Nicole's In Her Pants Era

Summary

Podcast Summary

Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata

Episode: Nicole's In Her Pants Era
Date: November 5, 2025
Podcast Network: Headgum

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Overview of the Episode

In this candid, hilarious episode, Nicole and Sasheer dive into conversations about bodily changes, the quirks of cereal mascots, fashion transformations, sleep struggles, and the intricate dance of friendship as life changes. The hosts navigate their trademark blend of vulnerability and humor, sharing personal anecdotes about health, nostalgia, relationships, and what it means to grow alongside your best friend.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bodily Talk and Getting Older

• Early Episode (00:27–03:11):
  Nicole opens up about her missed morning routine, leading into a frank and comedic discussion about digestion, gynecologist visits, and how aging brings new bodily malfunctions.
  • Quote:

    "Getting older fucking blows. It does. I don't want it. I mean, I don't mind getting older. It's not like the age thing that gets me. It's just like the body starts malfunctioning like an old refrigerator."
    — Nicole (02:47)

• Sasheer connects body awareness to her directing 'The Vagina Monologues' in college.

2. Cereal Mascot Lore

• Mascots Get Personal (03:33–07:34):
  A long, playful exchange on the real names and histories of iconic cereal and snack mascots, revealing their comedic take on branding and commercial nostalgia.
  • Quote:

    "You're not wrong to think Cheetos should be in the name, but somehow it's not even. It's Chester and Cheetah."
    — Sasheer (03:47)

  • Discussion about Trix Rabbit, Cheerios Kid and Sue, Captain Crunch, and who they'd be as snack mascots.
    • Sasheer: Mermaid mascot for Cape Cod chips
    • Nicole: "Gooby" the Goobers lady

3. Nut Butter Deep Dive

• Nutty Ventures (09:21–10:47):
  Nicole shares her fascination with various nut butters, segues into a story about a date butter entrepreneur on Shark Tank, and the foibles of online shopping for niche foods.
  • Quote:

    "You butter any nut if you try."
    — Nicole (09:59)

  • Sasheer offers to set reminders to support Nicole’s culinary quest.

4. Calendar Mishaps and Sleep Struggles

• Life Organization (11:00–16:00):
  Conversation about being surprised by forgotten calendar events and their shared inability to fall asleep easily, with musings on catching the "sleep wave."
  • Quote:

    "Sometimes I'll just be in bed, eyes closed, not on the phone, nothing...and I'll look at my phone. I'm like, no, an hour and a half has passed, and I've just been laying here with my eyes closed."
    — Nicole (13:04)

  • Both debug the mysterious phenomenon of falling asleep easily after middle-of-the-night bathroom breaks compared to at bedtime.

5. Termite Trouble and Tangents

• Household Pests (16:03–19:43):
  Sasheer updates on dealing with a termite infestation, leading to a digression on how termites might prefer house wood because it’s "like the crusts cut off a sandwich."
  • Quote:

    "Do you think termites like housewood better? Because it's, like, cut up for them...It's like when you give a kid a PB and J, you cut the crust off."
    — Nicole (16:17, 16:29)

6. Food Storage in Pest Battles

• Food Storage (19:46–21:13):
  Nicole shares practical tips learned from fumigating her home; double bagging and taping food, giving away groceries, and the ongoing joke that Sasheer never has food at home.

7. The Pants Era & Refashioning Clothes

• Fashion Evolution (22:00–24:53):
  Sasheer suggests upcycling dresses into skirt-and-top sets, and making skirts into pants as a way to rejuvenate beloved but unworn clothes.
  • Quote:

    "Because I am in my pants era. But I'm like, what if I go back to my dress era?"
    — Nicole (24:53)

  • Sasheer mentions her journey converting a skirt into pants with a tailor.

8. Bringing Back "Player"

• Word Nostalgia (25:03–26:10):
  Hosts riff on reviving the term "player" and the unique way it’s used, noting a "Players Club" with an apostrophe signifying ownership.

9. Pole Dancing, The Sopranos, and Gendered Masculinity

• TV & Gender (26:11–29:15):
  Nicole opens up about watching The Sopranos, laughing at the club “Bada Bing” and its bee nipples logo, and discusses an episode’s surprising take on masculinity and oral sex.
  • Quote:

    "Fellas, is it gay to eat out a woman?"
    — Nicole (27:39)

  • They reflect on how TV tackles relationship dynamics and gender expectations.

10. Mob Movies, Friendships, and School Memories

• Pop Culture Tangents (29:15–32:01):
  Conversation broadens to mob movie recommendations, childhood TV favorites, and hilarious recollections of school dynamics and stereotypes.

11. BuzzFeed Quiz Interlude

• School Nostalgia (31:14–45:10):
  Nicole and Sasheer hilariously take a classic Bath & Body Works scent BuzzFeed quiz, reminiscing about school archetypes, childhood hairdos, lip gloss flavors, and sharing cringeworthy school crush stories.
  • Quote:

    "I drew a picture of Foghorn Leghorn and I wrote...I tried to write, you're my sweetie, but I spelled it like sweat...the teacher intercepted it and he was like, 'you're my sweaty girl.'"
    — Sasheer (39:05)

12. Listener Questions

a) Friendship Drifting When Romantic Timelines Change (47:06–54:10)

• Listener worries about drifting apart from a best friend after friend enters her first relationship.
  • Nicole and Sasheer share their own adjustment period, reaffirm the normalcy of change, and suggest open communication and self-focus.
  • Quote:

    “Keep both bookmark in there...maybe communicating how you feel could be helpful too."
    — Sasheer (51:36, 51:49)

  • They stress the importance of discussing feelings and setting intentions for “friend time.”

b) Classroom Mottos & Mantras (54:42–55:56)

• Future teacher asks for kid-appropriate mottos.
  • Hosts praise:

    "I like myself. I'm worth a lot. And you can't tell me that I'm not."

    • Both agree; Nicole’s is “Just keep swimming.”

c) Losing a Longstanding Friendship over Religion & Sexuality (56:41–64:08)

• Listener wonders if a lifelong friendship is lost after friend declines to attend his gay wedding due to religious reasons.
  • The hosts advise a direct, vulnerable conversation, acknowledge shifting values as part of adulthood, validate the listener’s sadness, and hope for new supportive communities.
  • Quote:

    “It’s growing up—you change as a person, your friend changes as a person, and you start realizing your value systems…and if they don’t align, it’s possible you can’t really have this person in your life.”
    — Sasheer (61:20)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Mascot Naming Confusion:

  "Tony the Tiger. He's not the Frosted Flakes Tiger. He's just Tony."
  — Nicole (04:06)

• On Sleep:

  "I can feel like a wave happening...this is probably when my body wants to go to sleep, but because I noticed it now, I'm not going to sleep."
  — Sashir (13:36)

• On Pant Eras:

  "Maybe make them into pants. Because I am in my pants era."
  — Nicole (24:53)

• On Changing Friendships:

  “I think my advice is, since you are now on different chapters, maybe you close the book a little bit and keep your eyes on your own paper.”
  — Nicole (51:36)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:27–03:11: Bodily changes & aging talk
• 03:33–07:34: Deep dive into cereal mascots
• 09:21–10:47: Nut butter experiments & Shark Tank tangent
• 11:00–16:00: Calendar mishaps, sleep struggles
• 16:03–19:43: Termite troubles, pest banter
• 22:00–24:53: Pants era & refashioning clothing
• 26:11–29:15: The Sopranos, masculinity, and TV tropes
• 31:14–45:10: BuzzFeed quiz, school memories & crushes
• 47:06–54:10: Listener Q1: Navigating romantic timeline shifts with friends
• 54:42–55:56: Listener Q2: Classroom mantras
• 56:41–64:08: Listener Q3: Friendship issues—religion, sexuality, and endings

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Tone and Style

The episode is lighthearted and riff-heavy, blending Nicole’s bold comedy with Sasheer’s gentle snark and insight. They aren’t afraid of tenderness while staying ruthlessly silly. The energy is warm, relatable, and deeply honest—a true testament to best friendship.

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Takeaway

“Nicole’s In Her Pants Era” is a celebration of evolving bodies, friendships, and wardrobes—with plenty of hearty laughs. Whether you’re struggling to fall asleep, facing friendship growing pains, or deciding whether to keep old dresses, Nicole and Sasheer remind us: change is normal, honesty helps, and it’s always worth laughing about life’s messes—with your best friend by your side.

Transcript

[Host/Interviewer]

This is a Headgum podcast. This is a Headgun podcast.

