Sasheer Considers Body Swapping

Summary

Best Friends with Nicole Byer & Sasheer Zamata: "Sasheer Considers Body Swapping"
Release Date: April 8, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lighthearted and delightfully rambling episode, Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata, joined by their Producer Allie, explore the whimsical contours of friendship—from speculative games about fantasy "old celebrity orgies," to a debate on the etiquette of meme-sharing, to candid confessions about body-swapping dreams. The duo meanders through stories about their personal lives, plant propagation mishaps, quirky celebrity admiration, and the perils of group texts, all with their signature charm and wit.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Flea Markets, Thrift Stores, & Treasure Hunting (02:22–05:00)

• Sasheer and Allie reminisce about acquiring unique items from the Chelsea flea market.
• Nicole learns about new thrift stores in LA: Ratstar and 791719.
• The hosts chat about price inflation at flea markets and the thrill (or disappointment) of finding treasures.

Memorable Exchange:
Sasheer (03:29): "There was a table full of jewelry and they were like all bracelets, $5. And I wanted to say these... No, no, these are a dollar. Oh, these are 50 cents."
Allie (03:53): "They were bought, I think, like wholesale from like a five below or something."

2. Building the "Old Celebrity Orgy Stable" (05:00–07:30)

• Sasheer revisits a recurring game: Which celebrities over 65 would you invite to an orgy? Criteria strictness is debated (retirement age or older).
• Allie and Nicole consider Angela Bassett, Susan Sarandon, Tilda Swinton, and Shora Agdashloo for their enticing voices and presence.
• A hilarious reference to lust as community service:
  Sasheer (08:27): “Because your lust will keep them alive. That’s a rule I just made up.”

3. Iconic Celebrity Crushes & Admiration (10:25–15:02)

• Nicole and Sasheer declare love for Vin Diesel, sharing quirky facts (e.g., Vin wearing Groot stilts at the "Guardians" premiere).
• Discussion expands to celebrity method acting, star personas, and coming up with original compliments:
• Sasheer (12:32): “The thought never occurred to me that I could be Vin Diesel.”
• Reflection on Oprah’s experience with fans and how to offer new appreciation rather than generic praise.

4. Body Swapping Fantasies (10:50–12:50)

• Prompt: “Who would you body swap with, and why?” Allie picks Dua Lipa for the fun lifestyle; Sasheer chooses between Angela Bassett and Michelle Rodriguez (for those iconic arms and proximity to Vin Diesel).
• The conversation turns whimsical and aspirational.
  Sasheer (12:32): “The thought never occurred to me that I could be Vin Diesel... What a true treat that would be.”

5. On Plants: Propagation, Pruning & Homeowner Woes (29:13–32:29)

• Sasheer shares successes with propagating a colorful coleus plant, while Allie complains about failed succulent propagation.
• Allie reveals her yard was trashed—by a gang of local coyotes!
• They riff on pet and pest hierarchy: how some animals are welcome in the house (dogs, gerbils) while others are shunned (rats, coyotes), pondering who gets domesticated and why.

6. Pop Culture: Movie Talk and the Buzzfeed Quiz Game (38:37–54:00)

• The group takes a “pick your favorite movies and we’ll tell you which extinct creature you are” quiz.
• Spirited debate about their favorite crime, sports, comedy, and horror films.
• Side tangents: Nicole’s delight over Ben Affleck’s “Daredevil,” fascination with “Green Lantern” and its big-headed characters, and the merits of “Wonder Man.”
• Allie ends up as a T-Rex (“I’m big!”), Sasheer as an Andrewsarchus, highlighting their playful competitiveness and nerdy banter.
• Sasheer (54:39): "Damn, bitch, you fat as hell." (Reacting to the T-Rex's stats.)

7. The Etiquette of Meme Sharing & Social Media Notifications (62:34–68:22)

• Listener question: Is there a polite way to ask friends to stop sending Instagram reels/memes?
• Sasheer and Allie explore “pebbling” (sharing memes as offerings of affection) and strategies for managing social overload.
• Allie describes her system of saving memes in “Nicole folders” to avoid overwhelming friends.
• Creative compromise: schedule meme catch-up for Fridays—a digital boundary with a “friendship-first” reframe.
• Allie (66:22): “I have a Nicole folder.”
  Sasheer (66:31): “This is a level of organization that simply does not exist to me.”

8. Group Chats: Blessing and Curse (61:14–62:29)

• Woes about large group chats: missing vital information, chatter overload, and the “finger princess” phenomenon—expecting others to look up info instead of Googling it yourself.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Flea Market Prices:
  Sasheer (03:29): "No, no, these are a dollar. Oh, these are 50 cents."
• On Lust as Community Service:
  Sasheer (08:27): “Because your lust will keep them alive. That’s a rule I just made up.”
• On Being a Vin Diesel Fan:
  Sasheer (12:32): “The thought never occurred to me that I could be Vin Diesel... What a true treat that would be.”
• On Body Image & Extinct Creatures:
  Sasheer (54:39): "Damn, bitch, you fat as hell." (Reacting humorously to the T-Rex description.)
• On Meme Organization:
  Allie (66:22): “I have a Nicole folder.”
  Sasheer (66:31): “This is a level of organization that simply does not exist to me.”
• On Group Chat Dynamics:
  Sasheer (62:13): “I think group chats for. Hehe. Haha. Send an email. ... If you want to give me actual information, send an email.”
• On The "Finger Princess":
  Allie (55:56): “You were not even a little bit. You are a fingerprint.”

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Important Timestamps

• 02:22 – Start of main conversation (flea markets & thrift stores)
• 05:00 – "Old celebrity orgies" game
• 10:50 – Body swapping discussion
• 12:32 – Nicole's Vin Diesel revelation
• 29:13 – Plant propagation stories
• 32:29 – Coyote yard destruction & animal domestication musings
• 38:37 – Movie/quiz game segment starts
• 54:39 – Laugh-out-loud T-Rex revelation
• 62:34 – Listener question about meme-sharing etiquette
• 66:22 – Allie's meme-saving system
• 61:14; 62:13 – Group chat etiquette and the "finger princess"

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Tone and Style

The episode is loose, playful, and peppered with irreverent humor. Nicole and Sasheer's banter is both off-the-cuff and inviting, effortlessly blending pop culture riffs, personal anecdotes, and the realities of modern friendship in a social media age. The dynamic is supportive, goofy, and distinctly their own—an open door into the real rhythms of deep friendship.

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For listeners: If you love candid talk about everything from celebrity admiration to houseplants (with equal enthusiasm for both), plus a dash of advice on digital boundaries, you'll find this episode hilarious, relatable, and full of friendship warmth.

Transcript

[Nicole Byer]

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[Sasheer Zamata]

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[Ally]

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[Sasheer Zamata]

Hello, Sushi.

[Ally]

Hello, Nicole.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Did I give you that?

[Ally]

No, but you may have been with me when I got it. I got it from a flea market in New York, but I don't remember. A long time ago.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Long time ago.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I wonder if it was the Chelsea flea. Maybe There was this little Chelsea flea market that I loved going to because when I worked at UCB that was like 30th and 7th and it was on like 28th and 6th or something and I would like make my way over and have a lovely time. I wonder if it's from there.

