Podcast Summary: "Sasheer Jumps at Things That Are Normal"

Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata
Headgum | Released: November 12, 2025
Guests: Betsy Sodaro & Gilli Nissim

EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode is a warm, hilarious deep dive into best-friendship, featuring comedian roommates Betsy Sodaro and Gilli Nissim. Nicole and Sasheer invite their pals to talk about everything from weird roommate snacks to the art of growing old together with your chosen family. The conversation dances between film/TV nerd-outs, memorable roommate quirks, bodily functions, and heartfelt dreams for the future—all told with signature wit, tangents, and riffing.

KEY DISCUSSION POINTS AND INSIGHTS

Introductions & Film/TV Banter

(00:58–05:18)

Nicole and Sasheer introduce Betsy and Gilli, riffing on the correct pronunciation of Gilli's last name ("Nissim") in a classic loose, conversational style.
The group marvels at Betsy's animated film work (notably as a "serpent sister" on Puss in Boots: The Last Wish), sharing a hilarious anecdote about Betsy thinking her character was a snake:

“I was improvising like snake specifics... And then I saw the movie. I was like, they're human.” — Betsy Sodaro (03:35)
Spirited debate about Shrek sequels and loving “weird” third installments, including Austin Powers 3 (with Gilli staunchly defending Beyoncé’s performance).

Roommate Rituals & TV Obsessions

(06:06–10:56)

Gilli and Betsy explain their living situation—longtime roommates via UCB comedy circles. They talk through movie and TV-watching categories: “prestige rewatches,” “90s classics,” and staple Drag Race marathons.
Betsy’s favorite Drag Race season is 4 (“Latrice Royale, Sharon Needles, Fifi O’Hair—when queens were ‘mean and talented’ before social media changed the game”).

“The show was really getting in the groove of what it's become, but still sloppy in the sense of like, social media wasn't as huge... The queens didn't give a shit.” — Betsy (08:10)
Nicole admits loving Season 7 (“everyone thinks it’s the worst, but every challenge is an acting challenge, and nobody’s an actor”).

Best-Friend Origins

(13:19–16:56)

Nicole poses the pivotal question: “When did you decide to be best friends?”

“It feels like when we all started doing comedy, we met a hundred people… and after a while starting to think maybe it’s you, so the group, like Squid Game style, does kind of whittle down. And we still have this big, lovely friend group… It was a slow thing.” — Gilli (13:51)
The roommates recall falling into closer friendship via comedy troupes, parties, then evolving into a “choice you get to continue to make.”

Roommate Habits & Fun Food Tangents

(18:47–26:28)

Betsy praises Gilli's habit of bringing home “fun, weird snacks,” like “masala peas” and “cucamelons”—tiny watermelon-looking cucumbers.
They recount inviting Nicole over for a two-hour “friendship salad” hang.
Vegetable/fruit fascination erupts: talk of Buddha’s hand citrus, cherimoya (“nature’s ice cream”), and botany mishaps.
Both commend each other’s openness to new experiences: Gilli hosting impromptu hangs, Betsy offering “weird beers” (Donna’s pickle beer! Pumpkin spice beer!), and Gilli converting Betsy to martinis.

Shared Comfort and Pure Honesty

(26:55–33:30)

Open discussion about public pooping anxieties and accidental accidents:

“I have no qualms about it. People are like, I can’t shit in public. Get real.” — Nicole (26:58)
“I pooped my pants in our alley... It was my favorite pair of pants, and I just threw away.” — Betsy (28:25)
Gilli and Betsy swap “I almost didn’t make it” bathroom stories, highlighting the freedom and lack of embarrassment in close friendship.

Food Adventures and Gilly’s Persistence

(33:37–37:56)

Gilli’s “generous but persistent” nature emerges—intense about sharing bites, sometimes to the point of compulsion:

“If I have said, ‘Will you have a bite?’ and someone says no, thanks, I act like it’s fine, but I’m so upset for a long time.” — Gilli (36:21)
Betsy credits Gilli with expanding her palate for food (and experiences), notably on a “seafood journey” and sushi adventures (“popums”—salmon roe that “pop in your mouth and make me laugh”).

Plate Licking & Family Traits

(40:21–41:13)

Gilli out herself as a “plate licker,” a family trait her mom proudly shares:

“My mom’s a plate licker too. We’re plate lickers.” — Gilli (40:42)
Betsy jokes she can tell from the pause in conversation when Gilli’s mid-lick.

Roommate Pets & Pandemic Puppy Days

(43:21–51:23)

They tell the story of getting Wilma, the golden retriever (“the size of a shoe”) right after moving back together post-breakup:

“Bringing a puppy into it was… rocky. But then she got to be, like, five, six months. And we became completely obsessed with this dog. But not before then.” — Gilli (49:14)
Puppy training woes (every half hour outside!) and how Wilma re-shaped the household (“Betsy is her best friend, but I’m the alpha”).

