come in here. He also didn't have a southern accent. He gets more and more bigger and bigger every time I talk about it.
Sasheer Zamata
And then he rode his horse into.
Nicole Byer
The sunset and said, I don't even need a plane today.
Sasheer Zamata
But also, that's not true, that it's not easier for people to get in there. No, it's, in fact, getting harder.
Nicole Byer
It's getting so much harder. And all I ever want to do is eat eggs in the Delta Lounge.
Sasheer Zamata
Although the eggs we had on the.
Nicole Byer
Way to Mexico were super salty. If there is a Delta representative listening right now who works in culinary, can you let the chef know, the head chef, that the frittatas were too salty. The only opulent thing about me is how I fly. That is literally it. Truly a crusty bitch. Any other time, I wonder if I. I don't think I can pole dance for a while with my fingy like this.
Sasheer Zamata
Oh, absolutely not. I wouldn't suggest.
Nicole Byer
It fucking sucks.
Sasheer Zamata
I'm sorry. I mean, also, with your leg, I don't think you should be pole dancing.
Nicole Byer
Oh, yeah, probably not. I should probably let that rest.
Sasheer Zamata
Yeah, definitely. Poor thing. You just were truly falling apart. Every day throughout this trip, I was.
Nicole Byer
Like my boyfriend, I think my body was like, I have Been through enough because I went to Miami, had a fucking wild last night. Truly went for work, had a wild last night in Miami. Got to the airport, apps. So okay, was having my wild night. Looked at my watch or my phone or whatever. Said to the friend I was with, I was like, I get picked up in an hour. And they were like, you gotta get out of here. And I was like, you're right, I gotta get out of here. So they would get in the car, get back to the hotel, and I said, I have to spend the rest of my per diem. You're not going to give me money that I'm not going to spend. So I ordered a hamburger. I think I ordered two hamburgers because I was like, got to get the rest of the per diem because I was keeping track. So the burger came, I laid on that bed and ate it horizontal. It got everywhere.
Sasheer Zamata
Also. You only had an hour.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, the. My assistant was calling me, the driver was calling me. And also I turned the TV on and landed on. I don't know, I think it was like HBO Spanish. So I was just like, or HBO in Spanish. And I was just watching Spanish stuff. And I was like, what are they saying? I was so drunk that I thought it was like an English thing. And I was like, why aren't they saying the words? I know as I was horizontal, slamming a burger in my mouth. Two burgers. Oh, and then the driver who dropped me off from where I was was the driver who took me to the airport and he went, wow, are you okay? And I was like, uh huh. I just gotta sleep here. And so I fell asleep in the car. And then he, very gently, when we got there, he was like, hey, we're here. I said, thank you so much. And he's like, get home safe. I said, okay. And then I tipped him I don't know how much money.
Sasheer Zamata
And then he just handed your wallet over.
Nicole Byer
Yeah. I said, please take my identity. I don't know who I am. I wasn't in my body at that moment anyway.
Sasheer Zamata
You were not.
Nicole Byer
So then I get through TSA security. I feel like I had a real nice hahaha with the agent when I took my mask down. But I don't remember if it was a good hahaha or if it was just me ha ha ing. And then I didn't tell you any of this. I just said I was very drunk when I flew home. So then I sit down and I oh, also it was like gate 179. It was the longest walk I have Ever taken to get to a gate at Miami International Airport and they said, you'll walk this off before you get on the flight. And my body said, that's gonna work. I got on the flight and I looked around and I was like, I'm still so drunk and it is 5:30 in the morning and I don't think anyone is at my level. So then I had another vodka soda and then finished that and promptly passed out. We were on the ground for 45 minutes while I was just snoring. And I didn't even know we were delayed until we were landing where they were like, we tried to get you here on time. That 45 minute delay really set us back. And I was, I like looked around, I was like, did everyone else know we were delayed?
Sasheer Zamata
That's really funny.
Nicole Byer
Oh God.
Sasheer Zamata
I mean, give you extra time to sleep.
Nicole Byer
It did, but the way I slept was I slumped down in my seat and slammed my knees into the seat in front of me. And I think that person reclined on me because when I woke up I was like, ow, why am I sitting like this? And I was like, also my knees hurt. So when I stood up, finally I was like, no, boy, oh boy. It was. And then my seatmate, he kept glaring at me. So I think I was snoring really hard and really loud and maybe talking.