[Ally]

I wonder. I have like a visual of it hanging from one of Those, like, pop up white tents.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Okay. Was it. It was outside.

[Ally]

It was outside.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I think it was the. I wonder if it's a still. If it's a still. If it. If.

[Ally]

If it's still a going.

[Sasheer Zamata]

If it's a still a going. I do wonder if it's a still.

[Ally]

I hope so. I wonder. I do feel like flea markets are, like, having a moment.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I think so too, because everyone has no money. Like, how can I have something for cheap and new. New to me.

[Ally]

Yeah, yeah. But I mean, also, flea markets aren't necessarily cheap.

[Sasheer Zamata]

You are very, very correct. I was at a flea. I won't say where. And there was a table full of jewelry and they were like all bracelets, $5. And I wanted to say these. No, no, these are a dollar. Oh, these are 50 cents.

[Ally]

Wait, were they like, cheaply?

[Sasheer Zamata]

They were very, very cheap.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

They were bought, I think, like wholesale from like a five below or something. Yeah. And I was like, I don't like this. Yeah, I don't like this one bit.

[Ally]

Did you let them know?

[Sasheer Zamata]

No, I bought a bracelet.

[Ally]

I will give you my $5, but I will not like it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I didn't like it. I frowned the whole time. Yeah. I was really upset about it.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

But I do love a fleet. And I found two new thrift stores. Oh, there's two on Virgil Avenue that I've heard are good. One's called Ratstar. Isn't that a really fun name?

[Ally]

It's a very fun name, yes.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And then I think the other one is called 791719.

[Ally]

I haven't heard of any of these.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Me either. But I was driving, it was raining. I should have been paying attention.

[Ally]

Oh, no.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And I was like, what's that?

[Ally]

Let's check it out.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And I pulled out my phone and

[Ally]

I was like, that's very dangerous.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I needed to know what it was.

[Ally]

Yeah, but you know, you can just remember the name and then Google it later.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Girl, you know that's not a possibility.

[Ally]

That's true.

[Sasheer Zamata]

If I don't look it up in the moment, poof. It's gone.

[Ally]

It's disappeared.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It's gone. Disappeared. Do you remember? I don't know if the episode came out yet, but I asked you who your old orgy would be and you wimped out and only said Patrick Stewart. Which is not an orgy. That's an encounter. I. I have now added Sam Elliott to my stable of old men because I watched 40 minutes of Ghost Rider with Nicolas Cage.

[Ally]

I've never seen it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

You don't need to. But it's really fun. Okay, so maybe you do. Okay, so now my query to you is, you gotta give me more than Patrick Stewart. Okay. I made that. Nice, man. Do it. Make a stable of old women.

[Ally]

Who was in there?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Tilda Swinton. A woman named Shura something. She's in the Penguin currently. And I believe I'm saying her name right, but I might be butchering it. I tried really hard to pronounce it. Well, last night in the privacy of my own home, I was like, I will pronounce her name right. I believe she's an Iranian actress, but she sounds like this, and I love it. She has such a fun voice. He was trying to put Viola Davis in there, but she's not 65. And I said 65 and up.

[Ally]

Okay. We're going retirement age. Yes.

[Nicole Byer]

I think her name is Shorek Agdashlou.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yes. And you have to hear her voice.

[Ally]

Okay.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Ali, would you mind playing her voice?

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It's so rich and so deep.

[Ally]

Mm.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It's so deep.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And then I think he put Susan Sarandon in there. Shora. Susan Sarandon. Tildy Switton. Oh. And I said that was enough. Cause that's altogether four people.

[Ally]

And that's Norgy.

[Sasheer Zamata]

That's an orgy. Three's a threesome.

[Ally]

Okay. How is Mini Driver?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, I don't know. Poor Ally. You got a lot to do.

[Nicole Byer]

No, I'm ready.

[Ally]

Because she looks great right now.

[Nicole Byer]

Mini driver is 56.

[Sasheer Zamata]

So sorry.

[Ally]

It doesn't make you feel she can't

[Sasheer Zamata]

be in the stable.

[Ally]

Okay. It's tough. It is tough.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Not for me, though.

[Ally]

Is Angela Bassett 65? I feel like she's 60 something, I think.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Not quite.

[Nicole Byer]

She's 67.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, she's 67.

[Ally]

Okay, we got Angela Bassett.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, I think he also had Angela Bassett. Yes. After I vetoed Viola Davis. He said Angela Bass.

[Ally]

Got it. And I'm really not scoping out the people above. One more. Is that true?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Okay, well, you said Patrick Stewart.

[Ally]

Yes.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Mini Driver.

[Ally]

Yeah. Oh, Mini Driver doesn't count because she's.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, sorry. You said Angela Bass.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Okay, just one more.

[Ally]

Okay.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Because your lust will keep them alive. That's a rule I just made up.

[Ally]

Because my lust will keep them alive.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah. Don't you know lust keeps old people alive.

[Ally]

And so this is like a community service situation. This is.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yes. This is community services. Fellowship for the elderly.

[Ally]

It's like adopt a grandpa, but just a grandpa.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yes.

[Ally]

Yes.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It's evolved.

[Ally]

Oh, no.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And.

[Ally]

I don't know

[Nicole Byer]

I have a video of show Ralph's voice.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yes.

[Ally]

Please give me time to think.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah, it's incredible.

[Ally]

Okay, let's see.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Goes to the prison she needs to get in and acts on behalf of.

[Ally]

You know that moment when you realize you've been doing.

[Nicole Byer]

And that's an ad, but okay.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Love her voice.

[Ally]

It sounds like. I don't know who this person was, but they had a video, like maybe clips from a documentary for a while on online that was like. Well, my father came in and he beat me in the neck.

[Sasheer Zamata]

The Queen of Melrose. She has stores on Melrose and. Very, very funny. I don't know what their full name is, though. Charlie. No, that can't be. My father's father came from Sicily and we.

[Nicole Byer]

Her full name is Cosmo.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Cosmo.

[Ally]

Ooh, that's a fun name. Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And if I keep smoking, that's what I'm gonna sound like. Hello, Sisier.

[Ally]

It's actually impressive that you smoke so long, but it actually hasn't affected your voice. Well, soon probably, maybe, but maybe your voice is so, like, high pitched that it'll take a while for it to get gravelly.

[Sasheer Zamata]

That's wild. I don't think my voice is high pitched. Is it?

[Ally]

It's not like high. Not like high in octave, but it's like light.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Wow. It's crazy. None of us know what we actually sound like or look like.

[Ally]

Yeah. And we'll never know.

[Sasheer Zamata]

We won't.

[Ally]

Unless you body swap.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, my God. Who would you body swap with and why?

[Ally]

Who would I body swap with and why? Mmm. Dua Lipa seems like she's having a great time.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Doopy loops. Does think. Does think. Does seem like she's having a good time. What did Wendy Williams call her? Dulapeep.

[Ally]

Dula Peeps. Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Dula Peeps. Wendy needs to come back. We need her more than ever.

[Ally]

She seems like she's doing better, right?

[Sasheer Zamata]

She does.

[Ally]

And I think she's kind of flirt, like floated the idea of a podcast or something out, but I don't know if it's happening officially.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Somebody scoop her up. Let her do it. I miss her so much.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I think I would body swap with Michelle Rodriguez or Angela Bassett. Those arms.