Horror Movie Fandom & Difference

(54:00–58:21)

Betsy is an avowed horror fan, eager to decorate for Halloween (“If I could, I would start after my birthday in June.”).
Gilli and Sasheer are more easily startled:

“I jump at things that are just, like, normal.” — Sasheer (57:00)
Favorite horror: The Changeling (1980, “so scary, so good!”—Betsy), and horror-watching as a family/friend ritual.

Travel & Core Memories

(60:11–67:21)

Core memory highlights:
- “Lockdown Christmas,” ordering Fogo de Chao catering for two and feasting (“like catering for a party… for 12 people,” Betsy (60:42))
- Betsy’s seafood baked potato in San Diego—a milestone in her food journey!
- Ojai trip: “parked the car, never got in again for three days—just ate, drank, wandered.”
- Bulgaria adventure for a commercial shoot (Betsy as an “eye mite” in an eyelid party!) and food discoveries: “Jasper barbecue” and mountain sightseeing.

Aging, Friendship, and Dreams

(67:27–71:47)

Nicole and Sasheer prompt the future: “Where do you see yourselves in 20 years?”
- Gilli: “Midway through building the early retirement community… a bunch of our friends… made a bunch of shows… have a community with a stage—improv till we die!” (67:58–69:36)
- Nicole: “I would like to live in a retirement community… because a lot of old people are just dying alone. I wanna be with friends.” (69:51)
Grand finale: the gang does a rapid-fire “pattern game” improv round on the word “beef” (71:27–71:41), cracking themselves up (“This is what you can expect at the retirement community!”—Gilli).

Notable Quotes & Moments

“You know, we get to do a lot of fun stuff. We get to go places, post up, get drunk, wander around, and then eat really big meals. It’s so nice.” – Betsy (67:11)
“We have to. We gotta stick together.” – Nicole (71:54)
“Let’s do improv till we die.” — Gilli (69:44)

TIMESTAMPS FOR IMPORTANT SEGMENTS

(03:01) — Betsy's “serpent sister” Puss in Boots misunderstanding
(08:01) — Favorite Drag Race seasons and the joy of reality TV nostalgia
(13:19) — The slow evolution from comedy acquaintances to “best friend” roommates
(18:47) — Roommate snacks, fun produce, and sharing weird grocery finds
(26:55–33:30) — All about bathroom emergencies and shattering taboos with best friends
(36:21) — Gilli’s compulsion to share bites and try new things
(43:21–51:23) — Wilma the puppy: quarantine dog stories and the stress/joy of raising a pet
(54:00–58:21) — Horror movies, Halloween obsession, and being easily spooked
(60:11–67:21) — Core memories: lockdown Christmas, travel, and new experiences together
(67:27–69:44) — Vision for aging together: communal living, more shows, and “improv till we die”

TONE & STYLE

The episode brims with warmth, irreverence, and playful vulnerability. The conversation is irrepressibly tangential, stuffed with in-jokes, food experiments, and gross-out confessions, but grounded by a shared sense of gratitude for chosen-family friendship.

NOTABLE QUOTES (with Timestamps)

“It was immediately like, this is really fun and chill. Hell yeah.” — Betsy (15:55)
“Have you pooped in the ocean?” — Nicole (27:22)
“I pooped my pants in our alley.” — Betsy (28:25)
“I would like to live in a retirement community with people I know… Why die by yourself when you could get a word and do the pattern game?” — Nicole (69:51, 70:14)
“Let’s do improv till we die!” — Gilli (69:44)

FINAL THOUGHTS

This episode is a love letter to friendship as daily practice, from late-night movies and experimental snacks to shared hardships, strange travel, and dreams of joyful aging together. What emerges is a portrait of best-friendship as both enduring and ever-evolving, blessed by humor, honesty, and the power of just showing up for each other.

PROMOTIONS & SIGN-OFF

Betsy plugs her podcasts “A Funny Feeling” and “We Love Trash.”
Nicole and Sasheer wrap with gratitude for their guests and a promise of more laughter (72:30).

For fans of candid, chaotic best-friend energy, oddball anecdotes, and comedy that finds the meaningful in the mundane, this episode is a can’t-miss.