[Nicole]

Hello, Sashir. Hello, Nicole. How are you?

[Host/Interviewer]

I'm good.

[Sashir]

How are you?

[Nicole]

You know, I'm okay. I didn't have my morning poop this morning.

[Sashir]

Do you feel stopped up?

[Nicole]

Not stopped up, but I feel full.

[Sashir]

Yeah, it's not great.

[Nicole]

No. So when I get home, I'mma release the beast.

[Sashir]

I'm excited for you to release the beast.

[Nicole]

I didn't want to do it here.

[Sashir]

Yeah, please don't.

[Nicole]

You know, I didn't want to leave a treat in the bathroom for somebody.

[Sashir]

One time I went to the gynecologist, and I was like, I. There's a. I was like, there's a mass somewhere when I feel it over here. And she was like, that could be poop. And I was like, excuse me.

[Nicole]

Excuse me.

[Sashir]

Excuse me. I was like, no, there's no way. And then. Yeah, it was just. I was just stopped up.

[Nicole]

Oh, no. You could feel it.

[Sashir]

Like, if I put my fingers up there, I could feel it on the other side.

[Nicole]

I'm. What, in your pussy?

[Sashir]

Like, behind it? I don't know. I don't know where it was, but I was like, here or. No, in front.

[Nicole]

I don't know.

[Sashir]

On top of it.

[Nicole]

Oh.

[Sashir]

But I was like, there's a mass here. And she's like, probably poop.

[Nicole]

Interesting. I. You know how they're like, do breast exams and whatnot and, like, feel your body and make sure there's no, like, random lumps and new stuff. I don't know my body well enough to know what's new.

[Sashir]

I think I. I think I do, because I. And maybe it's because I directed the Vagina Monologues in college.

[Nicole]

There we go. That's why, you know.

[Sashir]

Yeah. And it was like, there's a whole section about, like, looking at yourself in the mirror and, like, knowing what's going on with your body. So, yeah, I do, like, tend to be like, oh, that's a new mole. Or like, that's a new this. Or like, oh, I. You know, this is different. A new thing's happening where when my period's coming, the lymph node in my left armpit starts hurting. Oh, yeah, I want to get my breasts checked. And I was like, like. I was like, well, I wasn't concerned, but I was like, yeah, there's lumps. Blah, blah, blah. Also, my armpit hurts.

[Nicole]

And.

[Sashir]

And she was like, is your period coming? I was like, yeah. And she's like, that's normal.

[Nicole]

I was like, is it? That's normal. It wasn't before. This shit sucks.

[Sashir]

It sucks.

[Nicole]

Getting older fucking blows. It does. I don't want it. I mean, I don't mind getting older. It's not like the age thing that gets me. It's just like the body starts malfunctioning like an old refrigerator.

[Sashir]

Yeah. I was like, why is this light on?

[Nicole]

Yes.

[Sashir]

What does that mean?

[Nicole]

What does it mean? And I'm like, did bodies back in the day do this?

[Sashir]

Interesting.

[Nicole]

Or is it, like, the shit we're eating that breaks us down faster?

[Sashir]

Well, we're definitely living longer than we used to, so I think maybe they didn't reach. Always reach this point.

[Nicole]

And.

[Sashir]

And definitely food. Yeah, I'm sure the food is not helping.

[Nicole]

No, we're eating Cheetos and shit. But I love Cheetos.

[Sashir]

Cheetah the Cheetah.

[Nicole]

Cheeto. There he is. Cheetah the Cheetah. Chester the Cheeto.

[Sashir]

Chester the Cheetah.

[Nicole]

I constantly get it wrong, and this is like, the eighth time we've talked about it on this podcast.

[Sashir]

You're not wrong to think Cheetos should be in the name, but somehow it's not even. It's Chester and Cheetah.

[Nicole]

And honestly, it is a genius name. Chester the Cheetah for Cheetos. Tony the Tiger. He's not the Frosted Flakes Tiger. He's just Tony.

[Sashir]

That's it. Yeah, that's a good point.

[Nicole]

And then Toucan Sam. He's not the Fruit Loop. He's not Toucan Fruit Loop.

[Sashir]

He should be too.

[Nicole]

And I feel like all the mascots should have the name Ish of the brand kind of in there. Yeah.

[Sashir]

Chester the Cheetah is the closest.

[Nicole]

Yes.

[Sashir]

Which maybe they just named Cheeto after a cheetah. Maybe they started with the mascot first, maybe, and then created the name.

[Nicole]

That would be insane. At Frito Lay, they were like, huh, this fun Cheetah. What could he represent?

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Let's bioengineer an orange treat for everybody and call him Cheat Cheetahs.

[Sashir]

Maybe like, the CEO's kid drew a cheetah, and he's like, okay, got it. I'm gonna make something around this. My kid's the best.

[Nicole]

I love my fucking kid.

[Sashir]

Your dreams.

[Nicole]

And then there's the rabbit. Trix.

[Sashir]

Trix is Tricks are for kids. Yeah. Which is the rabbit named Tricks? Or is.

[Nicole]

What's.

[Sashir]

Does the rabbit have a name?

[Nicole]

I think it's Tricks the rabbit.

[Sashir]

Yeah. Yeah. Does Trix. Does the rabbit have a name?

[Host/Interviewer]

No, the Trix rabbit is not given an official formal name. In the commercials, he's only referred to as the. The Silly Rabbit or the Trix Rabbit.

[Nicole]

Oh, Silly Rabbit. Tricks are for kids.

[Sashir]

Mean, they don't even ask his name.

[Nicole]

They don't ask his name and then they won't give him cereal.

[Sashir]

It's rude.

[Nicole]

And he can scoop, I think.

[Sashir]

But they're like, no, this is for children, not for silly rabbits.

[Nicole]

Whoa. Insulting him and withholding.

[Sashir]

It's speciesist.

[Nicole]

It is speciesist. And then what does Cheerios have?

[Sashir]

The Honeybee. I guess it's Honey Nut. Cheerios. Yeah. Specifically. But do the other Cheerios have things?

[Nicole]

I don't know.

[Sashir]

I like the Honeybee.

[Nicole]

I don't know if. I don't think I know what the Honeybee looks like.

[Sashir]

It's like a big yellow head.

[Nicole]

And.

[Sashir]

Kind of like a reddish body. Even though I think, am I thinking of.

[Nicole]

Yeah. Am I right?

[Host/Interviewer]

So the bee is named Buzz Bee.

[Sashir]

Had no idea.

[Host/Interviewer]

And before he flew onto the cereal scene, Cheerios. Cheerios had a little boy and girl as their brand mascot.

[Sashir]

Never knew.

[Host/Interviewer]

And they were named the Cheerios Kid and Sue.

[Sashir]

That's so funny. Sue has a name.

[Nicole]

But the other ones is the Cheerio Kid and Sue and his friend Sue. That's so funny. I like that. Sue's a full fledged character with a name and then the boy is just the Cheerios Kid.

[Sashir]

It's very rare that the female character.

[Nicole]

Gets a full development recognized with the name and whatnot. God, that's so funny.

[Sashir]

And then child number two. What other ones are there? Captain Crunch.

[Nicole]

Yeah, the captain.

[Sashir]

I'm assuming he's the captain. Or is he? Captain Crunch? Is his last name Crunch?

[Nicole]

I think his. His last name probably is crunch.

[Sashir]

Mr. Crunch.

[Nicole]

Georgie crunch.

[Sashir]

Yeah, Captain Georgie Crunch.

[Nicole]

If you could be a mascot for anything other than TAs, what would you be?

[Sashir]

I feel like it had to be some kind of chip maybe. Like what chips? What chips would I be? I do like the Cape Cod chips. I just be on a boat.

[Nicole]

Oh, yeah.

[Sashir]

Waving from.

[Host/Interviewer]

From.

[Sashir]

From the sea.

[Nicole]

Passengers this year.

[Sashir]

Or sailor says year. I'm trying to think of nautical terms. Or maybe captain. I could be a captain.

[Nicole]

Yeah. You know you're a woman.

[Sashir]

That's true.

[Nicole]

You're a passenger.

[Sashir]

Yeah. A mermaid actually.

[Nicole]

Oh, the mermaid of Cape Cod.

[Sashir]

I don't hate it.

[Nicole]

I like it. Yeah, I'm into it.

[Sashir]

Yeah. What would you do?

[Nicole]

Well, I really like the honey bunches of oats lady. She's just a lady who works in the factory.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

So I think I want to Be like a lady. Just a lady. And I think I want to be the mascot for Goobers.