Sasheer Zamata
Just like the doctor was saying, yeah.
Nicole Byer
Well I'm not dating that person, so I don't give a shit.
Sasheer Zamata
That's a good point.
Nicole Byer
And I thought I was done flying drunk like that. I used to do that all the time in my early 20s or like when I was touring a ton more because you know, it'd be a very early flight to get somewhere else and then you'd have a show and then you go out after the show. So you get on planes drunk. I can't. I'm. I'm.
Sasheer Zamata
I know. It's so much harder. Yeah, I did that leaving Indiana and I. Well, I missed my flight because I just fully fell asleep with the TV on and all the lights on and was and like set no alarms, wasn't had no plan. Stuff was scattered everywhere and it was like, like a zombie. It was like, I have to go. And then truly If I left 15 minutes earlier, I probably could have made it. But she didn't.
Nicole Byer
She. Did I ever tell you about the last time I was going to Austin? I think we were before. I think it was Moon Tower. I left LA pretty drunk. Can't remember what. I think I was coming from like a dinner or something. Or maybe I don't remember, but I was drunk getting on the plane, had a cocktail on the flight, fell asleep, woke up to them saying, we're now landing in Houston. Couldn't land in Austin. And I was like, wait, again. I looked around, I was like, we all knew this. We all knew we were not going to our destination. And then we landed. We deplaned. And then they were like, this plane is going to Austin. And they were like. And we were leaving in 45 minutes. And I said, I believe you. Which is something you should never believe in airline. It took, like, three hours. And then there was another flight that had taken off. But, like, I believed the 45 minutes, so I didn't read books. And then I was in the fucking Houston airport for three hours. Did I ever tell you about that?
Sasheer Zamata
No, I don't think so.
Nicole Byer
Oh, boy, it was wild.
Sasheer Zamata
I know. I hate when stuff like that happens where they're like, okay, it's gonna be delayed just this much. And you're like, I could rebook, but maybe I'll believe them. And it never. It's never worked out where it's like, oh, they were right. It was only 45 minutes. It's like, now it's my whole day here.
Nicole Byer
Yeah.
Sasheer Zamata
And everyone else got to leave on a different plane.
Nicole Byer
Oh. If there is anybody who works in airlines listening, I have a query. Here is the query. So my friend Tessie, she had a connecting flight from Portland that was delayed. It was a Delta flight to a Delta flight to Mexico. And she was not the only person delayed. There was, like, 10 other people delayed, and they were trying to close the doors. And I think the only reason why they didn't close the doors is because we talked to the gate agent, and we were nice. And we're like, our friend is coming. And we stayed outside the. Like, we stayed outside till the last second. And then, like, everyone, like, rush, rush, rush. And, like, made it right on time. Like, right as they were closing the doors. But I'm like, how. Why would you leave 10 passengers if they're only going to be, like, five minutes late? Because I've had flights held for me. We had a flight held for us when we went to Canada. Remember when I ate the edible and you were perfectly sober and we had a great time.
Sasheer Zamata
Yeah, I was just sleeping. We were like, muffins are good. And then when they're like, misfire. Ms. Moore.
Nicole Byer
We were waiting. We were waiting for you. We held the flight for you. And then we laughed the whole way to our seats. Everyone's staring at us, not happy. But.
Sasheer Zamata
Yeah, that didn't make any sense because it was like. So you would rather rebook all these people than just wait five minutes?
Nicole Byer
Because you can.
Sasheer Zamata
You can see where they're coming from.
Nicole Byer
You can see what they have the manifesto.
Sasheer Zamata
They just look in your manifesto.
Nicole Byer
Yeah. That's so silly. I need to talk to Ed Bastian about this. That's the CEO.
Sasheer Zamata
Who is Ed Bastian?
Nicole Byer
I believe he's the acting CEO, Jordan. Can you confirm that for me?
Sasheer Zamata
Why do you know this?