Podcast Summary: "Sasheer Jumps at Things That Are Normal"

Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata
Headgum | Released: November 12, 2025
Guests: Betsy Sodaro & Gilli Nissim

EPISODE OVERVIEW

KEY DISCUSSION POINTS AND INSIGHTS

Introductions & Film/TV Banter

(00:58–05:18)

Nicole and Sasheer introduce Betsy and Gilli, riffing on the correct pronunciation of Gilli's last name ("Nissim") in a classic loose, conversational style.
The group marvels at Betsy's animated film work (notably as a "serpent sister" on Puss in Boots: The Last Wish), sharing a hilarious anecdote about Betsy thinking her character was a snake:

“I was improvising like snake specifics... And then I saw the movie. I was like, they're human.” — Betsy Sodaro (03:35)
Spirited debate about Shrek sequels and loving “weird” third installments, including Austin Powers 3 (with Gilli staunchly defending Beyoncé’s performance).

Roommate Rituals & TV Obsessions

(06:06–10:56)

Gilli and Betsy explain their living situation—longtime roommates via UCB comedy circles. They talk through movie and TV-watching categories: “prestige rewatches,” “90s classics,” and staple Drag Race marathons.
Betsy’s favorite Drag Race season is 4 (“Latrice Royale, Sharon Needles, Fifi O’Hair—when queens were ‘mean and talented’ before social media changed the game”).

“The show was really getting in the groove of what it's become, but still sloppy in the sense of like, social media wasn't as huge... The queens didn't give a shit.” — Betsy (08:10)
Nicole admits loving Season 7 (“everyone thinks it’s the worst, but every challenge is an acting challenge, and nobody’s an actor”).

Best-Friend Origins

(13:19–16:56)

Nicole poses the pivotal question: “When did you decide to be best friends?”

“It feels like when we all started doing comedy, we met a hundred people… and after a while starting to think maybe it’s you, so the group, like Squid Game style, does kind of whittle down. And we still have this big, lovely friend group… It was a slow thing.” — Gilli (13:51)
The roommates recall falling into closer friendship via comedy troupes, parties, then evolving into a “choice you get to continue to make.”

Roommate Habits & Fun Food Tangents

(18:47–26:28)

Betsy praises Gilli's habit of bringing home “fun, weird snacks,” like “masala peas” and “cucamelons”—tiny watermelon-looking cucumbers.
They recount inviting Nicole over for a two-hour “friendship salad” hang.
Vegetable/fruit fascination erupts: talk of Buddha’s hand citrus, cherimoya (“nature’s ice cream”), and botany mishaps.
Both commend each other’s openness to new experiences: Gilli hosting impromptu hangs, Betsy offering “weird beers” (Donna’s pickle beer! Pumpkin spice beer!), and Gilli converting Betsy to martinis.

Shared Comfort and Pure Honesty

(26:55–33:30)

Open discussion about public pooping anxieties and accidental accidents:

“I have no qualms about it. People are like, I can’t shit in public. Get real.” — Nicole (26:58)
“I pooped my pants in our alley... It was my favorite pair of pants, and I just threw away.” — Betsy (28:25)
Gilli and Betsy swap “I almost didn’t make it” bathroom stories, highlighting the freedom and lack of embarrassment in close friendship.

Food Adventures and Gilly’s Persistence

(33:37–37:56)

Gilli’s “generous but persistent” nature emerges—intense about sharing bites, sometimes to the point of compulsion:

“If I have said, ‘Will you have a bite?’ and someone says no, thanks, I act like it’s fine, but I’m so upset for a long time.” — Gilli (36:21)
Betsy credits Gilli with expanding her palate for food (and experiences), notably on a “seafood journey” and sushi adventures (“popums”—salmon roe that “pop in your mouth and make me laugh”).

Plate Licking & Family Traits

(40:21–41:13)

Gilli out herself as a “plate licker,” a family trait her mom proudly shares:

“My mom’s a plate licker too. We’re plate lickers.” — Gilli (40:42)
Betsy jokes she can tell from the pause in conversation when Gilli’s mid-lick.

Roommate Pets & Pandemic Puppy Days

(43:21–51:23)

They tell the story of getting Wilma, the golden retriever (“the size of a shoe”) right after moving back together post-breakup:

“Bringing a puppy into it was… rocky. But then she got to be, like, five, six months. And we became completely obsessed with this dog. But not before then.” — Gilli (49:14)
Puppy training woes (every half hour outside!) and how Wilma re-shaped the household (“Betsy is her best friend, but I’m the alpha”).

Horror Movie Fandom & Difference

(54:00–58:21)

Betsy is an avowed horror fan, eager to decorate for Halloween (“If I could, I would start after my birthday in June.”).
Gilli and Sasheer are more easily startled:

“I jump at things that are just, like, normal.” — Sasheer (57:00)
Favorite horror: The Changeling (1980, “so scary, so good!”—Betsy), and horror-watching as a family/friend ritual.