[Sashir]

Oh, yes.

[Nicole]

I love Goobers. Chocolate covered peanuts without a shell.

[Sashir]

Okay. Okay.

[Nicole]

And I'll just be. I'll be the Goober lady. I'll be gooby.

[Sashir]

Will you be like a lady in the factory or are you a lady in the headquarters? Are you a lady in the delivery wing?

[Nicole]

I'm a lady who's packing the boxes and making sure that itty bitty little peanuts get in. And then big conglomerates get in.

[Sashir]

Nice.

[Nicole]

Because that's the fun of Goobers.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

When you knock them out of the box, some are huge, some are so small.

[Sashir]

Diversity.

[Nicole]

Diversity in the nut world. I love nuts. I, you know, nuts are so good. I understand George Washington Carver's obsession.

[Sashir]

Yeah. He made so much, especially with the peanut.

[Nicole]

Such a versatile nut.

[Sashir]

Really versatile.

[Nicole]

And I love that he never looked at another nut. He wasn't like walnuts.

[Sashir]

Like, we haven't tapped out the full potential of this other.

[Nicole]

Is there walnut butter? I know there's almond butter, sunflower seed butter. I don't know if there's pecan butter.

[Sashir]

I don't know. I feel like I only heard of almond butter. Do you mind looking?

[Nicole]

Is there a walnut butter there?

[Host/Interviewer]

There is a pecan butter.

[Sashir]

Okay.

[Host/Interviewer]

I'm looking at walnut. Yes, there's walnut butter.

[Nicole]

I'm gonna have to try that.

[Sashir]

Maybe you can butter anything.

[Nicole]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Or at least butter any nut.

[Nicole]

You butter any nut if you try. So funny. I have been watching a lot of Shark Tank clips on. On YouTube and there was a woman who made date butter.

[Sashir]

That sounds really good.

[Nicole]

It did sound good. And the sharks weren't into it.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And then they, like, insulted her and I really didn't like it. So then I was like, I'll support her. I'm going to see where her nut butters are. And then I found it on one website and it didn't take American Express. And then I gave up.

[Sashir]

Yeah, you gotta make it easier just a little bit.

[Nicole]

But I think the company went out of business and I'm pretty bummed about it because I wanted to taste this date butter.

[Sashir]

Yeah. I'm curious because dates are really sweet, so I wonder if it's sweet butter.

[Nicole]

Oh, sweet. And she ate like a date chocolate butter. And I was like, that sounds really nice. I'm going to try again when I get home, if I remember. But I think we all know how that's gonna go.

[Sashir]

I'll text you and be like, did you figure it out?

[Nicole]

Oh, that would be nice.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And don't do it today.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Hold it in your heart for when you're ready.

[Sashir]

I'll. I'll put it in my calendar and say, text Nicole about date.

[Nicole]

And send the screenshot. That'll make me laugh.

[Sashir]

Okay, good.

[Nicole]

Oh, boy. I don't think there's anything in my calendar coming up that I don't know about.

[Sashir]

We'll see.

[Nicole]

Yeah, we'll see. Each day is a mystery. Have you ever fallen asleep without looking at what you have to do the next day, and then when you woke up, been really surprised?

[Sashir]

I'm sure I have, but since I've been using a phone calendar, it's pretty, like, in my. In my muscle memory of my fingers to go to my calendar, be like, what am I doing in the morning? Just to make sure I know what time I'm supposed to wake up.

[Nicole]

I usually do that, but there's been times where I didn't.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And then I've, like, woken up, and I'm like, wow, I woke up early. It's 10. And then look at my calendar and been like, man, I gotta do something in 20 minutes.

[Sashir]

Oh, no.

[Nicole]

Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord. Better lay here.

[Sashir]

But that's like. It feels like a. Like a level of confidence of like. Like I. I don't have anything to do. Like, just knowing, just. Just believing.

[Nicole]

I'm good.

[Sashir]

I'll just let my body rise when it rises and see what happens.

[Nicole]

Sometimes I do that, and I'm like, I. Thursday. I probably don't have anything to do. Guess what? I do. I have several things to do.

[Sashir]

I feel like you have things to do every day.

[Nicole]

Yes. Yes. And sometimes I'm like, I don't.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And I think that's me being like, maybe it's my body going, I need a rest.

[Sashir]

Yeah, for sure.

[Nicole]

I'm not even gonna look because I know I don't have anything to do. I'm gonna get to rest.

[Sashir]

Your body's sabo. Like, just don't go. Don't go. Stay in the bed longer, please.

[Nicole]

It's because I don't go to sleep at night. It's really tough.

[Sashir]

Yeah. Are you, like, in bed, eyes open, or is it like you're doing stuff and can't go to sleep?

[Nicole]

Sometimes I'll just be in bed, eyes closed, not on the phone, nothing. And then I'll be like, maybe 15 minutes has passed, and I'll look at my phone. I'm like, no, an hour and a half has passed, and I've just been laying Here with my eyes closed and I just will not honk you.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

I truly will not just go to sleep. It sucks.

[Sashir]

It does suck.

[Nicole]

It's a real treat though, when I get in bed and then close my eyes and then when I open them, it's morning and I'm like, whoa, it happened. Whoa. I just went to sleep.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

That's nice.

[Sashir]

I lately have been noticing that. Okay, let's see if I know how to describe this. So I'm trying to fall asleep and I can feel like a wave happening like across my body. Where it's like, this is probably when my body wants to go to sleep, but because I noticed it now, I'm not going to sleep.

[Nicole]

Yup.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Yeah. What is that? I don't know. It happens all the time.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

I'm like, oh, this is it. This. I'm like, shutting down. And then I'm like, but what if I think about something, about what happened earlier when I said something weird? Yeah, why did I say that? I don't know. Well, it's passed. Now I gotta struggle again, try to get that wave to happen again. I'm like, where's that wave?

[Sashir]

Yeah. I wonder if there's a way to notice the wave and, like, ride it. Can you ride the wave? Can you ride the sleep wave? Can you actually, like, follow it? Yeah. Because that happened actually last two nights where I'm like, there it is. Oh, nope, it's gone.

[Nicole]

Yeah. I don't know. Here's the thing. In the morning I can. So, okay, if I wake up at like six to go pee or whatever, I can fully ride that wave right back to sleep, no issues. And then slumber so hard for so long and it'll be like, I won't hear my alarm or anything. I'm like, back in it.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And I don't know how to make that happen for nighttime.

[Sashir]

Yeah. Hmm. Maybe you should go to bed at.

[Nicole]

6Pm much earlier and then just struggle from 6pm till midnight.

[Sashir]

And then when you wake up to go to the bathroom at midnight, then.

[Nicole]

You can go back to sleep. There has been times where I've been so tuckered out. I'm like, it's 8pm, it's dark out. I'm. I'm going to hit the hay and then wake up at 3am and I'm like, well, that's all the sleep I needed. I guess I'm now up doing stuff.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And then fall back asleep at like 6 and then wake up at noon and I'm like, well, now I.

[Sashir]

It Up.

[Nicole]

I have up the sleep schedule. Oh, girl, girl, girl.

[Sashir]

We're gonna have a sleepover soon.

[Nicole]

We are gonna have a sleepover soon. Cause the circus is coming to town. To your house?

[Sashir]

Yeah. Circus is pitching a tent above my house.

[Nicole]

Gotta tent that house for termites.

[Sashir]

I have termites and it fucking sucks and it's gross and feels like bleh. But I wanna save my house. I have to get the invaders out.

[Nicole]

Yes. But, yeah, termites are so weird and gross. They eat your house.

[Sashir]

Like, don't you want to eat food?

[Nicole]

Get right. Get.

[Sashir]

Go outside.

[Nicole]

Yeah, go in a tree outside.

[Sashir]

Don't eat my house.

[Nicole]

There's so many trees.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Why do you. Do you think. Oh, my God. Do you think termites like housewood better? Because it's, like, cut up for them. It's like, already, like, filleted. There's no bark.

[Sashir]

It's like when you give a kid a PB and J, you cut the crust off.

[Nicole]

Houses of the cuscrato, cuz. Oh, my God. The crusts cut off of trees. That was.

[Sashir]

That's pretty. Yeah, you try to say it. The houses with the crust cut off. But I had to think about it.

[Nicole]

It was tough, but we did it. We did it. We persevered.

[Sashir]

We got there.

[Nicole]

Maybe.