Nicole Byer
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I love Delta. The acted ce. That's correct. That is wild that I know that. And I'm not like, I have very, very little knowledge in this brain, but I know Ed Bastion. Oh, I know Ed. I have no idea what he looks like. This is like the other night when I knew who. Who? Tootsie Poots. No, wait.
Sasheer Zamata
Imogen. Imogen Poots.
Nicole Byer
I knew who Imogen Poots was, and I couldn't figure out why I knew her. That's Ed. Wow. I think Ed and I could be friends. I think Ed would finally would find me very entertaining, and he'd want to be around me.
Sasheer Zamata
He would absolutely find you.
Nicole Byer
He'd be like, oh, I like Nicole.
Sasheer Zamata
Some happy old, rich white man loves you.
Nicole Byer
All right, if anyone has any connections to Ed, see if Ed is married or if Ed is looking for, like, a sugar baby, because I'll fly anywhere in Delta with him. Oh, he probably has a private fucking plane. That's not even a Delta plane. Do you think. Do you think Ed's private plane says Delta, or do you think it says Ed, or do you think it says nothing?
Sasheer Zamata
It might say Delta. It might be like these. Since he's not. Since he's just the acting CEO, it might just be the CEO's plane. And then whoever's a CEO at the moment is.
Nicole Byer
Can use it. Oh, God. Ed, did you know Delta's the number one on time airline?
Sasheer Zamata
Yeah, I know that because they tell us. They brag about every time we land.
Nicole Byer
It's.
Sasheer Zamata
It's Delta.
Nicole Byer
It's all for Ed. Oh, it's because of Ed. I just learned why you get in early. You know how pilots are like, pilots will say, we made up time in the air and we landed early. They overestimate how long your flight will be. So, like, if you're delayed or whatever, you still kind of get in at your arrival time because they've built that in.
Sasheer Zamata
So it's like, to impress people.
Nicole Byer
Yeah. So you can't get mad because you're like, oh, we got in early. Or oh, I guess we got in it. We were delayed, but we got in on time. It's like, because they estimated it for you. Huh. Tricks. Chad's got tricks up his sleeve.
Sasheer Zamata
Wow. It does seem like they're doing all these tricks to like, make people, like, be like, see, we did a good job. Be calm. Like, they start playing music when we, when we deplane. And I'm like, what the fuck is this music? But I guess it's to, like, calm people the hell down.
Nicole Byer
Yeah. To be like, don't fight in the aisles. You'll get your things back. Chill out. A nice time.
Sasheer Zamata
There was like intense classical music playing on the shuttle on the way to our party.
Nicole Byer
Pretty funny. And Tess said that it was sped up on her bus, which is really funny to me.
Sasheer Zamata
Yeah. Cause she was like, rushing, so it's.
Nicole Byer
Like, oh, God, Boy, we did a funny bit on that bus. Maybe I explained the bit. It's for us. Some things have to remain private.
Sasheer Zamata
You would have had to been there.
Nicole Byer
Yeah.
Sasheer Zamata
And even if you were there, you may not have understood what was happening.
Nicole Byer
Wouldn't have gotten it.
Sasheer Zamata
Yeah. People around us definitely didn't get it.
Nicole Byer
No, they didn't like it. Except for one man. He did. He did. I saw the crinkle of the eye. You know, that's a. That's a laugh and a mask. The crinkle. And then at the end of that flight, I had my enemies, but then I had my friends behind me. I'm always making enemies and friends on flight. And then that baby, that dope ass baby and that onesie.
Sasheer Zamata
That was a cool baby.
Nicole Byer
I. It's pretty funny. I have said more about the flight than our trip to Mexico. Maybe I should.
Sasheer Zamata
Flight was entertaining. It was a lot. No, because you'll miss out on all the action.
Nicole Byer
Oh, you're right. Maybe I'll become a flight attendant and I'll just like, get into it with the passengers.
Sasheer Zamata
Were you the one telling me that most pilots fall asleep in the cockpit?
Nicole Byer
Hell, yeah. Over. I think the statistic is over 50% of pilots have said that they have fallen asleep at the wheel of planes. Like that can't be the term for it. At the gears at the, at the, at the head of the plane and have woken up and their co pilots also asleep.
Sasheer Zamata
I mean, that's terrible.