[Ally]

Yeah. Now, are you body swapping for their life or for their body?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh. Hmm.

[Ally]

Because I was doing for, like, the lifestyle because Du was always on vacation, just being a pop star, having a great time.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Well, Angela Basket keeps popping up in really fun movies, so I think it'd be really fun to body swap and be in really fun movies for a little bit.

[Ally]

Definitely.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And then Michelle Rodriguez has a very close proximity to Vin Diesel, so I'm just, like, cultivating more friendship with Vin Diesel.

[Ally]

I see. You could also swap with Vin Diesel.

[Sasheer Zamata]

What? Oh, my God. I could be Vin Diesel.

[Ally]

You could. In this imaginary scenario, yes. Oh, my God. Dream big, girl.

[Sasheer Zamata]

The thought never occurred to me that I could be Vin Diesel.

[Ally]

You could.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I don't know if I'll come back from that. That's too high. Of, like. The thought of being Vin Diesel is so wild to me. What a true treat that would be.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I'm the star of Fast and the Furious.

[Ally]

All of them.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I love him.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

The thought is so wild to me.

[Ally]

And he'd be grooting. I get to walk on stilts and for no reason.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Sasheer. He's method, for sure.

[Ally]

Yeah. He had to be a tree.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Groot was so tall.

[Ally]

And your voice sounds different up there.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It does. I feel like you're trying to appease me, but it does. I can't believe you. You're passing judgment on a. I was

[Ally]

just surprised because it's, you know, it's voiceover. You're in a booth. It wasn't motion capture. It wasn't like they were recording his body for any reason. So for his recording sessions, he wanted to be on stilts, to be as tall as Groot, and. And that's what they allowed to happen.

[Sasheer Zamata]

But that's the genius of Vin Diesel. All he had to say is three. Three words. I am Groot.

[Ally]

And I'm sure different kinds of Groots, too.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah. Oh, no. He had to say it in so many different ways. And I believe he did his own dubbing.

[Ally]

Oh, okay.

[Sasheer Zamata]

No soy Groot. Nice. But I'm not sure about that. That could just be a straight up lie.

[Ally]

You know, I don't know either, but TV went on.

[Nicole Byer]

Oh, I did that.

[Sasheer Zamata]

You're going to show us?

[Nicole Byer]

I have pictures of him at the premiere. That's really funny.

[Ally]

Oh, great.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Ooh, I'm dying. Chris Pratt showed up in a suit. Vin Diesel showed up in fun stilts in a shirt that says I am Groot. In case you didn't know, he was

[Ally]

voicing Groot, which, you know, it's possible people didn't.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Look at how he's walking. He looks so cool.

[Ally]

He looks like you're having a great time.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I think Vin Diesel's always having a good time.

[Ally]

I'm sure he is. Yeah. What a good life.

[Sasheer Zamata]

You've seen the video where he's singing Rihanna, right?

[Ally]

Mm.

[Sasheer Zamata]

He's a gift that truly keeps on giving.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I love him. So look at.

[Ally]

Look at how happy he is.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Ugh. I want to meet him so I can tell him how happy he's made me. But honestly, he's probably heard it before,

[Ally]

but I'm sure he likes it, I would guess.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah. But I think it was Oprah who said something to the effect of like, yes, I raised you. Yes, you grew up with me. She's like, I have. I don't hear different. Like, nobody has different things to say.

[Ally]

Oh, interesting. I mean, that's true. But also, who cares? Like, I mean, like, what? Why would that matter if it was different or not? Like, it's also very cool how many people you have inspired or raised or whatever.

[Sasheer Zamata]

No, you're right. I don't know if she was complaining about it or she was just saying it. I said it like she was complaining about it, but I think it was just, like, a conversation she was having. But I don't want to be a basic Vin Diesel fan.

[Ally]

I'm sure you can come up with a really creative compliment.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I'm sure, if I really worked hard at it.

[Ally]

Yeah. Like, I really love how

[Sasheer Zamata]

you.

[Ally]

How you just are willing to sing. When you have a song on your heart.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Willing to sing sounds bad.

[Ally]

And you don't even care who's listening. You just go for it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

You don't care if you're hitting the right notes or anything. You're just singing.

[Ally]

I really love how fast you go.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Let's see.

[Ally]

You've taken those movies to new heights. Literally. Space, so sheer, huh?

[Sasheer Zamata]

I don't think you're taking this seriously.

[Ally]

Am I supposed to?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yes, because I was thinking of, like, real earnest ones.

[Ally]

Real earnest.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I love how Dom Toretto loves family so much because I do think chosen family is important. Yes, you have your sister, but, like, the rest of the gang isn't your blood.

[Ally]

You can just. You actually had it. You didn't. You, like, added one extra sentence that wasn't really necessary.

[Sasheer Zamata]

The rest of your game did not. Is not necessary.

[Ally]

And I know you have one sister,

[Sasheer Zamata]

and then the other people are not

[Ally]

your siblings or your cousins or your. Or your family.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Except for your half brother, played by John Cena, in fact. Can I ask you about that? How did that come about? How are you? Half brothers, But I don't think y' all have the same ethnicity.

[Ally]

It would be more believable if the Rock was his half brother.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah, but he's not. He's his arch nemesis. It is Such. It's such a choice. And I really like it. I really like that. Vin Diesel goes, go ahead, ask a question. We won't answer it. You'll watch these movies. You'll slop it up. And I do. Each and every time. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Oh, wait. Allan sent us a video that I want to talk about. It's Kevin Bacon and Kira Sedgwick. Did you watch this video?

[Ally]

I think I sent that one.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh.

[Ally]

Where they're, like, going to the movies and they're in love.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Strike that from the record. Allan has sent us. Shit. Allan, if you're listening, step it up. I'm. They're my new obsession.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I am fully into it.

[Ally]

They're, like, so in love. They always. They look like a bit post coital in each video. They're just like. We just.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Also. You keep saying post coital, and it's a. It's pretty wild.

[Ally]

Because I don't. Because what I want to say is, like.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Like, just fucked.

[Ally]

Yeah. But that feels, like, really vulgar. So, like, post coital feels too vulgar

[Sasheer Zamata]

to say about Kira Sedgwick and Kevin Baker.

[Ally]

Especially them.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And then they had, like, a little chant that I guess they do. What's the chant? It was just like, movies need. Movies are magic and movies need you or something.

[Ally]

Oh, yes.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah.

[Ally]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And I was like, yes.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

We need more people being like, we go to the movies. We have to keep the movies alive.

[Ally]

Yeah. It can't just be Tom Cruise.

[Sasheer Zamata]

No.

[Ally]

Everyone needs to talk about it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Everybody. And Kyra, Cedric and Kevin Bacon were like, we are here to do.

[Ally]

Maybe I would add Kevin Bacon to the orgy.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yes.

[Ally]

We did it. If we.

[Sasheer Zamata]

If I keep bringing up old people, you'll keep adding them to the stable. That's what happened with Sam Elliott. Last night was watching Ghost Rider, and I was like, got another one in the stable.

[Ally]

This makes me think of, like, a horse stable and they're just all waiting.

[Sasheer Zamata]

They're old. What else do they have to do? Hang out with grandkids, get in the stable.