[Sashir]

Or maybe there's like some sort of. Maybe if the wood's, like, treated, it tastes different than the natural tree wood that's outside.

[Nicole]

Maybe they're just like. The sealant on these floors is something. This shit's spicy as hell. Hey, Julia. Freddie. Come on in. Oh, yeah. And I don't even know what a termite looks like.

[Sashir]

I do, unfortunately.

[Nicole]

What do they look like?

[Sashir]

They look like moths, kind of. But they're just kind of like, tiny.

[Nicole]

They have wings.

[Sashir]

They have wings. Yeah.

[Nicole]

Termites have. They're flying around in.

[Sashir]

They can. They're not flying in my home. I saw a carcass of one because I guess it like, you know, that my. The. The pest control fumigated for ants. But thankfully, I think the fumigation also works, hopefully for termites. They crawled out of some hole and just died. And I was like, disgusting. And then I asked a. The pest person, I was like, is that a termite? And they're like, yeah, yeah, it is.

[Nicole]

Oh, nasty. That is nasty.

[Sashir]

But I have seen on Reddit people being like, yeah, termites were flying around my house.

[Nicole]

That is deeply fucking upsetting. Yeah. Ugh. Ally, I have a question. Can you make things happen there? Yeah, I would like to see what a termite looks like.

[Sashir]

And there's two different ones. There's a subterranean termite and a. What is it called? Wood. Dry wood. Termite, I think.

[Nicole]

What's subterranean?

[Sashir]

Underground.

[Nicole]

Underground.

[Sashir]

And then. Yeah, I guess the wood one is just. Could be any wood.

[Nicole]

Ugh. Yeah. Oh.

[Sashir]

Ew.

[Nicole]

Yeah. Termites look nasty as hell.

[Sashir]

I think there's.

[Nicole]

There's a.

[Sashir]

The one that's, like, below that one. That one has, like, I think, the different variations. Yuck.

[Nicole]

Yes.

[Sashir]

The one with wings is what I saw.

[Nicole]

Oh, an inch. They're big boys. Ew, Ew, ew, ew, ew. I simply don't like them.

[Sashir]

And they, like, like, procreate by the thousands every day.

[Nicole]

Every day.

[Sashir]

Every day.

[Nicole]

Get off her. What are they? Rihanna. Good Lord. Every day.

[Sashir]

Every day.

[Nicole]

Doesn't it feel like Rihanna's had a baby? Every day?

[Sashir]

Kind of does, yeah.

[Nicole]

I'm glad she's happy.

[Sashir]

I am too.

[Nicole]

She looks.

[Sashir]

She looks great.

[Nicole]

She does look great. She's turning out looks, and she's accessorizing with that belly. Boy, oh, boy.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Yikes.

[Sashir]

That's what's happening in my floors and walls.

[Nicole]

I'm so sorry. God bless.

[Sashir]

I know.

[Nicole]

I had to do it a couple months ago.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And it is a lot of work because the pesticides they use is toxic to us. So you can't be in the house for, I think it's, like, 48 hours. They put notices everywhere that's, like, don't come into this house. And you have to double bag your food.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And then you. I thought it was enough to just, like, fold it over, but you have.

[Sashir]

To close it, like, twist.

[Nicole]

Twist it and tape it down with, like, duct tape.

[Sashir]

Oh, wow.

[Nicole]

Um. Or it's like, get rid of all the food in your house. So I had a. A big old giveaway and gave food to that nice man who's nice to me.

[Sashir]

There you go.

[Nicole]

I said, here, take this chicken. Take the. He took so much.

[Sashir]

That's great. I mean, thankfully, I rarely have food in my house, so I don't have much to do.

[Nicole]

You sure do never have food. You sure do.

[Sashir]

You sure do never have food. I sure do.

[Nicole]

I love it. You'll have, like, a loose Lacroix.

[Sashir]

They'll be like, you can just throw that.

[Nicole]

Throw that. You can throw that right away. And then I feel like you always have limoncello. That flavor, probably.

[Sashir]

It's, like, usually left over from a party or something. I don't drink it, but they're always there.

[Nicole]

One or two of them.

[Sashir]

I can bring them over if you want?

[Nicole]

Oh, you got. You got some now.

[Sashir]

I think I do. I'm pretty sure I do.

[Nicole]

Yeah. Bring them on over.

[Sashir]

Okay.

[Nicole]

I'll be chugging them.

[Sashir]

Great.

[Nicole]

Glug, glug. Unless it's limoncello, so. My least favorite.

[Sashir]

I'll check and see.

[Nicole]

Actually, you can bring it over. I'll drink it or someone else will drink it. Yeah, it's. I always like to have different flobbers of things for people as well.

[Sashir]

Exactly. They get a choice.

[Nicole]

Yes. And that's what we all want in life. Choices. Where are these jeans from?

[Sashir]

I can't remember. I think that. I think from some shoot and I.

[Nicole]

They're good. I like them.

[Sashir]

Thank you. Yeah, I was like, wanting to wear a jean, and these are the loosest ones I have.

[Host/Interviewer]

Mm.

[Nicole]

You don't like being restricted?

[Sashir]

I really don't. I need to be free. Gotta be ready for anything. Gotta move.

[Nicole]

I have been going through my closet and, like, purging and getting rid of stuff, and I simply cannot get rid of my dresses that I don't wear anymore.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And I don't know why I did.

[Sashir]

See, I'm gonna try this with a dress that I like and don't really want to wear anymore.

[Lamorne Morris]

The.

[Sashir]

I saw this video where this woman took her dresses and got a tailor to split them. So it was a crop top and then a skirt. So it's like a set. So if you want to revamp it, have a different vibe with the same. Same dress, you could do that.

[Nicole]

Maybe I'll try that out. Maybe I'll take them on over to Hamlet.

[Sashir]

I also got with Hamlet a skirt made into pants. Is it blowing your.

[Nicole]

Blowing your mind? No.

[Sashir]

She's malfunctioning. No.

[Nicole]

And I pass right away. And do you enjoy how the. The pants fit?

[Sashir]

I do. It was a journey to get there. But, yeah, eventually he figured out because there was a lining and the overlay of the skirt. So we had to, like, alter two things. But eventually we got there, and now. They're cute pants.

[Nicole]

Oh. All right. I would like to see these pants.

[Sashir]

I will show you these pants.

[Nicole]

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[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

But I'm like, what if I go back to my dress era?

[Sashir]

Interesting.

[Nicole]

I don't know.

[Sashir]

Yeah, maybe. Only pants up some of them. Not all of them.

[Nicole]

Pants up.

[Sashir]

Only pants up some of them.

[Nicole]

Only pants up some of them. That was a while.

[Sashir]

You better pants up.

[Nicole]

Hey, man, you better pants up. Player.

[Sashir]

Player.

[Nicole]

Why ain't you pantsed up?

[Host/Interviewer]

Player?

[Nicole]

Don't fall back on me.

[Sashir]

Do you like that?

[Nicole]

We gotta bring the word play it back. Why don't we stop saying player?

[Sashir]

I don't know. It's really fun.

[Nicole]

Remember in Vegas, we saw a strip club called the Players Club. Oh, yes. But with an apostrophe, meaning that the man's name was. The man's name was. Yeah, Play. Or it was one singular player who owned the club.

[Sashir]

This player owns the club. It's Players Club.

[Nicole]

Players Club. I've been watching the Sopranos, and there's a club in it called Bada Bing. And the logo, it's Bada Bang. And the bees have nipples on it.

[Sashir]

Oh, boy.

[Nicole]

Rocked my socks. I was like, I gotta get merch. I'm late. So I don't know if they still have the merch.

[Sashir]

Maybe a little. You may have missed the winter.

[Nicole]

I may have, but it really blew. It was so. It made me laugh so hard.

[Sashir]

Yeah, I mean, that is.

[Nicole]

And the girls who dance at Pas de Bing. Very bad. There's three at a time. They're just like, hold the pole. No one's doing any sort of trick.

[Sashir]

Well, it's probably because they're just, like, background actors.

[Nicole]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Or like, I would imagine maybe they didn't hire actual exotic dancers.

[Nicole]

No, probably not.

[Sashir]

They should have. Yeah, I should.