Nicole Byer
Jordan, can you confirm or deny that I'm lying? I don't think I'm Lying. I think I read that somewhere.
Sasheer Zamata
I mean, so they're just there just in case autopilot messes up.
Nicole Byer
It seems as such. Yeah. That pilots might be. Oh, a pilot might be listening and might get mad about this. It seems like pilots might be playing babysitters.
Sasheer Zamata
Whoa. More than half of pilots have fallen asleep while in charge of a plane, A survey by Pilots union suggests. Of the 56% who admitted sleeping, 29% told Balpa.
Nicole Byer
Who's Balpa?
Sasheer Zamata
I don't know who Balpa is. That they had woken up to find their other pilots asleep as well.
Nicole Byer
Damn wild, right? Damn. Yeah, I think that's. It's nuts. It's crazy. I mean, it's really funny to think about it. It's like we are flying through the fucking sky in this huge metal thing. You know, you just got to believe it and it works. And then the pilot goes, I better take a nap.
Sasheer Zamata
Right? It's, I guess, like, you're just looking at clouds, and if you don't know your co pilot, like, you don't feel like shooting the shit. I guess you just tap out and go to sleep.
Nicole Byer
But also, is there a conversation beforehand? Like, hey, man, I don't really fucking like you, dude. So I'm gonna close my eyes for a bit or like, hey, buddy, I'm gonna close my eyes. Or do you just, like, fall the fuck out?
Sasheer Zamata
They're probably also overworked. Cause I think, isn't there, like, less pilots after the pandemic or something?
Nicole Byer
Apparently everyone is short staffed because of the pandemic. 1, 2. They lifted the mask mandate. And I think Ed went on record to say that they're having staff shortages due to COVID 19. But don't. Don't. That's not a direct quote from Ed.
Sasheer Zamata
Okay, Please don't misquote Ed Bastion.
Nicole Byer
I can't misquote Ed because I'm trying to become his sugar baby. I need someone to get to Ed and tell him that I'm. I'm down. Imagine from this podcast, I get to become Ed Bastian sugar baby.
Sasheer Zamata
I mean, that'd be great.
Nicole Byer
Imagine he made me become Nicole Bastion. I could be the Queen of Delta, the real diamond diva. Oh, my God. But, yeah, I wonder. And then I know that the pilots, they're not allowed to eat the same meals. They have to, like, get separate meals in case.
Sasheer Zamata
Not allowed to.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, in case one of them has, like, gone bad and causes food poisoning.
Sasheer Zamata
Oh, the. So the one pilot has to have a different meal from the other pilot.
Nicole Byer
Okay, again, that Might be a lie, but also, I might have read that.
Sasheer Zamata
I mean, I. Everything you've said has been true so far, so I'm gonna believe it. That's what kind of sounds like a, like, murder mystery kind of thing.
Nicole Byer
Like.
Sasheer Zamata
Like, in case one of them is poisoned.
Nicole Byer
In case one of the flight attendants had a. A thrice. No. Is that what, a trist. No. What's a tryst? I don't know.
Sasheer Zamata
I was trying to say affair.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, I was trying to say in a dramatic way that she was having an affair with the pilots, and then she tries to poison him. It didn't really work out in my favor, but it was fine.
Sasheer Zamata
It's fine. Thank you. I got it.
Nicole Byer
What kind of pants are you wearing?
Sasheer Zamata
I'm wearing some new pants. Leopard.
Nicole Byer
That's what I thought. I don't think I had seen them before. Those are cute. Where are they? Okay, so people can't see they're leopard print. They're really cute. Are they denim? What's the material? Walk me through this.
Sasheer Zamata
I think they're cotton and they're comfy.
Nicole Byer
Fabric of our lives. Okay.
Sasheer Zamata
And I got them at this store called Half Off On. It's near Squaresville. I don't know what that street's called or what that area is called because I don't know where I am ever. But they just have, like, random stuff, like a bunch of, like, graphic design T shirts and. And then occasionally I'll find, like, some cool, comfy pants.
Nicole Byer
Okay.
Sasheer Zamata
Or a nice jumpsuit. I also got. Oh, where is it? It's on Vermont.
Nicole Byer
Oh, okay.