[Ally]

Just walking in a circle, just leashed up.

[Sasheer Zamata]

When will Nicol come for me? And I kind of wanted to add Nicholas Cage to it, but he's, like, a little too weird. Like, I know too much about his personal life.

[Ally]

Yeah, but it might be, like, wild. He might show you something you've never even seen or heard of.

[Sasheer Zamata]

How old's Nicholas Cage?

[Nicole Byer]

62.

[Ally]

Oh. Doesn't mean a cut.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Wow. I could have sworn he was older. Why?

[Ally]

He's been working for A long time.

[Sasheer Zamata]

He has been. He's been working hard for the money. He's working hard for it, honey. Because when you work all hard, it comes. Yes. What are the next lyrics?

[Ally]

She works hard for the money so hard for it, honey she works hard for the money and you better treat her right I think that's it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, is that about a sex worker?

[Ally]

It might be. I actually never really thought about it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I mean, you know me, I'm never thinking about lyrics. But then I found out a couple years ago lyrics have meaning, so now I'm thinking about lyrics. And it's like, she works hard for the money, and then you, like, you better treat her right.

[Ally]

Yeah. Which really? Anyone who's working hard would be nice to treat them right now if they work at Enron. Okay, fair point.

[Sasheer Zamata]

They were nefarious.

[Ally]

They were nefarious. Yes.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Actually, I have no idea what Enron did. I just know the company ended.

[Ally]

I think it was like a bunch of fraud. Oh, okay.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah, they're bad. Don't treat them right don't treat them right Donna Summer, really? Is that pop diva for real. Her songs are so fun. Good. So good. On my way to get my tooth extracted that nice man was like, what do you want to listen to? And I was like, donna Summer, nice. And then we just jammed.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Had a really nice time.

[Ally]

Really fun music.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And the.

[Nicole Byer]

That song is about a hard working blue collar woman. It doesn't say if she's a sex worker.

[Ally]

Okay, all right, fill in.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Fill in the blank.

[Ally]

Yeah. Whoever you interpret to be a hardworking woman, that's who she is.

[Sasheer Zamata]

A hooker. Isn't it crazy that they called prostitutes hookers? Oh, I guess you hook a man. Never mind. Not crazy.

[Ally]

That was pretty fast. You get the right after the other.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Well, you ever say something and then you go, well, no, I get it.

[Ally]

It's probably that. It's probably just as simple as that.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Mm. Mm. When did you get back in town?

[Ally]

Yesterday. Last night.

[Sasheer Zamata]

You tired?

[Ally]

I am.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I'm sorry.

[Ally]

It's okay. And it was cold this morning. I didn't wanna get out of bed.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It's cold right now.

[Ally]

It's cold right now.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I didn't put on a jacket. I went outside and I was like, we have to take a break.

[Ally]

That's what you said to yourself. You walked right outside and said, we have to take a break.

[Sasheer Zamata]

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[Ally]

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[Sasheer Zamata]

We're back. No, I, like, went outside, and I was like, oh, my God, I'm so cold. And then I lock the door. I was like, I'm late. I have to suffer.

[Ally]

This is my life.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And I was, like, shivering in the car. And then I turn on the heat, and I was like, this is. This is winter.

[Ally]

Yeah, I guess it is winter.

[Sasheer Zamata]

This is winter. But it was summer, I swear to you. You were gone. But it was summer. Yeah, for, like, four days. It was so beautiful. And now it's cold. It's raining.

[Ally]

Don't like that.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And the only good thing about the rain is I propagated. I propagated a plant. Oh, I wish I could remember what kind of plant it is. But it's, like a really colorful leaf. It's really fun.

[Ally]

Nice.

[Sasheer Zamata]

So I propagated just one, and then I was like, it's got roots. So then I stuck it in the. In the ground, and it rooted, and it's growing.

[Ally]

Ooh, I like that.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Just one. One little branch of it.

[Ally]

Nice.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It's really cute.

[Ally]

Okay. I can't wait to see what happens to it after the rainy season.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I think she's going to thrive and hopefully turn into more than just one little thing.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

But I was pruning. I don't know if I pruned correctly.

[Ally]

Okay.

[Sasheer Zamata]

But I was cutting away dead stuff. And then I was like, well, I might as well try to propagate. They're really easy. My friend Nick was like, they're really easy to propagate, so have fun. And I said, okay. So I cut up a whole bunch.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And then, like, so now I'm trying to propagate, like, eight of them.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I'm having a good time.

[Ally]

Are you putting them in water so the roots come out first and then putting them in the dirt?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yes. Yes.

[Ally]

Okay. Nice.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yes. That's how you propagate.

[Ally]

Okay.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yes. It's really easy. You just put it in water.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

But I know that there's, like, other. There's harder. Some things are really easy to propagate and others are really hard.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And I keep stealing from Home Depot, and I'm not stealing the right things because I'm having a hard time propagating them.

[Ally]

Dang. I try to do that with succulents, and I don't know what they. I don't know if they didn't like the soil or. I don't know. They just kind of, like, withered away.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, yeah. I think. Cause you propagated them inside and then took them outside. I think you have to find something that's, like, easy. Like, that is okay with different temperatures. This is. I think it begins with a C. They're really, really easy. Do you. Allie.

[Ally]

Sorry.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Do you mind looking up? Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

Is it croton.

[Sasheer Zamata]

No.

[Nicole Byer]

Or Cronin coleus?

[Ally]

Yes.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It's a coleus plant.

[Ally]

Okay.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And it's like a greenish leaf with, like, purples in it. And they're really pretty nice. Mm.

[Ally]

Mm.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I bit my lip, too.

[Ally]

I went. When I came home to my yard, there was destruction.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, no. Carnage.

[Ally]

Carnage.

[Sasheer Zamata]

My.

[Ally]

My hose was like. Like, flailed about on the lawn. And then I had these little, like, twinkle solar lights that were ripped to shreds. And I was like, does someone come into my yard and vandalize things? And I looked at my camera footage, and it was coyotes. Like, a pack, like, four or five of them were just roaming around.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Whoa.

[Ally]

Being a little damaging. Vagrants.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, my God. You have a gang on your hands.

[Ally]

There's a gang in the streets in my yard. Oh, my goodness. And it was like, they just did that for fun because they know they can't eat any of that stuff. It wasn't like, oh, these lights are gonna provide food. They just tore them up. Wow. Rude.

[Sasheer Zamata]

That is rude. And it's like, how do you stop coyotes?

[Ally]

I don't think I can.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I don't think you can either. There was a coyote in my front yard. I was walking Clyde. And Clyde stopped and, like, stared. And I was like, huh? And you know those, like, weird little benches in the front that, like, you're not going to ever sit in? It was sitting there, and I was like, am I disturbing you?

[Ally]

He's like, got a book.

[Sasheer Zamata]

But he looked at us and ran away so fast.

[Ally]

Good. Yeah. I mean, I don't want the coyotes to not come in my yard because maybe if they find any rodents, they can eat that. Please. But don't mess up my. My stuff.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that.

[Ally]

Rude.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It's so rude. If you think about rats and stuff, they're kind of crazy.