[Nicole]

I think we always should if there's, you know, an exotic dance scene. Let's pro. Let's get them pros in there. I just watched an episode where one Of I'm not ruining anything. But one of the. The men high up, he's the boss and he eats. And apparently eating is not, like, a masculine trait in the. In the community at the time, I guess, because he was like, you don't tell anyone what I do. And she was like, oh, okay. But then she had told her nail girl that she gets eaten out all the time. And then she's like, she can't talk about that anymore. But then it gets to his nephew, Tony Soprano's wife, carmela. And then Carmela tells him. And then they're, like, laughing about it and whatnot. And then he breaks up with her in the wildest way possible that I won't spoil. He breaks up with her in a truly, truly a wild way. And because she told people that he eats.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh, no.

[Nicole]

And he doesn't want to be seen as, like, somebody who's less than. And I was like, fellas, is it gay to eat out a woman?

[Sashir]

What, like your partner?

[Nicole]

Like, what?

[Sashir]

What.

[Nicole]

What are we doing?

[Sashir]

Oh, man. But the other women who were spreading this around, Were they like, I would like to be eaten out? Like, were they jealous? Were they like, that sounds nice. I wish my man would eat me out.

[Nicole]

The nail girl was like, well, you're lucky, because, you know, he's always going down on you. And she's like, don't talk about it. And then Carmela didn't seem like it was a thing she wanted all the time.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And then Tony's like, what happens in this bedroom stays in this bedroom. And she was like, oh, because I'm going to talk about something that happens once a year. And I was like, damn. I gotta say, everyone has a toxic relationship on the show. It's really wild and I love it. I'm having a nice time. You. I think you'd like it.

[Sashir]

I did watch the first season. I remember that storyline too, but I. I can't remember why I stopped, But I liked it. It's great.

[Nicole]

I can't wait to see more.

[Sashir]

I can't wait for you to see more.

[Nicole]

And I love how Tony soprano is always hitting people. His hands are oven mitts. They're so big, and it's just like, da duf. And I'm like, imagine doing scenes where you gotta get hit over and over and over again by these. These oven mitts. So I think we got it. We have it.

[Sashir]

Al.

[Nicole]

I have a bruise.

[Sashir]

Yeah. He's so good.

[Nicole]

He was so good. And I love the therapist. Yeah. Lorraine Brocco. I don't know I think that's her name, Braco. She's in Good Fellas, and she's so good in Good Fellas.

[Sashir]

Oh, nice.

[Nicole]

Have you seen Good Fellas?

[Sashir]

I haven't.

[Nicole]

Oh, my God. It's a great movie.

[Sashir]

I'm really out of the, like, mob genre game.

[Nicole]

Love, Mob love. Love, love. I watch Mob Wives when it first aired on VH1. Big Ang is one of the best.

[Sashir]

I've heard of Big Ange.

[Nicole]

I love Big Ang. I love guys who just got out of prison because they want to buy you things because they haven't been able to buy anything.

[Sashir]

That's really.

[Nicole]

She's great. Oh, I miss her. God rest her soul. He took one of the good ones.

[Sashir]

That's true. Have you seen the Godfather?

[Nicole]

I have not seen the Godfather, but I've heard the Godfather is good.

[Sashir]

I've heard good things.

[Nicole]

I've heard Godfather 2. Very, very good. Heard Godfather 3. Not as good as 1 and 2.

[Sashir]

Oh, interesting.

[Nicole]

I want to make you a deal. I think that's from the Godfather.

[Sashir]

Is it?

[Host/Interviewer]

I want to make you an offer.

[Nicole]

Oh, hey, here's a deal. Hey, let's make a deal. Oh, I got the deals. Should we do, like, a buzzfeed quiz? We haven't done one in a while.

[Sashir]

Let's do it, Allie.

[Nicole]

Is that something we can do?

[Host/Interviewer]

100%.

[Sashir]

I feel like I have a hard time following the family dynamics and the rules of a mob.

[Nicole]

Hmm.

[Sashir]

You know?

[Nicole]

Yeah. Well, there's one boss.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And then I think they're called consiglieres, which is underneath the boss. And the boss makes decisions. It's their job to, like, carry them out. But they. They're not the ones carrying them out. The soldiers are. And they're all called maid men, which means that they are, like, brought into the family. And then you have, like, associates who are not exactly made men, but they. They're like bottom. Bottom tier people who are in the world but not officially apart.

[Sashir]

Whoa.

[Nicole]

It's interesting.

[Sashir]

That is interesting.

[Nicole]

Okay, which classic Bath and Body Works scent are you? Oh, boy. I hope I Moonlit Path.

[Sashir]

Is it purple?

[Nicole]

Yes.

[Sashir]

I could, like, visualize it.

[Nicole]

It is purple. Okay, you're home sick. What show are you putting on?

[Sashir]

Nickelodeon. Which is a network, not a show.

[Nicole]

Mori. That's a show. Boy Meets World.

[Sashir]

Also a show. Our Lives a Different World.

[Nicole]

Young and the Restless. Law and Order, 90210. I am going to put on A Different World. I loved A Different World.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

I also love Law and Order.

[Sashir]

I'm going to put Mori I feel that's a good, like, sick day kind of watch.

[Nicole]

I loved Mori and Ricky Lake and Jenny Jones.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

There was one episode of Ricki Lake where I'll never forget it. It was like, yeah, I've got crazy hair and I'm never gonna change. And a lady had a working helicopter sculpted into her hair. I love that with the propellers going. And I remember being like, I don't know, eight or nine. Being like, that's my future. That's. That's what I want.

[Sashir]

Your teacher asks for strong boys. Your teacher asked for, quote unquote, strong, strong boys to help carry chairs. What do you do? Sit there.

[Nicole]

You aren't a strong boy.

[Sashir]

Couldn't be talking about me.

[Nicole]

I'm not a strong boy.

[Sashir]

Grab two chairs in each arm.

[Nicole]

Quiet. Quietly admonish for sexism.

[Sashir]

Grab a chair, but only for yourself.

[Nicole]

Tell her out loud that girls can be strong.

[Sashir]

Complain about it with your friends.

[Nicole]

Secretly wish you were a strong boy.

[Sashir]

Be a smarty pants for the rest of class to impress the teacher in a different way.

[Nicole]

I'm absolutely sitting there because I'm not a strong boy.

[Sashir]

You're very strong, though.

[Nicole]

I know, but I'm not helping.

[Sashir]

I see. I would say, I would honestly probably try to grab two just to prove everyone wrong. I am a strong boy.

[Nicole]

I'll show you. Secretly wish you were a strong boy. Oh, boy. Oh, I wish I was a strong boy. So funny. What school stereotype were you?

[Sashir]

The athlete slash tomboy.

[Nicole]

The prissy girl? The bully? The nerd?

[Sashir]

The class clown?

[Nicole]

The stoner slash slacker?

[Sashir]

The sensitive artist.

[Nicole]

I defied stereotypes. Even as a youngin class clown. I was always yammering on about something. Truly just a real nightmare for teachers.

[Sashir]

I could see you being a class clown.

[Nicole]

Thank you. I was not voted class clown or Broadway bound or revoted nothing. I didn't get a single superlative.

[Sashir]

Oh, my goodness.

[Nicole]

And it really stayed with me.

[Sashir]

I'm so sorry.

[Nicole]

Thank you.

[Sashir]

I got voted most likely to be a news anchor, and I'm kind of doing that.

[Nicole]

Yeah. Look at you. Yeah. Yeah. You're presenting the news.

[Sashir]

This just in what? School stereotypes, which also. I was probably voted that because I did do the school news, which is like. That's a lazy one. It is like that.

[Nicole]

She does the news so she'll do more of that news anchor.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

That's so funny.

[Sashir]

I was the nerd for sure. Now.

[Nicole]

Was it a televised news?

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And everyone had to watch it in the beginning.

[Sashir]

Couldn't tell you what kind of news a Middle school would have, but they.

[Nicole]

Cut the lawn again. Baseball won. Baseball one, track lost. Probably that. Actually, Susan Spearmint came in first in this shot put. I don't know.

[Sashir]

Susan Spearmint, definitely. When purchasing lip gloss from the beauty supply store, what flavor did you get? Cherry, strawberry, grape, pina colada, slash coconut, lemon, peach, green, apple, Clear slash, no flavor.

[Nicole]

Here's the thing. I'd pick up the grape and then wonder what it would look like on my lips. Put it down and get strawberry.

[Sashir]

Oh, because you like the flavor better.

[Nicole]

And then grape is usually purple, but I'm like, with my tones, is it going to go on clear? Will it have, like, a purpley texture?

[Sashir]

Yeah, yeah. That's a hard one. I would probably say clear slash, no flavor. I'm not a flavor girl.

[Nicole]

You're not a flavor head on your lips.