Sasheer Zamata
Thank you, Jordan. I also got, like, a sweatsuit and.
Nicole Byer
What's it called again?
Sasheer Zamata
Half Off.
Nicole Byer
Do they have plus sizes?
Sasheer Zamata
I don't think so.
Nicole Byer
Half off should become full On. Get some bigger sizes. Half Off. Oh. Or don't. I don't know. The world is fun. Should we help people or take a quiz?
Sasheer Zamata
Let's answer some questions.
Nicole Byer
Yes, let's help America.
Caller 1 (Fern)
Hi, Nicole. And this year. And Kimmy and Jordan. My name is Fern. It's a fake name. Don't worry. I guess I use they. Them pronouns so it's not confusing. But I have.
Sasheer Zamata
I need advice.
Caller 1 (Fern)
So I was dating this girl for a while, and then we broke up so that we could be friends because we wanted to remain friends after the breakup. Like, we weren't. Like, there's no, like, bad feelings. We were both just like, okay. I think, like, this is on its course. So, like, it was very amicable. Fun fact. I. We were. We scheduled. We scheduled our Breakup. And we're gonna take a, like, a little cabin trip. It was gonna be great. It was gonna be cute as hell. But then her roommate got Covid, so then we had to quarantine together for a week. But, like, since we already were going to break up and, like, do. It was. It was a great week. It was fun. It was great. But so my problem is that I'm happy being friends. I am glad. I don't want to get back with her. It was not going to last much longer. Like, neither of us thought it was going to last longer than it did, and so I am perfectly happy. But I was gonna go see her orchestra concert today, and she said, oh, I'm gonna bring my plus one. Can't hang out anymore. And I was like, bet you have your own life. That's fine. But now I'm just, like, having these weird feelings about, like, if she has, like, a new significant other. And I, like, y' all have advice, like, how to get over those kinds of feelings of, like, not wanting to be back with her, and, like, not jealousy, but just, like. Like, this, like, weird squishy scratchiness of having to confront that. Because that's kind of new for me. It's very clear. And I love you guys. I think you're so funny, and you make my dick, and you make me really happy every time I put on the podcast, and I listen to it all the time. Okay, love you. Bye.
Nicole Byer
They seem very sweet. Yeah. I do think that is a hard thing to date someone who you had a friendship with and then continue the friendship and be happy that you're still friends, because love and sexual attraction and romantic feelings don't just, like, turn off. So I think my therapist has said mourning a relationship is, like, good and healthy. So I think it's okay to, like, be sad, be in your feelings, and mourn the loss of, like, the romance or whatever. Um, and I think maybe a good way to get over it is to ask them questions about their dating life and share your dating life a little bit. And if you do start to feel jealousy, just remember that you have this person in a different capacity. Like, just because it's not romantic doesn't mean they don't have the same level of love for you. Mm.
Sasheer Zamata
I think. I don't know. I.
Nicole Byer
In.
Sasheer Zamata
In my mind, I'm kind of like, take a break. Like, y' all don't have to be immediately be best friends right now. You just broke up. Like, you can still be friends for sure. Go on coffee dates, etc, But I Don't know if you need to, like, feel like this person needs to be in your life as much as they just were, because then you're gonna run into moments like this where they're like, well, now I'm dating. And you're like, oh, this is a new thing. You weren't dating before because you were dating me and that, you know, like, go find your other friends. Go regroup with your other friends that you have, make new relationships, maybe go date and if that's what you want to do. And then maybe it'll be easier to like, have those conversations where you're like, oh, how's. How was your date?
Nicole Byer
How was your.
Sasheer Zamata
How are these other people that you're seeing? Etc. But I think to immediately go. I feel like you're kind of fooling yourself to be like, we could just like, put a hard line. Like, okay, now we're friends. And like, it's as if we didn't date for X amount of time. Like you and. And kind of what to what you were saying. You can mourn the relationship, but I do think that takes time. I don't know that you can do that while you're still in the process of becoming friends again.
Nicole Byer
I guess that makes sense to. Yeah. Just like, remove yourself from the situation for a little bit so you can. What is it? What is they. They say hindsight's 20 20. So it's like when you. When you're out of it, you can see more fully about things. So. Yeah, maybe some distance will be good. Yeah, I think that's. That's good advice, I think. Yeah.