[Ally]

Why?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Because rats. We're all, like, ew. Bad. We hate you. Hamsters. Come inside, gerbils. Let's go. Like, it's just so funny that we, like, like, coyotes.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Bad. Stay outside, wolves. Bad. Stay outside, dogs. Come on in. Isn't that kind of crazy?

[Ally]

Yeah. I wonder who made that distinction. Or, like. I mean, rats don't look aesthetically pleasing. But then again, when people have a pet rat and it's clean, they're, like, fine. They look kind of like hamsters are, like, on the same level because they have, like, a really tiny, thin tail. But. Yeah, that. They were, like, nasty. Dirty.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Right.

[Ally]

But, like, if a hamster was outside, it'd probably be a scavenger, too.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Probably be disgusting. Matted hair.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

One big tooth.

[Ally]

Dirty fur, you know, paws.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It's like. It's crazy.

[Ally]

It's crazy. Just crazy.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And then, okay, like, Columbus, bad man. But, like, isn't it wild that he chose to be bad after seeing all that new stuff?

[Ally]

What do you mean?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Like, he left whatever country he was from. I don't remember where he's from.

[Ally]

Spain.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It's because I don't acknowledge him as a real human.

[Ally]

Or I guess he was exploring for Spain, But I think he's from Italy. Oh, really? I think so. Is that right?

[Nicole Byer]

He's from Genoa, Italy.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, isn't it crazy that he left Italy and then, like, saw all these, like, cool new things, and instead of, like, being friends with people and, like, being like, teach me your language. Teach me about this. He was like, now I'm be bad.

[Ally]

Yeah. I mean, that's a colonizer mentality that, like, like, this is here for me, as opposed to, like, wow, I could really learn from these people. Or, like, like, that could just exist on its own without me.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah. But, like, it's so crazy that, like, he probably saw a guinea pig for the first time, was like, I'm gonna take it

[Ally]

maybe. I don't know. I have no idea. If he, like, took animals.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah. He saw guinea pigs. He's like, these are mine. He saw lizards. He's like, cage him up. We got to go back daily.

[Ally]

It's a bad Noah's Ark.

[Sasheer Zamata]

That's. But, like. Yeah, when you see new things, like, don't they take them? I don't know.

[Ally]

He definitely did take a lot of stuff. Yes. I don't know. I don't know if animals were part of it, though. Maybe.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I don't know. Like, when I see new things and go to, like, different countries, my first initial thing isn't like, I'm gonna take them over. That's so crazy.

[Ally]

Yeah, you're right.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Bad man.

[Ally]

Bad man.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Should we take a quiz?

[Ally]

Take a quiz? Yeah, let's do it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Sorry, I've been all over the place.

[Ally]

I haven't noticed a difference.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, really?

[Ally]

Yeah, it's all right.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Usually I take my medicine a little bit earlier before I leave the house, but I was, like, really running around and then was, like, popping pills, and then I left the house, and then I was like, brr, I'm cold.

[Ally]

A lot's happened.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah, a lot. And Clyde is still in his cone. Oh, he's healing, but not fast. Yeah, but his biopsy came back, and they don't. It's not cancerous.

[Ally]

That's amazing.

[Sasheer Zamata]

But he still has to have radiation to make sure that the tumor doesn't

[Ally]

spread just on that one part. Okay.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And they don't think it's gonna spread at all after the radiation.

[Ally]

Great. Is there something you can give him that? Like, is he taking medications?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah, he's on gamma pin.

[Ally]

I don't know it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Trazodone.

[Ally]

Okay. I know that one.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Codeine.

[Ally]

Yes. Stuff. My God.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah. He's stoned every fucking night. No, during the day, we don't give it to him, the Trazodone, really. Unless he's getting very, very antsy because he doesn't like his cone and he doesn't like his little bandage.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

But other than that, he's like. He really wants to play and he can't. He, like, has to take it easy. And he gets so frustrated, and, like, he. Like, last night, he got so wound up that he, like, passed out on his. On his back, and his little paws were like this.

[Ally]

No, no, because he was like, can he, like. Could you play with him by, like. Like he grabs the end of a rope or something and you, like, tug on it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

No, too much, because it's his back leg. So, like, he needs his back leg to, like, move around. Like, he. He has trouble because he's in a cone. Yeah. And I keep telling him, you can't jump on the couch, but he'll get excited, and then he'll try to jump on the couch. But then it's like, aerodynamically, he doesn't understand that the cone is going to

[Ally]

catch wind, I guess.

[Sasheer Zamata]

But, like, he'll make it halfway, but then the cone will get stuck on the couch, and then he'll be like, stuck. And then I'll be like, no, Clyde. No.

[Ally]

Poor guy.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah, but he's a sweetie.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Okay, Your movie preferences will reveal which extinct creature matches your personality. Oh, okay.

[Ally]

Pick a really good crime movie.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Sound of Freedom.

[Ally]

Just mercy. Ooh. The Godfather. The Godfather, too.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I thought that was Goodfellas. I get them confused even though I'm reading and see them.

[Ally]

Well, that's when you were like, I thought Hamnet was Wuthering Heights. And I was like, no, Wuthering Heights is Wuthering Heights.

[Sasheer Zamata]

That rocked me in a way that was so confusing. I was like, where's Jacob Ollori? I was like, oh, this isn't. This doesn't feel horny.

[Ally]

It's just a different movie.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, boy. Okay.

[Ally]

I don't know any of them. Yeah, I don't know any of them. I guess I'll say Godfather, too, because that's. I heard good things about it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I'm. I'm gonna say Sound of Freedom because I love freedom. Nice.

[Ally]

I like the sound of that.

[Sasheer Zamata]

We gotta pick a new date to get hot dogs and soft serve.

[Ally]

We do.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Okay. I don't know why I said it like you were gonna argue with me.

[Ally]

Yeah, no arguments here. We just had to pick a date.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Pick a really good sports movie.

[Ally]

The Blind side.

[Sasheer Zamata]

The Karate Kid. Happy Gilmore, Ford versus Ferrari.

[Ally]

I'm gonna pick the Karate Kid because I like when kids accomplish things.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I do, too. But for the sake of being different, I'm Gonna pick Ford vs Ferrari, even though I haven't seen it, but I

[Ally]

know it's about cars and you love cars.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I do.

[Ally]

There you go.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Maybe I'll watch it. I think what's his name's in it. Batman.

[Nicole Byer]

I think so, too.

[Ally]

Which Batman? There's so many Batman. Ben Affleck, Michael Keaton, Robert Pattinson.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Wow. You skipped. You skipped Christian Bale. I guess he's not your Batman.

[Ally]

Not my Batman.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Have you seen Daredevil?

[Ally]

The show?

[Sasheer Zamata]

No. The movie?

[Ally]

No.

[Sasheer Zamata]

You gotta.

[Ally]

Oh, okay.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I watched it the other night.

[Ally]

You are watching things.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I am watching things because that nice man likes movies.

[Ally]

Okay.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And it's wild that as an actor, I've seen nothing. Yeah, I've never seen a movie because I watch the same things over and over again. Okay. Daredevil was ahead of Its time.

[Ally]

When did it come out?

[Sasheer Zamata]

People did not like it. 2003, I think.

[Ally]

Okay.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It is so fun. At one point, Ben Affleck eats Percocets, not takes it with water. He puts a Percocet in his mouth and goes. I don't know. There's a close up on it.