[Sashir]

I'm not a flavor head on my lips? No. I think because I remember, like, trying lip smackers, and they're always so sweet, and I was like, I don't feel like I'm eating my lips.

[Nicole]

Whoa. I want to eat my lips. I want that flavor.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

What was your signature hairstyle in elementary school?

[Sashir]

A simple, no fussy ponytail.

[Nicole]

Twists or braids with ballies and barrettes. An intricate braided style shortcut that framed your face.

[Sashir]

French braid, Unbound curls, long down your back.

[Nicole]

One or two puff balls. In elementary school, it was definitely twists or braids with ballies and barrettes. Same, I think, up until fifth grade.

[Sashir]

Same.

[Nicole]

Oh, because you become a woman in fifth grade.

[Sashir]

So coming of age in fifth grade.

[Nicole]

I begged my mom for a relaxer in fifth grade, and I think that's when I got it. It was either fifth or sixth grade.

[Sashir]

I remember. I remember my being in fifth grade, and it, of course, didn't straighten my hair the whole way. So it was like a helmet. It was like a puffy, like, long but elevated helmet.

[Nicole]

Elevated. A elevated helmet. Oh, wait, you know what? I don't think I got a relaxer till, like, sixth or seventh grade. But my mom started pressing my hair.

[Sashir]

Okay.

[Nicole]

And that would be straight in the morning, and then slowly it would puff up.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Oh, my God. It burnt the out of me.

[Sashir]

Yeah, same. You got a crush. What do you do?

[Nicole]

Walk straight up and tell them no funny business.

[Sashir]

Secretly pine and write them love poems.

[Nicole]

Get your friend to ask their friend if they know if they like anyone.

[Sashir]

Be mean to them, hoping they'll get it.

[Nicole]

Only tell your closest friend your crush is the teacher.

[Sashir]

So you try to impress them by being smart.

[Nicole]

Have Your friend, tell them you like them.

[Sashir]

You don't get crushes. You're focused on school.

[Nicole]

I. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That is a read.

[Sashir]

That is a read.

[Nicole]

Isn't it wild to have a crush on a teacher hoping that he's a criminal? It is. Yeah. Cuz the best.

[Sashir]

Your best case scenario is that he commits a crime.

[Nicole]

Yes. You're like, oh, my God, I hope that adult wants this. Yeah.

[Sashir]

What? He shouldn't.

[Nicole]

No, he absolutely shouldn't. But I've had a crush on several teachers and I'm like, why don't you like me? And it's like, what?

[Sashir]

It's like they're moral. They really shouldn't.

[Nicole]

They can't like you. It's illegal. And I'm like, they have a family. They don't want this.

[Sashir]

They want to leave their family for me. This jobless kid.

[Nicole]

Yes. This child who will bring nothing to the table. I am. I'm gonna tell. I'm gonna have my friend tell them that. That I like them. I was always like, I'm not gonna do it. But you'll do it.

[Sashir]

Yeah. Did it ever work?

[Nicole]

No. I.

[Sashir]

I've done a number of these. I definitely secretly pined.

[Nicole]

I've.

[Sashir]

I didn't write a poem, but I did draw Foghorn Leghorn. I don't know why I did this. I drew a picture of Foghorn Leghorn and I wrote. I tried to write, you're my sweetie, but I spelled it like sweat with an A, so it was you're my sweaty. And then I passed the note. I don't even know if it actually reached my target because the teacher intercepted it and he read it and he was like, you're my sweaty girl.

[Nicole]

Like, roasted me in front of the classical.

[Sashir]

I just misspelled it.

[Nicole]

I'm so sorry. God bless. That's so embarrassing. And did he. Did the teacher know that you had written this?

[Sashir]

I think so, but I don't even know. I don't even remember who I was trying to pass it to or if it got to them, or if they knew it was going to get to them, but I remember that moment.

[Nicole]

Wow. I'm so sorry.

[Sashir]

That's tough. So I think after that I was like, never again. I'll never put myself out there like that again. But also like the. You don't get crushes. Your focus on school, I. E. Gay. Closeted was most of my school career. So we can put that.

[Nicole]

I once was writing a note talking about. I may have talked about this on the podcast. I don't remember, but one of my friends was, like, dating this guy, and we were talking about it in a note, and then the teacher intercepted it, and the guy she was dating had the same name as him. And. And he, like, kept me after class to be like, hey, you can't talk about me like this. And I was like, you. You win. No one's talking about you. We're talking about a student who has the same name as you. And then I said something really nasty. I really, like. I remember this because I thought about it later, and I was like, that was mean. He had a. Like, a picture of a woman and a child on his desk. And I was like, you should focus on those people who probably came with the frame.

[Host/Interviewer]

Oh.

[Nicole]

And he was like, you can go now.

[Sashir]

He just sobbed for two hours.

[Nicole]

I. He might have cried. I don't know.

[Sashir]

Probably. I mean, that's.

[Nicole]

Isn't that mean?

[Sashir]

It's already devastating to. To think that your students have a crush on you. And you're like, I gotta let them down gently. I gotta let them know it's not. And they're like, not you. Not you, my student. You.

[Nicole]

These fake people don't love you either.

[Sashir]

You don't even have a family. We don't want you, and you don't have a family.

[Nicole]

Oh, he did not like me. Mr. Gentry. I'll never forget that name. You were too talkative in class.

[Sashir]

A pleasure to have in class. Works well independently, easily distracted in class.

[Nicole]

Class. A hard worker, a good student. Extremely capable student.

[Sashir]

Never in class.

[Nicole]

Yeah. I mean, if we're talking elementary school, I was too talkative in class. If we're talking high school, I was never in class.

[Sashir]

Interesting. Yeah.

[Nicole]

After my mom died, I was like, well, this is a pass. I simply won't be here.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And then if somebody said something, I be. I'd be like, my mommy's dead.

[Sashir]

And that feels like.

[Nicole]

I learned so young that if you do something bad and if you then make people feel bad for you, it cancels it out. Don't work anymore.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Now, my neighbor, like, go to therapy. We've been talking about elementary school, so I'm going to say, too talkative in class. No one ever said I was a pleasure to have. Kind of rude.

[Sashir]

Hey, you're a pleasure to have here.

[Nicole]

Hey. Thank you. It doesn't hurt my feelings that teachers didn't like me growing up, because I'm like, that's on you. I was too spicy for you. Can't handle the heat. Get out of my kitchen.

[Sashir]

I like That I wish I had. That I, I, it did affect me that teachers didn't like me. And I don't know why they didn't like me. I think because I was a smart ass. But, like, I wasn't trying to hurt their feelings. I just had a little quip that I thought was funny and I was trying to impress people and they were like, hate. Sometimes that's too talkative. But I guess I also was a good student. I would say I was a good student. That's the truth. Okay, who are we?

[Nicole]

Who are we? Wait, what is this? Oh, Bath and Body works.

[Sashir]

Oh, yes.

[Nicole]

For whatever reason, I was like, lip gloss. We're getting lip gloss.

[Sashir]

Kind of.

[Nicole]

Okay, I'm. Cucumber melons. That's the next best. Yeah, that's fun. Okay. Crisp cucumber, watery honeydew, summer cantaloupe, sparkling grapefruit, and sheer woods.

[Sashir]

Sheer woods.

[Nicole]

You like an understated scent. Okay. Something fresh that matches your cool personality.

[Sashir]

I like that. That is fun. That's fine. I would say cucumber melon is probably the one that I could, like, stand the most. It didn't smell too sweet. Japanese cherry blossom. I like that. I'm from Japan.

[Nicole]

Yeah. I would have hated you in class.

[Sashir]

I'm a strong boy and a good student. Cherry blush blossom, Asian pearl, fresh mimosa petals. White jasmine and blushing sandalwood. You are warm and inviting and your beauty is something to be rival. Wow.

[Nicole]

That's nice. Wow. Auto straddler straddle was like, you are beautiful. And they were like, and you got a cool personality. Cool personality, bro. That's tough, man. Okay, let's take a break. Oh, boy. Foreign.

[Sashir]

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[Nicole]

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[Sashir]

The Uncommon Good site is so specific, you can type in anything like tarot or bath or sense, and then they'll just come up with things that you.

[Nicole]

Wouldn'T have even thought of. You're like, this exists.

[Sashir]

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[Nicole]

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[Sashir]

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[Nicole]

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[Sashir]

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[Nicole]

We're all out of the ordinary. Well, we're back. Should we answer questions?

[Sashir]

Let's do it.