Sasheer Zamata
And you can definitely still hang out with this person. Maybe it's like group time with your friends or something. But I think maybe, like, cool it on the, like, off, like the frequent one on one hangouts for now.
Nicole Byer
That's good advice. Yeah. I've never been friends with anyone I've been romantic with. I just see them in a green room and go, hello. Until we both feel not as weird. And you keep talking.
Sasheer Zamata
Yes, same. Honestly, I don't have any close friends that I used to date.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, no, but I always think that's nice. Ish. Especially if it's like, amicable. And it's not like you don't hate each other at the end. It's like, because that person didn't know you intimately. So it is nice, I think, in theory. But again, I've never experienced it.
Sasheer Zamata
I mean, same. I've seen it done or I've heard of it happening somewhere.
Nicole Byer
It's like a myth. I heard.
Sasheer Zamata
I've heard lore that this happens sometimes.
Nicole Byer
Yes. Stories from. From. From the great beyond.
Sasheer Zamata
Jordan, are you friends with any of your exes? No.
Jordan
I'm a very. You do me wrong once, I never talk to you again.
Nicole Byer
Ooh, one and done.
Jordan
One and done. And maybe that's the Aries in me, but no, it's truly like, I don't waste my time with people who are wasting my time, and I don't want to be friends with you afterwards if you feel like you no longer want to be with me or to share your not your life with me. Not like, so, like, powerful like that, but just like, I know I don't give a lot of people second or third chances, and I'm not friends with.
Nicole Byer
Any of my exes.
Sasheer Zamata
Mm.
Jordan
But a lot of people would disagree with me. I know a lot of people who are like, I am friends with my exes, and I just feel like it's a lot of drama and I don't like drama.
Sasheer Zamata
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Okay.
Sasheer Zamata
Yeah. I hope it works out for a friend.
Nicole Byer
Me too. Let's have another query for us to answer now.
Sasheer Zamata
Hi, Nicole and Sashir. Thank you for all that you do. This podcast has brought me so much joy. I love you both so much. I would love your thoughts and advice on my roommate question. Here's the backstory. I moved in with my friend, who I've known for about 10 years. I didn't really have an idea of how she would be as a roommate, but I decided that it would be fine since we were both adults and I assumed that we can resolve any issues as they come. However, I came to the realization that I am horrible at confrontation and will let things build up until it turns into resentment. I am now. At that point, I know that I need to voice my concerns, but I can't get myself to do it. I go back and forth between my apartment and my boyfriend's apartment, so she has the apartment to herself a lot of the time. However, almost two years in, the vibe in the apartment has changed because now it feels like it is her apartment and I just have a room there. Number one, the shared space has become an extension of her room. She moved her large dog crate into the living room, so now he stays out there. She leaves all her packages and jackets on top of that crate and the dining room table and on the couch. Number two, I do all the cleaning, even though I am mostly cleaning up after her dog because he sheds everywhere. I don't mind cleaning for my share of the apartment chores, but I don't think I should be the only one doing it.
Nicole Byer
And lastly, the Most irritating point 3 she has a F W B Friends with benefits who comes every once in a while, mostly on the weekends before she would let me know if he was coming over and I would just volunteer to go to my boyfriend's apartment because I prefer not to be there. But now she doesn't give me the heads up and he comes on random days in the middle of the week. I don't have an issue with them having sex, but what I do have an issue is with their is their sex waking me up while I'm sleeping. And because her dog sleeps in the living room, he's the first to know when her Friends with Benefits comes, comes by and barks because someone is at the door. They would initially wake me up and this would be between the hours of 2 and 4am when the friends with benefits would arrive. If I get to fall back asleep, her dog will wake me up again by barking when he hears them doing it because her dog thinks she's being attacked. With all the moaning she's doing it is as if there's no one home besides them and they're loud as they can be. It's 4am on a Tuesday and all I want is sleep because I need to be up in a few hours and I'm stuck listening to a symphony of barks and moans. It's becoming an every other day occurrence and I would really like my sleep and not be interrupted by my roommate's moans or her guys grunts or slapping sounds. I don't have the luxury of wfh.