[Ally]

Oh, my God.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Because he's fighting crime and he's blind.

[Ally]

Oh, he's Daredevil.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yes. Oh, and Jennifer Gardner. I think they met on this. Plays Elektra.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

A Greek woman. I'll let that sit with you. I don't think Jennifer Gardner's Greek at all.

[Ally]

Yeah, probably not.

[Sasheer Zamata]

They also put these weird teal contact lenses on that I was a fan of. Colin Farrell plays a man called Bullseye. And he's got a Bullseye imprinted on his head. And he's crazy. He kills a woman on a plane.

[Ally]

Oh, no.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Just an old lady that was bothering him. No. And there's not one, but two scenes where Evanescence is featured.

[Ally]

The band or the songs?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Not the band. Okay. And it's really. I really liked it. I think it's so fun.

[Ally]

I'll give it a watch.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And Joey Pants is in it.

[Ally]

Nice.

[Sasheer Zamata]

The man from the Matrix who says ignorance is bliss. And from Baby's Day Out, a movie I thought was fake but apparently is not. And part of my stable

[Ally]

waiting in the stable.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Most notably part of the stable stable. I had such a blast watching this movie.

[Ally]

Okay.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And then I was like, I want to see more superhero movies because I like Spider Man's.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

But apparently I watched the trailer for Green Lantern. That does not look like fun.

[Ally]

The Ryan Reynolds one or. Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, boy.

[Ally]

Yeah, I think that was. That's, like, famously bad.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Everyone has big heads.

[Ally]

The actors.

[Sasheer Zamata]

No, they literally put their heads in the trailer, like, getting bigger. Ellie, I'm so sorry. Would you mind playing the trailer? I can't explain it. Peter Sarsgaard's in it, and he looks like Peter Sarsgaard by the end of the trailer. His head is so big.

[Ally]

Like, it is like, part of the storyline, but their heads get big.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I didn't realize. But, like, there's aliens and stuff. And it re. Like, it blew me away in a way that I was like, I don't think I. That could be left to history. I don't need to see that. I don't need to be a part of that. It blew me away. And. Okay. Great light has gone out in the universe. And at first I thought that was the Joker, the Riddler. We Face an unprecedented. Oh, yeah. Civilizations.

[Nicole Byer]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Of course.

[Sasheer Zamata]

To fight this enemy, the ring chose a human. Okay, so his head's like kind of big. Kind of big. Your name?

[Ally]

Hal Jordan.

[Sasheer Zamata]

The ring chose you. Take it. Speak the oath. Speak the oath. Okay, the heads are going to start growing any minute. I pledge allegiance to a lantern that I got from a dying purple alien. So this is the chosen human. The ring turns thought into reality. Its limits are only one. What you can imagine. Okay, what is that? Okay, look, his head is like slightly too big. But just wait for Peter Sars Guard. Remember, your enemy is not going to play fair. Okay. Looks normal.

[Ally]

Is it Angela Bassett?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yes. She's in everything. His head's getting bigger. The head's getting bigger. And Tim. Tim Robbins. The head's getting real big.

[Ally]

Okay, I think because he's turning into an alien. There's Blake Lively. I think that's where they.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I think that's where they met. Look how big his head is now. If you die, innocent lives will be lost. Your world will be annihilated. That guy's got a big head.

[Ally]

And that's a really good. Look at that head.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Fight it with me.

[Ally]

Look at that. You're right.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Everyone has huge heads in this movie.

[Ally]

Really big head.

[Sasheer Zamata]

They should have called it the big headed. Everyone has such a big head.

[Ally]

Maybe the lantern. So that they can see how big their heads are.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Maybe. Isn't that wild?

[Ally]

That's wild.

[Sasheer Zamata]

You probably never thought that movie was going to be like that. I wouldn't.

[Ally]

I wouldn't have thought that. Could never have guessed.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Never in my whole life did I think there were so many big heads in that movie.

[Ally]

And you haven't seen it?

[Sasheer Zamata]

No, not. Not in my whole life. Not one time.

[Ally]

I haven't either, but we need to figure out why those heads are so big.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I kind of want to know, but I don't think it's going to be a good movie.

[Ally]

Yeah,

[Sasheer Zamata]

it blew me away. Every shot is just a bigger forehead. Like, just big foreheads.

[Ally]

Really big foreheads.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I finished Wonder Man Fucking finally. Well, we can't talk about it now. We're taking a quiz.

[Ally]

Oh, yes. We took a 15 minute break to watch Green Lantern.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It's not my fault. Yes, it is.

[Ally]

You literally brought it up.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It's not my fault. I don't know.

[Ally]

Pick a really good comedy movie.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Ferris Bueller's Day off.

[Ally]

This is the end.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Back to the Future.

[Ally]

Truman show is German show.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I don't think so.

[Nicole Byer]

I don't think so.

[Ally]

Yeah. Interesting.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I'M gonna say Back to the Future.

[Ally]

Oh, yeah. You love that movie.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I love that movie.

[Ally]

I'm gonna say the Truman show. Even though I don't think it's a comedy, but I do love that movie.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It is a good movie.

[Ally]

Well, back to Wonder Man. You had texted me that I'm Wonder man and you're Trevor.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I'm Sir Ben Kingsley.

[Ally]

You're Sir Ben Kingsley. And I was like, I think I know why. Cause Wonder man in the show is like very anxious and Trevor, the character feels is very like in the moment. Is that why you think that?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yes.

[Ally]

And that's it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Uh huh.

[Ally]

Okay, great. Didn't know there was more to it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

No. And I feel like Trevor kind of like helps. What's Wonder Man's name in it?

[Ally]

Simon.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Simon. I feel like Trevor helped Simon, like, get loose a little bit. And Trevor also, like, helps Simon communicate better with his family.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And. Oh, this might be too personal, but like, I feel like sometimes when it's like you, me and your mom, you guys communicate to someone slightly better until your mom decides to say something fun.

[Ally]

Yeah. Or my mom says something and you're like, you can kind of translate. You're like, oh, she probably means this. And I'm like, oh. But I'm like, you know, because she's my mom. There's like other things. There's like a block.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Because that's your people.

[Ally]

Exactly.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And I don't have a mom.

[Ally]

You're like, no stakes here.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah, I figured out. Sure. Why not? Yeah. Did you love the ending of it?

[Ally]

I did, yes.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Don't you want more?

[Ally]

I really hope there's more. I really hope.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I also really hope there's more.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And I don't know if we're gonna get more.

[Ally]

It's hard to say, but I feel like I've only heard good things about the show.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yes. 90% on Rotten Tomatoes.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Which is. Why did they call that website that instead of like movie rating dot com.

[Ally]

Because no one will remember it. Movirating dot com.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Well, very forgettable. I guess you're right. But like, why Rotten Tomatoes?

[Ally]

Because when people would go to the theater, they'd bring rotten tomatoes or other kinds of fruit that was rotting. If they didn't like what was happening on stage, they would throw it at the actors.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Bring that back.

[Ally]

No, we don't. That's so rude. They're trying their best.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Imagine going to Juilliard and then the opening night of your first play, you get hit in the face with an old plum.

[Ally]

It's so rude. And also, it's like, don't, like, throw it at the writers. You're mad at the actors. They're just executing someone else's visions. That's so rude.