[Nicole]

All right. Let's get into it it with those questions and queries.

[Sashir]

Amazing.

[Host/Interviewer]

Okay. Hi, Nicole and Sashir. Me and one of my best friends have always been on the same timeline in terms of what we do. Romantic. By that I mean we'd always be experiencing the same things romantically at the same point in our lives. Whether that be us wondering how the people just make out and go on dates because that was a crazy concept to us that people just did that. Or losing our V cards. She lost hers only a few weeks after I lost mine. We've always been able to bond over our romantic. But now she's gotten her first boyfriend and I'm so happy for her. But I'm also sad because I want to be. I want a boyfriend. Plus, we can no longer bond over the same experiences since I still have never been in a relationship. Maybe her getting a BF is a good thing if we stay on this pattern because it'll mean I'm going to get a BF soon too. But if the pattern stops, I'm going to be sad. Have you guys ever felt this?

[Nicole]

I feel like you've always dated more than me and we don't have like the backstory of like, us, like, going through romantic things together. But I mean, I didn't feel like left behind, but I was like, oh, I wish I had a partner or like a relationship or whatever. But I still felt like I could talk to you about things and still talk about being single. I.

[Sashir]

What I was gonna say, I do think there was a adjustment period because when we met, we both weren't in relationships and so we were like, our time was usually together. And then when I did get a boyfriend, there Was a bit of a, like, oh, okay, if I call, you might be with your boyfriend or if I want to go to dinner with you, you might be doing something with your boyfriend. We gotta figure out. It was just a good change.

[Nicole]

But.

[Sashir]

I feel like, well, eventually I broke.

[Nicole]

Up with that guy, so. Didn't really last that long. Yeah, I guess it was. I do remember this. It was a little bit of an adjustment, but he did run in the same circle, so it was kind of like we were together anyway. Yeah, I think it was more of an adjustment when you started dating someone who wasn't really in the improv world.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And then. And then also I think we were long distance at that point. So then it was just like, well, how does this work out?

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And oh, I do remember. I was like, you're gonna just fade away and I'll never see you. And I was shit faced and you were like, what are you talking about? I was like, I'm catastrophizing.

[Sashir]

Yeah. But also, I do understand because, like, yeah, you were. You weren't in New York anymore and you hadn't met the guy. Like, you like, I was like, I have a boyfriend. You're like, I don't even know this person.

[Nicole]

And that's.

[Sashir]

That is weird because it's like, yeah, you're. You're in my life so much and you are important to me and yet this huge thing happened and. But you weren't. You physically weren't there.

[Nicole]

Yeah, I wasn't there.

[Sashir]

Yeah. And then you met him and you threatened him.

[Nicole]

Sure did. I threatened him right up. And he'd bring it up at least once a year for almost a decade. But then we, like, really got along. I got to know him and I was like, oh, he's really actually, actually wonderful.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

But I do think our friend can mourn a little bit. That, like, they're on a different path than their friend.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

I do think it's a little dangerous to be like, well, oh, she has a boyfriend, so I'm gonna get one soon.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Because it could be years and years and then you start a podcast about. It could be a solid 15 years for you to get that partner. And it does feel shitty being like the single friend. But, like, also you get to be single and you get to love yourself and you get to explore who you are as a person. And I think that's okay. I think, I think my advice is, since you are now on different chapters, maybe you close the book a little bit and keep your eyes on your own. Paper.

[Sashir]

Yeah, but just a little bit.

[Nicole]

I mean. Oh, yeah. I mean, like, don't. You don't have to slam it shut.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Keep both bookmark in there.

[Sashir]

Keep a bookmark in there open.

[Nicole]

Right, right, right. Back up.

[Sashir]

Yeah. And I think maybe communicating how you feel could be helpful too and be like, hey, I love that you're in this relationship. I'm excited to get to know this person. I, you know, I want to feel like we still have like, our thing too. So, you know, I don't. I don't even know how to say it. Like, I don't know if it's like, you know, can we have a regular girls night on the weekends or like a regular call or something like that. Like, just.

[Nicole]

Or.

[Sashir]

But also it's like, since this is your friend's first relationship as well, she'll also be stumbling through it.

[Nicole]

So it's like you're just.

[Sashir]

You're gonna have to figure it out together.

[Nicole]

Yes.

[Sashir]

And there's gonna be moments where you're like, ouch, that didn't feel good. Or like. Or vice versa, where she's like, that sucks. But like, yeah, you'll. You'll have to just like, keep talking to each other about it. So you can remain close.

[Nicole]

Yes. Discard my advice. I said close the book. Close up shop. You're different people.

[Sashir]

I was like, does that mean end the friendship? What does this mean?

[Nicole]

Close the book. Close the book. Leave the library. You're not friends anymore. I think I'm coming from a space of like, don't hurt your own feelings. Because sometimes you can hurt your own feelings when you're, like, looking at your friend. Be happy with their partner. And then you're like, when's mine coming? I. I just don't want them to get stuck in the When's mine coming?

[Sashir]

Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. But also when she said like, you know, maybe this means I get a boyfriend soon, I mean, I could see it being like, yeah, don't, don't do that. Because you might set yourself up for, for disappointment. But I'm also like, that's a great way to think about it too. Because it's like, yes.

[Nicole]

Because then you're manifesting.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

You're being positive about it.

[Sashir]

And, and like, way better than like, I hate that she has a boyfriend. It's like, cool, she's a boyfriend. That means I might get one too. Like, that's great. Yeah.

[Nicole]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Put that energy out there.

[Nicole]

I think I'm more worried about our are emailer than they are about themselves. I'm like, oh, God. Oh, don't be upset and sad. And she's like, maybe I'll get one too. Life is great. I just had cotton candy and I'm like, don't choke on it. You can't choke on cotton candy. You shouldn't, famously.

[Sashir]

It should melt.

[Nicole]

It melts. It melts. Pretty raccoons try to wash. It goes away. Have you seen those videos?

[Sashir]

I think I have, yeah.

[Nicole]

Which is, like, pretty sad. They thought they were gonna eat food and it's like, it's gone solve.

[Host/Interviewer]

This is from Amelia Bedelia.

[Nicole]

I hope so. And she's like, how do you dress a chicken? I put a dress on it. Classic Amelia Bedelia.

[Host/Interviewer]

Hey, y'. All. This year I started grad school to become the strongest, fastest, smartest teacher out there. Yippee. And it's been such a delightful surprise to have the podcast make a comeback. Although I did kind of like reading all the conspiracy theories about the hiatus. Anyways, at teacher school, we did an activity about having a motto or a mantra, and I was wondering if both of you have a motto that you use. I was thinking a cute one for my class could be, I like myself. I'm worth a lot. And you can't tell me that I'm not. But I'm also open to suggestions if there's something I should have the 8 year old say every day. Thank you so much. Best, Amelia. Lol. Future teacher Emelia, can you read the.

[Nicole]

Mantra one more time?

[Host/Interviewer]

Yes. I like myself. I'm worth a lot. And you can't tell me that I'm not.

[Nicole]

Oh, I like that.

[Sashir]

That's very cute.

[Nicole]

Oh, I have no notes.

[Sashir]

Yeah, that's great.

[Nicole]

Yeah. Because, yes, you should like yourself. You're wonderful.

[Sashir]

Yeah, I love that. And it's like, you know, instilling, like, it doesn't matter what other people say. I like myself. Like, I. You have a good sense of self that cannot be shaked because doesn't matter what people say. That's great.

[Nicole]

Yeah, I love that. I'm more interested in the conspiracy.

[Sashir]

Yeah. I was gonna say, we gotta look those conspiracy.

[Nicole]

We were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Them kids are gonna grow up good. Well, about us. Hey, what were they saying?

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And then, like, where can we find them? Probably Reddit.

[Sashir]

Do you think they're on rally?

[Nicole]

Will you go to Reddit? Yeah. What are the conspiracies?

[Sashir]

I don't know. Probably that we weren't friends.

[Nicole]

Yeah. Because there was once where I, during our hiatus, I like, posted a picture of us or something. And someone was like, so they are still friends.

[Host/Interviewer]

Few.

[Nicole]

And I was like, oh, my God. You thought we weren't friends.

[Sashir]

Because also when we end. When we took our hiatus, we said, we'll be back. We didn't say, like, that's the end of the show.

[Nicole]

No, but maybe people were like, maybe they're lying.