Sasheer Zamata
Work from home.
Nicole Byer
Oh work from home. So I can't just sleep or nap in the middle of the day. All of the issues have built up to the point where I'm debating just moving back home. My question is how can I address these issues when I'm not comfortable being straightforward with it. I also don't want to sound like a mom asking their kids to clean up after themselves and I don't want things to be awkward after. I really appreciate your advice. Thank you so much. Ooh, okay.
Sasheer Zamata
I would say definitely say something before you just like straight up and move home. I had a roommate who had some issues on a roommate level, but they were also my friend and probably felt the exact same way that you feel and wanted to bring up kind of some similar issues because I had a my partner was come who is my partner now but was my boyfriend at the time was coming over a bunch and maybe we were waking him up with some slapping sounds. I don't actually know. But yeah, when, when, when my roommate finally realized, like, he wanted to move out, he was like, I'm moving out. And like, I maybe had a week to find a place before our lease was up. And I was like, why didn't you tell me this last month? Or like, anytime before this time? And he was like, oh, well, you know, I, I thought, I don't know, I can't remember what his reasoning for not telling me sooner, but he was just like, well, you would probably benefit from living alone because you have your person coming here all the time and you don't want a roommate around. And I was like, sure, I guess. But like, would have loved to have this discussion literally at any point before the. For now. So, yeah, I would say bring up the issue because maybe something could change. Maybe they could actually like work on this. Or you can come to an agreement where it's like, okay, your friend text you when they figure out that their part, their person's coming over or whatever, or they move the dog crate back into the their room. But like, you could at least try. And then if you try and it's like, okay, maybe we're not a good roommate fit, then you can move out. But you do, you should let them know and give them a heads up that, hey, some of this behavior is shitty and, and you can do it in a way that's like, this is a roommate issue, not a friend issue. Like, this is not you being a bad person. Some people just don't know how to live with people. Maybe she hasn't done it before. Or like, maybe this is like one of their first experiences living with another adult. And they don't know that you can't just do whatever you want. So you kind of have to like, teach each other how to live around other people, which is unfortunate because you're not their mom. But I think saying something, anything would be helpful because then maybe they can adjust.
Nicole Byer
Yeah. And I think when you have the conversation, there is something to saying, hey, can we talk? And this is gonna be a tough conversation, but it is a roommate conversation, not a friend conversation. And then go into what you would love changed and then also maybe off if you know, you do something that might annoy them that maybe they've brought up. I don't know, maybe say, oh, and I will try to work on these things so it doesn't seem like a full blown, like, this, this, this, you, you, you, you, you, or like offer Something. It is a. It's. It's tough when it's like. Especially if you feel like you've been a very good roommate and you've been doing everything to be like, well, here are all the things you're not doing. But I think you have to, like, say some stuff that you're going to do as well so it feels like a shared thing and you're not just digging on them.
Sasheer Zamata
Yeah. Or just like some solutions that could be a compromise. Or it's like, I look, I'm happy to go to my boyfriend's place. Whenever your. Your boyfriend comes over here or your friends with benefits, just give me the heads up. Just don't. Just don't have them come at 2am and then I'm stuck. And I am hearing you guys because you're. Yeah. You may not actually know you're waking up to them fucking. And maybe they would be embarrassed and be like, oh, shit, I didn't know. I thought I was late and you were asleep.
Nicole Byer
Yeah. And then you could also say, I love your dog and I love your dog in the living room. But I do feel like I'm the one vacuuming a lot. So as a. Like, maybe we. We alternate days through vacuums or something. Or it's like, if you see dog hair, just like, before you go real quick, just vacuum and I'll do the same because I like your dog.
Sasheer Zamata
Yeah, I think that's good. That's a good way to compromise and hopefully they'll listen.
Nicole Byer
Yeah. And then if you do want to move out and you there. Another option is not having a conversation, but at least giving them like a month to find a new roommate.
Sasheer Zamata
Definitely. Definitely give them enough time to figure out if they're gonna stay in that place or find a new roommate.
Nicole Byer
Solved.
Sasheer Zamata
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Should we do one more?
Sasheer Zamata
One more. What's that painting back there on your wall behind the lane?