[Sasheer Zamata]

You're right. Because there was a lot of choices made in Ghostwriter that I was like, what the fuck? But then I was like, there was a director. A director told them to do that. That's like Jessie Spano in Showgirls. Like, her performance was critically panned, which, again, ahead of its time, before its time. But she didn't make those choices. A director told her to do that.

[Ally]

It's true.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Okay, Pick a really good coming of age movie.

[Ally]

Boyhood.

[Sasheer Zamata]

The hate you give.

[Ally]

Are you there, God? It's Me, Margaret.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Wander, have you seen Are youe There, God? It's Me, Margaret.

[Ally]

I think I did. Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I didn't see it, but I read the book so many times as a child.

[Ally]

Oh, nice.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I loved Are youe There, God? It's Me, Margaret.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Mm, mm, mm, mm, mm. Judy Blume.

[Ally]

Mm, mm, mm, mm, mm. Judy.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I love Judy Bloom,

[Ally]

I think. I guess I really liked Boyhood. That's the Richard Linklater one. Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Where nothing happens, but it's fun.

[Ally]

But that's how I feel about Are you there, God?

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, nothing happens. Oh, yeah. And it's kind of like a slice of life.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I'll pick that one. Even though I haven't seen it.

[Ally]

Great.

[Sasheer Zamata]

But I have read it.

[Ally]

Pick a really good horror movie.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Get Out. Us, jaws, Halloween.

[Ally]

The 1978 one.

[Sasheer Zamata]

No, other version. I loved Get Out. My favorite part of get out was after the movie, watching interracial couples interact with one another. Because it was a little tense. I think I saw it twice in theaters. I was like,

[Ally]

I'm also gonna say get Out.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I would like to re. Watch us. Yeah, that's the Tethers one, right?

[Ally]

Yes.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Okay.

[Ally]

I mean, I was only talking about it for weeks after, but I still had a lot of questions.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah. And I think so much time has passed that I'd have a different perspective of it because I recently just watched Get Out.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And I was like, dang, hold up.

[Ally]

Of course. Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Finally. Pick a really good Quentin Tarantino movie.

[Ally]

Pulp Fiction, Django, Unchained, Kill Bill.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Inglorious Bastards.

[Ally]

Well, I'm gonna say Kill Bill. That's my favorite movie.

[Sasheer Zamata]

You love Kill Bill?

[Ally]

I love it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Did you see the full length?

[Ally]

I did, yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Was it fun?

[Ally]

It was fun, yeah. And there was, like, new stuff. There was like a new piece of animation in there. And then, like, there were parts of in the original release where like, there was like a fight scene that was black and white because I didn't know this at the time, but I guess, like, there was so much blood in it that they would have gotten an NC17 rating.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, wow. So is that Uma Thurman with the. The Crazy 88? Is that that scene? Yeah, yeah.

[Ally]

So they made it black and white so you couldn't see the red. But in the recent re release where they put all the movies together, they made it in color.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Did you like it better?

[Ally]

I did, but honestly, yeah, I guess I did like it better. I like seeing it in color, but I don't know if I like, remembered it in black and white that much to be like, oh, this is a huge difference. Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Kill Bill is such a fun movie.

[Ally]

It's a really fun movie.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And the only other Quentin Tarantino movie I've seen on that list is Dejango. So I guess I'll say Django. And I know it's Django, but I'm having fun.

[Ally]

There's a D there. I'm having fun. This one's mine.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah, this is yours. To share.

[Ally]

A T. Rex, Tyrannosaurus. What was the question?

[Sasheer Zamata]

I don't know. Pick your favorite movies and we'll tell

[Ally]

you what extinct creature you are. I see. Tyrannosaurus rex is one of the most well known and iconic dinosaurs. It lived during the late Cretaceous. The late Cretaceous period, about 68 to 66 million years ago. Adult T Rex measured. An adult T. Rex measured about 40 to 43ft in length, stood about. There's so much fucking confetti the way it is worse. Why? 13ft tall at the hips and weighed between 14,000 to 18,000 pounds.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Damn, bitch, you fat as hell.

[Ally]

I'm big. It doesn't really give me qualities of a T. Rex.

[Sasheer Zamata]

It sure does. It just gave you some here's facts about a T. Rex.

[Ally]

Here's some dino facts.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I would love, like, just like a quick cheat sheet of when things happened. Like if someone just wrote down, like, here are dinosaurs the dinosaur time, and then here's where the big bang happened. And then this would happen after. I would love that.

[Ally]

I'm sure I exist. Oh, okay.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Probably online on the Internet.

[Ally]

Have you heard there's a phrase going on?

[Sasheer Zamata]

I thought you were gonna say, have you heard of the Internet?

[Ally]

I was gonna be like, no, but there's a phrase going around. What was it called? It's like I want to say finger princess, but I don't know if that's right, but it's like, what did you call me? You finger princess.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Where there's like a.

[Ally]

A person in a friend group who, like, will not look things up. And it's just like, where is this? When is it? What is that? Where'd that come from? As opposed to, like, Googling anything. Have you heard of this, Ally? No. It's like a new term going around. What? I don't remember what it's called, though. Can you look up Finger princess.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Wow. A real finger princess over here. I'm a little bit of a finger princess.

[Ally]

You were not even a little bit. You are a fingerprint.

[Nicole Byer]

Here, here's. This is your result.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I'm an andrewsaurus. Whoa. Androsaurus was an unusual and enormous prehistoric mammal that lived approximately 45 to 36 million years ago. This enamic. Is that the way I say that?

[Nicole Byer]

Enigmatic.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Oh, Enigmatic creature is known mostly from a single skull fossil, but even this limited evidence has made it famous as one of the largest terrestrial mammalian predators of its time.

[Ally]

Whoa. Andrew Sartues.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Andy Circus.

[Ally]

And his hair kind of looks like Andy's hair from Black Panther.

[Sasheer Zamata]

That's really fun.

[Ally]

Like, yes, that's true. Fingerprint says, derived from the Korean slang ping poo, a term for someone in a group chat or friend group who refuses to perform simple, independent actions like using Google or scrolling up and instead expects others to provide information for them.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I'm feeling very attacked.

[Ally]

Yeah, I mean, that's. That's a harsher phrasing that I would have said, but. But, yeah, you know, that doesn't feel good. You know, you're also not the only one in our group chat that does that.

[Sasheer Zamata]

You are. I don't think I'm the worst.

[Ally]

No. I think everyone has their moments. But yeah, there are times where it's just like, wait, what time is this thing? And you could just scroll up. It's two texts above, but no one. But the work is not being done.

[Sasheer Zamata]

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[Sasheer Zamata]

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[Ally]

We're here to tell you a little bit about something special coming or as they say in Italiano, sara speciale.

[Sasheer Zamata]

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[Ally]

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[Sasheer Zamata]

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[Ally]

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[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah. Sometimes it's hard in a big, big group chat when there's like 10 people.

[Ally]

Oh. Then things get lost. Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

There was one group chat that we were a part of that we actively ignored and then it got restarted that had a lot of information. Like there was just. I couldn't decide in my heart whether any of the information was important.