[Host/Interviewer]

So anytime over the hiatus that you guessed it on another podcast and mentioned Best Friends, that transcript is screenshot. It's. And put up here saying, okay, they said that they're. They're co hosting Best Friends that might be coming back. Okay. So she went on the Big Flop.

[Nicole]

They said she's the host of Best.

[Host/Interviewer]

Friends, so she's coming back. And let's see. There's a picture of both of you at Beyonce together.

[Nicole]

That's the. That's what I posted. And someone's like, okay, they are still friends.

[Host/Interviewer]

Nicole and Sashir on Sashir's Instagram story. So they're keeping track of when you guys are.

[Nicole]

Wow, this is fun.

[Sashir]

We're creating conspiracy.

[Nicole]

I love it.

[Sashir]

There's lore.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. No new episodes. Didn't they say new episodes would be starting early January? Assuming maybe the fires have delayed things.

[Nicole]

Oh.

[Sashir]

Oh, no. It burned down our studio.

[Host/Interviewer]

Such a bummer. We haven't had new episodes in so long. And then there's, like, 20 comments. There's a lot. There is one long thread about Nicola. You sang Unwritten at one point in the past on the podcast.

[Nicole]

Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

People really loved it.

[Nicole]

Let the rain fall down. Everybody get in here. I don't know. I. I wish I could remember the way I sang it. Yeah, that's pretty close.

[Sashir]

I feel like it was a combination of Unwritten and Let the rain Fall.

[Nicole]

Yes. Because I keep saying, let the rain come in.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Let's do one more question. Let's do it. Yeah. People really like to sing.

[Sashir]

Oh, boy. Do you have a motto? I don't know if I have a motto or a mantra.

[Nicole]

Minds just keep swimming from Finding Nemo.

[Sashir]

That's.

[Nicole]

I really love Just Keep Swimming. It's like you kind of just have to keep going. You could take a break, but you got to keep going.

[Sashir]

I like that. Yeah.

[Host/Interviewer]

Hi, Nicole and Sasheer. I'm so excited you two are back. Listening to you giggle together makes my week. My question is about my best friend of 15 years not coming to my wedding. We met in college as potluck roommates and quickly discovered we grew up in the same small town and somehow didn't know each other. From then on, we were inseparable roommates through college and after road tripped and couch surfed in multiple states and moved halfway across the country not once, but twice together. I even introduced him to his now wife who happened to grow up in the same hometown as my now husband. I was his only wedding party member, the one there just for him, and he was the first person to support me when I came out. We've always been each other's family when our own didn't show up. But in recent years, the friendship feels one sided. He moved back to his wife's hometown and I've flown out to see him multiple times only for him to bail after a quick brunch. When he visited my city, he didn't even tell me he was there until he said he was there with other plans for my bachelor party. He went from excited to plan to bailing entirely. Then during wedding planning, he told me his wife was pregnant. I was thrilled for them. But when I asked about the wedding, he got distant until finally he said he couldn't come because his priest and doctors said no. I didn't even know he was religious, but apparently he's in seminary now and never mentioned it. Big shock. Your priest said don't go to the gay wedding.

[Sashir]

LOL.

[Host/Interviewer]

My wedding is in 2 months before their due date and my whole family already decided not to come. I told him even if he could just be there for the day, it would mean everything. But still he said no. So am I holding on to a friendship that's already slipped away? Am I being unreasonable? I'm finding myself wishing he'd show up for me the way I've always shown up for him.

[Sashir]

That's sad. Yeah.

[Nicole]

Oh boy. I do think you have to have a conversation to be like, hey, this religious journey we're going on, are you feeling some type of way about my sexuality?

[Sashir]

Yeah. I think it feels like the biggest. Yeah. Difference Sounded like he was pretty supportive and present until she came out. Maybe. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. We don't know the timeline, but. But yeah, that does seem like an obvious.

[Nicole]

Yeah. And that's tough. That sucks.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

But I feel like once you know, you can, then I think that's a little bit of closure. If it is a, a friendship that is ending, it's like, well, I'm just gonna straight up ask you, is this why we've grown distant? And if they say yeah, and it's like, okay, yeah, it's tough. That sucks.

[Sashir]

It's tough. Some friendships can prevail past huge life differences. And some Can't. Sometimes it's like, yeah, it's crazy. My friend from elementary school voted for Trump, and, like, it's up to you if you're okay with that or not. But for a lot of people, it's like, no, like that. And I think that's growing up. I think it's growing up and you change as a person, your friend changes as a person, and you start realizing you're like, value systems, and if they don't align, it's possible you can't really have this person in your life anymore.

[Nicole]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Ugh.

[Sashir]

But, yeah, I agree with you. Have a conversation, because it could be that might be something else.

[Nicole]

Yeah. Maybe you did something that. Not to be like you did it, but maybe something happened that you're not aware of.

[Sashir]

Maybe he's in love with you.

[Nicole]

Maybe.

[Sashir]

Maybe he thought he. He could get a chance at some point later in life, and you. Then you became gay, and he's like, I'll never get my chance.

[Nicole]

Is our listener. What. What do they identify as?

[Host/Interviewer]

It's a little vague.

[Sashir]

Oh, okay.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, they. They said that their pseudonym is Bob, so I'm not sure about gender.

[Nicole]

Bob man.

[Sashir]

Gay man. I thought I was. I was visualizing female gay, but I guess. I don't know. I don't know why I thought that.

[Nicole]

And what's a potluck roommate?

[Sashir]

I don't have no idea. Oh, yeah, they were roommates.

[Nicole]

So.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Maybe potluck roommates that maybe host potlucks. Every day you wake up with a different stew for whatever reason. Potluck. To me, everyone's bringing stew.

[Sashir]

It just sounds like.

[Nicole]

And not just a dish. So I, like. I'm very hesitant to use the word potluck. I'll just be like, everyone bring something.

[Sashir]

Because of, like, a crock pot.

[Nicole]

Yeah, probably. And stews come out of crock pots.

[Sashir]

Exactly.

[Nicole]

Solved. Did we know? I think. I think the answer is you gotta just straight up.

[Sashir]

Yeah. Yeah. And you could be vulnerable and be like, I consider you family. And I was hoping you felt the same way, but I'd like to know your perspective on it, because two months.

[Nicole]

Before due date, maybe she can't travel. The pregnant lady.

[Sashir]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

But this. This. This husband can.

[Sashir]

The husband sure can. Yeah.

[Nicole]

And it says, the priest and the doctor said not to go.

[Sashir]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Nicole]

I think you just gotta talk. Yeah, that's tough. And I. I empathize and I'm sorry.

[Sashir]

Yeah. Yeah. It's. I hope if this. Yeah. If this is a friend breakup, I hope that you're able to find a community that also feels like family.

[Nicole]

Yeah.

[Sashir]

Yeah. Solved. Ever so quietly. Yeah, the softest. Solved. Yes, Solved. And if you would like something solved, leave an email address nicole and sishear gmail.com. and you could ever so softly, call us at our phone number. Yes. 323238-6554. Sashir, this has been really nice. It's been so nice talking with you here.

[Nicole]

I can't wait till the next time we get to leave our homes.

[Sashir]

I really look forward to it.

[Nicole]

Put on makeup and clothes and come to the studio.

[Sashir]

It's always joy.

[Nicole]

Good night.

[Sashir]

Good night.

[Nicole]

Best Friends is a production of Headgun Studios.

[Sashir]

Our producer is Ali Khan.

[Nicole]

Our executive producer is Anya Khanovskaya.

[Sashir]

The show is edited, mix and and engineered by Richelle Chen.

[Host/Interviewer]

That was a Hitgum podcast.

[Lamorne Morris]

What's going on? It's Lamorne Morris and Hannah Simone, and we host the Mess Around a New Girl Rewatch podcast now on Headgum. Now here's the thing. Every single week, we chat about an episode of New Girl. And we really get into it. Like, we get up in there. We get up in there. You know, we reminisce about our times on set. We share behind the scenes tea. We react to rewatching episodes that we haven't seen in years. We talk about how Jake Johnson is dog.

[Sashir]

That's not true. We talk about so many memories we have of working with the biggest stars on the planet. I'm talking Prince Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo.

[Lamorne Morris]

We're just two BFFs having a good old time.

[Nicole]

Okay?

[Lamorne Morris]

Sometimes we even talk to other co stars like Zooey Deschanel, Jake Johnson, Max Greenfield, and Damon Waynes junior.

[Nicole]

And your dad.

[Lamorne Morris]

We talk to your dad on this show as well.

[Sashir]

Make sure you subscribe to the Mess around wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes drop every single Tuesday.