Travel & Core Memories

(60:11–67:21)

Core memory highlights:
- “Lockdown Christmas,” ordering Fogo de Chao catering for two and feasting (“like catering for a party… for 12 people,” Betsy (60:42))
- Betsy’s seafood baked potato in San Diego—a milestone in her food journey!
- Ojai trip: “parked the car, never got in again for three days—just ate, drank, wandered.”
- Bulgaria adventure for a commercial shoot (Betsy as an “eye mite” in an eyelid party!) and food discoveries: “Jasper barbecue” and mountain sightseeing.

Aging, Friendship, and Dreams

(67:27–71:47)

Nicole and Sasheer prompt the future: “Where do you see yourselves in 20 years?”
- Gilli: “Midway through building the early retirement community… a bunch of our friends… made a bunch of shows… have a community with a stage—improv till we die!” (67:58–69:36)
- Nicole: “I would like to live in a retirement community… because a lot of old people are just dying alone. I wanna be with friends.” (69:51)
Grand finale: the gang does a rapid-fire “pattern game” improv round on the word “beef” (71:27–71:41), cracking themselves up (“This is what you can expect at the retirement community!”—Gilli).

Notable Quotes & Moments

“You know, we get to do a lot of fun stuff. We get to go places, post up, get drunk, wander around, and then eat really big meals. It’s so nice.” – Betsy (67:11)
“We have to. We gotta stick together.” – Nicole (71:54)
“Let’s do improv till we die.” — Gilli (69:44)

TIMESTAMPS FOR IMPORTANT SEGMENTS

(03:01) — Betsy's “serpent sister” Puss in Boots misunderstanding
(08:01) — Favorite Drag Race seasons and the joy of reality TV nostalgia
(13:19) — The slow evolution from comedy acquaintances to “best friend” roommates
(18:47) — Roommate snacks, fun produce, and sharing weird grocery finds
(26:55–33:30) — All about bathroom emergencies and shattering taboos with best friends
(36:21) — Gilli’s compulsion to share bites and try new things
(43:21–51:23) — Wilma the puppy: quarantine dog stories and the stress/joy of raising a pet
(54:00–58:21) — Horror movies, Halloween obsession, and being easily spooked
(60:11–67:21) — Core memories: lockdown Christmas, travel, and new experiences together
(67:27–69:44) — Vision for aging together: communal living, more shows, and “improv till we die”

TONE & STYLE

NOTABLE QUOTES (with Timestamps)

“It was immediately like, this is really fun and chill. Hell yeah.” — Betsy (15:55)
“Have you pooped in the ocean?” — Nicole (27:22)
“I pooped my pants in our alley.” — Betsy (28:25)
“I would like to live in a retirement community with people I know… Why die by yourself when you could get a word and do the pattern game?” — Nicole (69:51, 70:14)
“Let’s do improv till we die!” — Gilli (69:44)

FINAL THOUGHTS

PROMOTIONS & SIGN-OFF

Betsy plugs her podcasts “A Funny Feeling” and “We Love Trash.”
Nicole and Sasheer wrap with gratitude for their guests and a promise of more laughter (72:30).

For fans of candid, chaotic best-friend energy, oddball anecdotes, and comedy that finds the meaningful in the mundane, this episode is a can’t-miss.

Sasheer Jumps at Things That Are Normal (w/ Betsy Sodaro & Gilli Nissim)

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Podcast Summary: "Sasheer Jumps at Things That Are Normal"

EPISODE OVERVIEW

KEY DISCUSSION POINTS AND INSIGHTS

Introductions & Film/TV Banter

Roommate Rituals & TV Obsessions

Best-Friend Origins

Roommate Habits & Fun Food Tangents

Shared Comfort and Pure Honesty

Food Adventures and Gilly’s Persistence

Plate Licking & Family Traits

Roommate Pets & Pandemic Puppy Days

Horror Movie Fandom & Difference

Travel & Core Memories

Aging, Friendship, and Dreams

Notable Quotes & Moments

TIMESTAMPS FOR IMPORTANT SEGMENTS

TONE & STYLE

NOTABLE QUOTES (with Timestamps)

FINAL THOUGHTS

PROMOTIONS & SIGN-OFF

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Sasheer Jumps at Things That Are Normal"

EPISODE OVERVIEW

KEY DISCUSSION POINTS AND INSIGHTS

Introductions & Film/TV Banter

Roommate Rituals & TV Obsessions

Best-Friend Origins

Roommate Habits & Fun Food Tangents

Shared Comfort and Pure Honesty

Food Adventures and Gilly’s Persistence

Plate Licking & Family Traits

Roommate Pets & Pandemic Puppy Days

Horror Movie Fandom & Difference

Travel & Core Memories

Aging, Friendship, and Dreams

Notable Quotes & Moments

TIMESTAMPS FOR IMPORTANT SEGMENTS

TONE & STYLE

NOTABLE QUOTES (with Timestamps)

FINAL THOUGHTS

PROMOTIONS & SIGN-OFF