[Ally]

I would hope. I guess not everyone views group chats the same way, which boggles my mind because some people think, yeah, there should be all 15 people on this group chat. And I'm like, why would you want that? Why would you. Who's putting this group chat together, want that? And then they're like. And then people are like, yes. The best way. Like, if a group chat's that big, even if it's not that big, even if it's like six people or something, it's like, okay, well, this is for jokes. This cannot be for.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yes.

[Ally]

Pertinent information because it's gonna get lost. But some people don't think like that.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I think group chats for. Hehe. Haha. Send an email. Yes. If you want to give me actual information, send an email. That's just me.

[Ally]

That's just me.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Especially like 15 people.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

A group chat's crazy.

[Ally]

Yeah. Well, there are questions. Yes, a couple questions.

[Sasheer Zamata]

That's exactly what I was gonna say.

[Nicole Byer]

We got a. Our first text message.

[Ally]

Okay.

[Sasheer Zamata]

So it's working.

[Ally]

Okay.

[Nicole Byer]

Hi, Nicole, Sasheer and bestie friends, fam. Hope you're doing well. I've been slowly moving away from social media and trying to go outside more. A part of that journey has been shutting off my Instagram and Twitter notifications and deleting TikTok. I've informed my friends of this so they aren't confused as to why I'm taking a long time to answer DMs. I actually don't like going into Instagram and seeing a bunch of notifications. It stresses me out. So I often leave messages unread for days before viewing and replying to reels or posts. Is there a polite way to ask my friends to stop sending me reels on social media? Honestly, it's often things I've already seen thanks to Instagram's new repost feature. Or is this an example of everyone wants a village, but no one wants to be a vill? Please help. Thank you.

[Ally]

Hmm.

[Sasheer Zamata]

This one's a little tough for me because I like when friends see something and think of me. Yeah. Even if I've seen it already. Yeah.

[Ally]

I've I've. There's. I feel like I've seen this on Instagram that like, sending memes can be seen as like pebbling or being like,

[Sasheer Zamata]

I don't know what pebbling is.

[Ally]

Your face dropped. Any expression on your face just fell.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Fell loose. You said something I didn't know about. And I, I was like, oh, does everyone know what a pebble is?

[Ally]

Penguins will collect pebbles and give them to each other. And they're like, I saw this thing that looked cool. Do you want that? So it's like that be like, I saw this thing. Do you want this? Like a little offering, like, bid for affection? Like, I saw this thing, it made me think of you. Do you want. And so, and sometimes like, people are just bored and they're like scrolling, scrolling, scrolling. And they're like, haha. But it is, it is something them kind of like, I want to share this with my friend. I want them to also laugh the way I laughed at this thing. So it is kind of like a

[Sasheer Zamata]

little bit of like the Village.

[Ally]

Like they're trying. Even though being on social media can be a very singular experience.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yeah.

[Ally]

They're trying to share it with you. So. But I also understand wanting to not be online so much.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Yes. You know, maybe, maybe. Okay, stay with me. Maybe a happy medium is a reframe instead of saying. Or like having the mindset that like the notifications give you anxiety. Maybe you wait till Fridays to open it and Fridays you go, I know I'm gonna have these notifications on Fridays. That's where I see that my friends thought of me, cared about me and sent me something. Yeah. So I'll take an hour on Friday to look at them and send, you know, hehehas back to my friends. And that's how I connect with them on the social media that they want to connect with me on. But the rest of the week I don't go on it.

[Ally]

Yeah, I think that's good. And I think it's not like they already told their friends I'm not on it as much. And also, like, their friends probably notice they're not being responded to as much, so hopefully just dies down naturally. And they're like, okay, I don't want to send. I want to overload this person. Because you also want to be like, that doesn't feel good also to have

[Sasheer Zamata]

like all of your side, like, wow, so you'll never look at it.

[Ally]

Exactly. So yeah. But you also say that, like, I'll look up this on Friday, but not throughout the week and maybe yeah, It'll just die down. Yeah. Because also, I can. I. I also have folders where I save things to send later because I don't want to overwhelm people so much. I have a Nicole folder.

[Sasheer Zamata]

What's in it?

[Ally]

Lots of stuff.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Send it.

[Ally]

I do, but I'll, like. Like, I'll, like, piece it out and then save the rest.

[Sasheer Zamata]

This is a level of organization that simply does not exist to me. That's. That's wild. I love it.

[Ally]

Yeah. Because I'm like, well, she might be busy or you're traveling or whatever. And I'm like, oh, you may not be, like, be able to look at all of these. And so I save it, but then sometimes I forget to save it or to send it, and then I see other things in the world and I send that, and then I just have a backpile of hundreds of memes.

[Sasheer Zamata]

That's very funny. I sometimes will send you 20 at a time and I'll go, not for me to ever look at again.

[Ally]

I also saw an Instagram video where people were, like, showing that, like, casting their phone to the screen and showing memes in real time to their friends, like, on the couch. And I was like, I would love to do that, actually. Get together with your friends. Be like, I thought I saw this. Now you watch it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I think that is fun.

[Ally]

Yeah.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Tested that the other day. She was showing us. She likes these. They're. Oh, God. What is. It's Irish. Irish step dancing.

[Ally]

River dance. Oh, no, it's Irish.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Kind of. Yeah, kind of like Riverdance. But it was. It sounds bad when I say it's like, young girls in their new flashy outfits, and they do, like, a reveal of their outfit. So they're wearing a cape, and they're like, hello, I'm Sashie. I'm from Ireland, and this is my new outfit. And then the cape goes away. Then it's just asleep. Sparkly, sparkly outfit. And we couldn't stop laughing. It was really funny. And then their hair is, like, very, very big.

[Ally]

That's fun.

[Sasheer Zamata]

So I'm. I'm. That's all that to say. That's all that to say. I'm having trouble talking.

[Ally]

Sorry.

[Sasheer Zamata]

That's all that to say. Good. Good idea.

[Ally]

Yeah. Let's get together and watch our memes together. Yes.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Solved.

[Ally]

Well, if you have any questions or queries, you can call us or text

[Nicole Byer]

us a Libra voice message at 323-238-6554.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And that's it. We did it.

[Ally]

Or we also have an email I'm like, what's happening?

[Sasheer Zamata]

I don't know. Nicoleances [e-mail] now.

[Ally]

That's it.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I told you I was having trouble this morning.

[Ally]

I see.

[Sasheer Zamata]

I see that now. Goodbye. Best Friends is a production of Headgum Studios.

[Ally]

Our producer is Ali Khan.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Our executive producer is Anya Konovskaya.

[Ally]

The show is edited, mixed and engineered by Richelle Chen.

[Sasheer Zamata]

Hi.

[Nicole Byer]

I am Mandy Moore.

[Ally]

Sterling K. Brown.

[Sasheer Zamata]

And I'm Chris Sullivan. And we host the podcast that was Us now on Headgum. Each episode, we're gonna go into a deep dive from our show. This is us.

[Ally]

That's right.

[Sasheer Zamata]

We're gonna go episode by episode. We're also gonna pepper in episodes with different guest stars and writers and casting directors. Are we gonna cry? Yes, a little bit. Are we gonna laugh a lot? A whole lot.

[Ally]

That's what I'm hoping, man. Listen to that was Us on your favorite podcast app. Or watch full video episodes on YouTube or Spotify. New episodes every Tuesday.