Nicole Byer
Oh, you better believe it is the movie poster of Ghost.
Sasheer Zamata
Of course.
Nicole Byer
And you better believe on the wall I'm facing, there is a portrait, a black and white portrait of Whoopi Goldberg and one of Patrick Swayze.
Sasheer Zamata
Wow. She's committed.
Nicole Byer
I love them. Okay. Hi, Sasheer and Nicole. No friendship questions here, but I needed Nicole to know that I saw someone on TikTok making their own Roller Crocs, and I immediately thought of her. Tick tock attached below. Love you both and look forward to your show every week. Ooh, thank you so much. That's gonna be very fun for me to watch. I get lost on TikTok. I Watch it. I just. I just. I like. I like it. I like the Vidyas. I posted one the other day of my own and guess what?
Sasheer Zamata
You actually posted one.
Nicole Byer
I just posted a pole dancing one. I don't think I'm gonna post anymore. I might just leave that one up forever. Yeah, I just. It seems tough, a tough thing to break into.
Sasheer Zamata
It's a whole other thing and you got to be consistent. And I just don't feel like doing that.
Nicole Byer
I don't have it in me. I'm too old.
Jordan
Do you want to see the video and you can react to it or.
Nicole Byer
Sure, let's see it.
Sasheer Zamata
Oh, they're like drilling it, really drilling.
Nicole Byer
Into this cross into this croc. Oh, wow. It's really going through it.
Sasheer Zamata
A lot of stress going through this. Oh, boy, oh, boy. Oh, oh, boy. This looks very unstable.
Nicole Byer
It doesn't look great. Is it because they don't have a sturdy bottom?
Sasheer Zamata
Why would they.
Nicole Byer
Ankle support.
Sasheer Zamata
But it's in sport mode.
Nicole Byer
It is in sport mode, but it.
Sasheer Zamata
Is not in sport mode.
Nicole Byer
No, they're in sport mode. But sport mode is keeping the shoe on for runs and moves. It's not supporting them ankles. I'm worried. Oh, God.
Sasheer Zamata
I'm very strange. Yeah. Oh, boy.
Nicole Byer
I'm stressed out.
Sasheer Zamata
Wow.
Nicole Byer
Okay. Thank you for thinking of me, but, boy, that did a number on me. Yeah.
Sasheer Zamata
Yeah. I wouldn't recommend anyone do that, but.
Nicole Byer
No, not at all.
Sasheer Zamata
Very cool to look at.
Nicole Byer
But that's it for this episode. So if you want to call, leave a voicemail or text us, you can call the number at 424-645-7003. We also have an email address if you like letters typed to words, and that is Nicole and Sasha. You know, I have a way with words that is unmatchable. Nicole and Sashear.
Sasheer Zamata
Gmail.com we also have merch at podswag.com/best friends.
Nicole Byer
Lastly, do not forget this one. You got a rate, you got a review, and you have got to subscribe. That is the easiest way to support this show, baby.
Sasheer Zamata
We also have a show at Largo in Los Angeles, Saturday, July 16, and you should come. Go to Largo-LA.com for tickets.
Nicole Byer
Yes.
Sasheer Zamata
All right.
Nicole Byer
See you later.
Sasheer Zamata
See you later.
Episode: "Nicole Probably Snored On A Plane" (Re-Release)
Date: November 27, 2024
Podcast Network: Headgum
This lively episode centers on Nicole and Sasheer's recent travel escapades, including harrowing and hilarious airplane stories, their adventures (and misadventures) in Mexico, and listener questions about friendships, breakups, and roommate drama. True to their vibrant and irreverent style, the friends riff on everything from snoring-induced sleep woes to airline lounge petty grievances and pilot nap statistics, all while delivering engaging life advice.
Caller Fern (They/Them):
Wants advice on emotionally processing their ex potentially dating again while trying to remain friends.
Caller 2:
Struggling with a roommate invading shared space, lacking in cleaning, and late-night noises from her roommate's FWB.
If you love the feeling of catching up with old friends who overshare travel nightmares, make fun of airlines, and give earnest advice punctuated with punchlines, “Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata” is can’t-miss audio. This episode encapsulates their effortless chemistry and signature wisdom-meets-chaos energy.